When Should I Start Learning Vibrato on the Violin??
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- When Should I Start Learning Vibrato on the Violin??
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Everyone wants to learn vibrato, but starting it at the wrong time can be detrimental to your learning and actually hinder you.
So...in this video I explain a few things one should know BEFORE attempting to learn vibrato on the violin :)
Here is the link to my vibrato video on how to do it: • HOW TO VIOLIN VIBRATO ...
Here is a video to help you if your violin shakes whilst playing/learning vibrato: • How To Stop Shaking Wh...
Just to recap the points in the video:
1. Do you know all the notes in 1st position? 1:53
2. Is your violin free of tape/dots/stickers/finger markers etc? 2:39
3. Is your left hand in the correct place? 3:19
4. Do you play with the correct part of your fingers (left hand)? 4:25
5. Do you have good intonation? 5:37
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"Basics take a year"
*My eyes have never widened more*
Braden Walker they do. I'm learning the basics, and it's going to take me 4 months to finish
Violias take forever. Lmao
Mark Captain violas?
Somehow I only started for half a year but I've gotten all the basics.
Except number four, I guess.
I got a Violin one week ago and was already trying vibrato with no success. Your videos are great for those of us who are trying to teach ourselves. Many thanks
FINALLY GOT VIBRATOOOO!!! literally me after watching this from about 4 years ago
Army!!!! U can do it!!! Make BTS proud of u!!! Fighting!!
Finally, after 6 years of self-teaching, I'm getting vibrato. The easiest way that I found which worked for me was to "open" my thumb and relaxing the grip on the neck of the violin. FINALLY!
D Heyes does self teaching mean you didn't refer any online tutorials?
Wow
i’ve played the violin for 7 years and i still cannot wtf maybe its the adhd im done
Prashant Batule no!! self teaching means there are no or you dont have a real teacher with you (beside you to teach you) cause you just teach your self with just a online videos
I would say look for a teacher to get good faster
I tried vibrato but it seems hard coz you have to bow in the same time..
Same
same
Try playing the piano it's so hard.
Yeah every time I try my bow shakes along with my fingers lol
Yeah, its kinda like playing two-handed piano. I guess thats what helped me here.
hello. this is to say thank you and not only for your videos. i am a 13 year old girl from Scotland who loves to play violin. i started off with really easy pieces and soon wanted to get a lot better as i felt i has holding back on my abilities. i looked up some easy modern songs to play and your channel popped up. i instantly fell in love. soon at my school my music instructor said there was a place for a violinist to play a solo in front of thousands of people at a show outside my town. i had to play 2 good pieces and so i went to you. i played hanging tree (which is now my favorite thing to play on violin) and he's a pirate (which i made a few mistakes on in the audition but no one needs to know that) i got the solo and am really happy. i couldn't have done it without you or your channel. my show is tomorrow. thank you xxx
Paws.n.fins Good luck on your performance Paws.n.fins! I'm sure you're going to be great! And thanks for sharing your story with the rest of us who are, ahem, NOT quite ready to perform in front of an audience. It gives us a bit of motivation. :-)
thank you. i did ok but it was really scary :)
Paws.n.fins Awesome! Congratulations!
thank you x
3 years ago can i get an update on your progress?
Number three just taught me that I've been holding my violin incorrectly for almost four years. I'm glad that I know now but I feel like I've wasted so much time being confused and trying to move on while only having a subpar understanding of some of the basics. This video is very helpful, thank you.
Alexa Krznaric me too
I have too for about the same amount of time. It didn't take me more than a. Weekend to retrain myself though, it also really helped to get a better setup for my size. My new chin rest is such a big difference, sometimes it's a different shoulder rest, or none. Once that's down you can concentrate on what's important.:)
6:12 is me lol. Great lesson. Alison I must say you are looking lovely in this video.
My daughter who is at Stage 2 is already eager to learn vibrato after watching your video her eyes widened and said, 'Theres no way I'm taking my tapes off' haha. Thank you for awaking her!
I just discovered this video and I hope it will help solve my problem. I started playing the violin in my teens and always had problems doing vibrato. After not touching the instrument for years I started practicing again when my daughter had her first lesson with my former violin teacher. I’m still not able to do the vibrato properly and I’m having problems helping my daughter acquire it. Anyway I see her taking benefits from your videos though she’s not able to understand English very well. But she’s taking a lot from the demonstrations. Thank you ☺️
I'm a beginner, and I bought a Stentor Graduate based on your recommendation of Stentor being a good beginner violin. I couldn't love this violin more. It has a wonderful sound, is easy to play, and it looks beautiful, including the case. Thank you for the advice!
What can I say, Alison? Thank you so much for all of your lessons! You are such an awesome person for giving up your time to make these videos. You are such a beautiful and talented artist! And I'm so happy and grateful that you've chosen to share your awesome knowledge and experience with the rest of us! I just really really love your work! Thank you!!
4.5 months into learning violin my teacher thinks it's a good idea for me to start attempting vibrato on whole and half notes. Going to take a while before it develops into sounding good. I've got the basics down and started 3rd position work.
These videos are amazing to keep yourself in check when learning the violin on your own.
Well I am not ready. Answer was "no" to all 5 questions.
One day!!
I just got to 5!!!
Thank you so muuuch! I actually started with the ‘how to do vibrato’ video and then I saw this, so I realised I am not prepared for vibrato yet. Thank you so much again for you video! You inspire me!
Although I'm new with the violin, I just wanted to watch the video, and I'm glad that I did. I realized that my left-hand position was wrong. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. 😊
This was very helpful. Thanks for sharing your input on this skill.
The best briefing teacher ever.
Thank you so much for posting this vid, it was super helpful and it cleared up a lot of questions I had
thank you so much for your lessons ! this lesson gave me my beginner goals. much love
I actually am starting vibrato way more earlier than I’m supposed to, but I’ve already nailed it😅
Yes, I liked my own comment :T
I wish you had someone like you when I was in orchestra 5 years ago. I was very discouraged because I couldn't find help to make myself better and thought I was brining the whole orchestra down. Hopefully I can get a violin again and start playing for myself, because you make wonderful videos that I wished I watched back then.
You are absolutely correct, and that’s how I want to learn vibrato! My first teacher played guitar, teaching violin. He taught me the “ jackhammer vibrato”, and another way by bending the string sideways like a guitar. I did this until someone at the Highland games said it sounded like rubbish, and showed me like you teach it. I’m back to the beginning again. Thank you!
this helped me alot. I haven't started the vibration cause I wanted to be done with the basics so I didn't know when I was done but now I do I have to work with the intonation and start to take off the dots on my violin thank you
I did it today! Yes after one year of violin I learned!
Thank you for this info! I always wondered how you know when you are ready.
Thank you! This is very useful and informative.
i tried doing vibrato using the same technique as you would do on a guitar (i.e. the movement is mainly from the knuckle rather than the wrist). And it sort of works...it sounds okay, but the whole violin will visibly bounce around all over the place. This seems wrong and also looks rather silly so I should probably quit messing around with that and wait until I am ready to do it properly! Thanks to this video I will have a better idea of when I have reached that point
Thanks a lot for this video! I've searched for hours for different vibrato videos, but this one might be the most important to me right now. I think all I need to work on is No. 5. There's no reason to rush that, so I'll try to master that a little better. I don't know how much this video is going to help me, but at least it gave me a little more patience, so thanks a lot for that!
I love your british accent, thank you for the advice, im 9 months violin student and i've just started with shift positions and vibrato
Very clear and easy to follow demonstrations. Realized I was practising the wrong vibrato!
“Take off the tapes”
I have the tapes because it is gold. No other reason.
do you have to memorize songs to play them? Because I found that that's the biggest disadvantage of looking at your fingers while playing
Back when I took violin course, I think it's past 2 years and I've changed teachers a few times.. if not mistaken I had one told me my fingers/hand aren't/isn't strong enough yet so it'll take time. Also I started learning just when I was about to stop because I was graduating and moving out soon lol. So I can't say I can do it well. When I started learning few years later I pretty much had to start from the basic (though not very beginner level).. anyway it's just me rambling haha. Thanks I love your videos and you're a stunning lady!
thank you for answering this question, I really wondered when a student should do it. so I put into practice every tips, when I play the violin
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I'm about to start playing the violin again I have to get used to playing it again but I remember a lot about how to hold the violin and bow my teacher was strict about posture hopefully her lessons have stayed with me.😊
I just started playing the violin a bit less than two weeks ago and I'm already almost there with the basics, I just need to work on perfecting my intonation and playing with the tips of my fingers and then I guess I'll be ready for vibrato
Very informative, thank you.
Glad to watch this video. I was holding the violin wrong. My wrist is too close and doesn't form a straight line towards my arm. I'm glad I'm only at Day19 selflearning so I guess it is still easy to correct it. Bunch of thanks! 😘❤
Another great video!
Hi Alison,
Thank you very much. I am not even close, so I'll continue working on the basics :)
Very knowledgeable. Thanks.
You look absolutely beautiful! Loving the background. It's simple and I can focus easily on you and what you're saying. 😬
Excellent explanation.
I’ve been playing for about 9 years, I can play all positions 1st to 12th, and yet I haven’t learned vibrato from any of my teachers yet!
But, even though I’ve been playing so long I feel that I don’t play as well that I can and this may be why my teacher has been holding back!
Thanks for this video! It really helped me track my progress :)
Thank you, Allison! I am just beginning to learn without a proper teacher and I was worried that if I didn't learn vibrato early on that it would be more difficult later, but it seems this isn't so. What a relief, because I am NOT good at it right now, and my bow starts skidding up and down the strings when I try :/ So I will cease and desist my vibrato-ing for the time being and just focus on good strong notes without screeching.
Yes thats a good idea. Even thought you said yes to the points, if you are still not ready the violin will shake a lot, and the bow will skid etc. That means you still need more time.
The techniques are very similar to lead guitar. I am finding with your videos learning the violin very easy. I am learning the finger placement at the moment. I started a month ago because my daughter wants to learn. I figure in a couple of months I will be able to help her. Violin is much easier than bag pipes to learn. Lol. Keep the videos coming and thank you.
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Thank you so much this helped so much I love your videos, besides you I'm self taught (a beginner and a very bad one) and I always come to watch your videos for help😄
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The Online Piano and Violin Tutor yes, no, yes, yes, and yes
Allison, I find your videos the best of all, and this lesson on vibrato has helped me greatly. I've been performing wrist exercises for about a year to develop a vibrato and am still not there, but I am patient because it's well worth the effort. I agree that vibrato should not be attempted until the basics such as intonation, bowing, etc., have been mastered. That was my mistake :(, I started too soon. Thanks for enlightening us. By the way I now use a metronome when practicing vibrato, it helps to develop consistency, at least I think so :).
I cringed so hard and had to turn the volume off when you did the example of bad intonation omg
i just kept watching lol cant ignore her!! shes my teacher!
Hi Alison - I have the five basics down, and then some, having played the violin for more than two years now, but sad to say I still can't do vibrato. I know what you mean when you said, "Vibrato does make a violin sound a lot nicer..." I also play the harmonica, and being able to bend notes and use vibrato really brings the harmonica to that advance level. But whenever I try vibrato on the violin, it's not the violin that shakes -- but it’s my bow hand that involuntarily shakes. Until I can learn vibrato correctly, I'll continue to play my violin as a fiddle using, when desired, pizzicato and staccato in lieu of vibrato. BTW: I can do a fake finger vibrato on the violin, but (as you know) that doesn't count. 😉 🎻 ♫
Cool
Really helped
I have bad sense of space and maybe will keep on the first frets forever. But I will mind the finger tips advice. Nice to hear, that I'm not expected to show vibrato after 7 months. I have started trying it, but I rarely integrate it into my improvisations over Jamey Abersold stuff.
YEAH, IM READY, LETS GO!
Thank you😃😃 I will learn these principles and then I will turn to vibrato
That's kind of reassuring to know that it might be too soon for me. Thanks! Wishing there was a download section for may be a kind of 'handout' notes. :)
Need to write down those 5 points. If anyone wants, they could copy-paste from here to wherever they take notes.
1. Do you know the notes in the first position (open strings are ok).
2. Can you play without the aid of dots/tapes/stickers?
3. Is your left hand free while playing, without the palm holding the violin (guess it has to do with how firm the violin sits in the neck without having to additionally support it with the left hand)
4. Are u playing with the tip of your fingers pressing on the strings? and
5. Do you have good intonation (are u hitting the right notes and not a B-sharp!?)?
Thanks Alison :)
cool, thanks
I have been learning for 7 months, and I understand all the first position, including the half steps. Only the 4th finger is still a bit hard for me, yet I still can locate it.
My wrist is on correct position also. My intonation is good. And I put nicely on my fingertips. I haven't stripped the marks on my fiddle, though still I can play 1st position with my eyes closed.
I have tried small experiments for doing wrist vibrato. It works on my 2nd and 3rd finger on any strings, though I still need more control on bowing. Cuz, I feel awkward when moving both hands independently for having any vibrato.
I need to strengthen my basic more, because when doing vibrato sometimes my fingertips slipped a bit higher, a fourth note I think.
Thanks
ive only been playign 3 months (yeah i know) but i was just watching some vibrato videos not with the intention to learn it but i started doing some inger vibrato exersices.
Really helpful :DD
I watched a lot of violin vibrato vids as a beginner and exactly nothing worked at first glance. I analyzed that my knuckles are just way too stiff and untrained... so i did stuff like holding one finger and moving the wrist away, whilst keeping the knuckle loose..... waving at myself in a backward move (arm stiff) which solved the problem with bowing and vibrato at the same time (movement became natural).... stuff you can do at work or anywhere (looks stupid)... 2 weeks non violin practice and i got a kind of decent vibrato. I am a fast learner but violin vibrato was a real challenge to trick/relax my fingers or better said my wrist. In my opinion, you shouldn´t start with vibrato... but doing yoga with your knuckles will make it 10 times easier once you wanna try it.
I've been playing for 6 months now. I've practiced every day for around 5 hours per week. I've mastered 1-4 but I recently got a new violin and didn't put stickers on it. My intonation needed some adjustment. It's net yet perfect but not bad. I use cleartune to assist with intonation.
I've given vibrato a go for a few minutes here and there. I even managed a half second of half decent sounding vibrato. The weird thing is that I find myself doing vibrato in the guitar and singing, but no where near yet on the violin.
eggaweb hell no bro doing vibrato obn guitar was so hard than violin cause the string was too thick but i learn vibrato on E and A open string within just a day but not good at G,D
Thank you
Wow, I have never really wanted to jump into vibrato because I always thought it was too early. As a violinist with around three years of experience I answered yes to all these, which was shocking to me, I guess I just need more confidence in my skills. Thanks to you I am now going to try and take the plunge into learning vibrato. Wish me luck!!!
+KraftyKat101 Go for it and let us know how you are getting on in a few months!
Same here! I was about to say the exact same thing..
Well.... for the tape one... It's still summer for me and idk if I'm allowed to take off the tape or not..... and I don't wanna get in trouble! But My fingers do go into the right place! (Tried it with eyes closed) that was my only problem and now! I'll try!
It's been 3 weeks since I started playing the violin. I can do the G major scale (first position w/4th finger) without the stickers as I dont need them. It's not so perfect though. But still, I can barely say yes to all of the five points. I can tell right away if my intonation is wrong, then adjust my finger to get the right note.
Thank your for your videos!! Also, you're so pretty!
oh i was thinking i couldnt learn it cause my bowing was "bouncy" but i can do all the things you listed.
Thank you omg literally i was trying to learn the vibrato and this lady said your wrist had to against the neck of the violin and i almost started crying
1.Yes,I do,sometimes I would need a refresher.
2.YES,I took them of after my 2nd year.
3.Yes,sometimes I don't care if I'm just having fun,but practice wise,yes.
4.Yes,but I have big hands so it's hard to do sometimes but yes.
5.Yes,I do,both my viola and violin.
So yes,I can do it.
thanks
I started learning vibrato around the end of my 3rd year (which was shaky) and really actually started being able to use it at the middle/end of my 4th year. But I think people who practice more than I did could probably do it by the 2nd/3rd.
You are awesome, i love your tutorials! Clear and understandable Speaking, and descriptive explaining! But in my opinion i find your voice a little bit to quietly in comparition when you play (then it is very loud), so i often need to toggle the volume up and down. Kind regards from Germany.
I know i dont have a really good intonation or tones when it comes to g string and d but i just love to play the E and A string with vibrato!!😅😅😂😂 but my (left) hand are not in a normal position cause my risk are IN at the violin
My viola still has tapes, but now I never see those tapes while playing. My tapes also have been fading away, yet I still can locate the correct tune. So, i think now it is the time to learn vibrato. 😸
The other questions are just: yes 😺
~should i migrate to violin... 😹
Hi Allison, I love your tutorials! The are so very helpful! I have looked for a video on dealing with humidity and I haven't seen any. Maybe you have done one and I missed it?
Well I live in a place in Canada where the temperature has been hanging around 40 (Celsius) with 90% humidity for weeks now (yes, "humid" has been the understatement of the summer!). My violin has been holding up with the Air Conditioning going but when I was playing at church yesterday I noticed the tone was WAY off. To make a long story short I tuned my violin to 430hz with my chromatic tuner and although the sound wasn't perfect it was much better. (I had to avoid playing pizzicato because it did not sound right but the sound when bowing improved)
I don't know if anyone else has had to deal with anything like this but I expect many have! Do yo have any other tips for dealing with humidity or other elements?
I am guessing retuning is an extreme measure??
Maybe some of your global online students have also dealt with this?
Thanks for all your work and dedication to helping us struggling aspiring musicians around the world improve our playing!
Naomi Cole Im afraid I have not done a video on this subject as it doesnt apply to me living in the UK. I dont like to do videos on subjects im unfamiliar with or haven't personally experienced as I wouldn't want to mis inform. I can only suggest you do a little Google search. Sorry.
Thank you so so much ^_^
Could make video solely explain about finger tip, and and violin position 1-4 at least. Thanks.. Love ya
Adam Aulia Im not sure i understand you, you simply place the finger on the strings - im not sure that warrants a video?
Good tips thank u,not to get off the subject but ur eyes r beautiful,very blue.
Thanks for your helpful videos! Can you post a violin tutorial for the popular song "Wagon Wheel"?
Sara Tufts I have never heard of it, but if it get lots of requests for it, i will do it.
At first, I completely failed at learning vibrato, but I got it on my first try until I realized one of my mistakes! My hand and arm weren't straight, and the bottom of my palm would touch the bottom of the fingerboard! I just had to correct my left hand posture, and it was never easier.
I'm 32 now huhu... I read notes and I can work on intonation, I can do vibrato but the thing I'm having hard time on my thumb...thanks though! will work on my right Vibrato
I am quite advanced with playing with sheet music, because I already play flute for 7 years. Do you also have lessons for someone who already knows how to read music?
Tho I’m starting Super early, you actually managed to teach me Mrs./Ms. Alysson, that’s how amazing you are! (Sorry if I spelled your name wrong😅)
Hi Alison,
Can you please do a video tutorial on how to play lux aeterna by Clint mansel.
It's my favourite song and would love to play it one day on my violin. I am only starting though. Thanks for the videos.
vaibhav thapliyal I cant do personal requests im afraid, but if i get more requests for this song, then i will.
So with regards to improving on the basics, is there anything in particular that you yould recommend, even from past videos or is it something that really just comes with experience and time playing? I only started learning in March and I haven't really gotten around to practicing since moving to university, (kind of because practicing for actual improvement is actually kind of a confidence breaker, but there's school too.)
I was watching this video and you mentioned a link where we could get the sheet for "Twinkle twinkle little star". Sorry, it never showed. Where Do I get the sheet? Btw, huge thank you for this video. I'm a newby, very excited!
Lourdes Dejesus At what point in the video did i say that? I may have forgotten to link something?
Helpful video, thank you. I've been playing on-and-off (mostly on) for about two years and I still really struggle to get a good, clear tone. Anyone have tips on what I'm doing wrong?
Josie Z I think this is one of these cases where someone would need to see you play, otherwise there is nothing to go on, or know whats happening.
1. Yes
2. No, the third and fourth finger stickers are still there :)
3. I think so*
4. Not sure, probably not*
5. Yes
*I've been thinking of recording myself to check these things and correct my technique as I'm not sure about them :)
I have been out of lessons for a year and I am doing a introduction lesson with a new teacher tomorrow, so I want to impress him by knowing vibrato
Im on my 2nd year of viola and im 12 now but I did violin when I was 9 or 10 for 1 year... I forgot everything then moved onto viola... I still need to work on intonation because I practice on my sister's violin and a viola on weekends. The violin is tinier than my viola so I need to get used to different sizes. Am I in the right time to do vibrato?
What if you answered yes to all 5 but have only been playing for 1 month? I do have a teacher and though she has praised my rapid development, she has also cautioned me not to move too fast.
Hi, I just started playing the Violin a couple of weeks (2-3) ago, and have been learning through self teaching..well of course by watching your wonderful violin tutorials, though I got my hands on a set of basic Suzuki book volume 1-5 ( but currently still in volume 1 of course). Watching violin covers (includes yours) really makes me want to get the hand of vibrato quickly :(, sounds so nice and really gives the piece a more some what "improving" sound...but I guess since I just started a month ago, I guess I shouldn't really yet start learning vibrato???.....and first learn all five volumes first???....
+Nex Kizhuna Hi Nex, please wait for vibrato. Even though your comment was made a while back, it is currently still too early (if you're still in book 1). You need to keep on the tapes for intonation, since you cannot do vibrato without intonation. If my teacher heard you trying to do vibrato with not very good intonation, she would stop you very quickly haha.
Also, please be careful when learning vibrato! If you do it incorrectly, it is extremely difficult to correct it.
I'm playing violin since 2006 but I don't have class since 2008, so I've never learned how to do vibrato. I feel like a loser... playing for almost a decade and not be able to do vibrato. I will try with your tutorial.
Alice Cardoso same that's how I am rn
Hello i have been playing violin fo almost 7 months and I don't know if I should learn viberato now or later by the way nice video
Maria Achim This video will tell you the answer :)
I've been self taught for about a few months and have those ticks, am i learning a bit too quick? and just learn the basics for a few more months before trying vibrato