New Maxpeedingrods Coilover - Better Built Than Before? Will They Last?
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John I got so fat in the last year my EF Forever shirts dont fit anymore. lol
Lmao! 🤣
Same boat, homie! Same boat!
Try opening up those old max peeding rods to inspect them. Sometimes the nut on the end of the shaft inside comes off. Might be a easy fix and would be interesting to know how it failed.
Oh shit that reminds me of a time doing a front shock change. Cant remember what it was on but as I undid the top mount which is just a top hat so single nut in the middle. The shaft unscrewed internally and I'd already loosed off the bottom bolts. What a bang and fright you get as it jack knifed the shock and spring towards my nuts. Luckily not more than a hard slap to my leg but aye scary times
I have them on my rsx. Well i have 1/2 the set installed. These work great i definitely recommend these coilovers
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sick vid..... downshift is on point great cam views
Been happy with my set once I got the replacement shock. Although Ill definitely be getting something higher end for my next set.
Thanks for the review. Possibly looking to get a set for my EG.
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Nice overview! Seems like they are likely improved, but won't give you the true custom fit of far more expensive coilovers of course. I also hate 15mm nuts!
Great Video and review. Your last video with the adjustable Orange and black Coil overs on your CRX made be buy a set. I paid less than 200$ during a sale. I do not care for how bumpy the ride became. Stance looked fine. You were right about them being a budget starter set to get to know your car, which they did. I think next I will get a set that has better ride quality. Thanks Again for the vids
Thanks for watching and commenting!
just what i been waiting for! for someone to test the new ones out.
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Great review and install as always Jon! MaXpeedingrods has been hooking me up with some parts recently also for my YT channel. I have an EF, DC2, and a RD1 so I might try to get a set one day in the future for one of them
Nice, might as well try them out! 👍
I installed and reviewed a orange set for my channel aswell, I thought they were a great daily budget coilover but very soft with the stock spring ratess, the updated versions do look promising
Let's hope for the best
i have the OG orange boi set on my 96 corolla and i think one of them is blown my top bushing is toast and i get clunks on speed bumps only on the driver side i might spend the money for some FA500s or BCs as they are the only brands for my 96well and XPR but i think i'm done with budget coils
THANK YOU FOR THE DROP AND CHUCK TESSSTTTT
I have maxpeedingrods with crx forks on my dc teg and it makes it lower. Like a stock drop fork
Likely you need to have the mcpherson style struts to have the chamber adjustment on the strut tower. If you have upper ball joints like older hondas, then your camber adjustment would be on special aftermarket upper ball joint set up..
when you say in 29:25 "there's a handful of other coilovers that have been tested for money in that similar range" what are you referring to? Thanks!
I love their coilovers
Really? What do you love about them?
Great review! Thanks for the info 😃
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I bought a set of the orange adjustable dampening for my 91’ integra. Same issue with the front not going low enough. Great budget suspension but very bumpy still yet. Best content on TH-cam hands down btw!
How is it holding up now?
I’m curious to see if these have better dampening. That’s the main complaint I have with my current 12-way adjustable size: when I hit sharp bumps, my rear ended stutters out from under me.
I hope so too
I had these new gen on my channel a month ago in an ek they were fine I also tracked them hard out for an entire day no issue, my latest video I fitted them on an ef and they didn’t lower the car at all
I saw. Hope they make EF specific ones eventually.
@@GarageBuiltHondas I hope so mate, I sent them a lot of data so hopefully they fix it they listened last time I dynoed their old shocks
Hey Jon,
Great video as always! Solid review of the coilovers! Being honest, I think I am going to step up to the next level of coilovers when it is time! Totally agree that having to modify these to get proper ride height just kinda takes them down a notch!
Excited to hear you may be getting more serious about the CRX. Very curious how a good intake manifold, cams and tune will positively effect your times!
You should, you'll appreciate it from the beginning. Definitely want more mods,.let's see what I can get in the next 3-6 months.
@@GarageBuiltHondas I’ve checked but haven’t found this.. have you ever tried ITB’s on any of your track set ups? I think it would be fun with a tune, cam and small head work?
I haven't, but definitely would love to of the opportunity arose.
Honda uses JIS spec metric hardware which have a lightly smaller head than regular metric fasteners.
I wonder if they upped the design on the pillow ball mount to help with less friction on the coilover itself when turning 🤔
Good video and information 🤙🏽
Question for ya. My driver side seems to clunk a lot when hitting bumps, would that be a coil problem or something else? All other corners are perfect except driver side
I had the black and yellow ones and they were decent but very stiff and they make binding noises. The fronts both blew out after about 10k miles of regular driving. I have purchased two sets of the COT6 black and blue coilovers from eBay for a 03-08 Toyota Matrix and the photo shows the correct coilovers but in the box they are the wrong ones and not the same as the photo. The box had a sticker on it that says 03-08 Matrix so I think they made a mistake at the factory or something. Could have been mislabeled somewhere else in the chain I guess but it is really frustrating. I wanted to try them out but I can’t keep driving on the blown coils.
Thanks this help a lot
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Great content!! Congrats well done Jon!!! By the way do you have a break line bracket that would work with Koni yellow for sale? If not, do you know where I get a set for the front? Thanks! CONGRATS again!!!
I don't sorry. Use some zips ties held to the shock absorber. That generally works pretty well.
Send me a set for a 91 civic si I live in Montana. The winter around here kills these kind of performance suspension. Right now I'm running a Frankenstein set that seem to handle the cold and roads well but it hasn't been below 0 much this year.
Just bought a set for my 1995 Integra came in yesterday. Just waiting for a good day to install I'm curious to see how they are now..I had a set on my 97 BMW 328 a few years ago and they were horrible after a year of use.
Hope they perform better for you.
nice thorough review
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Watching you work that reciprocating saw, gives me the willies. haha
I have a phobia around machines.
As a guy who does his own wrenching, this has been a problem for me in the past...
Lol
They look great im sure they will be better then the first design
Let's hope
What dampening setting did you set the front and rears at?
I start full stiff. Then adjust as I feel needed in between sessions.
Maxspeeding rods would have to redesign the pillow ball area to retain the shock travel .......id prob end up using the MPC lowering shock forks on the front suspension to get more adjustment out of the coilover package. Great video content as usual
Or maxspeeding rods will prob go with an over all shorter shock package for the ef chassis as honda and other suspension manufactures have before them.
Both solid points. The forks would amend that situation easily. But that'd require buying them.. lol. Hopefully they build a shorter shock for the EF chassis.
This was a really insightful and honest overview. i remember commenting back when you put the 2nd set in it would be inteeresting from a longevity POV. Great follow up. Loved the track stuff too. Congrats on the podium and on these budget coils, lets all agree these are the same level as suspension found on cheap mountain bikes and there's nothing wrong with that. But evcen so that set failed one in less than 600 miles? I'd just view these as pure aesthetics (not in your case tho it seems!) at the cost of ride quality and longevity of the parts and not a performance part at all (as they stand). If you get performance from your application consider it a bionus. I'd be looking to get a reputable brand for a bit more as once again it's mostly proven, buy cheap, buy twice.
Agree!
@@GarageBuiltHondas phew! Just while im here been following you for a few years but don't comment much. Finaly bought an ep3 in the Summer but still lvoe your channel and your track outings. Im very jelly about your garage!
Thanks so much! An ep3 is always a car I've wanted. Not sure I'll get to own one but I've secretly always loved the body style of those.
Great footage
Great review!
Thanks!
When you adjust the spring down are you not changing the preload of the spring and putting more of a load on the strut than the spring? Or am I wrong about how that works? Just curious just got a set for my 98 accord. And I actually tightened the springs a few turns to take more of a load off the strut because people have so many problems with them blowing out or just leaking.
Correct. Tightening them as you did does add preload so you might be helping the shocks survive a little longer.
can it be that they make smaller cups for lowering applications.. and the taller ones for a more stock look? I dont think its that big of a deal in essence but its amendable... give the custy both...
They could, I don't see an issue. Should be an easy redesign also.
I agree. No more universal setups
Same issue I had with the original sets they don’t allow you to drop the same way FF coils do , looks all good then once you raise the car the front wheel drop and hang so low. Once they fix this issue I’ll buy another set for sure
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How are they after a year
Just got these for my EK and they clunk in the front... it's the top nut BUT I cannot get them to torque down! They just keep spinning. Got one of em somewhat tighter and it stopped clunking, other one won't grab at all. I see you take these apart and ... i guess my strut shaft is just rotating freely? I'm at a loss here. Any advice is v appreciated.
The top nuts on the top hat?
I just installed some ok my 4 g eclipse gt and I’m getting a clunky noise coming from the passenger side any tips to maybe take care of that issue
Double check that everything is tight from the coil to your suspension. Sounds like you missed something
When I received my coils one of them was leaking from the bottom of the dust cover, Can I still fix them ?
I don't believe so. Contact customer service, they should be able to help.
any updates bro? i plan on either getting these or bfo ebay coilovers, they're also from MSR but supposedly a higher quality for my 06 accord sedan. it has 160k miles and oem shocks and struts
If you're daily driving the car you're golden. These just are suitable for track abuse.
I debated on cutting my cup on my cb7 as well Jon. Just not low enough in the front
Do it man, it held up to 30 hard driven miles on track. You'll be good!
@@GarageBuiltHondas yea you were killin it on track👍 that b16 vtec from the gopro on the nose gets me everytime lol. Guess when I figure out the wheel setup on the cb7 I'll cut em up to get low enough 🙏🏼 great video fam. Keep it up 🔥
You need to get a GoPro with an external mic too. Your cars will make waaaaaaay cooler sounds than mine do! 👍
Would the higher spring rate cause a difference in ride height?
No but it will make the suspension squish less so you'll stay at the set height or close to it when you hit bumps
Perfect form on that trash throw
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currently am running the front forks of an 96-00 ek on my ef hatch, are these coilovers still compatible to puton my ef?
thanks for the great content Jon!
Yes. They come with the spacers needed to put in the fork.
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks Jon! surely i will buy soon this, i need for daily and track
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Did the old set of maxspeedingrods coilovers sit that high out of the box as well?
They did. I had to lower from the perches, not the cup.
Sadly I cannot buy this brand. Too many reviews on utube say these components die within a year. Comeon manufacture, you cannot make a shock to last. My past shocks lasted 12 years (ok 5 too many), but you get the idea. good video.
i like watching you slam that sawzall blade on the table due to weirdly pushing down on it as if it's not about to slam down when you finish the cut. neat!
It is what it is. Thanks for your genuine concern.
For the love of god, please lol, im doing a b swap in my ef hatch. Hubs are the last part. When people say to use dx/si knuckle's, do they mean from an ef/eg/ek? Or only an ef? Not sure if you know where i can get some online or what. I live in seattle and work at pick n pull, so i have access to alot of deals, but we dont get anyyy ef's):. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP):
EF knuckles are best, for the 🚟 geometry stays the same. But DA work fine also as long as an alignment is performed after install.
@@GarageBuiltHondas okay ill grab some from a da. Thank you bro.
I saw someone re-use the top hat on their previous gen mxpdngrds coilovers
So compared to the older model of bouncy coilovers you’d say these are good for daily driving?
For any model except an 88-91 Civic/CRX
See that ride height looks perfect to me but that jumping up and down when u hit a bump is what I’m afraid of if I drop my car.
is theere anyway to swap the dust boot and out longer one? I have the old type
You should be able to remove both and try to fit it.
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks
Is the new ones good Iam going to buy this for my Nissan n16
The newest offering is supposed to be the best yet.
How do you add the pillow ball
The new ones come with it.
Man they look nice
They do, let's hope the perform nice too!
How these cot6 hold up? Buying some for my g35x
For track use so far so good. I have never daily driven them though.
Is it possible the shocks started leaking because they arent ment for the higher spring rate? And maybe rhats why your other set hasnt had issue yet with stock springs?
I've never read of rates affecting the shock life. I'd think at least 2 would be done then since they all withstood the same abuse. I think it's just quality control, they need to continuously building a shock that superior to previous ones they've built.
@@GarageBuiltHondas usually if you replace springs on shocks that arent rated for them your at risk of blowing them. I figured its the same for coil overs.....cheap ones anyways lol i could be wrong just thoughts. Im about to thow a set on a 01 civic. Kinda wish i got stiffer springs incase i run it at the track
Can you order the new coilovers with custom spring rates?
Yes, but you need to contact customer service first.
You can also get a shorter spring with the same 8K rating for more adjustability.
The only downside to that is you have a great chance to experience coil bind. With these shocks it would probably happen, with a shock of better quality it could help offset that from happening.
Congratulations!!!!
The alligment its the same ??
You'll want to get your car aligned after lowering it.
Congrats on the podium Jon! These updated coils look nice, but I'm skeptical about the spherical bushing in the front. Cheaper quality spherical bushings tend to wear quickly and introduce play into the front end over time.. We will see over the long-term how they hold up.. good honest review!
Agreed. We'll see where these go
@@GarageBuiltHondas I saw DBG install his & he seems like like them enough but he also didn't seem to experience the same height issues (or didn't mention them), but I think they'll go "IN THE BIN" thanks Marty..... I agree with your assessment Jon, may as well spend the extra $100+ and at least get some Tein coilovers, honestly for a budget set up you really can't beat the good old Koni adjustable & Ground Controls coils.
Can't wait to find out the spring rates
Rates are listed on MXR website
@@tigris4149a2 no need to look. He went over that part in the video. Still weak
I didn't receive a brake line kit either
Omg finally coilovers that have a higher height for my car 😍 #Acura integra
Wow they raised prices that high 🤦🤦 not worth it at that price point. Especially if it seems like the coilovers got a revamp on style and not actual performance. If they are going to be that expensive then make model specific versions and correct spring rates for each trim. They can still use the same shocks and get away with it and at least throw correct springs rates for each trim they offer. The spring rates for a crx just don't work well on DC and EG. That's the biggest issue with mine is the soft springs
You probably figured it out by now but usually you have to settle the suspension in. Meaning test drive it for a couple miles. Not sure how much difference it would make but it would have definitely dropped lower.
They added the spring isolator, but didn't take into account what that would do to the minimum height, especially on a "universal" set. Quality might have gotten better, but product research seems to be lacking still.
They need to make an 88-91 Civic model, hopefully they will.
thank you for your input i have maxpeedingrod coilovers on my crv and i maxed out my fronts and it didnt really lower it much in the front, the rear is a whole nother story im able to tuck the rear not bad for affordability tho
Thanks for sharing and the info!
Just put extended top hats up front. 👌🏽
It won't fit. The shaft is a different diameter than OEM.
@@oneofthemnames3050 that’s what im thinking I recently got shorter 24k springs to go lower and maybe using mpc drop forks to get extra drop would need to look at the shock rod width and fit a proper extended top hat
Is this with the old set or the new blue ones?
I'm looking to get some for my rd1
Hey the code only gives u 5% off and on the discription it says 15%. What’s up with that
I wrote it wrong. It is actually 5%
For the jump in price I'd wait a while considering they are now n same price range as other known name brands. Like my air ride better tho. Last pair of maxpeedingrod coilovers I had rode well just didn't ever even put more then 5 miles on them b4 started tearing into the car and bagged it.
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Apparently the rear shocks for the Miata have too long a stroke. So once the car is levelled there is almost no rear shock travel left!
What tires are you on
Federal RSRR
I had a lot off miles on a set of original ones.
Never had an issues other then being too soft
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I'm having issues with these. The rear plate was sooo huge that it wouldn't bolt on top in the rear..
Have you tried to contact their customer service?
@@GarageBuiltHondas not yet
I still haven't install my gold ones on my rex yet. lol
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MPR hasnt let me down honestly...
I've had good experiences also, except one coil blowing prematurely.
Whoa why the shifter looks so loose I’d be scared to grind gears. Congrats
and its a type r trans
I need new linkage bad.
That stance though
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Don’t the coilovers need a couple weeks to rest? They usually lower more once they settle for a bit.
Maybe a little bit usually coilovers don't settle much.
Ehh it doesnt really do anything anyway
how are the coilovers holding up after 6 months ?
I've had no issues so far
@@GarageBuiltHondas Thank you for giving such an insight into their product, ive been very tempted to pick these up however if you dont mind me asking How many track events/Miles have you covered? Ive Been thinking of using them for daily driving with the occasional track use.
Not many. Maybe 500 miles tops
Well I'm patiently waiting for what the out come is to see if there worth it.
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@@GarageBuiltHondas so are they worth it after time comparing to orange ones ?
Not for the EFs, but all the other models they'll work fine.
@@GarageBuiltHondas ef?
88-91 Civic/CRX, also known as the EF models when talking about cars.
You are the first one to I've seen change out the springs to a better one. By the video, though, they did look a bit too bouncy.
They need better shocks to be able to handle the rebound better.
@@GarageBuiltHondas It seems like it. Maxpeedingrods coil-overs are for a budget mindset, but in the end, you get what you pay for.
Exactly
I knew you were going to throw them nuts in the trash! Lol 😂 honda size bolts only.
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I know color on a track car is irrelevant but DANG those powder blue springs are beautiful too bad to shelve 😕
I like them a lot too, the black & blue contrast looks fantastic!
You have a cool voice!!
Lol, well thank you! 😁
Is that Texas registration?
Yes
Yo, why is your shifter so flaccid?
It has performance anxiety.
@@GarageBuiltHondas Ahhh I get that all the time. Sick build though!! I almost bought a 87 CRX. I need a bigger garage. I'm planning on getting the 24 way adjustable dampener coil overs for my 8th Gen Si.
They look great just sucks you had to modify them to get it lower
I agree
Update?
They're still on the car. Haven't driven it since a track day in November.
That induction noise is why i love B-series so much
Sounds so cool!
John be honest, there’s no way you’re getting the most out of your car with these. I’ve had nothing but issues with my set and the company no longer even bothers to reply to my msgs about faulty product. It would take a whole lot of changes for me to ever consider these again.
Sorry to hear man.
@@GarageBuiltHondas Seriously, these are junk. You really need to look I to how to modify and revalve Bilstein shocks. These are not performance shocks or spring and intended solely for a cheap adjustable drop.
Shorter spring from Swift will lower the shock and car
Put them on a shock dyno i bet a stock honda shock performs better