Drum Teacher Reaction: MIKE PORTNOY - 'Sacrificed Sons' - Dream Theater Drum Cam | (2021 Reaction)
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The big problem with Dream Theater is that when you ask yourself what time signature this is and start counting, it's already changed.
But it doesnt matter because it all makes sense and flows lol
Ahahahah as a huge fan of Dream Theater I couldn't agree more with you 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That section was in 13/8 ;)
Why do you need to count lmao? Just headbang
@@seantierson2633 For 1.5 bar
You simply can't have enough Portnoy on the channel.. I've had the pleasure of meeting him 3 different times and not only did he remember me, but he actually remembered our conversation where we had left off.. He is a blast!!!
That’s pretty incredible!
That's so unbelievably cool
Adam Elechko I wish I could like a comment more than once! There is nothing better than 1) watching mike play. But 2) watch him play and having a drum guy have his mind blown by what he is watching in a reaction!
I absolutely love how Mike shows off that he has a sense of humor while playing live. Great stuff.
I love it too!
I was front row in Sydney and gave Mike the double point and screamed "you're the man" he nodded and said "I know".
If course we couldn't hear but it was clear as.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Could you react and comment on this video? Mike Portnoy -The Great Debate (th-cam.com/video/4p9aBpTS8w0/w-d-xo.html)
hell yeah, man. I remember the first time I saw DT was on the Six Degrees tour. He was playing catch during one tune, tossing his stick back and forth to a tech off on the side of the stage.
Thats whats missing in many if Manginis shows. He's a phenomenal drummer but I would like more showing off from him
That gig was also one of the most special gigs they’ve ever done. Portnoy put 110% of his passion for DT into that performance.
Also the reason for him taking his hands down low is for his drum tech to squirt water onto his hands to make sure he has a consistent grip. And when he puts his hand behind his head, I’m fairly sure it’s for his IEM mixing, using hand signals to say which instrument and if he wants it quieter or louder in his IEMs. So his drum tech was always incredibly busy during the live gigs.
My thought was that the cable of the IEM was pulling down to the in ears it self and he that he was trying to pull up the cable to have some free cable around the neck to be able to move freely the head. This can happen some times even if you tape the cable down to your back, what a lot of people do. But what you say makes sense to me too
Even in those short bits when he is standing?
I think putting his hand behind his head in anticipation of a measure end (or strong beat) is just a gimmick, and/or just his own way to enjoy his feast. He also does mildly hit his forehead with his fist sometimes on an off-beat, I suppose it's a syncopation and rhythms giga-party in his head when he plays, so he physicalize even more like that to let it out.
I always loved it in a way, because I do feel like that when I play drums, which make it relatable.
No... he's just "lock" his hand to "keep" time, like a "mannerism" to make hin righ in time... like when he punch his head... he doing this all the time with different forms of "counting time*
Neal Peart is smiling down from heaven
Yes Michael!
They were very close friends in later years. If I remember the story right, Mike's son is one of the few people Neil's ever allowed to play his drums.
@@warren_r I heard the very same thing!!
He always writes the perfect parts for songs. Even though he's playing some insane stuff, it really doesn't come across as overplaying. Again, it's a credit to his ability to play to the song. His arrangements are basically songs in themselves.
Exactly! His 'feel' and 'groove' are unmatched. I really believe the arguments and comparisons of Portnoy vs Mangini are null. They're just two completely different drummers and each are excellent in their own right. My preference is Portnoy, but some may prefer Mangini. To each his own.
Exactly. It's because he's a real artist.
He definitely plays for the song. So much so, that I often forget how skilled a drummer he is until he shows off his chops during a solo or something.
His drum lines actually SING as well. He's an incredibly melodic drummer. A rare find and a result of non-technical training most times.
Agree...insane stuff...
I've met Mike and lost count of the number of times I've seen him with his various bands. He does a lot of vocals and even lead vocals occasionally. He really is something else.
Andrew, at the 17:30 mark where Mike puts his hands behind his back each individually he has motioned for his drum tech to mist his hands with water. It is a technique he uses to maintain handling control of his sticks. It’s impressive to watch while he’s in the the element.
He does it when he is standing too. I've seen him do it in really old footage playing small venues. I like to think it's like a very awesome metal af tick that he intentionally does 😉
Jason Rullo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> portnoy
If I remember correctly, in an interview released many years ago, Mike said that his hands get dry pretty quickly and that his roadie does spray some water on his hands to help with his grip on the sticks.
Thats correct, this happens at 11:30 on this video
I'm not sure if it's water because if you watch the "making of" of the Systematic Chaos album you'll see him regularly applying an adhesive spray to his hands and sticks. Could be similar to the "tacky" stuff that strongmen use when doing atlas stones.
Mike's my #1 Drummer of all time... let's see your reaction. 😜👍🏼
I always advice people who want to start learning odd time signatures to study Portnoy. He has such a simple and clear approach to them. Met him back in the 90's and he was such an open and friendly guy, happy to share his knowledge and encouraging everyone to pass their imaginary limits.
Agreed. He plays over odd time signatures the way a good rock drummer would approach 4/4. Just grooving and serving the song and the songwriting.
You can do mindbending and confusing stuff in odd time signatures, but that approach just doesn't work for me. Portnoy's style is deceptively simple instead.
@@iau perfect words. Mike may not as advanced as many other drummers in terms of the technicality, but he has a simple and unique approach to play progressive stuffs. Most of the time it feels like he was playing a simple groove 4/4 but it turns out not, and it's certainly easier for me to learn his stuff. I also like his approach better because it serves the song and completes the music perfectly.
You got it dude
I saw a great video of him explaining them a while ago. He was describing a 19/16 time signature I believe from dance of eternity and it really helped me grasp the concept. Wish I had the link
Is it just me or did the 4/4 track after the video sound so strange after all the polymetric craziness we heard 😆 🤣
The thing that amazes me is this is like 2 hours into the show and his stamina is next level. Love Mike so much. Pure inspiration. Thanks so much Andrew for providing amazing content ❤️❤️
M Portnoy is my favorite drummer. He has just been phenomenal for so long, and I love this stuff. DT without him is just not the same.
👍🏼.. You and me both
Mike is a pretty damn good replacement...
Thanks bro 🤝🏻
He didnt even notice he switched sides of the kit lol
But yea his in ears were getting caught up on his shirt and tech was trying to fix it, he also missed the vocal cue in doing so and Mike is such a perfectionist he was like “Hey man wheres the mic” lol
Yea, I noticed that. stage when dark while John myung played his bass riff after the first section. good spot 👍
Not only is he my favorite drummer but he's also the most fun to watch by far. Liquid Tension Experiment 3 just came out btw. His playing in that band is some of his best.
I had the chance to view it live with DT 2 times in Paris and it was such a blast. So much joy to play, so much interactivity with the public and other musicians. And he plays really complex parts as if it was a basic beat, so much training to be able to play at that level. And his drums parts are always really tasty ! One of my favorite drummers.
💯👌
Honestly think this show (and the Live Scenes from New York show) is a masterclass in live drumming - he is so entertaining to watch, and it looks effortless. Have re-watched Score over and over. I actually used this DVD to learn how he plays parts of About to Crash (Reprise) for a university performance
I cannot say another word than beautiful...I have started playing drums because of him, and every time that I watch this video feels like my full energy is back...I know that you already have many videos of them, but check out he playing "The Great Debate" at studio, it's just amazing his creativity on that track...
DT with Mike Portnoy was one of the most well oiled machinery in the world. The "new guy" is not bad, but it's... it's not the same band anymore.
Goodbye Mr Mangini... you are a great drummer... but listen to this... Mr Portnoy is the Men... 👌👌👌👍👍👍Best Drummer ever!!
some people (for some reason especially when it comes to mike portnoy) live by the idea that "i know a guy whos better, so screw this guy!" and somehow dont see that they're missing out on some of the most incredibly good drumming that way.
no, mike most likely isnt the best.. who cares? this was incredible and we can only pray (and practice) to get close to that level one day maybe
Well said. There is no 'best'.
But Mike is a phenomenal player no doubt :)
THIS is exactly why i love MP, the visible and audible excitement.... he kind of makes everything "click" for me when he's playing in DT. Yes there might be other and even better drummers, MM for example is also a great player and did a killer job in Dream Theater, but this guy's special.
Mike Portnoy is a strong believer in showmanship. He's one of my favorite drummers along with Gavin Harrison.
Mike Portnoy, the one and only. The guy was (AND STILL IS) amazing. He is with Liquid Tension Experiment, with two members of Dream Theater, (basically like Dream Theater but without any singer) and they just collaborated again!
Jason Rullo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> portnoy
He grips so low on the sticks... and I don't know how. They'd fly out of my hands if I ever held that low.
I love Mike Portnoy's energy and personality behind the kit. He's as much an entertainer as he is a drummer. I miss his personality and energy in DT.
And yes, he's one of the most relaxed drummers I've ever seen playing this kind of music.
Jason Rullo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Portnoy
A song about the heart of NYC played in the heart of NYC by a band with a drummer with heart for NYC.
Mike Portnoy single-handedly avenged every tragedy of 9/11 in this performance. You can tell he did this for ALL the heroes, both sung and unsung.
#alwaysremember
#neverforget
For all those affected by 9/11 in whatever way possible...May the Lord Bless you and Keep you and give you His Perfect Peace.
#DTforever
#longlivePrincePortnoy
Awesome info. THANKS
@@AndrewRooneyDrums thank YOU! I highly encourage you to watch this whole performance. From the DVD "Score". Mike Portnoy is playing the legendary albino monster kit (to explain it..eh, it's just something you gotta see for yourself if you haven't already). They play with that orchestra for the whole second "half" (which is really like another whole). It was their 20th anniversary Octavarium tour. The DVD is the final performance at Radio City Music Hall. The video montages filmed overhead are epic and all the background chatter you heard at the beginning of the performance is news footage from 9/11.
I loved your review and reaction and liked and subscribed right away! Cheers and God Bless!
I see Mike Portnoy, I click play.
That's what made me love Portnoy at first sight: 1% technique, 99% heart and passion
Nice!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums he's the reason why one day, when I was 12 years old, that sleeping passion for drums suddenly woke up. My father shared with me this passion when I was a kid and Portnoy made it stronger. As you always say there's a lot of dummers better than him, but his feeling and his chemistry together with the passion he has and instills to listeners, is absolutely mind blowing. I'm not joking when I say that his music and his way to relate with fans, saved my adolescence. Music: what a powerful tool....
Amen my dude!
You need to check out Transatlantic live in London on their Whirlwind tour, he sings, crowd surfs, kicks the living shit out of his kit across a 77-minute long song and all in a beige onesie!
wow! Sounds good haha
Huge +1 to that one, you'll love it!
Dream theater ,are a very unique band and Mike Portnoy is a genius drummer
He sure is Anthony!
YESSSIR PORTNOY IS THE MAN
11:40 is not goofing around, he is signaling his drum tech, he came up with a signalling system for different things.
He’s getting his hands sprayed with water!
@@BrandonofRedemption ...and that
He swapped drum kits in the middle of the song, and it’s so clean you almost don’t notice it unless you know he has two sections to his kit
if you wonder why mike took is hand out back to the drum tech is because in a dvd he said that he had developed something that makes his hands dry, the reason he put his hand out was so that his drum tech could spray water on his so he gets a better grip on his sticks
When the stage goes dark, Mike switches to the other side of his kit. The side he started with is a very Bonham like kit, 26” bass, big toms, etc. his other side is a more traditional prog setup, will all the octobans and whatnot.
Oh right. Thanks Bill!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums check out Instrmedley on the same gig, there u can see him changing the stools while playing, sorry for my bad english though, i´m just a crazy german..
This drumkit was named "The Siameese Monster".
@@kimeinvik This kit is the Albino monster, used for the Octavarium tour, and recording of Systematic Chaos.
The Siamese Monster was used for the recording and touring of Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence and Train Of Thought.
@@kayfreyer Hey. I'm not trying to be a pleb here by correcting everyone, but the instrumedley was recorded in April 2004 at the Budokan theater in Japan, whereas this was recorded on April 1st 2006 at the Radio City Music Hall in NYC.
I totally forgot about this masterpiece. Brilliant! And the quality of the concert and dvd in general. Mike is a true musician and magician, it's frightening.
9:39
That part always makes me smile and enjoy the music. Man he really plays the music. It's like almost impossible to not smile, feel the joy, follow the music and enjoy the moment.
8:00 It's 15/16, 16/16, 15/16, 16/16, then a little bar of 3/16, then 15/16, then 16/16, then 6/16. Dream Theater has a long tradition of "adding" and "removing" a few beats to a pattern.
A simpler version of the idea might be something like a repeating eight-bar pattern of 4/4, 3/4, 4/4, 4/4 | 4/4, 3/4, 4/4, 6/4. Play it like a straight mid-tempo rock groove, but to make it Dream Theater-y, hit the snare and crash on 3.
Excellent. Thanks for the info Warren
Mike Portnoy is the epitome of "I bought this whole kit to use the WHOLE DAMN KIT" almost every song. At the same time, humble enough to compliment the drummer from Halestorm for mastering the simple kit set up and what he does with that. Nail the basics first.
What makes Portnoy's playing so special is, that he has the technique and the precision, but at the same time great feeling and musicality, what makes it less "robotic" than for example Mangini's or Priester's playing (who are marvelous drummers, don't get me wrong).
I think the same
the knowledge that after this song they sit down and play the 24min Octavarium is terrifying
at least the drims part gets a break for the first 8min or so of it lmao
Mike Portnoy is every drummer’s drummer.
Yes!
Mike Portnoy has been my favorite drummer since 1995
A drummer with one of the most meaningful, tasteful and singing drum parts style out there.
Not only does Mike Portnoy sing but he also is an excellent bass player (also plays guitar) and has a "Ramones" cover band which he fronts as singer and bassist. Oh and by the way he's certainly in the world's top 10 of rock/prog-rock drummers. Nothing at all to be envious of!! Been playing the drums myself for well over 50 years and if I practiced for another 50, I wouldn't get anywhere near the guys in this category (Portnoy, Mangini, Harrison & co.) - I think they were all born on another planet! Never get tired of listening to and watching the likes of Mike Portnoy - just so fantastic. Was privilaged to see The Winery Dogs live a couple of years ago (pre-Covid of course) and Mike has got even better, insmuch you can see he's enjoying playing even more post Dream Theater. Probably a little more relaxed than the rigorous and meticulous "every single note pre-written" Dream Theater approach. Love both bands though, Dream Theater and The Winery Dogs but they're of course so very different - Mike Portnoy is however equally brilliant in both bands!
Great info! Thanks so much Mick
Andrew. I love the way you enjoy music. I can see that just looking at your face. Tx for shearing your love for music.
And check The spirit carries on. Drums only. Amazing Mike Portnoy.
Nice reaction Andrew. I was never into Dream Theater that much but Mike is definetely a top notch player. Besides been a collector and a big smart fan of music and movies, he was the second youngest drummer to be inducted in the Modern Drummer's Hall of Fame (first was Neil Peart, who btw is his biggest hero). Andrew, if you like drummers who can sing, Deen Castronovo with Journey is a MUST for you
This concert drum cam is going to be my favorite for ever! It is just so much fun and entertaining to watch.
There's a live version of DTs Glass Prison where you can see Mike receive water spray for his hands from the technician mid-song to keep them hands cool I guess, I think he was doing it here too.
Awesome info Tom!
Well you're half right. He mainly does it for his grip. Thats why his drum tech needs to stay behind him at all times. Mike finds it better to have his hands kinda moist to get keep his grip. If the drum tech isnt spraying his hands, hes refilling his, Gatorade, mic cues, making sure he can reach his sticks if he needs to; as well as making sure the sticks on his left are upside down, he can hit the snare with that crisp sound you like. And always rubber tip sticks.
So yeah, hes a lil bit of a diva lol
@@Killjoy3189 rubber tips? You mean nylon? I'd say the spitting would be worst part about being in a band with him
@@drumboarder1 Yes! Thank you. Im glad somebody knew what i was talking about lol
And yeah, the spitting was a bit much. I mean, they had a part of the stage just for him to spit on.
@@Killjoy3189 and yet as a fan boy when I saw them at 15 I remembered thinking, before questioning myself, "if they said anyone to lick some of his spit gets to play his drums I swear I'd do it!"
I don't think that applies anymore thank fudge
I'm a semi-pro drummer. Meaning I've toured and I been asked to join some famous bands for studio work. I bought all of Mike Portnoy's instructional DVD's However as my drum kit was in the practice room 20 miles away, and my dvd player was at home it was hard to learn off-time signatures. Yet I still managed to learn more then I thought I would just from learning how to count like he does. THE VERY BEST. F*** you Mangini! Portnoy Forever!
Loved this one, Andy. Keep rocking.
I have met him. He is super down to earth. But you can tell that he just LOVES what he does. And bringing it to the people.
I love that he changed to the other half of his kit a few minutes in
When he reached his hands behind his back, it’s so his drum tech can spray water in his palms.
Man, Thanks so much for doing this in depth one for Portnoy. Feel like you captured his approach really well. His chops on singing, and odd time signatures, even changing Kita in this video are epic. Thanks for your reverence, and keep up the amazing work!
Jason Rullo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Portnoy
Did you notice how low Portnoy holds his sticks? He also seems to hold them upside down and strike with the butt of the stuck rather than the tip.
Yes! I do the same with my left hand :)
@@AndrewRooneyDrums What surprises me is how Portnoy can still remain in control despite holding the sticks so low. I do that and it feels like they're going to fly out of my hands.
I get why some people like playing with the butt end of the stick, though it never felt right to me...
Mike looks so happy...that's the magic
I’d go and buy that DVD. It’s incredible to watch him.
Mikes mic tech is the real mvp here.
Portnoy is so good he can be playing a fast groove and itch his nose and keep the beat
Figuring out Portnoy's time signature is like searching for a grain of sand in the beach
I've said it a million times before and I'll say it a million times again; Both Mikes that have sat on the throne behind Dream Theater are absolutely phenomenal players, but Portnoy makes those odd time sigs sound smooth and easy to play, while Mangini plays like a cyborg, and has the feel of a precise, lab created perfect machine. I do admire both players A LOT, but Portnoy brought that human element that made DT songs easy ("easy") to groove to and digest. Just my two cents.
Another great reaction Mr. Rooney!
I met Mike when he did a drum clinic years ago in Cleveland Ohio area. I have a pair of sticks that he autographed for me.
Andrew I'm really enjoying both your reactions, and the opportunity to listen to some lengendary drummers, keep the show going please, very entertaining.
I was the recipient of a Mike Portnoy drum stick point at the Greek Theater in L.A. a couple decades ago. Obviously one of my all time favorite live show moments!
Ahhh.. DT’s golden age! Organic, fun, awesome! I still have my “SCORE” dvd here… so great!
God Mode 2.9 3/4 achieved! Sorry to light this up. I started writing and had to rewind a few times. I had a blast. Thanks!
Thank you!!!!!!! Finally !
The Winery Dogs. Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and Richie Kotzen. Great footage is live in Japan.
He did indeed do backing Cox with Theater and continues to with other bands
I don’t know if his tech “loved” him, by the end of his DT days, his set was massive haha. If you noticed, this kit was actually two kits side by side melded together. One side was his pseudo standard DT setup, while the right side was a Bonham style setup with one big rack tom and two floor toms. Great video as always.
The tech actually did love him! I wanna say his name is Eric Rude. He has videos about how prepares for DT shows and takes care of Mike's every need on every kit. :)
You can just hear Rush's influence on the entire band, and Neil's influence on Mike. So good
In college he was nicknamed Mike Peartnoy. Of course Neil was influenced by Bonham and Brufford. Portnoy has styles all his own now.
And definitely Yes and Maiden
@@colinme2672 Portnoy says Bruford was one of his biggest influences. Bonham too. He has Bonham's symbol tattooed on his leg :)
Jason Rullo >>>>>>>>>>>> Peart >>> Portnoy
I'm not sure if anybody has answered this yet, but the part were you ask "Is he just goofing around" You'll notice his tech behind him sprayed his hand with water to maintain a little better grip. He and the tech have tons of signals.. I love it.. LOL..
Mike has always been the heart of the Band. We lost him for some time but he's back, baby.
Not that Mangini is bad, he'great too.
Portnoy is a whole lot. Glad he's back.
This might be my favourite reaction to date!
I love DT's live RUSH covers as well; Mike really adds a bit of extra flair
Amazing!!! Mike Portnoy is a mounster!
I love that this is a video by Portnoy and you mention my favorite person in the world, Gavin. I’m not his best buddy, but his encouragement on messenger has meant worlds to me. I heard about a certain Porcupine Tree that was a college of musical genius lead by Steven and anchored by Gavin with a good chunk of Barbieri and Wes and the solid, smooth foundation of Colin Edwin. I’m still learning Peart and Portnoy (had a Nightmare interlude while I wrote this😁), Gavin is next level beyond Carey. And then there’s this beautiful creature named Kolstad. And a whole new ball of worms gets opened... So, you see where I’m going with this? Me neither, except that I have lived as long as I’m going to and I won’t live long enough to be as good as those last two. 😁🥁🤘🏻❤️
"What time signature are we in?" Chances are it's in something way different than when you had asked...so the answer is...All of them.
Nice Reaction Andrew, finally Portnoy haha :D
Portnoy had so much more soul and power when playing.
You could feel that through the whole band.
What can one say...this is just brilliant playing
One of the best drummers ever. He has so natural style of playing as nobody. He does some fancy tricks but plays very clean at the same time. Awesome.
Jason Rullo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> portnoy
As you commented on Mike putting his hand(s) behind his head, it's a signal to his drum tech. When he puts his hand behind his head it's a signal to swing the microphone in front of him. When he puts his hands behing his back, it's becuase he wants to change sticks. Watch it closely you'll see his tech always on alert and come right up behind him. Left hand stick first then right hand. I've seen him do this in coutless videos. He is truely a master. By the way! He's one of the first to play on this level. Neal Peart being the pioneer. All the other guys you mention came later.
his in-ear wire keeps tugging, that's why he keep reaching behind him to pull it back. as per his helper, he is in charge of swinging microphone when he does 2nd vocals, and also sprays water on his hands when it is dry as well as gives him sticks. i am a big fan of Dream Theater. the best band out there.
Thanks for the info!
What signature are we in?....Yes
Before you can figure out what time signature they’re in they’ve already moved through another 3 time signatures 😂
True
Luana Dametto - drummer with Brazilian death metal band Crypta deserves your attention imho. She's done a couple of drum playthroughs recently.
Mike Portnoy is back in Dream Theater.
I love watching your pure enjoyment reactions! Stryper drummer Robert Sweet said he would do arms behind the head or pointing or other silliness to help fill the dead space, if you will, between notes.
You really should watch Dirk Verbeuren ex Soilwork drummer who now drums for Megadeth. The song Stabbing the drama shows off all his versatile skills. Extremely underrated drummer except by his peers.
I'm just lost in the beauty of 10.07 - 10.22 and I know it is gonna get wilder..
My favourite all time drummer ..
Mike Portnoy is the greatest drummer of all time. Ive been saying this for years. Many people don’t know about him or John Petrucci, which I also believe he is the greatest guitarist of all time.
Omg you always know its Mike playin! My God poor Mum had a hard time during delivery.
He was born with sticks!!!!🤣
What a drummer!
I BET YOU ALL MISSED THE STICK FLIP AT 7:11 ITS SO FAST HE DOES IT BEFORE HE HITS THE CYMABL I JUST CAUGHT IT 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
iCH BIN EIN rUSH fAN bOY UND NATÜRLICH AUCH EIN Dream Theater Lover, Mike ist so ein netter earth to ground man. Love him a lot Must buy Liquid Tension
When Mike was playing and he reached back with each hand, it was so his Drum tech could spray his hands because his hands would get very dry. Mike actually explained this in one of his videos. :) Cheers, great song choice for the video.