Our 'Guilty Pleasure' Cars; 2021 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid Test Results | Talking Cars
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- This week we share test results for the 2021 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid and debate its appeal amidst newer, all-electric Hyundais that go by the same name. We also reveal which cars from CR's test program we consider guilty pleasures and we answer audience questions about tire warranties, unique paint colors and what happens to frunk cargo in a crash.
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SHOW NOTES:
0:30 - Emily tests new rear seat reminders
2:16 - 2021 Hyundai Ioniq test results
10:00 - Our guilty pleasure cars
19:24 - Question #1: How can I get a tire warranty if the shop I bought them from didn’t supply one?
22:53 - Question #2: Why aren’t there more green colored vehicles?
24:33 - Question #3: Would hard objects in a frunk affect crash safety?
26:36 - Question #4: Why does the U.S. have multiple systems to charge electric vehicles?
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LINKS:
2021 Hyundai Ioniq: www.consumerreports.org/cars/...
Preview: Hyundai Ioniq 5 EV Accelerates New Sub-Brand Into the High-Tech Future: www.consumerreports.org/hybri...
Toyota Avalon 2019-2021 Quick Drive: www.consumerreports.org/video...
Honda Passport 2019-2021 Quick Drive: www.consumerreports.org/video...
Volkswagen Tiguan 2018-2021 Quick Drive: www.consumerreports.org/video...
Kia Optima 2016-2020 Quick Drive: www.consumerreports.org/video...
2021 Hyundai Elantra: www.consumerreports.org/cars/...
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The Ioniq is nicer looking and drives a lot better than the Prius. It has more torque and is more secure driving at highway speeds. It has better sound deadening insulation as well. Having said that, the reliability is not as good as the Prius, nor is it's resale value.
tnga Prius changes the game. a lot more substantial feeling on the highway, and a lot more midrange power due to less weight. having driven both, do not see a reason to go with the Hyundai over the Prius, unless u value the superior infotainment or 6 speed transmission
I just bought the 2021 Ioniq Plug in Hybrid and I love it. The 4600 tax credit helped to. It’s also s a super cute car.
It's so frustrating that 80% of new vehicles bought in the US are grayscale colors: white, black, silver, and gray. I always buy used cars and I am partial to blue and red, but I also like green and orange cars. It's really hard to find used cars in interesting colors.
Green cars? There was a time when common car models came in 12, 14, 16 or 18 colors. In other words, a section of the car brochure looked like the paint display at the hardware store. The automation of so many aspects of the car industry ought to have created more choices not less.
Buy the Std colour and then go crazy wrapping it up!
My guilty pleasure is watching Talking Cars on Saturday morning instead of pulling weeds :)
My husband had one and took a bath on it in resale. It put him in the ER with sciatica. He drove it 120 miles a day and after 2 months he was crippled. It has the horrible seats. He bought a hybrid Camry and had been driving it over a year with no back problems.
My father is currently suffering sciatica because he rented an ionic. Can’t recommend other hybrids enough.
I owned a 2020 Hyundai IONIQ HEV Ultimate for about 8 months until it was unfortunaly written off in an accident. In retrospect it's probably one of the best cars I've owned. It had a ton of space, I fit a dishwasher, fridge, and dressers in the hatch at different times. It pretty much drove itself on the highway with HDA. and it had BlueLink for the cold winter and hot summer.
The best part is always got minimum 1,000km (621miles) per tank which would only cost me about $35-$40 CAD to fill. Realistically speaking it would be hard for most drivers or reviewers to argue against buying a hybrid like this IONIQ over a traditional compact sedan like an Elantra, Civic, or Corolla for almost the same price and rates. You would quickly regain the extra $1,000-$2,000 spent on the hybrid in fuel and insurance savings in a year or sooner depending on how much you drive, plus always having the much bigger hatch.
The Prius isn’t cheap and it’s not a nice interior.
the new one is pretty nice for 27k
The CVT is loud too especially the Prime.
My 2006 Cadillac DTS, my 2008 Cadillac STS, and my 2013 Lincoln MKT were all cars that car magazines sneered at a bit, but they were absolutely wonderful automobiles. These definitely were guilty pleasures.
I’m so glad Mike mentioned Saab! I love my 9-3 Aero from the late aughts with a manual
1978 AMC Matador that I owned in the early 80s is my guilty pleasure. That thing was a tank. We received 14 inches of snow back in 1982 and I was able to drive home from work in that snows when my previous cars would have had me stuck in the snow.
The Lexus ES is my guilty pleasure. Sometimes you just want a comfortable, quiet, drama-free car.
I think alot of people would love to own a Lexus ES!
My mom has purchased 6 brand new Lexus ES's since 2004! She loves them and will only buy this brand and model. Drives a lot for work and gets rid of them after around 150k with zero problems every time. The only difference is that her 2019 as opposed to all her previous ES's was made in Kentucky and we both noticed the drop in build quality from the start when compared to all others! Doors slam cheaper in the front, plastics squeak when pushed and there have been 3 or 4 recalls that all her 5 previous car never had combined.. Just saying its making her rethink another ES since they are built in KENTUCKY. The RX might be next for her as it's built at least in Canada which historically does a great job. Not hating on American built because that's what we want to purchase but I also will call it like I see it. Come on Lexus, match the Japanese in assembly and build quality attention to detail IN AMERICA!!!
We still miss ours. It wasn’t practical for kids, but it was comfy and dead reliable.
Another great episode! Thank you for all that you do!
I got my 2017 sonata hybrid for 21k in 2018 brand new, back then the ioniq hybrid is actually selling for more being a smaller, lower equipped, worse ride, lower power car. I just don't know why anyone would buy that. The Sonata hybrid has more room, 5 link rear suspension, and cheaper.
I love my 2016 Outback. It doesn’t get much respect or love from others in my family but it’s staying until it literally falls apart.
Mike got it right on the Hyundai Ioniq. It’s hatchback gives versatility a sedan can’t. The Prius’s styling is a deal breaker.
Microwaves in frunks are for VERY short trips. "It's been 60 seconds. We'd better pull over to see if our food is hot."
Guilty pleasure: 1996-2007 Ford Taurus Wagon... the so-called egg carton but it looked so original. I also love the Honda Clarity.
Interesting pair.
The Kia Soul is a guilty pleasure of mine. I am in the auto industry so I get a company car. I always try to drive these vehicles. They are comfortable, good on gas plus they have alot of space for their size.
Those and the similarly boxy Scion TCBY (whatever) make really comfy taxis.
My guilty pleasure vehicle was a used 1997 Isuzu Trooper 5 speed manual that I had from 2006 to 2010. It was fun to drive on and off road.
Fiesta ST is my guilty pleasure. A manual, practical, hilarious driving dynamics, including rotating (a little) like a RWD. But wow, is it cheap inside and goofy looking as far as the exterior. Totally would have bought one new if It wasn’t for.the looks. Ditto for the Type R. Ended up with an ND Miata and a Honda Odyssey. So basically, a deconstructed ST, sort of.
I own the all electric Ioniq and love it
Satisfied my guilty pleasure last year: BMW i3 REx
CR's reliability results got me to pull the trigger on an "Orca White/Black" used 2017 model.
Unique drivetrain, carbon polymer body with origins here in Washington, Porsche-esque CofG, Eucalyptus dash, zero range anxiety and a totally functional clean-sheet design.
Absolutely zero issues, and saving $2k per year in fueling (24k miles/yr).
Can't believe how many questions I get about a 7 year old car.
Had an 2017 Optima and hated it so much, that I traded it in for a new 2018 Habanero Orange Tiguan and loved it. The only reason I don’t have it today is because I fell in love with my the 2021 Arteon which I am driving right now. The Tiguan never broke down on me.
I have a 2020 Avalon limited hybrid and love it for the exact reason you are saying. I would also mention another car which I had debated on which flies under the radar is the VW Arteon. Sadly it is very hard for a taller person to get into comfortably. Old school guilty pleasures would be the Honda Element ( They really need to bring it back !!!) and my old 1989 Pontiac Grand Prix coupe, maybe because it was my first car but something about a coupe with decent space and for the time fun for a 21 year old to drive.
Yes, having the Honda Element back would be great.
My parents have a 2020 Hyundai Ioniq. It was the last year Hyundai offered a lifetime warranty on the battery, which is why my parents decided to buy new instead of used. It’s been an excellent vehicle, except the visibility out the back is awful.
I loved my 1991 Ford Festiva (a Mazda 121, built by Kia and sold by Ford). It was the most basic vehicle possible at the time. It didn't even come with a radio. On the sheet that showed what it came with, they listed 4 tires! I owned it for 10 years and the only thing I had to do was replace the battery and the tires. And only needed to fill up the tank once a month. Amazing gas mileage.
i never drove one but i really liked how the juke looked. i know people loved or hated it.
Guilty pleasures: a Honda Civic CVCC and a Pontiac Fiero. Loved them both.
I love my first car. It was a 1985 Buick Rivera. Guilty pleasure.
I wouldn't call it a guilty pleasure but I've always loved the styling of the Buick Reatta. I was fortunate enough to drive one for an hour. Would love to see a modern interpretation.
Lol, when I saw "guilty pleasures", I assumed you'd be talking about gas guzzlers with big horsepower and poor reliability.
The Avalon is a legend, I will miss it hard. I test drove (hybrid) it before buying my 2021 Camry Hybrid and couldn't really justify the difference in price. It was SO nice but honestly, the Camry XLE was every bit as nice this time. Sad to see it go.
I am with Mike on the Honda Passport. I own a 2019 Passport and it has been a great vehicle for my wife and I who are empty nesters with an active lifestyle. It is a perfect size, 5 seats, enough room to bring camping and other gear, and pulls a 5000lb trailer. There are not many options that check all these boxes that are not a 7 seater which eats up a lot of cargo space that I would rather use
Sounds like the Euro Type 2 connector for EVs will eventually become the standard plug in the US too?
I will NEVER forgive GM for what they did to Saab. NEVER! My guilty pleasure? Not really feeling guilty about it but as far as a pure "Goldilocks" vehicle I'd nominate our 2018 top trim KIA Sorento. Exactly the right size for a midsize SUV. An occasional use 3rd row that spends most of the time folded into the cargo floor but is a godsend on occasions when we have to transport six or seven passengers on a local trip and the alternative is taking two vehicles. Unfortunately, the new Sorento comes only with captain chairs in the second row in all but the cheapest trims that don't have the 2.5L turbo four cylinder engine. Huge mistake that's unusual for KIA. Fortunately, we have only 50K miles on our 2018 model so we'll be holding onto it for the foreseeable future.
When CR buys a F-150 Lightning, you'll have to crash-test it with two golf bags in the frunk!
I want to see a towing test - and the range that results when you tow with the claimed 10,000 lbs. capacity. My bet? Range suffers drastically - perhaps as much as 66% of the normal range.
The Mercedes Benz E-Class is my guilty pleasure. On my second one and absolutely love them
OMG…Mike Quincy…what the HECK is up with your internet connection?!?!?
Mike Quincy, you will loved these cars...1989 Nissan 240SX coupe, 1991 Nissan Maxiama, 1982-1985 Toyota Celica coupe, and 2003-2013 Toyota Matrix, with the rear glass opened itself. They were fun to drive in my opinion. I missed them dearly! I wished Toyota would bring back the Matrix, since there isn't Sicon XB anymore!
Regional auto organizations might control which colors are available. According to one source, only 2 percent of new cars are green. That obviously reflects which colors are considered most desired by consumers. This varies by maker. For decades I drove a forest green Subaru Outback, a color that was so popular in that model that I once braked for a four-way stop corner. There was a green Outback on each of the four roads! FWIW, the one time I drove in California I was surprised by all the green cars there.
Will somebody please get Mike Quincy a better camera and/or internet connection so that his video stops jumping around?
I'm guessing that the frunk is designed with the crumple zone in mind. If there were an engine there, it would submarine under the passenger compartment, so why not the frunk, regardless of what's in it?
When are you going to review the new Ioniq 5 EV? For me, I like some "pizazz", which is why I'm getting another Kona Limited when my 2019 lease is done this fall.
we can't ever get through one CR episode without someone bringing up the stinger
my guilty pleasure is the first gen toyota venza
and toyota’s alumina jade metallic omg gorgeous
i think the european charging standard is regarding high speed DC fast charging and it's the CCS connector (vs chademo or tesla proprietary). Type 2 is probably a standard as well. In the US, the market is deciding CCS as well (sorry Leaf owners).
My guilty pleasure is a 07/08 Acura TL Type S.
Is the Hyundai Ionia tight…or perhaps more likely 2 of the cast are over large maybe, probably.
Many people will groan I'm sure, a 1976 AMC Pacer. On the plus side for many people it was the only car I have ever owned with stick shift. My wife & loved that car.
My guilty pleasure cars are a 1977 Jeep Wagoneer with a 401 because it gets awful mileage and a 1992 Subaru SVX because it's fun, but is hard to get in and out of due how low it is
Hybrid in Asia and Europe has sportier looks than those comes to US. We need sportier looking model like slot a Sport version, keep the LED headlights.
Favorite Green is Baltic Green VW
Toyota Previa, Eagle Premier, Volkswagen Touareg, Saab 900, Nissan Pulsar, etc
15:47 have they seen the stinger? or the Kia Soul?
18:17 I'd skip them both and go right for the Honda Insight.......
which I am now going to pointless see if there is one in my price range. lol
Guilty pleasure: 1997 Volvo S90. It's RWD, straight-6 NA, the same automatic transmission from the Toyota Supra.
Guilty pleasure: Volvo 240 wagons. Because RWD, 4-cylinders, and that hidden third row in the boot.
Guilty pleasure: 09-13 Subaru Forester. Last of the EJ series (and MPI), it has fantastic reliability, practicality, and subtle but interesting design language that anyone could draw.
Guilty pleasure: current Kia Rio 5-door hatchback. Because Alex on Autos & Savagegeese.
Guilty pleasure: 2010-11 Mitsu Lancer Sportback Ralliart. Enthusiasts mark it as "bleh", pedestrian drivers think it's a waste. I see it as a great balance of the two ends of the spectrum.
My guilty pleasure/should have known better was a 2006 Chrysler Pt cruiser GT convertible. Fast, looked good, but...it was a still a dodge product. Things started breaking at low mileage.
I wish they still made dark metallic Purple. Seems like all cars these days are grey or white :(
Guilty Pleasure: Lexus CT - Hot hatch looks and Hybrid economy/Toyota Reliability. It has been such a cheap car to own and looks good to boot. I really wanted a VW GTI, but this seems to fit my needs for a DD better. It got panned by CR and yes the Prius is much more efficient and practical, but the CT's looks makes up for that difference.
The Ioniq is wonderful. So not meh.
I feel like the average microwave -- made as it is primarily out of plastic, thin aluminum, glass, and a big electromagnet -- would probably act as a crumple zone itself, rather than like a block of steel.
Love love love my Kia niro phev which is ironic cuz it’s kias version of the ioniq
My guilty pleasure is Toyota RAV4 hybrid boring but very reliable efficient and roomy
What year?
I'm in the market for a sports sedan. I narrowed it down go the Acura TLX type S and the Genesis G70. I like the looks of the G70 and heard it is a quicker car overall, however I like the interior of the TLX as it looks more modern and heard the ELS sound system is amazing. What your recommendation be between the two? I currently drive a 2013 Lexus GS 350 which has been bulletproof, so I'd like something reliable as well
I would get a newer GS if I was you. Those vehicles are built like tanks but nothing is wrong with a Genesis or Acura, I just don't see them being as reliable.
Acura/Honda is known for making some of the best engines. Just because Genesis offers more for the money or has a longer warranty doesn’t mean it’s a better built car. Look at Hyundai’s and Genesis that are 4-5 years old. Warm leather, rattling and cheap plastic. Not saying Acura is perfect by any means, but the Type S would be my suggestion.
Could the tires be resold takeoffs? Tires that were swapped by dealers for customers who wanted something other than OEM and then resold.
The whole thing is suspicious; cash only, no paperwork?
Somebody pocketed the money. If you take them back with a problem? "That guy hasn't worked here in a year."
@@davidm5707 Agreed. Another possibility: Perhaps they were stolen.
This video shows how disconnected car journalists are from what people actually look for when car shopping. With the Ioniq Hybrid I got a car that gets 60+mpg, 10 year warranty, lifetime battery warranty, AND cheaper than a Prius. What is there to complain about? Get outta here.
I really don’t get Saab. At all. What’s the appeal?
SAABs made before 2000 were quriky and cool.
Acura RSX. I get impression that CR views Acuras as Hondas without the value....
Guilty pleasure: Isuzu Vehicross
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What happened to Mike's voice? Is he sick, too fast, hanging out with Jake, inhaled Helium, or channeling his inner Mickey mouse? 🐽💨 Slow the way down speedy!
Mx5 every…single….one! 😩
But that's not a guilty pleasure. It's pretty straightforward. Everyone loves those.
I get so tired of cars that are only offered in 8 variations of grey (white, silver, dove, asphalt, dolphin, anthracite, charcoal, black). These colours, IMO, just scream "I'm a 3-piece suit banker from the 1950s, and have no personality".
Have all of the car manufacturers gone colour-blind? We're told there are 16 million colours - couldn't we explore at least some of them? What about jewel colours (emerald, amethyst, ruby)? What *did* happen to green, or for that matter, yellow, or Chrysler's Plum Crazy? Even Subaru has dropped Sunshine Orange and the desert khaki. So sad that we've become a monotone society.
Quince, I love ya, but you need to upgrade your internet. Your video is all over the place!
Sounds like someone took the tires from the warehouse and installed them on the vehicle and spread the cash between the techs and the sales people, basicly stealing them from the company. Seen it happen at the NTB I worked at in my college days. Also, if you have nothing nice to say, save the rest of us your nasty comments.
Whose comments?
Despite having such, if you're planning on throwing it after 5 years, take the IONIQ, but if you're after reliability and longevity, go for the corolla hybrid. I know that the corolla hybrid is less stylish and got less features and a trunk instead of a hatchback,but remember that you're buying a car, not a phone. The ioniq has a DCT transmission which isn't promising for maintenance, compared to corolla's e-CVT. If the Ioniq had a e-CVT or at least CVT, then go for it.
The interior of the car is the one thing you shouldn’t be looking at when you’re driving. Unless of course you want to have an accident because you’re distracted by how ugly it is. Come on consumers reports. Grow up
emily should be raving about this hybrid especially now that gas is five dollars per gallon but she has her usual sarcastic attitude and snarky laughter as she criticizes it like she did with the nissan versa which was another car she should have been raving about since it's the cheapest new car in america and the best bang for your buck car hands down including everything standard on the base model minus rims and will work for much of the population especially now a days where cars are forty thousand dollars on average... what a bizarre and terrible and twisted perception of these fantastic cars... maybe she should go work for a baby car seat company bc that's all she seems to care about during these reviews
Eh! Honda insight , and Corolla hybrid are better!
You want over 45mpg, get a motorcycle.
With all due respect , she may have a PhD. in automotive safety, testing and the related physics, but that doesn’t make her a car journalist.
She is definitely NOT a car person or a journalist.
That awkwardness when it was time for her to talk in depth about a vehicle she had been supposedly extensively driving but barely had anything of substance to say... Wow.
Wow $27K for a basic Hyundai is just insane IMO
They start out at 22 to 23. The one she's talking about is the 3rd level up. There are 4 levels.
Used to love your videos, now you just talked crap and did not give a fair review.
Prius is an UGLY car!
bigger waste of time than usual.
Wasted time by writing this comment 🙄
You should stop that home office BS. Most people are back to work. Or are you not vaxxed?
many people still work at home. wouldn't you work at home if you could? who cares if they're doing this from an office or at home?!
Point of fact many offices and companies have “discovered” workers do need to be at the office and yet they get even more done. With technology, there is very little that needs to happen in physical offices. If you study the current real estate market, sales and leases of business and office properties have fallen off the map. One way a business or a non-profit such as Consumer Reports can save enormous amounts of money is bagging the big brick and mortar office and allowing people to work from home.
My company went remote in 2014. The owners asked us if we were interested in it and everyone was on board and all but three people left the DC area within a year. Saving $15k a month to rent office space meant we could all get higher bonuses and moving to areas with lower cost of living and less traffic was really nice
What do you care where they work?
Just trying to force your views on everyone else?