Idk if anyone has said this in the comments already but gamescope is not gamemode, its not a fps overlay, gamescope is a micro wayland compositor used and developed by valve, a wayland compositor is what drives your displays and interacts with your monitors/screen so things like a gui, cursor, hdr, vrr etc show up properly and interact with your other hardware like the gpu. so when your in desktop mode which is kde plasma by default on bazzite the compositor used on their is kwin, developed and maintained by KDE, so what you can do now is you can either use gamescope as a standalone compositor in the steam os mode or if your in desktop mode you can use it manually with launch commands on steam and it will be used as a micro compositor running ontop of the desktop compositor your running which is kwin idk why gamescope shows itself as the graphics api in mangohud but it does for some reason if you had gnome desktop installed on bazzite you would be using the mutter wayland compositor each wayland compositor needs to implement necessary protocols for different features to work in their compositor so kwin and mutter are both wayland compositors but one might not have the same protocols supported as the other its why valve created their own compositor so they can bring in the latest protocols into it so the steamdeck can get some of the new experimental protocols like hdr, screen tearing under wayland its why bazzite uses kwin/kde plasma in desktop mode because the kde devs are implementing more protocols then gnome in their wayland compositor github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope great video tho :) also the fps problem could be a pretty long standing issue that the amd devs are only tackling just now and that is your power profile was not set correctly automatically when you launched bioshock you can try LACT to switch the power profile to the highest clock speeds and it will stay at that, LACT is included in the bazzite welcome application to install and this problem will be fixed in kernel 6.13(we are on 6.11 right now) www.phoronix.com/news/AMDGPU-More-Aggressive-Power you also do not need shader cache enabled in steam, downloads amd, nvidia, intel all use a feature called GPL in their drivers that allows the gpu to load shader cache at the start when you launch the game, shader cache or vulkan shader cache is the old way of doing it before GPL came around as with it turned off before gpl the game would stutter until every shader was cached or you could use dxvk async which was a hack for loading it in one go but we dont use that anymore either
Thank you for all of the info! As someone that's casually used Linux here and there since college (a little over 10 years ago) I'm still learning and sometimes I need a little extra help understanding some things. I'll always appreciate friendly advice and guidance! The Bioshock issue was brought up in the comments, and it may have had to do with Steam launching the Linux version (which is known to have issues) instead of the Windows version.
@@FunkyHQYT yeah could be, native versions of games can sometimes not be the greatest, one example I can think of is valheim native as that has some unity bugs on Linux so I just use the proton version and there is zero issues :) Awesome more people are trying Linux out so enjoy!
I just put together a R5 5000 and RX 6650 XT build use an old case, Probably 450$ total and play most of my games 1440p (steam deck owner) i have a log usb c higher quality cable from 8bitdo and i am so happy, with all i can do with it. I dont miss windows at all.
These days when I feel like couch gaming I use my ally. Most of the time I use it as the handheld it was intended to be, but I bought 3 cheap docks for it recently. One connected to my living room tv, one to my bedroom tv, and one connected to my home theater AVR. I stream everything from my gaming computer using sunshine and moonlight. It works very well.
That sounds like a great setup! Lately when I've had time to game and it's not at my desk, I'll be playing on my Miyoo Mini Plus getting retro achievements, and that's been a lot of fun!
Great video, love more attention is coming to this project Slighy corrections 4:54: `gamescope` also know as Game Mode is what the steamdeck uses when booting up, the stats are monitor by mangohud, and can be changed with GOverlay on the desktop 5:10, set up is the same for Nvidia, you just dont have Game mode, you can mimic Game mode with Steam's BPM, and auto login Anyway keep up the good work my man
GameScope isn't what shows you stats, that's MangoHUD. GameScope is microcompositor (a shell replacement) that runs applications without a desktop environment (i.e. there's no where to alt-tab to). SteamOS uses GameScope for their GameMode on the Steam Deck, which is what replaces the desktop environment with their modified Steam Big Picture (Which is why you have to "Switch to Desktop" manually to restart the user session and load the DE). Also, Bazzite's Mesa drivers are outdated, which is why Bioshock was running poorly for you (you also might want to try a different Proton version, as the default Bioshock will use, is also older). Lastly, enable "Allow Tearing" alongside disabling the frame limit.
I appreciate the explanation! Part of why I make videos is to learn! I could never get stats to show up when running games from desktop mode, so I assumed that was the relation. Good to know!
I saw your video! its amazing that it is from 1 year ago! I'm glad you could found a solution for your controller problem. I hope more people start to switch to Linux because of you. The main problem in Linux today is anticheats and a clear guide to how to buy pc components with 100% support. I think you should do a video about the command line called hw-probe. with hw-probe you can check your devices and know which of them are not properly supported.
This video came out a while ago, and I don't really know if anyone else commented on this, but once human issue is pretty common on recent versions of proton. I used to run into the same issue on my PC even tho I should've been able to handle it fine, also had a lot of issues with textures just being low res forever and a lot of pop in of objects that took a long time to load along with massive stutters when moving my camera. I don't know if you tried this already but what fixed it was actually something I kinda didn't think would work, and a lot of people seemed to comment about it on protondb yet I still ignored it for a few days, but it was changing proton version to the very very old GE-Proton7-55. The game runs absolutely fine after just doing that, no longer a stutter fest and my graphics look as they should, but just for good measure I added DXVK_ASYNC=1 %command% in the launch options.
The Radeon VII was my first GPU, rocking a 7900 XTX. The Radeon VII was a pretty cool niche card for the time, also made for a killer hackintosh build back in the day too
I dumped Bazzite onto my spare desktop and linked it to my TV recently for those times I want to game in bed on a bigger screen than my Steam Deck. Ryzen 5 3600 XT and RTX 3070, 4K60 is doable with tempered settings.
Still rocking my original Dan A4 in an extra system, went over to a Ridge on the main, takes up less deskspace on my pretty tight desk (ikea lillåsen, a doorframe limits me).
I have been thinking about building a new PC and whenever I have to think about buying Windows I have stopped thinking about it. Might give Bazzite a shot if Steam doesn't announce anything about bringing SteamOS to PC soon.
@@FunkyHQYT I will definitely check the sound tests out! My current keyboard is a white Akko ACR Alice, changed the switches and the keycaps and it looks and feels great! My only gripe with it is that it's not wireless.. haha
@@themynx1 The ACR Alice is a great board! I put long pole switches on mine to help with GMK clearance. Gasket performance is nice! It might be the most flexible typing experience board that I own, and it's great for the price!
@@FunkyHQYT Listened to your sound test just now, it sounds great :) I added the foam that was included with the keyboard in the case, and I swapped out the Akko CS Silvers that were included with it to Everglide Aqua Kings, L+F. I also swapped the keycaps to MDA Black on White, it sounds really good! Most importantly for me though it is way more comfortable than a regular keyboard layout, I don't have to strain my wrists as much when writing. As a bonus, it's also similar to a Hitbox controller for fighting games, and much cheaper too :) Certainly got a lot of use out of mine, if Akko ever release a wireless Alice, I'm jumping on the occasion!
I'm building my own steam machine next week when all the parts arrive, do you think bazzite is better than chimeraos? Is there any feature that one has and the other doenst?
Honestly, I think Bazzite does a good job of offering a more complete package -making it easy to install stuff like EmuDeck right from the first time you boot into desktop mode. Let me know how it goes!
bioshock can be is the linux port of the game was good when it cames out after dxvk should now better just need force proton on it as won't default to opengl, I think whats happening
@@FunkyHQYT Yeah, this is most likely what is happening. It has a Linux native build that isn't as good as just running the Windows build with Proton force enabled.
i upgraded from my Dan A4 to a bigger Jonsbo D30 becaus i got tired of the limited cpu cooling and lack of space for additional ram and m2 on my itx board (and no undervolt option in the bios) but i loved its comically smol form factor and often took it into the living room just because i could carry it with one hand lol
Hey this was just the video I was looking for. I have the same exact use case. Thanks mang! Maybe a stupid question - can you run applications like fire fox or Spotify?
I think the HDR problem like yours, is kind similar like my own, with my ViewSonic VX2416 monitor. Whenever I tried to switch the colour profile into sRGB it turn's green like your HDR TV. But if I switch it back to Auto or YuV everything was fine in Linux.
I think updating the GPU may solve your HDR problem along with the more GPU horsepower for pretty looking games. I have a steam machine with a 5950X and 7900 XT, running Bazzite. HDR works great out of the box.
To be honest, if you're in game mode 100% of the time like I've been, you won't notice a difference. People that know more than me about Linux can tell you the differences, but for me the only difference was the desktop environment. On a fresh install, I like how Bazzite gives you the option up front to download things that you might want. Without really knowing, I'm assuming you can do a lot of the same stuff with ChimeraOS. Overall, if your happy with ChimeraOS and it does what you need it to do, stick with that!
So probably a dumb question but on Bazzite machines, steam cloud saving works like normal right? Like I could back and forth between my steamdeck and a Bazzite machine seamlessly? Assuming the game supports cloud saving of course
Dope. That would be perfect for me but I'm too dumb to build a mini pc for myself and then install Bazzite. I just heard about the EmuDeck guy selling his own Bazzite machine with emudeck. It looks like it's marked-up a bit but that may have to do for someone like me lol
I had the DAN A4 since 2017 and I got a Terra back in May. It's beautiful, love the jade green, but it has really awful turbulence if any of your fans are up against the irregular grating on the side panels. Like it's painfully loud and it forces you to do much less than what the machine can actually handle in terms of GPU/CPU fan clearance. I have a 12700kt and an RTX 4070 Ti Super in there and anything that makes the machine "work" makes my room sound like an extra AC kicked on. Very annoying resonant hum. It's a documented issue that I even opened a ticket with Fractal about and they ghosted it after videos and links to others' videos showing the turbulence noise. Bad design. Best choice is to continue optimizing your DAN and check out the new 2-2.5 slot 4000 series cards by brands like Inno3D and MSI. I wish I went that route instead of a beautiful-yet-loud Terra.
I've heard things about the turbulence noise being an issue! Such a bummer considering I like the overall design and aesthetic of the case. I appreciate the info! I still think the DAN A4 is a great looking case, and I wish I didn't have to be so choosy with GPU clearances - but as long as they still make 2-slot cards I'll be good!
Once Human for some reason has this horrible stuttering issue with proton 8 and 9, but it works pretty smooth with proton 7. At least on nvidia GPU. Very rare stutters when loading into new areas with proton 7. While with newer protons its horribly unplayable. Nice video!
@FunkyHQYT After a lot of errors with the partitioning, I ended up deleting all my old partitions from the SSD, and that was the only way that bazzite installed. But no BT controllers are able to pair, the virtual keyboard only shows up sometimes, and only in desktop mode. And when it appears, it doesn't register any key pressed. Bazzite is a completely useless, buggy experimental mess, just like Holo and Chimera. I'll wait for Valve.
Never mind ((-: After a restart, the BT controllers suddenly appear as paired and work fine in desktop and game mode. Previously, they didn't even appear in game mode when trying to pair, and in KDE they showed up in the pairing list but had a pairing error afterwards. What the hell... I'l give bazzite one more chance.
Having into account modern platforms have done away with the Vega architecture, the Radeon VII of this project seems a tad... limited, especially for some of the games you put it against, especially having into account that performance depends a great deal on Proton's capabilities. I am a bit unsure as to up to what version of Vulkan Vega supports with amdgpu + RADV driver, though according to the conformance page of Khronos is up to 1.3.0.0, which should be enough for latest DXVK. Alas, Vega performance Vs RDNA 2 (RX6K) is considerably lower. Especially nowadays seems a good idea to put together a Steam Machine using RDNA3 based APUs, which should come with Ryzen 8K parts
The point of what I'm doing here isn't necessarily to do with what is 'optimal', but is mostly focused around having fun with some spare hardware. I'd love to upgrade this in the future to include a more modern GPU - but for now, it works!
If AMD would support interlaced resolutions i would gladly buy their gpus , i cant believe the 1080Ti is the last and most powerful gpu to support interlaced scan , i would like to see what the nvidia drivers are like on Linux.
As a former 5700G user I do NOT recommend using that CPU if you're also using a dedicated GPU. I just upgraded from 5700G to 5700X3D and it made a MASSIVE difference. G series CPUs have half the cache of X series chips, and that's a problem. The 5700X3D is only $40 more than the 5700G and offers much better performance in games, so please go with that to avoid bottlenecks. At the very least, get the 5800X. Just do not get the 5700G. Also, the 6600 XT is around the same price as the Radeon VII, and I'm sure FSR 2 and FSR 3 would be a huge help in performance (VII only supports FSR 1 via RSR). Wait till next year when the 8000 series hits and the 7600 XT will surely drop to that price range too.
In the original video I mentioned that I was going to use a 3700X, but this 5700G was something that came out of a used PC that I bought and flipped. I thought it would be good for a PC like this where I'd most likely be using a used GPU, and if I needed to troubleshoot, having the integrated graphics would be helpful for that. Otherwise, yeah I'd totally go for a 5700X or 5700X3D to keep power consumption down, but give me a bit more performance. If you're building this with new parts, don't use the 5700G unless you just have one like I did. And that's a good point about a newer GPU. Having access to newer versions of FSR would be great, but if you're just looking to have a little fun with some older parts that you have laying around like I wanted to, the Radeon VII just looks cool and performs similarly to a 5700 XT which would be much cheaper. If I could buy a card today, I was either thinking a 7600 XT or a used 6750 XT if I could find one.
@FunkyHQYT what's your opinion on the Bazzite "emuDeck machine" made by the emudeck guy? Price looks a bit marked up but at least it looks pretty seamless for newbie users like myself
@@Ram84_1 I'm just now starting to learn about emulation, but my 3rd gen i3 mini PC can run PS1 games without much issue using Batocera. You might be able to get away with some PSP or PS2. I'm sure Retro Game Corps has a video where he tests an N95. If he doesn't, I'm sure someone does!
@@FunkyHQYT interesting, I tried using Bazzite w/ my G14 Asus Zephyrus last night but when using suspend/resume the game is stuck at 20fps until I restart the game. But I'll look more into it and use an actual gpu in the future build
Question: I wanted to build gaming build with bazzite, but I did run into an issue. I had r5 3600 and RX6600, but my gpu was running hot because the fans didn't want to spin. I know that this has to do with something called zero rpm, but I have to idea how to turn this off. Other than that I had no issues. I got fed up with this and reinstalled win 11. But if anyone knows how to fix that then I'd really thankful.
i am confused on what steam os mode does i have never once seen a video of the actuall os and i am wondering if i can still use steam os mode like normal linux
Bazzite just launches straight into Steam Gaming Mode, but has a desktop mode based on Fedora with multiple options for desktop environments like KDE and GNOME with others planned for later.
Bazzite: HDR is a mess, drivers is a mess, no gamepass, lots of problematic games (anti cheat, launchers, etc) and third party launcher experience is a SUPER DUPER mess. You are 10x better off just auto-starting Steam Big Picture on Windows. This way you almost never have to see the desktop - get the full SteamOS ui - and have 100% compatability to all games.
True, there are still compatability issues with some games. For me it's a non-issue because I won't play Call of Duty or Destiny on this and as long as you have a mouse and keyboard hooked up for the first boot of something like Red Dead Redemption 2 to help you sign into the Rockstar stuff, it works fine. For me, with some slight adjustments here and there, it just works. But I can totally see how some would consider lack of support for some games or the incompatibility with some launchers is a compromise. I'm enthusiastic about Linux as a gaming platform, and that makes my tolerance for tinkering much higher than most (I would assume). I'd also assume that if someone is interested in trying Linux for a gaming system, they'd do the research to know it's current limitations - otherwise yes, run Windows. I've mentioned that as an option in the past. But it goes against what this project is for: to see where we are and how far Linux gaming has come in even just a short time.
@@FunkyHQYT This is a very comprehensive and well written answer. Thank you. I am 100% certain that for gaming - windows should 100% always be the recommendation. Its not only anti-cheat games like CoD / Fortnite. Often games are buggy on release day and need a couple of days until a proton patch gets out. Also 3rd party launchers are A CHORE on linux. Especially on SteamOS / SteamOS derivatives. Because they dont allow 3rd party launchers to run in background. Which results in games updating only when you start them. Which is a big mess - because when you start a game - thats the WORST possible moment to update the game beacuse you have to wait until it finishes. Also many "gamery stuff" is not avialable on linux. There is no easy way to control razer / logitech / steelseries RGB / special features because they dont have linux derivates of their software and drivers. It probably works - but not without googling, 30 step tutorials, etc. HDR is still a MESS on linux. etc Linux is still just a nerdy play space with tons of limitations in real world every day usage. Its a chore to use. Even before using it... just chosing your distro... or leaning "what is a distro? why does it matter? is there a distro for gaming? which is the best? and why?" will probably take hours...
More extensive support for HDR is still being worked on in Kwin and other upstream projects it will get there eventually probably including some older hardware, but possibly not older than the AMD 6000 series and the Nvidia 3000 series due to driver support issues. I've had it working on my 7800XT in NixOS.
Any time I've tried it with my system, it has worked. What I haven't tried is doing while playing a game. Someone just commented and said they have issues with that situation, saying it's really laggy when they turn it back on. I'm not sure what determines if it'll work well or not.
@FunkyHQYT I'm really interested in that because I was thinking I would somehow Bluetooth my phone as a screen and use my phone controller for my phone. This way, I can use my phone like a more powerful Steam deck. I know Steam Link exists, but I don't want to rely on wifi and stream to my phone. Basically, Bluetooth controller to my mini PC or PC with Steam OS and have my phone act as a screen. I could also Bluetooth mouse and keys if I wanted to use Bluetooth.
@@FunkyHQYT I went to google and fond a SteamOs Deck from the steam store webpage, cant that be used? (I sorry for making this questions, I not informed about that steamos scene...)
@@FunkyHQYT ok, tnx for explaning. I thick its strange cuz I know u can install Android in a pc, u should be able to install steam deck on a pc too I guess...
Valve has been planning to release SteamOS for everyone to use. Until then, people have made things like Bazzite, ChimeraOS, and HoloISO. But those don't have official support from Valve. Hopefully we'll get the official version soon!
Going to be building one of my own with the new amd 8000 series gpus highest spec gpu I can fit into my formd t1 going to absolutely crush any gaming console that ever existed or will exist for several years!
Full HDR support is sill being worked on the in upstream projects including the KDE plasma Desktop - It's worth remembering that these are largely volunteer run projects funded by donations so they don't have huge resources to get all this stuff implemented immediately. The KDE project's entire cash income for 2023 was just under 350k Euros they get a hell of a lot done for the money.
@@FluffyPuppyKasey not every distro is trusted and legit , you just like those who are downloading lite versions of windows 10 -11, thinking they won a war against Microsoft.
@@monki_sudo i don't trust any random distro, especially the gaming branded one. since windows works fine why would i bother my self with unknown OS that cant run games i play ?
Bazzite's entire build process is completely open you can see exactly what software they build their images from and the sources that's built from, even run those builds yourself. It's not just a random black box ISO their process is actually even more transparent than many other linux distros because it all about automated image builds using containers. This is a completely different story to downloading random modified windows images there's usually no transparency to that process.
@@FunkyHQYT anything but Ubuntu really. I do like fedora a bit better than the others but Linux is Linux. It's kind of ironic me typing these while installing FreeBSD on a VM but it is what it is. Anyway, if I wanted to be locked out of everything I'd use MacOS and even that has a very much usable unix shell. I am not saying Bazzite doesn't work, no, but Linux needs to feel like Linux...
@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 For a more advanced user, I could see how having things locked down would be a downside. For a normie like me, I think it's pretty alright. 😆
I like how he says "just stick with AMD"... none has AMD. No one will pay all t hat money to DOWNGRADE to inferior hardware to TRY inferior software... how long have the Nvidia drivers been public? So you can expect to always be at least years behind anything else. Have you considered the possibility that Linux is a psyop made by windows? Because I could not imagine a worse attempt at on OS.
Woah!! I use the RX 7900 GRE & loving its RAW performance. Heck, I even use it as a eGPU with a Legion Go, and running smoothly with no hiccups (perhaps some minor driver inconveniences). Nvidia cards' value proposition is horrendous ... I'd rather save 150$ & get equivalent performance with AMD. P.S. I don't care about Ray Tracing or DLSS Also, I am a Windows user, but would switch any day to Linux if it wasn't for my work programs relying on Windows platform. I also call on @funkyHQYT to pin his comment!! 😁
Love seeing people making their own Steam Machines great job!
Thank you!!
I think that Valve could give it another try.
Bazzite is such a fun distro. I'm really enjoying it for both gaming and as a daily driver.
Idk if anyone has said this in the comments already but gamescope is not gamemode, its not a fps overlay, gamescope is a micro wayland compositor used and developed by valve, a wayland compositor is what drives your displays and interacts with your monitors/screen so things like a gui, cursor, hdr, vrr etc show up properly and interact with your other hardware like the gpu.
so when your in desktop mode which is kde plasma by default on bazzite the compositor used on their is kwin, developed and maintained by KDE, so what you can do now is you can either use gamescope as a standalone compositor in the steam os mode or if your in desktop mode you can use it manually with launch commands on steam and it will be used as a micro compositor running ontop of the desktop compositor your running which is kwin
idk why gamescope shows itself as the graphics api in mangohud but it does for some reason
if you had gnome desktop installed on bazzite you would be using the mutter wayland compositor
each wayland compositor needs to implement necessary protocols for different features to work in their compositor so kwin and mutter are both wayland compositors but one might not have the same protocols supported as the other
its why valve created their own compositor so they can bring in the latest protocols into it so the steamdeck can get some of the new experimental protocols like hdr, screen tearing under wayland
its why bazzite uses kwin/kde plasma in desktop mode because the kde devs are implementing more protocols then gnome in their wayland compositor
github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope
great video tho :)
also the fps problem could be a pretty long standing issue that the amd devs are only tackling just now and that is your power profile was not set correctly automatically when you launched bioshock
you can try LACT to switch the power profile to the highest clock speeds and it will stay at that, LACT is included in the bazzite welcome application to install
and this problem will be fixed in kernel 6.13(we are on 6.11 right now)
www.phoronix.com/news/AMDGPU-More-Aggressive-Power
you also do not need shader cache enabled in steam, downloads
amd, nvidia, intel all use a feature called GPL in their drivers that allows the gpu to load shader cache at the start when you launch the game, shader cache or vulkan shader cache is the old way of doing it before GPL came around as with it turned off before gpl the game would stutter until every shader was cached or you could use dxvk async which was a hack for loading it in one go but we dont use that anymore either
Thank you for all of the info! As someone that's casually used Linux here and there since college (a little over 10 years ago) I'm still learning and sometimes I need a little extra help understanding some things. I'll always appreciate friendly advice and guidance!
The Bioshock issue was brought up in the comments, and it may have had to do with Steam launching the Linux version (which is known to have issues) instead of the Windows version.
@@FunkyHQYT yeah could be, native versions of games can sometimes not be the greatest, one example I can think of is valheim native as that has some unity bugs on Linux so I just use the proton version and there is zero issues :)
Awesome more people are trying Linux out so enjoy!
I just put together a R5 5000 and RX 6650 XT build use an old case, Probably 450$ total and play most of my games 1440p (steam deck owner) i have a log usb c higher quality cable from 8bitdo and i am so happy, with all i can do with it. I dont miss windows at all.
These days when I feel like couch gaming I use my ally. Most of the time I use it as the handheld it was intended to be, but I bought 3 cheap docks for it recently. One connected to my living room tv, one to my bedroom tv, and one connected to my home theater AVR. I stream everything from my gaming computer using sunshine and moonlight. It works very well.
Also, your video quality is excellent, and I love tech so I subbed 👍🏼
That sounds like a great setup! Lately when I've had time to game and it's not at my desk, I'll be playing on my Miyoo Mini Plus getting retro achievements, and that's been a lot of fun!
Did you also buy 3 controllers?
Great video, love more attention is coming to this project
Slighy corrections
4:54: `gamescope` also know as Game Mode is what the steamdeck uses when booting up, the stats are monitor by mangohud, and can be changed with GOverlay on the desktop
5:10, set up is the same for Nvidia, you just dont have Game mode, you can mimic Game mode with Steam's BPM, and auto login
Anyway keep up the good work my man
Good info! Thank you!
Thank you for this guide. I'm currently switching from HoloISO to Bazzite.
Thanks for watching!
MangoHUD is responsible for the on-screen stats, BTW
Thank you for clarifying!
@@EposVox Nice to see you commenting on other tubers videos. Love your content, BTW!
GameScope isn't what shows you stats, that's MangoHUD. GameScope is microcompositor (a shell replacement) that runs applications without a desktop environment (i.e. there's no where to alt-tab to). SteamOS uses GameScope for their GameMode on the Steam Deck, which is what replaces the desktop environment with their modified Steam Big Picture (Which is why you have to "Switch to Desktop" manually to restart the user session and load the DE). Also, Bazzite's Mesa drivers are outdated, which is why Bioshock was running poorly for you (you also might want to try a different Proton version, as the default Bioshock will use, is also older). Lastly, enable "Allow Tearing" alongside disabling the frame limit.
I appreciate the explanation! Part of why I make videos is to learn! I could never get stats to show up when running games from desktop mode, so I assumed that was the relation. Good to know!
@@FunkyHQYT All good! Learning is all part of the process. Keep at it man, great content thus far.
Thank you!!
high production value good video! u should have more subs
You sir, deserves more subscribers.
I saw your video! its amazing that it is from 1 year ago!
I'm glad you could found a solution for your controller problem.
I hope more people start to switch to Linux because of you.
The main problem in Linux today is anticheats and a clear guide to how to buy pc components with 100% support.
I think you should do a video about the command line called hw-probe.
with hw-probe you can check your devices and know which of them are not properly supported.
Thanks for watching!! I appreciate the suggestion - I'll have to look into it!
This video came out a while ago, and I don't really know if anyone else commented on this, but once human issue is pretty common on recent versions of proton. I used to run into the same issue on my PC even tho I should've been able to handle it fine, also had a lot of issues with textures just being low res forever and a lot of pop in of objects that took a long time to load along with massive stutters when moving my camera.
I don't know if you tried this already but what fixed it was actually something I kinda didn't think would work, and a lot of people seemed to comment about it on protondb yet I still ignored it for a few days, but it was changing proton version to the very very old GE-Proton7-55. The game runs absolutely fine after just doing that, no longer a stutter fest and my graphics look as they should, but just for good measure I added DXVK_ASYNC=1 %command% in the launch options.
for those who aren't aware yet... once human now has controller support.
Keep the content coming!!!
The Radeon VII was my first GPU, rocking a 7900 XTX. The Radeon VII was a pretty cool niche card for the time, also made for a killer hackintosh build back in the day too
Underrated video, you deserve more subs
Thank you!!
Good luck on the road to 1k. I remember watching the first edition of this video but I forgot to sub
Thanks! I appreciate you!
I dumped Bazzite onto my spare desktop and linked it to my TV recently for those times I want to game in bed on a bigger screen than my Steam Deck.
Ryzen 5 3600 XT and RTX 3070, 4K60 is doable with tempered settings.
Still rocking my original Dan A4 in an extra system, went over to a Ridge on the main, takes up less deskspace on my pretty tight desk (ikea lillåsen, a doorframe limits me).
Great video! Would be cool to see chapter markers to help navigate around to different topics in future videos :)
Great suggestion! Just added them! 🙂
@@FunkyHQYTtalk about quick response! Awesome 🔥
I have been thinking about building a new PC and whenever I have to think about buying Windows I have stopped thinking about it. Might give Bazzite a shot if Steam doesn't announce anything about bringing SteamOS to PC soon.
Love the Alice layout keyboards in the background!
My BearV2 is this nicest board I own and I love it! I have some short sound tests of some of my boards on my channel if you're interested!
@@FunkyHQYT I will definitely check the sound tests out! My current keyboard is a white Akko ACR Alice, changed the switches and the keycaps and it looks and feels great! My only gripe with it is that it's not wireless.. haha
@@FunkyHQYT Looks like you also have the ACR Alice, I was wondering if it's just a really similar looking board, or the same one as mine :)
@@themynx1 The ACR Alice is a great board! I put long pole switches on mine to help with GMK clearance. Gasket performance is nice! It might be the most flexible typing experience board that I own, and it's great for the price!
@@FunkyHQYT Listened to your sound test just now, it sounds great :)
I added the foam that was included with the keyboard in the case, and I swapped out the Akko CS Silvers that were included with it to Everglide Aqua Kings, L+F. I also swapped the keycaps to MDA Black on White, it sounds really good!
Most importantly for me though it is way more comfortable than a regular keyboard layout, I don't have to strain my wrists as much when writing. As a bonus, it's also similar to a Hitbox controller for fighting games, and much cheaper too :) Certainly got a lot of use out of mine, if Akko ever release a wireless Alice, I'm jumping on the occasion!
I'm building my own steam machine next week when all the parts arrive, do you think bazzite is better than chimeraos? Is there any feature that one has and the other doenst?
Honestly, I think Bazzite does a good job of offering a more complete package -making it easy to install stuff like EmuDeck right from the first time you boot into desktop mode. Let me know how it goes!
We used to call those "PCs"
Bazzite suports more than just amd.
bioshock can be is the linux port of the game was good when it cames out after dxvk should now better just need force proton on it as won't default to opengl, I think whats happening
I was waiting for someone to comment on this! Thank you!
@@FunkyHQYT Yeah, this is most likely what is happening. It has a Linux native build that isn't as good as just running the Windows build with Proton force enabled.
i upgraded from my Dan A4 to a bigger Jonsbo D30 becaus i got tired of the limited cpu cooling and lack of space for additional ram and m2 on my itx board (and no undervolt option in the bios) but i loved its comically smol form factor and often took it into the living room just because i could carry it with one hand lol
I've built a friend's PC in a similar case to that and it was nice! The limitations are the fun part of a small case like this haha
Great video, informative, thank you
Hey this was just the video I was looking for. I have the same exact use case. Thanks mang! Maybe a stupid question - can you run applications like fire fox or Spotify?
Definitely in desktop mode. And you'd probably could add them to Steam as a non-Steam game to access them in gaming mode.
This man showed how he applies thermal paste for free. Are you supposed to charge for that? 😉
I even did a "normal" amount too!
YAAAA GO FUNKY GO
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Is that a Radeon VII? What a beautiful card 😍
Yep! And I really don't want to replace it because it's so pretty lol
@@FunkyHQYTdoes your sleep and resume work properly with your dGPU? mine is stuck at 10fps on resume
I think the HDR problem like yours, is kind similar like my own, with my ViewSonic VX2416 monitor. Whenever I tried to switch the colour profile into sRGB it turn's green like your HDR TV. But if I switch it back to Auto or YuV everything was fine in Linux.
Huh... interesting. Thanks for the info!
Surely that's an out focus Guncannon model kit in the background
Nailed it 😎
A fellow man of culture I see. I'm quite partial to the mass production units myself
Boom! 1000 subs
AHH THANK YOU ❤️
I think updating the GPU may solve your HDR problem along with the more GPU horsepower for pretty looking games. I have a steam machine with a 5950X and 7900 XT, running Bazzite. HDR works great out of the box.
Good to know!!
I'm using bazzite with a 7800x3d and 7900xtx video card, HDR is working and running 4k 120hz on my LG G2 no issues
With HDMI>DP cable or just regular HDMI cable?
Put it into a backpack with a built in screen and speaker. Trust
I still have my v1 dancase a4
upgraded to a formd t1 but still love that little thing
I'm really glad I kept mine! I built my first Ryzen system in this years ago with an R7 1700X. The Dan A4 is what made me love SFF PCs!
At that size, there are even micro-ATX cases. No need to limit yourself to ITX.
i have chimeraos on my system and i enjoy but how does it compare to bazzite? do u like it better?
To be honest, if you're in game mode 100% of the time like I've been, you won't notice a difference. People that know more than me about Linux can tell you the differences, but for me the only difference was the desktop environment. On a fresh install, I like how Bazzite gives you the option up front to download things that you might want. Without really knowing, I'm assuming you can do a lot of the same stuff with ChimeraOS. Overall, if your happy with ChimeraOS and it does what you need it to do, stick with that!
So probably a dumb question but on Bazzite machines, steam cloud saving works like normal right? Like I could back and forth between my steamdeck and a Bazzite machine seamlessly? Assuming the game supports cloud saving of course
Correct!!
Dope. That would be perfect for me but I'm too dumb to build a mini pc for myself and then install Bazzite. I just heard about the EmuDeck guy selling his own Bazzite machine with emudeck. It looks like it's marked-up a bit but that may have to do for someone like me lol
I had the DAN A4 since 2017 and I got a Terra back in May. It's beautiful, love the jade green, but it has really awful turbulence if any of your fans are up against the irregular grating on the side panels. Like it's painfully loud and it forces you to do much less than what the machine can actually handle in terms of GPU/CPU fan clearance. I have a 12700kt and an RTX 4070 Ti Super in there and anything that makes the machine "work" makes my room sound like an extra AC kicked on. Very annoying resonant hum. It's a documented issue that I even opened a ticket with Fractal about and they ghosted it after videos and links to others' videos showing the turbulence noise. Bad design.
Best choice is to continue optimizing your DAN and check out the new 2-2.5 slot 4000 series cards by brands like Inno3D and MSI. I wish I went that route instead of a beautiful-yet-loud Terra.
I've heard things about the turbulence noise being an issue! Such a bummer considering I like the overall design and aesthetic of the case.
I appreciate the info! I still think the DAN A4 is a great looking case, and I wish I didn't have to be so choosy with GPU clearances - but as long as they still make 2-slot cards I'll be good!
Once Human for some reason has this horrible stuttering issue with proton 8 and 9, but it works pretty smooth with proton 7. At least on nvidia GPU. Very rare stutters when loading into new areas with proton 7. While with newer protons its horribly unplayable. Nice video!
Good info! Thank you!!
After installing Bazzite, can you completely control it with a gamepad, including the desktop mode and a virtual on-screen keyboard?
Like the Deck.
Yes! I just tried it.
@FunkyHQYT After a lot of errors with the partitioning, I ended up deleting all my old partitions from the SSD, and that was the only way that bazzite installed.
But no BT controllers are able to pair, the virtual keyboard only shows up sometimes, and only in desktop mode. And when it appears, it doesn't register any key pressed.
Bazzite is a completely useless, buggy experimental mess, just like Holo and Chimera. I'll wait for Valve.
Never mind ((-:
After a restart, the BT controllers suddenly appear as paired and work fine in desktop and game mode.
Previously, they didn't even appear in game mode when trying to pair, and in KDE they showed up in the pairing list but had a pairing error afterwards.
What the hell... I'l give bazzite one more chance.
Having into account modern platforms have done away with the Vega architecture, the Radeon VII of this project seems a tad... limited, especially for some of the games you put it against, especially having into account that performance depends a great deal on Proton's capabilities. I am a bit unsure as to up to what version of Vulkan Vega supports with amdgpu + RADV driver, though according to the conformance page of Khronos is up to 1.3.0.0, which should be enough for latest DXVK.
Alas, Vega performance Vs RDNA 2 (RX6K) is considerably lower.
Especially nowadays seems a good idea to put together a Steam Machine using RDNA3 based APUs, which should come with Ryzen 8K parts
The point of what I'm doing here isn't necessarily to do with what is 'optimal', but is mostly focused around having fun with some spare hardware. I'd love to upgrade this in the future to include a more modern GPU - but for now, it works!
Did you used Display Port or HDMI? (Generally Display Port is the better way) This and many other things may affect if HDR is supported.
HDMI since my TV does not have Display Port.
Gonna have to think about it. Once Windows 10 starts charging me for updates, maybe then. Does the meta rift s work with this?
I'm not sure. If you're using SteamVR then I'm not sure why it wouldn't work.
If AMD would support interlaced resolutions i would gladly buy their gpus , i cant believe the 1080Ti is the last and most powerful gpu to support interlaced scan , i would like to see what the nvidia drivers are like on Linux.
hello, is it possible use xfce DE pre-installed?
It looks like KDE and GNOME are the only two available at the moment - with Budgie and Cosmic "coming later".
As a former 5700G user I do NOT recommend using that CPU if you're also using a dedicated GPU. I just upgraded from 5700G to 5700X3D and it made a MASSIVE difference. G series CPUs have half the cache of X series chips, and that's a problem. The 5700X3D is only $40 more than the 5700G and offers much better performance in games, so please go with that to avoid bottlenecks. At the very least, get the 5800X. Just do not get the 5700G.
Also, the 6600 XT is around the same price as the Radeon VII, and I'm sure FSR 2 and FSR 3 would be a huge help in performance (VII only supports FSR 1 via RSR). Wait till next year when the 8000 series hits and the 7600 XT will surely drop to that price range too.
In the original video I mentioned that I was going to use a 3700X, but this 5700G was something that came out of a used PC that I bought and flipped. I thought it would be good for a PC like this where I'd most likely be using a used GPU, and if I needed to troubleshoot, having the integrated graphics would be helpful for that. Otherwise, yeah I'd totally go for a 5700X or 5700X3D to keep power consumption down, but give me a bit more performance. If you're building this with new parts, don't use the 5700G unless you just have one like I did.
And that's a good point about a newer GPU. Having access to newer versions of FSR would be great, but if you're just looking to have a little fun with some older parts that you have laying around like I wanted to, the Radeon VII just looks cool and performs similarly to a 5700 XT which would be much cheaper. If I could buy a card today, I was either thinking a 7600 XT or a used 6750 XT if I could find one.
Can you do split screen gaming on Bazzite mini pc? Like if you hooked up your mini PC to your TV with 2 Bluetooth controllers?
If the game supports it! It should work just like any other PC.
@@FunkyHQYT nice ty. I'm gonna subscribe because you're very helpful
Thank you! And thanks for watching!!
@FunkyHQYT what's your opinion on the Bazzite "emuDeck machine" made by the emudeck guy? Price looks a bit marked up but at least it looks pretty seamless for newbie users like myself
@redfoot2 As someone who grew up having a Sega Dreamcast, I really like the design!
@14:08 is why we're friends, right?
Try cachyos. Didn’t have a good time with bazzite unfortunately
I haven't heard of that one - I'll have to look into it!
@@FunkyHQYT there is a handheld version. Honest to god it’s so good. I have it on my steam deck lcd version atm.
I have a BlackView Mini PC running a Intel N95 Alder Lake CPU...it has 4cores and 4threads....could that PC be enough to run Steam OS?
Totally! Hooking that up to a TV would be a great way to enjoy some lightweight indie titles!
@@FunkyHQYT What emulation can I do on that rig? cna it do PS2 and PSP?
@@Ram84_1 I'm just now starting to learn about emulation, but my 3rd gen i3 mini PC can run PS1 games without much issue using Batocera. You might be able to get away with some PSP or PS2. I'm sure Retro Game Corps has a video where he tests an N95. If he doesn't, I'm sure someone does!
@@FunkyHQYT nice...my goal is to use it as an HTPC and possible light gaming
oregon sub!
i tried 2 distros, fedora and manjaro and neither one i had my wifi not working or sound. no way i can use without it.
Are the parts in the PC really uncommon or old? That's pretty unusual for modern Linux it supports so many devices
Sad that Nvidia cards never work properly in these kind of projects. It would be so much more useble if it did.
Agreed!
From my understanding, when using a dGPU, sleep and suspend does not work even on radeon cards. My G14 has this issue
That sounds like a Windows issue. On Linux, as far as I can tell, everything works as it would on a Steam Deck.
@@FunkyHQYT interesting, I tried using Bazzite w/ my G14 Asus Zephyrus last night but when using suspend/resume the game is stuck at 20fps until I restart the game. But I'll look more into it and use an actual gpu in the future build
What do I have to do in the bios, if I have a PCie 4.0 GPU in a PCIe 3.0 x16 slot (not using a riser cable)?
You shouldn't have to do anything! GPUs are typically backwards compatible, so likely it'll just work!
Question: I wanted to build gaming build with bazzite, but I did run into an issue. I had r5 3600 and RX6600, but my gpu was running hot because the fans didn't want to spin. I know that this has to do with something called zero rpm, but I have to idea how to turn this off. Other than that I had no issues. I got fed up with this and reinstalled win 11. But if anyone knows how to fix that then I'd really thankful.
My bazzite os factory reset itself 😢😢 I'm dual boot with windows 11
i am confused on what steam os mode does i have never once seen a video of the actuall os and i am wondering if i can still use steam os mode like normal linux
Bazzite just launches straight into Steam Gaming Mode, but has a desktop mode based on Fedora with multiple options for desktop environments like KDE and GNOME with others planned for later.
Bazzite: HDR is a mess, drivers is a mess, no gamepass, lots of problematic games (anti cheat, launchers, etc) and third party launcher experience is a SUPER DUPER mess.
You are 10x better off just auto-starting Steam Big Picture on Windows. This way you almost never have to see the desktop - get the full SteamOS ui - and have 100% compatability to all games.
True, there are still compatability issues with some games. For me it's a non-issue because I won't play Call of Duty or Destiny on this and as long as you have a mouse and keyboard hooked up for the first boot of something like Red Dead Redemption 2 to help you sign into the Rockstar stuff, it works fine. For me, with some slight adjustments here and there, it just works. But I can totally see how some would consider lack of support for some games or the incompatibility with some launchers is a compromise.
I'm enthusiastic about Linux as a gaming platform, and that makes my tolerance for tinkering much higher than most (I would assume). I'd also assume that if someone is interested in trying Linux for a gaming system, they'd do the research to know it's current limitations - otherwise yes, run Windows. I've mentioned that as an option in the past. But it goes against what this project is for: to see where we are and how far Linux gaming has come in even just a short time.
@@FunkyHQYT This is a very comprehensive and well written answer. Thank you.
I am 100% certain that for gaming - windows should 100% always be the recommendation. Its not only anti-cheat games like CoD / Fortnite. Often games are buggy on release day and need a couple of days until a proton patch gets out. Also 3rd party launchers are A CHORE on linux. Especially on SteamOS / SteamOS derivatives. Because they dont allow 3rd party launchers to run in background. Which results in games updating only when you start them. Which is a big mess - because when you start a game - thats the WORST possible moment to update the game beacuse you have to wait until it finishes.
Also many "gamery stuff" is not avialable on linux. There is no easy way to control razer / logitech / steelseries RGB / special features because they dont have linux derivates of their software and drivers. It probably works - but not without googling, 30 step tutorials, etc. HDR is still a MESS on linux. etc
Linux is still just a nerdy play space with tons of limitations in real world every day usage. Its a chore to use. Even before using it... just chosing your distro... or leaning "what is a distro? why does it matter? is there a distro for gaming? which is the best? and why?" will probably take hours...
Linux! 🐧
Ever figure out the HDR issue?
Someone just commented that they have a 5950X/7900XT and HDR works for them with no issues. It's probably my older GPU holding me back.
More extensive support for HDR is still being worked on in Kwin and other upstream projects it will get there eventually probably including some older hardware, but possibly not older than the AMD 6000 series and the Nvidia 3000 series due to driver support issues. I've had it working on my 7800XT in NixOS.
"I'm a sucker for some nice wood."
apart from trying out this steam machine, are you a Linux user currently?
I've tried many distros for fun and I've learned basic terminal commands (which I've forgotten), but I don't daily Linux.
I'm dumb and couldn't use bazzite at all. I sadly went back to windows
Did you just not like it?
I thought you were LGR 😄
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If I put Steam OS on a PC will it have fast suspend" or "sleep mode"?
Any time I've tried it with my system, it has worked. What I haven't tried is doing while playing a game. Someone just commented and said they have issues with that situation, saying it's really laggy when they turn it back on. I'm not sure what determines if it'll work well or not.
@FunkyHQYT I'm really interested in that because I was thinking I would somehow Bluetooth my phone as a screen and use my phone controller for my phone. This way, I can use my phone like a more powerful Steam deck. I know Steam Link exists, but I don't want to rely on wifi and stream to my phone. Basically, Bluetooth controller to my mini PC or PC with Steam OS and have my phone act as a screen. I could also Bluetooth mouse and keys if I wanted to use Bluetooth.
Funny how steam machine/console pc failed. Then they released steam deck aka handheld steam machine and its back on the cards.
We need that official SteamOS,great video.
Thank you!
Why does it look like the beginning is a voice over???
The reason the First Descendant reminds you of Warframe is because they stole almost all of their systems from Warframe...
Correct - just using it as a *frame* of reference. 👉👉
I've tried on several devices but your audio is slightly ahead of your video. Makes your lip sync seem off.
14:08 🤣
You don’t recommend Once Human to ANY human?? 😅
Any human running Linux, I think. 😂
Edit: Apparently if you use Proton 7, it's better!
Very disappointing about HDR support. Probably the only thing keeping me off bazzite.
It might just be a 'me thing'. At some point, I'd like to try a newer GPU to see if that changes anything.
if doing a steam machine, why not using SteamOS?
Valve hasn't released an official version of SteamOS just yet
@@FunkyHQYT I went to google and fond a SteamOs Deck from the steam store webpage, cant that be used? (I sorry for making this questions, I not informed about that steamos scene...)
You can download SteamOS for the Steam Deck, but there isn't a version that can just be installed on any PC. Hopefully that makes sense!
@@FunkyHQYT ok, tnx for explaning. I thick its strange cuz I know u can install Android in a pc, u should be able to install steam deck on a pc too I guess...
Valve has been planning to release SteamOS for everyone to use. Until then, people have made things like Bazzite, ChimeraOS, and HoloISO. But those don't have official support from Valve. Hopefully we'll get the official version soon!
What's the point of calling it a steam machine if it doesn't use steamOS?
Valve hasn't released an official version of SteamOS that we can just use on anything. We rely on 3rd parties to make their own versions until then.
Going to be building one of my own with the new amd 8000 series gpus
highest spec gpu I can fit into my formd t1
going to absolutely crush any gaming console that ever existed or will exist for several years!
Heck yeah! I wanna see it!
lgr?
I want to know how many people clicked on this video because they thought it was an LGR video...
And doesn't support HDR
Full HDR support is sill being worked on the in upstream projects including the KDE plasma Desktop - It's worth remembering that these are largely volunteer run projects funded by donations so they don't have huge resources to get all this stuff implemented immediately. The KDE project's entire cash income for 2023 was just under 350k Euros they get a hell of a lot done for the money.
who is this wacky LGR lookalike
Maybe he looks like me 👀
PC community: don't download windows from unknown sources
also PC community: check this random Linux distribution.
You can download Windows from somewhere other than Microsoft's website??
Bro does NOT know how Linux works
@@FluffyPuppyKasey not every distro is trusted and legit ,
you just like those who are downloading lite versions of windows 10 -11, thinking they won a war against Microsoft.
@@monki_sudo i don't trust any random distro, especially the gaming branded one.
since windows works fine why would i bother my self with unknown OS that cant run games i play ?
Bazzite's entire build process is completely open you can see exactly what software they build their images from and the sources that's built from, even run those builds yourself. It's not just a random black box ISO their process is actually even more transparent than many other linux distros because it all about automated image builds using containers. This is a completely different story to downloading random modified windows images there's usually no transparency to that process.
Bazzite doesn't feel like linux. I didn't like it, at all...
What are you used to?
@@FunkyHQYT Linux. I really didn't like the whole immutable thing. It's worse than using MacOS.
@@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 Right - do you have a preferred distribution?
@@FunkyHQYT anything but Ubuntu really. I do like fedora a bit better than the others but Linux is Linux. It's kind of ironic me typing these while installing FreeBSD on a VM but it is what it is. Anyway, if I wanted to be locked out of everything I'd use MacOS and even that has a very much usable unix shell. I am not saying Bazzite doesn't work, no, but Linux needs to feel like Linux...
@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 For a more advanced user, I could see how having things locked down would be a downside. For a normie like me, I think it's pretty alright. 😆
I like how he says "just stick with AMD"... none has AMD. No one will pay all t hat money to DOWNGRADE to inferior hardware to TRY inferior software... how long have the Nvidia drivers been public? So you can expect to always be at least years behind anything else. Have you considered the possibility that Linux is a psyop made by windows? Because I could not imagine a worse attempt at on OS.
LINUX IS A PSYOP 😂
This has got to be the most unhinged statement I have seen about Linux.
@AkibanaZero RIGHT?? It's actually my new favorite comment. 😂
@@FunkyHQYTpin of shame, pin of shame
Woah!! I use the RX 7900 GRE & loving its RAW performance.
Heck, I even use it as a eGPU with a Legion Go, and running smoothly with no hiccups (perhaps some minor driver inconveniences).
Nvidia cards' value proposition is horrendous ... I'd rather save 150$ & get equivalent performance with AMD.
P.S. I don't care about Ray Tracing or DLSS
Also, I am a Windows user, but would switch any day to Linux if it wasn't for my work programs relying on Windows platform.
I also call on @funkyHQYT to pin his comment!! 😁