You can’t go wrong with a challenger or 6 speed manual transmission. Especially what’s under the hood a NA v8 these cars will still be icons for years they will never be forgotten. The retro styling of the challenger has aged so well it will never look old or boring
"Is the 2021 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack manual a BETTER muscle car than a Mustang GT?" The short answer is "yes" because it is the only one that still has the old muscle car look. As far as an overall sports car vs a Mustang, it comes down to preferences. Let me explain. I have a 2018 Manual Mustang GT. I've raced three Scat Packs (Two Challengers, One Charger) and beat them all pretty good. They ALL had me off the line, then I caught and passed them. The Low End Torque the Scat Pack has is unreal. I catch them seconds later because the Mustang has a steady increase in the higher gears and revs, where the Scats seemed to level off, plus the additional weight they were carrying didn't help. They have 485 hp stock, which is a ridiculous amount of power, however my Mustang seemed to maintain traction better. The best old school muscle car looks = Challengers win easily. There is nothing out there that looks like them. They're beautiful to me. That's not saying Mustangs and Camaros are ugly. They aren't. They don't look old school, either. The Mustang had some of that look with the Fifth Generation, but that changed in 2015. You want room for people and gear, don't care about handling, and want gobbs of low end torque, get the Challenger. You want to drive something American, sporty, fast, and that handles good, but you can't afford a Corvette, get the Mustang or Camaro. There really isn't a wrong answer here. Also, EVERYTHING is better as a Manual. That's all I have ever owned. Save the Manuals!
The way I always read it online and personally saw it as is that the Challenger is a great long distance GT car, the Camaro is a great track car, and the Mustang is a blend of both between those two. That theme seems to continue from the Scat Pack, GT, and SS all the way up to the Hellcat Redeye, GT500, and ZL1
I truly think the 392 manual is a perfect street car. Every hellcat I see racing on the street they are almost useless, constantly losing traction and trying to kill it's owner. Unless you wanna do 90moh roll race. I love the 392 and Camaro because of the manual, pushrod setup.
I had a widebody 392 and was still always losing traction lol. Not bad in a straight line but it was terrible in the corners. I couldn't even imagine trying to daily a hellcat lol
I love my 2021 scat pack, many smiles per gallon of gasoline, three months ago you helped me decide between Mustang gt and my Dodge, thanks Joe for the excellent work you share with us!!!!
@@TheEnd-eg6wq comprehend a sentence? ur telling somebody they made a mistake for a buy a car THEY liked ? Peasant ? what are u ? Let me guess ur 40? gtfo Lmaoo
Yes yes yes and yeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!! I want every single version of the Challenger before the automotive industry goes all electric!!!! Absolute and sheer madness those Dodge brothers have with horsepower and torque!!! I love them all!!! Put this one on the truck to Massachusetts for me too please and thank you Joe!!! Great review as usual!!! Literally nobody does it like you and Lori!!!
The challenger is a more usable daily driver to live with. Better ride and more space than the Mustang and the Camaro. It’s a no brainer for the street.
Just sooooo much fun every time I’m behind the wheel. Always makes me smile 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 This is the muscle car to have, hands down. Always enjoy your reviews of the V8 Challenger/Charger/Durango - you know what’s it’s like to be part of the Brotherhood of Muscle 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 And a special tip of the 🎩 going out to Lori for making it all look great!
Smiles per mile man, great review as always JoE! Sweet spot in the Challenger line up, and the Dynamics Package gives you 275s with the 6 piston Brembos in a non-wide body. Great streetable power with the Scat Trim.
It's relatively marginal but I prefer the visibility of the challenger. The Camaro is the worst hands down, mustang in the relative middle. But I just love the challenger look and shape. Thanks for this review Joe.
I’ve had 3 Mustang GT’s including my current car, a 21’ GT PP1 in Oxford White with Showstopper interior, which I love and an 07’ C6 Z06 in Lemans Blue and I’ve loved them all. But there’s sometimes about this Challenger in a manual that I really, really dig. When we have the discussion of which car is faster to 60 or in the 1/4, Camaro, the Stang or either of the Dodges, we are splitting hairs snd how often will you actually line it up? To me, cars are about emotion and how they make me feel when I drive them. This Challenger sounds great and it has the Tremec, which my GT, sadly does not… The C6 Z06 had a shit ton of low end torque. This Challenger does too. And for street driving, that torque provides all the emotion one could ask for. This manual Challanger with that 6.4 is talking to me!
Joe, I have a 12 GT but this challenger checks all the boxes for a great street car. The Tremec over the MT-82, badges, interior, screen display, drivetrain. I had a 70 challenger and a super bee and this car carries on the tradition.
Well, the manual in the Challenger might be stronger, however, the Mustang shifts smoother in my opinion. Also, I like the room in the Challenger, but you can really feel the weight of the car compared to others in its class. Great review nevertheless.
If we’re gonna modify it, 5.0 all day. It’s got WAY more tuner potential. If we’re keeping it stock, I’d go with the Scat. They’ve just got more soul when you drive them. That 6.4 is 1 peach of an engine!
Got this car in February, So nice, It doesn’t have too many buttons or make things touch screen only like new cars have these days. It’s simple and gets to the point, you want to drive this beast. I plan to replace the dash with a leather one, alr got barton shifter, throttle controller and planning on exhaust mbrp for now. Get this car, you won’t be disappointed
Just need to add the Dynamics package or T/A package and you get 275 series tires all the way around. Dynamics also gets you 6 piston Brembos and the flat bottom steering wheel. T/A gets you the Ram air hood and air catcher headlights.
I'm not really a Dodge fan but if someone handed me the key fob to this beast I wouldn't refuse it. The ongoing cost of gas and new back tires would be prohibitive, though.
I love these! I still would take my 5.0 over it cause I like engine better and handling and turning is nice but the styling and pure muscle car nature of Challengers is truly awesome!
@@Yoursistersazz “sister,” lol I’m a lady, and I don’t like getting used vehicles because I am always worried as to what the previous owner has done to the car but I may take your advice! :) thank you
@@lissa2679 take it from me, I spent 34G on a new accord because I wanted a fast sedan but I didn’t use my head and ended up trading in 4 months later for a 3 year old Jeep Grand Cherokee and loved it.
@@Yoursistersazz Been there lol! Back in the day my first car was a 2012 Honda EX-L Coupe brand new and traded it in for a stupid Nissan Juke 2 months later with 5k miles on it!! I believe you! I just hate used cars and sad that Dodge is following the eco-friendly EV vehicles coming up. But, you are right, probably better to get a used one with low mileage since it wont’t be my daily driver. Before we know it, all cars will be electric! Yay…..NOT!
Omg! Joe, thay is absolutely amazing and beautiful machine....Dodge has came a looooooooooong way. I absolutely LOVE the car. Definitely the charger all the way, mustangs well thats a different story. Joe, I didn't hear a chirp on those tires my good man. GO DODGE! Ohhhhhh by the way, Lori nice job filming on this review 👏
Pretty good price for the performance you get. I'm glad they went with 45 aspect ratio on the tires instead of super low profiles. Much better for the ride and when you hit pot holes.
I like the newer style of these challengers but I liked the pistol grip shifter that the older ones had and it was a main reason I decided to get a 6 speed 2013 challenger SRT. I still enjoy driving it until this day.
Mopar or no car! This would be the color I would pick with the red interior. Thanks for the ride Joe. One slip of the 👅@ 9:40, the Hellcat is a 6.2L. 🤫 Great review and nice job Lori!! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
I ordered my Challenger R/T Scat Pack shaker (Go Mango) with the dynamics package. It gives you the widest tire package available on the narrow body. 275's all around!...
You knows that this guy is the best car reviewer when he literally said the charger is better than the mustang... and we all knows you are a die hard mustang fan and proud owner.
I think the way my Stang is optioned, with PP1 etc., it would hold it's own against this car. It's got wider meats in the back, a little less HP and TQ, but definitely lighter than this Challenger. Depending on the driver, the Stang would likely beat it, not destroy it, but beat it in a drag. The torque curve in these S550's is amazing, so linear and rev to the moon! Not knocking the Mopars, they are great cars, love the true retro look to them, but being under tired in the rear and heavy AF, I'll take the Mustang GT! I love that the manual is still barely alive! SO much more fun than the boring automatic! BTW, this is coming from an old ass die hard Chevy guy!! LOL! Cheers!
2021 is the first year in history that the Challenger outsold the Mustang, you can argue statistics all you want but the Challenger has the best looks. Even the more recent model refreshes on the Mustang didn't matter. Style over performance. That being said, even the most tuned Hellcat would get rinsed by a GT350. All day.
Even though it's a Scat Pack I still love the Challengers. Truly keeping the classic muscle car silhouette and bringing enough performance for every trim and model that is available. I heard that Dodge will stop making the traditional V8 muscle cars and go electric/hybrid is that true? If it's true, these V8s gonna go up in value not long from now!
Ever since Joe picked up a Camaro he switched from picking on the Camaro to picking on the Mustang. He used to abuse Camaros in the early Raiti’s Rides videos. With that said, the challenger is an excellent muscle car. The front of the car is on the ugly side. It’s like having a girlfriend with a great bod but an ug mug. I like the look of it’s cousin the Charger a lot more. Excellent video as always. The camera person is out of this world. 👍
@@RaitisRides - No offense but I’ve been watching your muscle car videos since about the time you created your channel. You used to praise most Mustangs and zonk the heck out of most Camaros. The Camaro was the butt of most of your muscle car jokes. Now the tide has turned.
Without the sunroof, this car has saloon levels of rear headroom, looks and sounds mean and old school. My dream car because I want to carry my family in it. Go Mango, Sublime Green and Redline Red are awesome, to bad not all of them are always available, Plum Crazy and Indigo Blue are also great. Have to get the manual one.
I wish they'd offer a Jailbreak version of this model with leather interior and the Jailbreak wheels option. It would be the perfect muscle car. I don't need 707 hp.
I feel the Challenger is more of a muscle car for its straight line performance. On the other hand. The Mustang has become a sports car for it straight line performance and track prowess. If you watch IMSA GT4 racing or Trans Am sports car racing. You find Mustangs because of it's improved chassis to go with it straight line performance.
What a sweet rumble this ScatPak makes! The best attribute that this Challenger has over its rivals is that the reliability of it far exceeds either the Camaro or the Mustang according to JD Power, Consumer Reports, and Kelly Blue Book. I was in my senior year of high school when this baby was introduced, but most of us could ill afford the $3000 MSRP. 😉
@@RaitisRides I subscribe to CR, and in addition every mechanic I know that works on all types of cars says that overall, the Mustang is the best built of the three. Not every year, but overall. I was in a side impact accident two years ago as well. I was fine, but the body shop people told me if I had been in the Camaro or Challenger that I would have been hospitalized. Five Star Crash Rating on the Mustang. They said Ford has better fortified doors on the Mustang.
@@vulcanman64 Not according to CR, Edmunds, every mechanic I know, and Scotty Kilmer. I'll take their facts over your "facts'" any day. I'm not going to argue with you. Your opinion means nothing to me. Challengers aren't even built in the US anymore. Mustangs are still being built in Flat Rock, MI. Whatever makes you happy. I love Mustangs. I love Challengers, too. The Challenger is just a tad bigger than I want as a daily driver or I might have gotten it instead of my Mustang. Moving on. Have a Merry Christmas.
Mustang lover through and through (obviously 😀) but the Dodge Challenger (and Charger) .. have always been the next most desirable for me . . . totally different driving dynamic from Mustang but they are just pure muscle heritage 💪💪💪
i have a new orange 2021 Challenger RT/Scat Pack Shaker 6 speed Challenger and a 2020 dark green Challenger Hellcat 6 speed. both these cars are more fun than should be legal. controlling rear tire spin on the Scat Pack is a task. controlling rear tire spin on the Hellcat is not possible.
Great vid as always!!! And I’m really contemplating on getting a hellcat before the prices go up but I’m worried in 10-15 years it will be hard to get/find replacement parts since dodge is moving to ev.is that something I should be worried about ?
Since dodge is the people’s brand I have a feeling you’ll be able to have replacement parts for decades to come. They may be switching to EVs but they won’t forget the cars that made them who they are today. I’m thinking of trading my m240i for a manual challenger myself.. 😏
I had a 2018 B5 Blue Scat Pack with the automatic but now have a 2021 Pitch Black T/A 392. The manual may be a little slower but the feel is so much better with the manual. Plus the 3.90 gears in the back makes it pull harder off the line than the 3.09 ones you get with the automatic. The T/A package also comes with 275 width tires compared to the 245s on the standard Scat Pack which makes a big difference as well. They should have never decided to put 245s on any Scat Pack. As for Mustangs and Camaros, they stopped being muscle cars years ago now. They are more like sports cars now. The Challenger is the last true muscle car in my opinion.
I always like the Challenger, but I’m a Ford guy, so I’d go with a Mach 1, if I were looking for a comprisable car with the aforementioned Challenger. If I got what I really wanted, it would be a Ford Shelby GT500 Hennessy Venom 1000.
I love your videos. Would love to give a feedback tho. Please add a picture of the exact model, colour, car etc when you refer another car recent of 40 years old.
Wow!!!!! I'm So Totally In Love With This Car, Also I Will Get This Car After I Done The Driver's Test While I Still Can, Even It's My Dream Car For Sure, Thanks Joe For Reviewing This Best Car From Dodge.
I've been binge watching these Challenger videos and I noticed that, over time, Joe's become more accepting of people who decide to keep the shipping guards on their cars lol
We work for a bunch of different brands but the funniest name is a gm paint that we do here is called pull me over red. Been here for years and I still get a laugh when that program comes up.
You can’t go wrong with a challenger or 6 speed manual transmission. Especially what’s under the hood a NA v8 these cars will still be icons for years they will never be forgotten. The retro styling of the challenger has aged so well it will never look old or boring
No replacement for displacement!
yeah it's one of the few modern cars that actually did the retro look right, I'm not even into muscle cars and I can appreciate that
@@Toymonkeyjrand keeping the car as unaerodynamic as possible, it barely evolved.
@@SgawCules ? probably the most aerodynamic muscle car, every edge is smoothed besides the bumper, have you seen old muscle cars?
@@Toymonkeyjr when you compare the mustang to the Dodge in terms of shape, the mustang is more aerodynamic
Man, I’ve always loved the challenger and how the design philosophy keeps it true to self. Keep ‘em coming Joe!
You got it brother
Damn shut up
"Is the 2021 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack manual a BETTER muscle car than a Mustang GT?" The short answer is "yes" because it is the only one that still has the old muscle car look. As far as an overall sports car vs a Mustang, it comes down to preferences. Let me explain. I have a 2018 Manual Mustang GT. I've raced three Scat Packs (Two Challengers, One Charger) and beat them all pretty good. They ALL had me off the line, then I caught and passed them. The Low End Torque the Scat Pack has is unreal. I catch them seconds later because the Mustang has a steady increase in the higher gears and revs, where the Scats seemed to level off, plus the additional weight they were carrying didn't help. They have 485 hp stock, which is a ridiculous amount of power, however my Mustang seemed to maintain traction better. The best old school muscle car looks = Challengers win easily. There is nothing out there that looks like them. They're beautiful to me. That's not saying Mustangs and Camaros are ugly. They aren't. They don't look old school, either. The Mustang had some of that look with the Fifth Generation, but that changed in 2015. You want room for people and gear, don't care about handling, and want gobbs of low end torque, get the Challenger. You want to drive something American, sporty, fast, and that handles good, but you can't afford a Corvette, get the Mustang or Camaro. There really isn't a wrong answer here. Also, EVERYTHING is better as a Manual. That's all I have ever owned. Save the Manuals!
Thanks fir your awesome detailed comment.
@@RaitisRides Thank you for your videos.
The way I always read it online and personally saw it as is that the Challenger is a great long distance GT car, the Camaro is a great track car, and the Mustang is a blend of both between those two. That theme seems to continue from the Scat Pack, GT, and SS all the way up to the Hellcat Redeye, GT500, and ZL1
@@Justin_GFMFor what it's worth, I agree with you 100%. You put them in perspective perfectly.
had a 16 challenger scat, 2016 mustang gt manual, and currently charger scat 2021. the 6.4 is far more enjoyable to me than the 5.0
It has been almost 12+ years and the body hasn't even changed MUCH. and i still like it.
I am right there with you!
I truly think the 392 manual is a perfect street car. Every hellcat I see racing on the street they are almost useless, constantly losing traction and trying to kill it's owner. Unless you wanna do 90moh roll race. I love the 392 and Camaro because of the manual, pushrod setup.
I had a widebody 392 and was still always losing traction lol. Not bad in a straight line but it was terrible in the corners. I couldn't even imagine trying to daily a hellcat lol
I totally agree with you matt!
It need sticker rubber than those P Zeros
I like the Scat better overall but DOHC>>>pushrod
@@slimv3.162 did it understeer or what?
I love my 2021 scat pack, many smiles per gallon of gasoline, three months ago you helped me decide between Mustang gt and my Dodge, thanks Joe for the excellent work you share with us!!!!
That’s so awesome Martin! Thanks for sharing that!
Sounds like you made the wrong decision.🤣
@@TheEnd-eg6wq says somebody that has neither
@@jayhh9370 I have a 2012 GT/CS, 6 speed, if you can't comprehend a sentence don't respond to it, peasant.
@@TheEnd-eg6wq comprehend a sentence? ur telling somebody they made a mistake for a buy a car THEY liked ? Peasant ? what are u ? Let me guess ur 40? gtfo Lmaoo
Yes yes yes and yeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!! I want every single version of the Challenger before the automotive industry goes all electric!!!! Absolute and sheer madness those Dodge brothers have with horsepower and torque!!! I love them all!!! Put this one on the truck to Massachusetts for me too please and thank you Joe!!! Great review as usual!!! Literally nobody does it like you and Lori!!!
I will have them send it right to you!
@@RaitisRides yeah man!!! Mopar. Or. No. Car 🚗 💨💨💨💨💨 by the way man, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the 22 Civic Sport!!!
@@mariowhyte2816 Great job! Congrats man. You are really going to like it!
Mustangs aren’t muscle cars. So yes
Love the Challenger platform! The Triple Nickel color, 6-speed manual, and 485HP 6.2L V8! The Scatpack is a true modern day muscle car!
I am so glad that i could share this MOPAR with you Chris!
6.4 V8
Had a 17 scat pack shaker 392 with the 6 speed. It’s a great daily driver and still has enough power to get you into trouble. Awesome machine.
Thanks for sharing that great ownership input Kurt!
@@RaitisRides Thank you for all these great videos!
The challenger is a more usable daily driver to live with. Better ride and more space than the Mustang and the Camaro.
It’s a no brainer for the street.
I love seeing the pure enjoyment when you go on throttle. It makes me laugh and smile! Love your reviews!
Thanks for letting me being it to you!
I’m Just Now Finding Out That ScatPacks Come In Manual🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽😂😂😂
Just sooooo much fun every time I’m behind the wheel. Always makes me smile 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
This is the muscle car to have, hands down.
Always enjoy your reviews of the V8 Challenger/Charger/Durango - you know what’s it’s like to be part of the Brotherhood of Muscle 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
And a special tip of the 🎩 going out to Lori for making it all look great!
Thanks so awesome Bob! Thanks for taking the ride with me!
Man, I love the Challengers! I hope to own one of those someday. Thanks for reviewing this, man!
I believe in you! You can do it!
You been doing good job with these performance monsters! Keep it up!
Thanks man for saying that! I love bringing them to you!
Smiles per mile man, great review as always JoE! Sweet spot in the Challenger line up, and the Dynamics Package gives you 275s with the 6 piston Brembos in a non-wide body. Great streetable power with the Scat Trim.
Thanks for letting me share it all with you!
How do you get the Dynamics Package? Gotta be put on by the factory? And can you just put on 275 rear tires without messing anything up?
love raitis rides. lived in south florida before i moved to texas in 2015. he has that east coast enthusiasm when reviewing these cars and i love it
It's relatively marginal but I prefer the visibility of the challenger. The Camaro is the worst hands down, mustang in the relative middle. But I just love the challenger look and shape. Thanks for this review Joe.
This is so true!
Benefits I see with a mustang gt is the base model MSRP for what a challenger RT MSRP for and they take regular gas
I love his reaction when he started pushing the gas ,keep it up bro
Heck yeah! Thanks man!
I just picked up my white knuckle scat pack manual challenger from Jerry Ulm Dodge in Tampa. The car is awesome!
Congrats man! You did it right!
I'm glad that n/a V8 w/ m/t muscle cars still exist
Who know for how much longer.
Long live Mopar 6speed manual transmission classic muscle car!
I’ve had 3 Mustang GT’s including my current car, a 21’ GT PP1 in Oxford White with Showstopper interior, which I love and an 07’ C6 Z06 in Lemans Blue and I’ve loved them all. But there’s sometimes about this Challenger in a manual that I really, really dig. When we have the discussion of which car is faster to 60 or in the 1/4, Camaro, the Stang or either of the Dodges, we are splitting hairs snd how often will you actually line it up? To me, cars are about emotion and how they make me feel when I drive them. This Challenger sounds great and it has the Tremec, which my GT, sadly does not… The C6 Z06 had a shit ton of low end torque. This Challenger does too. And for street driving, that torque provides all the emotion one could ask for. This manual Challanger with that 6.4 is talking to me!
Joe, I have a 12 GT but this challenger checks all the boxes for a great street car. The Tremec over the MT-82, badges, interior, screen display, drivetrain. I had a 70 challenger and a super bee and this car carries on the tradition.
Did you watch Rosy?
No I haven’t. Video?
Well done 👍. The back of the seat manual lever makes it much faster to adjust the seat.
Yes, and I believe Raiti forgot this beast has a backseat with no backdoors.
Great point!
Well, the manual in the Challenger might be stronger, however, the Mustang shifts smoother in my opinion. Also, I like the room in the Challenger, but you can really feel the weight of the car compared to others in its class. Great review nevertheless.
There's really no other cars in it's class. All other coupes are tiny nowadays
@@jizzyjake6783 That's somewhat true, however, the Mustang and Camaro are it's rival although they aren't truly muscle cars in the traditional sense.
@@lloydhudson9032 yeah I know and in reality they've all become larger but so have I haha
@@jizzyjake6783 Lol, I totally get it.
Mustang and Camaro would handle and drive better, but the Challenger would be in style and cruising.
5.0 all day! Gotta respect these though they’re 🔥
5.0 all day indeed
Nothing wrong with that!
yes sir Tim!
If we’re gonna modify it, 5.0 all day. It’s got WAY more tuner potential. If we’re keeping it stock, I’d go with the Scat. They’ve just got more soul when you drive them. That 6.4 is 1 peach of an engine!
Got this car in February, So nice, It doesn’t have too many buttons or make things touch screen only like new cars have these days. It’s simple and gets to the point, you want to drive this beast. I plan to replace the dash with a leather one, alr got barton shifter, throttle controller and planning on exhaust mbrp for now. Get this car, you won’t be disappointed
Just need to add the Dynamics package or T/A package and you get 275 series tires all the way around. Dynamics also gets you 6 piston Brembos and the flat bottom steering wheel. T/A gets you the Ram air hood and air catcher headlights.
That’s a great suggestion!
I'm not really a Dodge fan but if someone handed me the key fob to this beast I wouldn't refuse it.
The ongoing cost of gas and new back tires would be prohibitive, though.
I like the way that you think!
I love the American vehicles. Thanks for the great videos Joe and Lori....Merry Christmas.
Awesome Mike! Merry Christmas
I love these! I still would take my 5.0 over it cause I like engine better and handling and turning is nice but the styling and pure muscle car nature of Challengers is truly awesome!
Very good way of putting it!
I LOVE this car!! Hoping that I pay my Charger off in two years and get a Challenger to add to the family before it goes electric! What a beast!
Save your money brother wait and get a used one with 20,000 miles on her
@@Yoursistersazz “sister,” lol I’m a lady, and I don’t like getting used vehicles because I am always worried as to what the previous owner has done to the car but I may take your advice! :) thank you
@@lissa2679 take it from me, I spent 34G on a new accord because I wanted a fast sedan but I didn’t use my head and ended up trading in 4 months later for a 3 year old Jeep Grand Cherokee and loved it.
@@Yoursistersazz Been there lol! Back in the day my first car was a 2012 Honda EX-L Coupe brand new and traded it in for a stupid Nissan Juke 2 months later with 5k miles on it!! I believe you! I just hate used cars and sad that Dodge is following the eco-friendly EV vehicles coming up. But, you are right, probably better to get a used one with low mileage since it wont’t be my daily driver. Before we know it, all cars will be electric! Yay…..NOT!
Hey Joe, how are you today? Thanks for this awesome review of this muscle car!
Hi Adrian! Thanks for being in the live Q&A last night.
You’re not yourself until you’ve had a scat pack I love the sound of those 🥰
They are a beast!
Just traded in my Mustang for a Scatpack. I love it. Not as fast, but it is the ultimate muscle car.
Congrats man!
I’m definitely considering buying one of these next year. I really wanna get one of these. This is a great review as always
You will love it for sure!
A heated steering wheel in a challenger now that’s iconic 🥰🥰🙂
There you go!
I have 2020 scat with heated wheel and seats along with cooled seats..i love my manual
Just bought a 21 scat pack. I love my life.
Heck yeah man! Congrats!
Omg! Joe, thay is absolutely amazing and beautiful machine....Dodge has came a looooooooooong way. I absolutely LOVE the car. Definitely the charger all the way, mustangs well thats a different story. Joe, I didn't hear a chirp on those tires my good man. GO DODGE! Ohhhhhh by the way, Lori nice job filming on this review 👏
Pretty good price for the performance you get. I'm glad they went with 45 aspect ratio on the tires instead of super low profiles. Much better for the ride and when you hit pot holes.
This is so ver true Oliver!
Big Zonk to that deadpedal!! I absolutely love my 2017 premium plus package RT, but I cant stand that dead pedal! As always, great review my man!
I agree with you Rik! Thanks for having my back!
Best challenger to buy for the money.prefered the 6 speed pistol grip shifter it use to come with.that made it the ultimate experience.
I like the newer style of these challengers but I liked the pistol grip shifter that the older ones had and it was a main reason I decided to get a 6 speed 2013 challenger SRT. I still enjoy driving it until this day.
This is so very true Morris!
That is really cool Spencer!
I have 2012 gt/cs, I have had zero issues with my manual transmission, 88kmiles now, everyone thats drove it thought it was very smooth.
That is awesome!
Triple Nickel. Loved it.
Dodge has the best names for their colors.
Mopar or no car! This would be the color I would pick with the red interior. Thanks for the ride Joe. One slip of the 👅@ 9:40, the Hellcat is a 6.2L. 🤫 Great review and nice job Lori!! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Dang Larry you are good!
@@RaitisRides I don’t mean to nitpick. 🙏🏼
@@LS1007 not a problem my friend. I actually appreciate it!
Thank you Lori for working it like a champ
She really is the best!
I have the 2018 TA 392. It comes with the 6 piston Brembo.
Very cool
Zonk for not removing the yellow shipping protectors yourself Joe! I’m kidding of course, love your channel!
You’re freaking hilarious David.
I ordered my Challenger R/T Scat Pack shaker (Go Mango) with the dynamics package. It gives you the widest tire package available on the narrow body. 275's all around!...
You knows that this guy is the best car reviewer when he literally said the charger is better than the mustang... and we all knows you are a die hard mustang fan and proud owner.
I think the way my Stang is optioned, with PP1 etc., it would hold it's own against this car. It's got wider meats in the back, a little less HP and TQ, but definitely lighter than this Challenger. Depending on the driver, the Stang would likely beat it, not destroy it, but beat it in a drag. The torque curve in these S550's is amazing, so linear and rev to the moon! Not knocking the Mopars, they are great cars, love the true retro look to them, but being under tired in the rear and heavy AF, I'll take the Mustang GT! I love that the manual is still barely alive! SO much more fun than the boring automatic! BTW, this is coming from an old ass die hard Chevy guy!! LOL! Cheers!
It is great to have the variety!
2021 is the first year in history that the Challenger outsold the Mustang, you can argue statistics all you want but the Challenger has the best looks. Even the more recent model refreshes on the Mustang didn't matter. Style over performance.
That being said, even the most tuned Hellcat would get rinsed by a GT350. All day.
welp... glad I got mine when I did.. manual.. white knuckle, dynamic package which has the 6 pot brembos, ...oh yeah and "Brass Monkey" alloys.
Now that sounds fantastic!
Everytime I do a pull in my Scat Pack, I remember why I love MOPAR so much!
Have the exact model but went with that white knuckle, been enjoying every mile in it!
So very cool Terence! Thanks for sharing that ownership input!
How does he spit this info for 20 - 25 minutes straight though 🔥
Thanks for saying that! I love sharing my passion for cars.
Thank you Laurie! Just traded my 2022 Camry TRD for a Dodge Challenger RT Scat Pack. 👍🏽
Lori is the best!
Wow this dodge challenger is a beast!
ON THROTTLE YEAH!!!!!!!
I like the way you think!
Even though it's a Scat Pack I still love the Challengers. Truly keeping the classic muscle car silhouette and bringing enough performance for every trim and model that is available.
I heard that Dodge will stop making the traditional V8 muscle cars and go electric/hybrid is that true? If it's true, these V8s gonna go up in value not long from now!
yep in 2023 they are making an electric muscle car and canceling the challenger and charger
@@willkaufman8208 oof that's gonna hurt all of the V8 muscle car lovers ngl
@@Raven-uu7lb fr it’s gunna be sad
The change is coming!
@@willkaufman8208 exactly
Raiti, If you had the choice of putting this car or a new 6.2L Camaro SS with the six speed Tremec in your garage, which would you take, and why?
I think I’m going Scat Pack. I love the way it makes you feel from behind the wheel.
@Freddy Eriksson experienced both and deft going with Camaro
Ever since Joe picked up a Camaro he switched from picking on the Camaro to picking on the Mustang. He used to abuse Camaros in the early Raiti’s Rides videos. With that said, the challenger is an excellent muscle car. The front of the car is on the ugly side. It’s like having a girlfriend with a great bod but an ug mug. I like the look of it’s cousin the Charger a lot more. Excellent video as always. The camera person is out of this world. 👍
Not true one bit. I love my Shelby & the Mustang GT. I’m just having a little fun.
@@RaitisRides - No offense but I’ve been watching your muscle car videos since about the time you created your channel. You used to praise most Mustangs and zonk the heck out of most Camaros. The Camaro was the butt of most of your muscle car jokes. Now the tide has turned.
All I want for Christmas is a hemi! 😁 Great job Joe!
I like the way you think Michael!
Owned several they are truly awesome cars and very fun to drive. Great review
I appreciate you sharing that great ownership input!
I like all 3 American muscle but my favourite is Shelby GT500. Nice review like always 👍
Could you imagine having one of each!
Without the sunroof, this car has saloon levels of rear headroom, looks and sounds mean and old school. My dream car because I want to carry my family in it. Go Mango, Sublime Green and Redline Red are awesome, to bad not all of them are always available, Plum Crazy and Indigo Blue are also great. Have to get the manual one.
Just get it with the dynamics package. 275s, bigger brakes, etc...You even get the flat bottom steering wheel.
This is very true!
This one has that
My local dealer is finally getting an RT Scat Pack with a 6 speed. I’ve been waiting for a manual somewhere for a while.
That is really awesome Dale! They are so hard to find.
@@RaitisRides it sold! They have a go mango RT manual! I have been looking hard! I have to go to another city for it!
Can't believe dodge actually made a car that
a) was good enough to goe produced for 15 years and
B) still look good after all that time
Tell me about it! The Challenger and Chargers have been sales successes!
Man. That car looks good. Love that engine
Same here for sure!
I wish they'd offer a Jailbreak version of this model with leather interior and the Jailbreak wheels option. It would be the perfect muscle car. I don't need 707 hp.
That would be such a great idea!
9:42 The Hellcat engine's displacement is 6.2L's not 6.4Ls
Great review, Brother!
Thanks Richard! You’re the man!
Can You Make 2022 Subaru Ascent
I will track one down for you!
I just bought me a brand new Challenger and it looks exactly like this one.
Great choice!
50 years from now a challenger scat pack with the original "yellow guards" is going to be worth all the money 🤣😅
It's all in the guards!
I feel the Challenger is more of a muscle car for its straight line performance. On the other hand. The Mustang has become a sports car for it straight line performance and track prowess. If you watch IMSA GT4 racing or Trans Am sports car racing. You find Mustangs because of it's improved chassis to go with it straight line performance.
I just can’t call a Mustang a sports car.
Nice ride Joe .... love those wheels .....
Thanks Rich! It goes well with the color of the car
Got a 22 triple nickle scat with the 275 tires ordered.love the video.
That is so fantastic Bobby! Congrats man!
Got my 22 triple nickle scat pack after only 6 weeks. Ordered few extra packages including 275 tire.
Ahh the good old Dodge Challenger Now that is a real mopar car there. Raiti hope you have a wonderful day and keep up the great work!!!;)
Sane to you man! I am right there with you!
Merry Christmas Joe and Lori!! Do you think you will be able to review the 2022 Lexus ES 300h with heads up display in the new year?
I will do my best to make it happen Dan! Merry Christmas bud!
Mmmmmm hell yeah buddy that is awesome all the way around!!!! Sound feel smell!!!!! You can't replace it with an Ev specially if it doesn't stop!!
So very true John!
Joe, out here in CA a lot of ppl leave the yellow shipping guards on. I agree with you, it takes away from the car.
“Let’s talk about what’s going on here” first greatest car review TH-cam channel . We need that quote on a shirt 👕
Lori & I are actually talking to a graphic designer.
What a sweet rumble this ScatPak makes! The best attribute that this Challenger has over its rivals is that the reliability of it far exceeds either the Camaro or the Mustang according to JD Power, Consumer Reports, and Kelly Blue Book. I was in my senior year of high school when this baby was introduced, but most of us could ill afford the $3000 MSRP. 😉
That’s so cool David! Very good points about the CR rating.
@@RaitisRides I subscribe to CR, and in addition every mechanic I know that works on all types of cars says that overall, the Mustang is the best built of the three. Not every year, but overall. I was in a side impact accident two years ago as well. I was fine, but the body shop people told me if I had been in the Camaro or Challenger that I would have been hospitalized. Five Star Crash Rating on the Mustang. They said Ford has better fortified doors on the Mustang.
@@thullraven1 the reliability of the challenger far exceeds the mustang. Fact.
@@vulcanman64 Not according to CR, Edmunds, every mechanic I know, and Scotty Kilmer. I'll take their facts over your "facts'" any day. I'm not going to argue with you. Your opinion means nothing to me. Challengers aren't even built in the US anymore. Mustangs are still being built in Flat Rock, MI. Whatever makes you happy. I love Mustangs. I love Challengers, too. The Challenger is just a tad bigger than I want as a daily driver or I might have gotten it instead of my Mustang. Moving on. Have a Merry Christmas.
@@thullraven1 Ford has always skimped out on the Mustang but they have gotten a little better and who the fuck is Scotty Kilmer?
Joe, should I trade in my R/T 345 for the 392 Scat Pack?
I would pull the trigger!
R/T is where I started and I went scat pack a few months later lol
Any day of the week with no regrets!
Hopefully my 2021 WD scatpack arrives to Jerry Ulm soon. Can’t wait!!!!
Fingers crossed man!
No, I’m not the type of guy that compare sizes with friends but I love this car!!
Mustang lover through and through (obviously 😀) but the Dodge Challenger (and Charger) .. have always been the next most desirable for me . . . totally different driving dynamic from Mustang but they are just pure muscle heritage 💪💪💪
So true! Competition is a very good thing!
i have a new orange 2021 Challenger RT/Scat Pack Shaker 6 speed Challenger and a 2020 dark green Challenger Hellcat 6 speed. both these cars are more fun than should be legal. controlling rear tire spin on the Scat Pack is a task. controlling rear tire spin on the Hellcat is not possible.
Great vid as always!!! And I’m really contemplating on getting a hellcat before the prices go up but I’m worried in 10-15 years it will be hard to get/find replacement parts since dodge is moving to ev.is that something I should be worried about ?
Since dodge is the people’s brand I have a feeling you’ll be able to have replacement parts for decades to come. They may be switching to EVs but they won’t forget the cars that made them who they are today. I’m thinking of trading my m240i for a manual challenger myself.. 😏
I don't think it will be difficult! There will be plenty of companies to make parts for them.
I totally agree with you!
Finally another manual im watching ty joe
Thanks Paul! They are so hard to find!
I had a 2018 B5 Blue Scat Pack with the automatic but now have a 2021 Pitch Black T/A 392. The manual may be a little slower but the feel is so much better with the manual. Plus the 3.90 gears in the back makes it pull harder off the line than the 3.09 ones you get with the automatic. The T/A package also comes with 275 width tires compared to the 245s on the standard Scat Pack which makes a big difference as well. They should have never decided to put 245s on any Scat Pack. As for Mustangs and Camaros, they stopped being muscle cars years ago now. They are more like sports cars now. The Challenger is the last true muscle car in my opinion.
I always like the Challenger, but I’m a Ford guy, so I’d go with a Mach 1, if I were looking for a comprisable car with the aforementioned Challenger. If I got what I really wanted, it would be a Ford Shelby GT500 Hennessy Venom 1000.
Dodge over Ford any day
You have great taste Jason!
@@RaitisRides thank you!
That sound!! Oh my! Wish it had a quad exhaust though
Same here!
I think they did manual back on the drivers seat to make the back seats quicker to access
I just wish they didn’t.
I love your videos. Would love to give a feedback tho. Please add a picture of the exact model, colour, car etc when you refer another car recent of 40 years old.
Thanks for the feedback!
Wow!!!!! I'm So Totally In Love With This Car, Also I Will Get This Car After I Done The Driver's Test While I Still Can, Even It's My Dream Car For Sure, Thanks Joe For Reviewing This Best Car From Dodge.
That’s so wonderful man!
I've been binge watching these Challenger videos and I noticed that, over time, Joe's become more accepting of people who decide to keep the shipping guards on their cars lol
We work for a bunch of different brands but the funniest name is a gm paint that we do here is called pull me over red. Been here for years and I still get a laugh when that program comes up.
That said my favorite color on these is f8 green by far.
Thanks for sharing that Steve!
That is a great color.
More into the all round performance of the Stang...I think the Challenger looks good but not into ocean liners. I do love that it's manual.
I like what you did there!
Keep the yellow guards Joe. 👌💛