New BMW M5 vs BMW S1000RR superbike
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We pit the storming BMW F10 M5 against the brand's hottest superbike: the S1000RR.
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This race is done by a car enthusiast channel, of course its going to be bias, same as the biker channels are. Truth of the matter is round a track top performance cars and bikes are very close, cars having the main advantages under braking and the bikes under acceleration. however value for money for the performance, motorbikes are unbeatable, but they take a lot more skill to drive fast and are a lot more dangerous. ride safe, peace!
If it was a dry track with an actual professional rider, the bike would destroy the M5
I agree
Relax, we all know that.
If bike win in this video. Many comment of biker are different.
I wonder which one has the highest survivability in some sort of an accident - like with a cable barrier or something...
what about trying it on a dry track
Ben Legacy Not easy in Britain...
Auto Express in Britain cars r faster.....
Auto Express Film in a place thats not a shit hole then.
Fucking shitty England always raining, fuck that place and it's arabs
TGSNT Chaaalay oi.
Monster bike vs an absolute legend of a car. Win-win for me, really.
VedderTheFixer mllOP
Do you want to feel alive and fight for your live? Buy the bike!
Do you want to have fun and live after that? Buy the car!
Both are amazing! I would have both! Depending on my mood.
guys who ride AND drive know bikes are waaaaaaaaaay more fun and satisfying.
No doubt. I chuckle when I see guys who don't ride spending several thousands of dollars on their cars to make them faster when you can go out and buy a cheap beater bike that'll blow the doors off most cars lol.
Okay but turbo E36 2.5 L is a true beast, 600 hp and you can beat Suzuki sportbike 750
+Hen zo who cares. 22K buys you a Ninja H2 and not a car in the world is going to catch that. and now bikes like the R1M have slide control and gyros. look, fast is fast, but I promise you the guy on the bike is having 100 times more fun and thrill. cars are cool too! but unless you have a fortune to spend on a car, and I mean a fortune, you will never beat a bike. your bolt on turbo civics are only cool at the stoplight game, nothing else.
Who cares about Honda civic. Bikes are 100 times more fun than cars ?, do you drive BMW ?, because i driven both and choose BMW and Ninja H2 is good only on stright lane on circuit i can beat that with tuned E36. Look:
M3 E36 V10 800HP+ vs Kawasaki zx10r 191hp
/watch?v=X3R5s5WXt0g
Thats it i have nice car now and Miss my bike so much i am always jealous when i See Bikers now
If the M4 is faster on a track against the M5 and if the S1000RR wins against an M4 on a wet track... what fairy tale are you trying to tell here? We get that you guys at AutoExpress are all car boys, but there is no shame to admit the motorcycle would have won.
Yeah lets put a bike on a wet road and put it up against a car....... on a dry road that car would of not even got close to it.... it would of lost ground....
Cars never beat bikes. Bikes are powerful and handles better than a car. In this video the bike is just doing casual riding
Take a look at the Isle of Man TT record. By car: ~350 bhp rally car driven by a professional driver to its limits, set a record of 19 minutes, 37 seconds. Every year both the 600cc and 1000cc class bikes set lap times in the 17.20s-17.50s.
Bike have a severe disadvantage when it's wet out... It's not at all like a car. A bike can actually slip and kill the rider much easier than a cage.
nice bike and
A cage... -_-
In my country, bmw z4 crash on wet street and driver died but naked bike crash on wet street biker and his girl friend safe and survived. Car aren't always safety both dangerous and require skill!!!
....well... so you demonstrate that a bike is less quick than a car on a very wet circuit... genius......
this track is always wet...
PostCulture So... It's better to change the location ;)
As opposed to all the videos that show a bike is faster than a car in the dry and conditions are absolutely perfect? Genius....
Ajay Kumar The fact is that it's obvious... and it's not a good comparison. The car is not quicker than the bike because it's a good car, but because it's wet... I mean, with wet track even a 60 bhp car could be quicker than a bike (if you race on a circuit with lots of corners for example). So the point is that this comparison is meaningless
If this is obvious, then a liter class super bike beating a car when it's bone dry is obvious too. It's obvious that a bike will be quicker unless you consider insanely expensive HyperCars. One race in the wet and everyone starts complaining.
Why doing this test on a wet road? Loosing grip in a bend would badly injure the S1000rr-rider. The M5 would just get dirty. This test makes no sense at all.
Next test: M5 vs Snowmobile... on a dry f1-track in summer?
Even though it was wet, the bike had a 10 second head start with a power-weight ratio of more than 1:1, and a MASSIVE straight-line advantage. This test just shows how good the M5 is.
3:57 more thrilling part! Goosebumps when the bike feels the car right in the back and uses all the power.
A Bike with summer tyres in a wet circuit, against an M5, how Brave is that !
One of the shittest test ever !!!! A 600cc would beat that bmw m5 on a dry track never mind 1000rr .... Makes me laugh wen almost every car vs bike race is in the wet ...... Bikes rule on track end of
True
***** but slower than the BMW or Ducati Pinigale 😂
Hahaha is that all you have got ? Cars are more compfy ??? Haha tgats won me mate im completely off bikes now thats me done. Im gunna sell my r1 and buy a fiesta. Thanks for telll ng me this i didnt know!!!! Dick head!!!!
Can u afford £500,000 + ? No you cant so that not a reason plus a £5000 litre bike will leave it behind. Why dont you fuck off and comment on peppa pig or sumat. You obviously know fuck all bout bikes and cars
Why so Butthurt???
The bike isn't even trying, it's set up like all the others. I'd like to see one of these tests for real and not some fake shit.
Like the test they made with a Lambo LP and the Ducati? The Ducati won and boy that for sure was a real race, with all the data for us to see. I don't remember the video on TH-cam, but if you find it you will know, it as two parts and there are japanese pilots.
S1000RR:
0-100 km/h in 2.8 seconds.
0-200 km/h in 6.7 seconds.
0-300 km/h in 17 seconds.
Top speed limited to 305-310, ecu flash gets it up to 320+.
The producers should be fired for this video.
Stupid test to do on a wet track.....means nothing....
+Dominique Haupt Why? stupid to race a sports bike against a 5 seater large saloon car eh?
Andrew D it lost tho lol
@@tricktop9064 lost when the bike has 10 second head start lol
Fekyu Jason it lost when it thought it could complete with a liter bike lol a sport bike is always gonna beat a car on a track or straight away endless their are some weird conditions
on a dry track, the M5 wouldn't know which way the bike went. That might differ with the X-drive M5.
Auto Express...the bikers are calling you out. Re-run this test in the dry! ;)
Dry track ! Then you can give a 10 sec advantage to the M5.
peter schiller LOL :P
The reviews from the u.k. Are always in the rain.
I will definitely go for the bike
lol what a waste of time and production value to put a bike and a car together with wet roads, but hey it's their money so I can't say nothing :)
What a stupid video. So what did we see here? Motorcycles are much faster due to their superior power to weight ratio. However on a dangerously wet track they'll have to slow down enough that a powerful car can almost catch them.
What's next? Can an Olympic sprinter wearing ski boots outrun a somewhat athletic high school student? Tune in next week!
well said bro :) God bless u
The difference between your stupid example and this test is that in this test the two competitors are in the SAME conditions.
And even if your statement about power to weight ratio is true, it's not the only parameter that makes a vehicle fast around a track.
I mean look at a Formula 1.
"The bike, on summer tyres, in the wet" why even bother.
To be honest, one of the better bike v car reviews I have seen. The point most will have missed is... The infinite number of variables means both are good in their own way. I've owned fast bikes and 'OK' cars. Both have their place in Tesco's car park...
Cool footage.. Great channel content.. Subbed!
Haha an s1000rr on a wet track with leaves on and then on summer tires . Come on man a scooter will do just as fast . I am actually surprised that the m5 did not win big time.
The s1000rr rider is probably riding in rain mode and the engine is restricted to 160hp .
how do you do a test like that in the wet?
if the bike exaggerates lies down, the 'car was always askew...
ridiculous
in the dry the bike would win by far
Next time to keep it equally fair have them race around back words in reverse--bike still gets a 10 sec head start. Since the M5 has a reverse gear and the bike has 1hp per kilo plus traction control should be equally fair race
All these people going crazy in the comments, did you watch the video before commenting? I've watch a few of these Car vs Bike vids from Auto Express and they are in no way biased to the cars, they make the tests fair if anything I'd say they looked more on side with the bikes! They compliment them, explain how they are more bang for buck etc etc, I only ride bikes but love good cars to, good videos guys, keep them coming.
Bikes are for real men. You car guys couldn't even handle a sportsbike.
If you can't afford a car, then you buy a bike.
MetaxaGallarado
Bullshit. Almost every biker has a car as well. Most of them have families, and you can't take your wife and children on the back of a bike, can you?
Besides, a proper bike costs about 20k dollar or 15k euro's. More than enough for a nice second-hand car.
MetaxaGallarado If you can't drive, you buy a car.
DolleHengst Yes probably, a car worth 10k or even less to get from A to B and that's it. Be honest now, if you had the wealth to buy a Audi RS5 or a car in that class, would you still pick a 2 wheeler that everyone can have?
GerwinPlanet Your comment did not make any sense
Of course! ..the car BMW M5 could not across ahead BMW S1000RR superbike , the way that sperbike slipping smartly left and right ..lol thanks for vid bro
another m5 fanboy its funny that BMW doesnt have a super car and even the japanese do lol....
I'm so sorry XD..you comment makes no sense to me , no need to replay it
replay it well tht english is grt too
Exactly, the M5 was struggling NOT to overtake the bike. Probably would've ran over the bike.
First of all, comparing a bike and a car in wet conditions is completely retarded. If you think the M5 stands a chance against the s1000rr in dry conditions. You need serious help. If you try pushing the bike slightly too hard in the wet you're going down. Same with acceleration. The contact patch is just too small. Cars have much more contact patch. Both machines are awesome and would be a lot of fun to drive. But the bike would be much faster around a dry track. My 2 cents.......
Who the fuck cares if a bike is faster than a car around a track? I can't imagine anyone watching this video and going "Fuck! I was going to pick up my new M5 on the weekend..... Fuck it! The bike was quicker! Better phone and cancel my order and pick up the bike instead. Fuck the wife and kids, they'll have to walk everywhere from now on"
If you don't care which is faster, then why did you watch the fucking video? Makes no dam sense. It's like ordering food, you don't like it and yet you eat it anyway
+Professional Hacker So your telling me that you give a fuck that the bike was quicker? You'll sleep better at night?
Bill Paxton what difference does it make if I care or not
Ditto.....
Bill Paxton lol, whatever. It's besides my point
It's the UK, it's always raining :-)
Finally a voice of reason.
Once again, car vs bike on a WET track, will we ever see the day of a race on a DRY track?
And on summer tires, so the least amount of grip possible under these conditions, bar slicks. Want to stick a restriction kit on there while we're at it?
Matt Watson?
Yes it is a younger matt watson
The weather and track conditions make this test pointless
Most bikers have no idea how fast these cars really are. Raced a 1000cc bike yesterday from 130-300+ km/h in my V10 M5. Both races were extremely even between the two with the bike catching up around the 190-250 span but loosing out after 250 when the unlimited E60 killed it with its 320km/h top speed.
A bit of a shock to see Matt Watson on this channel after seeing him on car wow!
The M5 didn't pass the bike is because he don't want to kill the biker.
Put some proper tyres on the rr and the m5 wouldnt stand a chance even if its wet. IMO its just stupid to compare cars to bikes since they are so different
probable tyres? if a big sedan 9 seconds faster, the bike won't go alot faster compare with M5 even with "probable tyre" on. Or fine, I'll be nice, let's pretend the bike go 11s faster, still 2 seconds ahead a big heavy sedan lol.
Skare147 rocket is aways trying to compare the two. Those of us that both drive and ride understand the incomparability of the two. For little boys obsessed with cars they can only dream about, the idea that some one could have more excitement and exhilaration on a different machine, for just a few pounds, well it kills him.
Listen to the commentator. If he had the guts he'd have the bike. In the dry the car wouldnt catch the bike. The bike was on summer tyres not suitable for the wet. Is this the only example you can find? Id keep quite about it as its making you look silly.
New top speed for a production bike 207 mph not sure of kph.
Do this test with the wet track, have no sense!!!
Make the freaking fair compare please, the bike would had beat the car badly if this was a dry track. There is no way a car can win a bike in any race, even drag race.
a car can beat a bike in a straight line, but it won't be a stock car outside of something like an F1, Veyron, etc. a proper sports car will brake and turn harder than a bike. but... you can get insane performance from a bike for under 20 grand. to get anywhere near with a car you're looking at nearer 200 grand. and bikes are more fun anyway. because wheelies.
How is the comparison not fair? The track isn't always going to be dry, especially not in Britain. The M5 was a full nine seconds faster, that's a huge difference on such a short track.
Jethro Rose BMW S1000RR, Ducati Panigale, etc vs BMW M5, Mecerdes C63 BUT F1, Veyron,etc vs Suzuki Hayabusa, Kawasaki ZX 14R. Yes, 20 grand vs 200 grand, you don't get leather seat, trunk, air conditioner...in a bike! can't compare the price between 2 completely different things man! We're talking about speed. The MTT Turbine Bike (Y2K) will beat anything (except a plane.)
the y2k doesn't turn for shit, and will get destroyed on track, probably by something like a 600RR
thatabu The M5 was a second faster because the track was soaked in water. Do you know how badly water affect bike's performance? You can't push it even close to its limits. In the dry the s1000rr would have spanked the M5. The M5 has no chance against this bike.
A car mag is going to be biased. This is one circuit in wet conditions with one driver and one rider. If you bother to look up a full range of circuits such as Brands Hatch, Eastern Creek, Phillip Island, Laguna Seca, Donnington, Oulton park, you will see that production car and motorcycle lap times are close. Sometimes bikes are way ahead and sometimes cars by a few seconds. This circuit favors cars, especially in the wet. Rider skill effects times more than car driver skills.
Hey I'm Matt Watson 🤣🙌
Just shows that bikes are completely useless even in slightly damp conditions. In Britain that is the case 300 days a year.
go watch the ulster grand prix brother if u think bikes are useless in damp conditions HAH
Or a wet TT...
Yeah, but this is a novice rider, if he had any lean angle and if he had tyres for the rain he would win flat out.
keep in mind this was on summer tires. bmw m5 wouldn't have had a chance in wet tires made to go with the wet conditions. the rider was a novice rider. though the conditions weren't favorable for the rider, he could have saved a lot more time by leaning correctly.
we're talking about the S1000RR. this bike has as much power to weight ratio as the Nissan GTR.
Gdyby tor był suchy i czysty to samochód nie ma szans nawet.
nice
thats only on a small circcuit on the isle of man then you find out what that bike will do
It'll Kill you?
Ajay Kumar It will smoke the car.
***** given its got a 10 sec head-start yes... of course it will fucking win its a tiny cute little bike with a 4 cyl strapped on it. race a motor cycle and a car with the same power/weight and you have a race...
people these days...
TG Lasers on Isle of Man no car wins a motorcycle, the fastest lap there for a car is slower than those made on motorcycles.
Again back to the power/weight ratio. if they arent close on power/weight its like comparing apples to oranges there is no point in doing so. it would be the same as comparing a nissan leaf to a f1 car.
Both are beautiful machines of speed and power. There's no reason to argue over anything
You are so right. And you only see them from shows for cars. There is a reason. Put them into dry tarmac and you will have to wait for next episode to see the car. Anyone riding a bike understands completely.
In my opinion is a very stupid video. Try to do it in a dry track. Car will has no chance.
Would make no difference at all. The bike should be over 9 seconds quicker. And remember, the M5 was slowed down by the wet track as well.
thatabu if a car loses traction it will oversteer (in the M5s case) and the driver will handle it easily (especially if he is a racing driver like here) the bike will oversteer and hav the risk of falling... how many car drifting videos r out there compared to bike drifting videos? loads more as bike drifting/oversteer is loads harder to control than that of a car... dry conditions wud make a huge difference
Oversteer is wasted time. Yes the bike will be faster on a dry track but not necessarily by nine seconds.
Dream car and bike ;)
bike would have smoked that car with the car having a ten second lead on a dry track, this test is bollocks
why not do a car v bike with a bike with no fuel? flat Tyres? that would be fun too!
Why, in the name of Greek Buggery, would you do a 'bike v car' race, in conditions like that?
Driver aids off, weight over 1800kg, Sport sedan 10s late start+ 2nd gear start, still destroy the bike by 9 seconds. Good job M5, bad 1000rr.
Shut up Richie Kickass M5 is 9 seconds ahead the bike. Also don't forget its a RWD car.
Hugh Jaanus Bike won't have wheel spin in acceleration but car does, also RWD car is very unstable in wet condition by percentage compare to bikes. Whatever, a sport sedan beat a top track bike for 9 seconds.
ROCKETGUN BOOMBS Lol Bikes doe have wheelspin, and when it happens most of the time they crash.
Also a bike is hanging over 40-50 degrees in this weather , tell me whats unstable.
Bert Jansen The bike won't be unstable on track. Once you feel unstable is the time you crashed. So a bike would probably slow down for corners. a car won't have that issue. Because you have room for making mistake in a car, the "mistake"would slow you down.
They should re do this race: dry weather and bike in slick mode and no script
Dry track please!
ToxicReaper7 ***** Andrew Millward
lol a big fat sedan which focused on comfort and track gives a "s1000rr" track focused machine a 10 seconds head start, start in 2nd gear and just 1 second behind? I mean WTF?
This might would signal that weight is not as big a factor as some might believe Idk just saying
yup, weight isn't a big factor compare to bikes. Especially comparing to BMW cars. They handle so well. Car vs bike= grip vs power
Bike faster
Seth Reeves You like bikes, but you also need to admit the truth.
For what bikes are more fun .
RWD isn't a problem in snow.
Unless its really slippery and up steep hills, you won't have any trouble as long as you use winter tyres.
I drive a RWD car in the winter with lots of snow, and despite no LSD (Which I sometimes miss) its fine for driving around. It won't accelerate like a bat out of hell, because of the traction limitations, but if you keep TC on its dead easy.
Why are some people complaining about comparing a bike to a car. It is just for fun. They aren't saying one is bad and one is good.
If they start at the same time the 2 wheels aren't gonna pull off a victory. Dream on!
It even said at the beginning that the bike is on summer tires, there is a reason that brands like car and driver and motortrend don't do comparisons on rainy days with summer tires......
It's matt watson
Esse M5 merece todo respeito.!!!
Agreed. I have an E93, and it has spent more time in the shop than on the roads. They fix one electrical fault and two weeks later there is another.,
This race was about as stupid as having Lewis Hamilton race against a wheelchair with a flat tire.
Is there any Auto Express videos where a bike beats a car?
I like M 5 WAS MEZING THANKS
Both together sound like the perfect solution. 2nd hand prices now mean you can get a decent M5 for £30k and a 1000RR for £10k.
So £40k for 3 or 4 years old metal that wins as a saloon and a fast sportsbike. Yes please.
Extreme !!!! Great video
Not a stupid video at all if you watched to the end he says the biek would have been gone inthe dry. Logistics of getting track time and perfect weather are hard for mags, be glad they do comparisons of this nature.
The rider did a sterling job keep it sunny side up!
Kierowca motocykla to zwykły początkujący i tyle.
The M5 wears Cup 2 which is a summer tire as well, rear wheel drive on a wet bike advance tight track but still able to go 9 seconds faster. Keep blaming bike fanboys! The car can actually pass the bike, he just refuse to pass it for biker's safety. If he don't care about the biker, the car able to smack it down.
Bmw, oh that filing 😍😍
Watching a stock bike with summer tires race a car on a damp track is like watching a 12 year old fight a full grown man who's blindfolded with his arms tied behind his back, if I want to see a grown man fight a 12 year old with no restrictions I will follow Zach Braff around.
Reading the comments on here makes one realise just how little folks know. On a bendy road, wet or dry, any half-decent car will always be quicker. The lap-time stats prove this. True, the initial acceleration on a quick bike is better, but that's all. Cornering and braking are well below any decent car. End of.
OVER EDITING RUIN THIS NICE VIDEO!
thats like a bike magazine running the M5 on space saver tyres, do it again with proper tyres in the dry....!
BMW didn't want the bike to make the M5 look bad so they had to go on a wet track with summer tires. The M5 is a good car but on and even playing field most cars can not compete with high performance motorcycles.
1:49 the track is slippery today. Lost interest after that. Would have been even more un-interesting on a track with 5 centimeters of snow...
btw the bike rider has a lot of imperfections!
I would say a 1900hp Ford GT would keep up easily ;)
Can you re-do this with a dry track please?
awesome test and a very professional biker
they need to test it on a dry track and the bike will win in no time
Have been a passenger in an M5 on a track day. Two laps in, no brakes!
luckily you were not the driver "👍"
ultimate track car vs ultimate track bike would be fair
maybe the viper acr vs the s1k
??????? Why didn't you guys just do the test while it was raining!!! NEXT TIME YOU COMPARE ANY VEHICLES, DO IT IN DRY CONDITIONS!!!
The track was wet since you know..... It's always raining in britain
2 wheels, better set up for cornering, 1/3 the power, 1/10th the weight.
Bikes are faster than cars, almost always.
Atleast he was honest about it. Bike was at a disadvantage to begin with and costs a good 60k less. Bike every time and fuck that s1000RR is soooo pretty
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The road was wet...that's why the bike "isn't trying". The car can drift and recover, while the bike must be more conservative because once the wheels slip....it's gone.
hey you guys should try this again, but to make for even better conditions and testing - only have enough fuel in the bike to make it through half way!!
racing a bike on slippery track? holy smoke gentlemen, this is ludicrous