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Mike Mangini is not only a great drummer, but a very kind & humble man!
Much more important than the drumming
Mangini is no accent king
Mangini is the one who opened my eyes to Incredible drumming 20+ years ago. The things I saw him do just blew my mind and lit a fire under me to play. He’s incredible and hasn’t slowed down with age
having finally seen him live I can honestly say Mike Mangini is on of the most musical drummers I have ever heard
Incredible player Bill
Mike has always been one the most efficient and effortless drummers I’ve ever seen. I was super happy when he landed the DT gig.
Ditto! His history with the guys is cool - seeing them as students at Berkley, then playing alongside them after they blew up. Seemed meant to be.
@@Focusedfelix Mike has also played on James LaBrie solo albums. IMO these are better than his work with DT.
I wanted marco
@@aelechko Marco and Lang were both incredible, but I think Marco would have been wasted in DT. He's got a special vibe behind the kit - big ass smile, and his tremendously melodic playing (the dude makes the most hippity odd meter sound like butter). Mangini feels like the Druminator 2000, and I think that works for DT.
@@alextemperley2544 I'll check them out! I'm not too much of a fan of modern Jamie so I avoided them - man had the voice of an angel, 's bit rough now.
Might not be my favourite drummer in the world but after watching a few of his videos and breakdowns his knowledge, skill, passion and positive attitude are undeniable. Musical genius.
And as you watch him, keep in mind that he can still do this at over 60 years old! MIke is one of the best drummers ever, and one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.
"A lifetime worth of study in one song"... then consider the entire album, as well as the other 4 albums Mike has done wit DT is full of this level of epic drumming. Unimaginable!!
Mangini is an absolute animal. I've grown tired of people comparing him to Portnoy, etc. This man is actually insane, the double bass runout at 2:55 is full on blast beat. I love the texture he brings to DT these days, heavy and tasteful. He didn't "fill in" for Portnoy, he started a new chapter for DT.
Absolutely! He was friends with Portnoy before he knew the rest of the band.
i could not believe that was double bass, i saw live videos of his with DT, fucking drum master
Times change I guess!
Portnoy is Back and to be fair I am happy, Mike Mangini is amazing but it is missing what made it DT , I don't blame him for that as John Petrucci has been writing all the Music but what made everyone miss MP was he brought his musical tastes into the Band and was the co writer with John so when MP was loving say Muse you could hear the influence in the songs or if he was digging Modern Metal you get Train of Thought plus he was the concept guy so you don't get Scene's from a Memory or any of the Album's that felt like one cohesive piece
Mangini can hopefully find a Gig playing with someone just as big or bigger.
But MP being back feels like Dream Theater again to me.
@@andysalter7192 No concept albums without Portnoy? Ever heard of The Astonishing?
This man had already taken Dream Theater’s drumming and music to new heights. Speaking as a drummer, I can say that the drumming on JUST THIS SONG is without a shadow of a doubt the most complicated playing he has done for Dream Theater yet, and is so far out of the ball park, this track will live in drumming legend for decades to come. Truly unbelievable. As someone else has said, the fact that he was a professor at Berklee is, on this track, glaringly obvious. You could write a thesis on the drumming in this track, covering the rhythms utilised, sympathetic voice application to the track (hats, stacks, ride, etc), left right lead and switching (hand and feet), multiple simultaneous time signatures (keeping the groove while following other instruments with one hand), power and control, the list goes on - all for 9 minutes of prog drumming. This stuff is truly seminal, and the playing on this track is a landmark in drumming history.
Easily my #1 fav drummer.
Literally favorite Drummer. Mike is an absolute machine.
He is amazing.
Oh man you... you didn't know Mike Mangini ?!?! It´s impossible! Mike Mangini is one of the most incredibles drummers and also musician of all time. Before Dream Theater he played with a lot of bands! Steve Vai maybe was the most known (probably also the Extreme band where he played a few years)! He is a monster! He is also one of the best drum teachers ever at Berklee College of Music in Boston! Please... check more things about him... he is a mind blowing drummer
I agree
Also played on Labries first solo album 👌
Wonder what the older drummer would have done here
Absolutely. What scares me most is how effortless it seems...A mindfuck! 😐😐😐
Listen the man admitted he hadn't heard Ian Paice......quoted in th-cam.com/video/NKScO8nkp7A/w-d-xo.html. 'nuff said.
You should totally check out the Mike Mangini drum solo with the 2002 Steve Vai show! Its one of the most entertaining solos to watch imo. I don't know much of technical drum stuff but I can feel that his performance and character just make it so fun
He's not even human in that solo. A must watch, imo.
It's a Must !!
Yes i agree soo much that one was soo cool
The time before he became human.. Originally he is an alien
I saw a video of Mike doing a workshop. He had two drumsets. One was a right hand set the other a left hand set. He would just move back and forth between them with perfect, equal facility regardless of which set he was playing.
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Fantastic reaction and thanks for doing it. Glad you caught the 110% speed part which makes it even more impressive. Mike’s economy of motion is really evident on his live drum cam of Pale Blue Dot. It’s insanely technical and yet he makes it seem like simple 4/4. It’s mind-blowing how someone can consistently invent these drum parts. 🤯
Guys blasting so hard he has to wear safety glasses 😂 Legend
HAHA!
Loved your comment Andrew of "A lifetime's worth of study in one song". The other thing that melts my brain is this is ONE SONG from, say, a 2.5-3 hour set!
Exactly Scott.
Mind blowing to think of this level playing for an entire show
My favorite thing about your channel is being able to watch someone enjoy something that thoroughly makes them happy. Every video I can tell that you sincerely love drumming.
Keep up the good work. Cheers.
You know you're world class when you can fool people into thinking what you're doing is easy while playing some of the most technical drum parts on earth while making it look like you're picking broccoli snot from your teeth.
There's a pattern that the playing style of the masters that are in the epitome of their craft is always calm, collected and looks effortless
Yup. Agree!
Agreed. Just like Gavin Harrison.
Very much like Akane from Band Maid.
More impressive every time I see him play. What a beast.
Great that you noticed he holds the stick so high. His signature stick isn't like any other stick. It's actually heavier at the neck than it is at the butt end. I play them and the speed power I'm able to generate with them is amazing. You can hold the stick half way up and it'll still rebound so well. Give them a try brother. G'day from Sydney
I had heard of Mangini replacing Portony, and having been a big fan of the latter, I did not know what to expect...
Well, Mangini filled those huge shoes and then some! A monster, MONSTER of a drummer, with perfect technique and fantastic musicality who, on top of it all, and as you have rightly observed, makes it all look so easy. Absolute master!
I first saw Mike playing with Steve Vai His musicality The complete control of every movement effortless Met him great personality Amazing talent
Mike is a consumate technical drummer. What you might not know is that he is a Professor of Percussion at Berkley College of Music in Massachusetts and has set records for his speed. He's no joke!
You should check out his video for Untethered Angel! It's raw sound from the room (from what I can tell) with very low backing track. Pure, unmolested sexy drums! He even says it's in his top 10 hardest songs to play.
Hey Andy its Matt. Thanks for the live lesson yesterday. I said I was leaving but I stuck around and I'm glad I did cuz it gave me good pointers to help out my left hand drumming. MANGINI ROCKS!
Hey Matt!
Look forward to seeing you on the next lesson!
I saw him in Nashville for pearl drums high-end reimagined event...amazing
Mr.Mangini what a legend. The parts of the song when he executes the Fills so perfectly. It looked like he was just waving a wand over the Toms like a wise wizard... Nice viewer request, u cant go wrong with drumming legends...
Mike Mangini is my favourite drummer, his work on Annihilator was amazing
First time I saw Mike play was on Steve Vai's Fire Garden tour back in 97 or 98.
I'm a guitar player (primarily), but the first instrument I learned was piano, and Mike motivated me to learn the drums after seeing that live performance.
The drum solo that Steve cut him loose for was the most insane drum permormance I've ever seen.
This man is a living breathing robot. It is so impressive to watch him play. Flawless.
Man these videos make me happy. Drumming is such a big part of life for me.
Mike Mangini or not the top of any top 10 list should always be dream dinner
Everybody bows down to Neil Peart, but I gotta say Mangini is the Man! I just think Mike, by virtue of DT's genre', writes more complex stuff than Peart did. I always thought Neil's genius was because he was not only an amazing drummer, but chief lyricist.....and the songs were incredible, because his words were.
I think alot of the respect neil earned was because nobody else was playing such complex and intricate parts in rock back in the 70s and 80s
DT’s main inspiration is Rush. I feel like no one can come after Neil but there are people that can take what Neil did originally and build upon it. Rush was so far ahead of their time. And now DT is way ahead of our time
Without a doubt, one of the sickest drum performances I have ever heard. Masterful.
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Mangini, Nicko and Aldridge are my top 3 favorite drummers.. So stoked you finally got around to checking this master out. He's flawless in everything he does. He just might be an alien..
He could be Ryan
Mangini is so good and what an incredible track.
I had heard a lot of his stuff, but had not seen him play... WOW!!! He's a machine; very efficient, strong yet elegant at the same time...
Before Mike joined Dream Theater, he had a job teaching at Berklee.
Is it any surprise that not only can he play his ass off, but that he can do it with some of the most polished technique around? To get that teaching gig, he HAD to have the kind of stuff that could mostly be taught, that was transferable to others. Because transferring that was his job. He couldn't be a Buddy Rich - flailing all over the place, but it somehow came out sounding perfect because of his one-in-a-billion physical gifts. Also, Mike's a small guy playing a big kit, so he has to be controlled.
Mike has always had some of the coolest kit configurations among prog drummers. a true scientist behind the skins. great vid! Also PLEASE do a react to: Carlos Cruz of WARBRINGER- Crushed Beneath The Tracks he is a monster and that video only scratches the surface but he deserves to be on the radar.
Think that what you meant by "in control" could be also expressed by "economy of motion" - in the sense of not lifting the stick any more higher than one needs in order to subsequently hit the next note exactly at the power one needs, therefore distributing / economizing the power / motion. That makes the playing look visually much easier than it in fact is, not just for drums but for a lot of instruments. I think Kai Hahto also said somewhere that when he was already pretty established, he took lessons from some drummer and that the thing he learned at a relatively advance point in his career is that the space between the hits is just as important as the hits themselves, which I think is a nod to what is at stake here. ;-)
It takes exceptional levels of control to achieve all of the aspects that you itemised.
@@Virvum_Juggernaut true as well
Jim Chapin explains how most drummers including this guy had some sort of arm pain or surgery, if the bottom of your palm✋ is facing out during your accent or stroke, u are directly rubbing the carpel ligament on the tunnel, molar technique addresses this, any drummer in the know uses a hybrid molar type of stroke..
@@tommodeski8637 think that might enhance the stress on economization, also in the sense of not over-working damaged / post-injury muscles, ligaments, etc. But hey, I was just making a suggestion of a term that might fit together with control.
@@tommodeski8637 (or as a substitute)
Fantastic drummer! I like how he plays the snare on the up stroke.
Well spotted
Definitely need to watch his performance of Steve Vai's Fire Garden Suite. Absolutely mind-melting speed and compositional awareness.
One of the best drummers in the world. Thanks for reaction :)
These dream theater guys play for 3 hours a show, I imagine they’ve perfected their techniques to economize movement so they can play at the top of their craft all night and for the rest of the tour
You know you're good when you make look easy an insane thing
i was waiting for this one . He is a beast
I don't know dick about drums, but I somehow stumbled upon your reaction to Tomas Haake playing Bleed. Now I'm going further and further down the rabbit hole. Really enjoy your videos, and looking forward to this one! Hope you have a great day.
Thanks Eric! 👊
Practices it faster so it's easier to play it live! Amazing
Good tip isn't it :)
Words cannot describe just how sick Mike's performance is? "Ok it's just "F-ING INSANE! 💪🥁😁
Great choice....thank you! Dude's a machine!
The craziest thing is that not only does he lead with the left, but he plays directly as a left-hander on his feet as well. Great reaction BTW
Crazy! 🤯
So many things with this video and this song/album. First of all, this version is actually in 242 BPM instead of the original 220. That makes it even more insane. This guy is a beast! Mike Mangini aka Mike Machini... Also, let´s not forget John Petruccis guitar tone. Gives me goose bumps when the solo kicks in. Andy Sneap who mixed this album did an absolutely outstanding job!
Mike Mangini, also one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. He’s lots of fun at cookouts (Seriously)
Mike is a beast!!! A true master of the kit. Another guy that has the ability to switch from left to right lead is Simon Phillips. I've seen Mike with Steve Vai on the G3 tour and also
with the band UK. He is the perfect fit for Dream Theater.
He's by far the best drummer on the planet and in the history of music.
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Just simply, another level!🙏🏻
Legend!
I think the info on the video is meant to say that Mike practice the song at 110% the original speed. I suppose that's at good way to get the control for the songs in their original tempo.
Right on Robert
And they won a Grammy for that song 👍
My two favourite Mangini performances are his rehearsal vid of the Steve Vai song "Here And Now" (with Devin Townsend on vocals, Terry Bozzio played on the album), and his solo piece as a member of Extreme before he joined Vai's band. The latter performance is just crazy good.
Great suggestions here. I hope to get to them
saw mike live in malaysia when he was touring with steve vai. good times.
Hey man, when was this? I was able to see Mike when DT came to KL but my biggest regret is when I missed his drum clinic in KL.
If you get a chance, check out his pedal setup! Some time ago I saw his full DT tour setup, and I believe he had a kick on each side, 3 remote hat pedals on the left and I think 2 on the right. I assume trhey were all remote hat pedals anyway. Mike has phenomenal control. His dynamics and precision are over the top!
He is super super clean. Masterful
Oh yeah…. frigging amazing 😱. “This is what happens when you hire a drum 🥁 teacher/ professor 👨🏫 from BERKLEE, to be in the baddest Prog Metal Band, on the Planet 🌎!” Mike is an “Alien” on them skinz 😂
Best drummer Dream Theater has ever had!!
Mangini is absolutely incredible and humble about it.
A man worth emulating. A hero for the drumming community.
he makes it look so easy, so efortless..... you know one is great when he does that
Not taking anything from Portnoy but Mangini is a a drumming machine. Would love to see them both play together at a concert. That would be an awesome show.
That happened in 2002 on the bootleg "When Mike and Mike Unite" They played Take the Time together on MP's Siamese Monster kit. th-cam.com/video/ZAg28eh8AN4/w-d-xo.html
For my taste Mangini is too much of a machine. I really enjoyed his drummer with Steve Vai though.
That'll do, Mangini. That'll do.
Another thing is amazing in Mike Mangini is of course the orquestration that he puts into the music that he general plays. At the past you see the same level at Steve Vai songs. I don't know if know this... but he have the record of speed of hands and feets at "drummers world". Check that contest in TH-cam. I have already been in a workshop at 2009... he is a alien drummer!
He was providing great orchestration even with Annihilator and there was really not much place there :-)
This is amazing!!!!!🤯
Absolutely amazing drummer and the coolest guy too… you should interview him ..
Mike is 58 years old too. Still pushing it.
Yes, Mike Mangini is a machine. His play is very mechanical like a drum machine! Exactly what you said it feels like he could play music with twice as many notes no problem!
"A life time"...amazing
Yes Matheus!
I have the signature stick of mike called Wicked piston. and his stick is balanced in such a way that there fulcrum low on the stick and high.
as well as it's an acorn tip. up against a 5A long the tip of the long is up to the beginning of the tip
Thanks for the info!
I know this is video is a year old but I just wanted to explain the reason in the beginning Mike is high up on the stick.
His signature sticks are bit different from tradition sticks. First, they’re very front heavy so to make it easier to play faster you choke up on the stick. Secondly, there’s also a couple narrow areas made into the stick for different fulcrum points. Third, the sticks themselves are almost twice as heavy as a normal 5a stick. It must be some particular hickory that Vater uses. I use these sticks also and I actually had to kind of relearn how to drum with these sticks because they are so odd feeling at first try.
Please check out Mike Mangini's Annihilator Studio Session clip. It's 2 minutes of just pure speed.
Hi, first of all your videos are amazing! Personally it makes me pay attention more to the drum parts now, it is really interesting to learn more about it! :)
You should check drum solos of Tetsuya Amano, the drummer of Crossfaith. Incredible drummer, rarely saw a talent like this.
Have a great day!
Thank you!
I hope to get to this drummer :)
I love this is a tour prep video. A lot of people don't understand how hard real musicians work to get to that place where you and 40,000 of your friends end up at that stadium show. These guys put in thousands of hours of repetition, doing this when they are playing in bars and tiny clubs.
"How do you get to Carnegie hall? --- PRACTICE"
I’ve seen DT twice and his concert kit dwarfs this kit. He has his cymbals so high because he hangs them above him!! He’s amazing! I do wish I’d seen Portnoy live. Great reaction and comments. I felt the same watching him in concert!! Jaw dropping talent!
You can still see Portnoy live! He’s doing work with several interesting bands. It’s just too late to see him with DT.
@@rdoursenaud he is an amazing drummer! I’ll be looking for his concerts close to me!!
I've always had a fondness for what I've always called reverse fills/rolls! It's just, not necessarily a unique sound but, one that's not always prevalent or "right" in songs. As always, great review sir! 🤘🏼💙🤘🏼
It stands out as of course we always descend logically
Gavin Harrison regularly incorporates reverse rolls in his fills. I’ve always dug them too.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums the beginning of Avenged Sevenfold's -"The Stage" , Brooks Wakerman goes bananas with descending and reverse rolls that you might wanna check out in your spare time (which may take a bit as it's a lengthy song)
I've been fortunate to work with some freaky guitarist's over the past ten years. A lot of these guys played Yngwie inspired arpeggio passages and some of my fills needed to follow them. That was some fun stuff!
I have a couple on the song Letting Go by Bloodline Riot. Unfortunately the producer / engineer shit all over that track. There is one obvious sextuplet fill where I ascended that he turned into 32nds. I was furious, but the producer was dangling carrots in front of the band leader.
Good news is that that band leader has a new project, and we're going into the studio to record new material, where I'm doing a few of those fills.
I think I even did a couple on Teargas In August by Dave Coutts. He used to sing for the first STP side project, Talk Show. It's his first release on a label. I think someone posted it here on TH-cam...
Anyways, I typically do that when following a guitar passage that warrants it. With that Bloodline Riot track were specifically going for a "prog-esque" moment.
@@jangles1839 - Brooks is an absolute monster. Love his playing.
Mangini is a living breathing drum machine. He could do this at 130% or 140% with the same level of control and clarity.
BTW Sebastian Lanser dropped a playthrough of their latest single Iconic. It's only at 100% but.. you know Sebastian.
Only full speed? Meh...
LOL!
As you mentioned the words "so melodic " ,at beginning of song b4 the vocals ,DT does what DTs always been known for ,reimagining certain breaks from already known songs ,and playing them out in their music ,and right here is a tribute ,or homage to MP ,by sticking in a touch of the song "Hells Kitchen",from our fave DT album ,"FALLING INTO INFINITY".
JUST a heads up ,and its brilliant.
Mike Mangini is an alien, and this is the song of his people.
Regarding his stick height and control, I think he gets a lot of power in his strokes because his technique is derived from his upper and lower arm muscles. It's not the typical technique most people use. I could be wrong, but I think that could be it.
There are so many incredible elements of this but just how in sync his kick is with the bass is mind blowing given what he is doing independently with his hands. God tier playing.
Yes Phil!
He used to have his drums higher than his setup there, as high as his crashes(hats even more higher). And his reason is, so that the overhead mics don't get the signals from the drums and whilst the drum mics don't with the cymbals.
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It's absolute drum porn. Mike mangini is a master of his craft. You would have to be to be in dream theater. Music nerds wet dream! Awesome as expected!
I really respect (love) Mike Portnoy, but I don´t think he can play at this level of complexity. This dude (Mangini) is a machine!!!
I really enjoy watchin' your videos... But damn, the "Andew rooney drums" always hittin' my eyes haha.
Can you do more Mike Mangini reacts video, please?
I LOVE Mike Mangini. Not only is his drumming very entertaining and musical, but he seems to be an awesome person.
He also plays with tree trunks, those sticks are HEAVY. Pretty sure he's a 2B guy last he told me.
Damn!
The grip area is around a 5A (.580), but towards the upper shaft increases to .595, and I believe .610 before tapering towards the tip.
I was thinking those were big sticks too!
He has his own Vater signature sticks. Called Wicked Piston’s. Thicker above the grip for power and thins out at the grip then gets a little thicker again at the end of the shaft. Grips at different points depending on what weight and speed he needs for the various parts.
Hey Andrew. Considering Mangini was an Associate Professor at Berkeley College of Music, I would love to see and hear your take on Darren Cesca of ‘Deeds Of Flesh’ who studied for 8yrs at Berkeley. Please check out his “NUCLEUS” drum playthrough.
Edit : For me?😊(Long time sub).
Mike is a freak of drumming nature. His mind is a drumming computer. Seriously listen to him talk about playing on his "GRID" videos. Not for everyone. Mike is totally out in space about his technique. It works for him. He's so freaking good that I don't even bother trying to learn his chops. Nor could I.
Fellow Kiwi here. I saw Mike play on a Steve Vai tour back in the late 1990s at the Power Station in Mt Eden. After the concert I decided to call him an Octopus because he plays like he has more than 4 limbs. As you may suspect he is completely ambidextrous, sometimes I think he switches hands just because he can as there doesn't seem to be any logical reason for it.
When the drummer is more in time than the computed ones😂
Yes Jayanta!