Owner of Hyundai plug-in hybrid shocked by $15,000 cost to replace battery
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- Peter Birovchak says when he purchased his plug-in hybrid electric vehicle he thought he was being a good steward of the environment.
“I liked the idea of going to a gas station once every three weeks instead of once every week,” Birovchak said.
In November 2017, the Kelowna, B.C., resident purchased a brand new 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Plug-In Hybrid for around $30,000. Birovchak says he saved about $300 a month on his gas bill.
However, this past September, the engine light came on while driving. After taking the vehicle to a Hyundai dealership, Birovchak was told the electric battery would need to be replaced.
“I got a quote the next day for $15, 272 not including labour,” said Birovchak.
What’s worse, Birovchak’s vehicle had 190,000 kilometres, which meant it was past the warranty of 160,000 kilometres.
Consumer Matter's reporter Anne Drewa explains what happened next.
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I have a 1998 Toyota corolla running like a champ
Impressive! How many miles does it have?
Oh, what a feeling!
@@JohnnyFontane528 I love what you do for me!
Yep and it's probably put less than half of the CO2 in the air then the manufacture of those two car batteries. I swear electric car buyers must be illiterate!
My 96 4runner has 368,000 miles
I really hate when these car companies ONLY treat people fairly when a news organization gets involved. It's simply a PR move and anyone else is totally screwed.
Their warranty is clear. The buyer was stupid to buy a Hyundai and anything with unproven technology. The guy is asjw. He has to pay the stupid tax now
Fairly? He is way outside his warranty. Things happen. What is fair is that this guy pay for a new battery. I don’t expect Apple to pay for a new battery on my five year old iPad.
It passed warranty. Can’t blame the manufacturer.
The Prius battery replacement cost ranges from $2,000 to $4,500. not 15,000.
He was being treated fairly. The vehicle was out of warranty. He just wanted special treatment.
Now throw that old battery in the landfill.
Your an environmental hero
Nope, they've gotten battery recycling up and running now.
And they've also figured out a way to make wind turbine blades easily recyclable, and how to recycle the ones already thrown away.
Try to keep up.
Oh, and forget the environment, fossil fuels kill 8 million people a year, and help kill literally tens of millions more earlier by making their condition worse.
The world is spending almost a trillion dollars a year on fossil fuel related healthcare costs.
And fossil fuels ALSO get a LOT more subsidies than renewables...... And renewables are still cheaper....
Still pollutes less than sticking with gas. Now that you know that, you can stop making idiotic comments.
@@thomaspetersen3220 how much coal is burned to charge your battery for 6 hours?
Replacement batteries are over $5,000 each. These cars will be in a landfill sooner because of this cost.
To manufacture each EV battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, 25,000 pounds of ore for copper Diging up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust For just - one - battery.
Think about that before you make another idiotic comment.
@@connorcincinnati Stop replying with idiotic comments. You can mine the lithium, drive the EV for 300000 miles, dump the battery in a landfill and only ever charge it with electricity from a coal plant and it STILL pollutes less than an ICE vehicle.
I know it’s so hard for you to understand facts when it’s easier to just believe stuff you read on an anti ev blog somewhere.
Facts. They hate facts.
No one can be shocked by this anymore
its also too late to do anything about it.. we can speak with our wallets but the public is to dumbed down now to care most go mehh and move on most go crap and cave it in the industry its called slippage only a few sue and the companies budget for this in their figures before they make a car they go into a team meating do cost analasis class action lawsuits only benifit lawyers youll get hardly anything recalls only protect the company do you get compnisated no a newer car no a equal car if they have to keep ttheirs no youll ahve to sue they hope you dont this is how the world works now.. and it needs to change if enough stop buying they will blame the economy not the real reason if they fail they will blame the econom and we wont have cars if they fail scammers will sell used rfepaird cars as new prices even with 1 million miles on them then disapear folks not going to change till someone steps up these car manfactures and says enough is enough elon was suppose to be that guy notice how oh free super charging forever oh free plans to anyone that wants them etc nope he yannked it all not one person since the dawn of time has been truly honest and done for the people and provided a good service etc not that i can recall not one president etc this world is the concrete jungle and no one cares
People buying EVs and especially Teslas are riding around on a financial time bomb.
Reflected in their residual values. Which are plummeting..
No, because this video is about Hybrid from the old moronic car companies that can't build good EVs and neither can they build good hybrids, because they don't get the new technology. Tesla batteries last a LOOOOOONG TIME LONGER than this. Want to guess why Tesla sold globally 1.8 million BEVS (not hybrids, these are fully electric) last year? And why the Model Y has become the most sold car IN THE WORLD? Because they are the best in the BEV market. Hybrids are basically a admission of incompetence by the car companies that build them: If they knew worth a dam* about building full BEVs, they would, the best parts on a hybrid are the electric parts, BUT they can't build these in acceptable quality so they have to use the ICE engine as a crutch.
@@nigratruo My 14 year old Prius would disagree with you. It's had brake pads once, and a couple of starter batteries in all those years. Battery replacement, when that comes, will be less than $2,000. It's going to be quite a few more years till we know the actual cost of owning and maintaining these all-electric's. Stories like this should be a warning.
@@specex no, it won't, BEVs don't even have these parts that you have to maintain: A BEV has a Battery (no maintenance), an electric motor (no maintenance) and an inverter (no maintenance), everything else is software that has no moving parts, so no maintenance to prevent breakage. The car is way more efficient and that also because it has so many fewer parts. Your hybrid has most then 10 times the amount of parts that a BEV has. Just the emmissions control is a royal PitA in a Hybrid and ICE. Just wait for the Cat breaking and then your eyes will pop at the cost. The battery by the way can easily be checked for condition PLUS we know from Teslas that they last a loooooooooooooooong time. Remember the million mile guarantee that Tesla wanted to give to the trucks? That's how good they are. But you might not be a mechanical / IT engineer and not know the difference. I do understand them. There is a very good reason we don't use horses anymore and neither did we ever switch back to steam engines. The old is obsolete, it is much worse than the better technology. BUT, make sure you know that Tesla beats all other BEVs and you can buy a really crappy one if you don't buy Tesla (Tesla by the way sells more than any other company, by a huge margin, Tesla sold 1.8 Million last year, BYD 1.5 million, but Toyota? Toyota is working on their own Kodak moment of bankruptcy: they only sold 100,000 BEVs, intentionally. Well, Kodak also stuck with the old chemical film, intentionally.
Have you seen how badly made is the Tesla Truck?
He can save the environment TWICE!
Gold 😂
Lmfao!
@alexcovid1912 👈 bird brain 😂
Twice the trees saved---oh yeah.
Good for Peter!
And people vote for politicians that want to ban gas powered vehicles and then cry when they get a $15K battery replacement quote.
More than a decade ago I looked at a Honda hybrid at a used car lot. I asked the salesman what's the cost of replacing the battery, he never answered my question. That's when I knew why the previous owners got rid of it.
They can run with the battery, this one can't because it's a plug in hybrid. Plus the Honda hybrid the battery pack is only $1200-$2500
That's not bad at all if it lasts around 5-7 years @@bubbafrie9001
As soon as that battery goes you lose all that savings you thought you were getting. Had a Lexus hybrid the battery went and was quoted from 7k to 9k I saved nothing. Would have been cheaper to drive a v8!
@@J-wu8sc my Chevy volt has 180k miles and it's still going strong. Paid 20k for it so I think I got my money worth
@@J-wu8scwell lucky Toyota and Lexus hybrid batteries can be rebuilt for much cheaper. Don't have to replace it.
Now is definitely NOT the time to be buying a car. Average car cost $47K?! That's insane!
Check your ego at the door - you need a vehicle to get back and forth to work, not to impress anyone. An auto finance rate of 7%+ is an insult to anyone with excellent credit. No thanks. Those new cars can sit on the lot and rot away for all I care.
I'm with you. I don't care how much it costs to keep my current cars running.
I'll drop new engines and trans if necessary I refuse to buy a new car.
Yeah, Im glad I keep seeing this message because I want a new car, but man these prices are crazy
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Auto rate of 7% should be normal, because if the FED didn't keep rates artificially low.
However, PRICES should insult you, these dealers are screwing their future for a gain in the short term.
Auto rate of 7% should be normal, because if the FED didn't keep rates artificially low.
However, PRICES should insult you, these dealers are screwing their future for a gain in the short term.
I inherited my Granddaddy's 2002 Buick Regal the he bought brand new back in late 2001. Car came equipped with the 3800 v6 with the supercharger. We've had the car in our family for 21 years and it's still running like brand new. Back in early 2021 I was hit by a Mustang. My car survived with minor cosmetic damage but the mustang was completely totaled. I guess my granddaddy was right they don't make them like they used to.
The 3800 Engine in the Buick built at that time along with the Buick Lesabre was bullet proof. Don't ever
Sell or trade that car away to purchase a newer model.
And your range per tank of fuel has not decreased much in that time eirher.
If your car was an EV, you would be on your 3rd $20k battery. The EV batteries last around 10 years.
Imagine if it was a 1970 Buick Skylark you would have ran over the mustang and a few deer and still be able to get it home 😂
@@JetFire9
There are Teslas still running strong after more than half a million miles on the road. But you seem to want to hate on EVs, so nothing I say will change that fact.
Remember when people said that once those types of vehicles become mainstream the batteries will be super cheap on the used market?
I have a 2008 Tacoma Toyota 4 cilinder with 300 thousand miles that’s runs like a champ ..
A ten-year-old Mercury Grand Marquis suddenly sounds really good.
WITH THE POLICE INTERCEPTER UPGRADES
This guy who says he saves $300/month on gas will likely save enough money to pay for the entire $30k car in another 5 years given that he'll now be getting a brand new battery at nowhere near $15k. That suddenly sounds really good.
It’s discontinued In canada
My 23 year old c240 is even better 😂
Indeed, I’ve had four (still have 2) and don’t plan to retire them anytime soon.
This is exactly why I’m sticking to my gas cars
Also what happens to the old battery? Are they recyclable? Or will that giant battery sit in a landfill somewhere, nullifying the environmental benefits. If anything i’d go with a hybrid.
Same here, bought my last 2 gas vehicles I will ever need. FJB
Yep. Same thing happened to a coworker. Drove a Tesla, $17k for a new battery
People don't have the IQ to take into account the probability of this happening smh. On average hybrids would still save people a lot of money and also be much better for the environment and society. Not every car will break down like this. They need a better warranty scheme that's all. Hyundai isn't great when it comes to long term support
Bet if the Media did a story on a meteorite hitting a house and destroying it, you'd say you'll say this is why I'm sticking to my cardboard box.
Well, that killed my electric dreams. This sounds like a nightmare.
Another thing most aren't talking about is EVs need tires changed out frequently because of the added weight from all the electronic stuff. From what I only about 10k miles before tires are toast.
I had a dream my life would be
So different from this hell I'm living
So different now from what it seemed
Now life has killed the dream
I dreamed. (from Les Miserables play)
@@MistaTofMainemore wear on the roads as well.
Ya electric wont work... Common since tells you that
Says you and then buys a hybrid, because they are not electric cars ???? You don't know what you are talking about, you seem confused.
$30k for a car...$15k to replace battery. You can get a really nice car for the $45k you're spending. Go gas
Exactly. I mean they sold over 250,000 of these and these two people have problem. People who own gas cars never ever have problems. No recall nothing.
@@saksit247 well..if you own a gas car and the battery goes out - its roughly $200 for a new battery. And we all know that warranties have all kinds of loop holes.
That's wrong. It's 30K (new car) - 21K (savings) = 9K + 15K, (new battery) so 24K total for the 2018 Ioniq with a new battery. And that's if you are spending 15K on a battery or not. He never had 45K for a new car.
@@HunterShows You can get a new car for 9K? Seems like Liberal math
This is still a gas car..
In 2015 I bought a 2008 Corolla with 60,000 kms on it, for only $9,000. I'm still driving that car, with $240,000 kms on it. Only large maintenance items = replaced the battery twice ($130 each time). (as well as new tires and new brakes).
Robust car, Corolla. 2000's toyotas were the peak of reliability with less reliance on a computer system to run everything. Now even a damaged side mirror is enough to write off a whole vehicle. 👍
No oil changes and gas cost
@menguardingtheirownwallets6791 It would be interesting to know how much your fuel cost for the 240,000 Kms you put on it including all maintenance cost.
@@elvertestaguzza9753He didn’t have to pay for 3 HV battery replacements at $20k a pop either😂😂😂😂 🤡
In 2000 I bought a 1997 Toyota Corolla with just 10,000 miles on it for $10,000.
I drove it for 16 years and put 145,000 miles on it.
Best car I ever had.
In 16 years all it needed was oil changes, tires, brakes, 3 or 4 batteries, air filters, a throttle position sensor, and at 100,000 miles I replaced the spark plugs, wires, and coils.
It never let me down. PERIOD.
I replaced it with a new 2016 Toyota Camry which has been flawless during the 7 years that I’ve had it thus far.
What blows me away is how people are oblivious to any of this. If your car runs off of a battery 🔋 at some point it's going to have to be replaced. And even if you buy the extended warranty in fine print it tells you it's not going to cover the expensive battery. I know many people that purchased a used Teslas totally unaware of the battery replacement but brags about how they don't have to buy gas. Warranty is gone and they riding around like it's all good.
yep they gonna find out the hard way...
If it has an engine, it is also going to have to be replaced.
Anyone who owns a cell phone should know of battery 🪫 issues
@@toddtheisen8386 most people do not replace car engines, the original one is good for decades. Also an engine swap might cost you 7000 tops, but any car that needs a replacement engine was paid off a long time ago saving you tons of money. The big concern with EV‘s are premature battery failures before your loan is paid off
@@ticenits1926 Who has a 10 year vehicle loan? My wife's EV has a 100,000/10 battery warranty. I'm still driving her old 2004 Prius, with the original battery. Seems like a lot of hysteria for nothing.
Why are they complaining? Isn’t it worth the feels they get from saving the environment?
😂
Lol... Thanks, but I will continue to enjoy my gas guzzling behemoth of a car
How does anyone not know by now that a battery is a fortune and makes most cars scrap when the battery needs changing.
I know, how dumb do you have to be? He was shocked, really? Everybody knows this.
Can you not say the same about a car transmission or engine?
@@brettcarter5142a transmission and even replacing it won’t cost $15,000
If an engine or trans blows on a used car (very rare for this to happen on a late model car) best to put a junkyard engine in it and sell it. Do not under any circumstances spend big money as you will be throwing good money after bad.
@@brettcarter5142the other guys car would cost a total of $50,000 to replace the battery and install it. That’s the price of a nice fully loaded Mustang…
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I wish I could find it, but I remember reading a study once that claimed financially insolvent men had 1.5-2x more sexual partners than their financially solvent counterparts.
I think people should also seriously look into investing of some kind. Something that brings money back to your pocket, real estate, stocks, whatever can bring back value to their bank account rather than draining it. Obviously investing has its risks but so does just having money in depreciating assets or straight up liabilities.
Big house suv. Bruh you got people driving Honda civics, living in a 1 bedroom apartment and not a luxury one at that living paycheck to paycheck.
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"I bought this car based entirely on emotions and delusions, with zero research and education of the reality of EV's... but I thought I was virtuous."
These companies need to have a catastrophic insurance option for repairs that cost more than $10,000.
It’s called a match…
Amen! 💯
car manufacturers should be required to list the cost of out-of-warranty EV battery replacement on the window stickers... just like how they are required to list the fuel consumption
Should they also list the price of a new engine and transmission for ICE cars?
If you have an EV you just have to complain to a media outlet and they will get you online and a free fix. We’ll see how long that last.
Do carmakers have to list the cost of a new engine too? Don’t be ridiculous. Call a dealer parts department and price it out yourself. It’s your purchase, do your research first.
That could change drastically after 10 years if your battery goes south.
The costs just keep going up though.
As someone who works on ev and are seeing them come out of warranty...without help from the dealership most people won't be able to afford the repair..
Maybe it would be cheaper to lease EVs and return them before the warranty runs out.
And thus the environment is further impacted negatively in many ways. People need to do their own research instead of relying on the media, which is paid for by big money and governments. Electric battery operated vehicles are NOT an environmentally sound option in “most” cases.
Junk
Yep and better yet. No one will want to buy a used one. When they will soon be a paperweight.
A good note for anyone thinking of buying a used EV .
I thought first he was shocked by the voltage from the battery. But it was even worse shocked by 15k price tag
I would do it for 4,000 plus 8 hrs labor.
And that wasn't even installed.. what a joke that car is a hybrid too so that battery isn't even that big compared to an all electric car.
@@jonathantaylor6926 It's a series hybrid from the distant past. This battery can be renewed by replacing the cells, about a hundred pounds worth or 1500 dollars. All these stories about replacement costs are not to be trusted
When the Prius first came out 25 years ago replacement batters were also crazy expensive. Now you can get a replacement for $2k that are twice as powerful. And yes all batteries are recyclable
Yup, my friend told me her battery replacement was $2k and she didn't have the money, so she took out a loan. All that money saving on gas, should have put some away
@@HarringJess I just got 56.4 mpg on my tank last week on my 2010 Prius. Not bad for a battery that was designed and made 15 years ago
I got mine for $1200 inbstalled, with a lifetime warranty that is transferrable to the next owner if I sell it. My original lasted 190K miles
@@davidmurray8627 that's a great deal. Do you remember what brand it was?
I know mine is going to need to be replaced in the next 1-3 years
This video is for people looking to hate hybrids and EVs not for good stories from actual owners.
This is how people reaffirm their nonsensical beliefs online to ensure they can feel better about the poor information they chose to absorb. Makes for good laughs!
If this hasn't made TV or Hyundai been contacted by a company who could make this worse, they would never have replaced it. Do not think for one second they would do this for others - it's all about avoiding bad PR.
The car was 30k past warranty, and he bought it used..why would hyundai replace it for free..
@@martinfarrell5778 Like all companies, they want to avoid bad PR like the plague, and the real issue is not the hassle to get it repaired, it was the fact the car was basically written off because he scraped the battery pack, which means the state of the battery is unknown. That's the crime here.
💯
After years of "heads up info" about battery costs, it baffles me that EV owners are still so ignorant.
i can sum up ev owners with 1 quote
"you can't fix stupid"
There are many that don't have any issues
But, but, it's the principal of the thing! I'm saving the planet. I really am, really. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@markmd9of course! Most people won't suffer a smashed windscreen either.
But you should be aware before buying if the windscreen is going to cost 1/2 the price of the car.
@@alanjm1234 Everyone and their mom knows the engine/battery is the most expensive thing in a car. This isnt about a windscreen. This is about the most essential part of the car.
$15,000 for a replacement battery? Remember the $$$$$$$ you saved by not buying gasoline
And this is why I got my 2024 Hyundai Kona with Gas only. No Hybrid no electric. So glad.
Well..... that was not the smarter decision over all other good cars on the same price ...but is better than a electric
Hyundai is a bad car brand. My last car was a Hyundai Santa Fe. I will never buy a Hyundai again..
Good for you, don’t really understand why people would say Hyundai is a bad car brand. I have a 2016 Elantra GT that I purchased brand new and it has been amazingly reliable. Barely cost me anything in repairs and runs as smooth and comfortable as a Lexus. Of course cars fail, but all brands have bad batches of vehicles with the same problem.
@@SeanD808No more Hyundai for me either. I guess like any brand, quality gone downhill.
But you still bought a POS Hyundai.
Suddenly 3gs for a new 2.0l engine for the same car doesnt sound to bad
3 grand? from where? try 8k
@@robertfonovic3551 my brother just got a new engine for his hyundai elantra it was 3200 all in
Try 660 for a fully running 95 maxima
@@robertfonovic3551a rebuilt one with all soft and hard parts replaced is about 3 grand and installation another 2 grand. Still way cheaper and the engine is almost new
8 grand will buy you a brand new diesel engine for a heavy duty pickup truck. A new gasoline car engine about half that. Used used, good running junk yard engine only 500 bucks.
You always need to research the PROS & CONS especially when purchasing major merchandise. Labor to install that $15,000 electric battery is around $2,000. With $17,000 you can almost purchase a new compact/small car with a few thousands extra or use that $17,000 as nice down payment for nice all GAS ⛽️ vehicle 💯
How many cars can you buy for $17,000 out the door?? With tax, license , fees, finance cost is going to be more than $20k! Most cars today in USA is going to be 25-30k. Ever see what cars cost in Singapore????
@@wolfyklipat least 10. My 98 ram diesel was $2,000 with 290k miles and cost me less in maintenance over 60k miles than my 2022 Camry. New cars are crap. Thing ate through tires and rotors. I sold it and got a $800 Mazda, not pretty like the Camry but same build quality sadly, plus it rides smoother.
Nobody is pointing out that he WENT TO THE DEALERSHIP FOR A MAJOR OUT OF WARRANTY REPAIR!!! That battery should cost 1/2-1/3 at a independent garage that works on these batteries.
@@utubenewb1265The only problem is that very few independent shops, if any exists for these new batteries technology. So, it's the dealership or nothing.
Always a good idea to do the math and think even though both are hard.
He drove 190,000km over the course of 6 years for $125/month including the cost of the car itself.
I’m glad Consumer Matters was able to help this man. But given what he and others have gone through, I won’t buy an electric vehicle unless it comes with a lifetime warranty on the battery!
Post warranty battery replacement is rare? That must mean battery replacement has to be done before the warranty expires.
He put 194,000km that 120k miles on that car. You may have to replace something at that point.
I really don't understand his complain and those who agree with him. He drove over 120k miles without the need of replacing the original battery, that's already very impressive given it was a Korean car from 2017. If he can't afford the replacement, go to an after market option.
@@deloiero I know with 120k miles on a gas car you would be on your second transmission.
I don't think the issue here is the battery dying. The issue here is the price, that's a whole new small car.
@@didier_777uhh, not if you maintain it! Change fluid and filter every 60k. Most people don’t maintain their cars properly.
@@didier_777 you definitely shouldn't be on transmission #2 at 120k, but it's understandable the battery would need replacement at that point since they do wear out with charge and heat cycles.
I work for a Hyundai Dealership in Illinois. That's about right. Most Hyundai electric cars do have those issues.
On used cars.😢
All electric cars do
The Koreans still have a long way to go. All of their automobiles have various issues.
But in Korea, the government sides with Hyundai all the time and consumers get screwed
Must be a Canada/US issue, Hyundai in Europe is doing quite well and score highly on reliability. Particularly the Ioniq, even on the used market
Would’ve been way better off with a Tesla. Hyundai is not the best car brand.
Robbery without a gun
He did not think about the long term when he was destroying the planet buying a hybrid.
@@richardpatrick2852 do you know what it takes ro build those batteries that only last around 10 years and then contribute to the throw away culture? Being green isn't as green as they tell you.
On the flip side, don’t understand how a 5 year ago car almost 200,000 km still be covered by any warranty, unless buyer paid extended warranty…
EV components always have long warranties due to how reliable they are. Most EVs have at least a 10 year 160K km warranty.
Even then, Hyundai Canada has a 10-year 100k km standard warranty and even extended the battery to 160k km.. tell me any other manufacturer who has that?
The story is similar with the Toyota Prius. But the Prius hybrid battery is basically a bunch of segments which make up a large battery bank. In most cases only a couple segments are bad, not actually the whole battery pack. I have purchased many Of these cars with so called hybrid battery issues, disassembled them, test them with a multimeter, remove the offending battery segments, and replace them with good used batteries (usually around 20 bucks each), clean all the terminals by placing them in a vinegar solution, reassemble the battery and install it back in the car. In every case, I have had 100% success with the repairs. I wonder if the Hyundai battery is equally as serviceable.
It likely is, but most people are to dumb and lazy to service anything anymore
Probably is but Hyundai is not in the business of saving you money. They want to recoup the cost of you not going in to them for brake pad and oil changes.
@@samboni702 Yeah but they do want to sell new cars. What do you think that guy sentiment is on buying another Hyundai electric car after a bad experience like that. They are looking for a lifelong customer, not a one time customer. That’s just my thought.
The Ioniq is exactly the same. Manufacturers/Service Techs just can't be bothered to replace individual segments within the battery because it's less profitable.
@@FCoFix So there needs to be a third-party to help make electric/hybrid car ownership more economic. There are already companies who swap out hybrid batteries on site regarding the Prius. But that void needs to be better filled to include different makes
Running a 1996 Mustang GT Ford (Fixed or repaired daily) bought it used for 7K in 2004. Still running and the car tag is $20 a year. It is a convertible and now worth about 7K.
He said he saved $300 a month. Assuming he bought his car mid-2017, and it developed the problem at the end of 2023, that's 6.5 years X $300/month = $23,400 saved at the pump. So he's still ahead even if he drops $20K including labor on replacing the battery, not even counting the time value of money (he's been saving money for six years, and only has to pay some of it back now). Also, he never said that the car doesn't work, only that the light comes on on the dashboard. We've all known people who drive with dashboard lights on for years. It's possible all this means is the battery has dropped below some pre-set capacity limit, so that his electric-only range is shorter than it used to be...in other words, he could keep driving the car as-is for years, and keep his $23K.
Best day of my life was when I sold my Hybrid cost a fortune to get it fixed and took forever to get parts. All the parts cost an insane amount of money.
But,but......the environment :(
hyundai EV battery $60,000/😂
@robertguay3733 I’m guessing it wasn’t a Toyota. My experience has been the opposite of yours. Prius goes strong and is cheap to maintain.
@@kirilakmadjov8307Yes I agree with you. All the mining for EV batteries Lithium, cobalt, nickel and copper just doesn't fall from the sky. And these old batteries are very dangerous! You can't even buy a used battery or New one for a used Nissan Leaf, why not?
That’s why we went with TOYOTA, a PRIUS of course. Cost of the Hybrid Battery was $5,000. When we gave them the old battery, they discounted the battery $2,000. So it basically cost us $3,000, and we installed it ourselves…
So far the only thing I have learned from all this is to avoid Hyundai when it comes to Hybrid Vehicles…
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Or just Avoid Hyundai in General. If you live In an Urban City, they will keep getting Stolen and broken into by people attempting to steal it.
Don't forget the last decade they have been building Gasoline Engine prong to Spun Bearing.
Thing is about Hyundai, is their build quality, and especially the electric systems are total rubbish, I have had 2 Hyundais and still have a gas powered one, engine is fine, but what stops working? Anything electrical.. I would not trust a Hyundai EV if their radios and electric windows and door locks stop working.
Why such huge difference in prices?
@@rnegoro1 ZERO clue, can only speak from personal experience with TOYOTA. Did the battery replacement at around 170,000 miles on the odometer. That same PRUIS now has over 350,000 miles recorded and still going. Honestly, we felt the original Hybrid Battery failure was a fluke occurrence….
We even doubled down on ELECTRIC VEHICLES and also drive a fully electric car too. ZERO regrets…
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@@rnegoro1 Product scale, usually.
Toyota Hybrid has been around for a while and have economy of scale.
Also, I think most Plug In hybrid Battery Size is like 4x bigger than Gas Only hybrid.
Going through the dealership for anything is expensive. I recently bought a used Chevy Tahoe hybrid with over 200,000km that needed its hybrid battery replaced. I was able to pick up a used reconditioned one for only $1500.
I bought my 1990 Toyota Corolla hatch for $680.50 on ebay it was the winning bid. I've had it 17 years and it's done 425k kilometres and it's been an awesome little car for us. People have been convinced they need so much more car than they actually need by the marketing companies. Now days we buy cars based on features not quality. Eventually there will be no private car ownership, the manufacturer will own them and we pay a fee to exchange them when no longer serviceable. And cars won't be repaired anymore just replaced with a new one and the old one is handed back to be recycled. It's coming sooner than you think. Glad I won't be here to see it.
When the concept of EVs was first introduced, I was keen to own one. That changed quickly when I became aware of their many shortcomings, least of not which was the cost to replace a dead/faulty battery. This story drives that home. The fact that the battery WILL have to be replaced at some point automatically negates the benefit of ever owning one. Chances are, the replacement battery cost will more than offset any gas savings one might realize over the course of owning the EV. Electric is a good concept, but one that I do not think will ever see mass adoption given its many drawbacks and shortcomings.
Plus what it does to the earth to get those minerals, that the batteries have to be disposed of somewhere, and if you get into an accident and there is a battery fire you will die
@@williamgullett5911 People have no concept of just how hard it is to mine lithium and cobalt, it's a rare earth material. Even with the EV's becoming more and more prominent on the road, the cost of the batteries will never come down substantially due to that fact alone.
I like to say I’ll own one when the time is right and they’ve improved their available parts and make faster repairs and offer bigger incentives bc like you said there is an inconvenience of a battery change and cost
@@mrbriceno3949 Who is gonna have to pay for others to get incentives?
When they were first introduced you weren’t even a thought in your great grandfathers mind. EV were introduced 200years ago and failed miserably! Go ahead look it up, i can wait. 1820 something if i remember correctly.
EV is not a new idea and has continued to fail since its first design, always for the same reasons. Battery life, charging points, cost. Failed idea for 200yrs is bonkers to keep trying.
I had an Ioniq Plug-in… when it was less than two years old, the exhaust system fell off while I was driving. Hyundai even initially refused to honour their warranty. I was even told by the Hyundai dealership that their cars are designed to last 5 - 8 years or around 160,000 - 200,000 km
couldn't give me a hyndai or kia for free.
if you are lucky.
most of Hyundai engines and transmission wont last even 70k and you need good lawyer.
most people junk the car.
My Hyundai transmission went for 200k (km). But overall any of my previous toyotas n my current honda had and have a better overall quality everywhere.
Need more context about the exhaust falling off. If you show up to ANY dealer without a muffler, they will not replace it under warranty. Are you sure it wasn't stolen?
My 2003 Kia Rio lasted past 120k miles when I sold it, but it certainly wasn't trouble-free. Lots of electrical problems. Mechanically though, it was pretty solid. I think Kia/Hyundai hit their reliability peak about ten years ago, and they've been sliding backwards since. Their GDI and turbo engines are the main culprits.
I like the way it becomes the consumers responsibility to find out about the price of the battery. Somehow they can't inform you since it is their product. The integrity of big business.
2017? $300/mth savings? $300/mth*12mths*6yrs = $21,000+? He's still saving money!
And THIS, ladies and dobermen, is why the adoption of EVs won’t happen as expected.
This guy isn’t alone!
unless it becomes forced on us
@@ryan-el9erthen it’s time to match on some lawns, armed!
@@rifledepot6067 i mean…. ok. lol. i’m all for guns, believe me. i think we should be able to own almost anything we want. however, the government is not stupid despite how it may often appear. i’m sure by now you have noticed the way the American government operates in the context of controlling us - they control more and more over time but do it in a way where we have the illusion that we are still in full control. there may never come a day where they forcefully come and take your guns or other property - why would they need to? if i were the government and were so inclined, i would devise a plan that leads to almost all mechanics disappearing, stopping (but not making illegal) the sale of used car parts designed for gas powered vehicles, and probably a few other decisions that lead to us having no choice but to get EVs. what do you do then?
I will NEVER own an EV.
I will never own a vehicle that needs to boot up. I'll take a properly maintained diesel engine 7 days a week.
There are Toyota Prius Taxis with more than 700,000 km with the original battery still rolling
That’s because it’s a TOYOTA and not some POS Hyundai! 😝
The battery is easy to replace too.
@@huntebjHyundais last just fine. Stop with the foolishness. Not all vehicles are made the same.
wow😮😢😢
As much as it pains me to admit it... the prius is a very solid car.
$15,000 not including labor (~$50k with labor), making more sense to just buy another car, and put the old one in the landfill. So much for the 'green' option, huh?
There is no way I buying an electric car, thank you for the heads up.
Just a glimpse of the future for drivers.
only for used-car owners. 99% of the population doesn't understand hybrid batteries require regular maintenance aka. vacuum the filters once a month. Buying a used hybrid is just asking for trouble.
I have a 2021 Prius L Eco and a 2016 RAV4 Hybrid. With both vehicles the battery cells can individually be replaced if needed. I can pick up a cell for about $20-30 bucks a pop and swap them myself if needed. I am shocked when I hear stories like this and I hope people stick to gasoline or hybrid only vehicles because of this very issue. The manufacturers and dealers are greedy!
Uhuh. Ok rich rebuilds. 😂😂😂
I was just looking at a Hyundai Tucson plug-in at the dealer's. The battery has a 10-year, 100,000 mile warranty. Same for Toyota RAV4 Prime.
For all the hybrid cars , there’s a hybrid battery filter which needs to be cleaned or replaced every year. A bad filter can really destroy your hybrid battery
I think the companies are price gauging. The batteries can’t cost that much or they would be losing thousands on every single vehicle they sell.
You want merchants to give you parts for the same price they manufacture them? There will be no merchants without incentive
Well, it's more expensive because:
1. A whole car is worth less than the some of all it's parts. When are are is mass produced out of a factory the cost of labor and parts can be spread out amoung all the products. However when you take your car in to get a major part replaced, that part on it's own is going to be much more expensive, especially if it's relatively new technology and in limited supply.
2. Labor and installation will be more expensive as well.
That all said, I still think they are ripping people off with these EV and hybrid batteries. $50 to replace a 5-year-old Hyundai full EV battery is insane!!!!!
@@brienemard doesn’t change what i said that many of these companies are ripping off consumers by charging way more than they need to. In the long run they hurt themselves.
The government subsidizes the EVs to try to fool people into thinking they're getting some kind of deal. Then you're on your own.
They do lose thousands on every vehicle... the government is giving them billions of dollars in subsidies funded by you and I
The 2018 Hyundai Ioniq hybrid has an 8.9kWh battery. According to a recent Bloomberg article, current industry average production cost is US$139/kWh at the pack level. Therefore, this battery shouldn't cost more than US$1250 to manufacture. Add a markup and maybe generously a few thousand for installation, total should be maybe 1/3 of the $15,000 he was quoted. This has nothing to do with "EV batteries are expensive", and everything to do with dealerships blatantly ripping people off. (This seems to be common with Hyundai/Kia)
By comparison, a Tesla 90kWh battery costs about CAD$28,000 including installation and tax, per a Dailyhive article from 2022. (10x the size for only 2x the cost this guy was quoted)
The fact that in the end, Hyundai Canada gave him a free battery even though he was out of warranty, indicates it likely was a small cost to them.
Also, Hybrid's are not EVs, they are hybrids, you know, with a combustion engine and gas tank...
My guess is the OEM stops making the particular battery for these cars, and as a result the price skyrockets simply out of supply and demand. Generally the hybrid version of a model is produced in fewer numbers than the gas only versions, and as such, so are the specific parts for those hybrids.
It's that way with pretty much ANY car part that has low production numbers. The aftermarket giants don't make any alternatives because the overall consumer base is small, so your pretty much left at the mercy of the OEM, who's decided to jack the price up because they don't have many of those parts in stock.
The good news is, if you're crafty or know a good mechanic who is, you can often times rebuilt these car specific battery packs without the help of the OEM. Because the cells themselves aren't a unique design, and are often shared across many different vehicles. For instance, an infinity q50 hybrid will cost 20k for Infinity to replace the battery pack. However, I believe the cells in that pack are shared with the prius hybrid. Thus, you can easily obtain those cells at a very reduced cost and rebuild that battery pack for a mere fraction of what the OEM wants to charge.
This right here. Dealerships charge an arm and a leg for these things. It's sad that there's still not many indy mechanics that can pull off one of these changes.
The $139/kWh for the packs is only for the most mass produced batteries where the production lines are set up and running well. Once the battery pack is out of production that cost vanishes. A much smaller scale production line exist producing only a very small amount of those battery packs. Costs skyrocket 10-100 times as the building, equipment, and labor cost to maintain and keep up to date now needs to be averaged over a very limited production volume.
Why didn’t he just keep driving on gas and shopped around for battery replacement
Excellent post but one correction, there "was" a full-electric vehicle in the story. The guy that was quoted the $50K+ CAD w/tax and labor was driving an all-electric Ioniq. The first guy was the one with the PHEV and he was quoted $15K CAD no tax/labor. Still, both are seriously outrageous! Those Hyundai dealerships should be investigated.
In actuality that’s a reasonable price, the labor to replace that battery is highly skilled work and dangerous work. The fact that they even offered to repair the car in the first place is also nothing to scoff at because it really isn’t worth their time.
In 2006 I looked at a Prius Hybrid and a Scion XB. The XB was $10,000 cheaper so I bought it. 17 years later and I've still not used enogh more gasoline than the Prius to be near that $10,000 extra price. People buying EVs just aren't calculating long term costs.
Never gonna give up my '91 Civic...and this video makes me feel even better about that decision.
And for the curious, yes, I do my own work, so the car costs next to nothing to maintain.
Never giving up my 2013 9th gen si coupe
Keep them them civics boys
My 10 year old civic cost the same as the EV battery in this video. Can’t believe some people buy EVs to save on gas lol
okay, granpa.
To be honest, I recommend the channel electric Viking on TH-cam as he actually does research and global news, doesn’t do any
I used to have an electric car, so glad the company recalled it and bought it for fair value, that way we didn't have to deal with replacing the battery which is impossible or expensive
Only happening to non-Tesla's. The dealerships are scamming people. It doesn't cost $15K to replace a plug in hybrid battery. It costs like $1,500. Dealership is trying to price gouge and make a killing off of people. Tesla car battery's are 6x-9x the size of these plug in batteries and Tesla charges $11K to replace.
That’s why I opted for a 160k mile warranty that covers everything. Hopefully if it goes out it does within the warranty period.
We have to understand that car companies don't want you to fix a car anymore they want you to buy a new one. It's truly simple.
15k for just a plug-in hybrid battery is insane. Would be a reasonable price for a full ev (ie: not plug-in hybrid) battery replacement but ideally that should never be needed if battery was designed to have modules that can be replaced independently. I think that is the case with the Porsche Taycan by design but dunno of any other manufacturer that does this.
Full EV battery would cost much more than $15k to replace
All batteries are made of smaller modules, but they need to be balanced so they work as one correctly.
My VW ID3 would cost about $25k to replace the battery.
Not insane, it has always been known that the batteries are the biggest consumable cost of EVs. Do people think magically they are going to last forever and that the manufacturers are going to foot the replacement costs?
This guy made out like a bandit. His gas savings alone would have paid for a brand new battery install and then he'd have a fresh battery for likely another 200k km. The fact that he now likely won't be paying anywhere close to 15k means that he gets to keep most of his gas savings to boot.
I have recently seen TH-cam videos where the batteries in two Ioniq 5 vehicles in Canada have been written of by the dealership having sustained minor scuff damage with a replacement cost of $60 000. The cars became insurance write offs.
I was looking to buy an ev last month, those 2 videos made me buy an ICE lol.
i think you are forgetting that in the case of one of those, that kid's insurance will go up for 10 years because of that
yes because hyundai canada has been plagued with scammers they are committing insurance scam pretty much. its not an overall thing hyundai is doing. I do agree that hyundai name being attached to it doesnt make them look good but its rediculous to think otherwise. battery/engine is the same thing they could claim a 50k car with an engine needed a 60k engine replacement. this happens more often then you think for non EV's and this is also why you get second opinions or even third opinions before totalling out a car. but I can also tell you you can total out a car easier then you think.
And the insurance write off is only a part of the overall picture. EV batteries have a tendency to spontaneously ignite and re-ignite anywhere from minutes to weeks after being comprised in any way, and when they do catch fire they are almost impossible to put out and takes many times the water and resources vs an ICE vehicle fire. Then there's the increased risk to the tow truck hauling away the wrecked EV, as well as the risk to auto repair shops and junk yards working on and storing the damaged EV. All these additional costs trickle down to the everyday consumer, in the form of auto and home/renters insurance increases, my premium went up close to 30% last year and I drive a 2014 mustang convertible, V6 as an everyday driver and I have a clean driving record, good credit and no points on my license or at fault accidents, only had to file one claim two years ago when an uninsured driver pulled out in front of me while distracted by her cellphone and I T boned her minivan while doing about 50 mph in my just paid off 2015 Ford Fusion titanium.
Yep , def saving the environment
Not surprised. I wonder how much a headlight for current version Hyundai Kona costs in Canada? In Australia, the price is huge.
They rolled the dice and bought high-mileage vehicles; this would be a gamble even in non-hybrid vehicles. Back in the early millennium I bought a Nissan for a song--only to have some engine issues within the first 3 months. Turns out the prior owner had done engine mods that were not disclosed to me upon purchase. Two attorneys and all-expenses-refunded-later, that kid was the owner of his car again. That was the last time I purchased something used without having my local dealer run a manufacturer history on it first.
The battery pack for a plugin hybrid is much smaller than what is used in an EV . Sounds like Hyundai is price gouging.
Ya 100 percent. If 30k is the total car price, EV battery should be maybe 4000
@@pinecedar180 regular hybrid battery are more then 4k
Problem is that these batteries have to be put in a warehose for years before they are needed (like most replacement car parts). How many should be made and warehosued at what cost? Should that be added to the price of the original sale or charged to the person who needs it later? A bunch of whiners here that think they are entitled to what they want at their price. Idiots that buy EV's because they believe they are way cheaper and then find out the promise is not all that they were told by the greenies! Buy EV's if you want but live with your decision whithout all the drama!
Seems like this whole report doesn't know the difference whatsoever between a Hybrid and an EV Car. Hybrid's need gas to run, but save you at the pump. An EV is a complete electric vehicle as in "EV" and doesn't not take gas to run.
thats how they make money.
Don't feel sorry for a sucker. Car companies lie. Politicians lie.
I agree with you
Exactly
politicians are liars
What sucks, is we all pay for this. We all pay for this wasteful expensive stuff through our currencies and subsidies given out by the govt.
This is why I traded my hybrid camry, it was a lesson learned! The dealership needs to warn people of the costly repairs with these hybrids!
He saved exactly what that battery is worth in gas with 90k miles at over 4.50 a gallon
you are supposed to trade in those battery cars before the warranty is up
YES, so you will always have a car or battery payment the rest of your life. You will never own the car out right. A NEW LUXURY CAR TAX! Or basically LEASING TO DRIVE! You don't own a ELECTRIC VEHICLE you just have the new ELECTRICAL PAYMENT!
That doesn't solve the problem. One way or another, someone gets footed with the bill for battery replacement. It's that or scrap the car. If a car is only good for 5-10 years, it's disposeable.
If the range is too low dealers won't trade them. Just scrap value.
Gee, you mean I was supposed to trade in my '04 Prius 12 years ago?? I'll make a note of that while I'm enjoying my ride in my 20 year old hybrid on its original battery.
@@kenbob1071 Yea good luck. Most need swapping out after 10 years / 180,000 kms. Lost count how many our service dept has done. You're on borrowed time.
EV owners should be happy to pay for a new battery because they are saving the environment.
I agree 100%, you chose to invest in a brand new technology and now you're suspired when it turns out repairs are expensive? Who woulda thunk
@@hovojefeDo you really call a 20 year old car “brand new”?
Hybrid vehicles have been around for more than 20 years now.
Very true, there should be no complaints.
😂They will be telling themselves that when the costs come down for sure.
@@hovojefeNothing new about the technology. EV’s came out before ICE cars and the world literally never even got close to stopping development of electric motors and batteries. Never! They were even used on the Apollo moon rover. Geez.
Dont worry about the yellow light. If it keeps running just drive it on the gas engine.
My old man has some early 2000 ford truck.
It has clear over 300thousand miles with Basic MAINTENANCE.
I call it a win.
remember, only lease the EV and return it to the dealer before warranty end, therefore you can take all the advantage but avoid all the disadvantage.
Seems to be the way to go with EV! Good point!!
Yup, literally own nothing and be happy. Leasing Cars, leasehold property titles, subscriptions, etc.
Maybe. How much does that lease cost though? Depreciation is huge in the early years of an EV, so you are going to pay that depreciation.
Treat EVs like German cars, lease them, and avoid the after-warranty money pits they are.
@@spyder61man To sum it up: just pay a lot more to own a car. LOL! As if leasing reduces your ownership cost versus buying a long lasting ICE car.
Had the same issue with my 2015 Lexus hybrid here in the US. I was quoted $18K for the battery + $2K labor + taxes.
What you end up doing?
@@ClubAmerica92 Found a second hand battery with 65% of life left for $1700 bucks + labor. Total cost, shy of $3K.
So it was like you just got a used transmission for $3k. I’ll be staying with gas. All the savings you think your getting all go away when that battery dies or catches on fire and burn your car to the ground. Good luck selling a used EV!! You will end up taking it to the scrap yard and paying a battery disposal fee.
Lexus is just a cheap expensive Toyota lol yea parts are triple the price lol
@@ASD-DADa lot of people will end up doing the same thing.
Honestly, at this point people should be aware of how much maintenance is going to cost them. It's publicized enough on electric cars. If you didn't do your research, that's on you. But, plenty of stories and news articles over the years coming out about how people are shocked at the replacement costs for batteries. What do most people honestly expect? They're massive batteries. Your regular 12V already costs several hundred dollars. A battery powering your drive train is obviously going to be in the 10s of 1000s.
Annnnd for that reason is exactly why I don't plan on buying an electric car. Even if I could afford a $10,000 + battery. I don't want to.
I didn’t know news station is an free extended warranty shop
My 2 cents, EV batteries will need replacing more often in Canada, with less mileage than say parts of the US, UK or EU, due to our cold weather. You get less range in the winter due to cold effect on the battery, therefore the battery has to be charged more often. Every time you charge an EV, you are depleting both the battery life and range. If you fast charge it, it is even harder on battery life.
Apparently rapid charging shortens life, too.
2009 prius with almost 300,000 miles on it.
it still got original everything. go with toyota or honda . NEVER HYUNDAI OR KIA
@@fffwe3876 Yes, there's a reason why you still see 15 year old priuses. And 25+ year old Toyotas still on the road.
Just want to throw this out, fast charging reducing life seems to be a common myth. Charging speed does not affect life, heat does. So if heat was managed properly while charging we wouldn't have issues
By a lot!@@888Longball
I think he's lucky they decided to cover the cost, because they didn't need too, he's clearly over the warranty distance. But I do question the cost of the battery, being a plug-in hybrid it's battery isn't all that big compared to full EVs. The real story here is the cost of replacement parts, and should car companies be adding huge markups on components when their cars fail?
The cost is in the labor. These cars weren't designed to have the battery easily swapped. The technician basically has to disassemble half the car and reassemble it when it's done.
Its.
@@sparks2429you should watch the video again. That was the price without labour. They didn’t mention labour costs.
The answer is simple, the dealerships are ripping people off to make a crap ton of money off them. The hybrid battery is like 9 kWh in his Hyundai, that's a $1,400 battery. I saw an invoice for a Tesla Model X battery replacement on reddit that was 100 kWh for $11,000 before labor. Follow the money, dealerships always scam people when buying cars, they are scamming people in the service center too.
@@itsatrap7215 The problem is the manufactures won't sell you a battery, you have to go through the dealers. So you either buy used or pay these ridiculous dealership costs.
It's not the cost of the battery. It the fuel savings that count
Next time the " your car is out of warranty" calls, answer it.
We need more of these stories, people need to know this ev scheme that is being perpetrated on us.
It should be disclosed in the contract.
Name even a single "gas car" that you can drive 190,000km over the course of 6 years for $125/month including the cost of the car itself.
@@JeffVanRooy lol still not worth paying 30k for a battery... Do the math dude.
Ps I live in Canada where temp drops to -30s and -40c.. batteries don't last in these temps.. and are bound to degrade faster.
@@Sigma4Life972I did the math, maybe you should try doing it since you obviously haven't.
Paying a grand total (meaning including cost of the new car itself) of $125/month to drive a brand new car 190,000km over the course of 6 years is beyond an amazing deal.
P.S: I live in Sask and have one, it's a barely noticeable drop in distance and it's actually nice to not have to worry about your car not starting and having instant heat when it's -40c.
After sitting outside in -40 for over a day, click a button on your app and the inside of the car is +10 in ~5 minutes.
Honda civic owner is shocked by 10 thousand dollar cost of replacing engine after not replacing oil filter properly
Wow, they don't want to pay for gas and now want free battery replacement.
They willing to pay, but not at 15k
Imo, I don’t think ppl should be paying more than $10,000 for a new battery. But a battery replacement shouldn’t be more than $20,000. The most I heard was $3,000-$7,000, I’m glad I don’t have an hybrid or an electric. I know batteries last for years,but still wouldn’t pay $20,000 for one,I may pay $15,000
His gas savings $300 X 12 months X 5 years = $18000. The battery cost $15k. Peter said that he bought the hybrid Hyundai was for being a good steward to the environment. REALLY???
The truth is he cared more on the money savings than saving the environment even though if the costs of both might be equally the same.
@@DrPrag he still has to pay for the electricity though
@@error-mc5xw $300 is the savings from gas minus electric!
imagine going to the news to complain over your bill
I had a cracked bumper. W/o insurance, the part would’ve costed me us$3000. It was a tiny crack too, I didn’t think a piece of plastic would’ve cost that much!
Likely, my copay was $250.
But, $3000 for a plastic bumper? Outrageous!
I drive a Hyundai Santa Cruz
I have a 2012 Honda insight hybrid with 220000 miles on it and it still has the original traction battery . And still gets 40 mpg
Nice...it's all about quality...Honda > Hyundai
Your not to smart are you
@@coreyjohnson8301why not rebuild his existing battery pack? Will be much cheaper than a new one.
This is what happens when people get suckered by companies that virtue signal that buying their products is "helping the enviroment."
Best way to help the environment is to walk. That’s what I do. Good exercise, no worries about parking, can get a wagon if you need it (also people will think you are homeless and won’t mess with you lol) and you have extra spending money for other things. Cars are a money pit for the sake of convenience. They take too much space, bad in cities, bad for the environment and promote lazy behaviors such as driving to your mailbox 😅 I have seen that way too many times.
@@Shastasnow Most of the time, yes walking is not bad thing to do. However practicality does have a role in the use of the automobile whether you like it or not. I cannot see long haul trucking suddenly replaced by just walking. Plus on raining or snowy days, the idea of being in a warm dry car to get from point A to point B also seems to be a better alternative than walking in that type of climate.
You need to look into things before you buy any vehicle so you aren't caught in a difficult situation like he was. Glad they were able to help him. Electric cars are nice, but can end up being very costly if you aren't careful.
Biofuel development in North America is a necessity. Since the 1970s the country of Brazil leads in biofuel development why is that?
I've never leased a car, but I'm thinking if I ever have to get an EV it'll be leased, and turned in before the warranty on the battery expires.
leasing companies will be right on top of these issues and will respond with their fees
@@klassikality Paying $25K for a battery is worse.
The battery had 100,000 mile warrantee, he exceeded that in under 5 years!
But your so good on a bicycle. 😂
This is smart!
We live in a time where people have alot of experience with batteries. I'm not against EV's at all but you gotta admit to yourself theres a high potential that this battery will need to be replaced and it will be over 15 grand to get back on the road. like other batteries there is little warning other than its a 2017 and its 2023. I think 7 years out of a battery is incredible.
yeah but those 7 years battery will already have like 20%+ degradation which make charging power lost actually a wasted energy that instead can be used for something else
1997 honda Accord here, Young forever.
Warranty?