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My experience is that the fluid film branded gun is ok for home use but won't hold up if you go through 55 gallon drums. That pro plus gun looks pretty sweet, though I have no experience with it. Also, don't fool yourself thinking you are going to do a whole car with cans. Besides the cost, I've found that the product in the aerosol cans is different. It seems to be thinner and not work as well. Just my experiences as a home mechanic who has fluid filmed my own and friends cars.
I solved the rust problem by moving to Florida. But that wasn't the only reason I came here. Escaping a communist state government was the main reason.
First time I coated a vehicle with Fluid Film you could buy the sprayer and hoses directly from them, which I did. Doing the underside was messy but at least my skin was silky smooth for the next 3 months.
Had a leaky front seal that saved my old truck years ago. Been tempted to just drive down the highway at 80MPH and let the fluid film spray under it from the front bumper for a few miles.
From Canada here. Sorry about the smoke. I usually go to Krown, but I can definitely see the advantage of having a professional mechanic do the job, as he knows better where the rust problems usually are. Probably more expensive, but worth it I’d think.
Chemical invasion from Quebec, Canada to here (NY). Is this a late retaliation for the invasion of Quebec by the US in 1775? I had nothing to do with that!
This info comes at a good time as I just purchased a 2005 Tahoe....rust free...spotless underside. I’m in Nebraska. The vehicle came from SoCal. I had it shipped 3 months back. The photos of the underside sold me. Eric, we appreciate your generosity with your time and knowledge. Dave in Omaha
I am so impressed with your channel. You actually fix cars, and they leave your shop fixed. Unfortunately, Scotty Kilmer doesn't fix cars. I wish I had $5 for every time Scotty says, "I would just live with that," when diagnosing a car he is reviewing. I prefer watching your videos to watching the latest Tom Cruise movie.
Actors really are great at what they do, Pretending! And I do at times enjoy watching them pretend. But real life people, they are priceless. I know a lot of talented people, I enjoy their company.
Residual salt on the vehicle is activated with moisture so spring rains can be detrimental with an untreated vehicle. The warmer temps also help the product wic. Thanks Eric!
Canadian here enjoying this (and every other) video. Gotta echo my fellow countryman below - sorry about the smoke. We've been dealing with it here in Alberta since late April when the snow mostly left and fire season kicked in. If someone knows a rain dance or a rain prayer, don't be shy! We've had about 15 minutes of Rain in the Greater Edmonton Area so far this spring. It's 28C (`90F) out there right now at 11:15. Yes, for a bunch of Canucks in early June, this is HOT. Thanks for the video, Mr. O!
It's nice to see a customer take such good care of their vehicle. If this never had any rust prevention treatments, it would either be in the scrapyard by now, or well on it's way
@@trustme7731 Apparently you were sleeping when Eric showed the underside of the vehicle. Not only is it mostly rust-free, I also spotted things like a brand new exhaust and shocks. In fact, I didn't spot anything out of miss under the vehicle.
Ol' keyboard know it all has no clue what a work truck is. The truck has a camper and a Decked tool storage system, the owner probably has muddy boots more often than not.
You convinced me to Fluid Film my jet ski a couple years ago. I covered the carbon seal and sprayed everything that wasn't plastic. 2 years later and it still looks great.
Thanks to Eric O, i found a place right here in Saskatoon Saskatchewan who does the Krown treatment for my truck for $200- . I phoned n set up an appointment. Dropped the truck off n picked it up afew hours later. Great job! Never felt happier with the results. Gives you a good feeling knowing your under carriage n truck panels are safe
As a youth I worked at the Walmart in town and we did undercoating. I had a guy with a truck maybe 10 years old that was in real nice shape (live in the salt belt), he asked me to do a good job so I asked him if he cared if it drips a lot. He said no. Well as a bored teenager on a quiet day, I went nuts on that thing. Think I used a good 6 or 7 gallons on it. There were no unpainted surfaces ANYWHERE that I missed. And I put it on so thick it probably dripped for a month! 😂😂
I remember seeing this done as a kid back in the day up in Michigan, never understood why. Now that I live in Florida and watching you do this has brought back some fun memories as a kid. The local backyard mechanic which was my dad's best friend so I learned some things there ....fun times
Growing up in the desert it still blows my mind that you have to do something like this to keep your car from rotting away. I've seen cars left outside for decades that are fine with just a layer of surface rust. We do partially pay for it with plastic that become brittle and breaks into a thousand little pieces if you look at it wrong.
Vehicles have TOO MUCH DAMN PLASTIC ON THEM, NO STAINLESS OR GOOD CHROME FOR DECADES. Vehicles are pretty much DISPOSABLE ANY MORE, DAMN NEAR LIKE A BIC LIGHTER. Try working on your vehicle up here in the N.E. in the winter time, LOL every plastic part breaks off as you touch it. It's either so brittle from the heat or from the cold when working on them. Vacuum lines, trim pieces, those Christmas tree fasteners, electrical connectors, ECT. ECT. ECT. GREAT VID. SMA AS USUAL.
@@chucknSC We should setup an exchange program. My last car had spent half its life in Texas: the plastic falling apart and rubber drying out was well worth not having to deal with rust for a few years.
I did zebart rubberized under coating in my 05 2500 it killed it. Found a local shop that did fluid film. Had them do my ‘09 and ‘13. Every time I bring it in for service mechanics always praise me for the condition as well as the easy of working on it. Minus getting greasy when you work under the truck, it’s fantastic. I will never buy a used vehicle around NY without it being previously filmed. I usually by a southern vehicle and bring it back up, first stop is the fluid film shop. HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend!!!!!!!
SMA buys in the Industrial 55 gallon size! There is some serious rust proofing! Having lunch on patio watching Mr. O spraying a Chevrolet! What else can you want on a Friday? Thanks SMA!
A really sensible owner getting you to protect his truck as well as the service and tyre rotation. I wish all owners looked after their vehicles like this.
I watch your videos and am still amazed at the rust scourge, having lived my childhood and some of my adult life in Texas this was foreign to me and working in the Middle East and desert, no rust. I was watching a Watch Wes Work video and an oil pan rusted out, rear differential cover. Never knew this could happen. Keep up the good work, love your honesty, family and pets.
Hi Eric O! I live in southern Norway and our climate requires rust preventive treatment. They use salt on our roads every winter. The most used stuff here is a Valvoline product called Tectyl. Comes in two variations, thin fluid for sills, frames, door bottoms. Its highly penetrable and is applied with a gun like the one you use. The other version is thick and wax like and is for all underside use. Its applied with a high pressure air gun. Doesen't drip after application. I love this stuff and it keeps the metal worms away. There is also a product called Dinitrol, but I know little about it. I think both products are made in USA.
Expecting any shop other than Eric to use the same care in the application of undercoating is a pipe dream! I drove a 2000 Malibu until 2018 when rust was still minimal due to having it RustChecked every other year ( depends on your use in salted roads) and I live in Halifax, NS another "rust belt". The choice is clear ......Rust OR Mess . Mess you can clean off, rust will end your vehicle's life sooner if not rust protected. Great video !👍👍👍🥇
As an Aussie its weird to see this done but makes total sense watching other car restorers and the anti-rust properties of a 20 year old oil leak from rear main sprayed all underneath chassis.
I live in Florida so I don’t have road salt but living near massive bodies of sea water does cause some rusting, on a much smaller scale. My 1999 Silverado has had several downscaled treatments of the Fluid Film and only has one small rust hole on a lower side pillar. 310k miles too. Just bought a 2023 Silverado and it got a treatment as well. Stuff really works.
One thing I’ve learned from watching TH-cam vids of boats being launched in FL, is never buy a used truck that was registered in FL….most likely been backed deep into the ocean more than once at boat ramps.😅
I live in Vegas. Bone dry has advantages. I have most of the vehicles I have ever owned. From vintage Jeeps to a 50 year old Mustang Mach One. I have a cheap daily driver Hyundai with 450K miles to keep everything out of the sun. I keep them in a big metal building.
@@TheBandit7613I do the same thing in Iowa, 3 mustangs and 2 trucks sit inside while I run errands in 310,000 mile 2003 Hyundai Elantra... Best way to keep the wear/tear and and rust off a vehicle is to have a sacrificial beater to use when conditions are less then favorable outside.
@@xlandros The most recent vehicle purchase I have was used to put a tinnie in the water & it has no rust in/under it maybe because it's a Nissan made in Japan.
Salted road is like living with the ocean view, they bring to ocean to the road litteraly. you've got sand, the salt and salted air but can't make sand castle... and it's cold
I do this to everything I drive in the winter, every year. Its a small investment to protect the cars they no longer make. This wouldn't be nearly as necessary if they didn't use such corrosive chemicals to treat the roads. We aren't going to win that fight, so treating our cars is the only way.
I moved from Ohio to Texas and that solved my problem and many others I didn’t know existed. I’ve also found that leasing your cars up north solves the rust problem too.
I agree. Leasing or trading every few years is the only way to have a car in the northeast. I buy a car about 1 year old, and trade it before it turns to powder. Any rustproofing is only as good as the person applying it.
I always wondered when the best time was... summer makes sense. Thanks! As a Canadian & the smoke... you're welcome...lol, just trying to keep the temperature down a little for ya :)
Greetings Eric from a fellow upstate resident. You introduced me to this product and it works very nicely. Because I don't have a lift, its a bit of a chore to roll around underneath the car on a creeper but well worth the time and effort. Appreciate the vids.
This is the best money spent on a vehicle. It’s the first thing I do when acquiring a car or truck. You will reap a higher resale cost many times over what this service costs.
I use used motor oil in a paint sprayer and coat frame fuel and brake lines, ( if they are steel ) Rust is really bad at the university I work at, they lay a carpet of salt in winter months. Also do my own and have had great results. Been wrenching 43 yrs, I really enjoy your content. Hope it's ok to say I always enjoy Mrs.O, you both are a great team.
I’ve heard about this before and I wondered if motor oil would work? How many times do you filter the oil and do you use any thinner or anything. Could you tell me what type of paint sprayer to use please? I sprayed under the doors in the drain holes 🕳️ with a can of WD and thought I had really discovered something. My Dad told me that they would wipe down the cars with kerosene on the bottoms and drive down a rocked road to put a “sealer” over it. Then wash it in the spring. I just retired from the state of Illinois highway department. I’m one of the “Salt Shakers” that you see on the roads. 🤣😂.
I tried all the anti-rust scams until they came out with this sprays like fluid film. It really is good. I put it on my trailer gate hinges battery terminals starter wires everything I can spray it on.
Yes. Those bitumen-like coatings put on when the car is new are a disaster! Any pinhole allows water to get under the coating, it then can’t get out and rots out the metal underneath. Worst part is the rust is covered by the coating and you can’t see it.
Tom in Northern Vermont here. I have bar oiled My 1997 GMC 1997 GMC K1500 Suburban every year and the frame and body are rock solid. There is no better way to protect your vehicle than using oil...
If you got the time, drop the spare tire a few inches. The rear cross member the spare rests against is about destroyed on my 2010 GMC. Sad that it has to be done, but that’s life in the rust-belt
Nice thorough job!! Fluid Film "is the best" and on my 2019 f150 it looks like new underneath. I did 2 full sprays (2 years apart) and 3 touch ups (every fall) since new! I live in Northern Ontario, Canada! (salt country!!) Any protection, done regularly, is essential to protect against corrosion!
Here they have not used salt on the roads always calsium colride or magnisiam cloride but they are starting to use salt in some spots now never had to put oil on at all they also use sand on the roads lots of windshields
I don't remember if it was the last time you talked about this, or somewhere else online, but.. I remember people saying they don't bother doing this, instead they just do weekly car washes with underbody spray jets. I understand the appeal, because that makes your car look nice too. That is not enough though, that is not a replacement for this. You have to protect the metal itself. That salt is just eating away at your car/truck in between washes if you don't protect the metal.
I did the weekly underbody water rinses / car washes. They don't work well for rust prevention in my experience. I used fluid film the next winter when I saw rust on my new car
That's interesting. I thought you were kidding at first. Here in the south, we try to keep the oil off of those surfaces, lol. Although I once had a monte carlo SS that has its own under carriage oiling system via the 2 piece rear main seal. Thanks for that GM.
Been using Fluid Film for years. Also tried 3M cavity wax amd their 360° nozzle. Works great if you don't undercoat enough cars to justify buying a whole drum and spray gun or if you just don't have an air compressor.
I have a 2014 GMC Sierra 1500, garaged kept, maintained well. Recently I was doing some work underneath and it was pretty much rust-free, except for the area just above the spare tire. It was a mess, cross members very rusty, had to do some serious remediation. Seems the spare holds moisture and gives rust a better chance in that area. I would strongly recommend dropping that spare and treating that area well on any GMC/Chevy 1500 with an undercarriage spare.
I had this done on my truck at the dealership before I took delivery. The finance company required it. I rode so quietly and after 6 New England winters there was no rust anywhere on it. The undercoating protected the frame. A wise investment.
I usually do the FF treatment in late September/early October to minimize pre-winter washoff, but your thoughts about doing it now and giving it time to creep have me rethinking this, especially since I have two new daily drivers in the driveway...
A friends dad used to spray used oil on his fender wells and wherever he could spray. I thought it was overkill back then when everything was more open then it is now. He knew.
I saw a video on TH-cam where I guy tested several types of undercoatings including fluid film. From best to worst, 1) PB Blaster Surface Shield, tied for last NH Black and Crown, both junk. Fluid film was in the middle somewhere. I made up my own for a while, summer grade bar n chain oil, a toilet ring, (beeswax) and 5 cakes of paraffin wax. then heated Mine did as well as fluid film. Do not use any kind of hydraulic fluid. It absorbs moisture. The waxy stuff on the frame is probably lanolin put on at the factory.
I'm in south eastern Ontario, and Krown charges $149 Cdn plus 13% tax for a minivan. But every year, they partner with CAA to offer a scratch & win promo in the June time frame with a minimum discount of $25. So it costs me $129 plus tax. You could win the whole cost of the treatment, but I've never been that lucky 😞
Wow, this video speaks for itself. Not sure if that truck has lived in NY its whole life but she looks mint underneath. It's literally a no brainer, you can keep your vehicles nice even up north with a little care.
Back in the day, we sprayed used motor oil all over the bottom of our trucks in the western Oblast of the PRM, just to your east. The Berkshires become salt mounds in the winter just like the PRNY. Worked pretty well and was an easy way to get rid of our used oil that we changed every 2000 miles back then.
Good old Michigan cancer, is hard all vehicles. Back in the old days (70s) there was Ziebart rustproofing, and Rusty Jones, I don't know what happened to them. Ziebart drilled about 500 holes to spray their top secret goo, then you have yellow plugs every 10 inches. I think what happened to them they hired alot of 16 year olds to work. Difference is you care and do an excellent job, you talk alot and that makes good instruction. I've been a mechanic for 55 years and I still learn from this channel.
For those of us that use Krown: All the franchises are supposed to have aerosol cans for sale. Great for touching up when you're swapping parts or notice a rust spot spot starting. Handy for rustproofing other things around the house.
I've always lived in New York/New Jersey states and I just go through a carwash in the winter time. Never had any rust problems on any of my cars, make sure you get the under car spray
Up in rural Vermont I go every year to a local shop that’s been going for over 40 years that uses their own oil formula. It drips a little for few days and it doesn’t affect the plastics or gaskets or stuff you hear about from the doubters. A lot of towns send their highway trucks there every year
Fluid film, bar& chain mixed 50/50 with transmission fluid, waxoyl, tectyl 506, noxudol, all good stuff. The trick is you have to do it and do it every single year. When you cannot reach under the car and touch something without getting greasy then its just right.
Very good job you do because your attention to details, ''almost'' more important than the rust proofing product. A friend of mine do have a 2007 GMC Sierra 2500HD with over 400,000 miles with almost nos rust on it, every spring, he pressure wash from a distance (NOT pressure blast, different) under his pick up truck 2 - 3 times to remove all the salt and aother accumulation, let it dry for 2-3 weekd than send it to rust proofing to a shop with attention to details. We do live 350 miles north-east of you, where 5 months/year we do have the roads cover with snow and salt/calcium and everything to rust anything. Because every vh do have specific building ways, in some places the need is to cover while in other places it is essential to have a product with high/very high capillary action in order to infltrate/penetrate in very narrow space such as where two sheet metal panels meet. You show a job very well done. 👍👌👍👌👍👌
I live in Washington and we have our share of snow and ice especially in the mountains. We don't use salt but rather sand and a deicing solution that can also be applied before it gets to freezing Temps. Our cars don't rot out like this nor do they need this coating. The deicing solution is more expensive than salt, but it would be much cheaper for everyone overall given vehicle damage, road damage, etc.
I sure am proud to say I live in SW Oklahoma and it's never wet enough to rust here.... if it does rust the tornadoes blow it off and August we have dust storms that sandblast it all off too, you know when it's 112 in the shade.....
I sure wish we had this whole setup back in the late 1950's, all of the 1960's and 1970's. Saw some really great cars die a corroded death when they still ran good in Massachusetts. When we moved to Southern California in 1976, that problem ended here. The bodies and frames of my 06 Nissan Frontier and my wife's 06 Kia Sorento are still solid although the Kia is a money pit by itself! Mr. O, PLEASE buy a mask that is paint and oil spray rated and wear eye protection. Thank you for showing this video with the great tool for applying the fluid film.
Thank you for turning me on to Fluid Film. I watched one of your video's years ago about using fluid film. I live in Chicago land same issues with winter salt here. I have a 2014 Ram. Started using fluid film in 2016. Its parked outside and driven every day year round. No major rust at all on the truck. There is a light surface rust on the driveshaft differential and a few spots on the frame. I do it ever year with the cans. It takes me 10 to 12 cans and about a day to do it but is worth it. I even drilled small access holes on the inside of the bed and spray inside with a extended straw. Then I use a small rubber grommet to plug the holes. Do the same with all the factory holes as well. I have no bed rocker or corner cap rust at all. One more place I forgot. I pull the third brake light and spray the inside of the roof. I have had problems with those seals leaking form time to time.
I always enjoy your content, especially your whacky sense of humour and banter with the lovely 'Mrs O' - You would be a godsend here in the U.K. - 'Family Garages' are rarer than hen's teeth, and Main Dealers cost FORTUNES and are usually unwilling or unable to undertake 'general repairs and maintenance' work. On a few occasions, I have been forced to make my OWN parts!, spares for even 2009 models being totally unavailable new and rare and expensive used ( from places like Lithuania- really!) Keep up the good work, be sure I'll be watching and laughing - best wishes to you, your wife and daughter - you're ALL GR8!
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My experience is that the fluid film branded gun is ok for home use but won't hold up if you go through 55 gallon drums. That pro plus gun looks pretty sweet, though I have no experience with it. Also, don't fool yourself thinking you are going to do a whole car with cans. Besides the cost, I've found that the product in the aerosol cans is different. It seems to be thinner and not work as well. Just my experiences as a home mechanic who has fluid filmed my own and friends cars.
I solved the rust problem by moving to Florida. But that wasn't the only reason I came here. Escaping a communist state government was the main reason.
wear eye pro goggles you caveman, i wear a dual can full on NBC full face mask....i dont mess around with fluid film in my eyes.
And New Mexico also!
@@jennifer.moxhamhuroncenten1666 About a gallon and a half when I do it
I discovered that moving to Arizona also works.
Yup sure do
Makes too much sense to move somewhere rust free.
Back in the mid 1980’s GM would buy back Camaro’s that had leaking T-tops under the Lemon Law and send them to Arizona.
That actually the best thing to do
@@killdizzle There's no such thing as a free lunch I guess.
I about fell over laughing when he said, you put 2 or 3 transmissions in it, and 17 wheel bearings, I busted out laughing 😂
Same, at least the fasteners will be easier to salvage.
Factory wheel bearing for the first 120k, then a cheap POS every 5k miles HAHAA
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First time I coated a vehicle with Fluid Film you could buy the sprayer and hoses directly from them, which I did. Doing the underside was messy but at least my skin was silky smooth for the next 3 months.
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Now you won't have to worry about your skin rusting out. LoL
Skin silky smooth! 😂🤣😆😃you got me there! 👍👍👍
Did you do the job butt nacked? ;D
Massive oil leaks usually take care of this task continuously for the underside areas downstream of the engine. Very handy.
Hahahahahahahahaha!
You're not wrong
Which was how my 92 camry survived seattle for 7 years with no undercarriage rust. It only costed 1.5 quarts of oil refills every 1400 miles
@@JohnS-il1dr nothing rusts in Seattle anyways
Had a leaky front seal that saved my old truck years ago. Been tempted to just drive down the highway at 80MPH and let the fluid film spray under it from the front bumper for a few miles.
I was a Honda tech for 38 years , you are the only one I would trust to work on my car , keep up the great work
Your chevy!
From Canada here. Sorry about the smoke. I usually go to Krown, but I can definitely see the advantage of having a professional mechanic do the job, as he knows better where the rust problems usually are. Probably more expensive, but worth it I’d think.
I'm from Michigan, it smells like a campfire outside!
In the time I spent watching this video I could have had Krown apply the 19th annual treatment to my car . 😉
Canadian Fires .....
..... Canadian Bee Keeper Ian Steppler ( You Tube ) is fielding questions
Chemical invasion from Quebec, Canada to here (NY). Is this a late retaliation for the invasion of Quebec by the US in 1775? I had nothing to do with that!
I would like to sincerely apologize for my fellow Canadian apologizing😂
With that fog you created mixing with the particulates from the Canadian wildfires I would surmise that half of Avoca NY is now protected.
Wish there were more honest mechanics like you. Fantastic job 👍👍
This info comes at a good time as I just purchased a 2005 Tahoe....rust free...spotless underside. I’m in Nebraska. The vehicle came from SoCal. I had it shipped 3 months back. The photos of the underside sold me. Eric, we appreciate your generosity with your time and knowledge. Dave in Omaha
I am so impressed with your channel. You actually fix cars, and they leave your shop fixed. Unfortunately, Scotty Kilmer doesn't fix cars. I wish I had $5 for every time Scotty says, "I would just live with that," when diagnosing a car he is reviewing. I prefer watching your videos to watching the latest Tom Cruise movie.
That's because Skottle is nothing more than a talking head...all bark, no bite (skill?)
That's because Scrotty is just a money grubbing clickbaiter.
That's because Scotty wouldn't waste his time on frivolous things that take hours to fix.
Actors really are great at what they do,
Pretending!
And I do at times enjoy watching them pretend.
But real life people, they are priceless.
I know a lot of talented people, I enjoy their company.
@@peterwill3699 that’s because he probably can’t actually fix them
Residual salt on the vehicle is activated with moisture so spring rains can be detrimental with an untreated vehicle. The warmer temps also help the product wic. Thanks Eric!
Id probably never would have known about Fluid Film if it wasn't for SMA! Just opened my first gallon of black and I love it!
Thanks you for the tip! Just started doing this to an inherited 04 lly duramax. She is clean. And intend to keep her that way!
You need to sponsor him.
What is the small difference between the can and gallon because I've used both and there's a difference thanks FF
@@leardi58 it is the propellant in the can that is the difference. Other than that they are identical.
Canadian here enjoying this (and every other) video. Gotta echo my fellow countryman below - sorry about the smoke. We've been dealing with it here in Alberta since late April when the snow mostly left and fire season kicked in. If someone knows a rain dance or a rain prayer, don't be shy! We've had about 15 minutes of Rain in the Greater Edmonton Area so far this spring. It's 28C (`90F) out there right now at 11:15. Yes, for a bunch of Canucks in early June, this is HOT. Thanks for the video, Mr. O!
I think we people in West/Panhandle Tx stole all the rain this year. It hasn’t rained this much in 10 years.
Again I apologize for my apologizing Canadian..unless he started the fires😂
Get rid of Trudeau and get in PIERE
It's nice to see a customer take such good care of their vehicle. If this never had any rust prevention treatments, it would either be in the scrapyard by now, or well on it's way
Good care? Did you see the interior? Totally trashed.
@@trustme7731 Does the interior make the truck go down the road? He's taking care of the important things.
@@justsumguy2u You have no idea if the owner is "taking care of the important things.".
@@trustme7731 Apparently you were sleeping when Eric showed the underside of the vehicle. Not only is it mostly rust-free, I also spotted things like a brand new exhaust and shocks. In fact, I didn't spot anything out of miss under the vehicle.
Ol' keyboard know it all has no clue what a work truck is.
The truck has a camper and a Decked tool storage system, the owner probably has muddy boots more often than not.
You convinced me to Fluid Film my jet ski a couple years ago. I covered the carbon seal and sprayed everything that wasn't plastic. 2 years later and it still looks great.
Thanks to Eric O, i found a place right here in Saskatoon Saskatchewan who does the Krown treatment for my truck for $200- . I phoned n set up an appointment. Dropped the truck off n picked it up afew hours later. Great job! Never felt happier with the results. Gives you a good feeling knowing your under carriage n truck panels are safe
Only Mr. O can make spraying FF on the under body of a Chevy the highlight of my day. Thanks for sharing!
I've even found out that the dream holds have been taped Closed well, you don't even know they're veil until your door starts riding away.
Cool. You need an addition on the side of the building for nothing but fluid filming... Good video!
As a youth I worked at the Walmart in town and we did undercoating. I had a guy with a truck maybe 10 years old that was in real nice shape (live in the salt belt), he asked me to do a good job so I asked him if he cared if it drips a lot. He said no. Well as a bored teenager on a quiet day, I went nuts on that thing. Think I used a good 6 or 7 gallons on it. There were no unpainted surfaces ANYWHERE that I missed. And I put it on so thick it probably dripped for a month! 😂😂
I was holding my breath while you were spraying. I'll bet your camera isn't gonna rust anytime soon. Nice work
I remember seeing this done as a kid back in the day up in Michigan, never understood why. Now that I live in Florida and watching you do this has brought back some fun memories as a kid. The local backyard mechanic which was my dad's best friend so I learned some things there ....fun times
Can this be applied to a vehicle that already has rust damage to slow the process?
Growing up in the desert it still blows my mind that you have to do something like this to keep your car from rotting away. I've seen cars left outside for decades that are fine with just a layer of surface rust. We do partially pay for it with plastic that become brittle and breaks into a thousand little pieces if you look at it wrong.
Vehicles have TOO MUCH DAMN PLASTIC ON THEM, NO STAINLESS OR GOOD CHROME FOR DECADES. Vehicles are pretty much DISPOSABLE ANY MORE, DAMN NEAR LIKE A BIC LIGHTER.
Try working on your vehicle up here in the N.E. in the winter time, LOL every plastic part breaks off as you touch it. It's either so brittle from the heat or from the cold when working on them. Vacuum lines, trim pieces, those Christmas tree fasteners, electrical connectors, ECT. ECT. ECT.
GREAT VID. SMA AS USUAL.
Yep the dry climates have trouble with rubber and plastic, we have trouble with metal.
There's no real winning. It all sucks.
@@dchawk81 YES, IT ALL SUCKS, DAMN GOOD POINT, ALSO CRITTERS EATING YOUR INSIDES & WIRING APART.
Buy your cars down south, change to plastic from up north ( where there’s lots of junked cars).
@@chucknSC We should setup an exchange program. My last car had spent half its life in Texas: the plastic falling apart and rubber drying out was well worth not having to deal with rust for a few years.
Owner loves this truck being he has treated it so many times already nice video Eric O @South Main Auto Repair LLC
I did zebart rubberized under coating in my 05 2500 it killed it. Found a local shop that did fluid film. Had them do my ‘09 and ‘13. Every time I bring it in for service mechanics always praise me for the condition as well as the easy of working on it. Minus getting greasy when you work under the truck, it’s fantastic. I will never buy a used vehicle around NY without it being previously filmed. I usually by a southern vehicle and bring it back up, first stop is the fluid film shop. HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend!!!!!!!
zebart rubberized under coating 🤮
Do you mean killed in a good way or bad ?
@@nickmalone3143 very bad Rubberized coating holds moisture in and causes huge flakes of rust to fall off
SMA buys in the Industrial 55 gallon size! There is some serious rust proofing! Having lunch on patio watching Mr. O spraying a Chevrolet! What else can you want on a Friday? Thanks SMA!
A really sensible owner getting you to protect his truck as well as the service and tyre rotation. I wish all owners looked after their vehicles like this.
I watch your videos and am still amazed at the rust scourge, having lived my childhood and some of my adult life in Texas this was foreign to me and working in the Middle East and desert, no rust. I was watching a Watch Wes Work video and an oil pan rusted out, rear differential cover. Never knew this could happen. Keep up the good work, love your honesty, family and pets.
If you're down around South :Padre or Galveston and near the Gulf you'll get rust from the salt spray.
Hi Eric O! I live in southern Norway and our climate requires rust preventive treatment. They use salt on our roads every winter. The most used stuff here is a Valvoline product called Tectyl. Comes in two variations, thin fluid for sills, frames, door bottoms. Its highly penetrable and is applied with a gun like the one you use. The other version is thick and wax like and is for all underside use. Its applied with a high pressure air gun. Doesen't drip after application. I love this stuff and it keeps the metal worms away. There is also a product called Dinitrol, but I know little about it. I think both products are made in USA.
I used Dinitrol ML on my car, its even thinner than FluidFilm
There are lots of products better than arguing about whats best, as he says in the video whats 'best' is to pick one and do it.
@@aussiehardwood6196 True, doesn't matter if its Krown, Fluid Film or old engine oil, anything is better than just watching the metal rot away.
I use dinitrol here in the UK its a good product.
FF is thick. I found that it pours & sprays more evenly by putting the container in hot water for 20-30 min prior to spraying.
This is the perfect fluid filming video. Great job as always!
I concur!
I like to breathe in those fluid film vapors
Expecting any shop other than Eric to use the same care in the application of undercoating is a pipe dream! I drove a 2000 Malibu until 2018 when rust was still minimal due to having it RustChecked every other year ( depends on your use in salted roads) and I live in
Halifax, NS another "rust belt". The choice is clear ......Rust OR Mess . Mess you can clean off, rust will end your vehicle's life sooner if not rust protected. Great video !👍👍👍🥇
Woo, can smell that Fluid Film from here!
Doing this really does help prolong the life of your vehicle. Kudos to the owner of this truck.
As an Aussie its weird to see this done but makes total sense watching other car restorers and the anti-rust properties of a 20 year old oil leak from rear main sprayed all underneath chassis.
I live in Florida so I don’t have road salt but living near massive bodies of sea water does cause some rusting, on a much smaller scale. My 1999 Silverado has had several downscaled treatments of the Fluid Film and only has one small rust hole on a lower side pillar. 310k miles too. Just bought a 2023 Silverado and it got a treatment as well. Stuff really works.
One thing I’ve learned from watching TH-cam vids of boats being launched in FL, is never buy a used truck that was registered in FL….most likely been backed deep into the ocean more than once at boat ramps.😅
I live in Vegas. Bone dry has advantages.
I have most of the vehicles I have ever owned. From vintage Jeeps to a 50 year old Mustang Mach One.
I have a cheap daily driver Hyundai with 450K miles to keep everything out of the sun. I keep them in a big metal building.
@@TheBandit7613I do the same thing in Iowa, 3 mustangs and 2 trucks sit inside while I run errands in 310,000 mile 2003 Hyundai Elantra... Best way to keep the wear/tear and and rust off a vehicle is to have a sacrificial beater to use when conditions are less then favorable outside.
@@xlandros The most recent vehicle purchase I have was used to put a tinnie in the water & it has no rust in/under it maybe because it's a Nissan made in Japan.
Salted road is like living with the ocean view, they bring to ocean to the road litteraly. you've got sand, the salt and salted air but can't make sand castle... and it's cold
I do this to everything I drive in the winter, every year. Its a small investment to protect the cars they no longer make. This wouldn't be nearly as necessary if they didn't use such corrosive chemicals to treat the roads. We aren't going to win that fight, so treating our cars is the only way.
I moved from Ohio to Texas and that solved my problem and many others I didn’t know existed. I’ve also found that leasing your cars up north solves the rust problem too.
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I agree. Leasing or trading every few years is the only way to have a car in the northeast. I buy a car about 1 year old, and trade it before it turns to powder. Any rustproofing is only as good as the person applying it.
Yea, but now you’re in Texas!😂
@@kennethbrown8723 rather be here than in Ohio. Property taxes are lower, no state income tax, and we don’t get 4 feet of snow. Lol
I always wondered when the best time was... summer makes sense. Thanks! As a Canadian & the smoke... you're welcome...lol, just trying to keep the temperature down a little for ya :)
Greetings Eric from a fellow upstate resident. You introduced me to this product and it works very nicely. Because I don't have a lift, its a bit of a chore to roll around underneath the car on a creeper but well worth the time and effort. Appreciate the vids.
This is the best money spent on a vehicle. It’s the first thing I do when acquiring a car or truck. You will reap a higher resale cost many times over what this service costs.
I use used motor oil in a paint sprayer and coat frame fuel and brake lines, ( if they are steel ) Rust is really bad at the university I work at, they lay a carpet of salt in winter months. Also do my own and have had great results. Been wrenching 43 yrs, I really enjoy your content. Hope it's ok to say I always enjoy Mrs.O, you both are a great team.
I’ve heard about this before and I wondered if motor oil would work? How many times do you filter the oil and do you use any thinner or anything. Could you tell me what type of paint sprayer to use please? I sprayed under the doors in the drain holes 🕳️ with a can of WD and thought I had really discovered something. My Dad told me that they would wipe down the cars with kerosene on the bottoms and drive down a rocked road to put a “sealer” over it. Then wash it in the spring. I just retired from the state of Illinois highway department. I’m one of the “Salt Shakers” that you see on the roads. 🤣😂.
"Any hole you can get in on the body, just do it." Best advice ever :)
I tried all the anti-rust scams until they came out with this sprays like fluid film. It really is good. I put it on my trailer gate hinges battery terminals starter wires everything I can spray it on.
Yes. Those bitumen-like coatings put on when the car is new are a disaster! Any pinhole allows water to get under the coating, it then can’t get out and rots out the metal underneath. Worst part is the rust is covered by the coating and you can’t see it.
Wow, when you said everything, you meant EVERYTHING!!
I don't know what he charges but it's worth every penny as thorough as he is.
Tom in Northern Vermont here. I have bar oiled My 1997 GMC 1997 GMC K1500 Suburban every year and the frame and body are rock solid. There is no better way to protect your vehicle than using oil...
If you got the time, drop the spare tire a few inches. The rear cross member the spare rests against is about destroyed on my 2010 GMC. Sad that it has to be done, but that’s life in the rust-belt
Idea! Fluid Film could incorporate a UV additive, so a special light can detect missed spots. Just thinkin'. Great channel Eric.
It would be interesting to see trucks the same year and close to same mileage, one with fluid film and one without to see the difference
Fluid film car wash. Million dollar idea right there.
Nice thorough job!! Fluid Film "is the best" and on my 2019 f150 it looks like new underneath. I did 2 full sprays (2 years apart) and 3 touch ups (every fall) since new! I live in Northern Ontario, Canada! (salt country!!) Any protection, done regularly, is essential to protect against corrosion!
Drill drain holes in the bottom of your rockers.
For the love of god Drill drain holes in the bottoms of your rockers.
I use Corrosion Free which has kept my 2009 F150 completely rust free on the east coast.
Here they have not used salt on the roads always calsium colride or magnisiam cloride but they are starting to use salt in some spots now never had to put oil on at all they also use sand on the roads lots of windshields
I don't remember if it was the last time you talked about this, or somewhere else online, but.. I remember people saying they don't bother doing this, instead they just do weekly car washes with underbody spray jets. I understand the appeal, because that makes your car look nice too. That is not enough though, that is not a replacement for this. You have to protect the metal itself. That salt is just eating away at your car/truck in between washes if you don't protect the metal.
What about using a sacrificial anode like they do on boats!?
I did the weekly underbody water rinses / car washes. They don't work well for rust prevention in my experience. I used fluid film the next winter when I saw rust on my new car
Truck looks good for it's time up there. This treatment goes a long way in keeping it like that.
Just spray and pray! Love how thorough you are Eric!
That's interesting. I thought you were kidding at first. Here in the south, we try to keep the oil off of those surfaces, lol. Although I once had a monte carlo SS that has its own under carriage oiling system via the 2 piece rear main seal. Thanks for that GM.
Been using Fluid Film for years. Also tried 3M cavity wax amd their 360° nozzle. Works great if you don't undercoat enough cars to justify buying a whole drum and spray gun or if you just don't have an air compressor.
I have a 2014 GMC Sierra 1500, garaged kept, maintained well. Recently I was doing some work underneath and it was pretty much rust-free, except for the area just above the spare tire. It was a mess, cross members very rusty, had to do some serious remediation. Seems the spare holds moisture and gives rust a better chance in that area. I would strongly recommend dropping that spare and treating that area well on any GMC/Chevy 1500 with an undercarriage spare.
Did similar to a Toyota Delicia van a couple of weeks ago.. was a Japanese import, so was actually fairly rust free (for Scotland)
I always try to stick it in as far as I can I wouldn’t think you would need to tell a bunch of guys that
If Eric was a superhero, Rustman would be his arch nemesis.
I had this done on my truck at the dealership before I took delivery. The finance company required it. I rode so quietly and after 6 New England winters there was no rust anywhere on it. The undercoating protected the frame. A wise investment.
2 or 3 transmissions, sad but true 😂
Yes. I love it. It’s our only chance of having a vehicle for 10 years up here in upstate NY. Thank you.
That fluid film is for real man. Wouldn’t know of it if it wasn’t for you!
I usually do the FF treatment in late September/early October to minimize pre-winter washoff, but your thoughts about doing it now and giving it time to creep have me rethinking this, especially since I have two new daily drivers in the driveway...
Doing it before the winter allows dirt to stick to it helping it from washing off.
Stuff is always going to wash. Multiple touchups throughout the year helps. Pb blasters new stuff seems to resist wash off a bit more.
A friends dad used to spray used oil on his fender wells and wherever he could spray. I thought it was overkill back then when everything was more open then it is now. He knew.
Yeah I do my truck with pb blaster surface shield 🛡 in September 🛻👍
Just do it twice a year and get double the benifits😉
Having the bulk drum and sprayer makes this a lot easier. The consumer spray cans run out quick!
I saw a video on TH-cam where I guy tested several types of undercoatings including fluid film. From best to worst, 1) PB Blaster Surface Shield, tied for last NH Black and Crown, both junk. Fluid film was in the middle somewhere. I made up my own for a while, summer grade bar n chain oil, a toilet ring, (beeswax) and 5 cakes of paraffin wax. then heated Mine did as well as fluid film. Do not use any kind of hydraulic fluid. It absorbs moisture. The waxy stuff on the frame is probably lanolin put on at the factory.
Eric, what is the average cost in your area for a treatment like this?
Usually its around 150 bucks by me but NY might be more
I live in far upstate NY, and it’s $200 for a minivan.
I'm in south eastern Ontario, and Krown charges $149 Cdn plus 13% tax for a minivan. But every year, they partner with CAA to offer a scratch & win promo in the June time frame with a minimum discount of $25. So it costs me $129 plus tax. You could win the whole cost of the treatment, but I've never been that lucky 😞
Luv the humor, it helps being an auto mechanic!!
Does this still help on smaller unibody cars? They seem to hold up better than trucks especially if the bottom is mostly covered.
Yes. At the very least I would do the front and rear subframes, since replacing those can be time consuming and pricey.
Doesn’t matter what vehicle type or make, any hole any joint in steel that water can get to or into the salt can also.
Wow, this video speaks for itself. Not sure if that truck has lived in NY its whole life but she looks mint underneath. It's literally a no brainer, you can keep your vehicles nice even up north with a little care.
Back in the day, we sprayed used motor oil all over the bottom of our trucks in the western Oblast of the PRM, just to your east. The Berkshires become salt mounds in the winter just like the PRNY. Worked pretty well and was an easy way to get rid of our used oil that we changed every 2000 miles back then.
Some cars self lube the bottom on there own. 🤣🤣🤣
Good old Michigan cancer, is hard all vehicles. Back in the old days (70s) there was Ziebart rustproofing, and Rusty Jones, I don't know what happened to them. Ziebart drilled about 500 holes to spray their top secret goo, then you have yellow plugs every 10 inches. I think what happened to them they hired alot of 16 year olds to work. Difference is you care and do an excellent job, you talk alot and that makes good instruction. I've been a mechanic for 55 years and I still learn from this channel.
Just a question Eric. What is it with us older guys and that one belt loop in the same spot. We always miss that one loop😂
My old ford self oils it's undercarriage all the time. Not that it makes a difference in the middle of texas
For those of us that use Krown: All the franchises are supposed to have aerosol cans for sale. Great for touching up when you're swapping parts or notice a rust spot spot starting. Handy for rustproofing other things around the house.
I pick up a can every year when I am having my car Krowned.
I also go to Krown and when they ''give'' me the aerosol can I always feel like it is to me to complete the job .... 😁😁
Enjoying this from rust free florida.
What percentage of your customer's would you estimate get their vehicles fluid filmed?
He discussed it another video with his wife. They tried to figure out why people don't protect their cars, so I guess very few.
I've always lived in New York/New Jersey states and I just go through a carwash in the winter time. Never had any rust problems on any of my cars, make sure you get the under car spray
As you give the Chevy guys grief, don't forget about the cam eating lifters. That AFM system is a joke.
Hemis are just as bad if not worse. Curious to see how the 22+ Coyotes will do with it
Just disabled my AFM in the ECM. Hope that helps with the oil burn and future lifter failure.
Hemis are worse but no body talks about it.
And now the Ford 7.3.
The lifters are all made by Eaton.
Same lifters in all three brands.
I'll deal with the GM AFM system over the self-destructing cam lobes in a Hemi.
@@SIGINT007 and broken valve springs.
Love the comments on this channel, just as fun to read as watching the video.
Anybody here still drinking Bud light or shopping at Target🤣🤣🤣
I'm so glad I live in the south.
That time of year where it's getting time
That looks like a job you do at the end of the day right before you go home and shower. My 2001 F250 in CA is totally rust free! 400k miles.
Why I love it here. No snow here in SoCal. If I snowed I would stay off the roads. No one here knows how to drive in the snow!
Up in rural Vermont I go every year to a local shop that’s been going for over 40 years that uses their own oil formula. It drips a little for few days and it doesn’t affect the plastics or gaskets or stuff you hear about from the doubters. A lot of towns send their highway trucks there every year
What about Corrosion X
Glad i live in the South!
Fluid film, bar& chain mixed 50/50 with transmission fluid, waxoyl, tectyl 506, noxudol, all good stuff. The trick is you have to do it and do it every single year. When you cannot reach under the car and touch something without getting greasy then its just right.
I live in TN and I still Fluid film my vehicles.
Very good job you do because your attention to details, ''almost'' more important than the rust proofing product. A friend of mine do have a 2007 GMC Sierra 2500HD with over 400,000 miles with almost nos rust on it, every spring, he pressure wash from a distance (NOT pressure blast, different) under his pick up truck 2 - 3 times to remove all the salt and aother accumulation, let it dry for 2-3 weekd than send it to rust proofing to a shop with attention to details. We do live 350 miles north-east of you, where 5 months/year we do have the roads cover with snow and salt/calcium and everything to rust anything. Because every vh do have specific building ways, in some places the need is to cover while in other places it is essential to have a product with high/very high capillary action in order to infltrate/penetrate in very narrow space such as where two sheet metal panels meet. You show a job very well done. 👍👌👍👌👍👌
I live in Washington and we have our share of snow and ice especially in the mountains. We don't use salt but rather sand and a deicing solution that can also be applied before it gets to freezing Temps.
Our cars don't rot out like this nor do they need this coating. The deicing solution is more expensive than salt, but it would be much cheaper for everyone overall given vehicle damage, road damage, etc.
It reminds me of Zbart. What happened to them.
I sure am proud to say I live in SW Oklahoma and it's never wet enough to rust here.... if it does rust the tornadoes blow it off and August we have dust storms that sandblast it all off too, you know when it's 112 in the shade.....
I sure wish we had this whole setup back in the late 1950's, all of the 1960's and 1970's. Saw some really great cars die a corroded death when they still ran good in Massachusetts.
When we moved to Southern California in 1976, that problem ended here. The bodies and frames of my 06 Nissan Frontier and my wife's 06 Kia Sorento are still solid although the Kia is a money pit by itself!
Mr. O, PLEASE buy a mask that is paint and oil spray rated and wear eye protection.
Thank you for showing this video with the great tool for applying the fluid film.
It gets Smokey like that every summer in the part of Canada that I live nice to see the wind is blowing it away from us for once
Thank you for turning me on to Fluid Film. I watched one of your video's years ago about using fluid film. I live in Chicago land same issues with winter salt here. I have a 2014 Ram. Started using fluid film in 2016. Its parked outside and driven every day year round. No major rust at all on the truck. There is a light surface rust on the driveshaft differential and a few spots on the frame. I do it ever year with the cans. It takes me 10 to 12 cans and about a day to do it but is worth it. I even drilled small access holes on the inside of the bed and spray inside with a extended straw. Then I use a small rubber grommet to plug the holes. Do the same with all the factory holes as well. I have no bed rocker or corner cap rust at all. One more place I forgot. I pull the third brake light and spray the inside of the roof. I have had problems with those seals leaking form time to time.
I always enjoy your content, especially your whacky sense of humour and banter with the lovely 'Mrs O' - You would be a godsend here in the U.K. - 'Family Garages' are rarer than hen's teeth, and Main Dealers cost FORTUNES and are usually unwilling or unable to undertake 'general repairs and maintenance' work. On a few occasions, I have been forced to make my OWN parts!, spares for even 2009 models being totally unavailable new and rare and expensive used ( from places like Lithuania- really!) Keep up the good work, be sure I'll be watching and laughing - best wishes to you, your wife and daughter - you're ALL GR8!
Dude, you're awesome! I'm 60 yr old, enjoy your banter with the camera. 2002 Ford F250 7.3 International! Ford THUNDER...