Why Good or Bad Conductors Make a WORLD of Difference

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  • @cinemaburn-realtalk
    @cinemaburn-realtalk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1805

    I'm an electrical engineer specialized in telecommunications. I was super happy to see a video about why good and bad conductors make a difference. I wasn't expecting this. Still enjoyed it 9/10

    • @adelinavasak2734
      @adelinavasak2734 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      as a mechanical engineer, this comment made me cackle bc of your initial confusion, but curiosity to stay 😂😂
      Twoset is wonderful, I hope you check out more of their videos !!

    • @MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat
      @MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Lingling is the ultimate conductor, in both orchestras and electrical circuits.

    • @pakcikpingu3751
      @pakcikpingu3751 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      lol your comment made my day 😂

    • @MashiloMagongoa
      @MashiloMagongoa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bwahahaha😂😂🎉

    • @klaasbil8459
      @klaasbil8459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Having a good conductor is gold, wouldn't you agree?

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2317

    If you can conduct slowly, you can conduct quickly.

    • @abyssalchaos7254
      @abyssalchaos7254 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      😂

    • @kitrodriguez992
      @kitrodriguez992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

      This joke has gone too far. If you can laugh slowly, you can laugh quickly.

    • @Pogginplays
      @Pogginplays 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      If you can aMaZiNg slowly, you can aMaZiNg quickly!

    • @abyssalchaos7254
      @abyssalchaos7254 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      If you can "p" slowly, you can "p" quickly

    • @adamkozakiewicz6766
      @adamkozakiewicz6766 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      True, but you get hotter, quadratically.

  • @timsamong
    @timsamong 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1749

    This gives a really 2020-2021 TwoSetViolin vibe. I love these quality videos that delve into classical music, they're so entertaining and educational.

    • @yayalu8650
      @yayalu8650 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      The reason why I clicked even tho it’s been so long since I’ve watched a twoset vid, this looked promising

    • @rachelt727
      @rachelt727 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes! I love all the classical music videos!

    • @samaritan29
      @samaritan29 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      so how does that differ from 2022/2023-2024 "vibes"

    • @norobuxscamplzplzrobux5293
      @norobuxscamplzplzrobux5293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me as well!

    • @timsamong
      @timsamong 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@samaritan29 It's rare to see them take out their violins and do a challenge, nowadays, it's mostly reacting and some other things unrelated at times.

  • @xpreame3406
    @xpreame3406 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +971

    I felt very safe is my new compliment for when someone does a good job

    • @Peztastic
      @Peztastic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It does have many applications

    • @yujuti8416
      @yujuti8416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I teach private music lessons. I tell my students "you have to make your band director feel safe to put you on 1st chair"

    • @jendakrynicky5218
      @jendakrynicky5218 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      "I feel safe with you" is a fairly common (and strong) compliment from a (dancing) follower to a leader. :-)

  • @minikawildflower
    @minikawildflower 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +822

    Good point about the rehearsals too - I often think that a big part of the conductor's job is NOT what they do on the podium at the concert, it's how they prep the orchestra. A great conductor could still do a good job on minimal rehearsal, but the ideal situation is that they have rehearsal time to prep the orchestra for what they want on the day of.

    • @sergeirachmaninoff7805
      @sergeirachmaninoff7805 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      i mean yes and no. for amateur orchestras yes, but for professionals oftentimes these players have played these works dozens with different conductors. they’ve done the prep already over the course of their career. big professional orchestras often get only one rehearsal before these concerts, *maybe* two if they’re lucky and it’s a lot of unusual music. lots of these conductors- maybe with the exception of people like karajan who were with the same orchestra for decades- tweak small details in their one rehearsal but otherwise there’s very minimal actual prep. so they really do need to be super clear- there’s more leeway for orchestras who get multiple rehearsals and get to more time to understand/memorize specific gestures

    • @minikawildflower
      @minikawildflower 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      @@sergeirachmaninoff7805 I think for the pros, it’s not that the prep helps them learn the piece, but that it helps them to know what the conductor wants. So what might be unclear conducting on a cold viewing could be perfectly fine if you’ve had a rehearsal and gotten a feel for what they plan to do.

    • @Gisechan
      @Gisechan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@sergeirachmaninoff7805 Not even professional orchestras rehearse only once and on with the concert. Maybe for a Beethoven or Mozart symphony but no way you can work all the details and personal vision in only one rehearsal if what is in the program is a Mahler symphony or something like that.

    • @bobblade2681
      @bobblade2681 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I think of them as directors for a movie but an orchestra. They are there to impart a vision

    • @Trumpyfilip
      @Trumpyfilip 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah in the US is one rehearsal I heard, but in Europe the symphony gets at least 2 + dress rehearsal. Plus at least 1 for the first half. So they do get to dive a bit deeper into the piece. Speaking of big pro orchestras ofc, not some 1 reharsal shit gig ahah

  • @Loki-po8qz
    @Loki-po8qz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +276

    I was privileged enough to play in a concert with Rattle a few months ago, he came out of retirement to play with our youth orchestra. This man is unholy. During rehearsal he could pick out the tiniest details which even we didnt notice looking st our parts, and elevaate the sound to another level. He wasnt just conducting he was making music.

    • @stevieb6368
      @stevieb6368 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Sir Simon hasn't retired at all. He's currently Chief Conductor of the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra and guest Conductor of the Czech Philharmonic.

    • @AurinneA
      @AurinneA หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There's an old YT video of him doing a live rehearsal with a youth orchestra of In the Hall of the Mountain King in front of an audience and it's fascinating. It must have been so amazing for you to experience something like that yourself!

  • @alemutasa6189
    @alemutasa6189 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +492

    A good conductor is consistent in his/her moves and, most importantly, MAKES FACES. It's not always obvious to us musicians following a score what energy to give to the performance by hand gestures alone: a good angry or relaxed face make all the difference

    • @DameMitHermelin
      @DameMitHermelin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Somehow, I immediately thought of Carlos Kleiber... 🤭

    • @anathardayaldar
      @anathardayaldar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You mean like Ricardo Muti?

    • @lapissakura4653
      @lapissakura4653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      So, like a good sign language interpreter!

    • @tasmanianlord5269
      @tasmanianlord5269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@DameMitHermelin the best

    • @hansmahr8627
      @hansmahr8627 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Then again, there were some great conductors who were pretty unclear in their movements. Furtwängler was probably the most famous, the Berlin Phil musicians sometimes complained about his vague way of giving the beat. The story is that they convinced him to try out a more clear style but he absolutely hated how it sounded. Furtwängler liked the lack of clarity because he thought it made for a more organic and improvisational sound. Considering that he's one of the greatest conductors of all time, he was probably right. You can actually hear it on his recordings, the different sections of the orchestra often don't come in at exactly the same time. It's subtle but it does allow you to hear the different lines more clearly. Of course you can only do that with a world-class orchestra like the Berlin Phil, with a less distinguished orchestra the result would probably be absolute chaos.

  • @carolpoblete8228
    @carolpoblete8228 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +989

    Eddy has jumpstarted his conductor journey by messing-up his hair 😅

    • @cherylcogan3542
      @cherylcogan3542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Yeah, I was wondering why his hair was a mess. Thanks for your insight

    • @loonpond
      @loonpond 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Wild hair, don't care.

    • @Annie-i6q
      @Annie-i6q หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lmao

  • @soupchops
    @soupchops 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    For reference!
    0:54 Masato Usuki
    2:16 Leonard Bernstein
    3:17 Daniel Barenboim
    4:14 John Eliot Gardiner
    5:09 Christian Thielemann
    6:28 Simon Rattle
    7:18 Herbert Von Karajan
    8:26 Myung-Whun Chung
    9:31 Mikhail Pletnev
    10:50 Gianandrea Noseda
    11:37 Karl Bohm
    12:44 Seiji Ozawa

  • @apricity4290
    @apricity4290 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2206

    Copper is a good conductor

    • @The_miku_enjoyer
      @The_miku_enjoyer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hi

    • @rhonemeyer4277
      @rhonemeyer4277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Very true words

    • @jub8891
      @jub8891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      so is rubbing alcohol

    • @el-booboo9324
      @el-booboo9324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jub8891 Rubbing alcohol is not a good conductor of electricity and heat

    • @TheAyanMan
      @TheAyanMan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      :)

  • @selguerra
    @selguerra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +251

    There should be part two. We'd love to see more of you playing under different conductors and giving your on-point impressions.

    • @seunggillee9554
      @seunggillee9554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello

    • @nadianehope
      @nadianehope 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Currentzis should be in part 2

    • @selguerra
      @selguerra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And Dudamel.

    • @yannisgauler6519
      @yannisgauler6519 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And also definitely Abbado

    • @poorwotan
      @poorwotan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Furtwangler?

  • @Elevate-music1
    @Elevate-music1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2554

    For every like this gets I will practice for 1 hour
    …If I hold my instrument in my sleep does that count as practicing?

    • @jupalaja
      @jupalaja 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There you go @Elevate-music1, 40 Hours!!

    • @Paul-sv4pm
      @Paul-sv4pm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Cringe

    • @Elevate-music1
      @Elevate-music1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      but real 👍

    • @irenes8689
      @irenes8689 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Looks like you'll be practicing everyday for an hour 😊

    • @Elevate-music1
      @Elevate-music1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@irenes8689 thats what my channel is for 😅

  • @Lil-toomuchaboutLinguistics
    @Lil-toomuchaboutLinguistics 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +172

    I’ll just say: I found this channel April 2 years ago. They pulled me out of a tough spot and saved me from having to repeat the 10th grade. Now, I’m sitting here writing this comment only a few hours after I walked across the stage. I’ll never forget these videos. They are such treat to watch, and I’ve genuinely learned a lot. I wish you all the best, and please never lose this beautiful talent.

    • @anonymous891
      @anonymous891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Such a beautiful comment!! Thanks for writing this. This inspires me to move on with my own life too!! Let's hope we both meet one day and I get to say the same thing you said but this time about your comment. And remember if you can inspire slowly, you can inspire fastly😊 Gotta go practice now

    • @Swishyhead
      @Swishyhead 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Congrats on your graduation! 🤩 Whatever your future holds, I hope it makes you happy, and I hope you're proud of everything you've accomplished to get to this stage.

    • @bethhentges
      @bethhentges 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Congratulations 🎉

  • @xx3xx3
    @xx3xx3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    My dad once performed with Karajan when he was still in uni and he is still IMPRESSED.

    • @janefaceinthewind6260
      @janefaceinthewind6260 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's wonderful!! What precisely found he impressive? I need details please 🙏❤️

  • @zarakoda
    @zarakoda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    Jaw dropped at your 5 mil TH-cam symphony suggestion. If that can happen that'd be amazing!!!!!!

    • @toramenor
      @toramenor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Yes, I really want to see that too! A pretty ambitious task putting it all together... but if anyone can manage it, they can!

    • @MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat
      @MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes, gave me goosebumps about how they went from this niche little music channel to one of the most influential things that's happened to classical music in our time! All my musician friends, classical or not, watch and adore them!

    • @Summer_Lee
      @Summer_Lee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Would LOVE TO BE A PART OF IT!

    • @apriloster1089
      @apriloster1089 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! Clarinetist and conductor here and TOTALLY down for that!

  • @lingodelfo5415
    @lingodelfo5415 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    As someone who has never played in an orchestra, this video was very interesting, but I want MORE!!! More explanation what makes a conductor clear or not, what's some unique features conductors do or how they interpret pieces, and conductor comparisons with dofferences and similarities and maybe some kinds of groups? Like, do Russian conductors do something American ones don't etc

    • @NZC_Meow
      @NZC_Meow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Samee

    • @Halberds6
      @Halberds6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'll try to give you some info. A good conductor makes clear movements and will usually be on the beat. They can use their spare hand (the one not holding the baton) to contro the orchestra's volume.

    • @darkgalaxy5548
      @darkgalaxy5548 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The best thing about Russian conductors is that many of them speak no English, so they can't bore you to death with their "brilliant" insights into the music.

    • @qwmx
      @qwmx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are commenting things with substance and asking the real questions. Take my like.

    • @yeeaahhzz
      @yeeaahhzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "ERRY BODY DIFFERENT" is your answer.

  • @ACaraM
    @ACaraM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

    Time to make a video on semiconductors next.

    • @jub8891
      @jub8891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ive got a semi right now

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Twoset physics!

    • @clawsoon
      @clawsoon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Don't forget inductors. (I assume that means "people who pretend to conduct in their basements".)

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@clawsoon Do they share the basement with Editor-san? ;)

    • @itamarferreiradecarvalho487
      @itamarferreiradecarvalho487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gostei! ❤

  • @himbomanrilej
    @himbomanrilej 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    loving how different they all are? there's such room for nuance, little decisions that make a performance unique. so glad I'm getting into classical music

  • @leonpetrich5864
    @leonpetrich5864 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    People like to give Rattle shit for just being a showman but hes actually a phenomenal conductor, very clear and very knowledgeable.

    • @itamarferreiradecarvalho487
      @itamarferreiradecarvalho487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Concordo em 200%

    • @Capuzzi09
      @Capuzzi09 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In fact, he was one of the greatest conductors in the world imo.
      did he make a show? Of course, he did, every conductor makes it when he gained a certain amount of reputation. But besides that, he conducted very clearly and with brilliant accuracy.

  • @nancyjfs
    @nancyjfs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I learned more about the differences between conductors in this video than I have learned in decades of symphony going. Thanks!

  • @r3adrpro811
    @r3adrpro811 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    What Karl Bohm could convey by just his eyes snd shoulders is fascinating. And Von Karajan showed why he was so great. I am sorry you did not include Georg Solti. I had the pleasure of hearing him conduct this from "his" box at Symphony Hall in Chicago snd it was amazing - one of the greatest musical experiences of my life!

    • @darkgalaxy5548
      @darkgalaxy5548 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Common wisdom is that many musicians went to Solti's funeral, just to make sure he was dead.

    • @itamarferreiradecarvalho487
      @itamarferreiradecarvalho487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Solti realmente era muito bom.

  • @Camille-Saint-Saens
    @Camille-Saint-Saens 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +567

    The best conductors practice 41 hours a day.

    • @rebeccalassetter1726
      @rebeccalassetter1726 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Should be the top comment

    • @MaimiZhang
      @MaimiZhang 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      But Ling Ling will practice 40 milliseconds and will still do it better than we think.

    • @joey-schmoey
      @joey-schmoey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What happened to the last hour

    • @LlLl-wh2to
      @LlLl-wh2to 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      (llamaboz) Surely Ling Ling is also an experienced conductor - in both orchestra and physics!

    • @Doutsoldome
      @Doutsoldome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still missing by one the answer to life, the universe, and everything.

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    The best part of this video is hearing them play seriously, at least to the best to their or the conductor's ability.

  • @hebedechampeaux
    @hebedechampeaux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    As a conductor and violinist, I find this incredibly educational. Bravo TwoSet!

    • @hebedechampeaux
      @hebedechampeaux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd be up for the youtube symphony :)

  • @elgar104
    @elgar104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Fantastic ! For orchestral players this is hysterical stuff. Thank you SO much for the work that you do. The industry owes you both a massive debt.

  • @belleclose
    @belleclose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I love how your attitudes are so different when you play, kind of like a golden retriever and a cat, with Brett having the biggest smile on his face while Eddy is so concentrated he almost looks angry at times...

  • @hayleyleiberman8491
    @hayleyleiberman8491 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    This was really cool to see! I haven't always understood when they say a conductor is good or bad, but this side by side comparison really helped to pinpoint what makes a conductor easy to follow!

  • @stefanstern-ip8tk
    @stefanstern-ip8tk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This, gentleman, is a great video. I work as a conductor in the pit for ballet and musical theater. My focus is on being as clear as possible. It might not look flashy, but the musicians feel good (Well, I hope....)

  • @SusanneHochmann
    @SusanneHochmann 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    What a fun video! What I found interesting, that they played differently with every conductor. Not only different tempo, but also different colours, vibe, energy. I absolutely love this! Will rewatch a few more times, because there is so much going on!
    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
    Guys, can I just say, I love your passion for music!

  • @sugarshosty
    @sugarshosty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    8:02 Berlin Phil = Bergen Phil confirmed

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol!

    • @SusanneHochmann
      @SusanneHochmann 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Irishlassmm2
      @Irishlassmm2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I was wondering whaaaat?

    • @justinbchen
      @justinbchen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I had to double check the principal conductor lists to make sure Karajan didn't conduct at Bergen

    • @shylockwesker5530
      @shylockwesker5530 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's in Norway, isn't it?

  • @simplytwosetter
    @simplytwosetter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    I feel like I haven't seen them play in their video for a very long time, now finally!! I know they are on tour and everything so they don't have time to practice pieces for their video, so I really hope that after their tour is done, they can record some serious playing videos like before!! I love seeing them playing together so much!!

    • @Koffeefr
      @Koffeefr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yo you changed your profile pic

  • @moriokayuri
    @moriokayuri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I know the first one, because I'm studying conducting, the maestro counts up to 3 because, Beethoven's 5th doesn't start at downbeat, it has a eighth rest on donwnbeat, so the orchestra actually plays after the donwbeat, that's why he gives the tempo prior to the downbeat, it's not on any formal conducting guide, but, it has been adopted by most conductors and it became a good practice, because Beethoven's 5th is easy to play and very hard to conduct.

    • @clarisaxpianist
      @clarisaxpianist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That’s a good point! I remember many times during my concert career where the conductor would give us a measure of conducting to set up the tempo before we come in. It’s hard to anticipate this if not told about beforehand, though

  • @LinhChi93
    @LinhChi93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    This video is essentially "Keep up with the Konductors" 🤣

    • @yiyuewu1984
      @yiyuewu1984 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't get it

    • @That_one_idiot_over_there
      @That_one_idiot_over_there 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a play on the show "keeping up with the Kardashians"​@@yiyuewu1984

    • @jenlau3954
      @jenlau3954 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@yiyuewu1984 "Keeping up with the Kardashians", "Keeping up with the Konductors"

    • @siritio3553
      @siritio3553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jenlau3954 Who tf are the Kardashians?

  • @kkcliffy2952
    @kkcliffy2952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    I've struggled to explain the importance of conductors to my non-musician friend. She thinks we should all essentially be robots and magically stay in time with each other without needing someone to conduct. I think I'll send her this video and see if that gets it through her head

    • @ogolthorp
      @ogolthorp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I always say the conductor is like the coach of a sports team. CAN the players play a game without the coach? Yes, but they’re much better with a sense of direction from a single person.

    • @bryanryan4504
      @bryanryan4504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tell her she's ignorant

  • @simplytwosetter
    @simplytwosetter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    Brett and Eddy back to the orchestra YES WE WANT TO SEE THAT!! TH-cam Symphony YES WE WANT TO SEE THAT!! Please make it happen!! We need to get to 5M!! Eddy as the concertmaster and Brett as the principal of the second violin lol, both of you need to try sth new!

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I would like that instead of a new concert. It's hard topping Brett's Mendelson,
      Hope all Twosetters that play an instrument can be part of it.
      The only problem is them reaching 5 mil, they have been on 3,0 for too long. Thougt it would go up with touring, but it isn't.

    • @SusanneHochmann
      @SusanneHochmann 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup, I second that!

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A TH-cam Symphony....maybe like the NBC Symphony was in the 30s, 40s, and 50s.....

    • @pheonix4866
      @pheonix4866 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      a youtube symphony would be absolutely epic

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pheonix4866 It would need to be a veteran commanding conductor with a cast repertoire as Toscanini and Stokowski were. Rattle? Salonen? Dudamel? Welser-Most? Noseda? Gatti? Slatkin? Vanska? Thielemann?

  • @newbie4789
    @newbie4789 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Seiji Ozawa guy's movements were soo nice to watch. And no, I'm not a musician in any shape or form but I could hear the music from his movements for some reason.
    It was soo nice

  •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was excellent! Invaluable feedback. In my humble opinion, every conductor or aspiring conductor shold watch this.

  • @saruphim2548
    @saruphim2548 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Karajan is my favorite. Absolutely brilliant and his command over the orchestra is always palpable

  • @AKoribut
    @AKoribut หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I found out that maestro Ozawa passed away recently. Rest in Piece maestro and huge thanks for your wonderful recordings!

    • @davidaronson9475
      @davidaronson9475 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How sad. He was my first conductor. My parents live down the street: From 1964 until 1968, Ozawa served as the first music director of the Ravinia Festival,[1] the summer home of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. In 1969 he served as the festival's principal conductor. I was 10 and we went to several concerts that year.

  • @simplytwosetter
    @simplytwosetter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    I love Eddy's serious face when he tried to focus and play😂fangirling rn lol While Brett is a cuttie pie who smiles through everything lol Love them so much!!!

    • @twosetter40
      @twosetter40 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This is so real like bro look at his smile

  • @irenatriskova3938
    @irenatriskova3938 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I've crossed my fingers for Sir Simon Rattle. His wife - opera singer Magdalena Kozena - comes from my hometown Brno. She supports Czech art schools for children.
    And I love you boys, you are awesome.
    Btw, pronuntiation of Sevcik is soft, like Shevtcheek. So is csardas, like tchardash 😉

  • @ogolthorp
    @ogolthorp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It’s also worth mentioning that often times conductors will tell the orchestra what certain gestures mean in certain spots in the music. So a single rehearsal often clears up any ambiguity.

  • @pbj1984
    @pbj1984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a COOL experiment!!
    And SO illustrates the importance of rehearsals, where the orchestra learns what the conductor wants you to look at, and how to interpret his/her arm movements and facial expressions!
    (Although... I sang in a high school chorus many years ago for a summer youth music festival, and there were a couple of pieces we performed with the high school orchestra, but the conductor SUDDENLY changed his entire arm movements for the ending of one of the pieces -- almost like changing the steps of a dance without notifying the partner! -- and the orchestra and chorus became seriously disconnected -- and we were doing it for a recording, so it was memorialized... I remember thinking to myself, "What do those arm movements mean?? What does he want us to do??!?" In your language, I suddenly felt VERY unsafe!! And I remember that frightening feeling to this day!!)
    But there is also the joke about what a conductor does during the actual concert, and the answer is that he starts waving his arms when the music starts, and needs to stop precisely when the music stops. 😉🤣

  • @ellina.cats3021
    @ellina.cats3021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    me watching twoset instead of practice: 😃

    • @beasterv
      @beasterv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      me too 😂

    • @chairuwu4903
      @chairuwu4903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      go practice!

    • @tammylaronde8593
      @tammylaronde8593 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chairuwu4903I’m practicing watching TwoSet. 😆

  • @__m-_9693
    @__m-_9693 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm loving Eddys excentric music genius hair style ♡ fangirling so hard!

  • @lucasgust7720
    @lucasgust7720 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    7:59 Simon Rattle was also chief of the Berliner Philharmoniker.

    • @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3
      @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And abbado

    • @SusanneHochmann
      @SusanneHochmann 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes, but he did resign - never got my head around that. Come on, you don‘t just resign from Berlin Phil !!!

    • @Lyoneastroy
      @Lyoneastroy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He just figured out Munich has way better beer! 😄 (he is with BR now in Munich)

    • @SusanneHochmann
      @SusanneHochmann 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Lyoneastroy 😀 I know, but still…I can’ t help but feel a bit offended by Sir Simon… there always was a huge glass of wheat beer for him backstage at the Philharmonie….😀

    • @joesoy9185
      @joesoy9185 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SusanneHochmann Well, Bavaria has very good wheat beer, including Erdinger, but I think the reason for his leaving the Berlin Phil is to lead a less stressful life.

  • @norenemorrow6362
    @norenemorrow6362 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! I am mainly a choral conductor, but played violin in orchestras and sang with orchestras when I was a kid so I do understand the importance of clarity from both perspectives. I loved your video because I have often watched performances where I could not understand what the conductor was doing - so many superfluous gestures and shaky batons. It is so refreshing to realize that even the greats are not that great when it comes to clarity. I guess when an orchestra rehearses with one conductor on a regular basis they get to know their style/idiosyncrasies, and then learn to anticipate or adapt. Also, learning that the concert master has such an important role in leading the orchestra was a real revelation to me. I knew that the violins follow them for things like bowing, but I did not realize that they sometimes have to compensate for a bad conductor. Thank you.

  • @sloth0jr
    @sloth0jr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I really admire the pure love you have for musicianship, and could hear the wistfulness in the desire to get back to orchestral playing.

  • @VoidWalkerOblivion
    @VoidWalkerOblivion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    What really got me was that I could see the delay between the conductor and the musician. Logically, of course there's a beat where everyone processes what was 'said', but as the audience you just kind of think that the conductor baton and the sound should be an instantaneous match. Weird thing to take away with, I know.

    • @toramenor
      @toramenor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Plus, the conductor has to prepare for cues in advance, because if he/she is giving the cue "on time", it's already too late for the musician... it must be weird for the conductor to essentially hear the whole thing before the sound appears, but I bet it's an amazing feeling. Like, you ask for this sound you have in your head, and then, as if by magic, it's there! (If the orchestra is good & you were clear with what you wanted from them)

    • @adrienovigne3077
      @adrienovigne3077 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@toramenor thanks for this thread. I know nothing of orchestra, and was wondering if the video incrustation and them playing was delayed as the conductor was always ahead haha. Now i understand better 😊

    • @clarisaxpianist
      @clarisaxpianist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      So the “delay” actually isn’t that much in this piece because a lot of the music in Beethoven 5 is played on the off beats rather than directly on the beats, which is what conductors show. However, there is still definitely a dance between conductor and musician to ensure the ensemble is playing together and not make it feel like musicians are strictly following the conductor or that the conductor has no role.
      Simultaneously, as an exercise I’ve had conductors just stop conducting and force the ensemble to continue playing through listening alone

    • @dpainter1526
      @dpainter1526 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're not alone, that was a revelation to me too😅

    • @ogolthorp
      @ogolthorp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A big reason is a lot of the hits in this piece are on the upbeat. So the conductor hits the downbeat and you play on the upbeat.

  • @devynnagy
    @devynnagy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    It's always a good day when TSV uploads!

  • @michaelcraig666
    @michaelcraig666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I think the Berlin Phil. is always going to have a good conductor because the musicians get to choose the conductor. Also, from my conducting class, this is a challenging piece to conduct...especially the beginning...it demands rehearsal. And Pletnev is a pianist who does some conducting now that he's older...ijs.

  • @mrebear9758
    @mrebear9758 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    And that's why Karajan is the GOAT.

  • @JudyCBell
    @JudyCBell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An old lady here saying your two provided a very good time for me. Thank you. So joyful.

  • @Mnimosa
    @Mnimosa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    "Carnegie is too small... ... ...We'll do it in space!"

  •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the best apology for orchestra conducting that exists. Feeling safe is the best compliment I've ever heard.
    I think that at the beginning you must be very clear in the mechanical gesture as when working with youth orchestras, here clearly the conductor makes a significant difference in the interpretation however, conducting is a mastery which means that we focus on details of the interpretation, the musicality and even the collective transcendence through the neuroconducting technique of the piece. It's like a pyramid of types of gesture but and above all that, as my Maestro Paolo Bortolameolli once told me, ultimately, all the information should be solely in the movement of the baton.
    The youtube symphony orchestra was created as one of the most ambitious orchestral realityshow project in the world once, it is time to invoke it once again and if there is anyone who can achieve it, it is you. Greetings from the end of the world, southern of Chile

  • @josephineraeburn5809
    @josephineraeburn5809 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great video - funny and informative. TSV video is like a serotonim pill. Very interesting idea as always. I was impressed at how Eddy is so analytical, to find out why they were not able to follow the conductor such as the conductor added an extra beat, there was a video cut, confusing hand movement , following the tipany etc.

  • @nigelt4257
    @nigelt4257 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. Thanks.
    Beethoven 5 is often called "The Conductor's Graveyard" for the very reasons you've demonstrated. Notoriously difficult to make it work on limited rehearsal time, especially the opening. It's why Sir Simon Rattle is SO good. Clear, economical and consistent.

  • @ssh1025
    @ssh1025 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Masato Usuki! I played under his button many times including Beethoven 5 about 20 years ago. I still remember the feeling of Beet 5 beginning. He never cared musicians playing on time, but asks some kind of energy every time.

  • @shubus
    @shubus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    How very different all these conductors are. It always brings to question how much of the conducting is for the audience and how much for the orchestra. There is always a great deal of theater involved. If you saw Bernstein in rehearsal, he usually just sat on a stool often with little more than marking the tempo--quite different from his live performances which are always highly animated. Seeing Simon Rattle in rehearsal, he is quite animated in rehearsal and in performance--check out his outstanding conducting of Britten's "Young Peoples Guide"

  • @harmonyrose7344
    @harmonyrose7344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I recently joined my local community orchestra (violin) this year, and I’ve learned that the hardest part is figuring out who to follow. I think the trick is that you don’t ONLY follow the conductor (bc sometimes I’m like wth was that movement supposed to mean?) You actually follow the conductor AND the section leader, and you also learn which other instruments share your phrase or syncopate with your phrase etc and listen to them. You also listen to the overall direction of the piece and fit in that.

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like to think of all music as chamber music. Even with a conductor, you still use all the same cues that you would use when playing chamber music without a conductor.

    • @Saskatchetooner
      @Saskatchetooner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Concertmaster first than conductor

  • @tuttilynn3791
    @tuttilynn3791 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never prep your prep. Clear cutoffs. Never subdivide beats. Cues are ALWAYS appreciated and eye contact is a MUST.

  • @JihoonKcello
    @JihoonKcello 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You're only a real conductor when you make people cry from how much you move.

  • @philharmonischelautspreche692
    @philharmonischelautspreche692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should have added Kirill Petrenko. He conducts as precisely as possible. But as you said, that's why he became chief conductor of the Berliner Philharmoniker. Greetings from Germany.

  • @tayanawoodton5475
    @tayanawoodton5475 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this is such a cool video idea i loved it!! a good conductor makes everything so much easier. you can really tell when everyone is depending on the concertmaster lol

  • @TavareJones
    @TavareJones 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone who sang in world class choirs for decades with incredible choral conductors, choral conducting seems to be exceptionally different from orchestral conducting. There’s no way I would have come in when you guys knew to. This is sooo interesting.

  • @The-Wordsmith
    @The-Wordsmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In the '90s, I was lucky enough to attend nearly all of Sir Simon Rattle's concerts (as well as talks, meets and greets etc) when he was Director of the BSO,. You could tell that the orchestra loved and respected him.
    Still the best I've ever seen live*... both at engaging the audience (choosing interesting programmes/interacting/being playful) and being clear in his musical vision. The fact that TwoSet could follow him well and Brett felt 'safe' is testament to his skills.
    *Disclaimer: I never got to see von Karajan or Ozawa :)

  • @toxications
    @toxications 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is one of the better videos I've seen from you in months.

  • @secretregion365
    @secretregion365 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    omg guys i discovered your channel like couple of days ago and been binging all videos. love your content, please keep going ❤

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welcome! You have lots and lots of videos going through. Hope you learn about LingLing and Editor-san quickly. It helps understanding the jokes.

    • @secretregion365
      @secretregion365 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@xandraxandra1437 thank u so much! this community is so kind, welcoming and talented. i already know who editor-san is, she is sooo cool and funny, it is such a dream to be friends with her 😍 i think i watched ~80 videos on this channel + some interviews/q&a/etc. and pressed "like" button on more than 50 of them so i can rewatch them later. brett and eddy have such strong bond and chemistry: i will never get bored of them. sorry for my english 🫡

  • @birdgirl2623
    @birdgirl2623 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's also very interesting to see the different conducting styles and interpretations of the music.

  • @amandas.6500
    @amandas.6500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    For your 5M symphony concert, TwoSet, who do you want to conduct you?

    • @Hannah-CatLady
      @Hannah-CatLady 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Ling Ling ofc 😂

    • @steveburkey
      @steveburkey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hannah-CatLady 🤣❤

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's a huge difference between conductors interpretations of the same piece and this video proves it. For example Antal Dorati's version of The Rites Of Spring (with I think the Detroit Symphony?) is so perfect in tempo, so lacking in extraneous drama that it makes the intricate mechanisms and dynamics of the piece stand out in stark relief. If anything, by emphasizing the rhythmic perfection of the score the Rites sounds even more alien and frightening than more dramatic interpretations.

  • @matthewp5417
    @matthewp5417 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The latency was hard to avoid, but I enjoyed this. more explanation about what you're looking for for us noobs would be nice :-) love you guys, as always.

  • @miriams.4341
    @miriams.4341 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When our conductor was ill, we got one of her colleagues, who in my estimation was stirring soup the entire time rather than conducting. It was go awful. He just vaguely waved his hands. He walked away declaring we had no sense of rhythm 😭

  • @user-hl4kk8wd3k
    @user-hl4kk8wd3k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was such a fun video! Very interesting to hear back-to-back versions of what each conductor wanted, to make it his own unique sound. Loved watching Brett & Eddy totally immersed in their concentration to follow the beat of each example. (Yes, it is true, rehearsal is vital to know exactly what the conductor wants!)

  • @charlations
    @charlations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This was such a cool concept!!!! And I love how it was with such an explosive piece too!!!

  • @jamesuhrig25
    @jamesuhrig25 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun video! I like the idea of delving into the qualities that make a conductor great, or even just what exactly does a conductor do! Here I think the lesson is "conduct" in the most basic sense: leadership. The conductor sets up not only the tempo, but signals what kind of energy is desired from the ensemble. Let's have more of this!

  • @jaegertiger384
    @jaegertiger384 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Now... you've got 80 hrs of daily practice time ahead of you:
    1. Individual Practice - 40 hrs
    2. Orchestral Skills Practice - 40 hrs

  • @alexismandelias
    @alexismandelias 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Timestamps:
    00:55 - Masato Usuki
    02:15 - Leonard Bernstein
    03:18 - Daniel Barenboim
    04:14 - John Eliot Gardiner
    05:10 - Christian Thielemann
    06:28 - Simon Rattle
    07:18 - Herbert von Karajan
    08:26 - Myung-Whun Chung
    09:31 - Mikhail Pletnev
    10:51 - Gianandrea Noseda
    11:38 - Karl Böhm
    12:44 - Seiji Ozawa

  • @fuyumi27
    @fuyumi27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I think i need to watch this video 3x. 1x to watch Twoset playing, 1x to watch them playing with the video, and 1x to watch their reactions to the playing. Brett looking extremely cute in this video 😊

  • @alexanderfreeman8921
    @alexanderfreeman8921 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! As a mediocre trumpet player, I have played many off-stage "banda" parts. In such a case, we have to watch the conductor on a TV screen. It is SO hard. Also, our pitch goes flat and everyone tells us we are late, no matter how much we try to anticpate.
    Seeing you guys struggle with following a conductor on a video screen was strangely inspiring.

  • @asterrmb
    @asterrmb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    5 mil, TH-cam symphony at Hollywood Bowl! (with Dudamel conducting!) let’s go!

  • @LingLingwannabes_
    @LingLingwannabes_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    My WiFi is broken and twoset uploads a video
    Me - watching with my mobile data :>>

  • @brasschick4214
    @brasschick4214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love this 🥰 I played in a concert on bass recently and there were several times that we could have used clear direction (and the tempo lowered by about 5bpm) especially on some final rall.notes in a bridge section to cement in the new key sig 🥺.
    A thought for an episode- have tuba/basses/percussion on and discuss the role of their instruments as the ‘engine room’ of the ensemble.

  • @jeanettegirosky7735
    @jeanettegirosky7735 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awhile back.....my daughter, who plays the baritone, was at 'band camp'. They had invited the parents for a recital and as this group was mostly 4th-6th grade....it was a little painful to listen to. I chalked it off to lack of a good teacher in a rural area. Anyways, towards the end, they had a special guest conductor from a major symphony orchestra and the kids had no idea about this. Their posture, attitude and attention changed immediately...like an 'oh s***' moment. I was ASTOUNDED at the difference in playing....they actually sounded good....like I had no idea they could play that well! I thought about the teacher though....and realized that she must not have been so bad at her job for them to follow the guest conductor so well. Hats off to all the teachers trying to keep them motivated!!!

    • @susanbryant6516
      @susanbryant6516 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s really interesting.. and yes the teacher must have been pretty good to get the kids capable of stepping up their game.. maybe the teacher will be inspired by this to find a way to keep that spirit up for them. Did your daughter have anything today about the experience? Did she notice the difference in her/their performance?

    • @jeanettegirosky7735
      @jeanettegirosky7735 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@susanbryant6516 Like many kids that age, my daughter acted like it was nothing special lol....I swear all I did the whole way home was try and drag one word answers out of her! But I will say that whether she wanted to admit it or not, she and her classmates were definitely better for the experience! It's been what....almost 20 years ago...I'm ashamed to admit I'd have to drag out the yearbooks to remember her name. But I will never forget what she and that conductor did.

  • @okko16
    @okko16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    12:45 He really conducts with his hair.

  • @janicefrillmann
    @janicefrillmann 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great one. I have played under a lot of different conductors for Beethoven 5 and I have seen quite a few of those conducting styles.
    Good job Two Set 🎶🎶🎶

  • @Kyujar.png49
    @Kyujar.png49 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rip Seiji Ozawa 😢😢😢

  • @torontoclarinetist
    @torontoclarinetist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is great. Conductors need to take more accountability and I honestly feel like I’m playing to my fullest potential when there’s someone that knows what they’re doing. Thanks for this entertaining video 😅

  • @perfectheart7010
    @perfectheart7010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Staying up late is always worth it fr!! (Gotta get that 40 hour practice streak)

  • @carinjansenvanvuuren8988
    @carinjansenvanvuuren8988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! We just spent a symphony season with 4 conductors. Very crucial clear conducting and for me especially asserting your role with confidence, guiding the orchestra. I really enjoyed our first week with Conrad van Alphen. Well let me go practise, pray for me guys we’re starting with Sleeping Beauty this Sunday😭😭💀

  • @caganmahir2207
    @caganmahir2207 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    woow that would be legit to make a youtube symphony amazing idea cant wait for it

  • @KuroKisakiCovers
    @KuroKisakiCovers หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Last year I went to my first classical concert. It was amazing. The conductor was Pietari Inkinen and on the violin solist was Pinchas Zukerman.
    They played Sibelius Finlandia, then Max Bruch Violin concert in g-minor op 26 and after that ANTONÍN DVOŘÁK Sinfonie No. 8 G-Dur op. 88.
    Everything was so beautiful it made me cry. Sadly it wasn't recorded, so I couldn't buy it afterwards (I tried to buy it XD).
    Would be intereting if you would try following Pietari Inkinen.
    Btw amazing video. ^^ I play piano but I got to appreciate violin more through your videos and you inspired me to start playing again. ♥

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    TH-cam Symphony LET'S GOOOOO!!!!

  • @xCriticalStrikex
    @xCriticalStrikex 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of the more entertaining videos you guys have done in a while, really like this content.

  • @elizabethgrinningson7730
    @elizabethgrinningson7730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I wonder how long it took to film. I love the video! No crazy editing, and you can focus on the content

  • @karlkreisner5278
    @karlkreisner5278 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Whoa, I was already somewhat amazed by Simon Rattle when Karajan came along with his intense left hand gesture killing this score completely! :O what an impressive madman!

  • @sarahjeong1647
    @sarahjeong1647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    FINALLY TWOSET'S SERIOUS PLAYING

  • @Pluton-bw1yh
    @Pluton-bw1yh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually sang an opera directed by Sir Simon Rattle, and I can testify that his conduct was very clear, and we definitely felt safe with him. The opera was Wozzeck by Berg, and I was part of the group of children who were singing at the end.

  • @siarametanal4317
    @siarametanal4317 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the faces you are both making while trying to follow the conductors 😂

  • @LuisMurillo-u1w
    @LuisMurillo-u1w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Adam Fisher is one of the finest conductors I have ever seen. His gestures are unequivocal and his musical imagination is crystal clear.