You did it again Kenny, simple yet very effective way of enhancing the drums. In the past I've used some specific VST's to do this with less control. You're showing us how to cook the sauce, instead of buying already made. Thanks
I have to take a moment to just thank you 1,000 times! Seriously, you have completely helped bring my music to life in the ways I have always dreamed of. Your tutorials are straight forward and definitely helps us get our money's worth of owning the Reaper DAW. At the end of the day, words can't show my appreciation enough!
Maybe individual send levels' adjustments would have made more balanced compressoring. Now the Room track seems to carry the "better" sound, because it gets compressored and louder, bringing up room space in volume.
Yeah was thinking about this too - the A/B is not of much use here. Is anyone aware of some loudness measuring plugins to match busses' perceived volume automagically?
Great way to enhance drums! Edit: Just tested this on a few tracks of mine made with Superior Drummer, it really makes the drums stands out with a vibrant and more natural sound. Just in a matter of a few minutes. Awesome!
Kenny, you absolutely crushed it in this video!🥁👌Good to hear from you and thanks for the Friday tip. What did you think of the A-Strings? Also a longtime user of Toontrack and going to watch Rikk's video next. Excited for new features in EZ Drummer and will absolutely be experimenting and applying it to REAPER's Drum Crush Buss later this week. So much good stuff right now for us home studio nerds!! I have done more in these last 2 years than ever before in my 57 years obsessed with home recording.
I surely like that technique! One of the reasons for me to use it is to bring some extra room sound into the entire mix. It's like you're hearing a crushing drums right beside you. It totally brings more energy to the mix. This "two plugins technique" is excellent!
This is similar to Greg Scott crushing the hell out of the drums in parralell. And Made on Tape does it with 7 tape bounces crushes it and then blends the two. I've learned this from my 3 favorite channels...in different ways! The end sounds very 80's slick club hit.
Excellent again Kenny. I often create a mix and think my drums sound ‘good’ but with something missing. This seems like a pretty simple solution. Thanks.
Awesome....I just learned something....I'm gonna use it....and I'll see you next time...thanks Kenny! P.S. Excellent tune BTW! Mia and Vincent dropping in to lay down a few steps at the end was also a nice touch!!
Excellent idea Kenny ... I am using only a compressor ... the limited did the huge difference ... also I heard reverb in the parallel compression bus ... yes the compression tends to bring up the lower levels so it made it more intense ... in my setup I use the reverb separately from the parallel compression ...
Thanks Kenny… I love this!! I was just setting up a side chain for my drums and trying to decide which compressor / limiter to use . Your timing is uncanny.
Thought I’d have a go at the ‘Kenny method’ here described, and can confirm it’s yet another immensely valuable resource to include in my arsenal of tweaks!
Perfect timing and solid technique. I was just trying to find a way to lift a busy EZ Drummer part. Now it's crisp and has punch. Where would we be without you?!
Bringing up the crush alone raises the global volume. Ear candy. Other than manually, how could we reduce drums at the same time to get a mix knob wet/dry effect?
Another thing you can do is change each individual drum sound's amount it's getting from the bus. I thought the snare had too much reverb sound from the compression (just me) so I would've gone to the routing of the bus & slightly lowered the snare. Just another option. This is really nice!
great video explaining drum crush buss! but what about the normal drum bus ? i saw multiple videos using a drum bus and drum crush buss. what should be added to drum bus? a glue compressor, a bus compressor/ eq ? thanks
Another good one Kenny, but sometimes when I do this, I get Phase shifts, where is that coming from? Now with the phase rotator plugin you can adjust this and every time it's about 80° out of phase. How can I prevent that? Many thanks.
Hi Kenny, I have a question: when I work on a project in reaper and assign right channel and left channel to different instruments, everything goes fine and when I listen to it from reaper itself, everything sounds fine. However, when I render it, inexplicably, the audio of the channels is inverted: the sound of the right channel is heard in the left channel and vice versa. Why is that? Thank you very much for your always wise advice, Kenny.
The trick with the limiter totally confused me 🤔 No doubt at all the outcome was awesome, but I just don't get how squashing/clipping the drums, post-compression, achieved the effect.
@@bsmith8166 If you have a subscription with Epidemic Sound, you get the option of downloading 4 stems. Drums (which I didn't use), Bass, Instruments, (I added the piano) and Vocals.
Great feat for that song. May not work with all genres, but impressive. But, Kenny, tell me...this seems to be the classic NY style parallel compressing for drums. Or am I wrong?
Will reaper ever fix the way they do side chain and bussing. Has it improved over the years. Last time I tried reaper side chaining etc was very annoying for me compared to other daws.
The drums definitely hit much harder and are bigger with the crush buss mixed in. In a modern-style song this technique would make all kinds of sense. For me, though, with the style of the song (i.e. harkening back to the style of the 50s), I actually feel like the sound without the crush buss sounds more appropriate. But that's just my style choice, not my way of saying they sound better without the crush. I guess what I am saying is that to me the drums ended up sounding too powerful for the song but I love the technique, regardless.
I agree, the enhanced drums via the buss for this song are not fitting however, perhaps if you read the title, it would be clear what Kenny is trying to convey. "New & Improved Drum Crush Buss for This Song in REAPER" is NOT the title.
Crushed dynamics often makes a mess of the hi hat as I think is happening here. It’s doing great things to the rest of the kit but it’s tough to pull a loud hat out of the mics enough to avoid this.
True - you could always not route the hi hat to the crush bus, or turn down its send to the crush bus to avoid that washyness. It can make the cymbals do odd things too.
You did it again Kenny, simple yet very effective way of enhancing the drums. In the past I've used some specific VST's to do this with less control. You're showing us how to cook the sauce, instead of buying already made. Thanks
I have to take a moment to just thank you 1,000 times! Seriously, you have completely helped bring my music to life in the ways I have always dreamed of. Your tutorials are straight forward and definitely helps us get our money's worth of owning the Reaper DAW. At the end of the day, words can't show my appreciation enough!
I love this! You can shape the sound of the Crush Buss even further by adjusting the send levels kick, snare, etc. 🤘
This is so great. Who needs paid plug-ins you are basically renting because of their fancy graphics?
Reaper pretty much does it all.
Thank you, Kenny.
Holy cow that brings so much life to the mix.
Maybe individual send levels' adjustments would have made more balanced compressoring.
Now the Room track seems to carry the "better" sound, because it gets compressored and louder, bringing up room space in volume.
Yeah was thinking about this too - the A/B is not of much use here.
Is anyone aware of some loudness measuring plugins to match busses' perceived volume automagically?
@@MonkeyBars1 if you can't hear the difference in this case, even without compensating for loudness, spend more time training your ears.
Great way to enhance drums!
Edit: Just tested this on a few tracks of mine made with Superior Drummer, it really makes the drums stands out with a vibrant and more natural sound. Just in a matter of a few minutes. Awesome!
Kenny, you absolutely crushed it in this video!🥁👌Good to hear from you and thanks for the Friday tip. What did you think of the A-Strings? Also a longtime user of Toontrack and going to watch Rikk's video next. Excited for new features in EZ Drummer and will absolutely be experimenting and applying it to REAPER's Drum Crush Buss later this week. So much good stuff right now for us home studio nerds!! I have done more in these last 2 years than ever before in my 57 years obsessed with home recording.
Thanks Kenny
Magic! Working on a track right now and this will really help
Great crush and great song!
A lot better. I'm gonna try it on rhythm guitars too.
thanks for the tips my friend
I surely like that technique! One of the reasons for me to use it is to bring some extra room sound into the entire mix. It's like you're hearing a crushing drums right beside you. It totally brings more energy to the mix. This "two plugins technique" is excellent!
That is a a really stomping track even before you did your magic!
This is similar to Greg Scott crushing the hell out of the drums in parralell.
And Made on Tape does it with 7 tape bounces crushes it and then blends the two.
I've learned this from my 3 favorite channels...in different ways!
The end sounds very 80's slick club hit.
I always get something new and better to learn from this channel ❣
Excellent again Kenny. I often create a mix and think my drums sound ‘good’ but with something missing. This seems like a pretty simple solution. Thanks.
Awesome....I just learned something....I'm gonna use it....and I'll see you next time...thanks Kenny! P.S. Excellent tune BTW! Mia and Vincent dropping in to lay down a few steps at the end was also a nice touch!!
There's the weight all the sudden! Heavy. Thanks Kenny 💪
Excellent idea Kenny ... I am using only a compressor ... the limited did the huge difference ... also I heard reverb in the parallel compression bus ... yes the compression tends to bring up the lower levels so it made it more intense ... in my setup I use the reverb separately from the parallel compression ...
Thanks Kenny… I love this!! I was just setting up a side chain for my drums and trying to decide which compressor / limiter to use . Your timing is uncanny.
Great tutorial. I'll be using this. Thanks Kenny.
Great sounding song 🎵🥇👍
Came back to watch this again. Very useful
I usually despise this kind of music but I thought this song was wonderful and I have no idea why. -GREAT JOB👍
Amazing! Thank You! Cockos, I hope you're taking care of this man.
Thanks Kenny as always more great stuff you have taught me. I hope you are and your family are well and be safe
Nice of you to say. :)
@@REAPERMania Crazy times we are living in.
Thought I’d have a go at the ‘Kenny method’ here described, and can confirm it’s yet another immensely valuable resource to include in my arsenal of tweaks!
I finally understand what you mean by pumping. Hourray!
Thanks - a good technique to know about. Real nice tune too!
thanks Kenny .... 😉🎼
Been doing this for a while, really brings out the shells!!!
Perfect timing and solid technique. I was just trying to find a way to lift a busy EZ Drummer part. Now it's crisp and has punch. Where would we be without you?!
Awesome! I like to also flatten the part of the sound just below the compression threshold to get some upwards action too! :)
Bringing up the crush alone raises the global volume. Ear candy. Other than manually, how could we reduce drums at the same time to get a mix knob wet/dry effect?
Another thing you can do is change each individual drum sound's amount it's getting from the bus. I thought the snare had too much reverb sound from the compression (just me) so I would've gone to the routing of the bus & slightly lowered the snare. Just another option. This is really nice!
great video explaining drum crush buss! but what about the normal drum bus ? i saw multiple videos using a drum bus and drum crush buss. what should be added to drum bus? a glue compressor, a bus compressor/ eq ? thanks
Great mixing trick, only with Reaper stock plugins !
Something tells me Kenny has a crush buss for life. Constantly crushing it. Thanks again!
Mix sounds great, what drum software did you use?
Muchas gracias!!!
Huge tool tip!!! Thanks Kenny.
Another good one Kenny, but sometimes when I do this, I get Phase shifts, where is that coming from? Now with the phase rotator plugin you can adjust this and every time it's about 80° out of phase. How can I prevent that? Many thanks.
Hi Kenny, I have a question: when I work on a project in reaper and assign right channel and left channel to different instruments, everything goes fine and when I listen to it from reaper itself, everything sounds fine. However, when I render it, inexplicably, the audio of the channels is inverted: the sound of the right channel is heard in the left channel and vice versa. Why is that? Thank you very much for your always wise advice, Kenny.
Curious, do you do anything to tame the lows with maybe an MBC and or HPF to tame the detector being driven more by the kik?
Good Stuff!! Thanks
The trick with the limiter totally confused me 🤔
No doubt at all the outcome was awesome, but I just don't get how squashing/clipping the drums, post-compression, achieved the effect.
Great sound and song! Who's the artist?
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@@REAPERMania How did you get the individual tracks?
@@bsmith8166 If you have a subscription with Epidemic Sound, you get the option of downloading 4 stems. Drums (which I didn't use), Bass, Instruments, (I added the piano) and Vocals.
@@REAPERMania the original drums are off sonicly, just like in one other song you used
Superb!!
Great feat for that song. May not work with all genres, but impressive. But, Kenny, tell me...this seems to be the classic NY style parallel compressing for drums. Or am I wrong?
Isn't it a kind of straight up parallel compressing?
Yes
@@REAPERMania That compressor works really good. Great use
Would there be a need for another drum buss as well or no?
Up to you
amazing
Will reaper ever fix the way they do side chain and bussing. Has it improved over the years. Last time I tried reaper side chaining etc was very annoying for me compared to other daws.
Hi Kenny
What drums software did you use pls
The free Steven Slate one.
Thank you Kenny
Great...👍
Dude!!!!! That’s so killler !!!!
Love your videos.
Sounds great. Automating this for choruses would be awesome. Full up through verses could feel a little overbearing.
It reminds me a bit "stand by me" :-)
I know this is supposed to be about the drums, but what I'd really like to know is how you got that bass sound.
;-)
I had nothing to do with the bass sound.
by downloading 🙂
@@REAPERMania
Understood. Although, maybe you have some suggestions as to how such a sound could be recorded and processed.
;-)
Haha love the Pulp Fiction inset
I can hear the compression on my cell phone speaker
I could tell that something was missing and it sounded kind of dull. And then came the crush!
thankyou !!!
Maybe automate its volume so it will hit harder on the refrain to give it an accent?
Stand By Me
The drums definitely hit much harder and are bigger with the crush buss mixed in. In a modern-style song this technique would make all kinds of sense. For me, though, with the style of the song (i.e. harkening back to the style of the 50s), I actually feel like the sound without the crush buss sounds more appropriate. But that's just my style choice, not my way of saying they sound better without the crush. I guess what I am saying is that to me the drums ended up sounding too powerful for the song but I love the technique, regardless.
Agreed. But it's a more modern approach to older music.
@@REAPERMania 'modern' in that EVERY non professional drummer tries to drown out the musicians. I agree with md4man.
I agree, the enhanced drums via the buss for this song are not fitting however, perhaps if you read the title, it would be clear what Kenny is trying to convey. "New & Improved Drum Crush Buss for This Song in REAPER" is NOT the title.
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When the night...
Stand by me!!!
damn , i'm late 🙃
@@REAPERMania Hahaha...very!
@@gecbucca4205 ;-)
Crushed dynamics often makes a mess of the hi hat as I think is happening here. It’s doing great things to the rest of the kit but it’s tough to pull a loud hat out of the mics enough to avoid this.
True - you could always not route the hi hat to the crush bus, or turn down its send to the crush bus to avoid that washyness. It can make the cymbals do odd things too.
No views, first to Kenny,baby 🐥
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I think Vince Vega and Mia like it too🤣😆
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