I was going to get the PA-12' love that boat and the blue and new orange camo is my Fav. But I also loved the AP-120, with spot lock. I had already purchased my new PP-767 J2 Bixpy. So I run the Bixpy, and then my Minnkota when I fish. It's awesome to have that spot lock on a craft you trust. Sweet set-up bro!! 😎 💯 🛶
Good choice! I was afraid of getting stuck up the creek with a paddle, so to speak, if my motor died so went with the peddle drive as a back up. How do you like the Bixpy? - I Agee the spot lock is a game changer.
@@CurrentJAM The Bixpy is awesome, and it's just one power wire. I purchased it because, if my Minnkota dies, or I have any issue connection on either. I'll always have power, to get back home. I've always run a Bixpy, with my fin drive. 😎
Hi, thanks for this video! I have the same PA360 and i'm iteresting of Motorguide. Some curiosities : what was your speed with Motorguide? How many Knots? How aobut battery and capacity? Thanks for answer. luca
Hi Luca I was getting about 4 knots but since my shaft wasn’t in the water enough, it wasn’t a good test for max speed with the unit. I use dual FPV-Power 50Ah Lithium Batteries. They should last me 10+ hours but haven’t had the chance to confirm - it’s off season at the moment so I would need to test this coming spring.
Hi James, not sure it’s on their site yet. It was mentioned in iCast and the dealers also got word of it coming out for 2022, if all goes well. Check this out. th-cam.com/video/1BKSIfuwvJA/w-d-xo.html
Great video, thank you. Curious if you have a center mounted transducer? If so does the bow mount trolling motor cause issues with a center mounted transducer since it will be subject to the transducer to water turbulence?
Great question! I do utilize the center transducer mount that comes with the Hobie PA. I have not noticed any image artifacts or noise due to the water turbulence. Even at top speed. Hope this helps.
Hi Tom, the unit is about 42 lbs and the plate is really light composite (max 50 lbs total) I went out on a calm day so wont know how it will handle in chop. The nose barely moved when I placed the unit on top. It handled it like a dream.
@@CurrentJAM Thanks adding a rear mounted motor and the battery is a 50 ah lithium..weights 25lb…was planning on storing the battery in front hatch…thanks..tight lines
The model in the video is an XI3 that was cut down to size as they didn’t have a saltwater kayak version available at that time. There is a newer kayak version XI3 SALTWATER 55LB 36" WITH PINPOINT GPS. Pinpoint GPS is required to use the anchor feature.
haha I remember this day, was like why the heck is that kayaker out there in the middle of winter doing donuts...did you end up selling this setup? hope all is well my friend. I'm tempted to try and install this in the stern of a kayak...
Have you tested this set up in choppy/windy conditions? I have a pa14 and frequently fish in 1-2 ft chop. I'm very interested in buying one of these but I'm worried that the weight on the bow would make for a very wet ride.
It could be a wet ride in chop even without it, at least from my experience, the bow digs into waves. 1-2 ft chop shouldn’t effect the prop but would really depend on the frequency of the waves. 1-2 ft chop at 12+S np, 1-2ft at 3-5s might be an issue - with the prop getting a lot of air time
do you have any issues with your xi3 and do you still use it today? I'm in the market for one and can't decide between xi3 or one or minn kota gps shortest shaft version. any insight from you would be great.
@@edgars00789 That would be amazing Edgar. The majority of my life, I fished from shore. I could not afford any type of vessel, so I did the next best thing, surf fish. One day, you will be able to pick up the craft you desire, until then, find a substitute. ~best
Have you had any problems with kayak itself? Some people have had problems with the drive and belts for the 360 popping. I just sold my 2020 Outback. Looking to upgrade to a PA14 360 now.
Hi Jimmy, i've encounter noise issues early on, very loud squeaking, each time I peddled. I did a combo of Boeshild T-9 and clutch tightening to address it, although I do have to reapply T-9 after a few trips. I also take on small amounts of water from the rear hatch, it's not enough to cause concern, but I do have to dry it out after each use. Other than that I'm happy with it so far.
@@CurrentJAM I have that same problem but for the life of me I can't figure out where the water gets in. I have to keep a sponge in the front hatch and sponge it out after each trip, not a lot of water, about a coffee cup?
I was determined to try and figure it out where the water was coming in from, so when hosing down the kayak I paid close attention to where water was coming in. If the bucket is inserted in my bow hatch it doesn’t seal correctly. Removing the large white bucket solve that. Water also get in via the rod tubes in the bow, I haven’t solved this yet. I also have water coming in via the hatch in the stern and also via the screws on the rudder square hatch in the stern (I’ve sealed the screws but the round hatch still leaks) Not a lot of water to be concerned, but enough to be curiously annoyed 😠 How that helps.
This is true my friend, but the pedal drive does provide mobility and non electrical propulsion if needed, outside of a hand paddle. These two combined are the best of both worlds. If I had to choose one or the other, it would be dependent if I ever want to fish tournaments that don't allow for a motor. For my current fishing, i would lean towards the Old Town.
Hope you enjoy paddling, because you'd never be able to have your motor deployed in a lot of places I fish or need to cross in order to get to the honey hole. I can simply do "futter kicks" with my fins in skinny water and then return to full kicks when it's deep enough (sometimes for only a few feet at a time) in my Hobie. Having a powerful motor up front that can be deployed when needed and still retail pedal power otherwise is the shit!!
do you have any issues with your xi3 and do you still use it today? I'm in the market for one and can't decide between xi3 or one of minn kota gps shortest shaft version. any insight from you would be great.
I haven’t experienced any issues with the Xi3. I have a minn kota on my boat and the spot lock feature struggles to keep position from my experience. That’s not to say that the kayak version wouldn’t have an easier time with a smaller vessel. Minn Kota is overall ranked better than the Motorguide from the experts so it comes down to budget vs some extra features. www.trollingmotors.net/blogs/selection/86961159-minn-kota-vs-motorguide
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Loved the review but my favorite part was the "nothing in life is perfect." LOL! That was awesome!
haha, Glad you enjoyed it!
I was going to get the PA-12' love that boat and the blue and new orange camo is my Fav. But I also loved the AP-120, with spot lock. I had already purchased my new PP-767 J2 Bixpy. So I run the Bixpy, and then my Minnkota when I fish. It's awesome to have that spot lock on a craft you trust. Sweet set-up bro!! 😎 💯 🛶
Good choice! I was afraid of getting stuck up the creek with a paddle, so to speak, if my motor died so went with the peddle drive as a back up. How do you like the Bixpy? - I Agee the spot lock is a game changer.
@@CurrentJAM The Bixpy is awesome, and it's just one power wire. I purchased it because, if my Minnkota dies, or I have any issue connection on either. I'll always have power, to get back home. I've always run a Bixpy, with my fin drive. 😎
Awesome kayak setup!
Thanks 🙏 I’m in SD for a while, looking to get it out in the water soon.
Hi, thanks for this video! I have the same PA360 and i'm iteresting of Motorguide. Some curiosities : what was your speed with Motorguide? How many Knots? How aobut battery and capacity? Thanks for answer. luca
Hi Luca
I was getting about 4 knots but since my shaft wasn’t in the water enough, it wasn’t a good test for max speed with the unit.
I use dual FPV-Power 50Ah Lithium Batteries. They should last me 10+ hours but haven’t had the chance to confirm - it’s off season at the moment so I would need to test this coming spring.
@@CurrentJAM Many thanks for the answer my friend 🙏 ! Me too I’m waiting spring and we hope in a good season. Take care
@@lorioli57 tight lines Luca! The season is going to be among us soon enough. Cheers!
Curt have you had a chance to test it again yet?
I get about 4-4.6 on a flat day
My dual 50AH lithium batteries last 10+ hours - I dont have a gauge to tell how much juice is left.
You said Motorguide is coming out with a saltwater kayak motor for 2022. Do you have a link for any information on this?
Hi James, not sure it’s on their site yet. It was mentioned in iCast and the dealers also got word of it coming out for 2022, if all goes well.
Check this out.
th-cam.com/video/1BKSIfuwvJA/w-d-xo.html
Waiting on this version myself. Definitely going to paint that damn thing black though haha.
Haha. Share what it looks like when you paint it.
Great video, thank you. Curious if you have a center mounted transducer? If so does the bow mount trolling motor cause issues with a center mounted transducer since it will be subject to the transducer to water turbulence?
Great question! I do utilize the center transducer mount that comes with the Hobie PA. I have not noticed any image artifacts or noise due to the water turbulence. Even at top speed. Hope this helps.
Looks great.what’s was the total weight was added to bow of pro angler (motor + mount) …did the weight effect the performance of kayak? Thanks
Hi Tom, the unit is about 42 lbs and the plate is really light composite (max 50 lbs total)
I went out on a calm day so wont know how it will handle in chop. The nose barely moved when I placed the unit on top. It handled it like a dream.
@@CurrentJAM Thanks adding a rear mounted motor and the battery is a 50 ah lithium..weights 25lb…was planning on storing the battery in front hatch…thanks..tight lines
@@tomterrific2018 that shouldn’t be an issue at all. Cheers!
Hey how did you make the collar to retrieve it? Id love to see more of that.
It’s the Garmin 0101278401 Trolling Motor Shaft Mount, for LVS32
Strong Paracord to pull it, it's a simple set up that works well.
@@CurrentJAM thank you for the quick response :)
what model is your lowrance ?
n does it matter what model you get for the spot lock?>
The model in the video is an XI3 that was cut down to size as they didn’t have a saltwater kayak version available at that time. There is a newer kayak version XI3 SALTWATER 55LB 36" WITH PINPOINT GPS.
Pinpoint GPS is required to use the anchor feature.
OK one year later, how is it? does the extra weight affect the ride ?
By the way my Wife is perfect , so she says
She handles the weight really well. No complaints 🎉
haha I remember this day, was like why the heck is that kayaker out there in the middle of winter doing donuts...did you end up selling this setup? hope all is well my friend. I'm tempted to try and install this in the stern of a kayak...
Haha!! You should do it! The anchor feature is the big seller for me
I wish the remote was like the minn kota.
I have both at the moment. My boat came with an MK. What in particular do you like about the MK remote?
Have you tested this set up in choppy/windy conditions? I have a pa14 and frequently fish in 1-2 ft chop. I'm very interested in buying one of these but I'm worried that the weight on the bow would make for a very wet ride.
It could be a wet ride in chop even without it, at least from my experience, the bow digs into waves.
1-2 ft chop shouldn’t effect the prop but would really depend on the frequency of the waves. 1-2 ft chop at 12+S np, 1-2ft at 3-5s might be an issue - with the prop getting a lot of air time
"Just to remind me that nothing in life is perfect" 🤣🤣🤣
Haha. Have to laugh at mistakes.
You still using the FPV 50ah battery? You find that is enough to last all day? You use separate battery for the electronics?
I use dual 50Ah batteries for the trolling motor, they last all day. I use a 10Ah battery for my fish finder.
do you have any issues with your xi3 and do you still use it today? I'm in the market for one and can't decide between xi3 or one or minn kota gps shortest shaft version. any insight from you would be great.
I answered in your other comment. Let me know which one you choose. Can’t go wrong with either option. They are both great.
How is this holding up? Has the plastic cracked in the bow yet?
So far so good, no cracking or wear visible yet.
Can I use the hobie pro angler kayak in saltwater
Hi Edgar, you sure can. I currently fish saltwater exclusively.
I wish I could win a Hobie kayak pro angler 14 360 but I'm a very poor man
@@edgars00789 That would be amazing Edgar. The majority of my life, I fished from shore. I could not afford any type of vessel, so I did the next best thing, surf fish. One day, you will be able to pick up the craft you desire, until then, find a substitute. ~best
how fast can you go assuming minimal wind?
im an idiot. i just read your comment on 4.6mph
Haha. No worries at all. I will have a more accurate reading this spring.
What shaft clamp is that?
Hi Franklyn
It’s the Garmin 0101278401 Trolling Motor Shaft Mount, for LVS32
How long can you run the trolling Motor on full battery?
I have dual FPV-Power 50Ah batteries connected to the trolling motor and I can use it all day - I have yet to drain it in a full day of fishing.
How do you like the jog feature?
Hi Mehmet, the jog is ok. I tend to just reposition and not utilize the jog feature.
Have you had any problems with kayak itself? Some people have had problems with the drive and belts for the 360 popping. I just sold my 2020 Outback. Looking to upgrade to a PA14 360 now.
Hi Jimmy, i've encounter noise issues early on, very loud squeaking, each time I peddled. I did a combo of Boeshild T-9 and clutch tightening to address it, although I do have to reapply T-9 after a few trips.
I also take on small amounts of water from the rear hatch, it's not enough to cause concern, but I do have to dry it out after each use.
Other than that I'm happy with it so far.
@@CurrentJAM awesome!
@@CurrentJAM I have that same problem but for the life of me I can't figure out where the water gets in. I have to keep a sponge in the front hatch and sponge it out after each trip, not a lot of water, about a coffee cup?
I was determined to try and figure it out where the water was coming in from, so when hosing down the kayak I paid close attention to where water was coming in.
If the bucket is inserted in my bow hatch it doesn’t seal correctly. Removing the large white bucket solve that.
Water also get in via the rod tubes in the bow, I haven’t solved this yet.
I also have water coming in via the hatch in the stern and also via the screws on the rudder square hatch in the stern (I’ve sealed the screws but the round hatch still leaks)
Not a lot of water to be concerned, but enough to be curiously annoyed 😠
How that helps.
Meds to check out my motorguide xi3 video before you go drilling holes in your kayaks and putting pulleys and all that, no drilling needed
Share the video for those that want to check it out mate.
@@CurrentJAM how do I share it more I'd love to help anyone I can I think it really helps with penetrations in the hull for water to find?
Hi great video but, too much trouble, an Old town Kayak has all of that setup already
This is true my friend, but the pedal drive does provide mobility and non electrical propulsion if needed, outside of a hand paddle. These two combined are the best of both worlds.
If I had to choose one or the other, it would be dependent if I ever want to fish tournaments that don't allow for a motor.
For my current fishing, i would lean towards the Old Town.
Hope you enjoy paddling, because you'd never be able to have your motor deployed in a lot of places I fish or need to cross in order to get to the honey hole. I can simply do "futter kicks" with my fins in skinny water and then return to full kicks when it's deep enough (sometimes for only a few feet at a time) in my Hobie. Having a powerful motor up front that can be deployed when needed and still retail pedal power otherwise is the shit!!
do you have any issues with your xi3 and do you still use it today? I'm in the market for one and can't decide between xi3 or one of minn kota gps shortest shaft version. any insight from you would be great.
I haven’t experienced any issues with the Xi3. I have a minn kota on my boat and the spot lock feature struggles to keep position from my experience. That’s not to say that the kayak version wouldn’t have an easier time with a smaller vessel.
Minn Kota is overall ranked better than the Motorguide from the experts so it comes down to budget vs some extra features.
www.trollingmotors.net/blogs/selection/86961159-minn-kota-vs-motorguide