Classical Composer Reacts to Illumination Theory (Dream Theater) | The Daily Doug (Episode 153)

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    In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm listening to Illumination Theory by Dream Theater. This live version at the Boston Opera House is from 2014. Dream Theater has again exceeded all expectations! What a glorious piece of music!
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  • @shanebilowitz7261
    @shanebilowitz7261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +936

    Most bands have one magnum opus that is the pinnacle of their compositional and musical skill. Dream theater has like 30.

    • @alanalanis2257
      @alanalanis2257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Kansas has a few. One is actually called Magnum Opus.

    • @Marifet124
      @Marifet124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      tcot is their magnum opus i think

    • @russhatcher4402
      @russhatcher4402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They also have one called the Pinnacle

    • @tomimijatovic4655
      @tomimijatovic4655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Marifet124 the dance of eternity is one too

    • @Marifet124
      @Marifet124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Haken Strips ending of tcot is untouchable for me.. but i respect your opinion. Mp era is pure gold

  • @garchompy_1561
    @garchompy_1561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    six degrees of inner turbulance and change of seasons is gonna be a friday in the future then? noted. cant wait.

    • @tonyrobertsguitar
      @tonyrobertsguitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      SEASONS!

    • @emanuelericossa3643
      @emanuelericossa3643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Six degrees from score would be terrific

    • @myturbulance
      @myturbulance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      please do SCORE version of Six Degrees. There's a real orchestra too.

    • @Taustavoima
      @Taustavoima 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Instrumedley and the 12 step suite as well!

    • @myturbulance
      @myturbulance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Taustavoima Hells Kitchen as well :D

  • @MattRoyMusic
    @MattRoyMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    "I can't do that. And neither can you... probably." The most relatable phrase for any musician who has attempted to learn to play a Dream Theater song.

    • @twelveeighteenofficial7487
      @twelveeighteenofficial7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Very, very short list of humans on this planet who can do what any of these players can do. I can think of maybe 3 or 4 who can hang with Myung or Petrucci, and maybe two who can hang with Jordan. He gets a lot of grief in keyboard circles for "showboating" too much, but kinda part of the showmanship of playing in this band includes playing absolutely absurd parts that leave everyone else slack-jawed and ready to burn their own instruments.

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      it's both humbling and frustrating to try to play a dream theater song.

    • @logicturtle9838
      @logicturtle9838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The drums aren't that bad.

    • @logicturtle9838
      @logicturtle9838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well...at least the Portnoy stuff can be played by mortals.

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@logicturtle9838
      try doing what myung is almost impossible.....some people speculate that he's actually an android.....listen to the bass solo in ytse jam.
      or the part after the intro of the glass prison.
      it sounds deceptively simple, but trying to execute it quickly slaps you with humility.

  • @austinlange7210
    @austinlange7210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    “They’re at the top of their game and the top of their genre.”
    And have been for 20 years.

    • @jrk10
      @jrk10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You mean 30 years

    • @herumusicman8200
      @herumusicman8200 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@jrk10as of now you mean nearly 40 years

    • @willmoblo75
      @willmoblo75 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dream theater is #2 to zeppelin for me. rush #3. Rest is moot

  • @petervargo1696
    @petervargo1696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    "I can't do that. And neither can you."
    No truer words have even been spoken.

    • @AtomizedSound
      @AtomizedSound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FOR most musicians, yes, but not ALL

    • @johnnicholson8345
      @johnnicholson8345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nope. Grew up with John, came from same home town, went to Berklee at same time he (they) did and nope, I can't play it.

  • @gchance
    @gchance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    "He doesn't have much range on that instrument." Jordan changes the key range on the fly so quickly you don't even notice it. It's one of his many wizardry tricks.

    • @theangryhog
      @theangryhog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah, watch his left hand. He has 2 wheels one for bends/modulation, the other shifts the keys up/down a few octaves depending how far he rolls the wheel.

    • @alensyhn4850
      @alensyhn4850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@theangryhog It rather looks like the keytar has one pitch wheel, one mod wheel, and two transpose buttons (octave up/down) beside them, which are fairly standard controls on synths; you can see him fiddle with those transpose buttons around 23:05 while playing the same melodic line at different octaves.

    • @MawcDrums
      @MawcDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alensyhn4850 Exactly, my yamaha MX49 has these buttons too

    • @malawigw
      @malawigw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rudess is goat

  • @DiegoMarcher
    @DiegoMarcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love how on 26:06 James starts to walk towards Petrucci to get a power refill and at 26:15, when he's full of power, he can get back and sing that extremely high note. What a source of power you are Petrucci!

  • @HarryWincup
    @HarryWincup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    I remember a friend showing me Dream Theater when they released Scenes from a Memory. I'd been super into Nirvana and Metallica, and suddenly I couldn't believe what I was hearing. The real beauty is that they have so many songs as epic as this one, there's nobody else like DT in my opinion

    • @pcgold944
      @pcgold944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well stated

    • @philipturner6279
      @philipturner6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed

    • @bece7994
      @bece7994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can relate almost exactly.

    • @jacqueadi2552
      @jacqueadi2552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said.

    • @thomasdemharter2153
      @thomasdemharter2153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My first encounter with Dream Theater was with a local radio station that played "Pull me under". I was immediately hooked, but they didn't state the name of the band / song. Later i found an online playlist for that respective hour, so i noted down the 5 or 6 songs (i forgot what time it was exactly) and went to a record shop the next day that offered stations where you could listen to CDs before buying. On the 3rd CD i was happy to find what i'd listened to the day before. Bought "Images and Words" and "Scenes from a Memory" on the spot.

  • @tracycecil8010
    @tracycecil8010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Holy crap. How have I never heard of this band before? That was freaking magical. Wow

    • @Stuff7164
      @Stuff7164 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Welcome to the show. :)

    • @joshperkins2747
      @joshperkins2747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude I’m the same way. Where the fuck have I been. Good god these guys are freaking amazing.

  • @amcuhrd
    @amcuhrd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I love these kinda reaction videos. where the host actually knows what hes talking about and can really appriciate Dream Theater, instead of some people who just say oh, this is good...

    • @MoXy69409
      @MoXy69409 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean ayy, not everyone understand music theory, i dont understand shit about music but this shit still 🔥🔥

  • @fabiobentes
    @fabiobentes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Please, Dream Theater, "A Change of Seasons". Studio version. Absolutely mindblowing. An Epic.

    • @fabiobentes
      @fabiobentes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And you would be surprised by Haken. "The Path + Atlas Stone" or "Earthrise" or "1985".

    • @jeffreypaul2324
      @jeffreypaul2324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A Change Of Seasons is just over the top! I love that epic!

    • @jonathansefcik473
      @jonathansefcik473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nah he should do the New York live 2000 version. The studio version is too sterile for my liking. Idk if its the production or what. The live versions have much more oomf the them.

    • @artmooneyblog
      @artmooneyblog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathansefcik473 I'm not sure, but I presume that's the difference between Jordan and Derek. TBH that's why I can't deal with Sons of Appolo, with Derek I always hear the same sound and same patterns. I know I am wrong with this, since he's a versatile musician, but that's how I feel with him. So yes - do a live version.

    • @DmitryEfremov85
      @DmitryEfremov85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathansefcik473 in my opinion they completely ruined the live version by playing the fast part of the song slow. But probably somebody likes this way better.

  • @BillWood2791
    @BillWood2791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This was magic caught on film. Just imagine being those Berkley Orchestra and choir students...... They've gone to this school knowing that Dream Theater was birthed from Berkley (2 were graduates, and one was a Master Professor of Percussion). And now, they get the chance to share the stage with the ones who paved the way. And not only share the stage, but play some of the most epic songs in their catalogue.

  • @manfredmar
    @manfredmar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Man, that first symphonic part at 13:10 made me tear up.
    I've heard this song a million times, but somehow watching you enjoy it triggered something.
    Thank you
    You now have to listen to the whole "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" song, which is a 40 minute long journey, but my god is it worth it.

  • @jcoriha
    @jcoriha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Only at the end do we learn to "C" the light.

  • @thedude3364
    @thedude3364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I think Doug is hooked. I discovered Dream Theater 20 years ago while I was still a teenager. I’ve seen them many, many times live. I’ve traveled all around the country seeing them play while I was in my twenties. Dream Theater is more than a band. They are the soundtrack to the greatest memories of my life. I know plenty of others feel the same way.

    • @theangryhog
      @theangryhog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel ya. Discovered them in 1992 (I was 20). Have travelled the country as well to see them, LTE, G3 with Petrucci, drum clinics by Portnoy. My one and only tattoo is the majesty symbol on my arm. Just because their music is so vital to who I am, I would rather lose my sight than my hearing. Not that I want to go blind, but you get my point.

    • @barefootalien
      @barefootalien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh wow, you couldn't have said that any better.
      To this day, each and every album can just magically teleport me back to the time and place I first heard them (and listened to them obsessively hundreds and hundreds of times)... most of which, starting with Scenes From a Memory, was when they came out.

    • @AtomizedSound
      @AtomizedSound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beautiful

  • @TheTheaterdreamer
    @TheTheaterdreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The conducter was the one who created the Octavarium Symphonic version of the song with the same name. Awesome

    • @Opeckie
      @Opeckie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He also scored this song as well. Both the actual studio recording and this live version. He was a fan who became a protege of Jordan's and has gone on to do many things with both Jordan and the band.

    • @muhammetemredurmus
      @muhammetemredurmus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is Eren Başbuğ, are proud genious! 🇹🇷

  • @saadbinsami3153
    @saadbinsami3153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Sir I literally cried, more dream theater please....

    • @kennhern
      @kennhern 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Me too, that orchestral section always brings tears to my eyes

    • @KnexRules8365
      @KnexRules8365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Every time this man does a reaction video to a Dream Theater Epic, I end up in tears just because it's like I'm hearing the song for the first time again and it's beautiful. Truly is an amazing emotional and spiritual experience.

    • @deadnoteguitar
      @deadnoteguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@KnexRules8365 Yeah... How can some call this music too technical/unemotional. Come on?!

    • @KnexRules8365
      @KnexRules8365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@deadnoteguitar it's very technical but they find a balance, and the balance is perfect to get your emotions flowing

  • @logicturtle9838
    @logicturtle9838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Scenes from a Memory full album. Don't question this - just do it.

    • @wolframvonstein4526
      @wolframvonstein4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or Twelve Step Suite. How to cope with alcoholism - and double footwork...

    • @thomass6988
      @thomass6988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I second this

    • @guidolandinidrums
      @guidolandinidrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes to this idea. We don't care the time required for you and us. Just do it and we will watch.

    • @Chiefmonks
      @Chiefmonks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i read this already several times, i completely agree. Listening to the concept album "scenes from a memory" i a journey you won't forget. Did it several times, enjoyed it every time.

    • @richnricher
      @richnricher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yessss. I mean DT got great albums and many of them are masterpiece but I can say Scenes from a Memory is THE ALBUM.

  • @arekkusu4677
    @arekkusu4677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    A change of seasons is by far their best song for me, an absolute masterpiece

    • @benjaminkrake4211
      @benjaminkrake4211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also sad how some of the lyrics are about Mike portnoy’s mother’s death

    • @arekkusu4677
      @arekkusu4677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeaa the Carpe Diem part
      Reminds me of my mother

    • @DreiK96
      @DreiK96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol no! Even Doug himself said, ACOS is MUSICALLY DISCONNECTED and not as epic as Octavarium and Tuscany. Based on Doug's reaction here ACOS isn't as epic as Illumination Theory too.

    • @forentertainment3259
      @forentertainment3259 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DreiK96I’m fine disagreeing with Doug on this one, I think ACOS is by far their most cohesive epic. Complex in a meaningful way.

    • @dustincarpenter1707
      @dustincarpenter1707 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DreiK96 Only because it's dealing with a range of drama from the subtle to the intense. Of course, one section isn't going to have similar themes to another. That's part of life, and the metaphoric Change of Seasons.

  • @stellar1016
    @stellar1016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    11:50 In the modern prog scene, there is a band called Haken. They are inspired from old school prog rock and metal bands such as Dream Theater, Rush, Yes, Gentle Giant, etc but they have their very own unique sound. I will recommend the 17 mins long epic track called 'Celestial Elixir' by Haken. I hope you react to it and do an analysis. Big fan here sir!

    • @shanechaisson9383
      @shanechaisson9383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haken is amazing. Their newest album is pretty great as well

    • @VinierRain
      @VinierRain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1

    • @wolframvonstein4526
      @wolframvonstein4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shanechaisson9383 I second that. I never heard guitars on the djent-low level being used as considerate as in Virus! And I love every possible other of their sounds as well!

    • @shanechaisson9383
      @shanechaisson9383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wolframvonstein4526 all of their stuff is great. And looking at their musical evolution over their albums it’s clear they are one of the greats.

    • @shanechaisson9383
      @shanechaisson9383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also waiting on a Haken and Dream Theater show. Would be awesome to see both of them performing together.

  • @ErnestRamos
    @ErnestRamos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "How'd they get to C?!?" - I have a theory, an "Illumination Theory" 😂:
    If C (or more accurately, lower case c) =speed of light, then they ended the song in the metaphorical light they talk about.
    I need coffee. Great video! I learned so many things about this piece here.

    • @JohnVenturadrum
      @JohnVenturadrum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Faz muito sentido, será? hahaha

    • @deadnoteguitar
      @deadnoteguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Really? I never thought about that. It definitely has a meaning but I'm not if it's about C/speed of light. It might have a different meaning in the bigger picture, like it does in Octavarium (every song in another key etc.)

    • @davidh.chandyp.8730
      @davidh.chandyp.8730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes sense... jjj

    • @dustincarpenter1707
      @dustincarpenter1707 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Since C is the only major scale composed entirely of naturals, it would represent the truest path musically for one to follow.

  • @CFeliPO
    @CFeliPO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    When I first heard that orchestral part when this song came out I was in a dark place in my life and it really helped me come out of it. I was in a place of darkness and saw the light I suppose. Still one of my favorite pieces of music of all time.

    • @gonzorudeboy
      @gonzorudeboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I totally relate.

    • @Tim_593
      @Tim_593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have a very similar relationship with "The Spirit Carries On" and Scenes from a Memory in general
      I actually struggle with appreciating the Album musically now, because my thoughts are just going back and forth
      I hope youre much better now!

    • @mrtapping
      @mrtapping 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here, I would wake up every day thinking about suicide. God spoke to me through this song.

    • @gonzorudeboy
      @gonzorudeboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A lot of love to you all.

    • @mikewyka5733
      @mikewyka5733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep I'm right with you, friend. Rough breakup for me. "To really feel the joy in life / you must suffer through the pain"
      Some of these lines really got me to put things into perspective. We're always hyper-focused on current struggles. And this song really helped me pull back and push forward to make it to a better day. Needless to say, fantastic song.

  • @smogunner
    @smogunner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Illumination theory is a very underrated DT song. Good choice because it's really great.

    • @gestalt7756
      @gestalt7756 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not underrated, it's one of their best stuff. My top 5 fav song

    • @rahatmahmud5435
      @rahatmahmud5435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you smokin man? This is considered one of the best of DT easily. Pure masterpiece from DT

    • @WheelHeadd
      @WheelHeadd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't know with other fans, but it's one of my top 5:
      Octavarium
      Illuminination Theory
      Breaking All Illusions
      Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
      Ministry of Lost Souls

    • @nicosimioni7363
      @nicosimioni7363 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Underrated album, in any case.

  • @felipecampos3045
    @felipecampos3045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Omg....doug do scenes from a memory, the album, it is the best thing DT has made yet

    • @147pablox
      @147pablox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's asking him to do a 20 hour reaction video. Not that I would not watch it, but, yeah...

    • @Nekomemi
      @Nekomemi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with this, that album is their absolut best album.

    • @statictensionrocks
      @statictensionrocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also agreed

    • @richardmedeiros5755
      @richardmedeiros5755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. I would sit through the whole video lol it’s my favorite album all time.

    • @AtomizedSound
      @AtomizedSound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Top album for sure

  • @calpay2000
    @calpay2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A Change of Seasons, Glass Prison, the Great Debate, Six Degrees of Inmer Turbulence Part 2

  • @ViperRob
    @ViperRob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Transatlantic (Portnoy on drums) has some great epic songs: Kaleidoscope, All of the Above, Stranger in your soul, Duel with the Devil

    • @SebaProgre
      @SebaProgre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed!

    • @StevenZebrowski
      @StevenZebrowski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely need some Transatlantic on this channel. If you don’t wanna start with an “epic,” give “Black as the Sky” a spin.

    • @fusionfan6883
      @fusionfan6883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love Whirlwind. Also some of Neil Morse too such as Momentum.

  • @progmushroom
    @progmushroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Doug, your channel is musically the most interesting i found on youtube. Thanks for all. You must be an amazing teacher

  • @DiegoDeschain
    @DiegoDeschain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Loved to see how genuinely happy and filled with joy you got by listening to it. Music is indeed a beautiful thing. Thank God for music.

  • @israelottani
    @israelottani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dream theater do literally what their name means, it's basically a dream theater that each song comes in an amazing imersive sensation, and unbelievable feelings in each individual song, simple magic. What band man

  • @lxathu
    @lxathu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Doug, almost forgot...
    One of their most underrated (I mean by the band) songs is Learning to Live.
    I have no idea why. The lyrics, rhythmically, how it's structured and built, the licks, the instrumental parts and its monumental ending... most bands would give a huge part of their lives to have only one like that.
    th-cam.com/video/hA_MqPRvsJc/w-d-xo.html

    • @the1gorn
      @the1gorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is my single favorite song of all time, has been since I first heard it...and it has to be played with Wait For Sleep, since they are essentially 2 parts of the same song (and the WFS motifs appear all over LTL).

    • @AtomizedSound
      @AtomizedSound 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely a great song in a 13/8 main motif. Myung’s lyrics are awesome how they made it work even though it made Portnoy upset and for the most part banned him from writing lyrics to any more DT songs like that without a structure I believe but it dissuaded him

    • @dmidkif
      @dmidkif 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me, James Labrie and Kevin Moore make it for me. James Labrie’s voice was at its peak, and with all due respect to Jordan Rudess, Kevin Moore’s keyboard sound was the best that the band ever had.

  • @TheDmoe4000
    @TheDmoe4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    14:20 Damn, Doug. That's a beautiful sentiment!

  • @PeteOliva
    @PeteOliva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Petrucci from 23:10 to 23:50 ... damn. Blistering and blazingly fast, but ANYTHING but mindless shredding. Every arpeggio down to the note is carefully chosen in this whole segment for maximum clarity and musicality. We don't deserve this man. My favorite living shredder.

  • @harrygorrod4463
    @harrygorrod4463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Blind Guardians - "and then there was silence", next please haha

    • @marcosjbs4391
      @marcosjbs4391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blind Guardian, without 's'

    • @rtrooperw8115
      @rtrooperw8115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, yeah ok😂

    • @wjadragon6782
      @wjadragon6782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hansi's voice with DT :)

    • @alithanna
      @alithanna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What, no Bard's Song + Valhalla?

  • @Raiderblack
    @Raiderblack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    YES - Gates of Delirium!! THE Masterpiece!

    • @Adrian-my9or
      @Adrian-my9or 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Revealing Science of God

    • @jeffjones9448
      @jeffjones9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely! It's Yes' Magnum Opus! One of progressive rock's highest achievements.

    • @darrylseaman1149
      @darrylseaman1149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All four sides of Tales From Topographic Oceans back to back lol 🤣🤣🤣

    • @richardkitchener2051
      @richardkitchener2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The start of The Embracing Circle sounds like it was borrowed from Close to the Edge

  • @alexrobin
    @alexrobin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Whooo! It's Dream Theater time!
    Scenes from a memory next? :D

    • @astrape
      @astrape 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes, all the album
      :)

    • @tiagoamaro3272
      @tiagoamaro3272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YEAAAAAAH I asked that multiple times

    • @DicktheBullHauler
      @DicktheBullHauler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@astrape theres no other way to do it!

    • @torris
      @torris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If so I hope he does Live Scenes!

    • @StuartRedman
      @StuartRedman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      PLEASE Doug, you have to do Metropolis Pt 2 sometime!

  • @christianrojas3357
    @christianrojas3357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Dream Theater can definitely make you "C" the light.

    • @rizkyjelang4737
      @rizkyjelang4737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can c what you did there

    • @raz0rcarich99
      @raz0rcarich99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I did not C that one coming.

    • @StevenZebrowski
      @StevenZebrowski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Too many puns for me. I’m out. C you later.

    • @giancork1656
      @giancork1656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rizkyjelang4737 you mean 'what you D there....'.

    • @raz0rcarich99
      @raz0rcarich99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@giancork1656 This is A Bunch of Crap Dude.

  • @jorggamingcr409
    @jorggamingcr409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I just had to pause and say, everytime I hear the instrumental part begining at 12:00 I got goosebumps, all my arm hair bristle.

    • @valandhol9four680
      @valandhol9four680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats why i lisen to a lot of classical music, besides things like DT

    • @Alamar1
      @Alamar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      frisson

  • @rushfacu
    @rushfacu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    What about reacting to " Breaking all Illusions" 🥰

    • @cartelesargentinos
      @cartelesargentinos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      X2

    • @candra_abdurrahman
      @candra_abdurrahman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeeeeeeeeeesss

    • @curtswindoll8664
      @curtswindoll8664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would LOVE that. My favorite of all DT’s songs.

    • @rushfacu
      @rushfacu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@curtswindoll8664 I have a tattoo: "Life's biggest battles often are fought alone"

    • @curtswindoll8664
      @curtswindoll8664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rushfacu That’s taking “love” to an entirely new level!

  • @mistersmeagol259
    @mistersmeagol259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back in the 90s, *Dream Theater's* music single-handedly changed my notion of what music can be and do, specifically *"Take the Time"* . For more Dream Theater epicness with lots of theory and instrumentation intricacy to dig into, highly, _highly_ suggest: *"Outcry" "Blind Faith" "Scarred"* & *"In the Presence of Enemies, Pt. 1 & 2"* 😁🤘🤙

  • @gonzorudeboy
    @gonzorudeboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This piece always makes me cry.

    • @cartelesargentinos
      @cartelesargentinos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      X2

    • @rubenfe91
      @rubenfe91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      X3 soo good, the orchestra part and the rage after it!

  • @biraoliverio
    @biraoliverio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    A long masterpiece that I’m waiting your appreciation is A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers from Van der Graaf Generator, you are not going to regret the experience.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      It's scheduled for next week!

    • @biraoliverio
      @biraoliverio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Doug.Helvering Thanks! I recommend the album version.

    • @grubkiller1212
      @grubkiller1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We did it, friend!

    • @biraoliverio
      @biraoliverio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grubkiller1212 Good team work. I’m very curious to see Doug’s reaction, it’s a very different piece.

  • @rockdet
    @rockdet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "It's all of these people trusting each other and playing their individual part, trusting the leader to keep them in time, and we offer our sounds, and it blends with everybody else's sounds and it makes this thing that's greater than the sum of its parts."
    To feel that as a musician is the ultimate gift of music. Shivers

  • @serdar213
    @serdar213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    19:26 The Maestro is graduated from Movie Score composition in Berklee actually.

    • @chessbrainiac
      @chessbrainiac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And a huge Dream Theater fan, and had already before this concert arranged and performed several Dream Theater songs with an orchestra, and was specifically chosen because of this for this gig.

    • @serdar213
      @serdar213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chessbrainiac Yes, His name is Eren Basbug, He is a Turk. He made an orchestral cover to Octavarium with his student friends in Music School in Turkey in a conservative classical musical atmosphere and with some financial difficulties. After a while Rudess contacted him thanks to this video.

  • @peacekeeper3026
    @peacekeeper3026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's fun to see how as the song goes into the final part you quit breaking it down and start simply enjoying the music. It doesn't mean you cannot enjoy it from the very beginning, it just speaks for the perfection of their stuff. Am I not right?

  • @moldgrim1
    @moldgrim1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been a Dream Theater fan for 25 years, but you are the real attraction here, Doug. Amazing content. Hope you're well. Thanks for doing these videos.

  • @maureencrowley2921
    @maureencrowley2921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    We were at this show, about 7 rows in front of JM. Dream Theater never disappoints! This was a great tour and setlist..Space Dye Vest!!!-Tim

    • @philipturner6279
      @philipturner6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Space dye vest was epic in this show!

    • @HattoriHanzo09
      @HattoriHanzo09 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree, Space Dye Vest was absolutely amazing live

  • @tiagoamaro3272
    @tiagoamaro3272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That transition between jordan rudess solo to petrucci solo, fantastic maaan

  • @deadnoteguitar
    @deadnoteguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think I just love the idea that this musical genius (Dream Theater) is being appreciated by an expert like you. I feel like this must be known by any living being on the planet! Thanks Doug! As always. Peace&Love from Istanbul, Turkey.

  • @johnnyw8641
    @johnnyw8641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    DREAM THEATER - CHANGE OF SEASONS! PLEASE :)

  • @wurm90125
    @wurm90125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Try Haken-either The Architect or Messiah Complex. I guarantee you'll be impressed.

    • @manfredmar
      @manfredmar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Celestial Elixir, Visions and Crystallised are worth a listen aswell.

    • @alphaenemyplus8376
      @alphaenemyplus8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, you can't just say Dream Theater are the best at their craft without having at least heard Haken.

    • @manfredmar
      @manfredmar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alphaenemyplus8376 Haken Moved away from the DT sound on their last three albums IMO. They're definitely trying to make their own sound, which they have done I have to say.

    • @alphaenemyplus8376
      @alphaenemyplus8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@manfredmar well what's crazy is that with Aquarius they STARTED by not sounding much like DT, but then kinda did, but then branched out again.

    • @manfredmar
      @manfredmar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alphaenemyplus8376 Exactly!
      I would love to hear that sound again, I hope for the next album they don't do another "heavy" album like Vector and Virus. Not that they're bad, just to keep their discography fresh like it is ATM.

  • @arcam4981
    @arcam4981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    What about Milliontown by Frost*? A 30 minutes piece of modern epic pop-prog

  • @robertsimmons3336
    @robertsimmons3336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a huge Dream Theater fan who have seen them live 3 times I love your passion and joy in breaking these songs down for us. As a drummer and singer this band is my inspiration. As someone who only got through music theory2 in college you are my inspiration to get back to the basics and really learn and expand the reading side again! Thank you for all you do!

  • @peterichards3261
    @peterichards3261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Seen many many bands live since the early 70s. This band have repeatedly produced the best live performances I've ever seen. They don't really need an orchestra

  • @dughuff8825
    @dughuff8825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Have never been much of a DT fan thus far, but your enthusiasm for this piece has made me go and check them out. Thanks Doug for another great episode!

  • @neilmorgan9819
    @neilmorgan9819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always end up in tears when that last section starts those 4 perfect chords. It's amazing to see someone else getting the same joy as I do. Just stunning, life-affirming (musically AND lyrically in this case).
    I took my daughter to see the tour for the 'DT' album and this finale was one of the greatest moments of my life, definitely the greatest moment at a gig.
    We met JP outside afterwards too and I embarrassed my daughter by totally fangirling 😂

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now you must check from the same concert Breaking ali illusions... it's another masterpiece...

  • @panthrino4647
    @panthrino4647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "how they get to C ?"
    well... in the end they wrote surrender to the light. and light = 'C'
    E=MC2 right?

  • @ShredmasterScott
    @ShredmasterScott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    This was lit....I wanna see DT "Pale Blue Dot"

    • @AtomizedSound
      @AtomizedSound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don’t really care for their latest album but the beginning drum part of that song reminds me of some industrial rhythm machine.

    • @kevinqwen221
      @kevinqwen221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mmmhhahahaha

  • @johnquinn7794
    @johnquinn7794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How about Haken- Celestial Elixer. It’s kinda like Hakens version of Count of Tuscany.

  • @Conkee1711
    @Conkee1711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd forgotten how good this is. So emotional.

  • @DavidMacVicar
    @DavidMacVicar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is my favourite DT song. Been a fan since 1995. The classical piece in the middle makes me tear up. Incredible.

  • @psionic6126
    @psionic6126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The greatest musicians ever lived !!!!! And nobody can refute this.
    And when you think it's because of their age.....dude....they were already on this level at the age of 20.
    It is an honor to listen to their music. If this doesn't bring tears to your eyes....i don't know where things are....i cry all the time by the natural beauty of this melody

  • @randlerobbertson8792
    @randlerobbertson8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This to me, is the pinnacle for dreamtheater. Amongst many wondrous epics they have created, its my personal favourite. Live as portrayed here well!!!! - its incredible.

  • @jpirard
    @jpirard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    FLOWER KINGS, SPOCK'S BEARD, TRANSATLANTIC, MARILLION, BIG BIG TRAIN, PORCUCPINE TREE. GLASS HAMMER...kust to name a dew outstanding bands in the same genre.

  • @BasedRaven96
    @BasedRaven96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm always exhausted after listening to a DT epic song.. And it feels amazing! So many emotions and thoughts during it etc.

  • @mongoose4960
    @mongoose4960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Haha oh man, at 27:10 when Doug talks about being lifted from the experience 7 years later.... That's spot on. 2014 was my first round of Dream Theater concerts I ever saw. It was absolutely phenomenal.. Seeing them play Illumination Theory and then Finally Free for the encore still give me chills when I think about it. And I got to see them perform twice on the same tour! Once in America and once in Germany. Two of the best times of my life.

    • @tikolasola
      @tikolasola ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! Was in the first crowd that ever heard and saw Octavarium played live... still think about it to this day almost 18 years later.

  • @DanielVerberne
    @DanielVerberne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    26:44 - Man, Doug I love your appreciation. Just here, we hear as the band and Petrucci put in one of those beautiful, almost cinematic chord changes and I love how Petrucci outlines those changes. This is one of the big attributes that separates Dream Theater from some other musical groups - the ear for the truly 'cinematic' and truly 'epic' that many of us will have been at least partially familiar with because of movies, operatic tunes, etc. There's something very satisfying musically about it all, at least for me.

  • @jeffjones9448
    @jeffjones9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jordan Ruddess can do things that regular humans can't being a wizard and all. Ya know the Wizard's union is really hard to get into. Seriously, this piece is absolutely awe inspiring.

  • @DeckardRJ
    @DeckardRJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing, right?!! You're welcome!! They're the best band in the world!! Thank you so much for another great video!! Like you said, I hope it reaches more people out there and they too can enjoy this beautiful music and recognize these amazing musicians!!
    All the best and have a good weekend!!

  • @arbitrarymadness
    @arbitrarymadness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was there and feel privileged to have witnessed that show and that song. Goosebumps still.

  • @johnpfaff7532
    @johnpfaff7532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I love about these critiques is that Doug will go full theory, then full passion, while really being honest about what he thinks of the music. We love you, Doug!

  • @hamidvisuals
    @hamidvisuals ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This track is immense and just mind blowing. It will take you through the roller coaster of feelings. Listen to it if you feel down and unmotivated.

  • @leeDs718
    @leeDs718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    you haven't heard another band do it like Dream Theater because there exists none.

  • @adamjj85
    @adamjj85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was at that live show in Boston and I had goosebumps throughout the entire song!
    You have to check out Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence from Score live, also with an orchestra!

  • @jHeminway
    @jHeminway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was at this show they recorded this dvd at the Boston Opera House in 2014. Easily one of the top 3 concerts I’ve ever been to in my life. I don’t recall many dry eyes in the house at the end of this song. My girlfriend at the time wasn’t a DT fan at all, but came with me and walked out of there blown away. If you ever get the chance to catch them live, definitely do it. You won’t regret it. You’re right - I often think about how amazing this night was.
    And if you’re looking for another suggestion by them - I’d recommend doing the whole Scenes From A Memory album from start to finish. One of the most incredible concept albums ever created.

  • @Whizzer
    @Whizzer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If you thought this was good, wait till you hear Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence.

    • @mattolsziewski7164
      @mattolsziewski7164 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great track and I know that this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I have always preferred disc one. It seems many people disagree, but it really seems like the most experimenting they have ever done to me and I love it.

    • @wilko6679
      @wilko6679 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The thing with SDOIT is that the fans like to call it a single song. But aside from certain areas of the whole thing, the individual songs easily stand alone as opposed to the likes of Octavarium and A Change of Seasons for instance.
      However... Yes i do agree he should react to the whole thing. But it is likely he would treat it as 8 separate tracks

  • @CompleteProducer84
    @CompleteProducer84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could literally watch you break down DT songs all day! Another fantastic reaction/breakdown/lesson. This is such a great band for you channel, because there is a wealth of content (both musically and lyrically) that you can draw from and teach us about

  • @goktugdall9060
    @goktugdall9060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Also check The Ministry of Lost Souls by Dream Theater! I think it is one of their best.

  • @blandopher
    @blandopher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When they were touring that album I - unusually - still had not bought it and I didn't know the new songs. So when they played Illumination Theory and the wonderful orchestral interlude came with the animation video on the big screen it was like I was hit by a ton of bricks, I was so moved back then that I even shed some tears and even now while I'm writing my eyes get a little watery.

  • @fatalrailgun9972
    @fatalrailgun9972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my favorite kind of magnum opus dream theater has and hearing this song live is an experience I hope I can one day relive after we get out of our current predicment. Im supposed to see them again in febuary heres hoping that it still happens.

  • @Metzae
    @Metzae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was so much fun to experience along with you. They've been my favorite band since 1995, so I love it when other people discover them. I hadn't listened to this song in a long time, and I've never seen or heard a live version. So, it was awesome to watch you react the same way I did the first time I heard it. It really felt like we were watching together. You made my day. Thanks so much.

  • @spacepoulp4573
    @spacepoulp4573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for doing Dream Theater song reviews :) very interesting as always

  • @classicgamer3538
    @classicgamer3538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually feel like I was ascending during the entire video.....fantastic

  • @jan-ovepedersen5764
    @jan-ovepedersen5764 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dream Theater is the most epic band of my lifetime. I saw them live at Oslo Spectrum in January 2020. They played Distance Over Time in it's entirety, then a 15 minute intermission, then they played Metropolis, Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory in its entirety. This was my first Dream Theater show even I have been a fan since they released Images And Words back in 1992. Theis year I was luck and got a premium ticket close to the stage for their show at Oslo Spectrum on November 9th of 2024. I'm happy to be able to see them again this year, can't wait. I recommend you buying their concert DVD from the Boston Opera House - Breaking The Fourth Wall. The song you reacted to was from this venue, the DVD is as epic as it get. Greetings from Norway.

  • @adrienambroise333
    @adrienambroise333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great again! Again, Crystallised by Haken would defintely have its place on these friday reacts/analysis! 😁

  • @luv4all
    @luv4all 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love how you call it 'piece' not song.

  • @janawham3296
    @janawham3296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ya know, seeing someone experience different Dream Theater masterpieces, reminds me of why I love them. 9/10 times, you can see the genuine enjoyment on the listeners face. It's always a fun journey to watch.
    Once again petitioning for Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, specifically off of the Score album. It's a 42 minute monster, but it's *such* a worthwhile listen to.

  • @joshsimon5145
    @joshsimon5145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Doug! Thank you for doing this. This is exactly one of the songs that I thought would be great content for your channel. This is just amazing. Got goosebumps and tears in my eyes. What a powerful song.
    Simply amazing.

  • @sugheroatletico8166
    @sugheroatletico8166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    their masterpiece is "a change of seasons"

    • @antoniocarlin5026
      @antoniocarlin5026 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think SAME!! the old DT...... is the best, with Portnoy

    • @sandyferati3044
      @sandyferati3044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Change of Seasons is great, but the ending is a bit weak. This and Octavarium much grander endings.

    • @barefootalien
      @barefootalien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I couldn't disagree more. I've never seen what people go so nuts for about A Change of Seasons. It's one of the only pieces-and albums-of DT's that I actually _dislike._ IMO you could literally throw a dart at DT's entire catalog and have a near 100% chance of hitting something better. I even like Falling Into Infinity more, and that was _weird._
      Their true masterpiece, and I know it gets a ton of hate for reasons passing my understanding, is The Astonishing.

  • @jpdussan
    @jpdussan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Doug! What an amazing reaction video!!! and thank you for using my keyboard transcription as example. Did the best I could back in the day - I made a full cover of Illumination Theory on Keyboards short after making that transcription.

  • @Nineteenpointfive
    @Nineteenpointfive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You really know your sh** my brother…you’re about the only guy I listen to in regards to analyzing music..your ear, knowledge and your ability to break down music truly blows me away..I learn a lot from you. Thank you bro👊🏼

  • @cesarbravo822
    @cesarbravo822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Petrucci often includes Christian motifs and themes in his lyrics. This one might be a case of it (I think).

    • @hectorgaray3963
      @hectorgaray3963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how I'd always see it is as life lessons that share some essential knowledge with religious teachings. The problem can be when someone uses them to manipulate the masses to their own benefits.

  • @psyrik
    @psyrik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I went to this tour and can confirm, am still lifted by the memory!
    Also:
    Reptile by Periphery!! Its 16 Minutes long, and progressive metal! A Masterpiece for sure

  • @ericcindycrowder7482
    @ericcindycrowder7482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this great video. I’ve been a dream theater fan for almost 30 years, but I actually forgotten about this wonderful song. Thanks for helping me re-discover Illumination Theory!

  • @matheuskp25
    @matheuskp25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best of times Dream theater please!!

  • @danielnahuelpi
    @danielnahuelpi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Please do a reaction to Circus Maximus. It could be for "Burn After Reading" or "Architect of Fortune" :)

  • @isaacalfaro1098
    @isaacalfaro1098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hollow years live Budokan!!!

  • @andat7253
    @andat7253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when I first heard this song. I was so amased that I started to search about everything related to the song.
    Then I found an interview of Petrucci about it. He said that the orchestral part of the song was his request to Rudess to compose the most beautiful AND kind of sad orchestral piece.
    In the studio record, after the end of the song, there is some more composition. I also remember that Petrucci wanted to put this part like some kind of relaxation, because the song demands so much attention of the listener.
    I think all of that was about 7 years ago, but I remember until today.
    Sorry for any English mistakes, but I am a Dream Theater fan from Brazil.

  • @yibril17
    @yibril17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    NE OBLIVISCARIS, like Lorelei, still lies on a rock waiting to be reviewed... (yes, I'm hinting at the song “Eyrie”)

    • @Vukf1
      @Vukf1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and yes you are a man of culture.

    • @yibril17
      @yibril17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Vukf1 Guess I should take that as a compliment, yet far from feeling flattered, I'm helpless that these guys will be addressed after reacting to other 30 Iron Maiden's songs, other 15 songs from Dream Theater, other 10 from *insert popular band name here*, plus a bunch of songs from *insert well-known, yet not-so-popular band name here*... It's quite saddening, to say the least.

    • @jinmira
      @jinmira 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Libera

  • @tomassvitorka
    @tomassvitorka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Amazing reaction and music.
    I'd love to see your reaction to Snarky Puppy - Lingus.
    It's a true masterpiece.

    • @alphaenemyplus8376
      @alphaenemyplus8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That keyboard solo by Cory Henry.

    • @tomassvitorka
      @tomassvitorka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alphaenemyplus8376 yeah!!! I think it would be a real treat for Doug 😉

    • @alphaenemyplus8376
      @alphaenemyplus8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomassvitorka and think it'll be a real treat for me right now, come to think of it !