Motorguide Xi3 kayak trolling motor with pinpoint GPS (spot lock) STERN MOUNTED!? Install and Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- I researched a long time to try and find someone who had attempted to put a GPS trolling motor in the stern or back of a kayak and didn't find much. The few that said they did, voiced concern over the overcompensation that may occur as the motor attempts to pull the boat in reverse while it anchor locks or "spot locks". One of the main reasons I wanted in the back of the kayak when anchoring is so that my line will scope out in front me. Its much more difficult to get good hooksets when your forced to fish off to the side of your kayak as your line scopes out behind the boat.
I ended up installing both a bow mount and stern mount using the quick release bracket screwed into 1" cutting board and then affixed that to my Hobie Compass 2021 using the power pole mount for the stern (rear). I also upgraded the rudder on the kayak to an aluminum one.
If you are curious about the bow mount for this kayak, see this video: • Motorguide Xi3 kayak t...
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Here's a link to the playlist with all the mod videos I've done to this kayak previously: • Hobie Compass 2021 Kay...
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Great video thank you so much. I have a Hobie Compass as well. I’m looking into the xi3 for a stern mount as well.
Hey Peter.
Nice. But I see it getting moved to the front in the future. You fish too much current to steer from the rear, in particular..... spot lock. You'll be facing with your back into the current. Which isn't necessarily a bad way to fish. People drop out of the back of boats all the time. It's just different than how you have fished up until now. Floating a bobber out the back (which would be off your bow) is fun. Watching that float go down is exciting.
Look forward to seeing how it plays out.
Francus, I do like it in the front as well. I actually already have the bow mount working and I switch it back and forth depending on the type of fishing planned. For anchoring in current with little wind, this actually works well with it in the back as the gps doesn't adjust too much since there's a steady direction. If I have a windier day with less current i think the front is better. But yeah still need to put it across some more environments and situations to really see how it does. Again, I don't think I will bring it with me like this every time I go out, the small motor on the side is still great for longer distance treks and like you mentioned I typically fish while drifting slowly anyways so its not completely necessary.
That is some serious machinery, congrats Peter!
Thanks Bob def was a little nervous taking such an expensive and heavy piece of equipment out there on a little plastic boat lol but it seems fine so far!
@@PeterRanieriII You'll probably be able to fish more days in a row, its a good investment
Nice! They are not cheap. You are gonna love that black fishing.
not cheap is right. this really all started from that opening day last year in the area you fish with the strong current. you made a comment that I should get a spot lock and I couldn't shake the idea of black fishing that area with it, haha cant wait
I saw that installed on your other video, it’s obvious you gonna post this tutorial. Love it
haha thanks love that you noticed it. The bow mount was much harder to do - will post that one too
Finally and they told me you can't do it💯👏👏👏 😎
thanks 👍 I actually prefer it in the stern vs the bow so far...
i love the xi3. mine is mounted on my bow, and i run my pp-768 j2 bixpy on my stern. It's gonna take up your tankwell. And your spotlock is going to just spin your bow around. And they're made to pull not push, which you may burn your motor out. you'll have to see how it works out.
Thank you for sharing this anthony, thats a very nice duo setup with both a stern and bow motor simultaneous. So far its working out fine for me, as it pulls from the back and doesnt attempt to push from the back. We'll see though as I use it more if there are scenarios that I encounter when it does what your saying
"Ever tried to push a chain?" Word from Stan Sloan when asked about his mounting an electric motor on the bow of his bass boat in a BASS tournament, the very first member to do so. All crafts respond to oncoming force (wind, current) when their power source PULLS them along, allowing the rudder in the stern to steer the craft like the way a forklift would. A craft will be more efficient when going from spot A to Spot B being propelled from the stern, using a power source that turns the hull to achieve steering (a turning motor). A side-mount has to constantly correct the centerline of the craft, because it is pushing thrust with a side-force, causing the craft to naturally want to go in a circle. I've been boating for 50 years, I've seen everything from nuclear reactor-driven gearboxes spinning giant propellers, to cordless drills with a super-long rod and small prop chucked in them for propulsion sources. Remember all this. Hydrodynamics and propulsion. You cant beat a fishing vessel with a bow-mount motor and a good, stationary rotor to let the bow motor steer efficiently, for a vessel where the person is standing and fishing, especially with a breeze or wind. You cant sit and fish with a headwind, you'll be constantly correcting your bow, with a stern-mounted motor. They are better for going from point A to point B, .
Everything your saying is correct. I've noticed having the motor in the bow definitely allows for a smoother ride, especially with headwinds. Having it in the stern though for specific types of fishing and environmental conditions I think is better. For freshwater bass anglers the bow makes sense as you want efficient control while your casting the shorelines in relatively calm water. For me though I wanted this motor to essentially do what a conventional anchor does in saltwater, except without swinging when the tide changes because Im trying to fish a specific rock in 70' of water with a ripping current.
Hold the remote upside down to correct the arrows for the correct orientation. But, faster/slower iss now reversed...
Same goes for the jog feature when in gps hold. That way, you're facing away from the xi3 and the jog buttons align to your 5' movements. Only issue if your in wind or current, the gps mode will keep your stern into the current/wind.
For guys that have a 360 seat and a bow mount, this works the same. Really nice in a Nucanoe with the 360 seat.
lol yea the backward remote messes with your head but only at first, honestly it was easy to adjust after a few times. your right, I really have to see how it performs in different wind/tide conditions but so far all the times I tried it when those are relatively constant and steady, it does just fine holding me stable without going back and forth. Thats a great point about the 360 seat, that would be ideal!
Peter you are ready good job
thanks Mario, yes I was ready but not the blackfish that day, hahaha
dude Peter, awesome work and holy shit thats BOOKOO money well spent... I'm not sure nor remember if i sent you a picture of my trolling motor on my 132 Old Town but man it helps out big time congrats brother
mauricio, how goes it my friend?! hah yea def dont have the bookoo money anymore after this purchase - I do remember watching a video as well of your setup, its a very nice thing to have thats for sure, cant wait to test it out more this season
do you have pic or video of mounting on the stern on the old Town? i got a sportsman 120 pdl and i want to mount it on the stern where there 4 screw holes are.
@@huanc7996 I believe Newport makes one for the 120. Newport trolling Transom motor mount...
@@huanc7996 One Objective makes the bow mount that i have for my 132 OT, might make one for stern as well for your 120
@@kb7771 they do but need to take out the rudder
Looks like a great addition to the yak. If you hold the remote upside down the steering will be correct.
haha very true - thanks!
You are going to love it for black fish enjoy
cant wait! thanks
Amazing upgrade 🤩🔥👍
Thanks 😁 fishing maniac - im stoked to put it to use this season!
that is awesome, im thinking of mounting on the stern. dont want to put all the weights on the bow.
yeah its def better weight balance with it in the stern, just gotta have the battery close to the middle or slightly forward. I'm serious when I say I so far prefer it in the stern mount than the bow
@@PeterRanieriII I’m small and I’m sitting toward the front already and if I add the motor on bow. the bow will dip and it’s not good when there is waves. Which motor do you recommend?
@@huanc7996 not only will it dip in waves but having it in the front also means it’s a little more in the way of when your fishing. It all depends on what your style of fishing is and your budget. If you really think you’ll use anchor lock for your type of fishing this is a great motor
@@PeterRanieriII thanks a lot, i fish in the bay mostly, need spot lock to stay in place and occasionally use it to get back when I’m tired. Sometimes the current is strong plus wind is a pain to peddle back.
Interesting but looks to be quite a bit heavier than my Bixpy. But probably a little faster. BTW I’ve been using ½” cutting boards for most of my projects. Inexpensive and seems to be rigid enough for brackets, etc. It took me awhile to find the Hobie Compass mount for the power pole to mount my Bixpy.
Man I love cutting boards as working surfaces, that def my go to for this kind of stuff now as well. yeah its a heavy motor thats for sure, you might get better top speed with bixpy, i think anyways. this whole project was mainly for anchoring in places that are too dangerious to use a conventional anchor in the sound. Yeah thanks agin for telling me about the power pole mount, your right its not easy to find
@@PeterRanieriII On my Outback I’ve exceeded 5mph calm and around 3-3.5 against current. I really haven’t been in severe current with my new FL Compass so I’m seeing the same speeds. I thought it might be a bit faster since the Compass is considerably lighter. I think I sourced the mount from a dealer in Cincinnati, probably 5-6 months after I purchased it. The FL dealer told me they were 6-12 months back ordered when I purchased the yak.
T That looks great to me.I've been trying to find one of them.What is the brand name and how much did they respond
the trolling motor brand is motorguide and it cost me about $1,600 plus tax
I noticed at 21:00 the motor kicked up when running in reverse. So it is possible to leave the motor unlocked? My concern is the motor being able to kick up when hitting an obstruction. There are many oyster bars where I fish. If I mount a motor on the bow or in a slot in front of the seat it can’t flip up and will be damaged.
thats a good question. I guess in theory if you only had the motor running in the forward position it could be unlocked and still work...I dont think i would recommend that though but yeah I think it could work. best practice is just stowe the motor in shallow water, even if it can flip up likely an impact would damage the prop
@@PeterRanieriII That begs the question: what is the problem with leaving it unlocked? Greatly appreciate your feedback
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Hey hows the xi3 on the back of the kayak I never seen anyone do that? Is the spot lock good or did you end up moving it to the front?
I have the mount on the front and back and have tested it out on both, it works just fine for both placements. My initial thoughts are that if you have the right conditions the back spot lock works fine. I think where it may struggle is if there just isn't enough wind or current to engage it in a steady direction. But to me, if those are the conditions, I would pull the motor up and pedal myself to stay in place
Cool
ciao! pesa 30 kg o libre?
ciao, sì, pesa 30 libbre (13,5 kg) compreso il supporto.
Wa Wa Wee Wa Very nice 👍🏽
That's a lot of weight for a Compass.
it is. not gunna lie, the back sits a little low with the battery behind me, may consider moving it forward but for now its working out...
@@PeterRanieriII Is the motor really 43 pounds like it says on Amazon? Plus the battery?
@@cn65666 I weighed the motor with the quick release mount attached and it was just under 30lbs. Then you have to add the battery weight which can vary.
Its no longer a Hobie Compass, its a Rainieri™️ Compass
hah thanks brudda. going straight to the patent office with this, lol