@@danielarnold7466 I think we all would have fainted if that was the case, I love my maxies but after riding in a car with shockworks coilovers I can safely say shockworks aren’t on another level they are on another planet by comparison I didn’t know suspension could be that good they truely are amazing all custom tuned
I'd love to see the results for a kyb and Monroe and Koni. Thanks for video Tristan. Super informative. I have often thought a spring and shock would be better performing, even if it didn't have 36teen adjustability.
Which is why many EG/DC Honda guys ran the OEM ITR spring/shock combo :) EDIT: I was surprised with the AMRs, but I think it has a lifetime warranty, would be nice to do a re-test. Probably with a Koni yellow too.
Exactly - as an end user we are in the dark when it comes to shocks - just got to trust a brand - which I hate - I'm in the brakes world and many big brands are rubbish. We need more data/dynos on shocks to make informed buying decisions.
Chris did a great job not only explaining the shock dynos and why a certain brand performed better than the other, but he stayed professional and did not bash the budget MaxpeedingRods which I think would be very easy for most people to do. That’s for this informative vid Tristan!
The results of this test were shocking! The winner should strut their stuff! I am sure the runners up will spring back. They all will have to deal with their own bumps in the road though. This video definitely didn't dampen my spirits!
The losers will no doubt bounce back, perhaps too much. I thought the competition would be stiffer. Nothing worse than the soft bigotry of low ride expectations.
I have been fitting shockworks products to a customers car. I have had several cars with different coilovers but have never driven with anything like the shockworks before! Ive definately learnt from this video, i was unaware that the shock is able to give body control. I thought that was purely upto the spring and swaybars. Thanks very much for taking the time to make this video guys.
Same! I would have liked higher spring rates for my own car. But for my customer, it was the ultimate road car setup. They dont look super flashy or anything on the outside but its the tech and RnD thats inside them is where the money is! I do have some really weird old HKS/Kawasaki s13 coilovers with inverted tube shocks that looked like they would be good but where terrible on the road if you ever want to run another random bunch again.
Thank you guys for this test/review which is not only without any self interest but really objective, technical and really untainted results. It seems "Made In Japan" is the best no matter the brand (Showa, Cusco, Buddy Club) or age (20 or over 30 years). I am sure KYB and Tokico would perform similarly. Safe Real value over time. Mid range price may be a hit or miss. Cheap is just good for stance, mild casual use and short term use.
FYI, you are better using the full trace for Force vs Velocity rather than peak values as you are in the video. This shows you the hysteresis (lag is the term the operator is using) a lot more clearly and while you can see this in the Force Displacement curves shown, really you want to use both as they allow you to look at different things (hysteresis on FV, friction in FD for example). Peaks are OK if you are trying to hide a poor dampers performance from customers(as a lot of manufacturers do) but the full trace is much more informative, especially for comparisons like this. The Maxspeedingrods dampers are both plain orifice dampers, theres no shim stack operating hence the damping is increasing with a characteristic V^2 curve (i.e. as velocity increases, damping increases with a squared law). The AMR damper is definately topping out in one direction hence the force spike at the end of stroke in one direction (you can hear that even without seeing the force spike in the graph). I work for the damper dyno manufacturers in the UK and have used Dynosoft2000/MX extensively and designed many high end dampers ;).
You have answered a massive question for a lot if civic drivers that have always wanted the best bang for buck when it came to ebay coilovers. You legend!💪💪🚗🚗
@@stevewilson8752 it's a massive question. It is that massive that I forgot what the question was because if you look carefully I wrote it 3 years ago buddy
I'm not sure I follow how the Bilstein was rated lower than the Cusco when at 16:29 Chris said that, while both were a bit low on gas, the Cusco still didn't quite have the response that the Bilstein had.
@@TonicofSonic Well, you might have a point but I'd like to assume (dangerous, I know) that either he also knows this or that he's looking at general specs that apply, well, in general, and that either way, he knows what he's talking about.
Time to revisit. Add KONI Yellow and the latest MaxPeeDingRods offering. I hear they "upgraded" them again. Maybe throw in some budget dual-tube style, and the latest bargain monotube. Glad this vid shows my usual "Throw some yellow bils on it" for street cars, and "Don't you dare replace honda OEM shocks unless they are blown or bouncing" advice is sound.
Bro the touges about to get absolutely munched by these weapon's HAHAHA, in all seriousness tho these would help big time when it comes to track and mountain passes, my fenders are carving new tread into my tyres every time I go around a corner. They're buggered
Forgot the part where you gotta explain why you need em, well it's the same as everyone else tbh I run mountains in my civic and just need better handling, I got Hella scrub cause I'm running some thick federals and the dying shocks in her are just trash. No other reasons tbh, in reality if I save for a few weeks I could get em but hahah
I’m running the max speed black and red coilovers on my lowered Camry and I must say they perform pretty good for the price I can’t beat it. Had 2 blown shocks so anything helps. Thanks for the video man!!!! Keep them coming
id like to see more shocks tested/reviewed like this. maxpeeding rods has new shocks out now and id like to see how they look on the dyno. and with all the different coilovers out on the market these days i think this would make for a good video to make every week for a few of them if you can get your hands on more coilovers.
I will be doing more in the future i have road tested the new mxrs and they are really good interested to see the dyno results, I have my hands on all sorts of suspension daily, new video coming out soon i have the only set of KONI col overs in the country to suit civic
Thanks for producing this content and having Chris walk us through the results. I have seen some say that Bilsteins with lowered gas pressure are a really solid setup. I think they may be onto something as Bilsteins on the street can be a bit harsh and have quite a bit of feedback in comparison to a Koni yellow which does ramp up hard, but overall is more comfortable until it's not.
Honda still uses Showa (Hitachi Astemo bought them), KYB, and even ZF for dampers, these days. Showa has made some really good dampers from civics to miatas, over the years. Thanks for the quality, humble content!
To add to this, I've seen a few Honda models fitted with Sachs shocks from factory. Not sure if they still use those as the models I'm referring to are 5-10 years old.
Just realised this is the correct video to share and comment on Local guy just building a k series EG with a modern twist Having these coil overs would help reduce the costs to get it up and running on the road! EG is currently stripped bare and getting all rust removed!
I've seen about a dozen personal accounts, from members in a car forum I'm on, of maxspeedingrods breaking at the welds. Most commonly if there is a link bar bracket welded it breaks off. A couple said the base broke on rears where a skinny arm is welded. One person said the top cap split. Saving money isn't worth wrecking possibly dieing, get at least one step above!
I do agree however since this test mxr have really improved we use their T6 shocks in our endurance race car hit every ripple strip and get air borne and have had zero issues, this test was done on the T3 & T4 version, they are up to T7 I have shock dynoed them and they graph as good if not better than a lot of the expensive brands in this video
Solid video - thanks heaps for the comparison. I've got my 10+ year old standard setup on my XR5T it hasn't failed but I feel a set of these will bring some of that enjoyment that faded a while back!
Awesome content. Definitely would stop all the arguments on the Honda forums and other ones too. Explanation is excellent from Chris and Shock Works. I have been using the old style maxspeedingrods on a budget track car EK like yourself Tristan but after seeing this I think I might have upgrade to the new style. Even if I don't win I will definitely use the discount code. P.S. Bro, you need to bust more myths.
Thanks for the support brother, after what I learnt I wish I could afford shock works they are incredible but as I have said many times maxpeedingrods seem to be working fine for me at my cars level, I would love to bust more myths any suggestions
@@TURBOTRISTO well, like you I've into cars for a while, I am a mechanic by trade... recently, I've noticed a lot of trolling behavior on the recent topic of Stock brakes are fine and bigger brake kits don't make better lap times... test with a control tyre of course, do a 3 or 4 part series on oem pads vs aftermarket, oem brake lines vs braided(use a control brake fluid), then move to oem single piston caliper vs aftermarket multi-piston setups...maybe talk about brake master cylinder upgrades...
I just heard of "MaXpeedingrods" only a few days ago in 2023, so I'm waaaay behind this "debate" -- I remember there was a time when people used to put down the BC / Megan and other Taiwanese coilovers, but they aren't the bottom of the barrel any more with these $200-300 "eBay" coilovers, I guess... Do they even make any money off those at that price?? I'm glad I caught this video to see a variety of these to a standardized professional-grade test. Weird that AMR had some issues -- I run those w/Hyperco springs on my AW11 MR2. I have KW V3s on my other track MR2 Spyder. I've run Koni Yellows / Eibach in other street/autox cars... And on the other end of the spectrum, today I just ordered the Maxpeedingrods for my daily driver Lincoln Navigator for $300 shipped lol: I have no expectations at the price point, but they'll certainly be an improvement over the collapsed air suspension!
For the price you can’t go wrong but if you pay more you can get better suspension it’s a real common sense decision people that see a $300 coilover and complain that it isn’t as good as a $1500 set- those people need to check themselves, thank you for watching, I have done heaps of reviews and track testing of these, they hold up and do the job
"for the price" So you are not aware of any dangerous issues with these things? Because from my personal experience and that of people I know I would dare to bet these things have killed people and will continue to be a lethal danger on the road. Also there are better options for the same price. I'm
I’m 17 as well & i own a 1998 honda civic lxi. Have always wanted coil overs for the ride height and performance but can’t afford them as i’m still in school. I would be really stoked to win one of the two. It would make my civic handle and look 100% times better! 🔥 Cheers
All the best bro good luck get your friends to like and comment on your comment and you have a chance to win, my civic is a 1998 also !! But mine is a gli
So I've been considering these maxspeed coilovers for my step sons 95 eclipse. I think we are going to buy some and then later when he starts working upgrade to a nicer set. They have to be better than the stock blown out suspension that's currently in it. Thanks for the video
Beautifully done, I have used maxpeeding coilovers on my ED and EG civics before, I am currently using them on my EF8 as well and I have an EK4 waiting for coilovers and I would love to win a set of these🤞
I got a Toyota 86, I started by replacing the OEM suspension with the BC RACING BR kit, it was a small upgrade but still I was disappointed, then I bought the CUSCO Zero 3R kit, now we are talking about a product that actually work, one word capacity.
@@TURBOTRISTO It was almost 3X the price to get the CUSCO build to specs, but the difference is night and day so it is worth it. I also bought their clutch pack limited slip differential, incredible product, it's basically a new car, supercar :P This video is very good, maybe the best video on damping available on TH-cam, thank you!
New coils would really level up my CXI ive been dailying for the past 3 months, cheers for the good content mate! Good luck to all the boys entering the giveaway!
Great video thanks alot for going to the effort to teach us all about how shocks work and which ones are good and how the cheap ones are not as bad as many people think.
I want MaxSpeed Coilovers because they match my personality: slow, behind the competition and not sure if they will last very long. *Edit: If I were to win. I would like the new anodised version due to dyno results.*
it would be nice to see another comparison for the other brands, as there is a lot on the market. HSD, Tein, HKS, YellowSpeed, Maister R and bunch of other ones. Would be really nice to see how they all compare! Great video!
Really awesome video man. This is great info. Given the cost of MaXpeedingRods, seems it would make sense to replace your blown OEM struts with a set. Obviously if you can afford the nicer suspension, you'll get what you pay for or something like it.
@@TURBOTRISTO @Believer21777 0 seconds ago @TURBOTRISTO I did. I got it fine. My right front oem was leaking badly I went max speed rods fro all 4 front and back and they seem great for everyday driving. I am a happy customer and didnt break my budget on a 3,400 car one deer away from being totaled.
Dude, this was awesome info! Now I understand the difference between a good shock and a crappy one. HOWEVER!!!! You can't really perform a test like this using the method u applied. You need to test at least 2 of each brand. ie. The American model was clearly a factory defect, and IMO because of the technology (pressure, fluids, gas), it's pretty likely that there were more that underperformed or perhaps overperformed their brand just by chance. That's why you need at least 2 tests for each brand. The real lesson learned here is, you can buy good shocks and still get a bad ones and never know, sans the dissatisfaction. Looks like Quality Control is the right way to shop them out! Again, the information was fantastic! you got my sub!
thanks boss beek! yes I agree, at the time i made this video as you can tell the camera quality is low and the lights are flickering, but all that aside I borrowed all those sets from people and luckily for me Chris from shockworksis is local and had time to do the comparison, I would love nothing more than to test 15 different brands and three sets of each all for the same car , you are 100% correct some of those coilovers were old some where new some were from crashed cars , but the info and message was all the same, when shocks leak they leak regardless of age, the factory civic shock were nearly 30 years old with over 300,000kms on them and still performed like new , there will be more videos like this coming soon
It's a gr8 video! It's interesting to see the progressive dyno on the Maxspeed coilovers; usually, it's often found in the gravel rally dampers but it's for sure not as good as a real progressive rally damper like Reiger or FOX etc.
As a joke, my buddy got me some ebay coilovers for my daily driver.. I actually put them on to slam it (lol),, and will say they are definitely functional to a degree. They dont exactly soak up your standard pothole, but they are stiff, and even came with adjustable damper and camber. Certainly suitable for autocross, or anything entry level
Confused... Are you saying Shockworks came second but Cusco came first because more linear and better if you hit a pot hole? Which is best here for regular street car?
Very informative video buddy! Might have to make an inquiry to see if they could possibly help me out. Cheers! D16 turbo 1984 Honda city might see the light of day soon. P.S, I’m afraid of heights, so must lower my car 😂
You will be pleased to know I am helping with the restoration of two Honda city turbos one will be modded one will be mint original and we have 2x motocompos to go in them
@@TURBOTRISTO that is so good to hear man. It’s my first car that I’ve held onto since forever lol. Suspension has always been a sticking point with me. You don’t happen to know these two guys in Sydney do you?
Great content guys and super informative. I’m a very amateur former club-level racer here in NSW who achieved reasonable results using the Tein Superstreets with the spring rates and valving as per Fulcrum’s setup. Oh-in a GDB WRX STI. The rear struts started leaking after about 5000km but I believe it may have been extended time between drives may have buggered the seals. I’ve had both rears rebuilt and the front left is leaking and knocking too. Have you dealt with these struts before as I’m keen to hear your opinion. I’m thinking seriously about Shockworx setup for my FG GS. Good to see they performed well, though I’m also considering Bilsteins on Kings low as it’s not a track car. Great content and I’m subbed.👍
I would get shockworks over tein any day heck I’d get bc over tein, but shockworks are amazing all the top time attack cars run them, plus they can be valved for street also
@@daskamu I’ve had both rear dampers rebuilt and the front left needs rebuilding as well. These are Tein Super Streets with less than 15,000 km on them. I’ve found the Teins are great while they are working, in so far as they are OEM factory quiet, comfortable for the daily drive and still capable on the track for a bit of club-level shenanigans. The damping/spring rates are far from optimal for track but I’ve put down some respectable/competitive lap times on the Teins and I can “glide” over ripple strips that upset stiffer setups. The low-km rebuilds are the biggest problem with mine, but I’m probably contributing by leaving the car for weeks at a time.
@@TURBOTRISTO most of the serious guys and gals in the NSW combined clubs Supersprint series I used to run in seem to be running MCA although I’ve seen some very quick cars on KWs, HSDs (surprisingly good from my observations) and BC racing. If/when I get the time to get back into it, I’ll be tossing up between MCA and Shockworks for a more track-focused setup for my long-suffering bugeye Subie.
Just wrote off my Honda jazz (was rear ended ,can give proof) and was just looking into getting a 98 white civic sedan ! Really want a build it as it would be my second car and I feel like I can challenge myself ! Would really love some coil overs to kick them off !!!!
been a while my YT brotha ! just got the old ladys MXR replacements in and am trying to hunt down you adjustment video so I dont bottom them out like last time lol , hope alls well my friend !
Would love to win a set for my '97 EK mate! Although, I am in the Philippines, so maybe I'm out in terms of selection. Either way great videos as always. 🤘🏻
Where did you get that Multimatic dyno lol? More response doesn't always mean better. That's how you get really bad nibble. Other than looking at the curve to see if the damper is functioning as intended, you can't tell whether it's a good damper or not. So much depends on vehicle config and tuning targets. It looks like you smacked the base valve or floating piston on the AMR. As it travels from full rebound on the left to full compression on the right, the forces jump at the exact same spot and then it resumes opperation as normal. Probably will go away if you reduce the travel. But the tuner definitely knows what he's doing. His Shockworks dyno curve was beautifully shaped! Probably smooth and glides on smooth road, but kicks in the rebound control agressively, but progressively.
I’m no expert but Chris is he was litterally born into shocks and has spent his life mastering them, what ever he says I just smile nod and take as gospel
The maximum pee rods are not all that bad for the price. I ran a set for a few months on my Bugeye WRX while I was deciding what I actually wanted to go with. They were actually surprisingly OK. If you just need something quick because your OEM ones took a poop they will serve you just fine. You can even get a bit sporty on them as well lol.
@@TURBOTRISTO yeah I used the COT6 coilovers and they were super easy to adjust and install. If I was playing to do some sporty driving ("doing turbos" is what my girlfriend calls it lol) I would just adjust the knobs to stiffen them up and for everyday driving I kept them somewhere in the middle of the adjustment range. They actually looked pretty good as well, the blue and black looked really good with my blue brake calipers and gunmetal gray rims. They are definitely an upgrade from the OEM suspension that came on the 2nd gen wrx's. I eventually upgraded to a set of Tein coilovers and the only real difference was that the adjustment range was more dramatic and they felt less bouncy and at their softer settings, but honestly there wasn't actually a huge difference in the overall performance.
Hi. My first car a DelSol (B20/B16 frankenstein). And i think the stock coilover is quite weak for it. Once in my life i won a 0.5 l cola, so.....😈 Good luck and have fun for all. Greetings from Hungary.
I would love to win a set of the newer version of the coilovers for my 2000 ek hatch. The only thing I've ever won in my life was a Mulan cap from Video Ezy in 1999 hahahaha. It was a colouring in competition lol.
I have a 96 civic I really need some coil overs, I have upgraded to front and rear anti roll bars and polyurethane bushings, still have stock springs and struts. I just had it painted and have a video on here with it.
Would these fit on an R34 sedan? I'm trying so hard to get parts and convert to manual. I tried getting R34 in Canada but they are out of stock. I'm not desperate, I just like watching creators whom have great content and are down to earth. Most Aussie's seem this way. I guess when almost everything can kill ya you need to have a more relaxed outlook on life, lol. I wish all the best of luck but to be honest I want the damn things. I also just got screwed by contractor whom dusted me and my garage build I sadly work in an unpowered oversized shed. Sigh.
Well man Canadians are just like aussies in my experience good chill people, I used to own an r32gtr and an R33gtr great cars these will not fit, however skyline coilovers are reasonably cheep if you join some skyline forums in australia you will find people to help you out ❤️🇦🇺
Haha, I just ordered AMR engineering coilovers for my e36. My friend has them on his ITR swapped hatch and I was super impressed. Too bad we can't get a good comparison. A long time ago I had some TEIN SS on my honda accord, probably the best coilovers I ever had.
In the near future I'm thinking about getting a set of the max coilovers but after looking at this I'm kinda disappointed but my question is...how would the coilover behave with the spring on it and will the spring rate help in anyway? I'm on a tight budget 😅
hey mate, just a comment re the flicker in the video. If you were unsure how to fix that/what is causing it.. it is the framerate of the camera not matching the stupid 50Hz frequency the Australian power grid uses. you won't notice it with a bulb or normal light, but with fluro's they turn on and off constantly at the 50 Hz frequency as the power grid. This means if you have the camera set to record at 30 FPS or 60 FPS it wont match the 50 Hz frequency of the fluro and cause the flicker. If you set the camera to 50 or 25 FPS that should fix the issues as it will be in sync with that 50 Hz. Sorry for the long message, just thought it may help with future content :) Loved the video great content!
Thanks Kevin I wish I had this comment 6 months ago brother you would be a life saver!!! My mrs only just fixed it last week for me haha I’m hopeless with tech haha thank you for helping me out, you are a legend
Hope I can win this giveaway, would mean a lot to me 🥺 can’t afford new ones and I have had a life threatening accident from faulty suspension failing and sending me into a guard at high speed. Would love to put some max peeds in my turbo civic much similar to turbo tristans! Located nsw! Unfortunately 🥺
Thanks man, sorry this is my acc it wouldn’t let me post the comment on this acc, was very lucky to be alive. Never trust cheap suspension, I do hope the people realise this would be a great thing for me and my build. I’m very dedicated to my Honda Civic 🥺
Yep. Max speeding rods can take a hike. It would have been good if you could have tested new.. but seeing OEM hold up well after 300,000km and out perform new max speeding rods… re affirms I’ll. To buy them. I will check out shockworks to see if I can afford them for my two CELICA’s. ST-184R and 2ZZ-GE
Hi my name's Michael and I already use maxpeeding coilovers (original ones) in my hillclimb b18 eg hatch to beat Porsche GT3's , Elfin v8s and other high end purpose built race cars 😅 their confused sad faces make it all worth while 😅
Great video! And the explanations provided are awesome… cheers! Also i think these shock should have done at full stiff, to avoid running mostly on the bypass
*ADD ON TO MY ORIGINAL COMMENT BECAUSE REPLIES MAXED OUT* *I REALLY NEED THESE CAUSE I'M ON MISMATCH SPRINGS AHAHAHAHA, MY LEFT IS LEANING LOWER THAN MY RIGHT SIDE*
Wow this is super interesting I wonder how other brands like truhart, rev9, tein, fortune auto, Meagan racing, and function and form all stack up against the stock. I've seen so many ppl advocating for the maxprods I'm glad I never bought convinced by their self justifications
Great point!, i still advocate for mxr purley based on the pricing, they arent bad, they certainlky arent good, but they arent bad that for sure they did better or close to some more expensive coilover kits
I'm looking to upgrade my OEM shocks on my 2006 Acura RSX. Unfortunately Cusco's specification sheet doesn't have the DC5 compatibility. I'm looking for a premium comfort shock for daily driving. What is your recommendation? Should I write an inquiry for the Shockworks, or look into more generic brands such as BC or Tein? I'd appreciate any input, I am very new to any type mechanical modding let alone car scene thank you.
if you are only wanting to upgrade the shocks with out lowering the car I would recommend some KYB SR's for the ultimate i would recommend some neo max or shockworks then something more generic i would say BC or Tein is ok but may be slightly harsh
@@TURBOTRISTO I appreciate the swift response. Im not particularly interested in lowering the vehicle. Overall comfort is priority, I’ll look into KYB and Neo Max. I haven’t heard of them before. Shockworks look amazing, but may be overkill for my application. Thanks again
I run 30mm lowered springs and kyb sr shocks in my mrs accord euro daily driver it’s great still feels oem but it’s lighter and handles better and is more stable
@@pimphand1982 hey man heaps of them are rebuildable, shock builders keep their valving and other settings a huge secret it’s really the one thing that makes them different
I wonder about the newer BC Racing stuff and the external reservoir ones. That's what I've got, dare I say they've been great. They sell for almost $2k USD. They're on my road course car. I wonder what it costs to ship them to you lol.
There are 2 versions of BC, the basic one BC V1 with 44mm piston (the one you test) and a slightly more advance model BC BR with 46mm piston. Do you think a bigger piston and body can improve the performance significantly? (Currently I want to change my coil overs, the price between BC BR and BC V1 is not too big, around USD$150)
@@illson12345 since this video there have been several updates to almost all brands mxr have revised their design 5 more times and are as good as the bc tested and bc have improved aswell, I recommend buying the best most expensive suspension components you can afford
Hey just wanted to ask when you have the chance please if you think maxspeedrods are good for lowering the car to daily driving and will be good to ride on i dont want to drive and have my springs come off😅 I have a 05 acura tsx thank you!
Yeah they sure are they can handle the punishment. You just need to make sure they don’t have any leaks when they arrive the quality checks aren’t the best, if they leak send them back they will replace them no charge , if they come with no leaks they will last you years no problem
I'm not sure about today, but I know Honda owned Showa for the longest time. On dirt bikes it was really common to see Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki all running factory KYB and Showa on the Honda.
Final Results
1/Shockworks
2/Cusco
3/Showa OEM 350,000kms
4/Bilstein
5/New Maxpeedingrods
6/ BC Racing
7/Maxpeedingrods
8/AMR Engineering
Nice winner shockworks.. shame it wasn't the maxpeedingrods
@@danielarnold7466 I think we all would have fainted if that was the case, I love my maxies but after riding in a car with shockworks coilovers I can safely say shockworks aren’t on another level they are on another planet by comparison I didn’t know suspension could be that good they truely are amazing all custom tuned
@@TURBOTRISTO well in that case... I look forward to when your able to give away some of those bad boys when your famous 😉
I'd love to see the results for a kyb and Monroe and Koni. Thanks for video Tristan. Super informative. I have often thought a spring and shock would be better performing, even if it didn't have 36teen adjustability.
Which is why many EG/DC Honda guys ran the OEM ITR spring/shock combo :)
EDIT: I was surprised with the AMRs, but I think it has a lifetime warranty, would be nice to do a re-test. Probably with a Koni yellow too.
I wish shock manufacturers would publish the types of graphs you showed. It would make shopping and comparisons so much easier.
I Do plan to do more vieos like this
Exactly - as an end user we are in the dark when it comes to shocks - just got to trust a brand - which I hate - I'm in the brakes world and many big brands are rubbish.
We need more data/dynos on shocks to make informed buying decisions.
Chris did a great job not only explaining the shock dynos and why a certain brand performed better than the other, but he stayed professional and did not bash the budget MaxpeedingRods which I think would be very easy for most people to do. That’s for this informative vid Tristan!
Not a worry man! Chris is very professional
@@TURBOTRISTOoh sure.
The results of this test were shocking! The winner should strut their stuff! I am sure the runners up will spring back. They all will have to deal with their own bumps in the road though. This video definitely didn't dampen my spirits!
Very clever my man
@@TURBOTRISTO my wife reaction was great. "HA.....HA.....HA.....you are SOOO FUNNY."
The losers will no doubt bounce back, perhaps too much. I thought the competition would be stiffer. Nothing worse than the soft bigotry of low ride expectations.
I was going to give this a comment a thumbs down after reading it and groaning, and then I noticed the name. Dad Jokes for days, sir.
@@GoneAsGoneCanBe lol! Can't help it.
I have been fitting shockworks products to a customers car. I have had several cars with different coilovers but have never driven with anything like the shockworks before! Ive definately learnt from this video, i was unaware that the shock is able to give body control. I thought that was purely upto the spring and swaybars.
Thanks very much for taking the time to make this video guys.
I went on a test drive in a shockworks custom tuned set up I have never felt anything like it
Same! I would have liked higher spring rates for my own car. But for my customer, it was the ultimate road car setup. They dont look super flashy or anything on the outside but its the tech and RnD thats inside them is where the money is!
I do have some really weird old HKS/Kawasaki s13 coilovers with inverted tube shocks that looked like they would be good but where terrible on the road if you ever want to run another random bunch again.
@@TURBOTRISTOnever hey.
Thank you guys for this test/review which is not only without any self interest but really objective, technical and really untainted results.
It seems "Made In Japan" is the best no matter the brand (Showa, Cusco, Buddy Club) or age (20 or over 30 years). I am sure KYB and Tokico would perform similarly. Safe Real value over time.
Mid range price may be a hit or miss.
Cheap is just good for stance, mild casual use and short term use.
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Glad you could see what we were trying to achieve thank you for watching mate
FYI, you are better using the full trace for Force vs Velocity rather than peak values as you are in the video. This shows you the hysteresis (lag is the term the operator is using) a lot more clearly and while you can see this in the Force Displacement curves shown, really you want to use both as they allow you to look at different things (hysteresis on FV, friction in FD for example). Peaks are OK if you are trying to hide a poor dampers performance from customers(as a lot of manufacturers do) but the full trace is much more informative, especially for comparisons like this. The Maxspeedingrods dampers are both plain orifice dampers, theres no shim stack operating hence the damping is increasing with a characteristic V^2 curve (i.e. as velocity increases, damping increases with a squared law). The AMR damper is definately topping out in one direction hence the force spike at the end of stroke in one direction (you can hear that even without seeing the force spike in the graph). I work for the damper dyno manufacturers in the UK and have used Dynosoft2000/MX extensively and designed many high end dampers ;).
@@JunglistMogwaii it’s clear you know a lot about dampers
You have answered a massive question for a lot if civic drivers that have always wanted the best bang for buck when it came to ebay coilovers. You legend!💪💪🚗🚗
Thanks brother
Yellow Bils or konis are best bang for buck if changing springs, OEM decent if stock. Shockworks are nice af.
What's the massive question.
@@stevewilson8752 it's a massive question. It is that massive that I forgot what the question was because if you look carefully I wrote it 3 years ago buddy
I'm not sure I follow how the Bilstein was rated lower than the Cusco when at 16:29 Chris said that, while both were a bit low on gas, the Cusco still didn't quite have the response that the Bilstein had.
Not sure how a rear evo shock can even be compared civic front shocks. Entirely different valving, entirely different set of expectations.
@@TonicofSonic Well, you might have a point but I'd like to assume (dangerous, I know) that either he also knows this or that he's looking at general specs that apply, well, in general, and that either way, he knows what he's talking about.
I'm not a honda guy, but I am a car guy. Great info! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Just bought myself a 94' Civic sedan dirt cheap and I'm fn pumped to learn all about these awesome little machines! 😁
good luck my brother! all the best , now get all your buddies to like and comment
@@TURBOTRISTO haha thanks bro I'll try 🤙
Time to revisit. Add KONI Yellow and the latest MaxPeeDingRods offering. I hear they "upgraded" them again. Maybe throw in some budget dual-tube style, and the latest bargain monotube.
Glad this vid shows my usual "Throw some yellow bils on it" for street cars, and "Don't you dare replace honda OEM shocks unless they are blown or bouncing" advice is sound.
there is a video planed , just gotta find the time
Love to see koni orange and yellow performance!
Bro the touges about to get absolutely munched by these weapon's HAHAHA, in all seriousness tho these would help big time when it comes to track and mountain passes, my fenders are carving new tread into my tyres every time I go around a corner. They're buggered
Hope so for your sake
@@TURBOTRISTO hahah double wishbones only half the story when Ur stockiest are clapped
Hey Tristan, i already got these coilovers, i give my ticket to this guy, I hope he gets it.
@@mrgngstr awh no way, thanks legend. Hope your going hard out there bro :))
Forgot the part where you gotta explain why you need em, well it's the same as everyone else tbh I run mountains in my civic and just need better handling, I got Hella scrub cause I'm running some thick federals and the dying shocks in her are just trash. No other reasons tbh, in reality if I save for a few weeks I could get em but hahah
I’m running the max speed black and red coilovers on my lowered Camry and I must say they perform pretty good for the price I can’t beat it. Had 2 blown shocks so anything helps. Thanks for the video man!!!! Keep them coming
cheers man please subscribe if you havent already
im about to be ordering a set for my 6th gen camry
If you see this how are they doing currently,?
Have you ever owned proper coilovers?
I'm 17 and jusy got my p's with my 97 civic ek so a set of coilovers would be awesome to win also thanks for the video really informative
Good luck man
@@TURBOTRISTO thanks man
@@AliMack1 your car would definitely benefit from these coilovers
@@AliMack1 yooo these would be sick assss
@@thetrueth4041 they really would
id like to see more shocks tested/reviewed like this. maxpeeding rods has new shocks out now and id like to see how they look on the dyno. and with all the different coilovers out on the market these days i think this would make for a good video to make every week for a few of them if you can get your hands on more coilovers.
I will be doing more in the future i have road tested the new mxrs and they are really good interested to see the dyno results, I have my hands on all sorts of suspension daily, new video coming out soon i have the only set of KONI col overs in the country to suit civic
@@TURBOTRISTO Thanks man. me and the rest of your viewers really appreciate what youre doing here man. im subbung right now!
Thanks for producing this content and having Chris walk us through the results. I have seen some say that Bilsteins with lowered gas pressure are a really solid setup. I think they may be onto something as Bilsteins on the street can be a bit harsh and have quite a bit of feedback in comparison to a Koni yellow which does ramp up hard, but overall is more comfortable until it's not.
That’s is all true I have switched my coil overs out to koni now haven’t driven on them yet but I am excited
Honda still uses Showa (Hitachi Astemo bought them), KYB, and even ZF for dampers, these days. Showa has made some really good dampers from civics to miatas, over the years. Thanks for the quality, humble content!
Thanks for watching man I will do more soon
To add to this, I've seen a few Honda models fitted with Sachs shocks from factory. Not sure if they still use those as the models I'm referring to are 5-10 years old.
awesome good to know sachs make good stuff
Soooo much valuable information and knowledge in this video! As a suspension nerd, this is just awesome.
Chris from shockworks is a guru
Just realised this is the correct video to share and comment on
Local guy just building a k series EG with a modern twist
Having these coil overs would help reduce the costs to get it up and running on the road!
EG is currently stripped bare and getting all rust removed!
good luck brother you will need around 100 comments on this post to win , Ill start you off with your first comment get your mates to help you
nice cock bro
bump - this man's love for cars is unprecedented
he's also pretty handsome
can also confirm he's already spent way too much on his EG civic :~)
I've seen about a dozen personal accounts, from members in a car forum I'm on, of maxspeedingrods breaking at the welds. Most commonly if there is a link bar bracket welded it breaks off. A couple said the base broke on rears where a skinny arm is welded. One person said the top cap split. Saving money isn't worth wrecking possibly dieing, get at least one step above!
I do agree however since this test mxr have really improved we use their T6 shocks in our endurance race car hit every ripple strip and get air borne and have had zero issues, this test was done on the T3 & T4 version, they are up to T7 I have shock dynoed them and they graph as good if not better than a lot of the expensive brands in this video
Solid video - thanks heaps for the comparison.
I've got my 10+ year old standard setup on my XR5T it hasn't failed but I feel a set of these will bring some of that enjoyment that faded a while back!
Go for it man
Awesome content. Definitely would stop all the arguments on the Honda forums and other ones too. Explanation is excellent from Chris and Shock Works. I have been using the old style maxspeedingrods on a budget track car EK like yourself Tristan but after seeing this I think I might have upgrade to the new style. Even if I don't win I will definitely use the discount code. P.S. Bro, you need to bust more myths.
Thanks for the support brother, after what I learnt I wish I could afford shock works they are incredible but as I have said many times maxpeedingrods seem to be working fine for me at my cars level, I would love to bust more myths any suggestions
@@TURBOTRISTO well, like you I've into cars for a while, I am a mechanic by trade... recently, I've noticed a lot of trolling behavior on the recent topic of Stock brakes are fine and bigger brake kits don't make better lap times... test with a control tyre of course, do a 3 or 4 part series on oem pads vs aftermarket, oem brake lines vs braided(use a control brake fluid), then move to oem single piston caliper vs aftermarket multi-piston setups...maybe talk about brake master cylinder upgrades...
I had KYB GR2s on Eibach Ground Control coils. I loved that setup. Lifetime warranty on the shocks to.
That’s fantastic
I just heard of "MaXpeedingrods" only a few days ago in 2023, so I'm waaaay behind this "debate" -- I remember there was a time when people used to put down the BC / Megan and other Taiwanese coilovers, but they aren't the bottom of the barrel any more with these $200-300 "eBay" coilovers, I guess... Do they even make any money off those at that price?? I'm glad I caught this video to see a variety of these to a standardized professional-grade test. Weird that AMR had some issues -- I run those w/Hyperco springs on my AW11 MR2. I have KW V3s on my other track MR2 Spyder. I've run Koni Yellows / Eibach in other street/autox cars... And on the other end of the spectrum, today I just ordered the Maxpeedingrods for my daily driver Lincoln Navigator for $300 shipped lol: I have no expectations at the price point, but they'll certainly be an improvement over the collapsed air suspension!
For the price you can’t go wrong but if you pay more you can get better suspension it’s a real common sense decision people that see a $300 coilover and complain that it isn’t as good as a $1500 set- those people need to check themselves, thank you for watching, I have done heaps of reviews and track testing of these, they hold up and do the job
"for the price"
So you are not aware of any dangerous issues with these things?
Because from my personal experience and that of people I know
I would dare to bet these things have killed people and will continue to be a lethal danger on the road.
Also there are better options for the same price. I'm
The used Cusco must have had a good life. I'm going to check the market.
@@bobabreath5097 good plan
I’m 17 as well & i own a 1998 honda civic lxi. Have always wanted coil overs for the ride height and performance but can’t afford them as i’m still in school. I would be really stoked to win one of the two. It would make my civic handle and look 100% times better! 🔥 Cheers
All the best bro good luck get your friends to like and comment on your comment and you have a chance to win, my civic is a 1998 also !! But mine is a gli
Yoo your civic goes hard bruva 🏎
@honda civic good luck the civic would be mean with this
Your civic is one of the cleanest i have seen for a youngin would be really good if you get a set of these coils💯
@@TURBOTRISTO Yea bro 98’s are the go! 😂
So I've been considering these maxspeed coilovers for my step sons 95 eclipse. I think we are going to buy some and then later when he starts working upgrade to a nicer set. They have to be better than the stock blown out suspension that's currently in it. Thanks for the video
100% they are man they are perfectly good for anything you need just not for lemans or the Indy 500 but for everything else they are fine
@@TURBOTRISTO Max Pee Ding Rods are for LeMons not LeMans.
Beautifully done, I have used maxpeeding coilovers on my ED and EG civics before, I am currently using them on my EF8 as well and I have an EK4 waiting for coilovers and I would love to win a set of these🤞
Awesome good luck mate
I got a Toyota 86, I started by replacing the OEM suspension with the BC RACING BR kit, it was a small upgrade but still I was disappointed, then I bought the CUSCO Zero 3R kit, now we are talking about a product that actually work, one word capacity.
That’s good to hear you love your Cusco mate
@@TURBOTRISTO It was almost 3X the price to get the CUSCO build to specs, but the difference is night and day so it is worth it. I also bought their clutch pack limited slip differential, incredible product, it's basically a new car, supercar :P This video is very good, maybe the best video on damping available on TH-cam, thank you!
wow that is a great compliment thank you
New coils would really level up my CXI ive been dailying for the past 3 months, cheers for the good content mate! Good luck to all the boys entering the giveaway!
Good luck to you my man
Good luck man! You got this
Great video thanks alot for going to the effort to teach us all about how shocks work and which ones are good and how the cheap ones are not as bad as many people think.
You are welcome bro
I want MaxSpeed Coilovers because they match my personality: slow, behind the competition and not sure if they will last very long.
*Edit: If I were to win. I would like the new anodised version due to dyno results.*
Not sure if srs 🤣
@@catherinedao3721 DEAD SERIOUS.
I think Maxspeeds > you tho
@@lisatruong4684 That's a fair call. At least they can stay long and hard.
No comment.
Woo Giveaway~!
Keep up the vids!
Thanks man
Give this guy the coils!
Good luck mate
Love it
Yeeeeeeer
There is a reason Chris did some custom valving in my set of Shockworks dampers!
Yeah he is awesome I can’t wait to get some
it would be nice to see another comparison for the other brands, as there is a lot on the market. HSD, Tein, HKS, YellowSpeed, Maister R and bunch of other ones. Would be really nice to see how they all compare! Great video!
@@slightlyinsaneraf I do plan on it someday depends what brands I can get a hold of
Really awesome video man. This is great info. Given the cost of MaXpeedingRods, seems it would make sense to replace your blown OEM struts with a set. Obviously if you can afford the nicer suspension, you'll get what you pay for or something like it.
Exactly man 100% correct not everybody gets it
hey i follow you on tiktok
@@michaelcooper2762 Hey thanks! I'm gonna have full V10 Impreza and Rotaru vids on here too. 😁
@@TURBOTRISTO
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@TURBOTRISTO I did. I got it fine. My right front oem was leaking badly I went max speed rods fro all 4 front and back and they seem great for everyday driving. I am a happy customer and didnt break my budget on a 3,400 car one deer away from being totaled.
Yeah the old wireless Coilovers 😂
Good shit fellas giving back ❤️
Good luck fellas ❤️
Bluetooth coilovers 😜
Dude, this was awesome info! Now I understand the difference between a good shock and a crappy one. HOWEVER!!!! You can't really perform a test like this using the method u applied. You need to test at least 2 of each brand. ie. The American model was clearly a factory defect, and IMO because of the technology (pressure, fluids, gas), it's pretty likely that there were more that underperformed or perhaps overperformed their brand just by chance. That's why you need at least 2 tests for each brand. The real lesson learned here is, you can buy good shocks and still get a bad ones and never know, sans the dissatisfaction. Looks like Quality Control is the right way to shop them out! Again, the information was fantastic! you got my sub!
thanks boss beek! yes I agree, at the time i made this video as you can tell the camera quality is low and the lights are flickering, but all that aside I borrowed all those sets from people and luckily for me Chris from shockworksis is local and had time to do the comparison, I would love nothing more than to test 15 different brands and three sets of each all for the same car , you are 100% correct some of those coilovers were old some where new some were from crashed cars , but the info and message was all the same, when shocks leak they leak regardless of age, the factory civic shock were nearly 30 years old with over 300,000kms on them and still performed like new , there will be more videos like this coming soon
Just bought my first civic as a project car, some new coils would be hectic as
Well done man
It's a gr8 video! It's interesting to see the progressive dyno on the Maxspeed coilovers; usually, it's often found in the gravel rally dampers but it's for sure not as good as a real progressive rally damper like Reiger or FOX etc.
Rally is something I need to try for sure thanks for watching
As a joke, my buddy got me some ebay coilovers for my daily driver.. I actually put them on to slam it (lol),, and will say they are definitely functional to a degree. They dont exactly soak up your standard pothole, but they are stiff, and even came with adjustable damper and camber. Certainly suitable for autocross, or anything entry level
@@LetsGoECU1 no shocks slammed will soak up a pothole mate you need shock travel
Great timing! My stock shocks are developing some nasty knocking noises so a set of cheap coilys would be a great option!
Good timing best of luck
Would love these coils on my 1990 Civic! It’s currently a monster truck! 😅
EDIT: If I win pls can I get the new max speeding ones
Good luck bro low is the go
Goodluck!! You deserve it
🚀🚀🚀
@@TURBOTRISTO thank you! This is the way !
@@zephaniahjoy777 thanks Zeph!!
Im in utah but my daughter is in Melbourne right now as a missionary. She says the people there are super nice.
We are the best man!
The Bilsten looked very good at the start and he seemed very happy when the result graph got displayed 13:30. How come it ended up 5th?
Others ended up in better standing
Yes. The Bilstein graphs looked good comparatively, particularly in initial anti roll which is important for a track car.
Appreciate the content. Made the decision a bit easier. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
Too easy mate thanks for watching
Confused... Are you saying Shockworks came second but Cusco came first because more linear and better if you hit a pot hole? Which is best here for regular street car?
No mate opposite of that Cusco were down the list shockworks came out at number 1
Very informative video buddy! Might have to make an inquiry to see if they could possibly help me out. Cheers! D16 turbo 1984 Honda city might see the light of day soon. P.S, I’m afraid of heights, so must lower my car 😂
You will be pleased to know I am helping with the restoration of two Honda city turbos one will be modded one will be mint original and we have 2x motocompos to go in them
Actually looking into rebuilding the factory turbo of one now, where are you located
@@TURBOTRISTO Brissy
@@TURBOTRISTO that is so good to hear man. It’s my first car that I’ve held onto since forever lol. Suspension has always been a sticking point with me. You don’t happen to know these two guys in Sydney do you?
@@notimportant8120 what two guys
Great content guys and super informative. I’m a very amateur former club-level racer here in NSW who achieved reasonable results using the Tein Superstreets with the spring rates and valving as per Fulcrum’s setup. Oh-in a GDB WRX STI. The rear struts started leaking after about 5000km but I believe it may have been extended time between drives may have buggered the seals. I’ve had both rears rebuilt and the front left is leaking and knocking too. Have you dealt with these struts before as I’m keen to hear your opinion.
I’m thinking seriously about Shockworx setup for my FG GS. Good to see they performed well, though I’m also considering Bilsteins on Kings low as it’s not a track car.
Great content and I’m subbed.👍
I would get shockworks over tein any day heck I’d get bc over tein, but shockworks are amazing all the top time attack cars run them, plus they can be valved for street also
@@TURBOTRISTO whats wrong with tein? Just bought ones for my car, toyota chaser jzx100
@@TURBOTRISTO what’s up with the teins?
@@daskamu I’ve had both rear dampers rebuilt and the front left needs rebuilding as well. These are Tein Super Streets with less than 15,000 km on them.
I’ve found the Teins are great while they are working, in so far as they are OEM factory quiet, comfortable for the daily drive and still capable on the track for a bit of club-level shenanigans. The damping/spring rates are far from optimal for track but I’ve put down some respectable/competitive lap times on the Teins and I can “glide” over ripple strips that upset stiffer setups.
The low-km rebuilds are the biggest problem with mine, but I’m probably contributing by leaving the car for weeks at a time.
@@TURBOTRISTO most of the serious guys and gals in the NSW combined clubs Supersprint series I used to run in seem to be running MCA although I’ve seen some very quick cars on KWs, HSDs (surprisingly good from my observations) and BC racing. If/when I get the time to get back into it, I’ll be tossing up between MCA and Shockworks for a more track-focused setup for my long-suffering bugeye Subie.
Just wrote off my Honda jazz (was rear ended ,can give proof) and was just looking into getting a 98 white civic sedan ! Really want a build it as it would be my second car and I feel like I can challenge myself ! Would really love some coil overs to kick them off !!!!
well I hope you win mate all the best get all your friends to like your comment and reply to your comment
Thank you for this, it makes the day I can afford these easier, thank you for the info!!
Competition for free suspension is now live
I’m desperate for some ebay coils for my ‘99 EK sedan over in Perth 🤣🤣🤣 I’m so broke, and it’s so tall I may as well be driving my old CRV
Best of luck brother
Hahah we in the same boat 😉
Best off luck bro ( ^ω^ )
You take that back cr-v's are awesome
Good luck bro!
been a while my YT brotha ! just got the old ladys MXR replacements in and am trying to hunt down you adjustment video so I dont bottom them out like last time lol , hope alls well my friend !
There is a recent video I did on a white eg, you can check out on the adjustment
@@TURBOTRISTO thank you sir , information received and applied
My ek civic hatch needs some coilovers she a bit bounce around corners you know
Do you like baileys
@@TURBOTRISTO you wanna marry me
@@TURBOTRISTO I got the funk
😂😂
Would love to win a set for my '97 EK mate! Although, I am in the Philippines, so maybe I'm out in terms of selection. Either way great videos as always. 🤘🏻
You can still win them but I need to see how much shipping will cost, if you get the most likes and comments then I will have to send them to you
I also have a 97! Best of luck to you man!
Where did you get that Multimatic dyno lol? More response doesn't always mean better. That's how you get really bad nibble. Other than looking at the curve to see if the damper is functioning as intended, you can't tell whether it's a good damper or not. So much depends on vehicle config and tuning targets. It looks like you smacked the base valve or floating piston on the AMR. As it travels from full rebound on the left to full compression on the right, the forces jump at the exact same spot and then it resumes opperation as normal. Probably will go away if you reduce the travel. But the tuner definitely knows what he's doing. His Shockworks dyno curve was beautifully shaped! Probably smooth and glides on smooth road, but kicks in the rebound control agressively, but progressively.
I’m no expert but Chris is he was litterally born into shocks and has spent his life mastering them, what ever he says I just smile nod and take as gospel
Hope I could win the new design for my Civic and test them on track. I'm in Melbourne so you could help me fit it up!
Sounds good to me mate just gotta get lots of likes and comments
The maximum pee rods are not all that bad for the price. I ran a set for a few months on my Bugeye WRX while I was deciding what I actually wanted to go with. They were actually surprisingly OK. If you just need something quick because your OEM ones took a poop they will serve you just fine. You can even get a bit sporty on them as well lol.
They are 3 times better now
@@TURBOTRISTO would love to see updated results for them ;)
latest video with the thumbnail "runs so smooth" has updated dyno sheets
@@TURBOTRISTO yeah I used the COT6 coilovers and they were super easy to adjust and install. If I was playing to do some sporty driving ("doing turbos" is what my girlfriend calls it lol) I would just adjust the knobs to stiffen them up and for everyday driving I kept them somewhere in the middle of the adjustment range. They actually looked pretty good as well, the blue and black looked really good with my blue brake calipers and gunmetal gray rims. They are definitely an upgrade from the OEM suspension that came on the 2nd gen wrx's. I eventually upgraded to a set of Tein coilovers and the only real difference was that the adjustment range was more dramatic and they felt less bouncy and at their softer settings, but honestly there wasn't actually a huge difference in the overall performance.
thats awesome news man
Hi. My first car a DelSol (B20/B16 frankenstein). And i think the stock coilover is quite weak for it. Once in my life i won a 0.5 l cola, so.....😈 Good luck and have fun for all. Greetings from Hungary.
Good luck my man
Lololol
I would love to win a set of the newer version of the coilovers for my 2000 ek hatch. The only thing I've ever won in my life was a Mulan cap from Video Ezy in 1999 hahahaha. It was a colouring in competition lol.
Nice bro haha best of luck on the coil over competition this one is easy if you follow the rules
Good luck!! I hope you win some new coilovers!!
@@megsiimesi Would make my civic look awesome. Wouldn't it?
@@TURBOTRISTO Thanks Mate. Enjoying your videos nevertheless :D
@@stonebrother2921 it really would!! :D
Would maxspeed coilovers be able to handle canyon and mountain drives consistently?
Depends on what you mean by consistently, as long as the roads aren’t to bumpy then there won’t be much heat in the oil or air causing cavitation
I have a 96 civic I really need some coil overs, I have upgraded to front and rear anti roll bars and polyurethane bushings, still have stock springs and struts. I just had it painted and have a video on here with it.
Best of luck my friend
I'd love some coilovers so my kswap handles like a go-kart. Great video
hope so man get all the family and friends to like your comment and reply to your comment, best of luck
Would these fit on an R34 sedan? I'm trying so hard to get parts and convert to manual. I tried getting R34 in Canada but they are out of stock. I'm not desperate, I just like watching creators whom have great content and are down to earth. Most Aussie's seem this way. I guess when almost everything can kill ya you need to have a more relaxed outlook on life, lol. I wish all the best of luck but to be honest I want the damn things. I also just got screwed by contractor whom dusted me and my garage build I sadly work in an unpowered oversized shed. Sigh.
Well man Canadians are just like aussies in my experience good chill people, I used to own an r32gtr and an R33gtr great cars these will not fit, however skyline coilovers are reasonably cheep if you join some skyline forums in australia you will find people to help you out ❤️🇦🇺
Haha, I just ordered AMR engineering coilovers for my e36. My friend has them on his ITR swapped hatch and I was super impressed. Too bad we can't get a good comparison. A long time ago I had some TEIN SS on my honda accord, probably the best coilovers I ever had.
Tein were the worst coil overs I’ve ever had
@@TURBOTRISTO I have some Flex Z on my accord and they are pretty poor IMO. BC isn't much better from my experience.
@@TURBOTRISTO I'm sure the Tein Coilovers weren't the worst, most likely it's the owner not using them properly.
@@TURBOTRISTO what was with the teins?
Need to lower and stiffin my ek civic
Every one does
You'll definitely gap the swift up scaly now bro
In the near future I'm thinking about getting a set of the max coilovers but after looking at this I'm kinda disappointed but my question is...how would the coilover behave with the spring on it and will the spring rate help in anyway? I'm on a tight budget 😅
I will be giving away a set of the coil overs soon
hey mate, just a comment re the flicker in the video. If you were unsure how to fix that/what is causing it.. it is the framerate of the camera not matching the stupid 50Hz frequency the Australian power grid uses. you won't notice it with a bulb or normal light, but with fluro's they turn on and off constantly at the 50 Hz frequency as the power grid. This means if you have the camera set to record at 30 FPS or 60 FPS it wont match the 50 Hz frequency of the fluro and cause the flicker. If you set the camera to 50 or 25 FPS that should fix the issues as it will be in sync with that 50 Hz. Sorry for the long message, just thought it may help with future content :) Loved the video great content!
Thanks Kevin I wish I had this comment 6 months ago brother you would be a life saver!!! My mrs only just fixed it last week for me haha I’m hopeless with tech haha thank you for helping me out, you are a legend
Old Gregg saying goodnight and keen to win some coilovers wish me luck guys 👌👌👌🤟🤟
Good luck buddy
Good luck old Gregg x
Thanks Sammy boii
Good luck my man, your civic needs them for sure lmao
What kinda driving are you going to be doing?
@@cliffableabel1326 Hill climbing up sealy lookout
Got some hardened bush's in it and coilovers is all I need
Best of luck man
Good luck
Thanks for being comprehensive
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I like the confidential information on the wall at 28mins. Might need to edit the video if they want to keep it
A name badge?
@@TURBOTRISTO the data sheets with sizes and part numbers of their shock
@@TURBOTRISTO at 26:30 CONFIDENTIAL! Chart to the left.
Hope I can win this giveaway, would mean a lot to me 🥺 can’t afford new ones and I have had a life threatening accident from faulty suspension failing and sending me into a guard at high speed. Would love to put some max peeds in my turbo civic much similar to turbo tristans! Located nsw! Unfortunately 🥺
Like for +69 HP
Good luck!
That’s not unfortunate you can still win them mate just get the most likes and replys and you win
Thanks man, sorry this is my acc it wouldn’t let me post the comment on this acc, was very lucky to be alive. Never trust cheap suspension, I do hope the people realise this would be a great thing for me and my build. I’m very dedicated to my Honda Civic 🥺
Good luck Bro! Sorry to hear about that :( at least your still here that’s the main thing.
Yep. Max speeding rods can take a hike. It would have been good if you could have tested new.. but seeing OEM hold up well after 300,000km and out perform new max speeding rods… re affirms I’ll. To buy them. I will check out shockworks to see if I can afford them for my two CELICA’s. ST-184R and 2ZZ-GE
Man they are not expensive for shockworks and they are truely the best coilovers on the market hands down they out perform bilstein and mca
It's kinda crazy how maxpeeding rods has the amount of settings for price imo
It really is
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Is this allowed?
Would be awesome if you sent me some
Follow the rules they could be yours
Im feeling a bit low today ...this video just sprung me back into feeling good 👌
@@scoobysean555 that’s excellent mate
Hi my name's Michael and I already use maxpeeding coilovers (original ones) in my hillclimb b18 eg hatch to beat Porsche GT3's , Elfin v8s and other high end purpose built race cars 😅 their confused sad faces make it all worth while 😅
That’s great news
Roses are red
Our ek is blue
I need new suspensions
because I'm on my menstruation
What the actual...
Hahaha winner
@@TURBOTRISTO Hahahha fkn oath
@@DAOTrademark What's wrong mate :)
@@lisatruong4684 That's a bit ummm questionable.
Great video! And the explanations provided are awesome… cheers!
Also i think these shock should have done at full stiff, to avoid running mostly on the bypass
THANKS FERNANDO! I LET THE EXPERT TELL ME HOW HE TESTS COILOVERS , BUT MAYBE NEXT VIDEO :)
*ADD ON TO MY ORIGINAL COMMENT BECAUSE REPLIES MAXED OUT*
*I REALLY NEED THESE CAUSE I'M ON MISMATCH SPRINGS AHAHAHAHA, MY LEFT IS LEANING LOWER THAN MY RIGHT SIDE*
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@@DAOTrademark bro it glitched
Thanks guys. Better to get Bilstein B8 Performance Plus with lowering springs then vs getting these cheap coilovers on my 2023 GR86
thanks for watching
Wow this is super interesting I wonder how other brands like truhart, rev9, tein, fortune auto, Meagan racing, and function and form all stack up against the stock. I've seen so many ppl advocating for the maxprods I'm glad I never bought convinced by their self justifications
Great point!, i still advocate for mxr purley based on the pricing, they arent bad, they certainlky arent good, but they arent bad that for sure they did better or close to some more expensive coilover kits
I'm looking to upgrade my OEM shocks on my 2006 Acura RSX. Unfortunately Cusco's specification sheet doesn't have the DC5 compatibility. I'm looking for a premium comfort shock for daily driving. What is your recommendation? Should I write an inquiry for the Shockworks, or look into more generic brands such as BC or Tein? I'd appreciate any input, I am very new to any type mechanical modding let alone car scene thank you.
if you are only wanting to upgrade the shocks with out lowering the car I would recommend some KYB SR's for the ultimate i would recommend some neo max or shockworks then something more generic i would say BC or Tein is ok but may be slightly harsh
@@TURBOTRISTO I appreciate the swift response. Im not particularly interested in lowering the vehicle. Overall comfort is priority, I’ll look into KYB and Neo Max. I haven’t heard of them before. Shockworks look amazing, but may be overkill for my application. Thanks again
I run 30mm lowered springs and kyb sr shocks in my mrs accord euro daily driver it’s great still feels oem but it’s lighter and handles better and is more stable
Were any rebuildable? If so, tips and settings like type of oil and valving would be great! Thanks for video.
@@pimphand1982 hey man heaps of them are rebuildable, shock builders keep their valving and other settings a huge secret it’s really the one thing that makes them different
I wonder about the newer BC Racing stuff and the external reservoir ones. That's what I've got, dare I say they've been great. They sell for almost $2k USD. They're on my road course car.
I wonder what it costs to ship them to you lol.
I wonder how the "Rev9 Hyper street II" coilover I just got would fare on the test? If I went by price they'd definitely be in the top 3
Ok nice I haven’t seen any one running these in australia, I wilould have to get a set to test
Wish u could have tested MCA and Tein, even Nismo. Got 3 teins if u want them after my son drifted into a concrete bridge gutter
If you are in Melbourne I could use one for sure
Im in the process of buying coil overs .This video was great .Thank you
You are welcome man
Notifications for Tristan must have been going offf last night 😂😂😂
Big time bro
You ain't wrong.
Running AMR and they seems working well for me.
That’s awesome mate
@@TURBOTRISTO shoot an email to Andy at AMR, I am pretty sure he will look after the issue with the tested dampers.
Very Interesting!! So neat to see WHY cheap eBay coilovers suck!
I think so too!
There are 2 versions of BC, the basic one BC V1 with 44mm piston (the one you test) and a slightly more advance model BC BR with 46mm piston. Do you think a bigger piston and body can improve the performance significantly?
(Currently I want to change my coil overs, the price between BC BR and BC V1 is not too big, around USD$150)
@@illson12345 since this video there have been several updates to almost all brands mxr have revised their design 5 more times and are as good as the bc tested and bc have improved aswell, I recommend buying the best most expensive suspension components you can afford
Hey just wanted to ask when you have the chance please if you think maxspeedrods are good for lowering the car to daily driving and will be good to ride on i dont want to drive and have my springs come off😅 I have a 05 acura tsx thank you!
Yeah they sure are they can handle the punishment. You just need to make sure they don’t have any leaks when they arrive the quality checks aren’t the best, if they leak send them back they will replace them no charge , if they come with no leaks they will last you years no problem
I'm not sure about today, but I know Honda owned Showa for the longest time. On dirt bikes it was really common to see Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki all running factory KYB and Showa on the Honda.
Yeah hats right! Thanks for watching
this guys using windows 7 in 2021 like a boss! I love windows 7
Hahaha
Thanks for doing this Tristan.
Not a worry man
one more week left to get your entires in guys get your free set of MaxpeedingRods coil overs by liking sharing and commenting on this video
awesome vid man! helped heaps, appreciate the effort that went into this!!💪
Thank you! Sorry I didn’t adjust the fps and it was flickering
@@TURBOTRISTO no worries man, still a quality vid