You can say the same thing about Mopar owners and Chevy guys. Most are cool but each has enough idiots in their ranks to make uninformed generalizations.
Jedi391 facts I have a ford, Chevy and hemi. By far the worse ones are the mopar guys...they talk shit about everything. When I got my 300c mopar friends were straight up finally you got a real car yada yada cuz the “mustang was not a mans car” even tho I still had the stang at the time. There’s a reason why mopar dudes don’t get respect in lmm. And the hemi actually gave me the worse problems.
Sneaker Society the joke is that having a hellcat airbox has minuscule actual benefits compared to other mods. It is a minor mod. Not saying it does nothing but not much in comparison👍🏻 In the end having a hellcat airbox isn’t going to win you races😂 and intakes work but getting the the best filter will save you money and do about the same on these v8s. (Such as a K/N air filter)
1st and foremost Good job bro...but get u a after market intake....if the car let's out hella air it needs to intake hella air.. 100$ intakes on eBay will do u better than that factory box ..facts I swear...I own a 5.7
Awesome runs. Awesome sportsmanship. I'm a Mustang guy but I am so incredibly in love with the retro muscle challenger style. I seriously almost bought an R/T but ended up waiting and got a 2020 GT instead and I'm definitely pleased with the car. I'd love to find a car group around me who appreciates all of these machines
I’ve bought about getting a gt but I’m gonna be getting a rt for me I don’t care so much about the extra speed the mustang gets I feel the retro feel the challenger offers is worth the loss of speed
@@rileyenia9388 having the car for 2 months now I've found that I haven't needed near as much power as it offers 😂 It's fun and gets compliments but that's no different than driving a challenger I think. I say drive what you like most
MAKE SURE TO SUB FOR MORE RACES!...Hope you enjoyed the RT showcase. Though I took him in almost all runs, I wanted show how well it could actually do. Also keep in mind guys this was my first time racing a manual so I know I didn’t do the best, but practice makes perfect. Thanks for watching!
@@jdogmoney4556 I mean when you consider the mustangs consistently run 10-12mph in the 1/4 it should be close even if the RT was FBO… they’re on par with a stock 3v GT 🤣
@@Texas_Road_Warrior Exactly, rts are not fast. Quick but not fast. If they can even catch traction and not roll the tires their kinda decent from the dig. That's if it's a gt dude with a manual that can't shift for sh*t like in the video. But it's getting rocked even by a manual if the driver is somewhat decent. The manual 5.0 and 392's are usually dead even with the 10spd auto blowing both out the water.
Same I been wanting a new mustang but his videos with all the problems then no more videos made me believe he got rid of the car lol I love the mustangs but if it's not gonna be as reliable as my camaro ss then screw that
In the grand scheme of things, Challengers aren't that heavy. In fact they're kinda light when you consider the average car weighs more than a Challenger R/T in 2020.
I enjoyed this video and it shares my own experiences since I own both a 2020 R/T and a '14 GT. You are so right about the 5.7 being underrated. It is extremely quick off the line despite the weight difference. The 400 rated torque is key apparently. I find that my GT's 420 HP Coyote engine really kicks in at the very high RPM level. It puts you back in your seat. A fun comparison for sure and I think anyone would really enjoy either model unless you are into serious racing. Most owners are not and just enjoy their quick rides.
Abandoned? It was Ford who started the retro movement in 2005. Dodge is a 2nd mover and when Ford innovates the next "movement" in the industry I'm sure Dodge will follow. Sales are already dropping for the boat body styles and Dodge once again will be late to the party in changing with the times
Screw that. Dodge is keeping it real, mid engine Corvette? Gtfo. And the shelby gt500? That's just ford trying (and failing) to match the hellcat. The Challenger is the only American muscle car left. Its comfortable, smooth and looks the part. It's meant light to light, and that's where they dominate, and that's american muscle
Joshua again.. from someone who doesn’t know what there talking about. You’re an idiot. Typical dodge fan boy. Whatever makes you sleep better at night I guess. 😂👏🏻👏🏻
Yeah the R/T's aren't like the Scat packs.. My buddy has one in a manual and it's got torque and it is a lot of fun, but it's not like his scat pack was.. I'm actually surprised his auto didn't get you.. But it's nice to see people just enjoying their cars, not yelling, screaming, or fighting over money..
I've owned a manual Mustang GT (2018) with the performance pack, I own a 2020 Scat Pack manual currently, as much as I love manuals, it is difficult to beat an automatic, even with more power unless you are really dialed in. I also have a C-6 Corvette Automatic and even though the GT and Scat Pack are tested slightly faster and are more powerful than my older Vette (430 horsepower), I've never got the acceleration numbers that I can get in my Vette. You are really just buying a manual these days for the love of the experience of driving them, the same stock car in an automatic is almost always going to win at the track.
I can’t decide what I want. Interior/exterior are nice in the R/Ts but they’re slow for 25k- 30k. Exterior is nice in the mustangs but interior are trash but they will take off.
Get a Barton short throw shifter with two post bracket , steeda transmission bushing mount, SVE braided clutch line and a SVE clutch reservoir it should eliminate alot of your lockout the next thing would be to upgrade your clutch
Coming late to this video but to answer the question about why the R/T was doing better at higher speeds.. The R/T was using his auto transmission and it has a gear skip starting at lower speeds the car will jump from 1st gear to 4th gear if you push it... Would suggest R/T switch into manual mode...
Unless youre a master at shifting gears, in a manual you just gotta get used to losing more. Human error / inconsistency.. Theres no reason why a RT should beat a GT otherwise, especially those 2018+.
Truth coming from a manual my whole life guy. You can’t out shift these modern autos. Unless you have a massive power advantage you’re likely on the losing end. A 2018+ with the 10R80 will wax a Scat with a good driver in both cars.
NIce Video! I think my favorite races on youtube is the Camaro SS VS The Mustang GT it is pretty much a drivers race. Each side likes to say one will smoke the other but I have seen an a lot of videos with each car winning. Whenever I see those two line up it adds the suspense of which one gets it.
You have a very nice 5.0! I suggest you look into getting a short throw shifter from Barton, MGW, or Steeda. I love my steeda triax. Doing so, will help prevent 3rd gear lockouts.
I’m a challenger owner but in this video , I like the mustang owner better. The challenger RT guy was cocky at the beginning, which I absolutely hate when meeting with other car owners to be cocky.
I love the challenger classi look. But the stang is up next for me in classi style. I feel like camaro should have done more 60s'ish style tucked wit the oversized updated circle headlights... 😭 WOW
The guy with the challenger R/T is losing power because he straight piped his car ive researched into it there’s other ways to make ur car louder but it’s not my decision just a heads up for anyone who plans on straight piping their cars!
Does a muffler instead of a straight pipe still lose power ? I’ve heard mufflers / exhaust kit add like 8-12 depending on car and which exhaust. Can you confirm ?
Yep, I have a 300c hemi, I removed the middle "suitcase" muffler and it felt slower. Then I got flowmaster 40s put on and bbk Shorty's it was definitely faster
Elder Leos if u remove ur mufflers u will be losing power u would have to get a specific pipe to make up for the lose power or tune up ur car and add other things it’s a lot to type up lol
The colour of you GT is awesome. Why does your transmission lock you out? Is that a normal thing for those transmissions? How come you haven't made videos in 3 years?
I feel like the R/T's hp is underrated, because a 600lb heavier car with 75 less horsepower shouldn't keep up that well. I really think the R/T's are more like 400-405, but Dodge would never advertise then that way because who would then go buy a Scat Pack 6.4L for $10,000 more, just for 70-75 extra horsepower?
Nice video, I am not sure your friend knows how to drop his gears to a higher rpm when roll racing. I have an RT but do plan on eventually going for either a Scat Pack or a Mustang GT with PP1 like yours.
To prevent the lock out I try to shift at 6500 rpm and make sure your foot is pressed hard on clutch, also consider getting a stainless steel clutch line
So it is a matter of physics I think in this case. Although the Challenger is heavier it still has more torque earlier (Mustangs like to rev) which is what matters in a roll race. From a dig I am sure the Mustang wins because it would get better traction than the Challenger which would just spin it's tires from a dead stop. 🤓
Lock out is a genuine and annoying issue on mt82's but shift accuracy can still cause some grief. On my 2019 gt with the mt82 and stock shifter (with aftermarket urethane shifter bushing and trans mount insert) i have found the following- 2nd gear is not straight back from first, you need to hug toward your leg as you pull back, so back and to the left to get into 2nd when shifting fast under power 2 to 3- the shifter will try to self center you into 3rd as you shift, if you deliberately push over to 3rd you can overshoot the gate and hit between 5th and 3rd, try to just push forward from the back of the shifter ball and let the mt82 self guide into 3rd, try just pushing it in regular driving to get a feel for how the shifter wants to aim for 3rd on its own. This should get you shifting at 71 to 7200 rpm pretty reliably unless the clutch is overheated. Shifting beyond 7200rpm is a bit of a crapshoot on the stock clutch but the power is dropping off at this point anyway unless you are tuned.
Torques where it's at, and the challenger only has 10 less fps of torgue, so that's negligble... But, it's weighs a lot more, so it's even more impressive
OP, check and see if your manual trans has a “skip shift” feature. My Scat Pack does, and under hard acceleration it’ll lockout 2nd gear. Some say it’s for fuel economy, others say it’s because gear ratios being so close you might as well skip a gear. Either way, it’s annoying, and can be eliminated all together.
I think the title is backwards lol Looks like he only got you that one time because you missed a shift, which isn't a legit race to me; deserves a restart. But good runs man, love both cars. Subscribed.
@@bman99ss No, true, I went over somewhat, but you're not correct, either, The Mustang GT weighs 3705 and the Challenger is 4450. Both are curb weights. That is still a MASSIVE weight difference of 750 pounds.....just saying....that will impact performance on a fairly large scale. I believe the Camaro is the lightest at about 3600, although, I may be out.
I haven't raced a 2020 in my 2010 RT but I have chewed up 2 Mustang 5.0s guessing 2015ish on the highway and every car from stop light to stop light. But I have only had this 2 weeks not sure what the previous owner might have done to it. Plus I only raced a Charger, BMW, and a guy in a g35 wasn't sure what he was thinking but i guess we both had fun.
Great video. You should guys find proper track to try out your cars, not to be distracted on the highway. Being R/T owner (Charger) have a respect to all muscle cars. From my observations, the R/Ts recently became out shadowed by Scat Packs / Hellcat / Demon, although they are very solid muscle cars with a lot of heritage.
The new 5.0 does beat out the 5.7 but they both sound incredible and give that giddy goosebump feeling. It's still impressive how the 5.7 pushes all of that car down the road as quickly as it does
QUEEZY just get a straight pipe, lol that’s what I’m running with my active exhaust stuck open with the metal plates from ebay, I’ve heard the corsa extreme catback sounds nice but that’s a lil pricey while I only 125.00
QUEEZY not really youd think it would be obnoxious like how some people say but it’s really not and you can listen to music with no problem, although if you do get a straight pipe and you don’t get those metal plates for the active exhaust you’ll just have that pesky engine light lol not everyone likes to see it but that’s just a heads up if you do go that route
Both good cars I’m a challenger owner and I respect both cars even Camaros The only car I hate is corvette. Man the corvette owners remind me bmw drivers
I hate the new mustang look, the 2013 was sweet. Saving for a challenger 6.4, don't care if the mustang is faster ??? the challenger is way way more bad ass.
Straight pipes kill your low end power. You need some kind of regulated back pressure. The RT was set up all wrong. Good air intake and a couple pacesetters would do the trick. Higher octane.
Ive had straight pipe, a mid exhaust dump, and 5 different kinds of exhaust. Straight pipe does indeed hurt. And its raspy as shit. Like a chihuahua. Not enough bite to back up the bark.
I have a 2019 6speed manual r/t with super track pack and I beat a lot of 392s I have definitely noticed a lot of people just don’t know how to drive their cars.
Nice! I plan on getting an RT, any v8 is an upgrade for me coming from a v6. I think an RT realistically is more than enough for me, my car now feels quick lol. 392 would be overkill in price and power for me I think. Does the RT punch you back in the seat from a stop? That’s what I mainly would like and the sound
@@Quintolloo challenger RT yea you get that pushed into your seat feel. I noticed this because my cousin got a 18 chally RT and I have a 17 charger RT, same amount of HP, he has a little bit more torque, charger a bit heavier, his chally seemed to pull much harder.
I have a 2017 R/T; Do Yourself a Favor and Get a 392 Scat Pack if you can afford it. A hundred more HP. I’m saying because Once you have a 5.7 , You are going to want more Power and it’s a lot less money for the 100 HP on a 392; it would cost a heck of a lot more for the 100 HP on the 5.7. I guarantee that you will Want more- It’s addicting. I could not afford it; That’s the Only Reason I got an R/T. I’m Old School. Love the looks of the Challenger; If I could do it all over, I would have found a Way to get a 392 Challenger; Even if I had to borrow some money from my family. Everyone has a different situation though. I am grateful for what I have; because I love the way it looks. But I don’t Race at All because it’s a 5.7. Mustang’s Always have a large Weight Advantage. The NEW Camaro SS has probably the best HP for the dollar. But like I said I love the Old School Looks I have. Good Luck to Getting what you want! Just trying to warn you about HP and what it can do to you.
My 5.7 is all kinds of souped and I’ve beaten stock hellcats. of course I could of bought a whole new hellcat or two RTs with the amount i spent on upgrades but that’s not important right now. Lemme just enjoy being deceivingly fast don’t tell me facts.
Someone with a mach 1 try to race me but I knew my R/T will not win against it but I gave him a little run then when end up stop light he asked what kind of car I got. I said it's just a regular hemi 5.7 and told you'll win any day bro. But after watching this, I think I can keep up with him... if not my challenger still hotter lol... I knew I gap an SS in the highway and I give up on 135 mph, due to my car start feeling like floating on the road lol. I think that time, I'm just a better driver lol. There's no way I'll win against an SS either but in a long stretch dangerous heavy maneuvering traffic. Skills matter 😆 🤣 😂
Honestly the first chill mustang owner I've seen. Usually it's "everything else is trash."
A42yearoldARAB I appreciate that 😂
You can say the same thing about Mopar owners and Chevy guys. Most are cool but each has enough idiots in their ranks to make uninformed generalizations.
@@Jedi391 💯
Jedi391 facts I have a ford, Chevy and hemi. By far the worse ones are the mopar guys...they talk shit about everything. When I got my 300c mopar friends were straight up finally you got a real car yada yada cuz the “mustang was not a mans car” even tho I still had the stang at the time. There’s a reason why mopar dudes don’t get respect in lmm. And the hemi actually gave me the worse problems.
Trey Gotti I can 100% mopar has the most cancerous community lol
If the car scene was more like this, Id be around more, but unfortunately it’s toxic af. Good sportsmanship bro, subscribed.
Alex M. I agree
Same here
Fats
Same
Agreed. To many people with huge egos and can’t just have a good old fashioned friendly race. It’s always a “who’s cock is bigger” type thing.
3:50 yeah i felt that in my balls. The 345 hemis have such a rich v8 tone. It reminds me of extra dark unsweetened and black coffee
Mr dark man i always associate exhaust tones with rockstar energy flavors idk why
I personally dont care for them straight piped with baby pipes
Thanks for the runs.👍🏻 🏁 Awesome 20’ GT
T S hellcat intakes do work lol or it wouldn’t be on a hellcat lol 🤦🏽♂️
Sneaker Society the joke is that having a hellcat airbox has minuscule actual benefits compared to other mods. It is a minor mod. Not saying it does nothing but not much in comparison👍🏻 In the end having a hellcat airbox isn’t going to win you races😂 and intakes work but getting the the best filter will save you money and do about the same on these v8s. (Such as a K/N air filter)
T S the hellcat intake gives you more air. A LOT more air. The stock boxes from the factory are pretty good already.
1st and foremost Good job bro...but get u a after market intake....if the car let's out hella air it needs to intake hella air.. 100$ intakes on eBay will do u better than that factory box ..facts I swear...I own a 5.7
bman classics sup in like the 3rd chat tnight lol
Awesome runs. Awesome sportsmanship.
I'm a Mustang guy but I am so incredibly in love with the retro muscle challenger style. I seriously almost bought an R/T but ended up waiting and got a 2020 GT instead and I'm definitely pleased with the car.
I'd love to find a car group around me who appreciates all of these machines
I’ve bought about getting a gt but I’m gonna be getting a rt for me I don’t care so much about the extra speed the mustang gets I feel the retro feel the challenger offers is worth the loss of speed
@@rileyenia9388 having the car for 2 months now I've found that I haven't needed near as much power as it offers 😂
It's fun and gets compliments but that's no different than driving a challenger I think. I say drive what you like most
@@Road_Work_Ahead Do you have a automatic with the performance pack?
Got a 5.7 challenger with black racing stripes and straight piped love the style want a scatpack tho for more power
Bro same
MAKE SURE TO SUB FOR MORE RACES!...Hope you enjoyed the RT showcase. Though I took him in almost all runs, I wanted show how well it could actually do. Also keep in mind guys this was my first time racing a manual so I know I didn’t do the best, but practice makes perfect. Thanks for watching!
ALSO Im in OC if any scat packs/392’s or SS’s want to race hmu! i deleted my ig but just reply here
i like this everyone’s very respectful
“You got the hellcat air intake like Rush?”😂😂
@@AA-zs9sf Rush's 5.0 is Supercharged on E85 lol.... not stock
Garren Turk he’s talking about side boo aka the 392
Thanks for showing some love for the RT 5.7. I love mine
5.7 did pretty damn good way better then I expected honestly.
Because he can’t drive the damn mustang shoulda bought a 10spd
Ya cause he doesn’t have the 10 speed. But it did good
especially with the mustang guy jumping the start constantly
@@jdogmoney4556 I mean when you consider the mustangs consistently run 10-12mph in the 1/4 it should be close even if the RT was FBO… they’re on par with a stock 3v GT 🤣
@@Texas_Road_Warrior Exactly, rts are not fast. Quick but not fast. If they can even catch traction and not roll the tires their kinda decent from the dig. That's if it's a gt dude with a manual that can't shift for sh*t like in the video. But it's getting rocked even by a manual if the driver is somewhat decent. The manual 5.0 and 392's are usually dead even with the 10spd auto blowing both out the water.
“Oh that’s straight piped my ears almost blew out” I’m dead💀
My rt is basically straight piped its loud and cost like 240 bucks. Sounds good to not just loud
Sucks that I found this awesome channel only to find out his last video was 2 years ago 😔
Same I been wanting a new mustang but his videos with all the problems then no more videos made me believe he got rid of the car lol I love the mustangs but if it's not gonna be as reliable as my camaro ss then screw that
@@Travisisaac55hey quick question man, your Camaro still good?
The reason he does better in the top end is because in the launch he’s picking up his anchor. Our challengers are BOATS!
all makes sense now
In the grand scheme of things, Challengers aren't that heavy. In fact they're kinda light when you consider the average car weighs more than a Challenger R/T in 2020.
@PotatoeJoe69 yeah but the rt is a couple lol
“My hands are so shaky!”
Drives a manual 😂
Race a scat pack next
@stang55 dude they are not slow...i beat like four 5.0 from a roll...and im stock
@stang55 dude you dont know shit about 392 scatpacks...they run low 12's....but what ever dude..think what you want..
@@RA-zk4gg u wont beat the 10 speed 18s and up too heavy anyone who can race it probably will beat u
@@blackgt19 you are probably right...i dont know what year the 3 5.0 i race...but i think they were not 10 speed
@@RA-zk4gg yea If they looked modern they were probably the the 15-17 with the 435 hp which is light work for a 392.
Great video! Lots of positivity here and I definitely appreciate that. RTs can be quick so I agree that they are underrated.
The 5.7 the best to me cause most ppl can drive it easily a lot of people can't handle a scat! It's better on gas and the hemi sounds amazing
I enjoyed this video and it shares my own experiences since I own both a 2020 R/T and a '14 GT. You are so right about the 5.7 being underrated. It is extremely quick off the line despite the weight difference. The 400 rated torque is key apparently. I find that my GT's 420 HP Coyote engine really kicks in at the very high RPM level. It puts you back in your seat. A fun comparison for sure and I think anyone would really enjoy either model unless you are into serious racing. Most owners are not and just enjoy their quick rides.
Say what you want about Dodge and their heavy cars, but Chevy and Ford have abandoned the classic muscle car look. Its sad.
Abandoned? It was Ford who started the retro movement in 2005. Dodge is a 2nd mover and when Ford innovates the next "movement" in the industry I'm sure Dodge will follow. Sales are already dropping for the boat body styles and Dodge once again will be late to the party in changing with the times
Ryan McKee THankyou. Again another idiot who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Lol. Must be a mopar fan boy 🤔
Screw that. Dodge is keeping it real, mid engine Corvette? Gtfo. And the shelby gt500? That's just ford trying (and failing) to match the hellcat. The Challenger is the only American muscle car left. Its comfortable, smooth and looks the part. It's meant light to light, and that's where they dominate, and that's american muscle
Joshua again.. from someone who doesn’t know what there talking about. You’re an idiot. Typical dodge fan boy. Whatever makes you sleep better at night I guess. 😂👏🏻👏🏻
@@jaydub79 hahah gt500 rips what the fuck are you saying man🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love your car man! I’m a mopar guy but always loved mustangs as well!!!! New subscriber!
Yeah the R/T's aren't like the Scat packs.. My buddy has one in a manual and it's got torque and it is a lot of fun, but it's not like his scat pack was.. I'm actually surprised his auto didn't get you.. But it's nice to see people just enjoying their cars, not yelling, screaming, or fighting over money..
Awesome race! Your Mustang is beautiful. "Filmed in Mexico City, Mexico", didn't realize Mexico City looked so much like SoCal.....lol!
Thank you! And yep ;)
I've owned a manual Mustang GT (2018) with the performance pack, I own a 2020 Scat Pack manual currently, as much as I love manuals, it is difficult to beat an automatic, even with more power unless you are really dialed in. I also have a C-6 Corvette Automatic and even though the GT and Scat Pack are tested slightly faster and are more powerful than my older Vette (430 horsepower), I've never got the acceleration numbers that I can get in my Vette. You are really just buying a manual these days for the love of the experience of driving them, the same stock car in an automatic is almost always going to win at the track.
…unspoken truth about Mustang owners, they secretly admire the Challenger.
Considering the Challenger weighs a lot more.... The Rt was impressive
I can’t decide what I want.
Interior/exterior are nice in the R/Ts but they’re slow for 25k- 30k. Exterior is nice in the mustangs but interior are trash but they will take off.
Get a Barton short throw shifter with two post bracket , steeda transmission bushing mount, SVE braided clutch line and a SVE clutch reservoir it should eliminate alot of your lockout the next thing would be to upgrade your clutch
That California stop at 0:48 though! Lol. Love from Texas! Sweet car my RT is the same color!
Coming late to this video but to answer the question about why the R/T was doing better at higher speeds.. The R/T was using his auto transmission and it has a gear skip starting at lower speeds the car will jump from 1st gear to 4th gear if you push it... Would suggest R/T switch into manual mode...
Unless youre a master at shifting gears, in a manual you just gotta get used to losing more.
Human error / inconsistency..
Theres no reason why a RT should beat a GT otherwise, especially those 2018+.
Mikeman Jordan practice. Mastery at anything doesnt just happen...
Mikeman Jordan that was my main point...........
MIBASO88 anything can beat anything. There’s always something bigger and badder than the one next to it. Stock or tuned.
Zach well of course.
Truth coming from a manual my whole life guy. You can’t out shift these modern autos. Unless you have a massive power advantage you’re likely on the losing end. A 2018+ with the 10R80 will wax a Scat with a good driver in both cars.
NIce Video! I think my favorite races on youtube is the Camaro SS VS The Mustang GT it is pretty much a drivers race. Each side likes to say one will smoke the other but I have seen an a lot of videos with each car winning. Whenever I see those two line up it adds the suspense of which one gets it.
Devcom88 hopefully i can find an ss to race
You have a very nice 5.0! I suggest you look into getting a short throw shifter from Barton, MGW, or Steeda. I love my steeda triax. Doing so, will help prevent 3rd gear lockouts.
That was actually enjoyable to watch. Nice video!
That Challenger Is Sick😍 YEEAAAAAH 5:46
Mustang owners are our brothers
American muscle ❤️
Hemi hits best on 40 roll!
That German ZF in the challenger is fast. I'm a Mopar guy but a GT 5.0 should beat the challenger every time with a 85hp advantage 🤔.
I’m a challenger owner but in this video , I like the mustang owner better. The challenger RT guy was cocky at the beginning, which I absolutely hate when meeting with other car owners to be cocky.
I love the challenger classi look. But the stang is up next for me in classi style. I feel like camaro should have done more 60s'ish style tucked wit the oversized updated circle headlights... 😭 WOW
The guy with the challenger R/T is losing power because he straight piped his car ive researched into it there’s other ways to make ur car louder but it’s not my decision just a heads up for anyone who plans on straight piping their cars!
Does a muffler instead of a straight pipe still lose power ? I’ve heard mufflers / exhaust kit add like 8-12 depending on car and which exhaust. Can you confirm ?
Yep, I have a 300c hemi, I removed the middle "suitcase" muffler and it felt slower. Then I got flowmaster 40s put on and bbk Shorty's it was definitely faster
Elder Leos if u remove ur mufflers u will be losing power u would have to get a specific pipe to make up for the lose power or tune up ur car and add other things it’s a lot to type up lol
The colour of you GT is awesome. Why does your transmission lock you out? Is that a normal thing for those transmissions? How come you haven't made videos in 3 years?
The 5.7 hemi built can make lot of power
I feel like the R/T's hp is underrated, because a 600lb heavier car with 75 less horsepower shouldn't keep up that well. I really think the R/T's are more like 400-405, but Dodge would never advertise then that way because who would then go buy a Scat Pack 6.4L for $10,000 more, just for 70-75 extra horsepower?
Nice video, I am not sure your friend knows how to drop his gears to a higher rpm when roll racing. I have an RT but do plan on eventually going for either a Scat Pack or a Mustang GT with PP1 like yours.
Dude that was a good race I'm really proud of you I'm going to be getting mine sometime this month nice 5.0 I love it
To prevent the lock out I try to shift at 6500 rpm and make sure your foot is pressed hard on clutch, also consider getting a stainless steel clutch line
So it is a matter of physics I think in this case. Although the Challenger is heavier it still has more torque earlier (Mustangs like to rev) which is what matters in a roll race. From a dig I am sure the Mustang wins because it would get better traction than the Challenger which would just spin it's tires from a dead stop. 🤓
Lock out is a genuine and annoying issue on mt82's but shift accuracy can still cause some grief.
On my 2019 gt with the mt82 and stock shifter (with aftermarket urethane shifter bushing and trans mount insert) i have found the following-
2nd gear is not straight back from first, you need to hug toward your leg as you pull back, so back and to the left to get into 2nd when shifting fast under power
2 to 3- the shifter will try to self center you into 3rd as you shift, if you deliberately push over to 3rd you can overshoot the gate and hit between 5th and 3rd, try to just push forward from the back of the shifter ball and let the mt82 self guide into 3rd, try just pushing it in regular driving to get a feel for how the shifter wants to aim for 3rd on its own.
This should get you shifting at 71 to 7200 rpm pretty reliably unless the clutch is overheated. Shifting beyond 7200rpm is a bit of a crapshoot on the stock clutch but the power is dropping off at this point anyway unless you are tuned.
I love your mustang and I’m a challenger owner. 😂
stay humble buddy u will enjoy everything you do so much more
Torques where it's at, and the challenger only has 10 less fps of torgue, so that's negligble... But, it's weighs a lot more, so it's even more impressive
OP, check and see if your manual trans has a “skip shift” feature. My Scat Pack does, and under hard acceleration it’ll lockout 2nd gear. Some say it’s for fuel economy, others say it’s because gear ratios being so close you might as well skip a gear. Either way, it’s annoying, and can be eliminated all together.
I think the title is backwards lol Looks like he only got you that one time because you missed a shift, which isn't a legit race to me; deserves a restart. But good runs man, love both cars. Subscribed.
Screw you! Winning is winning lol jk jk
I have a 19 r/t lol
@@drestrepo5631 true. A win is a win no excuses.
Awesome video brother, keep them coming. Also keep racing the Mustang so you learn the car
I got smoked by a Mustang GT in my Volvo s80 T6. Right around 70 mph it pulls away. But I eat Challenger /Charger RT's with absolute ease.
You are shifting way too early, rev up to 7k, these engine start pulling on top end.
If that Challenger had a LSD diff installed than it'd be another story.
ajay sandhu it’s pretty ridiculous they’d send a car like that out of the factory with anything less lol
It will still lose, but it will be so much closer
Cars Production's nah bro won’t be much closer.
Lmfao they're racing from a roll. An LSD will make absolutely zero difference.
It’s not the car it’s the driver . The GT can win every time.
You were born 50 years too late, that's when manual transmission ruled
You earned a sub, once you race more you will get used to it but keep grinding brother👍🏼💯💯💯
How in the world did the challenger keep up
I have an idea. Buy the Ten speed auto!!! Nobody can shift as fast as the ten speed
I rented both a Challenger RT and a Mustang GT on separate occasions. The Mustang felt 10 times faster . . .
It's amazing what almost a thousand pounds less in weight can do for performance.
@@SSGTA440 477 pounds is not almost a thousand pounds . . .
@@bman99ss No, true, I went over somewhat, but you're not correct, either, The Mustang GT weighs 3705 and the Challenger is 4450. Both are curb weights. That is still a MASSIVE weight difference of 750 pounds.....just saying....that will impact performance on a fairly large scale. I believe the Camaro is the lightest at about 3600, although, I may be out.
@@SSGTA440 The Challenger RT weighs in at 4182, not 4450 . . .
@@bman99ss Wrong, the Srt8 is 4450.
Pretty color Mustang. My 2011 Challenger SRT8 is orange. little darker, sparkly.
I haven't raced a 2020 in my 2010 RT but I have chewed up 2 Mustang 5.0s guessing 2015ish on the highway and every car from stop light to stop light. But I have only had this 2 weeks not sure what the previous owner might have done to it. Plus I only raced a Charger, BMW, and a guy in a g35 wasn't sure what he was thinking but i guess we both had fun.
Great video. You should guys find proper track to try out your cars, not to be distracted on the highway. Being R/T owner (Charger) have a respect to all muscle cars. From my observations, the R/Ts recently became out shadowed by Scat Packs / Hellcat / Demon, although they are very solid muscle cars with a lot of heritage.
no dig race or low speed roll where the challengers shine?
Mexico is only three honks away lol
Always haha
the modern 5.0 coyotes should destroy 5.7L. I have a 2018 rt
Phillip Gertler They do.
The new 5.0 does beat out the 5.7 but they both sound incredible and give that giddy goosebump feeling. It's still impressive how the 5.7 pushes all of that car down the road as quickly as it does
Wrong.
@@Road_Work_Ahead because it’s a 345 not some small 5.0
1:32 the blue stinger 🤤
Holy crap! It's Beavis! from beavis and butthhead.
😂”my ears blew out”
A cai wouldn’t hurt, but you can max out the performance in those 5.7’s reliably easily and on a budget
Would you say a cat back exhaust be necessary for a slight performance gain if you buy an R/T that already comes with active exhaust?
QUEEZY just get a straight pipe, lol that’s what I’m running with my active exhaust stuck open with the metal plates from ebay, I’ve heard the corsa extreme catback sounds nice but that’s a lil pricey while I only 125.00
ImThatRealNigga Chris gotcha lol no headache? But they definitely do sound good straight pipe as far as outside lmao
QUEEZY not really youd think it would be obnoxious like how some people say but it’s really not and you can listen to music with no problem, although if you do get a straight pipe and you don’t get those metal plates for the active exhaust you’ll just have that pesky engine light lol not everyone likes to see it but that’s just a heads up if you do go that route
ImThatRealNigga Chris gotcha I’ll keep that as an option, if not I may just go all the way and buy that borla atak lmao
Challenger gang 🔥
Turn your rev matching on and that may help the lock out. That's what i hated about my 15 performance pack
Love the color of your car 👍
hm. i have 2020 gt and i beat up my friends scat pack ,and my gt is 850 milea.
driver error
Me and you should get a run bro my 18 5.0 vs ur 2020 5.0 would be clean 🤘🏻
Both good cars
I’m a challenger owner and I respect both cars even Camaros
The only car I hate is corvette. Man the corvette owners remind me bmw drivers
Colors look clean af
Congrats on 1k
thank you!
When i seen the wasted come on i thought he crashed i was like 😨😰
Can someone tell me why all TH-cam guys say filmed in Mexico etc when they’re not ? Is it for legal purposes or insurance ? Or what ?
Both
Not about the car... it’s about the driver....
My only complaint is the stock brakes should be brembos
Actually in this case it's all about torque.
I hate the new mustang look, the 2013 was sweet. Saving for a challenger 6.4, don't care if the mustang is faster ??? the challenger is way way more bad ass.
Straight pipes kill your low end power. You need some kind of regulated back pressure. The RT was set up all wrong. Good air intake and a couple pacesetters would do the trick. Higher octane.
Back pressure isn’t real
Ive had straight pipe, a mid exhaust dump, and 5 different kinds of exhaust. Straight pipe does indeed hurt. And its raspy as shit. Like a chihuahua. Not enough bite to back up the bark.
Lol when he said “GG”
Jesus Christ luvs us all ❤️❤️
I have a 2019 6speed manual r/t with super track pack and I beat a lot of 392s I have definitely noticed a lot of people just don’t know how to drive their cars.
Nice! I plan on getting an RT, any v8 is an upgrade for me coming from a v6. I think an RT realistically is more than enough for me, my car now feels quick lol. 392 would be overkill in price and power for me I think. Does the RT punch you back in the seat from a stop? That’s what I mainly would like and the sound
@@Quintolloo challenger RT yea you get that pushed into your seat feel. I noticed this because my cousin got a 18 chally RT and I have a 17 charger RT, same amount of HP, he has a little bit more torque, charger a bit heavier, his chally seemed to pull much harder.
I have a 2017 R/T; Do Yourself a Favor and Get a 392 Scat Pack if you can afford it. A hundred more HP. I’m saying because Once you have a 5.7 , You are going to want more Power and it’s a lot less money for the 100 HP on a 392; it would cost a heck of a lot more for the 100 HP on the 5.7. I guarantee that you will Want more- It’s addicting. I could not afford it; That’s the Only Reason I got an R/T. I’m Old School. Love the looks of the Challenger; If I could do it all over, I would have found a Way to get a 392 Challenger; Even if I had to borrow some money from my family. Everyone has a different situation though. I am grateful for what I have; because I love the way it looks. But I don’t Race at All because it’s a 5.7. Mustang’s Always have a large Weight Advantage. The NEW Camaro SS has probably the best HP for the dollar. But like I said I love the Old School Looks I have. Good Luck to Getting what you want! Just trying to warn you about HP and what it can do to you.
They need to change the name from challenger to CHAMPION!!!!! YEP
Yea that mt-82 can be a pain sometimes but you'll get the hang of it. Took me a bit in my '15 gt.
ive never been locked out in my 2020
It's the manual man. Hard to best the new modern AT cars.
Rt needs full exhaust and tune.
My 5.7 is all kinds of souped and I’ve beaten stock hellcats. of course I could of bought a whole new hellcat or two RTs with the amount i spent on upgrades but that’s not important right now. Lemme just enjoy being deceivingly fast don’t tell me facts.
🎉congratulations on your 1k subs
Blocks license plate but says what on the plate
Someone with a mach 1 try to race me but I knew my R/T will not win against it but I gave him a little run then when end up stop light he asked what kind of car I got. I said it's just a regular hemi 5.7 and told you'll win any day bro. But after watching this, I think I can keep up with him... if not my challenger still hotter lol...
I knew I gap an SS in the highway and I give up on 135 mph, due to my car start feeling like floating on the road lol. I think that time, I'm just a better driver lol. There's no way I'll win against an SS either but in a long stretch dangerous heavy maneuvering traffic. Skills matter 😆 🤣 😂
Nice runs. Try a race from a dig. It will be good practice shifting gears. :)
soon!