Mclaren Wanted $8,000 For A Replacement Battery, We Did it For $100
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here is my Mclaren - th-cam.com/video/pb33b4_lsxc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0GRe_wK_ILBx1DHi
3.2v x 4 = 12.8v.
You're welcome.
I want it back
we want stevon back
lol 😂
Nice try.
😂
Dude has a sweet FN2 Civic and wants more? Some people are never satisfied. smh
Rich is such a good friend. He bought a McLaren just to test a battery. That's so nice.
Whoa whoa wait a sec when did he got it.. ? since in the clip it show when he remove the cover but it not show when he actually got it like other of his cars ..
Or he flooded the neighbor's McLaren to get it cheap.
@@poplaurentiu4148 he's had that 720s for almost a while now
With that number of unskippable ads I thought he should have a few of them
@@nooboftheyear7170 I didn't see any ads. :)
Rich just casually dropping his own Mclaren hahaha. I had a feeling that was coming at some point. The battery rebuild is some great content
At first I didn’t get the comment, then I watched the last 30 seconds…
i wasnt ready
You have to confirm the repair, right? I guess the cheapest method to verify the battery rebuild was succesful was to put it in second hand car and Rich had to find a compatible one.
With all the joking around, Leenda thirst traps and Stroopwafel, we forget that Rich is a seriously smart engineer and king of all things electric. This video was a polite reminder that the man is the real deal. Thanks for the “Surrey” side up easter egg at the end!
Rich is a genuine genius but I think the battery making scene is pretty easy to understand compared to internal combustion engines. Mechanics do not get enough praise in my opinion
Remind me - Does Rich have his EE? I seem to remember in his previous life before his TH-cam took off he worked in IT/networking? Possibly I'm way off but whatever - clearly the guy is brilliant.
@@joej3365- oh, no doubt. And a decent mechanic today needs to know the basics of troubleshooting as well as how to interpret OBDII data from all the modules in modern cars. It's not easy to find someone who actually fault locates an issue rather than just choosing to yank the lanyard on the parts cannon. -BOOM!- That'll be $2700, sir!
He really rewarded us for making it to the end huh
11:46
@@samsosw1476 Thats the e60 m5 not the 720s
@@samsosw1476 u on crack
Bruh! What a surprise😂😂😂
Not gonna lie. Its been tough getting to the end of Rich's videos lately. Once Leenda shows up you know the video is going downhill in terms of content.
I’m so glad old rich is back, I’ve missed videos like this
This is just a one off. Then it's back to drama lol
him and stevon must finally be through the lawsuits, can't wait for them to be full swing again
just need to get stevon back and it will be like the real good ol days
Huh. Right. Well I'm not there yet, that's for certain. He's got a very long way to go before he fixes his own bullshit damaged channel, that's for sure.
@@ZackDelgazio-fc6hj those aren’t the good old days loo, before Stevon was around they were, he’s a try hard at comedy, rich is a natural
For a longtime we forgot that Rich is an engineer, this one is a good reminder 🤔
We call them African Americans now watch it with the slurs
Hey Rich, I worked for Tag McLaren in Woking, England as my first job after graduating from 1990 to 1992. I discovered recently that some software we wrote all those years ago is still used by the maintenance staff to service the McLaren F1 supercar - the software/hardware was also used to program and diagnose the formula one race cars of that era - the Ayrton Senna era. Who knew that in this world of almost everything being disposable there is something that I worked on that is still being actively used. I can't think of anything else in my career that has had that level of longevity. Oh, and after Senna there are no great F1 drivers :-)
Old hardware is disposable but old software never dies, especially in large corporations. LOL 😂
Oh yes! I know the software, the stuff that runs on the Compaq LTE 5280s they can't ever replace for some reason..
I have a 5000 series LTE myself which still works perfectly with the obvious reception of the battery!...
@@miroslavmilan well.... I kinda hoard older hardware from all areas, and i can safely say I've only ever had Nickel Cadmium batteries kill old laptops... Rip em out in time and they live forever basically..
NIKKI
Honestly, I'd forgotten Rich was actually this useful... 🤣
What a backhanded compliment.
@@OzhullI mean after watching them really put a banana in the tailpipe of that Argo I wasn't sure lol
@@OzhullBLM👊🏾
I love the “new” channel direction
Lmao!!!! savage!
How did Freddy convince a bank to finance that vehicle he has incredible negotiating skills 😂
😂😂😂
Adam lz has a 3 million dollar compound
Let's not talk about Cletus
@@infernaldaedraNot married anymore.
He just got divorced but Freddy is part owner of Armor Shield, an Autozone, Autotempest and he owns a couple of rental properties. He has a business that invests in other businesses. There is an old Auto Guys Podcast or something like that, but it was him, Charles the Humble Mechanic, and 2 other people where he talked about his channel and then what he invested in. His wife was alsoa avery successful lawyer or paralegal or something, but he probably also put some of his other cars up as collateral
@@infernaldaedradivorced
the community coming together to help Freddy on this huge project is great to see. Love to see it.
Lol... Did you watch the end of the video?
I do believe the A123 pouch cell are suppose to be held under compression as they swell under charge or discharge...maybe both...so they need to be sandwiched together tightly and evenly to prevent deformation...hence the aluminum compression straps and thick ridged end plates..otherwise all cells will swell under use..not just when they go bad...
You are correct
Are we assuming the cell chemistry was lifepo4? 3.2 nominal and 3.65 max? I wish they had mentioned that.
Wow that ending was the ultimate flex. Congrats Rich, hope Steven is healing well. 👊🏾🙌🏽
I mean, battery has to be tested somehow.
What is Steven broken from?
@@FeralRabbit He wrecked a Shelby Daytona rep a couple months ago.
I miss Stevon
He sold Stephen for the McLaren. 😂😂😂
What the hell? I'm poor and there isn't a house UNDER $500k anywhere near me. Insane.
Move. There are houses for 40k where I live in upstate ny
@@jake_of_the_jungle9840 cheaper in Venezuela, but no discount will convince me it is worth it in that country, or NY ...XD
New mobile homes in my sub cost $120k+
@@lothre I’ve grown up here all my life so I’m used to it. I’m on the border of vt so we get the best of both states, if you’ve never been here you’d be surprised how beautiful and quiet it is. Just winter and nys taxes and laws suck but it’s beautiful small towns, land and lakes. The prices are rising here so the affordability won’t be for long. I paid 130k for my 1800 square foot house and 25 acres.
@@jake_of_the_jungle9840 tldr quality of life is low but cheap housing.
As much grief as you give Sam in your videos, he always comes through for you.
Left us on a cliffhanger. How do I know… well I tested it on my own McLaren. Gotta GO. 😂😂😂😂😂
After watching tavrish I’m thinking about buying a flooded golf cart strip it and re do it… 😂
Rich was feeling left out. Freddy and Sam both had McLarens, so he just had to.
Alex (Legit street cars) has one too so yeah he was totally left out LOL
I could tell you're experienced electronics repairman by the sniff test you gave it upon cracking it open.
I do the same with phones and laptops the last thing i want is a Li-ion going bang in my storage cabinet
Dang! Rich casually pulls a car cover off of a 720s 👀
Priceless... ending... he peels back the car cover to his own McLaren.. 😅
You brought me back to my child hood with that rebuild, my moms boyfriend and i used to fix old beta tape players and solder new chips in place to make them work again, thanks for doin the damn thing and showing off the original skills that brought u to this point in your life. Keep up the great content!
you really did save the best for last... I wasn't expecting that buddy, you've made it!
I miss Stevon, but this gives hope hes coming back soon
How long has he been gone? I didn’t even think about it until I read your comment.
@@PistonsProps He's been gone since the accident
@@LobbyDaLobster dang. I saw that video, didn’t realize that was his last one.
This is the type of content I'm looking for
yeah he use make his content this way , thats why im subscribed somewhere along the lines he started to make weird skits and jokes
@@jzila9900 nerd alert. It was all funny & informative. Wasn't like he changed his whole video genre.
Rich out there making you think it was for Freddy, come on now. Uncle Rich is always looking out for number 1. Great video!!
I was thinking the same thing when the 2nd sponsor he mentioned in the video came on and he said the first battery was under $100 and the 2nd one was $275 max but he needed 2 sponsors
This is OG rich rebuilds stuff. Welcome back! I'm proud to see this!
Yeah the cringe skits were not worth his time...
Most people don’t know this but the reason you need some play in the battery constraints is they actually change size when charging and discharging. Anyone can easily verify this by putting them in a vise with a load cell when charging, or alternatively use a micrometer before and after. It’s large at about 0.5% max difference.
Right to repair at its finest!
I use a similar engraver tool at work and that stupid "spin to adjust" thing is annoying. Should probably make it a foot pedal with adjustable air. Love the classic video style. And your ad-reads are the only ones worth not skipping. Godspeed to the whole RR family. (including the ones we don't see as often)
Just a comment on the events at 3:59 - a bench power supply with both voltage and current limits is a great thing here. Set the voltage limit, set the current limit fairly low, let it trickle charge the battery until it's high enough for the normal charger to be happy.
That said, doesn't look like it would have made a difference here since there were some cells that were completely shot.
Uncle Rich is the teacher we would all love
Gotta love the flex at the end 😅
💪💪💪💪
Cells within cells within cells...interlinked
You have literally advanced humanity, the ev industry, and the repair industry. Thank you!
Easy to forget rich is a Wizard when it comes to the battery/computer stuff with all the spicy memes going around. Then he just casually drops a baby blue Mclaren on us.
You are officially the battery dude. I would have never known or thought to take apart the pack like that. Really interesting
As a battery technology student, i'm really worried about Rich's health. 😅
Edit: 2. Gen looks much better. Nice work🙌
i love how simple you make it explaining the electrical part of the battery
7:03 is the most excellent SPAM can opening technique I have seen in ages. That takes years and years of SPAM eating to master that technique! Way to go Rich, Mom would be proud! 😀
Yaaaaaaaay rich got a new car!!
Hopefully stevon is back too!
i hope so.. miss him
Rich is the best youtuber narrator hands down!👏
The 3 taps on the battery after it started the diesel vw are proof of satisfaction. Actually, this vid was quite insightful!
You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir. When you said I tried it on my own McLaren.. I shed a tear; you made it bro ✊ Black success! Keep it up brother 👍🏽
still gonna get kicked out of white people fest. how many will it take to carry his McLaren out this time...
Amazing what happens when you don't play a victim and actually try.
@@SilvaDreams Eminent domain largely Black towns for the highways, Tuskegee experiments,
US government introduces crack into black neighborhoods,
The 1994 crime bill to do with said crack problem. Oh it took 100 years to get an anti-lynching law pass. But hey you’re right stop playing victims
@@SilvaDreamswhat does that mean?
@@pl3387Silva means that too many black people see themselves as victims and blame racism for all their personal failures. Rich is a crab that refused to be held down by all the other black crabs in the bucket. I have a friend just like that.
Nothing more permanent than a temporary solution in tech (it seems)
The ENDING though!!! 🤣👍🏼
Rich and Sam been watching for a year. When my 06 Prius showed me the triangle of death I went to Toyota who wanted 3600$ to replace the battery with a reconditioned one. Two modules 60$, programmable charger 200$, and three days of conditioning. Car works fine.
This is a good proof of concept, i wonder if another proof if concept could be made using those rigid prismatic cells, though i dont know if they make any in the proper form factor needed.
This would not really net you that much, it would make assembly much easier, but it would probably reduce the maximum current available, which i dont know if thats needed for this battery
I have these large 3.2v 280Ah cells cost me about $1800 for 16 of them and i use them for whole house UPS(in an off-building, i'm not storing 10+kwh of battery inside my house), though i bet they make thinner ones that are the same height that would fit in this enclosure.
I plan on getting another 32 of them to build a plug in solar assisted gas/propane hybrid( maybe dual fuel propane because i have 2x1000gal tanks, one right next to my garage)
Rich you and the team stay creating different ways to repair EV's components including the battery
You did not watch his videos on converting vehicles fully electric then, the mini was one of them.
Between the #RichRebuilds, #AgingWheels, and #TheQuestionableGarage channels, I feel like I'm learning something new while stepping outside my comfort zone. Bonus is I don't have to risk my vehicle to do it😁
He made that look more difficult than it needed to be. All you have to do is put the dead battery on an old school non smart charger. I usually use the “jump start” feature between 20 seconds up to 1 minute. Then switch to the smart charger.
I've done the same battery charging trick, you need need more volts on the good battery, can use a booster pack if it puts out enough
I like this style of Video. I haven't watched any of the videos since you finished IceT and this feels like one of the old school rich rebuild vids from back in the fix a crashed tesla days. I'm into it. nice work.
My 2019 Mercedes S63 has the same Li Ion battery from A123 systems. Mercedes only charges 1800 for the replacement for what it is worth. The only rational for this battery is weight savings. If you can work your way around the Mclaren software you might be able to code the Li Ion battery nannies to turn off and just use an AGM battery. That is what I am going to do when my battery eventually dies. Sounds like Mclaren is an even bigger rip off than Mercedes which I guess is not surprising. Would love to source a new A123 Li Ion unit but sounds like they only sell to OEM manufacturers.
Your a legend for helping out our boy that'll buff tavarish with the battery work
I'd imagine the conductive salt water acted like a resistor across the terminals and drained the battery to 0V
BMS shouldve protected the cells from undercharging
@@n.shiina8798 You mean under discharging. Yes, bms kicks in and cuts output.
@@n.shiina8798 High power apps, there is often no discharge protection in the battery. (Power tools, for example). Though the tool itself often has over-discharge protection.
Rich is back with rebuilds!
I love technical content like this. I hope you will repair the big battery too.
ROFLMAO!!! Best line yet!
"They were about $2 million, which is about $1.999 million out of my range!"
I hear ya there!
😅😂🤣
Wait….when did you get a McLaren??? Can’t wait to see how that car progresses!
@@Decipher13At the very end, Rich reveals his own McLaren. Tavarish has a P1. So they did watch it.
@@Spazmatic2000 indeed 🤦♂️
@@Spazmatic2000 that’s what I noticed, it doesn’t seem like many people caught it. They probably didn’t watch till the end. Can’t wait to see how that goes!
Rich, Exhausted on Franklin St in Worcester recycles these and even pays for lithium ion the same as lead acid. I collect and sell electronic scrap for fun and bring all my stuff there.
I love your intro. 1:22 Both houses below $575k? You clearly don't live anywhere in Canada! (exaggerating, but only very slightly). 7:45 the pouches are like those boil in bag lasagnas we used to get in MREs back in the day. They're making me hungry!
Somehow I knew that there would be a Senna in the mix somewhere. Nice work on the "Proof Of Concept". With attention to the details, these batteries aren't hard to make yourself.
I find using an old nicad charger set to match the voltage of whatever cell count the lithium battery is to get it to 3.6v a cell usually works to revive them
Yup that is the first step, the next one is resetting the fet gate array in the BMS to get it to accept a normal charge.
I've not actually seen so much info in a video from you guys for some time... Kudos. 😂👌🤣
I just realized, the fact that it was under water might have helped the battery fire stay so contained.
Also sad to hear Tavarish is not dropping the hybrid system, its what makes a P1 a P1 so it would be interesting to know how that would effect its value.
A couple of milliamps for a few hours can revive a dead battery. But watch out with Li-ion batteries, once they have been deep discharged, they have definite dendrite damage and that means the battery can still work for a while and then just go dead real quick when the dendrites start to touch each other after a few more charges.
That ending was cold 🥶 I see you RICH! 😂
Rich, I love your content! But having useful info like this from a knowledgable guy like you is great.
The first generation battery busbar you built could have done with some spacers. Those poor battery tabs were tensioned wayyy too tight. Was expecting to see some flames!
Rich called Freddy an “up and coming TH-camr”… 😂😂
Not sure uncle rich, but I think this might be a proof of concept….😂
Dropped the bombshell at the end “Mclaren” way to go Rich!!!!
Will there be a face off with Freddy at the end of all this????
Looking forward to what ever happens!!!
When Rich said “up & coming TH-camr’ named Tavarish” I literally starting laughing my ass off 😂🤣😝
Did you add the metal plates in between each cell ? (looks like you didnt) - they are needed even in normal operation to prevent excessive expansion and damage to the battery cell. Just like the pouch cells on a Nissan leaf - is needed to keep a battery alive for any decent length of time....the Leaf uses strong bolts and nuts to compress the whole thing together.....
The metal plates are clearly used and seen in the video next to the original proof-of-concept battery. New metal straps are also used.
Rich willing to risk it all to bring us that awesome content 👏
Seeing you stack those battery cells made realize that you must be a great sandwich maker Rich. Great vid and once again you are the man, Tavarish is going to be happy. Btw GREAT work on the "New version" looks OEM, just great.
A123 actually made the pouch cell battery for the chevy spark also. It actually was a great setup too.
Unfortunately I was a stockholder back when A123 made the batteries for Fiskar. When they caught fire, it was all over for both. Sad times.
Great video Rich... I recently saw you giving advice on another channel regarding the $1,000,000.00 EV van. You were been asked questions about the electric motor and charging plug. People know to call Uncle Rich regarding EV troubleshooting. Oh yeah, there sure are a lot of Stevon fan boys in these comments. They seem to be MAN CRUSHING... Anyways, long live Uncle Rich!!
Nice to see Rich doing actual work and not bs with Steven
Steven built a house in a van and all the custom projects? They did work too
He signs everyone’s paycheques
I never knew those batteries had capri suns in them 👍🏽
Just don't poke a straw in them
RIch, your content makes me have an appreciation for some of the new engineering. I think it's overkill sometimes and often over priced, but I can appreciate their efforts. I don't pay much for things I don't know how they work. This is great content to appreciate and not just ignore newer and more expensive crap!
Freddy sends Rich a burned memory, and Rich sends Freddy a future burning memory. The bromance is awesome.
BUT! did that include the Mclaren logo on it?
where is Stevon? He was in that McLaren video...
So in theory, could one TRICK the car by utilizing and larger capacity 8-10s li-based pack with a decent BMS? Most BMS setups are very similar in my experience at least. Is there a way to match the pin-out from the cars battery monitor port? Make the system think there is a STABLE and FULL charge at the required amp/volt?
... I remember as a kid taking these style battery pouches out of Polaroid photo cartridges.
The best battery charging trick is to avoid buying a smart charger and just be smart enough to avoid swinging the cables around with it powered up
This was the best rich rebuilds video I’ve seen in a long time
I'm a sailboat owner, and we often have more than one HEAVY batteries for our boats. However, we are always trying to reduce weight. I wonder if through this POC test someone could create a deep cycle marine battery that offers similar amp hours, but weighs far less. I guess the future looks bright..
This was a great video and very impressive! Now I just need to go out to my McLaren and fix my bad battery… Oh wait! Neither I, nor anyone I knows owns a McLaren… It is crazy to see how relatively simple the repair on something like that is though!!!
Richie is splashing out on the gorilla tape 😂
Since those are LFP cells there is a LOT less chance of thermal runaway starting a fire. Much safer than say an NMC based lithium pack.
Brother the pouches individually are cells more than two cells and up is a battery. Originally a pile. The BMS can monitor each cell for voltage and also charge them individually so that all the cells come up to the designated voltage. For most lithium cells fully discharged voltage 3 volts fully charged 4.2 volts. I’m amazed at the price of houses in the US in Australia an average house on a 1/4 to 1/5 of an achar block is well over 1 Million $AU the exchange rate is currently $1US = $1.55AU. Our kids will have a very hard time buying a house. Love your work not usually pedantic but cells. Wobbels the mad Aussie.
Love the educational content.
Someone had to say the senna was ugly 😂
because it's true, it's the ugliest McLaren ever made
@@Kyomara1337 I agree
If you float too much amps through the steel, you might have issues how do you stainless steel and possibly band a piece of copper tubing flat folded over it like a bushing drill holes through it and use the nuts to compress the copper were most electricity flows through it, and not the bolt
Really interesting strip down. (I guess the main risks for batteries generally is overheating & fire).
Of course it ended that way! ❤uncle Rich!