Razor Scooter Controller Testing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ม.ค. 2020
- Shows how to test Razor Scooter Controllers. From the pros, here at Wild Scooter Parts!
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Just got a free E175 for my son. I tested the batteries and were bad. I spent around 30 dlls for new batteries. Went trough the hazzle of changing the connectors. Then the scooter will not work. I could hear the click. Took it apart 3 times and assumed the controller was bad since each time it clicked I would get around 0.2 volts going to the motor. Was about to go to bed and order the new controller in the morning. Decided to watch your video and just learned that the 100 series need a kick before starting. That was the issue 😂... Many Manu thanks for the video!!!! My son is happy now.
I get the same click on my son's Razor 35O & I think they don't need the kick start but I'm gonna check to see if the batteries r bad. Idk what else it could b ??
*Came in today and my friend and I both rode **Latest.Bike** Scooter around for about an hour. Was lots of fun and didn't drain the battery much at all!*
Razor should pay you to train their service department. Best video I have seen on this subject.
Best comment ever! Thank you! If you need anything hit us up for a discount!
@@WildPowerSports I would like plans for that test rig you used. is power supplied to the second motor or is it there to just provide a load?
Just another motor to use as a load, no power supplied. @@grnmtns1
This is the best bench test video for troubleshooting the Razon e175. I'm up and running after the brake wire jump. Thank you for posting!
If I would have just listened to this whole video the very first time instead of searching for another one it would have answered every question I had.
Razor Scooter Controller mother board testing ,we need anew video like this ,Thanks dear .
2 things - your ion generator is a 1 and a 0, or high and low (on and off). 😅 The second is the infamous 'click' on the E100 with the necessary push off. You saved me on that one! THANK YOU! Now to put it all back together...
You are an amazing teacher! Simplifying for better understanding is very hard to do, and you master it.
I have news about your "ion drive"! It's not a "I" and an "O", it's a 1 (one) and a 0 (zero). It's from the old days of computers and electrical engineering. 0 is off and 1 is on.
Hope that helps. But I do like the Ion Drive bit. ;-)
Never knew that! But the ion drive method is a good way to remember it, everyone ive told that to has never forgot!
Very good video, thanks for taking the time to impart your knowlage.
You are a great man. You explain so well. My scooter will now be working again.
100% helpful. Didn't know about the "kick off" until now. Thank you very much!!!!
AWESOME VIDEO 👍 keep up the great Work 👍... my sins Razor 350 makes that click sound & I'm gonna try to jump that break line after I check the batteries first. Thanks again
You saved me some annoyance with my nephew's E175. Thank you.
good video! Very helpful
Thank you for taking the time and effort to do this video, very helpful.
DUDE THIS FUKING VIDEO IS AWESOME BRO U ROCK solving alot of problems in this video
Thanks man!
Great video. Thanks.
One of the best explanations I have come across for differences in the controllers. Thanks for sharing your experience. You have gone past what the customer service explains over the phone.
I'm sending you an ATTABOY. Excellent job explaining
VERY informative. To the point with no flashy BS. One question. Where is that jumper wire connected to simulate the kick off. Picked up an E100 Power Core at the resale shop on the cheap. Batteries good, motor good. brake switch good. now I can test the controller. Thanks.
Great video thanks.
I never like comment or subscribe to anyone. Cause f them when they beg. But you definitely got a big like from me on this. Very helpful. Thank you sir
We appreciate that!
Thank you, very much!
Great video. Thanks! Btw the on and off symbols on the switch refers to binary. 1 is on and 0 is off.
Yep, but remembering ion generator people never seem to forget.
Yea u just saved me lots of money
Great video. I'm still stumped though. I just installed new batteries (Interstate) and a new controller, but I only get that clicking sound when I hit the throttle. I have a Razor GFD Fury.
We do have a paid support option on our website, but if you would have bought the batteries from us, full support would be free.
*AWESOME* *THANK U* *CATER*
Thanks my friend a lot
Awesome !!! Clap clap !!! Thanks
Thank you
You skipped the only part I needed to know!! How you wire up a variable speed contoller to it!
Thats because you Cant "Wire a variable speed controller to it". You need an entire new throttle and controller, which we sell as a kit. wildscooterparts.com/catalog/product/view/id/56/s/razor-e300-variable-speed-throttle-kit/
I have a crazy question. I just picked up an mx650 that someone was about to trash. It has been sitting for 2+ years outside. I have a functioning mx350 in the garage- can I connect the 650 motor to the 350s controller to see if it’s still functioning? The 350 is still 24v stock setup. No modifications at all. I am awaiting new batteries for the 650 and also have no idea if the 650s esc is still functional.
Excellent… I have question
I replaced the power button, the reset button and batteries, It looks like is charging, but the power button never turns red. How can I fix that ?? The scooter is running, but the charger don’t get green too. Could you help me with that ?? Ty👍🏽🙏
Good job God bless you
I actually had burned the whole wire up going to the on off switch hooking it up wrong and thought I was going to buy another controller at the least because I even hooked it back off and saw the light off so I thought it wasn't working. It ran the whole time and I would have never known.
I am aware that you are demonstrating parts of a E bike but I believe a mobility scooter pots work the same. I am trying to troubleshoot a Rascal 305 mobility scooter for a low income gentleman that can not afford to take the scooter into a shop. He said that it just quit working one day. The scooter also has the electric adjustable seat. With the key turned to the right the potentiometer (via the forward/reverse levers) controls the scooter drive motor. With the key turned to the left the potentiometer controls the up/down of the seat height. Both the drive of the scooter and the seat height adjustment are not working. Since the potentiometer controls both this is where I started my troubleshooting. I have 25 volts at the battery, the key switch input and outputs (when on). I jumped from the battery to the drive motor and to the seat adjustment motor and both work.
The potentiometer has the following voltage readings:
Input: 3.68v
Wiper: 2.5v (no matter where the speed dial is set)
Ground: 1.3v
Should the input be the full 25 volts or is it reduced at the controller box and when received back at the controller jumped back up before going to the motor?
The speed pot voltage is:
2.5v at both wires.
I am trying to figure out if the forward/reverse pot is bad or if it's the speed control pot or if it is the controller box.
Any help would be appreciated.
So to test the motor on the 24v scooter you just have to connect power and ground??
I have a razor quad with new batteries and fuse. When I turn on power. The throttle lights will light up for a second then disappears? Any thoughts if it’s bad throttle or control module?
For the problem i’m having with the speed kit is that the pedal don’t work when i connect it. Does it matter what model i have? By the way nothing is wrong with my pedal bc i connected it to my stock controller and it worked but not with the speed kit.
It's numbers one and zero, not letters I and O. in binary or machine language, the number one means on, yes, go, etc. Zero means no, off etc. I first saw this on the original IBM PC back in the 80's. Now they use it for everything because math is like a universal language.
Thanks for that! We have repaired thousands of scooters, and even designed our own controller boards but none of the 10 of us here knew that! Very cool. But we will stick with "I means ion generator"...so quicky its hard to forget!
or O for "off" :D @@WildPowerSports
My son's Razor E150 motor starts rolling but shuts off after few seconds. Also, the contoller doesn't click when throttle is pressed. Can you suggest what could be the possible cause of this?
Question. I have a USA 120v version of the German full-sized scooter Charly. The controller box appears to be toast. Is it possible to repair this box? Do you do this?
Yes, you can repair anything...but for the price of a new one, its not worth it. Simply buy a new one at wildscooterparts.com
I have a razor sx 500 last fall was working great now I plug in charger says charged when turn on while plugged in throttle lights up as soon as unplug throttle goes out and does nothing I believe it’s a bad charge controller but not sure also did battery swap still same thing but charge controller is only a year old replaced shortly after bought? Have any idea on what problem is?
i can probably google it, I just started to understand the razor scooter. my question is. what year of early or in general are the start and current years for the models present.
if this could help me pinpoint where I am. still learning. thanks for that great video.
Basically from the beginning of Razors. The early ones used a variable speed system which is different.
What should the voltage reading be from the wire that leaves the e100 controller to the motor ? Thanks.
We dont say, because this is not useful info in diagnosing the scooter. On the E100, you need to kick off, and should see some voltage on kick-off....coming from you generating it by kicking off! Then the motor kicks in. We never measure this when diagnosing, no need to. If you test the motor and its good and do everything we show, there is no need to confuse yourself here.
I have a 24v Atv. Version 11 if that makes a difference. All of these verified: power from battery, voltage going to and from throttle. Everything is working, BUT I can’t get any voltage to go to motor. It’s not low voltage cut off, breaks are normally in, tried both ways. Took apart the controller and have power going in just no power will go out via the ground if throttle is twisted. Yellow motor wire from controller has voltage too. Only thing I can tel is maybe the little black box in the controller is faulty? I really want to figure out!!! Thanks if you can help!
Thank you for making this video. It really helped.
So I just got a new controller for my son's mx350 bike (his had some bad connectors that got melted) I hooked it up like you showed and had the two extra red wires left but the bike didn't run, so I remembered you say they go to the switch. I unplugged two wires from the switch and plugged those in and it runs. But I'm still having an issue with when I go to charge it, the charger light stays green. I have the same bike for my daughter and use the same charger and the charger goes red when I plug hers in to charge and after charging for a while it will go green to let you know it's charged. I just replaced the batteries yesterday to see if that was the issue, but I'm still having the same problem with the charger. Can you please help? Thank you
If the charger never goes to red there is a issue between the charger and the controller. Check all wires, and try a new charger. Did you forget to reconnect the charger port?
@@WildPowerSports i did, and found that for some reason the new controller was not sending power to the charging port. So I just went and bypassed the controller to the charge port, and went from the charge port straight to the batteries. That did the trick! Everything works and my son is happy and has been riding it since with no issues.
@@natashanapolitano3944 Exactly what we do here. Straight to the batteries.
Can u show how to get rid of the cut off switch mine keeps turning off bat every couple yards
I have a scooter that has a reset button that is pressed in. but can't be pressed out. What do you think is the problem?
What is the circuit called? Getting it moving before power goes to motor. Would like to look it up to see how it works.
I have a razor Ground Force electric Go Kart. Battery reads 24 volts wheels turn but not enough power to move a small child. Is it the controller?
I got a different problem.i found a e 150 in the trash and all that was wrong with it was the batteries. I took 2 20 volt lithium drill batteries and it worked fine .faster longer ride time etc.
Well just today I recharged the batteries and when I went to turn on the power switch the scooter took off. No kick just straight wide open .I made sure nothing was touching inside the deck and tried it again this time with the scooter sitting on stand to prevent it from climbing the wall but again,the scooter was wide open as soon as I turned o. The switch.im clueless and as I suspected,any video or trouble shooting is geared towards the won't run problems.
No matter how I word the Google search it doesn't seem to be a popular problem.
So,what did I fry?
I'm sure this has to do with the 40 volts that I am using.
Any answers would be great.
Dear Sir!
my son’s 24v razor dirty bike dose not move however I replaced new battery what do you think what’s wrong with it and should be the controller plaz?
I want to upgrade my batteries, throttle and speed controller on my razor ecosmart metro sit down scooter that is 36 volt, 500w motor what’s the best way to do that?
Best way is with a universal controller , throttle, battery, and charger from our web site. Do NOT upgrade the motor, that will slow the unit down. You will add a 4th battery and go to 48V...thats what you want to do.
Hi! Great video! So here’s my situation, I have a razor mx500, just swapped out the motor and speed controller and throttle , batteries are a year old . I got power to everything and then everything just shut off and no more power. I went ahead and bought new batteries, still nothing. The fuse is also fine and all connections are good. What I noticed is that it died right when I plugged the charger into it.. am I killing the speed control module?
Well, if you have no power its got to be the power switch or a bad connection.
@@WildPowerSports thanks
Have a Razor Power Core E90. Replaced the 12V battery as it was dead. Still not running. This unit has a ZK1200-DH controller.
Diagnostics: (1) Continuity for brake (when in a released position) & push button throttle (when depressed) both check OK (2) Continuity for on/off switch checks good (3) 12.9v measured going into the controller (at controller side connector to the battery) (4) 12.9 V measured between the controller's brown Mid Pin & Yellow wires that connect to the on/off switch (5) Connected 12V battery directly to motor & it sparks up instantly.
I suspected the controller, so I replaced it and am getting the same results...will not run even with a good kickstart.
What I am not seeing/hearing: When the throttle button (as there is no rotating throttle) is depressed, I do not hear any clicking in the controller (never have since I began troubleshooting it). This is the case for both the original controller and the replacement controller.
Quick question: Should I be able to measure the output voltage to the motor at the output connector (blue & brown wires) from the controller (when on & throttle button depressed) or does the controller wait until the kick is sensed before sending 12V to the motor? I am getting ZERO volts from the controller's output voltage to the motor in a static condition & throttle engaged...just don't know if that is normal.
Not sure what the next step should be besides throwing it in the garbage 😀 Thanks for any insight on this...
My issue is I have no lights on my throttle for my razor drifter. Batteries are good. Any ideas?
The man
The charger is good, batteries are good, motor works. But when weight is put to the scooter it will not move. Any suggestions?
Low tire pressure, junk batteries. DO NOT BUY "Mighty Max" or any no-name batteries, this is what happens people when you do. We have genuine razor batteries, and batteries from UPG. We also charge, test, and sync packs before we ship them.
So wires for the switch, what color are they? That switch went out on mine when I swapped batteries to lithium batteries after a while. Can 36 v controller be shuntmoded ? Is it worth shunting for more power? You said throttle is one speed, I disagree. It's variable on ones I've encountered n worked on. (Rsf650s).
Only an electrical kick will make e100 run not a manual turn of motor?
got an e100 for my son and im not happy with the throttle. its either on or off. didn't no when i bought it that it was not progressive. how can i change this as its actually quite dangerous.
If the throttle not connected when you turn do they make a clicking noise
My E200 has a 4 wire throttle controller (red, green, yellow, yellow) I cant find any diagrams that indicate what each wire is for. Is red power, green ground and both yellow sense wires?
So my son has a MX400 that seems to charge and takes off, but will only go about 1 mph. Do you think it’s the battery, or maybe the motor?
Battery. We have said it many times. 95% of the time the issue is old batteries. Checking voltage when the scooter isnt running MEANS NOTHING. Its under load where your bad batteries will show their weakness.
i have a razor dirt quad for my kids it kept saying low battery even when they where full i bought new batterys and it did the same thing i replaced the on off switch it fixed it
Sounds like you need to talk to a tech. Did you buy the batteries from us? If so we will give you unlimited phone support to get it going. If not, try to contact the company you got them from (Good luck).
Hi. Great video but I still need some help. We have an MX350. Throttle is completely unresponsive, not even clicking. I just replaced the batteries and still nothing. Power switch lights up, but absolutely nothing happens when you give it throttle. Thoughts?
Same problem I have zr350 razor ,switch light works motor works no throttle
@@db2955ever figure out the issue's
Hi nice video
HI
I have a variflex stinger electric scooter, here are the specs
Variflex Stinger Electric Scooter Specifications: Two 12 Volt 12Ah SLA batteries, 24 Volt DC motor, 575-5M-15 HTD drive belt, 2-speed off/on/on pull lever throttle, 10"x2" tires and tubes, rear band brake, 24 Volt AC 2 Amp output battery charger
Between my buddy and I we have some good tech abilities, the question is, what would be the best way to make this scooter FASTER?
Do we just get a stronger motor?
Can we wind this one tighter?
Get a better battery?
Maybe just go with a 36v battery and be done with it?
I was wondering if you could give me some ideas to make this thing ROCK
What is the resistance on the motor
what happens if you don't hear the click? batteries are good motor is good but I don't hear the click coming out of the speed controller
The I and 0 on the switch has to do with binary system that works with only two numbers 1 and 0. The I is a one and 0 is zero. So 1 is power and zero of course zero power. But thanks for the wiring explanation. I was wandering where the hell the two red wires go. Now I know.
But the "ion generator" thing is somthing people remember. Very Silly, but very easy to remember!
"Zero" power seems easier and slightly more related than "ion", but whatever works for a person.
I'm always shocked at how many people have no idea it's in binary, I guess switch companies need to put some money into advertising.
Good vid..Why my scooter slows down after 6 blocks and a full charge..Is the motor going..PLEASE HELP!
Bad batteries, 100%. Guys, as we have said 100 times....its ALMOST ALWAYS THE BATTERIES
My old mx350 has new battery’s, new hand throttle, doesn’t drop volts when I hit the throttle, but no click? I’m new to this thing but I’m handy. Do I need a new throttle controller?
Follow the video. Check for power at the thick red and black on controller. Also, disconnect the wires from the brake handles to rule that out.
I just got scammed on a poxket mod and it came with 4 6 volts wired together and all of the fittings cut off.
I was able to find a 12 and 2 of rhe 6v, and find out what else is wrong. On the charger, the motor makes a deep whining and it shuts on and off and so does the power light.
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Link to your website for parts please?
I have a razor pocket mod my question is, How do I get that charger connected behind the charger?
Charger behind the charger???
hi Bro!!! i have a razor core e100 and i dont hear a click!! also the charger always stay on green, that means dont pass the charge?, wath can i do?, please help mi daughter cant play any more,
My friend , My mx350 runs slowly ,I press the trottle, and the wheel moves slowly,the controller is new,the battery is 24 or 26 volts when I check it , what could it be ?
I have a razor pocket mod batterys are charged 25v but just clicks when throttling help please
I have the 100 battery good
No goo switch bypass
But I don't hear any klik in the module
Can you make the video razor E prime 3 how to check the motor,controller. Because my not working. Thank you
Can I splice and run a key’d throttle on the stock razor dirt quad controller? Or do I need to upgrade controller to change?
On the Dirt Quad you actually can do this, but you will need to know how to wire. DO NOT just go by wire color....there is NO STANDARD for scooter wire colors so you will most likley blow up the throttle.
@@WildPowerSports I found the wiring diagram for the Razor quad. Figured I could match to my key’d throttle diagram. Just didn’t know if the controller would accept it or not.
So if i replace the controles is go work?
I have a problem with my schwinn .. I replaced all 3 batteries and once fully charge 36v I take off on scooter goes a few steps then it shuts down. What can it be?
Once again, junk batteries. Guys, stop buying the cheapest batteries you see. They are cheap for a reason!
My power switch light doesn't come on unless the charger is plugged in but the scooter does run but I'm not sure if it's charging or not cause the light on the charger stays green all the time.
Oh it's is a razor E100 electric scooter
I have a controller that clicks but doesn’t have wires for the brake. Has the 6 pin throttle plug though.
I’m lost
i think i picked up half a dozen solid pointers watching this video
=). We try!
Should I charge the new battery before using it?
Yes! Always!
What brands of 12 volts batteries for Razor Ecosmart bike you recommend in 12 to 15 amps?
The ones we sell here at wildscooterparts.com. Its not just the brand. When we send batteries we charge then match them. Very Very important step.
Hi John, bought a 36 volt quad for my 4 year old nephew...will it work on 12 volts so its not too fast for him?
miningwayne no it won’t be enough voltage
@@matthew-clarkkeeble7015 yes mate, we worked that out...lol
No, it will not. Contact us to have us make you a speed limiter.
Hi hope you read this. Im tryna repair a e100. Bought a new control mod. Still no clicks ive tested battery, and motor and throttle. All work. I hooked them up to a razor moped controller and i get a click. But i dont get no click with my old or new controller. What else to be the problem. Thank you
Hard to tell. Take everyhting out of the unit and do exactly what we do in this video. Take the time to do it right.
I have a razor 350 when you turn the main switch on did engage the motor and the back wheel starts to turn why
Most likely bad throttle
Can some help me please really Struggling with my e100 tried so many things just don't understand my battery are producing 24v tried changing the control module power rev reset button switch not receiving a click for the rely motor is reading 3.0 Resistance but not receiving any voltage or Resistant from the blue and yellow wires coming from the control module can some help me please would be appreciated thanks
Where can i find 10inch rear wheel for razor e300 scooter?
How can by pass the kick to start it?
The switch "I" is not an "I" as in capital "i", its a 1 (one) , the "O" is a zero 0. IT's as in digital logic 1 is high or on, 0 is low or off. They should just print On or OFF, is it that hard? for them. I guess it keeps it language neutral.
I for indeed and 0 for off
Hi, thought your video was great. i have a schwinn missle fs, at full throttle it makes a clunk noise about every 30 seconds. can you help me? thx john
Thats hard to diagnose online, your going to need to bring it to a repair center.
I have a e195 and the throttle goes straight to the controller , no connectors?
Yea, some of the older ones have it like that.....
connected e300 controller reverse polarity any part in controller to replace ? fuse inside ?
No, just replace controller...
Question... my motor spins when on the bench but not on the ground. No matter how much I kickoff
Soooo you think it's the batteries. 😁
@@virtualvinnie 95% of the time its batteries!
@@WildPowerSports you were 100% right. I fixed 2 out of 3 by simply replacing the batteries. Thank you so much!
The 3rd one doesn't click when I pull the throttle so I'm guessing it's the controller.
@@virtualvinnie Boom! Now if everyone would just try batteries first, we would all have a lot less broken scooters!