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John carpenter's response to that critic "your move: kick me when I'm down. My move; go down in history as one of the greatest horror directors of the century, while no one will remember who you are...check mate. Check mate"
Amazing
That check mate sounds kinda... Cheating
cheating bitch
I hope that is an actual quote, Carpenter has created a damn masterpiece
Yeah, fuck you too!
And that's why I consider the creature effects in this film to be top-notch: Mid-20s-aged Rob Bottin almost killed himself putting so much effort into these effects. The guy deserves a f*cking medal for that.
George Bean and man did he succeed at his work. For his first major project, he came up with creative creatures like the chest-chomper, the dog creature, spider Thing head & the final ugly mf-er that Mac blows up at the end
He deserved an Oscar. I know E.T. Won that year ( pretty much won any award Gandhi didn’t). Still, what was done on this movie was on a whole other level.
Yep.
Bonus points for the Mac or Windows joke...
This movie alone has answered that question for us.
Hahahahahaha
Just one thing about the dog kennel scene. I always saw the recoiling of pain (when being slammed in the door) as something the real dog was doing. Think about it, the process of assimilation was interrupted so at that moment it's two organisms. While The Thing may not feel pain dogs definitely do. Which is even more terrifying when you think about it. Like a rabbit being slowly digested by a snake the dog is conscious of what is happening but can do nothing about it. Well, except for cry out a bit in it's new body using whatever is left of it's vocal cords.
Oh my God.. you just made this scarier and heartbreaking.. so you suck. Lol
That's horrifying to think about.
I thought it was more like, the thing can transmute itself, but when it's in a form, it has to imitate that form, so it has to have working nerves - i.e. - it's going to feel pain.
YOIKES! That has made that scene even more uncomfortable to watch than before.
That would actually explain Bennings too, thereby justifying the Breathing Theory.
That Mac or Windows joke almost physically hurt me, I was laughing so much XD
Same
"Hello, I'm a Mac."
"And I'm a PC."
Ah the unparalleled masterpiece! This is one of the best if not THE best horror movie ever created, its timeless really!
What is amazing is, this is not a horror film, it's a film about suspense and paranoia.
John Carpenter's The Thing is more of a faithful adaptation of Who Goes There? by John W. Campbell than a remake of The Thing from Another World.
Best line in the movie, delivered so perfectly. "You've gotta be fucking kidding." Love it, and a lovely review of one of my all time favourite horror movies. The scene in the generator room where the planks fly up? That haunted me for years as a kid after I briefly caught the end of the movie on late night TV.
I always imagined both child's and MacReady were Human, and froze to death.
Meh, even without Carpenter's input, I thought Childs was a thing. If only because we lost track of him. But hey, maybe I just was pulled into the movie so well I was distrusting everyone
As I interpreted it, the alcohol that MacReady hands Childs was the same as the molotovs they were burning the base with earlier, likely containing some fuel or accelerant besides normal drinkable alcohol. Childs then drinks it with no repercussions, failing this subtle test by not reacting to the drink the way a normal human would by spitting it out or going 'blegh'
@@Xenunnakithe game makes neither but somehow its still alive
old comment, but there was a series of comics made where they both survived, get rescued but the thing survived and started to spread too
God, I love this movie.
DEUSDAECON I can't wait til you blow up you put out better content than like 90 percent of you tubers you actually put time and effort into your vids especially since you research and take time to see things in multiple perspectives your work is greatly appreciated
Just wanted to say that you are very insightful in your reviews and I've learned a lot from them over the years. I've noticed you haven't uploaded in over a year and wanted you to know that I find your reviews to be of a very high quality and I'm hoping there will be more in the future.
I appreciate that, and yes there will be more im just not sure when yet, ill always recommend my twitch channel in the mean time, thanks again.
I would love to see you do the "Prince of Darkness" John Carpenters. Loved that low budget horror flick.
Yes yes yes
6:30 That reminds me of how in "Zodiac" David Fincher had the Zodiac played by a different actor in every scene he appears in, even though he's always masked or in the shadows anyways. It both adresses the fact that the descriptions given by witnesses differed and also makes the Zodiac a more mysterious character, never giving the audience a clear idea of what he might look like
20:14 When Blaire says "It ain't Fuches..." I always thought that meant "He's not the monster...", like he's trying to calm them down about him, though Blaire may indeed be a monster during that scene. If he was he would probably know who else is infected.
Also, Mac probably called it when he said "Maybe he burned himself before it could get to him...", meaning either it did actually attack him and he torched himself in the process or he straight up committed suicide cause he thought the one guy he trusted the most was infected and working against him the whole time, along with who-knows how many others. This just broke him and he panicked. NEVER panic in horror movies!!!
Yep. People who panic in these kinds of movies usually die, and in a horrible way.
I thought the game was good, I think it has found some appreciation throughout the years, not unlike Carpenter's movie. Don't get me wrong, it's not a masterpiece, it's just not as bad as what you'd think. There were some pretty clever ideas used to convey the horror in video game form. Maybe someday we can get a "Thing" video game with the same attention to detail as Alien: Isolation.
One of my favourite movies, never made the heartbeat connection, good call!
Would you ever review the prequel? It wasn't that bad (except perhaps, the CGI)...
Grant Parsons Your back!!!
Yep!
Blame the test audience. It’s their fault we got a CGI fest.
You’re right. The prequel is not awful. But that’s what makes it so offensive. It’s a competent movie made by people who didn’t understand what made the thing a masterpiece. The thing is not about a stupid alien monster. It’s about paranoia and fear. It’s about the fear that we may be surrounded by smiling faces that want us dead. In that stupid prequel, the monster just goes “fuck it, I guess I’ll reveal myself so you can get a great trailer shot of me transforming.” The earring thing was the worst. The less ways there are to identify the thing the better. In this version, Mcready had to make everyone tie themselves up and give samples of blood. Even that plan failed in the end. In the prequel, the thing is so stupid it doesn’t realize making a mirror imitation of someone will give him away. Whoever made that was either very inept or uninterested in the subject.
@@jamesmoseley5428 or maybe the Thing learned from its mistakes and got smarter...
I was in Iceland around the wintertime last year. I played this soundtrack whilst the mossy Icelandic landscape turned into darkness. Magnificent.
Wow, thats like playing the twin peaks theme while traveling through an unknown town, haunting.
“Windows blast him!”
*Windows is not responding*
YES! Love seeing you upload new videos. I've been watching your videos since I was 12, (19 now).
well I just saw your cameo on a decker shado review I WAS SHOCKED AS HELL REVOUND IT LIKE 5 TIMES AND I HOPE U2 GET TO REVIEW BUG TOGETHER
Love this movie. IMO Palmer was the first one to be infected, when you watch his character he constantly casts suspicion on other characters, and is noticeably more jumpy than the others when he is supposed to be a stoner type character
Personally I find the "self-sacrifice" option interesting, but i feel it would detract from the heightening paranoia.
Nice review, raised a few points I hadn't considered and I am a huge fan of this movie. I think The Things greatest strength along side its stellar creature effects is how deep and clever the plot is, only giving enough info as needed to let the audience really start thinking about what's happening but also be slightly ambiguous. Its a fine balancing act that really makes the whole thing very intriguing and re-watchable. There always something new to consider on the next watch through.
That fucking wire scene gets me every time. I know it's coming, I'm ready for it, and I jump every fucking time
I finished watching your review, it is excellent. One of the best on TH-cam I would say. Now, I watched this first when I was around 10 - 12. I had nightmares for several days. Now I can watch this while eating. There are worse things out there I guess. Also, I remember John Carpenter, Who was that other guy you mentioned who criticized his film? I remember you mentioned him several minutes ago. :-)
Can't believe this was made four years ago. I feel like there is a year long gap in my memory
I'm learning so much more about one of my favorite movies. Nice job, man! :D
It can also be argued that MacReady shot Clarke out of self-defense since Clarke was about to attack him.
I don't know how I never noticed that Blair was sticking the pencil into his mouth after touching the Thing with it. I also thought Blair was gotten when the lights on the base went out and Fuchs was killed. I also like to think that Fuchs killed himself because the Thing was about to get him, in the same fashion as the Norwegian guy with the cut throat. I also seemed to think that Norris was the shadow that we saw in the scene with the dog entering the room. I fucking love this movie, I will need to watch it a few more times to pick up anything that I missed! Thanks for doing this review and opening my eyes to some of the details. Also, I agree, Childs was not a Thing, he was human! I don't know where the fuck he went, they probably just needed him to vanish for a while to set up the 'mysterious' ending, but they could have found a better way to do it.
I am inclined to agree with you on Blair and Fuchs death theories, and that Noirs was the first assimilated by the dog.
I think your reasoning makes since the Thing has to assimilate a host directly not just touch them otherwise it would just leave trace fragments of itself everywhere or go airborne it that's all it took. I think in order to assimilate, the Thing's genetic mass as to overwhelm the host, so the smaller the Thing, the larger the host, the harder assimilation is and the longer it takes. Blair was looking at cells, also its not impossible for the hosts immune system to fight of the Things cells at a micro level but when overwhelm and absorbed at a human scale there's no defence.....or something like that ;]
Yeah Blair does eventually turn but he was the first to understand the magnitude of the situation and that he may already be infected, hence him smashing everything but later building the one man escape ship.
TheAlanirvin You're not supposed to know where childs went, thats the point.
I know I’m way late on this, but I should make a point. The thing can only infect organic material. So if something inorganic touched it, it wouldn’t work. So that is why the pencil doesn’t really make sense infecting Blair. Plus if it can infect him, then why didn’t the scalpel used during the blood test infect everyone after Palmer considering he was a thing?
Another brilliant review, looking at a truly amazing film that really does stand the test of time 😃
12:00 blare couldn’t be infected at that time because he was drinking from a bottle of vodka late on and Mac also drinks from that bottle so blare could be infected until he’s was locked in the storage room. Also blare got fuchs as the sound made when fuchs is attached is the same as when Gary go attacked by blare
Perfect way to start my day
I actually like this version and the 1950's just about equally, for extremely different reasons obviously. Both the 1951 "The Thing from Another World." and John Carpenter's "The Thing" are sceience fiction-horror masterpiece's, and are amongst my favorite films of the genre.
The Thing is a movie I never get tired of. It’s my favorite movie to watch during the winter months
I think it's more likely that Macready turned back the tape and recorded over his confession of fatigue to hopefully make sure people who listen to it don't think they were all just going mental from isolation and stress.
First of all just found your channel while looking explicitly for the thing reviews. And your review blew me away. It was so well done and had lots of information in it. Some of which I had never noticed (tape recorder scene, and the actual chess move that was made making “cheating bitch” so much more poetic)
The Thing is so well done and subtle in ways that just aren’t done in movies anymore. It just gets better with time. Plus no creature creator since Rob Bottin has been able to even come close to the practical effects that this movie has.
But I disagree with the end being ambiguous. I think it is obvious Child’s is the thing in the end. Not upon first viewing of course. Again the subtleties aren’t easy to pick up on. And that of course is the brilliance. But upon multiple viewings. The clues are there and there are a lot of them.
1. Child’s is alone (always a no no in horror movies)
2. It has the following shot of the basement door leading up the stairs to behind Child’s position. Indicating Blair or someone/thing else had the drop on Child’s. And there might even be the sounds of footsteps if I’m not mistaken?
3. The view of the empty room where Child’s just was and the coats and boots have been moved around.
4. Childs runs to the generator room and then the power goes off. Abandoning his post.
5.Childs has no to almost no breath showing in the freezing cold. While Macready is billowing cold air out his mouth.
6.Childs drinks the whiskey/Molotov cocktail. Two ways of looking at this one. Macready hands him a Molotov cocktail and Childs drinks it with no reaction and then Macready laughs. A kind of final “well fuck me” or maybe another “Fuck you too” if he indeed does have that flamethrower under that blanket. Or Childs isn’t scared of what Macready is handing him, even though he doesn’t know if Macready is the thing or not, and drinks the whiskey and doesn’t care. Because he has already turned into the thing.
But besides that nitpick. I really want to say again. That was an amazing and in depth review. And I’ve watched a lot of the thing reviews. As it is one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time. Subscribed and looking forward to your content.
This movie came out the year I was born and I am SO HAPPY it did! I LOVE this movie!!! The Cast, the Effects, The Plot... ALL of it is fantastic!
Hey! Absolutely love your channel. I love waching and re-watching your reviews. If possible, can you do a review of Pet Semetary? Thanks! Keep up the great work.
What an AWESOME critique! Loved it! The Thing is my second favorite move (Alien my first) and I probably know more about this movie than any other. I was amazed when you mentioned that the shadow of the person on the wall (when the dog is going to take him over) is NOT one of the cast. That was cool. Only bit you got wrong was about Russel flying the helicopter. You had the wrong scene and direction. Russel TAKES OFF, not lands and it is the scene when he and Copper fly off to the Norwegian camp. Think about it... it's easy to take off with no experience, but nearly impossible to land without it. :) Other than that small mistake it was an awesome job! Thanks!
I don't know why, but I've always loved Kurt saying "cheatin' bitch." It's one of my favorite one liners of all time. Never thought about what you noticed/described with the screen and things, very cool. This of course, like a lot of others has always been one of my favorite movies.
It was revealed later it was an accident that Blair/Wilford touched the eraser on the chin. Also a resistance against a Thing outbreak may survive if people constantly check each other for infection. Great review dude👌
My favourite film of all time. Seen it way too young and simply fell in love with the effects.
Great review but i am suprised that you didn't include the thing in hp lovecraft month cause i always thought the thing was very lovecraftian as that it has abilitys that outer gods have such as shapshifting, being able to mimic human skin , organs, blood and being able to take freezing cold weather, and it's "final form" we see is a mess of tentacles and mouths like a lot of lovecrafts monsters also we don't know the origin of the thing is not known like a lot of lovecrafts monsters. also would you do a let's play of the thing video game? just wondering love the review
Didn't Windows drop a set of keys? That may explain his "oh shit" face during the who last had the key argument.
Ahhh always enjoy when you upload, and you reviewed one of my all time favorite movies!
OMG, I've watched this movie thousands of times and consider it my favorite move of all time (Which is actually a two way tie, with "Aliens" being the other title that is equally my favorite), so how the hell have I NEVER noticed Fuchs doing a comedic fall after subduing Blair?! LMFAO! Classic!
Rob botin(might've misspelled it ) also worked on howling, and sfx guy(forgot name ) on American werewolf in London was his teacher, so when howling and awil both came out at around the same time it was like the master versus the apprentice
I read about the Childs Theory and rewatched it and it made perfect sense. Mac hands Childs a Molotov cocktail and Childs drinks gasoline as if it was liquor, proving to Mac that his latest test is a valid way to determine if Childs is Childs. Mac chuckles, knowing that it is checkmate again as the screen goes dark and the creature returns to slumber...
Great review of a timeless masterpiece in cinema.
and ive spoken many times about how thats just straight up assumption theres zero evidence that occurs and if you gonna make shit up why not say that the hand of god swooped down and gently carted mac off to Hawaii for sun fun and surf for god sake, its a theory born of childish people who can’t bare to see their masculine daddy figures in a negative light.
The scene where Windows freaks out and gets a shotgun I always figured it's because he was afraid somebody would start pointing the finger at him, because he did have the keys when he found benning's being assimilated, you even hear them drop in that scene
But... hold on a moment. The actor playing the shadow was not part of the main cast? I was sure, from the get-go, that it was the guy suffering from heart problems (actually an infected one).
I thought that because you can clearly tell that, whoever that is, he has a head full of hair. Likely curly (which also makes me add the stoner pilot to the list... another infected one).
All I knew for sure was that no bald guy could've been in that room.
I have both the thing and it’s 2011 prequel it’s my favorite horror movie of all time!
I've read or watched 85 percent of the media on the wall behind you so I appreciate your taste in comics,books,and movies
This holds up today as well as it did the day it was released. I saw it in the theater and it’s been my favorite horror flick since the moment I walked out.
One of my favorite movies, glad some one else heard the heartbeat as well. Funny enough, I read the original book as a small child, likely well before I should have at that age. Thank you for reviewing this.
Glad yo see you tackling this, it's especially appropriate because I'm going to my favorite Horror film convention, Monster Mania in Cherry Hill, where they are having a Thing reunion.
No Keith David or Kurt Russell, but still cool.
windows dropped the keys earlier when the orange haired guy is getting infected, he tells him to go get the keys, then when windows walks in you can hear him drop the keys
Honestly I don't know how we could put up a successful resistance to the Thing. It can imitate any living creature and take on their attributes so that means it could fly by taking birds, swim with fishes, and even burrow with insects and moles and the like not to mention we would have to go on a completely vegetarian diet to be safe which in that situation might be hard since the fields can be attacked, or fail. We would resist so the computer's estimation very well may be off but we would fall eventually.
I doubt plants would be safe from the thing either.
I love "Who goes there". I had this huge volume of short stories that included that, the short story that "The Day the Earth Stood STill" was based on, the Black Destroyer, etc. It was an amazing book with a ton of great stories. A few very timeless and would be relevant even today. Including one about group of aliens that reached out to Earth to warn us about an impending natural disaster that was going to wipe us out as a species; only problem is the person that intercepted the communication was a drunk and disenfranchised factory worker who built missiles for a war who--in his inebriated state-- told the aliens humans weren't worth the effort. All communications were cut off after that.
Just found your channel. Don't know if you have done a review of Danny Boyles "Sunshine" yet but would really like to see one. Keep up the good work.
im sure ill get to that at some point, I'm glad you found the channel, new review video out this saturday and avaiable now for patreon donators
It's funny that the original story said the ship's hull was Magnesium, which is flammable and would have burst into flame upon entering the Earth's atmosphere as it combusts at around 473c. (900f). Could have been a really short story.
I was literally going to say the same thing lol.
Arguably John Carpenter has a lot of masterpieces, but I'd personally say this is John Carpenters most masterpiece masterpiece.
As an aside, I always thought the shadow of the crewmember the dog is seen by was supposed to be Norris. It probably resembles him the most, and if you watch the film carefully its really the only time he could have been assimilated. Also, it highlights how subversive the creature is, because he is almost one of the only ones the rest of the crew never even suspects.
I love your in depth reviews!!
Dude great review youve picked up on so many tid bits that I have never noticed nor seen mentioned on other thing analysis' videos
Shout out to the dog trainers. Cuz that dog was the best actor of the animal kingdom I've ever seen
Nice to see you review better movies, how about Alien next? 😀
Better movies.... Hmm 🤔🧐
One of the cool things of the movie is that, if you watch the Norwegian’s film in this film, and compare it to the 1957 “Thing from Another World”, you’ll see the famous found saucer scene from the original film.
About the ending: When Childs re-appears he's wearing a different jacket. It's been established through visuals and dialogue that the thing rips through the clothes when it absorbs you (with a few exceptions). And if Childs is the thing, it makes sense for him not attacking McReady since it was established that the Thing is intiligent and as such knows killing him would be pointless since they're both going to freeze soon anyways. Which is what the thing wants. Also, apparently there was a filmed ending sequence where McReady is rescued, though this could just be a rumour.
Fair enough, But Carpenter contradicting his own ending in the (in his words) "Canon video game" means that theres no longer an official interpretation and its down to personal choice, Which I am fine with.
Also for the record Childs is wearing the exact same coat he's been wearing throughout the film, And if he wasn't that would be an unbelievably rookie mistake on the part of the thing, especially when its proven it wouldn't make such a mistake.
I'm still interested in knowing if that ending exists somewhere. No film is perfect, there are always mistakes may they be minor or major. The Thing, while certaily one of the closest examples of a technically "perfect" film it does have its share of mistakes. My memory could be fuzzy, but I remember his coat being of a different color all of the sudden. Could be the lighting, or me just remembering it wrong though. I'll probably re watch it to be sure.
Norway guy: DOG SUS!
Crews: Norway guy definitely sus. Let's vote him out.
I remember watching this film aged 14 accidentially on TV and it scared the shit out of me somehow. The loneliness, the paranoia, being attacked by something you can't get a grip on etc. are themes that really and easily get me. Being locked up at the end of the world in feet high snow and ice, far away from civilisation with only a handful of other guys, while one of them most likely isn't who he seems to be....and no way to escape...ugh.. I'd go insane within a few hours....
Have you ever read the shortstory "The Things"? It's this movie from the alien's POV. You can read it online, and it's one of my all time favorite short stories.
Pain sensory information - when the dog goes in with the huskies, the dogs are wary and then the creature's tentacles come out and attack the dogs
When that door is slammed and the remaining dogs are attacked right there
During assimilation, it would seem that The Thing has to start copying everything BEFORE it starts shutting down sections as in needed.
The dogs that have freshly as within the minute start screaming in pain. The Thing can and does shut down pain sensory information down. When copying the dogs...was it starting from dna or just the body - body of a fur bearing quadruped.
All loss of any pretense at hiding shuts down need to shut pain sensory....
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It's nice to see this classic given the respect it deserves by a credible reviewer
That Windows vs Mac joke properly made me chuckle.
one thing i dont understand is, since the thing is so intelligent and is obviously capable of language, why didnt it try to explain itself? i know the prequel stablishes its a prisoner, so he is a "bad guy" by default. however, it trying to stablish some sort of communication would not only show its capability for deception, but also make the humans question their own motives (and so they would be played like fiddle by the thing, as they dont know the thing is a space criminal)
@Follow Your Dreams if the creature wont even try, then the only outcome is to be destroyed. smart enough to replicate alien (to him) creatures and its memories, but not smart enough to say "hey, wait a minute, i can explain"
Always amused when watching the Ice Age film with my 5 year old. There's a sequence when the characters go through a tunnel underground and one of them sees the Thing's flying saucer suspended in ice. Only a brief moment on screen but there it is.
I dig your reviews, man. Thank you.
thank you for watching
Something that always annoyed me about the film is that Windows uses the same Scalpel to get blood from everyone. Before he uses it on himself he just rubs it against his pants to "clean" it. This is quite a flaw as pretty much everyone tested after PALMER should be infected.
But I thought wiping it off on his pants was a CDC approved sterilization protocol (I mean, his did it for both sides).
Sterility didn’t matter. It was rejection of heat that exposed who was infected.
@@tinypurplefishesrunlaughin8052 I don't think you know what I mean. Earlier in the movie Fukes says a small part of this organism is enough to take over an entire host. Also Blair uses the computer to see how a cells take over other cells. If you don't sterilize the scalpel after take blood from someone that is infected and you use it on yourself then obviously you would infect yourself. As an example if someone has an highly infectious disease and you had to take blood from them with a scalpel as in the movie. Would you use the scalpel on yourself afterwards without cleaning it properly?
This has nothing to do with the heat test.
This, Bladerunner and E.T. All came out around the same time. I think when you get this many great movies together you can’t appreciate them. It’s like my first MAME setup🥺
awesome review man hope you'll be able to do more in a shorter time gap
Yeah, its just a little difficult at the moment as I'm performing in a play at the end of march so that has my focus, I am still working on videos though, They just can't take priority.
Deusdaecon Reviews we'd love to see the play too!
if it goes on video either send a link to it or just show it in a video because your acting is something I would absolutely love to see
ill try and get someone in the audience to record it, Would be nice to have it on video.
I showed this film to my nephew early last year because he was into Among Us at the time and he loved it. Had to take his phone away so he would pay attention but when he did he was hooked. He actually thought the effects were cg, saying the Thing looked real. Had to explain to him that it was all practical effects and cg wasn't used and had to explain the difference. It's now one of his favorites.
Excellent review and analysis, as usual!
That is a cool practical effect. Didn't know that about the burning trash bag.
I love how MacReady was all pissed off and berates Nauls for locking him out in the cold. The fact is Childs was right, MacReady would’ve done the same thing. Not only that, if it was him who found Naul’s shredded clothes, he probably would’ve burned him on the spot.
Then MacReady pissed that the group didn’t stop to think that someone might’ve framed him. Now yes it turned out to be true. But the fact is, they’re in a very tough spot and Nauls found evidence that MacReady was possibly The Thing. Given the circumstances I doubt right thinking person would take a risk like that and let MacReady back in where he could possibly infect the others.
Ihad beenwaiting for a review of a good movie! While you were reviewing the GLORIOUS land of jello and breadsticks,i grew tired of the lemmings portrayed. Looking forward to more reviews!
I love how Garey loses his shit about getting untied at the end of the blood test scene. You can see his mind come unhinged due to the horror of Norris's transformation and attack on Windows.
There should really be a thing multiplayer game where one player is the thing and the goal is to infect the other players, and when you infect them it leaves hints to whose infected. And you can also transform and customize your transformations.
Among us
Young man....I FUCKING SALUTE YOU! Best analysis of my all time favourite movie!
Thank you very much, I really appreciate the high praise
Awesome review man.
Seriously think you and Decker Shado should do a collab review soon. :)
The first infected was Norris, he was the only one I could find to fit the silhouette.
I agree, I mean it's either Norris or Palmer and the shadow doesn't really fit Palmer anyway so Norris is the only other logical choice.
awesome review the thing is one of my favs; also have you ever thought of reviewing the blade franchise?
Thank you for pronouncing Rob Bottin's name correctly. It shows you did your research. Most reviewers pronounce it bah-tin.
Dude this was so freakin cool, thanks for the break down.
In the copy of the script we were given back in the day, the 2 survivors are shown boarding a rescue helicopter...followed, in the very end, by Blair. (This was before the film was made, meaning in pre-production.)
Carpenter was probably messing with fans in his comment about the "frosted breath" idea. We may ask him again, but... no guarantee he won't be "a messin'" with anyone who asks about this again.
Yes, smart comment re the lighting. That sort of thing (no pun) HAS to be taken into account. Sometimes one has to go out of their way in photographing "mist" to get it to show up at all, and people can wind up conjecturing endlessly about such things that often are purely accidental.
There is a theory that Childs is a thing because the substance he drinks in the end is actually a molotov cocktail, and he has no reaction to it. What is your opinion on this theory?
The fact that Macready drink from the same bottle before hand, Means it makes less sense.
Interesting moment taking about going against Carpenter's interpretation. That's a bit similar to fans of Blade Runner who don't accept Ridley Scott saying that Deckard is a Replicant. What do you say?
Well considering replicants don't age, and harrison ford is very much older in the blade runner sequel, That would be the final nail in the coffin.
He pretended to drink from it, to set up as a trap? I'm sure McReady is smart enough to do that.
/shrug
If you have to assume something happened when there's no mention, reference or indication what so ever, thats when we leave the realm of fan "theory" and we start getting in fan "fiction".
I finally rewatched the movie a while ago & it’s still a good movie. The acting from Kurt Russell is the highlight and the special effects may be super dated but for practicals are inventive. The score is terrifically minimalist by Ennio Morricone especially that heartbeat rhythm with its sinister mantra
I think I can explain the part where Wilfred bit the pencil. I believe it was absolutely intentional.
Think about it.
The people who see him bit it will either think it’s a mistake or on purpose. Those who think it’s a mistake won’t take the story as seriously if the film made an obvious mistake like that, making the other subtle moments more powerful when they realized they let their guard down. Those who think it’s on purpose will expect him to be infected now. The creature seems to take its advantage when it can, seemingly when no one is around or if it’s an emergency.
After the audience knows this, and see Wilfred in solitary still there and still very much himself, they will think, “oh, well the creature would have taken that moment by now. It’s been alone for hours and did nothing so I’m not sure he’s infected yet.”
This makes when you find out he was infected that whole time more terrifying because it can reveal how clever the creature really is or how much it loves a good hunt. It COULD have changed and escaped to hunt the easily right after they left it alone.
But it waited.
It waited and kept pretending to keep the others alert and afraid and avoid suspicion on him so they would attack each other. Some of it makes me think of a novel called ‘The Most Dangerous Game’ (if I remember correctly). The main character was trapped on an island with someone he thought was harmless, only to find out that person hunted people because they’re more fun to hunt. I get a bit of the same feel from the creature with a move like that.
I believe it’s 100% intentional for the uncertainty that builds up from previous certainty, and the anticipation of “Wait, so, is he really a monster or did they just make a mistake?”
The mind games are real, man
If I ever got to expand on the thing, I did make it so it could assimilate to look like meats food, A character gets a simulated right in front of you and you wouldn't even noticed.
That space ship always brought up a question of time for me because it looks like it dug that massive hole and not only aquired all those materials but assembled them to near completion in what seems like a couple of hours at most, this thing works real damn quick if that's the case
what if all the various infected spent time on it?
the entire course of the movie is multiple days, and the machinery like the helicopter might have provided parts
The Thing also had a comic book series where Child's later became a thing. So maybe Carpenter, even with his weird cannonisity was correct in saying who was a thing and who remained human.