That also holds true with pump gears in automatic transmissions they're porous so cleaning them don't need to be done. If they're good put them back in.
"Jets make black streaks" - Ahh... every time I look up, they are leaving white bellowing clouds behind them that eventually turn into cloud cover! Don't see no black streaks. P.S. These are awesome, thanks Ed, thanks Barry!
If you want to understand race engines, fuel, timing, ignition, ect, ect! Buy Reher Morrisons race engine book! I have one that’s old, because I saw it in many championship engine shops! It will definitely help you understand what Mr Ed means!
Man i look forward to seeing these videos with Ed! I feel like a little kid sitting criss cross apple sauce right in front of him. Has to be some of my favorite videos i see on youtube!
Ed: Thanks for your answer again. I think I have REALIZED the issue. It's with the limitation of the cam shaft. I can do only so much. There is a principle that was mentioned on another video, which was that I can't "over drive" the cam shaft. In a nut shell, the cam is limited to its design. I can't squeeze blood from a turnip. I will stop making a fool out of myself. See ya!
A smart man once told me if you have to ask you can't afford it he also threw in in another speed cost money how fast do you want to go it was a good lesson
Also government military vehicles are exempt from the EPA regulations diesel vehicles have no emissions equipment installed no DEF fluid are particle filters!!
New subscriber ❤ ! I have a 351 Windsor , early 90s , it came with a cam I haven't yet degree . It has Edelbrock Performer heads. Any idea on a good set up for 500 HP ? Going in a 89 T-Bird , I would like to keep it fuel injected lol
Ed: I have a sbc 350 block with a Crower cam and 170 CC Summit Racing heads. My problem is with rocker adjustment. I am running the 1.5:1 ratio rockers. The Crower lifters and cam. The 7.765 push rods at a 1/4 turn on the rocker nuts. It doesn't run very well with anything else adjustment wise or parts wise. Can I make a positive difference by adding that combination with a 1.52 rocker on the intake side only, or should I just add the 7.800 push rods to all 16 valves? Can you help? Wondering if I should try that!
Thanks for your question, it might be a bit before I can ask Ed, also we like answering more general questions that many can relate to, but when it’s super specific build questions, I’m not sure this is the right forum. I’ll see what I can do.
Speaking of higher nickel content a lot of manufacturers have problems with the slip yolks in the drive rear driveline hanging up make a bump noise or feel when you take off from a stop sign. Slip jokes with higher nickel content fixed that problem plus some special lube.
I have a Chevy 350 that's low compression, gets hot fast, looses half second at 200 degrees, i put half race gas and it wasn't a tick faster, but it never lost anything when hot lapping
I have always been a Ford guy so this was very enlightening to me because I was never clear on the Windsor vs the Cleveland and I understand it better now but unfortunately I just can’t keep it in my mind for very long so the beauty of it is that I can look up this video and refresh my mind so Thankyou Barry and Ed and like I always say and I am sure you hear this all the time but I could listen to you guys all day long 😀🇨🇦
A Farmall MD is likely the tractor mentioned starting on gas and switching to diesel after it was warm, though I think International made a couple tractors like that at the time (McCormick WD9 might be another).
Maybe an international UD-18? Back in the 1930’s and 40’s battery/electric start want up to the task and several companies worked on developing this setup… 👍
@@BarryTsGarage I think the UD18 is a power unit engine, but I'm more familiar with other brands of antique tractors. I wouldn't be surprised if the MD was International's most popular diesel tractor that started on gas at the time, but an IH collector would know better.
I'd like to build a diesel to burn methanol or ethanol, maybe mix a bit of nitro with it. Do some heavy mods to the heads, larger valves. Better intake and add a spark plug. Drop the compression to around 15:1, lighten the crank a bit. Make it more aerodynamic. Maybe do some cutting and brazing on the head. Polish the rods and crank lighten the pistons remove a couple pounds from the engine. And balance it well. Possibly use arp studs. Modify a distributor to run from the injection pump gear. If a 4bt Cummings possibly use a old Chevy distributor shorten the shaft, mill a adapter to fit the block then the distributor fitting in using a spline drive. With a compound turbo and air to water intercooler methanol to cool with dry ice for chilling the intake charge to possibly 50°F with a triple disc, 12" clutch, custom disc clutch with a modified flywheel, light as possible. Use a center force dual friction pressure plate with extra weight on the fingers, only about 10 grams each. If it works out, having intake runners rated in place possibly pour in aluminum to fill and gaps to allow porting to transition. Use a crank trigger to fire injectors in the runners . With 3 per runner one top, bottom and one at the top of the individual throttle valves, with a large 6-8" plenum with a 68-70 mm throttle per runner. And smooth and polishvthr block inside and out, to improve oil flow and return. Epoxy coat, or possibly ceramic coat the block with ceramic insulation and low friction coatings on the engine parts, coat the piston dome with the insulation coating, along with the exhaust ports, intake ports. It would be awesome to modify the injection system to operate as a direct injection, using the heat plug holes as spark plug holes the only thing more awesome, would be a 6-71Detroit set up like this. The screaming jimmy would be howling. Swap a 8v92 blower on the 6-71, with a twin compound turbo setup, 3cyl per turbo pairs large turbo, with a slightly larger turbo, per 3 cyl. On ethanol it would be awesome. With a splash of nitro it would be insane a two stroke 450 cid turbo monster drunk and on nitro, insane, connect that to a lenco 5 speed maybe in a land speed torpedo, or truck a chopied tube frame c5500 Chevy everything fiberglass, carbon fiber, except the cab, and alot of it replaced with carbon fiber, door skins, aluminum floor, chopped top. With a modified 1ton bed, modified 22.5" aluminum rims and modified tires, maybe turn down the rims to accept 22" automobile tires. The rims weighing about 1/3 the original weight. And use a 1 ton axel, with 10 lug adapters, and run only a single rim, dual rims is too heavy. Maybe produce 3200hp with 2500tq. In a 3500 lb truck with two gear vendor od units, a 3.73 gear should be equal to roughly a 2.08:1 plus the large diameter tires, making about a 1.55:1 , split the 5gears twice in theory, or its a simple 7speed. A push to 60 mph would help the clutch it should easily do 250 mph depending on aero a torpedo possibly 300+ but imagine casting an aluminum block and head, a block weighing roughly 100 lbs near 1/8 of the iron. Forging a crank and rods from 4340, about half the weight of diesel, and mill a girdle from 4340 going across the mains, pan rail, to the outside or the pan rail, then similar across the head, with 1.25" bar go in up from the mains to the heads, the 1" thick around the head rails with bars crossing and meeting the risers from the mains. With about .030" gap using . 625" studs in the risers. Tq to 85 ft lb. This clamping the heads to the mains. Use coils capable of nearly .150 amps at 80kv with 12mm solid plug wires, with shielded and grounded covers to reduce the emi. And possibly build a rotor with copper contacts with nickel plating. .125" thick and the little springy contact using a braided copper wire equal to 14 gauge wire. Silver soldered to the contacts . The distributor cap using copper contacts with thick nickel plating. With extra large contact area to make the current path much more efficient. Possibly use copper silver plated with nickel plating for protection. The silver will do most of the current carrying. Being a 4cyl make the distributor conductors about .750" wide..125" thick. With..250" post for the wired. With two coils producing nearly a 1/4 amp the distributor cap should handle it. Sorry to ramble , have a awesome day!
Who’s the bad man behind you. Running late to watch Ed’s video. Love watching the Man himself giving some Knowledge out. Love Ed’s smile when he’s letting a secret out. Thank again to Ed. PS did you do a walk around his Man Cave
Thanks John! I have yet to do a man cave tour - let’s just say Ed has some “projects” in the way of a good presentation at the moment. I promise to ask Ed again this fall… 👍
My 1938 John Deere two cylinder has one gallon fuel tank and a 12 gallon kerosene tank startes on the small tank get it hot switch it over to kerosene works great.
What a great video. I learned something close my favorite Engines to work on. The first engine overworked on was a 230 inch. Dodge sad head when I was 15. I've done a lot of Chevy's Fords and Mopor products over the years. Those are fun to work on. Keep up the good videos
Watched dirt track in or around LA in 1963 and four. The runners with new engines would get faster and faster Then as races go by and days, they get slower and slower. Then someone else would have a new engine and they went fast.
M Diesel, Farmall 400 and farmall 450 use the gas to start and change over to run on diesel. My father had one on the farm (400 diesel). I currently own it. Neat engineering, right side of the engine has the points, distributor, carburetor, left side of engine has injection pump, diesel filters etc. While running on gas you move a lever forward which disables the spark on the gas side and open the injection for diesel.
Hey what's the best thing for a person who wants to learn about machinist work for drag racing can do or do I suggest they do in order to get the best information on the subject
@@BarryTsGarage it's a way to cheat folks have made a lot of money doing this they buy a junkyard motor and they run windshield washer fluid in the intake works for diesel or gas its water meth injection
That also holds true with pump gears in automatic transmissions they're porous so cleaning them don't need to be done. If they're good put them back in.
"Jets make black streaks" - Ahh... every time I look up, they are leaving white bellowing clouds behind them that eventually turn into cloud cover! Don't see no black streaks.
P.S. These are awesome, thanks Ed, thanks Barry!
Early jets , including B-52's ( not now ) the engines were much less efficient and black streaked at low speeds ,,, !
Thanks! 🙏
Thank you
351c had the same mounts and bell housing as the 302. The 351M and 400 had the 460 stuff.
Exactly right
You are correct. I have previously caught a wrong statement from this guy.
Thanks for the clarification on the notched rods.
👍👍
Thanks, Ed for your comments and answers. Your work is great!
Thank you too!
If you want to understand race engines, fuel, timing, ignition, ect, ect! Buy Reher Morrisons race engine book! I have one that’s old, because I saw it in many championship engine shops! It will definitely help you understand what Mr Ed means!
thanks!
Man i look forward to seeing these videos with Ed! I feel like a little kid sitting criss cross apple sauce right in front of him. Has to be some of my favorite videos i see on youtube!
Well, thank you! We will do some more!
Ed Smith is great to listen to!
Thanks!
@@BarryTsGarageI know someone who has the same name, I gotta show this video to him lol
Great video. Love the Q&A format. Keep em coming!
Thank you for the feedback, and it’s pretty consistent with other. I have been getting so we plan to do more! Great to have you along.
$20 an Answer? Ed’s cheap lol. We love Ed. Keep them coming Barry Thank You
Thank you so much
I could listen to him talk all day!!
👍👍
351C has a small bell housing. 302 bell housing will fit a cleaveland
Ed: Thanks for your answer again. I think I have REALIZED the issue. It's with the limitation of the cam shaft. I can do only so much. There is a principle that was mentioned on another video, which was that I can't "over drive" the cam shaft. In a nut shell, the cam is limited to its design. I can't squeeze blood from a turnip. I will stop making a fool out of myself. See ya!
A smart man once told me if you have to ask you can't afford it he also threw in in another speed cost money how fast do you want to go it was a good lesson
Absolutely right 👍
Edward how come Ford was winning everything from 1963 to 1969.... Could it be that they have badass engines
Haha I’ll ask Ed!
50 years ago, really
Also government military vehicles are exempt from the EPA regulations diesel vehicles have no emissions equipment installed no DEF fluid are particle filters!!
Good info
New subscriber ❤ ! I have a 351 Windsor , early 90s , it came with a cam I haven't yet degree . It has Edelbrock Performer heads. Any idea on a good set up for 500 HP ? Going in a 89 T-Bird , I would like to keep it fuel injected lol
Great to have you along 👍
Would be good to know the cam details
PLEASE GUYS let's get Ed over a million views let's getter done !!!
That would be so awesome - thanks for the support!!
Ed: I have a sbc 350 block with a Crower cam and 170 CC Summit Racing heads. My problem is with rocker adjustment. I am running the 1.5:1 ratio rockers. The Crower lifters and cam. The 7.765 push rods at a 1/4 turn on the rocker nuts. It doesn't run very well with anything else adjustment wise or parts wise. Can I make a positive difference by adding that combination with a 1.52 rocker on the intake side only, or should I just add the 7.800 push rods to all 16 valves? Can you help? Wondering if I should try that!
Thanks for your question, it might be a bit before I can ask Ed, also we like answering more general questions that many can relate to, but when it’s super specific build questions, I’m not sure this is the right forum. I’ll see what I can do.
@@BarryTsGarage Thanks for your consideration. I appreciate it!
Speaking of higher nickel content a lot of manufacturers have problems with the slip yolks in the drive rear driveline hanging up make a bump noise or feel when you take off from a stop sign. Slip jokes with higher nickel content fixed that problem plus some special lube.
Great tip
I have a Chevy 350 that's low compression, gets hot fast, looses half second at 200 degrees, i put half race gas and it wasn't a tick faster, but it never lost anything when hot lapping
ED'S FANTASTIC!!💥💯💪
AUSTRALIA!🤍💙❤️🙌👊
So great to hear from you down under!
I have always been a Ford guy so this was very enlightening to me because I was never clear on the Windsor vs the Cleveland and I understand it better now but unfortunately I just can’t keep it in my mind for very long so the beauty of it is that I can look up this video and refresh my mind so Thankyou Barry and Ed and like I always say and I am sure you hear this all the time but I could listen to you guys all day long 😀🇨🇦
Thanks so much! 👍👍
He is wrong about the bell housing bolt configurations of 351C vs a 351M. The 35C has a Windsor bolt pattern. The 351M/400 has a 429/460 bolt pattern.
A Farmall MD is likely the tractor mentioned starting on gas and switching to diesel after it was warm, though I think International made a couple tractors like that at the time (McCormick WD9 might be another).
Maybe an international UD-18? Back in the 1930’s and 40’s battery/electric start want up to the task and several companies worked on developing this setup… 👍
@@BarryTsGarage I think the UD18 is a power unit engine, but I'm more familiar with other brands of antique tractors. I wouldn't be surprised if the MD was International's most popular diesel tractor that started on gas at the time, but an IH collector would know better.
I'd like to build a diesel to burn methanol or ethanol, maybe mix a bit of nitro with it. Do some heavy mods to the heads, larger valves. Better intake and add a spark plug. Drop the compression to around 15:1, lighten the crank a bit. Make it more aerodynamic. Maybe do some cutting and brazing on the head. Polish the rods and crank lighten the pistons remove a couple pounds from the engine. And balance it well. Possibly use arp studs. Modify a distributor to run from the injection pump gear. If a 4bt Cummings possibly use a old Chevy distributor shorten the shaft, mill a adapter to fit the block then the distributor fitting in using a spline drive. With a compound turbo and air to water intercooler methanol to cool with dry ice for chilling the intake charge to possibly 50°F with a triple disc, 12" clutch, custom disc clutch with a modified flywheel, light as possible. Use a center force dual friction pressure plate with extra weight on the fingers, only about 10 grams each. If it works out, having intake runners rated in place possibly pour in aluminum to fill and gaps to allow porting to transition. Use a crank trigger to fire injectors in the runners . With 3 per runner one top, bottom and one at the top of the individual throttle valves, with a large 6-8" plenum with a 68-70 mm throttle per runner. And smooth and polishvthr block inside and out, to improve oil flow and return. Epoxy coat, or possibly ceramic coat the block with ceramic insulation and low friction coatings on the engine parts, coat the piston dome with the insulation coating, along with the exhaust ports, intake ports. It would be awesome to modify the injection system to operate as a direct injection, using the heat plug holes as spark plug holes the only thing more awesome, would be a 6-71Detroit set up like this. The screaming jimmy would be howling. Swap a 8v92 blower on the 6-71, with a twin compound turbo setup, 3cyl per turbo pairs large turbo, with a slightly larger turbo, per 3 cyl. On ethanol it would be awesome. With a splash of nitro it would be insane a two stroke 450 cid turbo monster drunk and on nitro, insane, connect that to a lenco 5 speed maybe in a land speed torpedo, or truck a chopied tube frame c5500 Chevy everything fiberglass, carbon fiber, except the cab, and alot of it replaced with carbon fiber, door skins, aluminum floor, chopped top. With a modified 1ton bed, modified 22.5" aluminum rims and modified tires, maybe turn down the rims to accept 22" automobile tires. The rims weighing about 1/3 the original weight. And use a 1 ton axel, with 10 lug adapters, and run only a single rim, dual rims is too heavy. Maybe produce 3200hp with 2500tq. In a 3500 lb truck with two gear vendor od units, a 3.73 gear should be equal to roughly a 2.08:1 plus the large diameter tires, making about a 1.55:1 , split the 5gears twice in theory, or its a simple 7speed. A push to 60 mph would help the clutch it should easily do 250 mph depending on aero a torpedo possibly 300+ but imagine casting an aluminum block and head, a block weighing roughly 100 lbs near 1/8 of the iron. Forging a crank and rods from 4340, about half the weight of diesel, and mill a girdle from 4340 going across the mains, pan rail, to the outside or the pan rail, then similar across the head, with 1.25" bar go in up from the mains to the heads, the 1" thick around the head rails with bars crossing and meeting the risers from the mains. With about
.030" gap using . 625" studs in the risers. Tq to 85 ft lb. This clamping the heads to the mains. Use coils capable of nearly .150 amps at 80kv with 12mm solid plug wires, with shielded and grounded covers to reduce the emi. And possibly build a rotor with copper contacts with nickel plating.
.125" thick and the little springy contact using a braided copper wire equal to 14 gauge wire. Silver soldered to the contacts . The distributor cap using copper contacts with thick nickel plating. With extra large contact area to make the current path much more efficient. Possibly use copper silver plated with nickel plating for protection. The silver will do most of the current carrying. Being a 4cyl make the distributor conductors about
.750" wide..125" thick. With..250" post for the wired. With two coils producing nearly a 1/4 amp the distributor cap should handle it. Sorry to ramble , have a awesome day!
Wow, interesting project! You have a very detailed plan you’re gonna have to let me know how it goes…
i love hearing eds stories
Who’s the bad man behind you. Running late to watch Ed’s video. Love watching the Man himself giving some Knowledge out. Love Ed’s smile when he’s letting a secret out. Thank again to Ed. PS did you do a walk around his Man Cave
Thanks John!
I have yet to do a man cave tour - let’s just say Ed has some “projects” in the way of a good presentation at the moment.
I promise to ask Ed again this fall… 👍
My 1938 John Deere two cylinder has one gallon fuel tank and a 12 gallon kerosene tank startes on the small tank get it hot switch it over to kerosene works great.
Great example of that thinking! Thank you
To me torque flight is a Chrysler automatic transmission is that what you're talking about?
Yes
What a great video. I learned something close my favorite Engines to work on. The first engine overworked on was a 230 inch. Dodge sad head when I was 15.
I've done a lot of Chevy's Fords and Mopor products over the years. Those are fun to work on. Keep up the good videos
Thanks for the comment! Your encouragement keeps us going
Watched dirt track in or around LA in 1963 and four.
The runners with new engines would get faster and faster
Then as races go by and days, they get slower and slower.
Then someone else would have a new engine and they went fast.
Exactly
On an FE engine what would you recommend as far as a good aluminum head and intake.
I will ask Ed in a future episode. Thanks!
Ed is a book of knowledge .
🙏👍
The Rodney Dangerfield of engin builders !!
😂
@@BarryTsGarage No respect , what can i say . But this man is spot on even if his wife takes all the profit loolololo
Right?? I laughed myself!
Can listen to Ed all day long
Thanks!
M Diesel, Farmall 400 and farmall 450 use the gas to start and change over to run on diesel. My father had one on the farm (400 diesel). I currently own it. Neat engineering, right side of the engine has the points, distributor, carburetor, left side of engine has injection pump, diesel filters etc. While running on gas you move a lever forward which disables the spark on the gas side and open the injection for diesel.
Wow, thank you so much for adding these details for us! 👍
🔥really enjoy listening to ed🔥👊🔥🏍⚠️🔨⚙️
Fantastic, great to have you along!
M-diesel tractor also .
👍👍
Hey what's the best thing for a person who wants to learn about machinist work for drag racing can do or do I suggest they do in order to get the best information on the subject
Great question I will ask Ed in an upcoming episode
Leaded fuel best 👌
It worked really well
Thank you for your knowledge and videos USA 🇺🇸 TRUMP 2024
You run windshield washer fluid into the intake with a sprayer nozzle
There are a lot of different types of washer fluid, what ingredient are you proposing?
@@BarryTsGarage it's a way to cheat folks have made a lot of money doing this they buy a junkyard motor and they run windshield washer fluid in the intake works for diesel or gas its water meth injection
I’ve heard of water injection but not windshield washer injection - something to think about
@@BarryTsGarage it's the winter formula you want it is water methanol a high percentage and soap surfactant
Ed is the man!
Put mothballs in the gas tank
351c bellhouseing came as 302
Maybe the boss 302. The old 302 was a match to the 351w
302 and the 315W was the same engine but a tall deck, most parts interchange, more important the engine interchange into fox body mustang with ease
600 bucks for 4 bearings wow Henry Ford would have a fit 😮
🤔👍
Henry would have loved to have sold them for 600 a set.
Well… That is true ha ha ha
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