SCREAM (2022)'s THIRD KILLER REVEALED? | Analysis & FACTS... | Beyond The Mask

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  • @DavisXKen
    @DavisXKen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I think height needs to not be looked at all in slaher/whodunnit movies like this. The killer is essentially just a masked stand in. If they actually had the exact height of whoever the reveal is, all whodunnit/slasher things would be one wayyyy more obvious. You have to suspend disbelief just a little and remember it is just a movie. We're talking about scream. Anyways, not to say there can't be a 3rd killer. But I think the height of the killer doesn't mean anything in any scenes.

    • @ghostfac3182
      @ghostfac3182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Exactly.

    • @kyleroberts1276
      @kyleroberts1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not to mention, we get shown specifically that the killer is indeed wearing platform boots in the film, so it somewhat lends to the continuity

    • @Scary_Night_Productions
      @Scary_Night_Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@kyleroberts1276 exactly. And they just so happen to show Amber wearing the same boots when she's going down to the basement to get more beer. Those shots aren't in the movie by accident.

    • @qubblez
      @qubblez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THISSS

    • @DavisXKen
      @DavisXKen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Scary_Night_Productions didn't catch that. Can't wait til it comes out on DVD so I can rewatch it and look out for details like that now that I know who the killers are. Part of the reason I like things like this. It's fun to go back and look for little clues

  • @LevyPublicPool
    @LevyPublicPool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Mikey Madison actually wore platforms on all her shoes to make the height difference less obvious. She talked about this in an interview with the hollywood reporter. This would bing her closer to Dewey's height but still noticeably smaller than Chad.

    • @alina_gamer_xo
      @alina_gamer_xo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Same with Jill in Scream 4 she had to wear boots with heels. I see a pattern here with the female killers. Lol

    • @melissakitt
      @melissakitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @cindy anally wisconsin they do cuz even skeet Ulrich said on 1 interview that him and stu ( idk his name ) had to do some parts with the costume

    • @Climinator-op6kh
      @Climinator-op6kh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anyone actually notice there's never been a Scream film with two Ghostface's? I actually thought that's what they were going to go for this time. I remember thinking that Mindy and Liv would be the killers and that they'd put a twisted angle on the whole feminism thing in film as their motive. Just saying.

    • @yvanrg06
      @yvanrg06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yesss exactly!! you can actualy see that amber was wearing platform boots when she tried to trick sidney and gale into helping her outside of her/stu's house

    • @anthonyjones3835
      @anthonyjones3835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @cindy anally wisconsin no they don't lmao these idiots 'are just fanned out

  • @natsohigh5552
    @natsohigh5552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    But Amber genuinely relished in the fact that she killed Dewey just before she died.
    She was a loon. She would have been pissed she didn't take out a legacy character.

    • @Littlegreen42
      @Littlegreen42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She could be counting her, Richie and the third killer as one. So it was a win for them.

    • @luzonlasagna
      @luzonlasagna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Littlegreen42 nope. when amber was choking gale to death in the kitchen scene. amber tells gale that amber was the last thing dewey saw before he died. meaning she DID killed him

    • @xxshadowdevilx527
      @xxshadowdevilx527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luzonlasagna that's what billy said to but roman killed mommy js

    • @RuiterBRWNK
      @RuiterBRWNK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xxshadowdevilx527 Roman gave Billy the order to kill Maureen. He didn't do it with his own hands.

    • @fez284
      @fez284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luzonlasagna Isn't it odd though that Amber says *her* face is the last thing Dewey saw? Cause like, it wasn't. It was Ghostface not Amber. Dewey literally died not knowing who's the killer. He barely knew Amber at all.
      Look, 99.9% Amber did it, but odd she doesn't just flat out say "I killed Dewey."
      Also, Ghostface has talked *on screen* THREE times in the *entire* Scream universe outside of grunts of pain.
      And his third talking is specifically a quote from Charlie in Scream 4? A quote I highly doubt Amber nor Ritchie ever heard in their life.

  • @bleeep97
    @bleeep97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I feel like the reason why the killer in Dewey’s death was taller than dewey himself was because Dewey was kneeling down a bit and if you saw in the movie amber was actually on her tippy toes while killing him , just a little detail to point out

    • @jeremyarmstrong2602
      @jeremyarmstrong2602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I Do Think There Was A 3rd Killer,And I Believe That Stu Is Still Alive And Is Or could Be The 3rd Killer

    • @anthonyjones3835
      @anthonyjones3835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stunt man

    • @cinder7258
      @cinder7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremyarmstrong2602 Stu is alive, they might not utilise him however.

    • @davonfryar-frazier435
      @davonfryar-frazier435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cinder7258 No, he isn't

    • @davonfryar-frazier435
      @davonfryar-frazier435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeremyarmstrong2602 Stu is dead bro

  • @RikelWirkkunen
    @RikelWirkkunen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Dewey after being stabbed in the gut was hunched over and was already falling to the floor. His height relative to the Ghostface when he shoots them, he is taller.
    Both Skeet Ulrich and Matthew Lillard have said that when they were the killers, the majority of the time they were not under the costume but a stunt double who was taller than both of them. When Emma Roberts and Rory Culkin played the killer, their stunt double was also about 6’5 while both those actors are under 6 ft. The Ghostface has physical attributes such as speed, stamina, strength (Ms Loomis was able to over power Randy without a fight) and stature that remain consistent UNTIL the killer is revealed then suddenly all their abilities and traits are normal again

  • @magnet2593
    @magnet2593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    What if there was no third killer, but the producers did a clumsy careless job. Just a reminder that Amber sort of confessed to Gale that she killed Dewey. And the killers reveal everything to their victims when they take off their masks. And you are damn right. Many things don't make sense in this movie. They insulted our intelligence.

    • @Hannahgal11
      @Hannahgal11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah she could have done that just to upset Gale and Sidney

  • @Pure_asteroid89
    @Pure_asteroid89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I dont think the height should matter especially after scream 4. They are bad at picking stunt doubles thats it.

  • @j123a
    @j123a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I honestly was disappointed with the killer reveals in this one. I really liked the movie overall, but I just was kinda let down by the reveals. I mean, in the trailers, Dewey talks about how the killer is apart of something in the past and that it felt "different" this time. But, the killers weren't apart of the past at all. Unless you count Richie just cause he's Billy's daughter's boyfriend, but that doesn't make him really a part of the past. It didn't feel "different" to me either. They're wasn't really anything unique about it. But, that's just my opinion. I still did like the movie regardless.

    • @Nintendoshi
      @Nintendoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's because the plan of the fan making the remake was to frame Sam and make her the "killer related to the past".

    • @MrZombiejoe
      @MrZombiejoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. I was Hoping for Stu!!! Although I still Loved the Movie as well!!!

    • @Climinator-op6kh
      @Climinator-op6kh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually thought the victims in this one were related to the previous killers therefore I thought this new Ghostface could've been a vengeful relative trying to use the mantle to avenge their relative's death? Call it reverse-psychology.
      One person I thought would've been the killer is Casey Becker's previously unknown to us sister. (Played by Drew Barrymore).

    • @whadupyoo6387
      @whadupyoo6387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember wanting to see Stu in Scream 5 and it awesome seeing Billy again in Scream 5 but I do hope Stu gon come back in Scream 6 or in later sequels somehow tho

    • @Climinator-op6kh
      @Climinator-op6kh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whadupyoo6387 I was the same with Scream 5. I also thought Vincent looked more like a relation to Billy than he did to Stu.

  • @bggsz4
    @bggsz4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Between Amber and Richie, Amber was this movie's Billy Loomis in my opinion, meaning the obvious killer, that even the movie itself keeps telling you it's them. First, the opening kind of made Amber suspicious even before she appeared on-screen, like how the killer managed to film her perfectly for minutes next to a wide window with the curtains open, or the killer texting from Amber's phone knowing things that Amber would know really well. Second, the killer kept calling from her phone and she claimed it was cloned, but she just made the calls with her phone, like how Billy and Stu stole Sidney's dad's phone and called people through it, or Jill and Charlie stealing Trevor's phone and making the calls with it, or Roman calling from his own phone in multiple scenes. None of the killers have actually cloned a phone on the Scream franchise as the police always thought, the situation was just a simple theft, nothing hackery or something like that. Third clue to Amber being the killer, she had some resentment towards the main girl Sam, which gives an easy motive. Forth clue, she showed a lot of confidence to Mindy in the basement, while the others like Liv would've freaked out more. Fifth and final clue, she lives in Stu's house, that was the clue that made me 100% the killer is Amber, it's a Scream trope that for the final act party, the killer is the host (Stu, Roman).

  • @jacobwhozacky9923
    @jacobwhozacky9923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude the person under mask killing is not supposed to match the height of the reveal killers cuz it would help give it away, it's a who done it they won't let height of the killers reveal it to u u over thinking it

  • @TyWalkerMusic
    @TyWalkerMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    “Towering over Dewey” - but he was hunched over because he was already stabbed in the front

    • @alekszandor
      @alekszandor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly! He even arches his back backwards as he gets stabbed the second time. It is clearly visible in the shot.

    • @gerardoreyes5832
      @gerardoreyes5832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not only that but I've heard ppl say that she lifted him, which is not true his feet never left the ground. He was hunched over

    • @Sean-fu7ui
      @Sean-fu7ui 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. The shot he shows… Dewey is almost on his knees. And when Amber slams Dewey against the wall… same thing… Dewey is bent WAY down. Almost doing a wall sit.

    • @jennix8666
      @jennix8666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gerardoreyes5832 Exactly she didn't lift him, she slices the knives upward essentially gutting him with that move... 😞

    • @desmondedwards8234
      @desmondedwards8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennix8666 His feet were almost off the ground amber fanboy

  • @ronddue71493
    @ronddue71493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I immediately thought there was a third killer after watching the movie. Dewey’s immediately stood out to me that Amber couldn’t have been under the mask

    • @maulok8441
      @maulok8441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      She didn't overpower him or anything. She caught him off gaurd for literally a second and was able to knock him over only because of the element of suprise. He literally kicked her ass after that and the only reason he died is because Amber got a cheap shot the second he looked away. It was Amber.

    • @Φαντασμόφατσας
      @Φαντασμόφατσας 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She caught him of guard plus dewey is like what 55?he is retired,he drinks,and he is out of shape!so an 18 year old girl killing him makes sense becoz young people are more flexible!so i dont understand the whole thing

    • @kyleroberts1276
      @kyleroberts1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Why do people say this?
      Dewey wasn't wrestled or fought. He was caught off guard. Why do you assume Amber couldn't do it? And why is it always men who say it?
      Not to mention Amber admitting she did it

    • @maulok8441
      @maulok8441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kyleroberts1276 Because people don't pay enough attention and then complain it doesn't make sense

    • @ronddue71493
      @ronddue71493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maulok8441 I’m pretty sure I was paying attention. I never said she over powered him, it seem like ghost face was taller than Dewey and didn’t seem right when Amber claimed the kill. The fact that she’s 5’2 supports my thoughts. So 🖕🏽off

  • @nuttall7
    @nuttall7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    as much as i’d love for there to be a third killer, the dewey death was Amber.
    She admitted it to gale and sidney at the end

    • @davidwalker3198
      @davidwalker3198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That could be explained, she may have been bragging. Besides saying 'he died like a pu..." isn't admitting, it's more boasting and mocking.

    • @nuttall7
      @nuttall7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@davidwalker3198 of course, however i’m going to take what she said with “i can’t believe i get to do you both” to gale cements the fact it was her imo
      if they can explain it then fair enough

    • @chadmeeks-martin6084
      @chadmeeks-martin6084 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She could just have taken credit, killer was to tall for some of these attacks and some of them are definitely not richie, so dewey wasn't killed by amber, because ghostface was taller, I think it's Chad and there's so much evidence and proof for that

    • @dannyrollingghostface391
      @dannyrollingghostface391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amber taking credit for Dewey's death could be because she's an attention hor like Jill and just wanted Gale to put her in her book even if it wasn't true imo.

    • @BorgdroneQueen
      @BorgdroneQueen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      After she kills Dewey and the camera pans away she kicks him to the ground. In that shot you can clearly see that it is a short person as ghost face.

  • @krs-3695
    @krs-3695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chad and mindy or there mom are the true master minds behind it. I figured it out. So if you guys remember it was the twins mom who came to Sid and gale with a tape I believe it was scream 3 of her brother telling them the rules to follow to stay alive. Notice how the twins survive and give each other a thumbs up? Mindy and amber seemed very close as amber was mindy student. Amber said her and Richie met online on a fandom site or whatever. Amber pointed out chads bruise’s because he is the third killer. He killed dewy in hospital also. Notice how when chad us about to die he’s ready for it and ask about his ending mean it could have been more then one ending. His didn’t work. That why he didn’t kill mindy and ran to eliminate her from being considered as the killer. Amber did the same with chad. Just like the original chad survives just like his uncle randy?? So I’m thinking randy could have left his sis tapes exposing the whole deal or his sister doing it for revenge.

  • @beccabex321
    @beccabex321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't think that the Ghostface stunt double needs to perfectly match the height of the character who's meant to be under the mask, but I do think (since they clearly do sometimes put the actual actors in the costume) that the continuity within the film should be accurate. If you're going to sometimes have Ghostface be the actual actor and significantly smaller, then you also should have a stunt double that is reasonably similar in build for that actor. I don't think that makes things too obvious, as there are generally multiple characters with similar size/build within the films. I also have more of an issue with like... relative strength than height. Many of the Ghostface attacks are blitz attacks, which seriously injure the victim and makes it difficult for them to fight back, so I rarely have an issue believing that a smaller Ghostface could achieve that, but in the case of... for example, Wes' attack, where Wes is able to begin to fight back without injury and his death was down to brute strength Wes vs Ghostface, I would have a very difficult time believing Amber full out just overpowered him, considering their size/muscle mass difference. Since I think Richie is the one who killed Wes, I don't specifically have a problem with that in this film, but if they had tried to say that was definitely Amber, I think I would struggle to suspend disbelief for that.
    I would definitely be interested in there being a 3rd killer who is revealed in Scream 6. Obviously it could be done very poorly, but executed correctly that could be quite cool!

  • @davidwalker3198
    @davidwalker3198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wasn't on board with this... But after this video, I am??? Damn, this channel is honestly the best Scream Channel y'all.

    • @patrickdempsy14
      @patrickdempsy14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Unpopular opinion, beyond the mask is better than zach cherry

    • @mellmurder
      @mellmurder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@patrickdempsy14 +1

    • @Greengobler
      @Greengobler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@patrickdempsy14 agreed 100%

    • @davidwalker3198
      @davidwalker3198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickdempsy14 He's so much better. I do like Zach, but this channel is far better for Scream content.

    • @dannyrollingghostface391
      @dannyrollingghostface391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Greengobler 110%

  • @jacobbosma2344
    @jacobbosma2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the final act, Amber said that she was the last to see Dewey before he died. Her motive (to be part of something) and Richie's (saving the franchise) are not as covincing as the motive of Nancy Loomis in the fabulous Scream 2 (good old-fashioned revenge), but who needs motives in a Scream-movie anyway? We all know what Randy said about motives. It's much scarier when there isn't a motive.
    There is a possibility that Amber's words in the third act gave something away to the viewer. 'I was radicalised. I just wanted to be part of something.' If there was someone pulling the strings, Amber - who lived in the Macher house - and Richie would have been easy to find for the third possible killer.

  • @maurocabral420
    @maurocabral420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if it's someone related to Roman in Scream 3. Maybe Roman had a kid that grew up without their dad. Now they want revenge.

  • @Nostrhomo
    @Nostrhomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I honestly was a big skeptic, I just assumed they got lazy with not realizing the height of ghost face. However, I have done some deep diving, and the other ghost face killers seemed pretty accurate in height compared to their on screen performances. We know this is a new director, writer, etc. so I have to wonder if they didn't realize what they were doing or if there's more meaning to it. I honestly lean more towards that they didn't realize the inconstancies, but we'll find out.

    • @kyleroberts1276
      @kyleroberts1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The directors themselves said Amber did almost all of the killing. There should be no question of a 3rd killer. People like to think they know better than the directors.

    • @Nostrhomo
      @Nostrhomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyleroberts1276 I mostly agree, I don't think it should be taken too seriously, and there are some interesting things that stand out to support the theory. Even though I don't think there's a 3rd killer, the directors statement that Amber did most of the killing, doesn't mean there isn't a 3rd killer. Unless they said that all the killing was done by Amber and Richie.

    • @carlossouzacosta4254
      @carlossouzacosta4254 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kyleroberts1276 I don't give a flyng f*ck about this lame ass characters i just want Stu back because Matthew Lillard is awesome and waaay better actor than everyone in this new casting!

  • @officialchristopher
    @officialchristopher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dewey looks bent over because she just stabbed him in the stomach which is why she looks so much taller.

  • @baxterwilson368
    @baxterwilson368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the commentary the filmmakers said they treated Ghostface as a separate character and didn’t worry about height and build, something Craven himself did with the other movies. Besides, saying someone else killed Dewey takes away from Amber’s character.

  • @AlfredAmeneyro21
    @AlfredAmeneyro21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Well. When I saw the movie for the first time, I thought (and my friends I saw it with) of the third killer when Sidney shoots Richie who is inside the closet, she gets knockdown the stairs by Ghostface-Amber, but the cinematography and editing made it feel it was a third one. Richie is still in the closet, Amber is hiding somewhere in the first floor, so who knocked Sidney? That's how I feel about that scene still after watching the movie a couple of times more. Still this scene makes me wonder.
    Also the initial attack on Tara, after she locks out Ghostface in the front door, she gets attacked in the back. If Richie was with Sam that night, and Amber was at the front door, who attacked her? I don't think that Amber ran so fast to the back of the house before Amber locked down the doors and I don't believe Richie would escape at night without Sam noticing him going and coming back in a single night in what seems, kinda of a long road...
    But that's just me...

    • @mysticmonk5037
      @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amber was the ghostface that attacked sydney in that scene & they both fall down the top of the stairs.
      After Ritchie reveals himself, Amber gets up & even takes the mask off in that scene so it was CLEARLY Amber.

    • @mysticmonk5037
      @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and Tara’s first attack, its not hard to believe that ghostface quickly ran around the back. ghostface even calls Tara and asks “do you think i made it inside your house before you could rearm?”

    • @mysticmonk5037
      @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the directors said the kills were mostly amber but with the exception of the opening scene & they said we could say it was both Ritchie or Amber.
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    • @TheParanormalVeil
      @TheParanormalVeil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There isn't anywhere in the movie that states Richie was with Sam the night of the attack on Tara. It's just assumed he was in Modesto. Both Modesto and Woodsboro are in California, Richie could easily have driven to Woodsboro. Its clearly him who attacks Tara in the kitchen, and Amber who's at the front door.

  • @sierracindrell5775
    @sierracindrell5775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dewey is hunched over the whole time he’s next to Ghostface, so she’s not towering over him. She stabs him right away and he drops down.

    • @jaguarrose7022
      @jaguarrose7022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's just the last few seconds of their final interaction. The fight before shows their size difference. When ghostface runs out the room and tackles Dewey you can see ghostface is taller or atleast the same height. No way that was Amber.

  • @iknowjack316
    @iknowjack316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it was Stu, because the Death of Dewie felt very very personal, and it makes sense Stu would want to finish what he started also cause Matthew Lillard is a pretty tall guy. That is just my opinion

    • @iknowjack316
      @iknowjack316 ปีที่แล้ว

      @dark_shadows47 it's also a movie and anything can happen, is it still real to you ?

  • @drunclecookie216
    @drunclecookie216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just watched this last night.... holy cow, they really should have just quit after the 2nd one. I knew that Amber chick was an accomplice right off the start, but the fact that she's the one running around in the ghostface costume doing most of the kills and overpowers Dewey is just ridiculous. This ghostface was tall, buff and very overpowered, and we're supposed to believe this skinny little girl is doing all that? Also, how was the boyfriend a killer too? Throughout the whole movie the dude was either with his girlfriend or the sister in the hospital. When did he ever have time to do anything? It was just like the last movie where the killers are Emma Roberts and that skinny little nerd guy, give me a break. At least Skeet Ulrich and Matthew Lillard were convincing killers and even Mickey in the 2nd (although Laurie Metcalf in the 2nd overpowering Jamie Kennedy wasn't very believable either). I don't necessarily think it's setting up a mysterious third killer, I think it's just lazy bad writing.

  • @hashtagfilm
    @hashtagfilm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ghostface was technically around the same height as Dewey. When he is stabbed in the back, Dewey is bending at the knees, making it appear like Ghostface is towering over him, and when the camera zooms out with Ghostface standing over Dewey, he doesn't look that tall realistically.
    The writers and directors absolutely mapped out plan for the new movies. They will all come full circle

  • @necrohorror9000
    @necrohorror9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I FIRMLY believe that they not only had "Scream 6" pre-written but, they have an outline for a part 7 as well! I believe they want to carry on and/or finish the second trilogy that obviously Wes can't finish ( ✝️✝️ R.I.P Wes ✝️✝️ ), and that's why I'm hearing alot of that part 4 is now being looked at as a standalone film. So I definitely agree that they had part 6 more or less ready to go and they knew if this was going to be a success that the studio was going to greenlight a sequel almost immediately! ☠️

  • @stephenmcclellan7320
    @stephenmcclellan7320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My biggest question was who attacked Mindy? They make it seem like it's obviously Richie because at that point Amber was with Tara, but after ghost face disappears and Richie reappears its such a short amount of time in which he had to get out the ghost face costume, get the beers from the basement and come back into the room at the same time everyone else does. Just didn't seem likely imo.

  • @RossNerdyScotsman
    @RossNerdyScotsman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3rd killer could be Stu as he apparently is still alive and his face is probably deformed from the burns from the TV so anyone could play him as he was meant to be in scream 3

  • @nicstevens8625
    @nicstevens8625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you thought about the fact that when ghostface is “towering over Dewey” that Dewey isn’t standing up straight where ghostface very much is, your argument here is rather flimsy

  • @Jarmix-vq3gn
    @Jarmix-vq3gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I found the mannerisms of ghostface in S5 to be very 'female killer' style. Dare I say 🙄 the whole double handed thing for extra strength and the way ghostface ran around in some scenes and handling of the knife position, movement of the head looking left and right etc which we get from amber with the mask off in the 3rd act. Also when she says maybe it's cos your a selfish b**** to Sam on the phone. It's all very catty 😂.

    • @TheBanshee90
      @TheBanshee90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The first GF killer is def Amber, and her GF killer is always obviously "weaker" see her getting whooped by Dewey and Randy's cousin/football player.
      I'd have to go through all the scenes to figure out when the BF is Ghostface.

  • @fez284
    @fez284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look, 99.9% it's just Amber and Ritchie by themselves.
    HOWEVER !
    Here's some weird factoids to think over about this "secret third killer" idea.
    Ghostface's first name he utters in opening call is Charlie, a character from 4. Ghostface also even QUOTES Charlie with his now iconic "It's an honor." Something I highly doubt Amber or Ritchie somehow learned themselves.
    Ritchie was seriously worried about Amber in the final act. Yet he seemed meh about Dewey going to headshot hospital Ghostie.
    Gale's call isn't confirmed being the killing jumpscare. Sure we see her calling *around* that time. But Ghostie messes with phones like all the time though. Obviously Amber/Ritchie didn't make the call. Who did it? Actually Gale or no?
    Amber mentions her being Dewey's last vision, but it was a mask he saw ,and Dewey literally died never knowing Amber was a killer at all. Odd she says that.
    Amber says "WAIT WAIT WAIT! I'M SORRY *ABOUT* DEWEY!" before being shot. Why suddenly *about* Dewey?
    In the final act, the phone line in the house rings. It genuinely startles both Ritchie and Amber. Why are they startled? Who called? Obviously no one in the house. Tara definitely didn't have a phone. Why's Sam so chill about it?
    In the final act, we see Dewey's gun and Judy's gun being used by the killers after they stole them. We also see a Sidney's gun on her. However, it seriously appears like a 4th gun is present. Who's gun? Think they bought a gun only to steal 2 more?
    Amber and Ritchie weirdly never express their plans with each other. Literally zero Ghosties end up NOT betraying somehow until 5 (not counting 3 solo Ghost). Maybe they betrayed someone already?
    Anyway, I'm a crazy Scream conspiracy nut lol. Ignore me. But hey! Never know ;)

  • @dhafir.jackson
    @dhafir.jackson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amber definitely was Ghostface for the demise of Dewey especially when she was chocking Gale saying she can’t believe she gets to do them both and other comments of pride with that kill. Her being Ghostface for Tara’s attack also makes sense because of Ghostface’s comments at the hospital while attacking Tara again and assuming Richie and Sam were probably together that night to no throw suspension his way and that the video of her was a pre made one.
    Now if there was a third killer, I would like it to be and think it would be my girl Mindy. Yes she is deemed as the new expert like her uncle Randy, but low key Chad is too from the family ties alone and has shown signs of horror movie survival thinking and instincts. Also who would be a better Ghostface than an expert and it could grow into a good twin bad twin situation in future films. I do think it would only really work though if Mindy were participating in the kills as a rouge Ghostface to add twist to a great requel with no ties to it and I would say her only killings would have either been just the Hicks’s or the Hicks and Vincent (maybe).
    This would also be my fun version of fulfilling my wish to get a new spin on things like what could have been from the original ending of scream 4 if Ghostface won at the end with Sidney suffering from Amnesia while the tables got turned on Jill with Kirby popping up to get sweet revenge.

  • @TheBanshee90
    @TheBanshee90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ignore the height of Ghost Face Killer. It has never been a Clue. If height was important than the 3rd killer would likely be Tara's Father, but really think it makes more sense that Tara was the 3rd killer. Scream has been a bit meta so the first scene deposition to act as the red herring is fine imo. I mean you have the new Randy doing a cheap 4th wall breaker on Requels. And you can explain away the act as her mom having cameras or security inside the house (I mean she was using tech locks on the house already, knew creepos could know she is connected to Billy, and knew creepos like to reboot and do a little GF killing.
    The most obvious Ghostface Killer is Tara.
    I mean whose life is ruined most by Sam being the son of Billy? Tara.
    Her sister runs away to Modesto, Her Father runs out never to return, her mom becomes the town's drunk/bicycle (The phone call makes it appear that Tara has frequent run ins with the Boyfriend of the week).
    She was what? Fucking 12 when this all goes down. There is obvious age gap between Sam and Tara's friend group. So I am guess 12 year old Tara and ~ 18 year old Sam and I think the movie says that Sam ranaway or hasn't talked to tara in like 5+ years so it all seems right.
    Tara leads Sam to every interaction she has with the killer. Hospital 1, Hospital 2, and House Party are all because of Tara. The end of the Amber and Richie's act 3 was supposed to be Tara "Saving Sam" only to have Tara kill Sam. Tara, Richie, and Amber all tell the police that Sam the psycho daughter of serial killer Billy Loomis was the Killer.
    The only issue being that Sid and Gale were never supposed to be at the house. Richie gets everyone out of the house as the goofy dad character leaving only the people needed to frame Sam. Sid and Gale show up and beat Amber's ghost face and Sam beats Richie's ghost face. Tara can't have the great reveal since it is 3 v 1 and she is still somewhat injured from the 1st staged, but physically real attack.

  • @ForWhatItsWorth_
    @ForWhatItsWorth_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I said that there were too many survivors in this new scream. Maybe that was done by design.

  • @modrozelenaalga9607
    @modrozelenaalga9607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    -Stu is the only killer in the series whose death scene was survivable.
    -Stab movies recreated some conversations and events with 100% accuracy (like the death of Casey Becker), which means somebody had to provide that information to the movie makers. Who could have done that apart from Stu?

  • @BenBex26
    @BenBex26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stu is alive in the scream universe. According to Wes Craven himself.

  • @JamesBavolacco
    @JamesBavolacco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn’t Dewey on his knees when he was stabbed?

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:45 On his who killed who videos Wolfman's Got Nards pointed out that because it's a stuntman playing Ghostface in scenes before the reveal you can't use size to work out who the killer is.

  • @lildrab2888
    @lildrab2888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The person who plays ghostface is a stunt double and not meant to look like the killers we can't base our opinions on the physique of ghostface

  • @cisarvitiate
    @cisarvitiate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    But didn’t Amber said herself, that she killed Dewey?
    Also Stu is just dead and everyone who thinks he could somehow survive the TV Fallen on his head and then somehow escaped unnoticed by police or Sidney’s gang for almost 30 years, lie to themself.

    • @wayneturner8575
      @wayneturner8575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amber easily could be lying,to take credit for someone else's work.Plus,to taunt Gale with the lie.
      Stu could easily still be alive. Stu was suppose to be the mastermind behind some high school killer's in 3,but was scrapped because of a real life high school massacre that happened.Also,Wes Craven,said Stu was still alive,just hadn't come up with a suitable story,to use him in,since the 3 idea was scrapped.

    • @CamCamWithoutAPlan
      @CamCamWithoutAPlan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Plus stu got stabbed and was bleeding at the time of his death its pretty solid to say he is dead

    • @travishall7734
      @travishall7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stu was meant to be the killer in Scream 3 before it got rewritten last minute because of a real life killing so clearly Stu is still alive just probably in prison. Just look it up this was news years ago. 😂

    • @tigerlord9302
      @tigerlord9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stu wasn’t supposed to survive there and “escape unnoticed”.
      He was supposed to be in an insane asylum and escape there unnoticed.

    • @nyxly1759
      @nyxly1759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Billy said the same about Sidney’s mother and that wasn’t true

  • @Awkward_Runner
    @Awkward_Runner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing that retcons a potential 3rd killer. Amber already confirmed that she killed Dewy. There’s no reason for her to lie?

  • @Greengobler
    @Greengobler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right after I left the movie theater I immediately said chad was the third killer and no one believed me and my reason for that is:
    Someone was filming amber and it had to be live cause when ghostface says "then I'll kill ber then" the blade moves up meaning its live so two killers at Amber's one at Tara's then notice how Mindy doesn't die and puts up her own against richie.. I think amber double crossed chad but richie still followed there deal and didn't kill Mindy...
    That's just my theory

    • @763pat
      @763pat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man I think the same there was clues it was Chad there were too many survivors

    • @Gemini91mk
      @Gemini91mk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it was just a bad edit job and not thought out. Had it been a facetime call, then yeah cool, but Tara literally recieved a video message from Ambers phone, and was watching it. Had they opted for a facetime call then it would've been more believable. That's the only issue I had with that scene.

  • @kyleroberts1276
    @kyleroberts1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    There is no 3rd killer. It's a stupid ass theory passed around by people both offended and unsatisfied with the killers we have.
    Amber admitting to killing Dewey. She also admitting to attacking Tara.
    Not to mention, Radio Silence themselves admitted Amber did almost every kill. Anyone disputing otherwise is delusional.

    • @jaydonarchuleta5691
      @jaydonarchuleta5691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      THANK YOU!!! it's literally facts

    • @nyxly1759
      @nyxly1759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why tf you pressed over a theory?

    • @kyleroberts1276
      @kyleroberts1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@nyxly1759 shouldn't you be saying that to the ones making up conspiracy theories? Ignoring facts and insisting the directors are wrong?

    • @mysticmonk5037
      @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      thank you.
      the 3rd killer theory was created by Stu stans who were mad about who the killers were in scream 5.

    • @itswariotime7543
      @itswariotime7543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wasn't Stu Macher the third killer? 😭😭😭😭 You're right, we're not satisfied with the two killers we have, it would be better if Amber were a follower of a cult dedicated to Billy and Stu.

  • @StarshineGoomba
    @StarshineGoomba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually hope that there was a third killer in Scream (2022). If for no other reason, than for a killer to survive the events of the movie, seemingly getting away with it for a time. You know... only to slip up and get caught later on.

    • @lunajohnson7091
      @lunajohnson7091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There wasn’t a 3rd killer. Periodt.

  • @Maxwell_FromTheLand
    @Maxwell_FromTheLand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Justice for Amber. She got an OG. She had style every time she was the one under the mask. She had the most distinctive killing style since Stu and Billy. Way better then “poke-em once guy” she teamed up with. Absolute savage.

    • @lunajohnson7091
      @lunajohnson7091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesss she deserves the credit lmao screw Stu!!

    • @Maxwell_FromTheLand
      @Maxwell_FromTheLand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate not getting slammed for this comment. So much of the online fan base conversation post Scream 5 seems to revolve around Stu, and while I’d have loved it when they came up with the idea back in the day, I have serious doubts about it being a good idea now. I’d love to see more conversation centered around the amazing movie we just received instead of hyping everyone up for “Stu in Scream 6.” I really enjoyed the killers in this movie, and the hate just honestly surprised me. Also I liked Sam and felt the performance was realistic and nuanced. Ok bye! (Sprints away from chat….)

    • @desmondedwards8234
      @desmondedwards8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lunajohnson7091 You just don't want stu to return and you want a strong female character that's all

    • @lunajohnson7091
      @lunajohnson7091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@desmondedwards8234 when scream 6 comes out and it turns out it’s not Stu, I’m gonna be laughing so hard 😂

    • @desmondedwards8234
      @desmondedwards8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lunajohnson7091 He will be returning in scream 8 in 2027 he is in the cast

  • @MoserMovieReviews
    @MoserMovieReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dewy just got stabbed in the stomach of course he’s bent over and not at his true standing height which would make him smaller than Amber. Plus she literally admits to it

    • @mysticmonk5037
      @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yea while Amber is strangling Gale, she says “i was the last thing dewey saw before he died too, i cant believe i get to do you both”

  • @qubblez
    @qubblez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i heard a rumor that liv was the third killer and she was supposed to kill chad but couldn't pull through with it so amber shot her in the face in that one scene. just a rumor tho i dont think its true but there was def a third killer

  • @fatherdeath6607
    @fatherdeath6607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Richie was supposedly with Sam in Modesto when Tara was attacked, which pretty much confirms a 3rd killer for the opening attack at least.

    • @wandasvis3321
      @wandasvis3321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, It was all amber by herself.

    • @desmondedwards8234
      @desmondedwards8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@wandasvis3321 That killer was very tall that attacked Tara, amber as Ghostface is not that tall.

  • @James_Smith862
    @James_Smith862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God, I hope so. If they can retcon this movie just a little bit, make it truly a part of a larger planned story, then my rating for it will skyrocket.

  • @justjakestuart
    @justjakestuart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally always thought the best twist to this plot line with a surprise 3rd killer would have been Tara, no one has ever survived an opening scene kill, especially as fucking brutal as that! Also missed all of the right organs. She could have easily been a mastermind with the motive of wanting to kill her sister for abandoning her! Or if they wanted to make it a little messed up, wanted to feel close to her sister with the wrong impression that Sam would have been just like her father. That’s what I think personally! There’s a lot of routes that could have worked with this. Potential plots twist for future films?

  • @Bug_Pokemon_Master
    @Bug_Pokemon_Master 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been a fan of the scream movies since the first movie and I would like to point out that each killer and this was evidence in the scream series, each killer has there own signature. For example in scream 5 amber used two knives, her partner killer always kept the knife raised. However, in one of the kills in scream 5 the first kill I believe the killer wipes the blade of the knife after the kill in the same manner Billy Loomis daughter does after she kills the boyfriend and given her ties to Billy Loomis, and one of the themes to scream 5 is legacy, and their doing a six one it's very easy to use one movie to set Sam as the hidden third killer and in the next movie explore the reasons why. Because she hinted she left for 5 years because she wanted to protect her sister from herself and she could be playing a much longer endgame since ghost face killers like to hide in plain sight.

  • @sicindividual5921
    @sicindividual5921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else questioning the quick flash at the end of ghost face cleaning his blade infront of stu's house.. almost as if a third killer hid out till the reporter's and police left them came out to start planning the sequel cause everybody knows nowadays you gotta have a sequel

  • @Ttking1018
    @Ttking1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching this over and over again, I think amber in fact did kill dewy. But there is possibly more killers, could be Stu, could be Kirby. Could be someone else that somehow survived from the past. Stu makes the most sense.

    • @mysticmonk5037
      @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that makes no sense. why would Stu kill his own nephew Vince?

  • @davidburrus3913
    @davidburrus3913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree when I watched it premiere when Tara was attacked and it was a female voice saying system locked/ system unlocked. I noticed that right away.

  • @JohnSmith-ks3qk
    @JohnSmith-ks3qk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The third killer is Tara. She is unrelated to the two killers in this movie. She has mental health issues, is related to the original killer (Billy) and has a prime motive. Her motive is that her family member was killed by Sydney. Also by eliminating everyone around her she could go back to a normal life. Also she is being goaded and encouraged by Billy in hallucinations. I must stress she was not involved with the two killers, I feel this is a unique twist in that there are two groups of killers at one time. Let me know your thoughts.

    • @ringmaster7866
      @ringmaster7866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol no! First of all there is a 3rd killer it isn’t Tara sorry try again

    • @JohnSmith-ks3qk
      @JohnSmith-ks3qk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ringmaster7866 that's a not a valid response, atleast offer some counter arguement you muppet.

  • @mysticmonk5037
    @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think your analysis of Dewey’s death scene is wrong...
    the ghostface that kills dewey is shorter than him/almost the same height if you look at the fight/struggle before Dewey shoots ghostface
    she (Amber) looks tall for like 2 seconds when she stabs him and he sorta bends his knees..
    ghostface is also wearing boots, that made her seem taller but not really

  • @NovaStarfox113
    @NovaStarfox113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before the movie cane out I knew Richie was one of the killers , since the actor was in the hunger games “Marvel “ which he was killing ppl in that movie

  • @williamskelton325
    @williamskelton325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Dewey was almost on his knees when the final kill blow happened having been distracted by his chirping phone. This allowed Amber to get the jump on him with a cheap shot
    2. Amber says to gale "I get to do you both" granted she's a loon and maybe could have been saying that just to mess with Gale, but Amber wasn't even a good enough actress to fake being stabbed so I really don't think she was lying when she said that.
    3. Also the movies just generally have stunt doubles, sometimes multiple people play the killer in one movie depending on the nature of the kill/scene needing to be filmed. Amber's stunt double may have been a few inches taller.

  • @TheMlerich30
    @TheMlerich30 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seriously doubt a tiny little girl like amber could overpower Dewey like what we saw. That was a brutal fight that had to be a full grown man.

  • @MichaelAMyers1957
    @MichaelAMyers1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unless there's a 2nd way to get in or out the basement, how did Richie attack Mindy? And also, the way ghostface ran off after attacking mindy was just odd to me. It wasnt a normal run, and no other ghostface has done it before. Amber was with Tara so couldn't have been her.

    • @Shane3125
      @Shane3125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that was weird to me. But something else that bothered me was the first movie didn't have a basement, it was a garage. I didn't think the original house had a basement.

    • @MichaelAMyers1957
      @MichaelAMyers1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shane3125 could be possible that the basement was just never shown. Hollywood isn't know for using logic so who knows.

    • @TheParanormalVeil
      @TheParanormalVeil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Richie simply went into the basement, put on the costume and then came back out into the house.

  • @ellalangrock1850
    @ellalangrock1850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theres three. Who was filming amber through her window during the factime call before Tara's attack?
    The houses are definitely far from eachother as we see the macher house is isolated, and I don't think richie or amber would have been able to jailbreak a facetime. My prediction is there's a third killer, and it's Charlie.

  • @shantastic1969
    @shantastic1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dewey's killer most probably was wearing a bulletproof vest, which was never discussed in the movie. So that makes me think there maybe a third killer. Or the director never cared enough to match the height and built to the final two killers.

  • @Φαντασμόφατσας
    @Φαντασμόφατσας 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its the stuntman people 😑 there is no 3rd killer

    • @kyleroberts1276
      @kyleroberts1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. It's like trying to explain gravity to a chicken.

    • @jaydonarchuleta5691
      @jaydonarchuleta5691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly...people are going nuts with these theories. It's the stuntman and the directors confirmed 90% of the scenes of ghostface were Amber

  • @Jays6926
    @Jays6926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For scream 6 , it would be cool to see Stu’s sister as the killer. Just imagine Stu is getting out on Parole (if he’s alive) and so there is a new set of ghost face killings. Kind of like psycho two where the recently released killer starts getting blamed for the new murders. Imagine it being Stu’s sister because Stu ruined her life. Because of him, her son is dead.

    • @jennix8666
      @jennix8666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean sounds good if he's alive, which I doubt, but I don't think someone who willfully killed as many people as Stu did would get out after less then 30 years in prison if at all. He'd have gotten life without parole for the level of his crime

  • @JohnSmith-xg9wx
    @JohnSmith-xg9wx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Let It Go, Frozen" 😂😂🤣💀

  • @stevep8453
    @stevep8453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Radio silence said Ritchie stabbed her at the door, but Amber was the one in the house...

    • @ringmaster7866
      @ringmaster7866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No way he was in a whole never town so put it this way he drove to Taras house joined amber then drove back thatt a 4,3 hour drive so 9 hours of him missing without Sam not icing it

    • @ilovezoom3719
      @ilovezoom3719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ringmaster7866 I don’t think they live together so why would she ever notice

  • @TheLonelySoulja
    @TheLonelySoulja 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think even with lifts in her shoes it could bring her height up to about Dewey’s. Also he would always be slouching HARD due to all the nerve damage for 3 movies and possibly be a skull fracture from the pan to the back of the head. That doesn’t help that she over powered Dewey. I don’t care how banged up he was at the beginning of the fight she shouldn’t be able to go toe to toe with him. The good thing about Scream 2 was when it was “Debbie” aka Billy’s mom aka Sam’s grandma, they had her at from behind hard and fast to take people out.

  • @GoatofNothin
    @GoatofNothin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you rank all of the movies from least favorite from favorite please I love your videos and I’m subscribed 💜

  • @Lo0serx3
    @Lo0serx3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it only looks like the Ghostface is towering over Dewey because of the angle is how I always saw it.

  • @pdbuck99
    @pdbuck99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the video that spoiled the movie for me… scrolling thru youtube and this thumbnail pops up in my recommended. I was trying to wait for the movie to be released to streaming to finally be able to see it. So thanks for that.

  • @psykoShr00m
    @psykoShr00m ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah you can't go by height or anything in these movies.

  • @peculiarchap
    @peculiarchap 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It will make sense to have a Third killer, but not because of the reasons that the video mentioned, but because of SCREAM 2022 Being a requel to SCREAM 1996, SCREAM 1996 Have a third killer / mastermind in Roman Bridger - So they could easily use the same pattern. My first guess is Hank Loomis, If they can bring back Billy, they can bring back his Father, who we haven't heard from since SCREAM 1996.

  • @RevolverVash
    @RevolverVash 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people read too much into actual height and sizes of the actors.
    Size means nothing on these movies.
    They actually use stunt people for these action scenes, it's actually common.

  • @nhboone
    @nhboone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would be interesting if there was a third killer who had gone rogue or is working alone and then in the big reveal, each of the killers is like "you're Ghostface too?!?"

  • @matthewgoodhart3268
    @matthewgoodhart3268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can you not be on board with stu being alive that's what wes wanted to eventually happen.

  • @brgillenwater
    @brgillenwater 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it's possible that there is a 3rd killer. Just throw away the height thing though. It's possibly a Roman type killer being the actual mastermind watching from the wings. I know it's believed to be Tara calling the land line at Amber's house at the end, but the phone is never answered. Possibly it's the 3rd killer checking in on the events. Which is why Richie is nervous and doesn't want to answer it. Seems kinda stupid and pointless for Tara to call the house phone instead of the police as well as let the killers know she's free. Also if Richie was sure it Tara wouldn't it be easier to find her if she's having to talk on the phone while Amber searched?

  • @RebeccaSmile19
    @RebeccaSmile19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think there must of been a third killer I kinda hope there was, it would be a good way to enter the next instalment instead of having a copycat killer or something! I'm so over the Stu is alive stuff, if they went down that route now it wouldn't be a surprise and would be fan service instead of a good twist.

  • @gordonhotchkiss6426
    @gordonhotchkiss6426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Their is one problem with your theory that Amber didn't kill Dewie. She actually confessed she did it. She admitted it was her. in the final battle between Amber v Gale and Sydney. Amber taunted Gale with the fact it was her who killed Dewie

  • @AceAureus
    @AceAureus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the thing with Dewey was just to throw people off so by the end when you realize it was Amber you're left thinking how it was possible. I think the reason Amber appears taller during the fight with Dewey is because he already appears shorter because of his limp from previous injuries plus he was hunched over in pain from the fight so when Amber stood up it look like she was a lot bigger which made us think it couldn't be her

  • @williamskelton325
    @williamskelton325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only opening for a third killer I see is in the Tara scene. When she fights back she punches Ghostface in the face twice and trips him/her so they whack their head on her counter and fall to the ground. Unless that's a really padded mask I would think Richie or Amber should have had some bruising to their face. They bring up bruises to chad but no one really questions that?
    Still the 3rd killer theory...I mean...who is it? Martha Meeks? Lol

  • @Schmoodie
    @Schmoodie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think personally there was a third killer that was supposed to get away and not reveal themselves just in case the plan didn’t work. A backup I suppose you could call it.

  • @Sean-fu7ui
    @Sean-fu7ui 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dewey is almost on his knees in the shot you showed ghostface stabbing Dewey haha. He is almost on the ground. And when they show the shot of ghostface standing over Dewey’s body…. You can tell they are short.

  • @roxasora225
    @roxasora225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally believe there was a 3rd killer! I’m on the Stu train-I believe he is the one who killed Dewey. I could see Amber being the one who faked knocking Richie out and followed Tara while on the phone with Sam, but remember when Dewey and Sam pop out of the elevator, Amber quickly jumps into a room next to her-here, I think is where she was replaced with the 3rd killer…Sam and Dewey didn’t see the switch do to them trying to help Tara and Richie.
    It would be awesome to see Stu back do to him being the one who stabbed Dewey in the back in the original-but this time coming back to finish the job! (He just told Amber she could have the credit for killing him because he didn’t want anyone to see/know that he was still alive!).

  • @albarr9281
    @albarr9281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I left the cinema thinking there was a third killer - the male cop (played by Chester Tam). He was always around!

  • @nooneknows9387
    @nooneknows9387 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i personally dont think there was a third killer, i think that they didnt intend for there to be a different stunt double for kills like chad (maybe the stunt double used for kills like dewey was ill/unavailable) but they could have just waiting for them ti be available. I honestly think that they just need to work on using a stunt double similar to the size of the actual killer

  • @relytddot
    @relytddot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It could be Stu just for the reason that they always say shoot the killer in the head or they come back and in the new Scream they said that a few times to push the fact that if the killer isn't shot in the head than they aren't dead

  • @rileyrage
    @rileyrage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 ghost faces killing dewy was missed opportunity … /// then 3 killers finale

  • @magnet2593
    @magnet2593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some say Amber was taking credit for Dewey's murder, but it doesn't make sense. She pleads for her life and says it wasn't her fault, and Gale says you killed my best friend and Amber suddenly wants to confess to a crime that she didn't commit in the middle of pleading not guilty? Come on!

    • @z100gaga
      @z100gaga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not true, she said it wasn’t her fault about becoming a killer, that she was radicalized by the internet and forums. She became a killer after interacting with those people online hence her comment “they’re mad”

    • @mysticmonk5037
      @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amber also confesses while she’s strangling Gale & says “i was the last thing dewey saw before he died too, i cant believe i get to do you both”

  • @gabbyb7347
    @gabbyb7347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Ghostface costume gives the characters super human powers, height, ghost like powers to disappear etc. Charly was short too.

    • @mysticmonk5037
      @mysticmonk5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i wouldn’t say super powers, but it gives killers the illusion of being powerful & strong thats why they are all unstoppable until they are unmasked/revealed.
      so ghostface’s big phsyique sometimes is meant to mirror that illusion that the killers think they are powerful.

  • @caityboozulik2130
    @caityboozulik2130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do think it is stu macher is the third killer

  • @allgood2000
    @allgood2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At this point I've grudgingly accepted that the makers of slashers are always going to "cheat" by having a stuntman play the costumed killer, so the killer's stature and physical prowess mean nothing. What really annoys me is when you can clearly hear male grunts coming from underneath the mask, but the killer turns out to be female (although you can sort of chalk that up to the voice changer in Scream movies).

  • @lightdarksoul2097
    @lightdarksoul2097 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually think Tara's dad may turn into a killer later seeing as his story is strange, just leaving and never coming back, kind of like Mrs Loomis actually

  • @StollenBunz
    @StollenBunz ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it’s one of or both of the Meeks twins. They have survived two films and have injuries similar to what Billy and Stu were supposed to give each other.

  • @crankmoeroyal4243
    @crankmoeroyal4243 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the third Ghostface is Sam.
    look at the 2nd kill to clean the tick with the knife. knife in his right hand and with his left the Ghostface cleans the blade. Dan next time with the kill on Ritschi Kirsch. cleaning against the tic with the blade. Then the small closing scene that shows the Ghostface with the tick again.

  • @danwarner7816
    @danwarner7816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for once and for all stu is not third killer everyone. Its too late into the story, unless he ends up like lois griffin from family guy. who suffered some kind of amnesia after tele dropped on his head. He would've been involved in earlier entries if he survived the first movie. i hope scream 6 is called scream: the final cut. taking jabs at extended cuts or extended films that should been in theaters but wasn't :)

  • @charleykeating
    @charleykeating 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope it’s not Stu ! I also hope it’s not some dumb made up theory about some random character with a back story that ties in somehow but is just dumb when you think about the logistics (I.e. Roman) . Cause if 6 is the final to this new trilogy they may head into this direction. Like Roman’s credit was “this is all because of you” - Sidney. I just hope it doesn’t end up like that again . Honestly the thing that would be kinda predictable & dumb but I’d actually kind of love, especially if this is the last one… is if Gail ends up being a killer, now I know that seems dumb. But like what if she’s not actually “the killer” but this time the twist is “Gail orchestrated other individuals to go after Sydney” as revenge for losing Dewey & so many close to her throughout the years & also now because she doesn’t have Dewey or maybe even a career & she’s getting older so she figured to create news so she could go out on top as a journalist before her career is over 🤷‍♂️ just throwing ideas out there . Also it would kinda be great to finally have a scene where Syd & Gail FINALLY actually fight each other in the final moments of the film .

  • @fuzziesloth1617
    @fuzziesloth1617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes sense in a few aspects of Dewey's death and the attack of Tara and what if the video of amber wasn't recorded before hand but in the moment making amber and Richie accounted for meaning a third was needed
    Plus who motivated them into making new ghostface kill with a revenge as a base theme again
    Mean this lot has a mastermind

  • @Cripj-mf7ld
    @Cripj-mf7ld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scream 2 was supposed to have stu being the master mind behind the winser killings while in jail but was changed and so far in 4 and 5 there have been story lines that were cut from other films and added into those 2 in particular so the idea of stu isn't that hard to believe based on passed film inclusions.... but before I left the theater I figured a 3rd like had to be in there in the final act there was timing issues that suggested it

    • @josephfaircloth6950
      @josephfaircloth6950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scream 3*

    • @Cripj-mf7ld
      @Cripj-mf7ld 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephfaircloth6950 I remember reading that haily and micky were supposed to be the main killers with Mrs Loomis and stu controlling things but I could be wrong 2 and 3 both got changed a ton i guess 4 did as well so I might have gotten the movie wrong

    • @josephfaircloth6950
      @josephfaircloth6950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cripj-mf7ld you could right. However, I had always heard the stu leading a cult theory which was correlated with Scream 3

    • @Cripj-mf7ld
      @Cripj-mf7ld 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephfaircloth6950 ether way wes has said he believed stu to survive....I have another theory about it that I'm working on i just have to watch all the movies again and look for the specific thing and if I find it in all of them then it's defiantly a way to connect all the killers in way that only make sense if there was 3 killers in 2 and up

  • @esm82ify
    @esm82ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do I think there was a third killer? Sure...it is SCREAM and all bets are off. Do I think it could be Stu? We didnt actually see him die. If the majority of the TV's weight was on his chest, he could have survived with some some bruises, lacs, and burns. Maybe he's been in a coma at a hospital for the criminally insane.
    However, I have heard over an over again that the height of the killers in the SCREAM franchise is inconsequential because the actors rarely wear the consume unless they are doing their big end reveal. So I never pay attention to that.