Exactly! My current vehicle is a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I really wanted to buy a brand new one. But when I checked the prices, I was shocked to see that in order to get a new vehicle with the SAME OPTIONS and FEATURES, I'd have to pay over $20,000 more! And even worse, I can't get an engine as good as my current Hemi V8. So yeah... they did this to themselves.
People who don't think this is. Intentional needs to wake up. This is the Chinese Communist party rather than their EV band dates by the Biden and Chinese kindness socialist in America. Who they do all their dealings with? Does fictitious name of this company? Is just a name but the owners are shown their heads right now, China.
There is a video on TH-cam where a CEO is rejecting for a good CV. In the interview he changed the game and told the company that he can ruin it, raise praise, decrease quality and make everything worse. He is granted a job after he told the company that then he will go with $20 million bonus and compensations. I guess CEOs of these companies are going this route. lol.
I wonder if Chrysler hadn’t been around in WW2 the outcome would have been a different story. I’m staying loyal no matter what as a engineer I appreciate Chrysler industry standards set over the years
@@boxoffisa G wagon just like range rover is in a niche market which is rich people. Most of the time it's usually the wife of a rich husband driving around in one coz they think it's cute... Jeeps and the others main market is the middle class. The only reason they got big is coz they were cheap so you could overlook the build quality. Now they are trying to sell these same tincans at premium prices hence why they ain't selling anything...
Well, get ready to ride your electric bike to work in Seattle or Minneapolis. Your disgust at the auto industry and solution will not end well. But hey you can always buy a Car made in China and where that will lead. My thoughts, start learning Chinese.
Oh yea you are definitely correct. It's a very bad environment now, bank lending drying up, and subpar low quality garbage that won't last 7 years .already, negative equity is a huge problem with no easy answers.
And already vehicles bought in the last 3 years already are having expensive repair bills .the result the average person can't do both continue to maintain and make the payments and are walking away from their vehicles at a very alarming rate.
@DanGilliland-pi4vh and im not surprised! The cars literally aren't worth what they're asking! They don't build em like they used to, everything is disposable, non serviceable by design. Customers notice these things as much as the companies try to hide it.
Nobody wants to pay for these overpriced vehicles. People would rather have an inexpensive basic vehicle over an expensive vehicle with features they don’t want or need. Additionally, new vehicle quality, reliability and longevity have been getting progressively worse every year.
@@elgastsos210 Back in the 1970s Chrysler's quality almost put the company into bankruptcy. They were only saved by the availability of a massive loan. Enter a few more changes but their quality only improved slightly. After the 2009 Bush Recession and bailout, their quality again nosedived. And it hasn't recovered. They make some pretty cars. But they are just too unreliable. Burned once, OK, but not repeatedly.
No cap if Stellantis were to start selling Citroëns, Opels, or Vauxhalls on the US market I’d actually buy one. Other than that, once I’ve finally learned to drive/have my license I’ll just buy a 2010s clunker as cheap as I can get one.
@@nathansmith3401 They never got a government loan. They had a "letter of intent" that allowed them to borrow from private lenders on much more favorable terms knowing the government would bail them out. The K-car stopped the hemorrhaging of money. The Dodge Caravan minivan and later the Ram pick-up brought them into the black.
I've been driving Dodge and Rams for sixty years ( I am 79 and still going strong ). I wouldn't touch the overpriced junk they are turning out now with a ten foot pole.
I’m 69 and I agree, owned a few Dodge pick-ups, a van and a jeep. Went to buy a new one this year. Got a server case of sticker shock. I think I will just keep what I got for now.
@@martinbrian300 I Currently have a 2007 and a 2011. Plan on keeping them till the wheels fall off or I die whichever comes first. A lot of folks are buying decent older vehicles and putting a few thousand dollars in them. They end up with a good daily driver for about a third of the price of a new pile of junk and the insurance is cheaper.
Jeep should be their own company, independent,and should go back to the roots of jeep,and put on options as buyers request,at a very great quality control, repair and replace parts for the buyers in the jeep market,, nobody is going to buy a 80K jeep!, that's a jeep owners opinion,Go JEEP!!!.
brother that is some wisdom there !! imagine jeep as its own company with configurations of vehicles that a struggling college kid or an affluent older guy could afford, options designed by our favorite aftermarket company but sold and warranties through jeep damn!!
Yep. And a lot of people don’t need cars anymore, or maybe just one instead of two. Uber is pretty efficient and I can’t wait for full self driving to ACTUALLY become available.
@@Rhotz-ix8llSelf-driving only makes sense on the multi-lane Interstate. Driving in an urban environment or on the older US Numbered Highways (most of which are two-lane only) will still require human control. So dream on!
It all boils down to the PRICES of Stellantis vehicles. When our lease on our 2020 Grand Cherokee was over I was looking forward to getting a Ram Rebel and that idea came to end when we saw the huge increase in prices. We ended up in the end just keeping the Grand Cherokee. Last week we went into a Jeep dealership for service work on the Cherokee and my wife fell in love with the Wagoneer until she saw the $110k price tag.
Why are we blaming the manufacturers for the switch to v6s from v8s? The Government is mandating this because of emissions regulations. Blame the Government.
Gm and ford still still sell v8s as standard options only dodge, ram, Nissan and Toyota went 6 cylinder. The Japanese trucks face the chicken Tax so their hand is forced. Dodge could just keep paying their fine or stop super charging their v8s to improve emissions.
@@HbEthan. Wrong, 2025 is the end of v8's in the USA, or maybe ya didn't hear? Hurricane I6 from dodge (they shoulda just gone back to the slant 6) v6 3.5 eco boost that is tuned super lean but gets 2 mpg more than a v8, so sad. And GM's cylinder deactivation shreds the engines. Great engineering so far ............ NOT.
Imagine that. Doing away with the v8 in favor of a straight 6 you can't check the oil on and a so called muscle car with fake exhaust sound 😅😂🤣. What did they expect? Stupid is as stupid does.
@@moparmadman1134 are the motors actually hemispherical heads ? I read somewhere that they aren't and they just use the name because it's patented and copyright protected.
That's just like Harley-Davidson got a German running their country and how about this Elon musk from South Africa don't you think it's time to get rid of all these foreigners CEOs
It's worse. Checking his education and extensive automotive industry experience, Tavares SHOULD be expert on what the European market definitely DOESN'T want to drive. Somebody needs to look into that.
@@teglaprbambaluftlaurvafhen5449 How is that racist? You are assigning a race to the word foreigner. How could you possibly not know there are all races outside of the United States? Stop filling in your blanks.
Quality? at Chrysler? They were already taken over by Daimler because their quality was the shits. (Daimler may have done them dirty, but their homegrown issues took them there in the first place.)
Tavares also needs to sell the rights to the Maxwell, Plymouth, De Soto, and Imperial names back to American investors alongside the currently-extant Chrysler brands. Oh how I would love to see new Maxwells or Plymouths in particular on the road!
The whole Chrysler universe (including Jeep) has been sinking for decades. Remember the alliances with Mercedes-Benz and then Fiat ? Stellantis got it all for peanuts cause that's what it was worth. With a typical new model R & D costs running a few billion dollars, a single brand and line such as Jeep could not raise enough capital and generate profits. Even well established brands like Subaru or Mitsubishi have to resort to sharing major components since they cannot afford development of their own. 😮😮
I agree 100%. My current Jeep has a Hemi V8, and the lack of that option (coupled with the HUGE price increase) is why I haven't purchased a new Jeep vehicle.
Exactly this..they will try to make it political though and bail them out, the public needs to make sure we make it very clear that is not acceptable and would be a poor career choice voting for an auto bailout in ‘25, ‘26 or whenever it happens.
Since the pandemic their quality dropped off so far no one's going to buy, and they're not going to buy $75,000 Jeeps. I need to make a V8 pickup for $25k a Jeep 4 x 4 for $27k. And An affordable minivan $35k
Not as shoddy as some of that foreign junk people love so much. Hyundai engines were failing under 30k just to name one. Nissan had the same issue for a while Toyota's were killing people for a while. Funny how people tolerate that from foreign car makers.
Keys to success for Stellantis ( sarcastic) 1. Lower quality 2. Put Fiat stuff and badge it as Jeep 3. Put Fiat diesels in Ram 4. Inflate your prices to gouging level 5. Overproduce , have 300 days supply in the pipeline 6. Abandon your pirates aka dealers 7. Fail to fix things like oiling problems in the hemi, electrical issues and weak transmissions To summarize Poor engineering. Poor build quality. Bad dealers. Overproduce. Over priced. Treat your customers poorly..... Wow you have really screwed the pooch 🐶 🐕
For the amount of three or four months of payments on a $60,000 new car I can do every repair and interior cleanup of a 25 year old car that doesn't track my every movement, and drive as far as across the country.
Of course . It’s not just dodge. It’s bad all over just look at the crap all the auto companies are making junk overpriced engines breaking down bad parts treat customers like trash .Cars are over priced made with only the consumer getting ripped off stop buying people and force them to get real.
There was no shift in what people want. Stellantis stopped producing what people want when they stopped manufacturing the Hemi V8. Then they went all in on EVs, which less than 2% of the US population are interested in. On top of all that, they overpriced all of their vehicles by 30 to 40 thousand dollars. This is a perfect storm of stupidity by a European company about the US market.
It looks like the executives of Stellantis never understood what the american market is very different of the other markets, and never took care of the expectations of american customers, they probably thought that they Can offer the same low quality véhicules they do especially on the european market!
The Hemi was an over hyped sales pitch. Un knowing customers thought if they bought a new vehicle with a Hemi, they had something special. Little do they know, most engines these days are hemi design....
The 392 Hemi is still available in the Jeep Wranglers. It was supposed to be a special one-year model, but they keep extending it from the '23 model year, to the '24, and now '25. People love it, but it is expensive, as well as being a fuel hog.
The problem is they haven’t gone all out on EV’s. They do lnot have a pulse on the market, realibility & quality is an issue. They decided to chase the 1% of consumers .
You nailed it. There's no sense of Chrysler tradition, history, nor pride, on the part of the incredibly arrogant Carlos Tavares. He's poison. He doesn't give a rip about the American market and culture.
The only persons surprised by this situation are the executives at Stellantis. They sell the public on the idea of buying an $80.k vehicle. When what we need is a $25k car. They build them in Europe. But will not sell them in the US. I personally can not afford to spend two years salary on a car.
The root cause of their sales tanking is because they jacked their prices up rediculously high after 2019. I'm sure a big part of their justification was to offset the loosing move to EV's.
ridiculous greedy prices along with highly suspect engineering of products that anyone with brain understand is going to break Just a matter of when not IF>>> Add to this that Stellantis is a EU based company that really could care less what they sell into the US market. So you are totally correct in your assessment of why sales are tanking
A lot of the blame lies with the government and their stupid regulations. There are so many unnecessary things on vehicles that add to the cost and add to things that can go wrong. Also, the government forcing EVs on us is another big mistake that also adds cost and manufacturers add markup to the gas vehicles to offset the losses on EVs.
@@stevepailet8258 in my area for lead the way with way more expensive than they needed to be. RAM was the one that was absolutely affordable, but that was in my area.
You hit the nail firmly on the head here, as the EV revolution ( implosion ) is happening now and all the car makers who went woke are all in trouble? Good riddens to bad rubbish. I bought a ICE vehicle as I refuse to go EV!!
More like American consumers still buying 1970 muscle cars in the 21st century. If you need 30 gallon tanks to do the same mileage my hybrid with an 8 gallon tank does, that's the problem. Complain about gas price and still buying a 10 miles a gallon SUV or truck.
@@snafufubar That has nothing to do. It is unimportant if i need 5 or 100l fuel. Prices are just stupidly high because some people still think that the "established parties" do anything for them. And im from Germany. Here is fuel about 70 cent per Liter. But i have to pay around 1,76 €. That is just stealing in my book. The fuel consumption has nothing to do with the Problem. And dont forget. His 70s Muscle car has 4 times the power of your Hybrid and will possibly last way longer than your computerized Application. And i bet he has fun driving while you just drive. Oh and dont forget, your little hybrid cost as much as a real car did 20years ago.
@@derstrohmann7450 The Toyota Prius typically runs trouble-free for almost 500,000 kilometers. Their transmissions never fail. Ask any Toyota mechanic if they have ever replaced a Prius transmission. They will say "none." I guess you like burning your money up out the tailpipe. Driving a car that uses only 4 liters/100km is like driving for free, and that is fun as heck. I work too hard for my money to drive a non-hybrid.
@@derstrohmann7450 If his Muscle Car has four times more power than the Hybrid, it has 75% more power than anybody needs. Just look at these perverse monstrosities produced by Ram. Anybody who thinks that his fun should come out of driving a fucking tank around should pay the proper fortune for it. And decadent extreme hobbies like that don't fuel mass sales, because the majority of people have never been that daft and never will. Don't expect mass sales from an absurd niche product.
The worst decision the CEO of Stellantis made is to take away the buyers choice of engines. They force buyers into buying the 6 cylinder TT without giving them a choice. They should have kept the 5.7 & 6.4 on the option list for the 1500 & 2500 series. Not too mention, most buyers can't afford a 100k+ truck. FCOL I was looking at a 2024 regular cab 1500 tradesman 4x4 with the 5.7 and the dealer wanted 56k for it!
For me, it is first reliability and then price. I do love the look of many of their vehicles, but I drive cars for at least 6 years and one I have driven 16 years, so I am looking for a reliable and durable car/truck. These cars and trucks have suspect reliability and durability and prices that are just unaffordable.
There is a LOT of things our government shouldn't pay for but does. That said, any bailout must require domestic ownership and divestment by Stellantis.
frist place all there cars and trucks are way overpriced. that one reason there not selling. and put tax and fees. and building cars and trucks nobody wants. there going to let the market place sort it out. might take a few years.
I owned 2 Chrysler vehicles. A Dodge van that the transmission went out at 70,000 miles and a Chrysler convertible that the timing belt tensioner went out at 70,000 miles. Today I own my second Toyota Highlander with no problems. One with 177,000 miles and a second with 70,000 miles. And a Honda S2000 with 80,000 miles with no problems.
I agree ! I recently purchased a 2010 Challenger R/T, B-5 Blue, 6-speed tremec, pistol grip . 1 owner , original paint 42,000 mi. Perfect Carfax . $ 19,500. The stellantis dealer near me has more new cars than they have room for. The used or trade ins have been shuffled around from lot to lot. Every time they move them to make space , the discount on the windshield goes up another $500. My previous cars, 68 440 charger, 64 Plymouth wagon ( Hemi) drag car. 69 GTX 440 (restored). Walter P. Chrysler is rolling over in his grave.
The dealers sucked right in, no excuses for price gouging the public! The dealers should have put their feet down. All B.S. you will ALL now go down! You should not have Fk,,,,d the public!
I’m still a Jeep fan. But it’s tough for a senior like me. I have to fund my retirement 😢 instead of buying a new Jeep. They really need to lower the cost of new vehicles to $30,000 if they want to sell cars. Their costs are waaaaaaay too high or they are being too greedy.
You folks that are in the business of manufacturing and sales fully understand the problems are over paid management over priced cheaply built vehicles that seem to be pledged with a multitude of serious problems. The recall is discussing plus a shortage of parts to fix the issues that should have never left the manufacturers. The ridiculous amount of internal problems in many of the manufacturers. Next the manufacturer builds vehicles that nobody wants to be stuck with for 3-4 years of high interest and again over priced junk. We the buyers are fed up with your childish games. You can keep your crap vehicles and all the problems that seem to be built in them on purpose.
To work on new vehicles i needed a 800.00 scanner and wire tracer and many hrs of figuring out codes and fixes .getting so complex dealers cant fix thier own vehicle's . i just did top end gmc and delete the fuel management which is taking out lifters push rods and cams .you gonna pay a dealer 6000.00 to get a exstra 2 miles per gallon on repairs . I did the repair for 500.00 but a dealer would have charged 6000.00 who can pay to fix thier veihica's .
Yep... no "mechanics" anymore... only "IT" guys LoL. You know you are going to have problems when you get a flat tire, take it off to get patched and when you put it back on get dash warnings of "Tires not recognized" and have to reprogram them to the car.... TIRES. Every piece on a car has a computer chip in it now. Can't replace a broken side mirror or door handle without having to get the dealer to reprogram it to the car. Just crazy.
The Jeep Wrangler died in 2007. Who puts a grill made of plastic on a $60k+ on a Wrangler Rubicon? It is like they build unreliable cars on purpose thinking they can force customers to buy another new car every 5-6 years.
Stop chasing electrification and produce vehicles people want at prices people can afford. When you put all of this together with high interest rates no wonder they aren’t selling.
That's not enough I had 260,000 miles on a 2004 Chevy Cavileer only regular maintenance and normal upkeep. Did a head gasket and recharged the A/C one time.
Warranty is not going to help they can’t fix them anyway Just have to bite the bullet and buy something pre 2012 and have it recommissioned and drive it till it stops that might cost $30000 but you’ll know what you have and they will be repairable. Not this new junk that spy’s on you and turns you in to the dealer if you hit 70 mph .
@Kawasaki750H2stroke i mean these things won't last forever. You'll eventually need maintenance. 200k miles is a lot if you think about it..from a warranty perspective.
If they want their market back build non turbo, manual transmission low tech electronic vehicles, get the prices down no one want or needs a vehicle over $40,000
I’ve been a Dodge,Chrysler,Plymouth, Jeep fan/driver my whole life but would not consider buying another new one now until some major changes are made. Stelantis has pretty much ruined them along with the help of government regulations.
The electronic engineers has taken over the Big Three and that’s why all North American vehicles are in a mess . Most of them don’t work in northern climate. Electronics control all the mechanical operations … batteries go dead in winter , door locks gets frozen, no key entry , engine runs rough ; all those electrical systems piss me off in the middle of winter and manufactures made me take the piece of cr**t into the dealership to reset the computer .
Stopped listening when robodoofus kept saying "vates" . Realized it was supposed to be " V-8 's " 🤦♂️ And THEN🤦♀️ the CREATOR - GENERATED captioning printed it as "weights" !! ⚠️ CREDIBILITY PLUMMETED to SUB-Basement Level ⚠️
I drove Ram Trucks for 20+ years, in 2020 I purchased a new Ram 2500 Laramie with the Cummins and after it stayed broke down 4 months the 1 1/2 years I owned it with Emission problems and Stellantis wouldn't fix or couldn't fix it I dumped it!! I couldn't even use it to pull our 5TH wheel and travel. Never Buying anything from Stellantis again. Never Never Never AGAIN, Awful Experience🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
Their cars, SUVs and Trucks are having major issues like oil cooler fires and catastrophic engine failures. There's police departments who have Dodge Durangos which are just a few years old and they are getting rid of the whole fleet because the vehicles are so badly made. The company is ignoring their requests for a solution. If you need the police for a emergency and they are driving a Dodge, there's a chance the vehicle will break down in a life or death situation. Avoid Stellantis Automobile company
Since COVID I have moved to a remote job with a home office. Yes, I travel internationally much more....but usually take the train to the airport. Instead of filling up my tank at least once a week, I am down to a fill-up no more than once per month! My car...gets driven to the local grocery store twice a week and to the nearby train station maybe three times per week. The rest of the time, it stays nicely tucked away in the garage. Why buy a new car? It's paid off and is well maintained. I wonder if a reduction in daily office commutes has cut into new car sales....or simply put off the need for a new car/truck purchase for those struggling with the inflation of daily consumables.
Same here. My 10 year old 150k miles FJ cruiser looks fine, drives fine, garaged at home and work, goes off road and has been paid for two years ago. Why buy a new vehicle. Mine is Japan made and ultra reliable. House paid off , vehicles paid off, empty nester. Money added into high yield accounts. Retired. Got lucky. Maybe a2023 used 4 runner in the future. Paid for in cash. Life is good.
How about? Fire that CEO and demand that money back. Because he did just the opposite of his job. Committing corporate sabotage. Forcing the workers to overbuild vehicles and not dropping the prices. And cutting jobs having those components added onto others over cycling the jobs forcing through the vehicles sabotaging quality and eliminating quality inspection jobs. Taking away quality bonuses thereby giving no incentive to the workers to even care about quality. And completely cutting overtime to the workers who actually buy the products that they cannot afford to buy what they build now. He made it quantity over quality. Which is death to any product. It's simple. 1 Drop the prices. 2 . CEOs take a pay cut for once. Trust me they can afford it.. 3 Stop asking the workers to sacrifice and embrace poverty "Sergio" when it's all they ever do while busting their asses. And not get paid back. 4 make quality before quantity. 5 bring back WCM.
When the CEO of Stellantis came out and announced Jeep is now a Luxury brand! I won a jeep, Luxury is not a word I would use for it. Stellantis has raised priced 50 percent since the pandemic.
I just bought a new 2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited this past August, w/the 6-speed manual transmission, and the 3.6L V6 engine. I went and checked on any Recalls, and there were none. With a Window Sticker Price of $59K, I was able to get it for around $50K. With just 1500 miles on it, it's now sitting at the dealer waiting for a new replacement transmission. One of the synchro's failed. At the moment, they haven't a clue of just when that will happen, but I've got a free loaner in the meantime. There's now talk of another Recall for the '24 Jeep's Dash Displays come October.
I would love to have a bad ass SRT wide body Charger in my Garage, But the Dealer Greed markup + already too expensive price tag makes it a real deal breaker !
My dad worked retired for Chrysler after 32 years. My brothers have worked at Chrysler since 88 and the other is an engineer since 96. That being said I wouldn’t buy a new Chrysler vehicle now They added 25-30% to prices, quality went down and they got rid of good selling models with nothing to replace them with. They are still using a gen 4 cab on the HD trucks and the jeeps are pretty much unchanged since 18.
@@kentmorton2872 Umm, yah kinda, they're competing against foreign manufactures whose labor costs (for good or bad, their workers are basically slaves) are a fraction of what the domestic manufacturers have to pay in wages and benefits. I'm not saying it's pretty, or right, but manufacturing costs are what they are. Unless you can make them cheaper... you can't sell them cheaper. It's that or bankruptcy.
@@jspera4187 That is a race to the bottom. Because the American workers can't compete with slave wages. And the workers they are competing with cannot buy American cars.
I think they all have it wrong To much tech that breaks and is making the cars over priced and not enough useful performance we want go anywhere do anything trucks
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Nobody wants to buy our cars...LET"S RAISE THE PRICES!!! Billiant!
Exactly! My current vehicle is a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I really wanted to buy a brand new one. But when I checked the prices, I was shocked to see that in order to get a new vehicle with the SAME OPTIONS and FEATURES, I'd have to pay over $20,000 more! And even worse, I can't get an engine as good as my current Hemi V8.
So yeah... they did this to themselves.
People who don't think this is.
Intentional needs to wake up. This is the Chinese Communist party rather than their EV band dates by the Biden and Chinese kindness socialist in America. Who they do all their dealings with? Does fictitious name of this company? Is just a name but the owners are shown their heads right now, China.
@@Snapper314 Cry
There is a video on TH-cam where a CEO is rejecting for a good CV. In the interview he changed the game and told the company that he can ruin it, raise praise, decrease quality and make everything worse. He is granted a job after he told the company that then he will go with $20 million bonus and compensations.
I guess CEOs of these companies are going this route. lol.
In the immortal words of Lee IaToka ‘ our cars aren’t high we are’
Overprice + low quality = no sales.
My best truck 2021 limited awesome. Dealer too. Feeny. Dodge Midland Michigan
My best truck 2021 limited awesome. Dealer too. Feeny. Dodge Midland Michigan
Not enough customers with money to spend also means no sales.
@@MikeBanks2003 Three good replies against THOUSANDS OF POOR ONES
Junk
Over $100,00 for a truck plus Insurance $150 to $200 for a full tank of gas! They are out of their minds. And No Bailouts this time,Let It Rott
and after what the UAW did to put additional pressure on costs, I see no escape. Layoffs will be permanent as customers stay with Toyota and Honda.
@@networth9151 there is no escape even in ToyoHonda.
Both have decreases sales.
@@networth9151 Just bought a Brand New 2024 V8 Tundra Platinum.....and saved 30k cash.
Out of control : pricing people out of the markets
I wonder if Chrysler hadn’t been around in WW2 the outcome would have been a different story.
I’m staying loyal no matter what as a engineer I appreciate Chrysler industry standards set over the years
Whos stupid enough to pay 100,000 truck your afraid to use, that spies on you
I’m delivery driver couple houses I seen two or three jeeps wagoners lol.
People buy g wagon though.
@@boxoffisa G wagon just like range rover is in a niche market which is rich people. Most of the time it's usually the wife of a rich husband driving around in one coz they think it's cute...
Jeeps and the others main market is the middle class. The only reason they got big is coz they were cheap so you could overlook the build quality. Now they are trying to sell these same tincans at premium prices hence why they ain't selling anything...
They tried to go from the low-cost value brand to premium brand pricing without improving their product.
Problem is very easy to solve. Cut MSRP by 38%, offer 10 year warranty on the junk they build, offer no more than 2.9 financing for qualified buyers
38% is too low. Should be at least 50% off for the junk they make.
I agree with you
ok so if they do this they still die unless they actually offer a cheap Jeep, that is simple and offers some level of reliability.
It is still junk even at half the price. Can't polish a turd.
Well, get ready to ride your electric bike to work in Seattle or Minneapolis. Your disgust at the auto industry and solution will not end well. But hey you can always buy a Car made in China and where that will lead. My thoughts, start learning Chinese.
Stellantis CEO's $39 Million Pay Package Bloomberg.Apr 16, 2024
But yet they blame sales 😅
The executives need a salary high enough to afford the vehicles they sell, anything less is inhumane.
Colonial capitalism ceo getting millions of dollars in bonuses what afkn joke 😂😂😂
It's a gross amount - but just a drop in the bucket of Stellantis/Fiat/Chrysler's budget. By why is he deserving of more than $1 million?
Kind of funny considering if I was as bad at my job as this CEO apparently is, I wouldn't have a job, let alone bonuses.
And I have to wonder if the CEO still gets a bonus as employees get laid off🤔
Greed took over, You done it to YOURSELF! You're fired-walk away with nothing!
I agree, completely STUPID decisions by the CEO. 🖕
You Kidding? CEOs are paid many millions in bonuses when they are let go. Doesn't make sense, but it happens.
@@Robert-d2u1e dodge and others get bailed out every 20 years or so - dit does not matter if it is dem or rep, the taxpayer gets screwed
$39mils
It's always the same
Vehicles are so overpriced people can't afford new vehicles anymore.
I'm about to buy an old (but solid house) for the price of two Jeep Grand Wagoneers that I saw a year ago at the dealership I used to work at.
we also dont want spyware
Paying 80-110k for a vehicle is absurd.
If you think the car market is bad now, wait until next year at this time. You ain't seen nothin yet!
Oh yea you are definitely correct. It's a very bad environment now, bank lending drying up, and subpar low quality garbage that won't last 7 years .already, negative equity is a huge problem with no easy answers.
And already vehicles bought in the last 3 years already are having expensive repair bills .the result the average person can't do both continue to maintain and make the payments and are walking away from their vehicles at a very alarming rate.
@@elgastsos210 See NC & the hurricane damage
All I need is a basic 1/2 to 3/4 ton pickup with heat, ac and an AM radio. No more.
@DanGilliland-pi4vh and im not surprised! The cars literally aren't worth what they're asking! They don't build em like they used to, everything is disposable, non serviceable by design. Customers notice these things as much as the companies try to hide it.
Nobody wants to pay for these overpriced vehicles. People would rather have an inexpensive basic vehicle over an expensive vehicle with features they don’t want or need. Additionally, new vehicle quality, reliability and longevity have been getting progressively worse every year.
@@elgastsos210 Back in the 1970s Chrysler's quality almost put the company into bankruptcy. They were only saved by the availability of a massive loan. Enter a few more changes but their quality only improved slightly. After the 2009 Bush Recession and bailout, their quality again nosedived. And it hasn't recovered.
They make some pretty cars. But they are just too unreliable. Burned once, OK, but not repeatedly.
Damn right. If they built a stainless steel medium sized car under fifteen grand I would buy one.
No cap if Stellantis were to start selling Citroëns, Opels, or Vauxhalls on the US market I’d actually buy one. Other than that, once I’ve finally learned to drive/have my license I’ll just buy a 2010s clunker as cheap as I can get one.
@alanmcentee9457 the government loan and the inexpensive K cars. Something like a K car (but with better quality) would ve welcome right now.
@@nathansmith3401
They never got a government loan. They had a "letter of intent" that allowed them to borrow from private lenders on much more favorable terms knowing the government would bail them out.
The K-car stopped the hemorrhaging of money. The Dodge Caravan minivan and later the Ram pick-up brought them into the black.
I've been driving Dodge and Rams for sixty years ( I am 79 and still going strong ). I wouldn't touch the overpriced junk they are turning out now with a ten foot pole.
I’m 69 and I agree, owned a few Dodge pick-ups, a van and a jeep. Went to buy a new one this year. Got a server case of sticker shock. I think I will just keep what I got for now.
@@martinbrian300 I Currently have a 2007 and a 2011. Plan on keeping them till the wheels fall off or I die whichever comes first. A lot of folks are buying decent older vehicles and putting a few thousand dollars in them. They end up with a good daily driver for about a third of the price of a new pile of junk and the insurance is cheaper.
Sheeeeeyit, I still drive a 73 Gremlin, 72 Hornet, and I have a Marlin that I'm looking to snag up....MADE IN KENOSHA....not KOREA
@@jimoconnor6382 ;-)
I put Chrysler products above any other new vehicles .I stay loyal to my brand
THEY FORGOT TO MENTION THE VEHICLES ARE TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE!!!!
50k for a cheap plastic Jeep with garbage Chinese Electronics.. junk!
Fire the ceo and the board
your funny
Jeep should be their own company, independent,and should go back to the roots of jeep,and put on options as buyers request,at a very great quality control, repair and replace parts for the buyers in the jeep market,, nobody is going to buy a 80K jeep!, that's a jeep owners opinion,Go JEEP!!!.
Chances are Stelantis killed Jeep.
At those prices, you can get a traditional luxury car.
People wanting a Jeep, especially the Wrangler, aren’t interested in luxury cars
👏👏👏👏👏
brother that is some wisdom there !! imagine jeep as its own company with configurations of vehicles that a struggling college kid or an affluent older guy could afford, options designed by our favorite aftermarket company but sold and warranties through jeep damn!!
The females that but the vast majority of new jeeps don't qualify as "people", they are just mindless bots following social trends.
All the car companies have priced themselves out of business
Yep. And a lot of people don’t need cars anymore, or maybe just one instead of two. Uber is pretty efficient and I can’t wait for full self driving to ACTUALLY become available.
I can’t believe humans have become so sorry they feel a need for self driving cars, how depressing.😢
@@Rhotz-ix8ll You want a self driving car? Ride on the bus.
@@Rhotz-ix8llSelf-driving only makes sense on the multi-lane Interstate. Driving in an urban environment or on the older US Numbered Highways (most of which are two-lane only) will still require human control. So dream on!
Pretty much.
It all boils down to the PRICES of Stellantis vehicles. When our lease on our 2020 Grand Cherokee was over I was looking forward to getting a Ram Rebel and that idea came to end when we saw the huge increase in prices. We ended up in the end just keeping the Grand Cherokee. Last week we went into a Jeep dealership for service work on the Cherokee and my wife fell in love with the Wagoneer until she saw the $110k price tag.
Why are we blaming the manufacturers for the switch to v6s from v8s? The Government is mandating this because of emissions regulations. Blame the Government.
Gm and ford still still sell v8s as standard options only dodge, ram, Nissan and Toyota went 6 cylinder. The Japanese trucks face the chicken Tax so their hand is forced. Dodge could just keep paying their fine or stop super charging their v8s to improve emissions.
@@HbEthan. Wrong, 2025 is the end of v8's in the USA, or maybe ya didn't hear? Hurricane I6 from dodge (they shoulda just gone back to the slant 6) v6 3.5 eco boost that is tuned super lean but gets 2 mpg more than a v8, so sad. And GM's cylinder deactivation shreds the engines. Great engineering so far ............ NOT.
Imagine that. Doing away with the v8 in favor of a straight 6 you can't check the oil on and a so called muscle car with fake exhaust sound 😅😂🤣. What did they expect? Stupid is as stupid does.
The 4.0 straight 6 was great. car design is not.
Yep I love those Hemis why do that when they got to their prime performance
@@dcpack the 4.0 had a dipstick!
What!? They actually made and engine you can't check the oil 😂. That's the most retar.ded thing I've ever heard in the automotive industry.
@@moparmadman1134 are the motors actually hemispherical heads ? I read somewhere that they aren't and they just use the name because it's patented and copyright protected.
The real problem is having a foreigner make decisions on what Americans want to drive.
That's just like Harley-Davidson got a German running their country and how about this Elon musk from South Africa don't you think it's time to get rid of all these foreigners CEOs
I agree.
It's worse. Checking his education and extensive automotive industry experience, Tavares SHOULD be expert on what the European market definitely DOESN'T want to drive. Somebody needs to look into that.
That is racist
@@teglaprbambaluftlaurvafhen5449
How is that racist? You are assigning a race to the word foreigner. How could you possibly not know there are all races outside of the United States? Stop filling in your blanks.
Stellantis should sell Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram back to American investors who know how to build quality cars. Under Fiat/ Stellantis, quality crashed.
Sorry, bub, but it never existed in the first place.
Quality? at Chrysler? They were already taken over by Daimler because their quality was the shits. (Daimler may have done them dirty, but their homegrown issues took them there in the first place.)
@@HarunRaffael Chrysler used to be a quality brand long before the Diamler fiasco. Mercedes hasn't manufactured reliable cars for over 40 years.
Tavares also needs to sell the rights to the Maxwell, Plymouth, De Soto, and Imperial names back to American investors alongside the currently-extant Chrysler brands. Oh how I would love to see new Maxwells or Plymouths in particular on the road!
The whole Chrysler universe (including Jeep) has been sinking for decades. Remember the alliances with Mercedes-Benz and then Fiat ? Stellantis got it all for peanuts cause that's what it was worth. With a typical new model R & D costs running a few billion dollars, a single brand and line such as Jeep could not raise enough capital and generate profits. Even well established brands like Subaru or Mitsubishi have to resort to sharing major components since they cannot afford development of their own. 😮😮
Stellantis’ boneheaded decision to drop the 5.7L Hemi and replace it with a 3.0L twin turbo six is going to cost them.
I agree those hemis are great engines in anything
I agree 100%. My current Jeep has a Hemi V8, and the lack of that option (coupled with the HUGE price increase) is why I haven't purchased a new Jeep vehicle.
I had to stop watching. I got tired of the "narrator" saying 'vate' instead of V8. Stupid AI narration
Artificially intelligent 😅
Remember no bail outs for them and the rest of the automakers.
When I think of Chrysler I think of Nash, Packard, Studebaker, Hudson, Corvair just to name a few.
100% agree let the market pick the winners.
Exactly this..they will try to make it political though and bail them out, the public needs to make sure we make it very clear that is not acceptable and would be a poor career choice voting for an auto bailout in ‘25, ‘26 or whenever it happens.
I’m ok with the Dutch government bailing them out. Stellantis is headquartered in the Netherlands after all.
@@steadysmv lol thats just for tax evasion, virtually nobody is employed by them in the country.
Since the pandemic their quality dropped off so far no one's going to buy, and they're not going to buy $75,000 Jeeps. I need to make a V8 pickup for $25k a Jeep 4 x 4 for $27k. And An affordable minivan $35k
Haha Walmart effect: you think you’re getting a good deal but it winds up in the trash
😂👍
Only if you are willing to work for $5.00 an hour. Love those good old days. :)
for those prices you get max a small chinese banger...
Maybe double those numbers.
What do they expect, shoddy overpriced vehicles and dealers adding thousands of " extra's " that no body wants.
AGREED!!! And they're STILL over priced..
They should have lowered the price on Fiats and continued to build them. Great gas mileage.
Not as shoddy as some of that foreign junk people love so much. Hyundai engines were failing under 30k just to name one. Nissan had the same issue for a while Toyota's were killing people for a while. Funny how people tolerate that from foreign car makers.
All summed up with........greed.
@@compassioncampaigner728
Yes, greed and gross corruption!!
They raised prices 50 % over five years. Inflation was19%over that time. Then markups for nothing but greed. It's over.
They price gouged the hell out of their car prices and then got rid of their best selling cars
Keys to success for Stellantis ( sarcastic)
1. Lower quality
2. Put Fiat stuff and badge it as Jeep
3. Put Fiat diesels in Ram
4. Inflate your prices to gouging level
5. Overproduce , have 300 days supply in the pipeline
6. Abandon your pirates aka dealers
7. Fail to fix things like oiling problems in the hemi, electrical issues and weak transmissions
To summarize
Poor engineering. Poor build quality. Bad dealers. Overproduce. Over priced. Treat your customers poorly..... Wow you have really screwed the pooch 🐶 🐕
100% accurate!
But apart from that they were spot on!
Seems to me that this could also apply to Ford and GM !
Fiat?
Nope
Very worst are Citroen stuff 🤢
F.I.A.T. fix it again tony.
I'm not paying $92,000 for a Dodge SRT Durango
There are bunch of surplus police units going cheep,just need an extensive overhaul
I wouldn't pay $40k
For the amount of three or four months of payments on a $60,000 new car I can do every repair and interior cleanup of a 25 year old car that doesn't track my every movement, and drive as far as across the country.
You can do a full on rebuild of everything on an older and more reliable car for half the cost of the new junk being sold.
We want 20-40k vehicles. With no bells and whistles. Not stealing your data and repairable.
Of course . It’s not just dodge. It’s bad all over just look at the crap all the auto companies are making junk overpriced engines breaking down bad parts treat customers like trash .Cars are over priced made with only the consumer getting ripped off stop buying people and force them to get real.
There was no shift in what people want. Stellantis stopped producing what people want when they stopped manufacturing the Hemi V8. Then they went all in on EVs, which less than 2% of the US population are interested in. On top of all that, they overpriced all of their vehicles by 30 to 40 thousand dollars. This is a perfect storm of stupidity by a European company about the US market.
It looks like the executives of Stellantis never understood what the american market is very different of the other markets, and never took care of the expectations of american customers, they probably thought that they Can offer the same low quality véhicules they do especially on the european market!
The Hemi was an over hyped sales pitch. Un knowing customers thought if they bought a new vehicle with a Hemi, they had something special. Little do they know, most engines these days are hemi design....
Nailed it.
A lot of people are simply looking at V8s in pick ups and non turbo engines for other vehicles. Simple, and effective.
The 392 Hemi is still available in the Jeep Wranglers.
It was supposed to be a special one-year model, but they keep extending it from the '23 model year, to the '24, and now '25.
People love it, but it is expensive, as well as being a fuel hog.
The problem is they haven’t gone all out on EV’s. They do lnot have a pulse on the market, realibility & quality is an issue. They decided to chase the 1% of consumers .
Dodge, Jeep, and Chrysler need to remove themselves from Stellantis
@@SneekyRafiki I agree
Stop the dealerships from adding $ 25.000.to the MSRP cost.
They don’t. Markup is generally pretty small on most new vehicles. This is all Stellantis screwing the customers.
They have gone up in price way too much. They weren't great sellers before. Now it's just not worth it.
The only hope for Chrysler is if it’s sold back to American ownership. Otherwise the countdown to end has begun.
You nailed it. There's no sense of Chrysler tradition, history, nor pride, on the part of the incredibly arrogant Carlos Tavares. He's poison. He doesn't give a rip about the American market and culture.
Keep adding a bunch of crap to the vehicles that people don't want. Then double the price .
Or let china take over
They would have to build quality reliable vehicles and that would take to much time and money. CDRJ is done.
Private Equity did such a fine job with Chrysler, lol!
It’s fine to offer $99000 trucks but make some every body can afford 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
That's like trying to talk horse sense to a group of jackasses
And one that does not need constant repair at any price
I'll keep my 1997 dodge 250 cummins 12 valve thank you
Their basic trims are 60-65 k with out a V8 😂
@@marklaumond5241yeah, my 97 dodge with the magnum v8 is still running great. I can easily leave it there for 6 months and it will start right up.
Over Priced Vehicles, nobody can afford!!!
The fact that the AI narrator can’t properly pronounce “V-8” is setting my teeth on edge.
The only persons surprised by this situation are the executives at Stellantis. They sell the public on the idea of buying an $80.k vehicle. When what we need is a $25k car. They build them in Europe. But will not sell them in the US. I personally can not afford to spend two years salary on a car.
The root cause of their sales tanking is because they jacked their prices up rediculously high after 2019. I'm sure a big part of their justification was to offset the loosing move to EV's.
ridiculous greedy prices along with highly suspect engineering of products that anyone with brain understand is going to break Just a matter of when not IF>>> Add to this that Stellantis is a EU based company that really could care less what they sell into the US market. So you are totally correct in your assessment of why sales are tanking
A lot of the blame lies with the government and their stupid regulations. There are so many unnecessary things on vehicles that add to the cost and add to things that can go wrong. Also, the government forcing EVs on us is another big mistake that also adds cost and manufacturers add markup to the gas vehicles to offset the losses on EVs.
@@stevepailet8258 in my area for lead the way with way more expensive than they needed to be. RAM was the one that was absolutely affordable, but that was in my area.
You hit the nail firmly on the head here, as the EV revolution ( implosion ) is happening now and all the car makers who went woke are all in trouble?
Good riddens to bad rubbish.
I bought a ICE vehicle as I refuse to go EV!!
Bidenomics is working.
That's why Kamala is ready to fix it day one.
Nobody has no idea what she's doing now.
Europeans thinking they are smarter than American consumers is the problem. Stallantis in a nutshell.
EPA demanding average fleet fuel consumption is the problem. Europeans buying US automotive companies cheap, is the result.
More like American consumers still buying 1970 muscle cars in the 21st century. If you need 30 gallon tanks to do the same mileage my hybrid with an 8 gallon tank does, that's the problem. Complain about gas price and still buying a 10 miles a gallon SUV or truck.
@@snafufubar That has nothing to do. It is unimportant if i need 5 or 100l fuel. Prices are just stupidly high because some people still think that the "established parties" do anything for them. And im from Germany. Here is fuel about 70 cent per Liter. But i have to pay around 1,76 €. That is just stealing in my book. The fuel consumption has nothing to do with the Problem. And dont forget. His 70s Muscle car has 4 times the power of your Hybrid and will possibly last way longer than your computerized Application. And i bet he has fun driving while you just drive. Oh and dont forget, your little hybrid cost as much as a real car did 20years ago.
@@derstrohmann7450 The Toyota Prius typically runs trouble-free for almost 500,000 kilometers. Their transmissions never fail. Ask any Toyota mechanic if they have ever replaced a Prius transmission. They will say "none." I guess you like burning your money up out the tailpipe. Driving a car that uses only 4 liters/100km is like driving for free, and that is fun as heck. I work too hard for my money to drive a non-hybrid.
@@derstrohmann7450 If his Muscle Car has four times more power than the Hybrid, it has 75% more power than anybody needs. Just look at these perverse monstrosities produced by Ram. Anybody who thinks that his fun should come out of driving a fucking tank around should pay the proper fortune for it. And decadent extreme hobbies like that don't fuel mass sales, because the majority of people have never been that daft and never will. Don't expect mass sales from an absurd niche product.
The worst decision the CEO of Stellantis made is to take away the buyers choice of engines. They force buyers into buying the 6 cylinder TT without giving them a choice. They should have kept the 5.7 & 6.4 on the option list for the 1500 & 2500 series. Not too mention, most buyers can't afford a 100k+ truck. FCOL I was looking at a 2024 regular cab 1500 tradesman 4x4 with the 5.7 and the dealer wanted 56k for it!
The dealer can " want" all they want. What the typical American buyer wants is a reliable, reasonably priced vehicle. You know, like a Toyota Corolla.
how. many buyers could tell the difference if the opened the hood to look? I would guess half of drivers cant even open the hood.
Azzhats like you that think every car is a truck are probably one of the reasons Chrysler/Stellantis found themselves in this mess in the first place.
Fully loaded crew cab gas truck should cost 30k. Same truck with a diesel 45k. Go back to 4 yr loans. 6 and 7 yr loans is absolutely ridiculous.
For me, it is first reliability and then price. I do love the look of many of their vehicles, but I drive cars for at least 6 years and one I have driven 16 years, so I am looking for a reliable and durable car/truck. These cars and trucks have suspect reliability and durability and prices that are just unaffordable.
Stellantis is now an european company, Us government has no obligation to bail it out using tax money, RIGHT?
There is a LOT of things our government shouldn't pay for but does. That said, any bailout must require domestic ownership and divestment by Stellantis.
frist place all there cars and trucks are way overpriced. that one reason there not selling. and put tax and fees. and building cars and trucks nobody wants. there going to let the market place sort it out. might take a few years.
"Sort it out" means "out of business"....
Without v8 engines Dodge / Chrysler and Ram are irrelevant
I owned 2 Chrysler vehicles. A Dodge van that the transmission went out at 70,000 miles and a Chrysler convertible that the timing belt tensioner went out at 70,000 miles. Today I own my second Toyota Highlander with no problems. One with 177,000 miles and a second with 70,000 miles. And a Honda S2000 with 80,000 miles with no problems.
Car sales are lagging because of the prices of new vehicles. Interest rates aren't helping either.
Over priced on MSRP and crazy ADM will be the death of the brand for sure.
Thanks but no thanks, I’ll just hang onto my ‘17 Ram Sport “with a HEMI”.
Yup, my 17 Ram is nearing 180,000 miles. Trouble free, gonna keep driving her.
Same here with my 2015 Ram Bighorn. Nothing wrong with it.
Post -'18 RAMs may not have the technical support of the earlier ones, either. The brain trust is gone at corporate...
I agree ! I recently purchased a 2010 Challenger R/T, B-5 Blue, 6-speed tremec, pistol grip . 1 owner , original paint 42,000 mi. Perfect Carfax . $ 19,500. The stellantis dealer near me has more new cars than they have room for. The used or trade ins have been shuffled around from lot to lot. Every time they move them to make space , the discount on the windshield goes up another $500. My previous cars, 68 440 charger, 64 Plymouth wagon ( Hemi) drag car. 69 GTX 440 (restored). Walter P. Chrysler is rolling over in his grave.
I'm going to drive my 2014 Ram until it won't go anymore. New ones are stupid expensive and don't seem that much better.
Stellates thought, The American market was going to be their Cash cow, man did they get an awakening.
In 2016 a Jeep Grand Cherokee was 29,000 Now they are $75,000
When the minivan saved Chrysler it had a low dollar option. That market has been ignored by all automakers.
Low sales numbers to some extent must also be attributed to dealership mark-ups.
And the service at the dealership is shady and way overpriced and like to add a ton of issues that don’t exist to clueless customers!!!
100% correct. Greedy dealerships are playing a huge role in CDJR downfall. Let them go under. No bailouts.
@@gordoncook7613Amen. The dealerships do not value their customers let's start there. Customers can shop with their feet as in walking away
Remember supply and demand? I HATE these new cars!
@@elgastsos210 So you want no GPS, no ABS, manual steering, etc ? And I guess nothing to reduce pollution. And of course it is political...
@@didierpuzenat7280pipe down beta, we know you’re a church mouse in real life and a lion on the internet. 😂🤡
@@didierpuzenat7280yes, yes, yes, yes, and I also want a manual transmission
@@dominickboardman4474 Don't forget the cranks to open the windows, and a big one to start the vehicle.
The dealers sucked right in, no excuses for price gouging the public! The dealers should have put their feet down. All B.S. you will ALL now go down! You should not have Fk,,,,d the public!
Bad quality, expensive, bad management
I’m still a Jeep fan. But it’s tough for a senior like me. I have to fund my retirement 😢 instead of buying a new Jeep. They really need to lower the cost of new vehicles to $30,000 if they want to sell cars. Their costs are waaaaaaay too high or they are being too greedy.
Ugh...had to quit watching when the voice over kept saying wait engines instead of v8 engines....awful.
AI drivel. Even if you had only a passing knowledge of vehicle construction, you'd be able to fix that error. Obviously, no industry expertise here.
Is that what he was saying! How about the ford one hundred and fifty
Vait
Thank you. I was wondering what that AI announcer was trying to say.
Stellantis must have created the voice over. They messed that up too 😂
The CEO must be fired.
You folks that are in the business of manufacturing and sales fully understand the problems are over paid management over priced cheaply built vehicles that seem to be pledged with a multitude of serious problems. The recall is discussing plus a shortage of parts to fix the issues that should have never left the manufacturers. The ridiculous amount of internal problems in many of the manufacturers. Next the manufacturer builds vehicles that nobody wants to be stuck with for 3-4 years of high interest and again over priced junk. We the buyers are fed up with your childish games. You can keep your crap vehicles and all the problems that seem to be built in them on purpose.
To work on new vehicles i needed a 800.00 scanner and wire tracer and many hrs of figuring out codes and fixes .getting so complex dealers cant fix thier own vehicle's . i just did top end gmc and delete the fuel management which is taking out lifters push rods and cams .you gonna pay a dealer 6000.00 to get a exstra 2 miles per gallon on repairs . I did the repair for 500.00 but a dealer would have charged 6000.00 who can pay to fix thier veihica's .
Yep... no "mechanics" anymore... only "IT" guys LoL. You know you are going to have problems when you get a flat tire, take it off to get patched and when you put it back on get dash warnings of "Tires not recognized" and have to reprogram them to the car.... TIRES. Every piece on a car has a computer chip in it now. Can't replace a broken side mirror or door handle without having to get the dealer to reprogram it to the car. Just crazy.
@@jspera4187 yes has me to where i just want to go back to a antique truck .
The Jeep Wrangler died in 2007. Who puts a grill made of plastic on a $60k+ on a Wrangler Rubicon? It is like they build unreliable cars on purpose thinking they can force customers to buy another new car every 5-6 years.
Biggest issue is reliability and quality control, and cost per performance.
Stop chasing electrification and produce vehicles people want at prices people can afford. When you put all of this together with high interest rates no wonder they aren’t selling.
NO ELECTRIC VEHICLES
I'll pay 100k for a Truck but it better have minimum 200k mile warranty.
That's not enough I had 260,000 miles on a 2004 Chevy Cavileer only regular maintenance and normal upkeep. Did a head gasket and recharged the A/C one time.
For example, why not bring the Fiat Fullback to the U.S. market? I'm afraid if they do they'll price it on par with their full size trucks.
I wont. Sitting in a deanships service department is not what I want to do.
Warranty is not going to help they can’t fix them anyway Just have to bite the bullet and buy something pre 2012 and have it recommissioned and drive it till it stops that might cost $30000 but you’ll know what you have and they will be repairable. Not this new junk that spy’s on you and turns you in to the dealer if you hit 70 mph .
@Kawasaki750H2stroke i mean these things won't last forever. You'll eventually need maintenance. 200k miles is a lot if you think about it..from a warranty perspective.
Their vehicles are overpriced garbage cans anyways. Go outta business, sooner the better.
If they want their market back build non turbo, manual transmission low tech electronic vehicles, get the prices down no one want or needs a vehicle over $40,000
I’ve been a Dodge,Chrysler,Plymouth,
Jeep fan/driver my whole life but would not consider buying another new one now until some major changes are made. Stelantis has pretty much ruined them along with the help of government regulations.
European executives 😂
following the american way of doing things, bit of a boeing scenario
@@fredjansen2659
I agree. Europeans have always followed America. Socialists aren’t that bright.
Euro-weenies and globalists spell doom for American consumers
The electronic engineers has taken over the Big Three and that’s why all North American vehicles are in a mess . Most of them don’t work in northern climate. Electronics control all the mechanical operations … batteries go dead in winter , door locks gets frozen, no key entry , engine runs rough ; all those electrical systems piss me off in the middle of winter and manufactures made me take the piece of cr**t into the dealership to reset the computer .
Greed!!! Outprice customers, what a novel concept. 😂
Stopped listening when robodoofus
kept saying "vates" . Realized it
was supposed to be " V-8 's " 🤦♂️
And THEN🤦♀️ the CREATOR - GENERATED
captioning printed it as "weights" !!
⚠️ CREDIBILITY PLUMMETED
to SUB-Basement Level ⚠️
Low effort, AI generated trash.
I wondered what a vate was, thanks for telling us,
No doubt
I drove Ram Trucks for 20+ years, in 2020 I purchased a new Ram 2500 Laramie with the Cummins and after it stayed broke down 4 months the 1 1/2 years I owned it with Emission problems and Stellantis wouldn't fix or couldn't fix it I dumped it!! I couldn't even use it to pull our 5TH wheel and travel. Never Buying anything from Stellantis again. Never Never Never AGAIN, Awful Experience🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
When dealerships are charging 50-60k over MSRP for a Helicat and they want almost 50k for a hornet could be an issue!!!! They are greedy fools!!!!
Overpaid CEOs. Nobody wants $100,000 pieces of crap Jeeps. Chrysler cars are poorly made. High horsepower however week body
Their cars, SUVs and Trucks are having major issues like oil cooler fires and catastrophic engine failures. There's police departments who have Dodge Durangos which are just a few years old and they are getting rid of the whole fleet because the vehicles are so badly made. The company is ignoring their requests for a solution.
If you need the police for a emergency and they are driving a Dodge, there's a chance the vehicle will break down in a life or death situation.
Avoid Stellantis Automobile company
A shame to lose an American Icon to foreign mismanagement!👎
Since COVID I have moved to a remote job with a home office. Yes, I travel internationally much more....but usually take the train to the airport. Instead of filling up my tank at least once a week, I am down to a fill-up no more than once per month! My car...gets driven to the local grocery store twice a week and to the nearby train station maybe three times per week. The rest of the time, it stays nicely tucked away in the garage. Why buy a new car? It's paid off and is well maintained.
I wonder if a reduction in daily office commutes has cut into new car sales....or simply put off the need for a new car/truck purchase for those struggling with the inflation of daily consumables.
Same here. My 10 year old 150k miles FJ cruiser looks fine, drives fine, garaged at home and work, goes off road and has been paid for two years ago. Why buy a new vehicle. Mine is Japan made and ultra reliable. House paid off , vehicles paid off, empty nester. Money added into high yield accounts. Retired. Got lucky. Maybe a2023 used 4 runner in the future. Paid for in cash. Life is good.
Unions demanded 30% pay increase. Now no one can afford their cars
40 million to the ceo? Or 70 thousand for production workers? Which do you think raises prices more?
@erikwallrath893 both of them
Over 5 years..... only unions are keeping up wages w inflation. Non union workers are getting 2-5%
How about?
Fire that CEO and demand that money back. Because he did just the opposite of his job. Committing corporate sabotage.
Forcing the workers to overbuild vehicles and not dropping the prices. And cutting jobs having those components added onto others over cycling the jobs forcing through the vehicles sabotaging quality and eliminating quality inspection jobs. Taking away quality bonuses thereby giving no incentive to the workers to even care about quality.
And completely cutting overtime to the workers who actually buy the products that they cannot afford to buy what they build now.
He made it quantity over quality.
Which is death to any product.
It's simple.
1 Drop the prices.
2 . CEOs take a pay cut for once. Trust me they can afford it..
3 Stop asking the workers to sacrifice and embrace poverty "Sergio" when it's all they ever do while busting their asses.
And not get paid back.
4 make quality before quantity.
5 bring back WCM.
The Stellantis board needs to conduct a hostile takeover and oust him as ceo , the sharholders should declare a no confidence vote.
Arrogant French ownership with no knowledge or vision of North American consumer demand or needs. Not a good marriage.
Fiat is Italian, not French.
French arrogant?? Is grass green? 🤣
@@richardeldridge5305Fiat doesn't own Chrysler. They sold it to Stellantis
“No replacement for Displacement”
💙🇺🇲 One word... Greed! Discusting Corporation greed is the cause of hard working under paid workers to be fired. 😡
When the CEO of Stellantis came out and announced Jeep is now a Luxury brand! I won a jeep, Luxury is not a word I would use for it. Stellantis has raised priced 50 percent since the pandemic.
Make junk... time to weld the doors shut
I just bought a new 2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited this past August, w/the 6-speed manual transmission, and the 3.6L V6 engine.
I went and checked on any Recalls, and there were none.
With a Window Sticker Price of $59K, I was able to get it for around $50K.
With just 1500 miles on it, it's now sitting at the dealer waiting for a new replacement transmission. One of the synchro's failed. At the moment, they haven't a clue of just when that will happen, but I've got a free loaner in the meantime.
There's now talk of another Recall for the '24 Jeep's Dash Displays come October.
Vehicles are too expensive, they've been that way for a long time.. decades. People are fed up.
I would love to have a bad ass SRT wide body Charger in my Garage, But the Dealer Greed markup + already too expensive price tag makes it a real deal breaker !
My dad worked retired for Chrysler after 32 years. My brothers have worked at Chrysler since 88 and the other is an engineer since 96. That being said I wouldn’t buy a new Chrysler vehicle now
They added 25-30% to prices, quality went down and they got rid of good selling models with nothing to replace them with. They are still using a gen 4 cab on the HD trucks and the jeeps are pretty much unchanged since 18.
It's a good thing that the UAW workers got there raise.
Not sure how much longer they will be getting paid.
The engineering and price point is what will put this company out of business. Not the employees wages.
@@kentmorton2872price point and build cost have a relationship in the financials. Average cost of a build for a base model is 90% of its retail price.
@@kentmorton2872 Umm, yah kinda, they're competing against foreign manufactures whose labor costs (for good or bad, their workers are basically slaves) are a fraction of what the domestic manufacturers have to pay in wages and benefits. I'm not saying it's pretty, or right, but manufacturing costs are what they are. Unless you can make them cheaper... you can't sell them cheaper. It's that or bankruptcy.
@@jspera4187 That is a race to the bottom. Because the American workers can't compete with slave wages. And the workers they are competing with cannot buy American cars.
I think they all have it wrong
To much tech that breaks and is making the cars over priced and not enough useful performance we want go anywhere do anything trucks
Bought a used FJ cruiser in 2017. Since then I've had to replace the battery.