Good video about the oil kings, very interesting that about not getting a consistent lube job, I was interested in them for that reason for my first keyboard. One thing I will say though, during your A/B tests, because you hold the single switch differently for some switches it completely throws off what the switches actually sound like. For example, the Creams you held with your fingers instead of in your hand like you did the other switches and it completely changed how they would sound. I'd suggest doing those single switch tests all on the desk to get a consistent sound profile for each switch.
Hey great video! The editing is really nice. One thing though for some constructive criticism your audio seems to be off-sync with the video at some points in the video when you are talking and it looks kind of weird. This might be because your audio records at a different framerate than your video if you don't use the audio from your camera. Or you are just doing voiceover for the video. Anyways great video I enjoyed it very much!
Thanks so much!! I have other people mentioning the same issue; I’m not sure what’s going on but it might be I need to work on my j cuts more, haha! I wonder if it might have something to do with my rendering setting because my audio is recording in 48, but I am rendering in I believe 32 bit AAC because when I rendered in 24 I was getting weird clicks and artifacts. I’ll dig deeper into my settings to see what’s going on! Thanks so much again for the feedback! :D
Thanks for the feedback! I’ll continue including a comparison moving forward :) also I noticed on a second watch-through that JWICKs in particular sounded a little rattly, kind of like the creams before I held the bottom housing for the sound test. Moving forward I’m going to hold the bottom housing on each switch for better consistency!
I bought a 90 pack of mystery switches on Novelkeys for $15 and got Oil Kings. Feels like I hit the jackpot as I have just started to get into this hobby, and have only really use Akko matcha greens and kailh box blacks. I also used cherry mx blues and will soon have box jades. Can’t wait to try these and my jaded or my matchas in the zoom 75 I’m getting delivered in august.
Uhhhhh is it just me or do these sound... not great? Like theramingoat said, the return from bottom out sound is super lackluster, and the ink v2s are still considerably deeper. I was under the impression that these were meant to emulate the sound signature of the black inks to an extent
6:30 WTF how do your oil kings sound so bad? So high pitched, sharp, bright and clicky... like unlubed mx black on aluminium without foam or tape... I'm using oil kings in my Odin R3 with alu plate right now and they're much more muted and deeper in sound! And yes, my batch of switches was very consistently lubed (got them a few weeks ago)... maybe they've adjusted/improved their lubing process in the factory last year?
Just ordered 130 of them. Why? Is it because they're quiet? Or decently quiet? Or is it because they're 55 grams? Which should be or should not be enough for me? Nope. I've ordered them because they're black lmao. The only reason. How silly of me xD
Bought a test board with 35 different Gateron switches. Oil king sounds and feels the best out of all of them stock. Super smooth, great weighting, deep marbly sound. Didn't open them up, but by ear I didn't noticed much lubing inconsistency. I use them stock for my Keychron Q2 Pro, occasionally switching between them and slightly lubed Box Black Inks. Two of my favorites!
Subbed, and i dont know the out of sync problems everyone talks about. For me its good, the only problem i had were frame rate issues with the camera recordings and maybe the mic being too sensitive because i can hear your breathing over the switch sounds 😅 very good video production tho
Thank you. So do the oil kings feel smoother than black in when typing? I want smooth, quiet and ideally very little bottom out. I currently like silent alpacas and silent blacks but I only have testers of those .
Thank you so much! I’m not sure why the audio is not synced because it seems fine for some but not others… going to try making videos in Mac to see if that fixes things!
i am lubing mine right now and i also am noticing some that have soooo much lube in them. for a switch that is aimed at the higher end community, i wish it was just unlubed.
I just bought some Oil Kings and the lube from the factory was super thick. So thick, some keys actually made a squishing sound when I pressed them. I ended up bag lubing all the stems and springs now they sound and feel amazing. I didn't remove the lube on the bottom housing rails, just bag lubing the stems seemed to fix it.
great review ! I have just one issue, does the keycap hit the bottom when pressing on your 1 switch tester ? I felt like I heard it tick every time you pressed and it took away from the switches. Otherwise this was a great video, thank you :)
Thanks for the feedback! I feel like the integrated plate on the switch tester is a little loose, so it does make a rattling sound. Moving forward I’m going to make sure I hold the bottom of each switch like I did on the creams!
Thanks for the feedback! The problem is my desk is super crappy and light and I get a pretty bad boom/thud… LOL I didn’t want to EQ it out because that could change the switch sound, but definitely need to figure out a solution!
Very good, informative and honestly just helpfup all around. Personally my favorite Gateron switch is still the China Joy varient after testing these and the black inks
Awesome review! 🙏 Would you say that the Oil Kings are lighter or softer than Ink Blacks? I have and love Ink Blacks, but I'm looking to see if there is a switch that is as similar to Ink Blacks in terms of smoothness and overall feel, but with a little less pressure on the hands for longer typing sessions.
if possible, I'd recommend spring swapping the inks rather than buying a whole new switch! It'd be quite a bit cheaper, but you would have to open up the switches to spring swap :D
I'd say there is very little difference among switches with led cutouts unless you're dealing with a totally transparent switch top like aqua kings or something of that nature, especially if you're using non-shine through or crystal keycaps!
Unless you planning to mod your switches and like RGB then Tangerines would be better. Otherwise Oil King if you want a switch that is smooth in stock and you also don't plan to use RGB because Oil King is RGB killer due to it housing design and color lol.
Sorry for the late reply! I’m working on a review of the FLCMMK ice mint linears and I’d recommend those over the oil kings, especially considering they’re the same price per switch. Full review should be up by Monday!
When you did the sound test on the single switches, the placement of the switch on your palm might have made a lot more difference than the switches themselves. One had a very open sound when you hold them up with two fingers and the other had a very thoccy sound when it lays flat on your palm
Very interesting!! I’ve since decided in my most recent video that it’s probably better to do the single switch sound tests on the keyboard for a better idea of what it’ll sound like in an actual build!
Glad to see a switch that isn’t long pole nowadays, long pole is just uncomfortable to type on and i feel like any switch with a description that fits my preference also is sadly long pole
This video is extremely well mad and is very informative. Well done on this one. I was looking at black inks earlier (with no intentions of ever buying them as jwk is just as good if not better then the black inks) and happened to stumble on this video. I may consider copping these instead!
I’m glad I could help! I have been thinking about the value proposition of these switches since I posted my review and I think although the sound may not come through perfectly, these are a little deeper than JWK’s. Both are great switches though and I haven’t tried the full opaque JWICKs to see if that would lead to a deeper sound signature as well. Thanks so much for the kind words! :D
Good video about the oil kings, very interesting that about not getting a consistent lube job, I was interested in them for that reason for my first keyboard. One thing I will say though, during your A/B tests, because you hold the single switch differently for some switches it completely throws off what the switches actually sound like. For example, the Creams you held with your fingers instead of in your hand like you did the other switches and it completely changed how they would sound. I'd suggest doing those single switch tests all on the desk to get a consistent sound profile for each switch.
Hey great video! The editing is really nice. One thing though for some constructive criticism your audio seems to be off-sync with the video at some points in the video when you are talking and it looks kind of weird. This might be because your audio records at a different framerate than your video if you don't use the audio from your camera.
Or you are just doing voiceover for the video.
Anyways great video I enjoyed it very much!
Thanks so much!! I have other people mentioning the same issue; I’m not sure what’s going on but it might be I need to work on my j cuts more, haha! I wonder if it might have something to do with my rendering setting because my audio is recording in 48, but I am rendering in I believe 32 bit AAC because when I rendered in 24 I was getting weird clicks and artifacts. I’ll dig deeper into my settings to see what’s going on! Thanks so much again for the feedback! :D
Great video, the only criticism I've got is that the video and audio seems to be off sync.
I’m not sure what’s going on; it seems to be affecting some and not others :/ will keep trying to figure out what’s happening!
I appreciated the linears comparison in the video. Also thanks for commenting on the difference in quality regarding the factory lube job.
Thanks for the feedback! I’ll continue including a comparison moving forward :) also I noticed on a second watch-through that JWICKs in particular sounded a little rattly, kind of like the creams before I held the bottom housing for the sound test. Moving forward I’m going to hold the bottom housing on each switch for better consistency!
I bought a 90 pack of mystery switches on Novelkeys for $15 and got Oil Kings. Feels like I hit the jackpot as I have just started to get into this hobby, and have only really use Akko matcha greens and kailh box blacks. I also used cherry mx blues and will soon have box jades. Can’t wait to try these and my jaded or my matchas in the zoom 75 I’m getting delivered in august.
Uhhhhh is it just me or do these sound... not great? Like theramingoat said, the return from bottom out sound is super lackluster, and the ink v2s are still considerably deeper. I was under the impression that these were meant to emulate the sound signature of the black inks to an extent
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one of my favorite switch to date. especially the fact that you can use it in north facing PCB!
Loved the dark mode friendly moments! So underated
6:30 WTF how do your oil kings sound so bad?
So high pitched, sharp, bright and clicky... like unlubed mx black on aluminium without foam or tape...
I'm using oil kings in my Odin R3 with alu plate right now and they're much more muted and deeper in sound!
And yes, my batch of switches was very consistently lubed (got them a few weeks ago)... maybe they've adjusted/improved their lubing process in the factory last year?
Just ordered 130 of them. Why? Is it because they're quiet? Or decently quiet? Or is it because they're 55 grams? Which should be or should not be enough for me? Nope. I've ordered them because they're black lmao. The only reason. How silly of me xD
Bought a test board with 35 different Gateron switches. Oil king sounds and feels the best out of all of them stock. Super smooth, great weighting, deep marbly sound. Didn't open them up, but by ear I didn't noticed much lubing inconsistency. I use them stock for my Keychron Q2 Pro, occasionally switching between them and slightly lubed Box Black Inks. Two of my favorites!
Subbed, and i dont know the out of sync problems everyone talks about. For me its good, the only problem i had were frame rate issues with the camera recordings and maybe the mic being too sensitive because i can hear your breathing over the switch sounds 😅 very good video production tho
Thank you. So do the oil kings feel smoother than black in when typing? I want smooth, quiet and ideally very little bottom out. I currently like silent alpacas and silent blacks but I only have testers of those .
is there an audio delay? the image didn't sync up
thought i was trippin for a second
Super weird! I watched it again just now on my phone and it didn’t have a synch issue :/ will try to figure out what’s going on!
great video bro, however the audio sync kinda off, keep up the good work bro
Thank you so much! I’m not sure why the audio is not synced because it seems fine for some but not others… going to try making videos in Mac to see if that fixes things!
i am lubing mine right now and i also am noticing some that have soooo much lube in them. for a switch that is aimed at the higher end community, i wish it was just unlubed.
Totally agree!!! They’d be a lot more desirable I think if they had an unlubed option :/
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I just bought some Oil Kings and the lube from the factory was super thick. So thick, some keys actually made a squishing sound when I pressed them. I ended up bag lubing all the stems and springs now they sound and feel amazing. I didn't remove the lube on the bottom housing rails, just bag lubing the stems seemed to fix it.
I really wanna make a poppy keyboard are the oil kings a good choice?
I don't think so, unless you rely heavily on PE and Tape mod. The switch itself sounded deep and muted kinda like Ink Black.
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great review ! I have just one issue, does the keycap hit the bottom when pressing on your 1 switch tester ? I felt like I heard it tick every time you pressed and it took away from the switches. Otherwise this was a great video, thank you :)
Thanks for the feedback! I feel like the integrated plate on the switch tester is a little loose, so it does make a rattling sound. Moving forward I’m going to make sure I hold the bottom of each switch like I did on the creams!
@@MakerMods i would recommend putting the switch tester on your table, preferably on top of your deskmat
Thanks for the feedback! The problem is my desk is super crappy and light and I get a pretty bad boom/thud… LOL I didn’t want to EQ it out because that could change the switch sound, but definitely need to figure out a solution!
what would you prefer, Gateron oil blacks or Akko cs blacks????
I want to buy one of those but I want to know the major differences in quality
Is your mouth and audio not synced up, or is that just me? feels off
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Watching this in bed and I'm so thankful for the dark mode adjustments.
Very good, informative and honestly just helpfup all around. Personally my favorite Gateron switch is still the China Joy varient after testing these and the black inks
Thanks so much! I actually found out about the CJ’s while researching this video and I’m really excited to try them out too!!
Cj's and oil kings are both joys to type on.
What do makes you choose the CJ's over the oil kings?
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Really well made switch videos
Thank you so much!!! Just trying to improve and help the community! :D
Having to put them through the ultrasonic bath first is not worth the effort.
Are epsilons better/deeper?
Have t tried epsilons yet but I’ll be sure to get a review up when they come back in stock!
Thank you for the fantastic editing in the A/B sound test sections.
Great vid. Keep em comin😁
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how's the rgb on it? does it completely block all the lighting?
I think if you want the best result you have to clean and reapply lube and even add film.
Where can I grab a oil king with some discount ?
to my ears, the oil king have the same sound as the jwk
Awesome review! 🙏
Would you say that the Oil Kings are lighter or softer than Ink Blacks? I have and love Ink Blacks, but I'm looking to see if there is a switch that is as similar to Ink Blacks in terms of smoothness and overall feel, but with a little less pressure on the hands for longer typing sessions.
if possible, I'd recommend spring swapping the inks rather than buying a whole new switch! It'd be quite a bit cheaper, but you would have to open up the switches to spring swap :D
Audio levels are way high on the switch testing, I liked the comparison, but it was painfully loud compared to the rest of the video
Sorry! I may have boosted the levels too much.
Im planning to buy these switches, does the opaque housing not allow lights towards the keycaps? Or is it a non-issue?
I'd say there is very little difference among switches with led cutouts unless you're dealing with a totally transparent switch top like aqua kings or something of that nature, especially if you're using non-shine through or crystal keycaps!
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Over-lubed, that's why they call'em Oil Kings :D
Oily kings! :P
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Should I get c3 tangerines or Oil king? Please help me anyone
Unless you planning to mod your switches and like RGB then Tangerines would be better.
Otherwise Oil King if you want a switch that is smooth in stock and you also don't plan to use RGB because Oil King is RGB killer due to it housing design and color lol.
Sorry for the late reply! I’m working on a review of the FLCMMK ice mint linears and I’d recommend those over the oil kings, especially considering they’re the same price per switch. Full review should be up by Monday!
I appreciate the comparison with the frankenswitch - great video start to finish.
Thanks so much for the kind words!!!
Do an ice cream comparison for every switch review from now on please 😂
In all seriousness, one of the most comprehensive switch reviews imo and really appreciate the A/B sound tests
Puahaha! Thanks so much!
I loved the SSST and that they were all timestamped and labeled!
Thanks so much for the feedback!!
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When you did the sound test on the single switches, the placement of the switch on your palm might have made a lot more difference than the switches themselves. One had a very open sound when you hold them up with two fingers and the other had a very thoccy sound when it lays flat on your palm
Very interesting!! I’ve since decided in my most recent video that it’s probably better to do the single switch sound tests on the keyboard for a better idea of what it’ll sound like in an actual build!
Great review. Appreciate it!
I appreciate you!!! Thanks so much for the support!
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Glad to see a switch that isn’t long pole nowadays, long pole is just uncomfortable to type on and i feel like any switch with a description that fits my preference also is sadly long pole
I laughed when you went through all the different switches back to back on your tester!
Your videos are so well produced and informative! Looking forward to all your future content!
This video is extremely well mad and is very informative. Well done on this one. I was looking at black inks earlier (with no intentions of ever buying them as jwk is just as good if not better then the black inks) and happened to stumble on this video. I may consider copping these instead!
I’m glad I could help! I have been thinking about the value proposition of these switches since I posted my review and I think although the sound may not come through perfectly, these are a little deeper than JWK’s. Both are great switches though and I haven’t tried the full opaque JWICKs to see if that would lead to a deeper sound signature as well. Thanks so much for the kind words! :D
If I put these switches on a board with rgb lighting, will I be able to see the lights?
Pretty much all switches will allow light to be visible between keycaps, but it will be pretty dim unless you are using pudding/crystal keycaps!