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Ok so this may sound weird but my theory is that Bonnie is possessed and so are the pat pats The screaming voices when you disable them is the spirits being freed (possibly the kills by vanny ) and Bonnie can’t rest until the spirits can rest . Who possesses Bonnie I don’t know but here we are and I think that the theory is pretty good
Bonnie’s design is so weird. It doesn’t match the other Glamrocks. Sure, Roxy has clothes, but not like Bonnie. And why does Bonnie have an exercise band or whatever that is along with hair? Bonnie in RUIN is just weird.
I don't think we should eliminate the fact Vanny could still have a motive in eliminating Bonnie- in fact, here's another hot take not a lot of people are considering: All the Glamrocks have their upgrades, but Bonnie's fingers show no claws. Freddy even has claws... but Bonnie doesn't, nor does Chica and she can SHRED. Its quite possible Bonnie could still have claws but heck if we know what's what in he franchise missing some details. But I digress. I want to talk to talk about a different feature Bonnie could potentially have, given he didn't have claws: Maybe he had augmented hearing? He is a RABBIT after all. And seeing as their creators gave all the Glamrocks special animal-like features in some retrospect, perhaps the acute hearing could help in another facet. Now hear me out a second (no pun intended, I swear!): With good enough hearing, perhaps Bonnie could probably help gently correct the Glamrocks with rhythm and literally keep an ear out for any missing notes or beats during performances (seeing as drummers, which they lack, usually help keep rhythm in some cases). This is a very important role in music to keep a certain pace and beat. Otherwise, songs can come out messy and fray. Now with this in mind, Bonnie's own side affect to this augmented feature could be that he hears weird things. For instance: the weird clanging around in the vents. The clanging in the vents can be attributed to the missing little music men, true, but keep in mind its possible Vanny uses the vents too, seeing as there's one in Fazerblast that leads to her hideout and it looked used, as observed by Gregory. As it is, Vanny may potentially use the vents to navigate the PizzaPlex and stay out of sight of both human employees at first and Roxy, whose eyes COULD see her as a threat early on. While this above part is a stretch, I wouldn't completely eliminate it. Anyways, maybe you can already see where I'm going with this? Bonnie could've been the one to notice the weird noises, report it, and then started looking around for Vanny. After all, we did see that some low-budget air conditioning contractor had been summoned to the PizzaPlex before in one of the notes. They found nothing, apparently. Anyways, its possible Bonnie got too nosy and performed this investigation on his own, following the banging in the vents around and not wanting to involve his friends since apparently he cares about them and wouldn't characteristically want to mix them up with a possible threat. He started listening for the weird noises, and managed to find Vanny, maybe, and tried reporting her. Now there's another thing to consider: There was a couple notes that also say there was a DISTRESS CALL from the PizzaPlex itself and the cops showed up. Vanessa turned them away. Keep this detail in mind. Now also consider the fact Vanessa cut Freddy off from the main server at the beginning of the game. If she can do that to Freddy, then its not impossible to imagine that, after Bonnie started investigating her and discovered something, she got nervous and offed him, despite the fact his disappearance is rather high profile and messily done. Bonnie vanishing was obviously noticeable and felt, and it had people asking about him for WEEKS. Vanessa would've had to remove him hastily and FAST, but she also would've had to cut him from the main server so he CAN'T send anymore distress signals to other staff and management. And no more impromptu police investigations while she's committing all this crime. Her work wasn't exactly low profile, as we see in-game. But she had to cut down a lot of people, and a Glamrock like Bonnie wasn't out of the question if he started hearing or seeing weird things. Its quite possible Bonnie knew too much. As to how she dispatched him, I wager she could've used Monty to do it since its not like she can dispose of the animatronic rabbit herself bare-handed. Monty has always been unstable... so her hacking him and using him as a guinea pig for this hacking and using him to off Bonnie seems to fall within the realms of plausibility. This hacking however has ramifications: creating this instability in Monty that we see in-game. Its possible Monty's always been a little wild, but who the heck knows at this point? There's a lot more little bread crumbs that we tend to write off- but I feel like SteelWool placed all these extra weird notes for a reason. This theory above I figured tied his disappearance together in some part... as to the little wet floor bots, I can only assume those were both staff and children. After all, the newspaper stated that 'disappearances CONTINUE to happen'. As in, its been on-going for a while and there's no confirmed number of victims officially for us to know. SteelWool omitted this exact number for a reason, I think. Perhaps to leave it to interpretation for the fans. Still. All this death would definitely intrigue a curious enough Glamrock with good senses. I wouldn't doubt the others would've start to notice after a point... which is maybe why she started doing this hacking in the first place; a kind of protection from curious bots. ...I am also so sorry this is so long, omg. I wanted to shorten this but a lot of my train of thought would be misconstrued as stupidity, I feel if I didn't explain some things. I just wanted to provide evidence to some of my thoughts and it just... blew up. I apologize to anyone who was intimidated by the lengthy writing but I also thank any who bother going through it!
Good point! If we assume this, then that clears up the fact that the staff bots screams are too young to be the workers. Thats because the screams arnt coming from the bots, however the worker spirits are still staring at you. The child screaming is coming from the spirits of the recent missing children, and as you pointed out, might actually be a lot more missing than we thought, which makes the 'chorous' of voices more plausible - not just the limited amount on the list. Either that, or we are hearing Charlie in the background of the pizzaplex.
I really like the theory for Cassie's dad here. Instead of a dark reflection we get the light. A protective father instead of a monstrous one, and both in the Bonnies.
I like the exact number of employees lining up with the staff bots, and it would even explain the scooper if you wanted it to (it's a remnant extractor, and they said they were replacing them with staff bots. Turning them into staff bots wouldn't be too far fetched).
i mean most people don't find bonnie so it's debatable if finding and deactivating bonnie is canon, cause cassie's focus is finding gregory not the wet floor bots.
@@TealFirefox4387 To be honest, originally, the "Thank you" line was originally intended to be Glamrock Bonnie's, according to what some have said. Apparently, he was supposed to have a bigger role in Ruin... But ended up regulated to side character. Anyway, if the "Th-thank you" meant anything, Glamrock Bonnie wanted to die, but could not self-terminate.
You know what would’ve been interesting for security breach, if glamrock freddy was the only original character of animatronic and all his old friends were replaced by new ones, Monty takes Bonnie’s place, Roxanne takes foxys place, and a new animatronic takes chicas, that would make freddy missing his friends so much more sad.
The idea of at least 32 victims is part of why I have such a problem with FNAF’s story now. Before, we just had 5 dead kids, then bumped up to 7, to move this story forward. A handful of murders in a small town. It felt grounded and somewhat real. But over two dozen murders in a massive sci-fi shopping mall? It widens the stakes but makes everything feel less personal, less dramatic. Before, we tormented ourselves with learning the name of the 6th grave stone. Now we have to keep track of potentially dozens, it’s just overwhelming. Personal qualms aside, great video.
I agree that fnaf was better when it was simpler, but I will say that real serial killers have had shocking numbers of victims, so that part isn't really outlandish.
Maybe they have some kind of software to perfectly mimic the missing people voices to have them call the family and pretend they are running off. Maybe letters written in their handwriting. Fake photos of them off somewhere else before they go missing. Etc. I mean this is in the future and we already have deep fakes now. who is to say fazbears (who have been ahead of the game with technology) couldnt make it indistinguishable? I mean. I get it. Even in the beginning ( the earlier games) you got to question why did no one get suspicious of rotting corpse smelling animatronics? You have to rationalize that maybe the bodies were removed when suspicion got big. Then by that time the smell remained but no bodies. But at the same time bodily fluids would still be present. There would be something suspicious about that. So you just got to assume people dumb in a small town lol. This is definitely harder to rationalize. I'm just trying to rationalize this best I can.
I agree, I think Scott and SteelWool forgot that this originally took place in Hurricane, Utah. A place that has a population of about 20,000. There would be no reason for there to be a big mega-mall with crazy sci-fi robots and AI workers there.
Gregory saying "Freddy, if I leave now, nothing will change will it? There will be more disappearances." implies there are a bunch of unaccounted for people that could easily add up to 27 or however many there would need to be
The newspapers do say that the disappearances are “continuing,” meaning that the silhouettes we see on the cover are definitely not the only kids who disappeared and could just as easily be the remainder of the theoretical 32 you described. I do like your theory that Cassie’s dad could be haunting Glamrock Bonnie though!
Frankly, I don't know if we need to evidence pointing to 32 distinct children that went missing at the Pizzaplex in order to assume that said number is possible. The pizzaplex is vast, much more so than any previous FazEnt establishment, thus, the number of dead/missing children ought get increased as well. Of course, this is all just an assumption on my part.
Also worthy to note that it doesn’t just say that children continue to go missing, rather they use “residents” could imply that they aren’t just capturing and killin children anymore but adults too?🤷🏽♂️
@@klaitonyoung5707 True, true, but I have a hunch that the wet floor bots are possessed exclusively by children. The fact that when you approach them wearing the VANNI mask, the screams that emanate sound like they're from children, combined with their overall small stature just draws me to that conclusion. Definitely not set in stone, of course. You know, looking back on it, have adults possessed ANYTHING in the FNAF franchise before? I'm pretty sure every instance of possession (the puppet, Circus Baby, the original cast), has been done by a child. I guess it'd just feel weird if the wet floor bots of all things turned out to be the first instance of a grown-up possessing something in the franchise.
@@michaelao.7232 To be honest, I've never interpreted those two examples as possession so much as just "not dying", so to speak. The wiki is a little vague about it too, describing both Springtrap and Michael Afton as being "reanimated" (For example, when describing Michael coming back after Ennard leaves him, the wiki says "After being reanimated and becoming a living corpse"). This differs from the animatronics like Freddy, whom the wiki explicitly describe as "possessed". I suppose at the end of the day, the idea of whether or not William and Michael possess their own corpses comes down to a matter of interpretation.
@@RyeToastThe numbers and general concept of the wet floor bots and Bonnie being possessed work. Perhaps, there may be more evidence/reason to the Bonnie possession specifically. Her father may have not finished making additional security nodes by the time of his death. In possessing Bonnie he could be able to somewhat override/overpower the Glitchtrap virus too. So perhaps in the lead up to Security Breech he may have already died and possessed Bonnie. Vanny may have seen seen his odd behaviour in his movement around the Pizza Plex after hour's as a potential threat to her objectives. Glitxhtrap may have even tipped Vanny off about him adding these additional security nodes, even if they were not directly impeding Glitchtrap himself; Glitchtrap may have suspected they were being built up to become a potential prison attempting to be built in secret due to the lockout functionality. Perhaps there may be some security nodes, broken or intact, near where Bonnie is found. It seems that a Fazwrench is required to disassemble the nodes, is there any sign of one near Bonnie? Perhaps even a broken one or something similar in appearance modified into his body? None the less, it's quite probable that Vanny & Glitchtrap were able to disable the Bonnie animatronic as a result of it acting without their instruction. Given Bonnie Bowl was Bonnies themed area, his claws were also likely suited for bowling as well as playing bass. So if similar claws were retrofitted to another animatronic, then it stands to reason they would be able to have the same qualities. Maybe there is some indication that Bonnie's legs were struck (pun intended) by a high speed bowling ball. As this would be a great method of catching Bonnie, or rather the soul possessing Bonnie, by surprise while also limiting his ability to get away from his attacker. Are the other areas of damage to Bonnie consistent with claw or bowling ball, perhaps even Bass, impact damage? Just spitballing ideas, possible leads to follow etc. Great video, would be interesting to see if there is any more contextual evidence or environmental information that's consistent with the idea.
Great theory. I wonder, though, if Bonnie's destruction was something much more simpler and comical: Bonnie went to Gator Golf for unknown reasons, and while there ignored a "wet floor" sign and got his feet wet. He then returned to Bonnie Bowl and went to bowl a game, presumably around the time the Pizzeria opened at 6:00 AM. Because of his wet feet, he slipped and slid down the lane, and was knocked into the machinery/ball return by the pin gate, where he was damaged beyond repair. The wet floor bots could represent the children (and even parents) who witnessed this happen. Presumably Fazbear Entertainment would have paid them off to keep quiet about it or threatened legal action to the parents, hence why turning off all the bots also turns off Bonnie, effectively "erasing" the incident.
While I am unsure about the wet floor bots, I do think it would be an interesting theory if Bonnie indeed got possessed by Cassie's dad, cause I really do feel like there has to be more of a connection there since her dad gets mentioned multiple times and we all know fnaf doesn't just do that without a reason.
For the wet floorbot souls. Remember. The newspaper from the alley says residents "CONTINUE" to disappear. The 9 silhouettes are just the 9 latest missing people. There ARE others.
@@PhantasieTranslate True. I write my comments as I think of them so I don't forget. So I wrote this before Toast went into the employee count. Which actually makes ALOT of sense.
@@ItsSuperMoosh The Kid victims souls were probably placed into the Wet Floor Bots, as The bots around Bonnie with him being in the middle seems very similar to Givr gifts, give life. With other souls probably being put into STAFF Bots.
I saw a weird theory on Glamrock Bonnie. Someone pointed out that Glamrock Bonnie eyes are glowing bright yellow, and Helpi eyes are glowing yellow. Coincidentally you can get a AR Helpi plush in the room where Bonnie is found in. I don’t know if this means anything, but I found it interesting.
It's tough to say with little info but helpi is part of the pizzaplex AI. To connect with this theory that the eyes glow yellow cause they contain souls: perhaps it could be the souls trying to do something within the system. Would make sense with the workers, since they would know to an extent what is going on. Idk about the scream tho, since it is child like- (maybe they surround the bot cause it is the closest thing to an adult they know? Or just the missing children instead? Who knows at this point.)
@@DraugamerLIMthe big problem with this connection personally is the Mimic. Helpi does seem to want Cassie to move forward to the Mimic, and even uses clear manipulation to get her there. With this mind you would think it would be Cassie, and it wouldn’t make sense for the previous victims of the Vanny and GGY to want to help the Mimic because the Mimic is the reason why they died.
@@personismaybe0610 true, but it is fun to consider the possibilities. Then again, theories say that Elizabeth and Charlie are supposedly the two souls fighting for control. Both can be plausible, just one is more "active" than the other (like glitchtrap represented in Help Wanted, has both purple and green, perhaps one tries to tell the story is real and you need to get away while the other is convincing you that it is not real and I'm definitely not gonna control your mind)
Maybe it's my desire for FNAF to not overcomplicate things, but I still think it was Monty. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one, such as Vanny being Vanessa. Maybe Monty was planning to ambush Freddy but Bonnie showed up instead. Or maybe the wet floor bots just ganged up on him idk
I personally like to believe that Vanessa at first wanted to test the virus and tried it on Monty first, maybe Bonnie knew what was up and she just went along and controlled Monty to destroy Bonnie.
One could almost imagine that the reason why Bonnie was chosen to be destroyed and not any other animatronic was actually because Cassie’s dad’s spirit was possessing Bonnie. That would actually clear up the loose end as to WHY Bonnie was destroyed in the first place now that we know none of Bonnie’s parts were stolen.
The thing is, I'm pretty sure Bonnie is destroyed while Cassie's dad is still around. I'd have to look at the item messages again to be 100% sure, but one of them is along the lines of "My dad would never tell me why they replaced Bonnie", which heavily implies he's still alive at the time of Bonnie's decommissioning
I think when Cassie mentions that the AR Monty plush is hard to look at, maybe it’s becuase when Monty became the base player, not everyone was keen to this new change. Maybe people didn’t like Monty as much as how people loved Bonnie. Which would explain why he’s angry.
I agree to what IDs Fantasy has said, it does seem that The Prototype Freddy isn’t our original Freddy, and Monty didn’t cause Bonnie to be destroyed. Monty only got his claws after Bonnie was decommissioned, so he wouldn’t have caused the slash that’s on Bonnie’s torso, and it’s said in one of the duffle bags, that Monty would be seen in the catwalks of Monty golf during performances. In the Monty Ride, we see a cutout of Bonnie, looking like he’s about to fall, and Freddy with his head off of his body in the same area. Who’s to say that Monty witnessed Bonnie being pushed off of the catwalks, and that’s why the staff keeps finding him there. He’s using the catwalks to find Bonnie, which was the last place Bonnie was at. As for the headless Freddy, it could be that Prototype Freddy was the original Freddy, but caused Bonnie to fall off the catwalks by slashing him, and causing him to be destroyed. This could explain why Bonnie was lured around the Pizzaplex. Even the Freddy poster in Bonnie’s room shows that Bonnie and Freddy have a special relationship. Even in security breach, Freddy mentions he doesn’t go to Bonnie Bowl anymore, because he misses Bonnie, but why would he not want to go to Bonnie Bowl if he misses Bonnie? It’s possible that Freddy was manipulated by Vanny to lure Bonnie to a place to destroy him, with Monty witnessing it happening, which explains why Monty has an irrational behavior. He’s mimicking how a human being reacts when losing a friend. Sometimes it’s sadness, but it can also be irrational behavior, which explains Monty’s destructive behavior. Freddy probably knows that he’s responsible for causing Bonnie to be decommissioned, which is why he doesn’t go to the one place that reminds him of the one person he cares about.
While that could be the case, it also isn't odd for people to avoid an area a loved one frequented or that just reminds them of their loved one. My brother didn't handle our dad's death well at all and hates reminders of him, because he hasn't let himself fully grieve. He can't talk about our dad without getting angry and storming off either. And it's been years now, not just a short amount of time, so it isn't just because it's fresh grief. If Bonnie's decommissioning was mystery, then it would be hard to move on, since Freddy would have no closure, which is important for grief. I think if prototype Freddy was the one to destroy Bonnie, this Freddy would not remember that. I can't see Glitchtrap (or Mimic1) and Vanny allowing the new Freddy to retain that memory. It would be too risky and since an animatronic can be programmed, they could easily erase that memory. In the Burntrap ending of Security Breach, Freddy didn't remember being down there until he saw the sink hole and it triggered suppressed memories. Which makes me think Vanny, Glitchtrap or heck, even Gregory (as GGY when he was possessed), programmed him not to remember that... anyway, sorry for the long comment, lol.
And the cutouts from the Monty ride imply that Monty in fact idolized Bonnie. If that theory is true, and if Prototype Freddy destroyed Bonnie, then that could also explain why Monty is resentful towards Freddy and acting all aggressive. And if that was the case, I wouldn't really blame him.
Personally i think this is a pretty decent shot at what the floor bots are. My only issue is when you approach to deactivate them they have the scream of what sounds like children. I’m more inclined to side with the 8 missing children, but honestly I’m not too hot on that one either. Anyones theory is game right now tbh
A lot of the sounds in this franchise are the edited laughs or cries of real children (used to be Scott's own kids) so it's possibly just a theme or coincidence.
Can we point out the fact that this theory requires us to believe that Vanny was somehow able to kill 25 people quickly enough that none of them could get away and not get caught
This is a very strong theory imo. I’d also like to note that many theorists believe that Cassie’s dad wore the Bonnie mask in FNAF 4. Though SB and Ruin obviously weren’t planned at the time, that would be a great use of an old detail to serve as foreshadowing for new players going through the games in order. Keep up the great work! You really sold me on this theory /gen
I theorised that Bonnie could simply have full access and control of wet floor bots if ever needed. That way Fazbear has an AI doing janitorial service for them on a massive scale throughout the building, so while still active but destroyed, all Bonnie could do was watch us, Vanessa and everyone else without being able to do anything. This also being a nod to Fnaf 1 as Bonnie can be found hiding in the janitor’s closet. I hesitate to say that the employees are haunting the wet floor bots as it’s more likely that they haunt the Nightmarionne Staff Bots. It’s heavily believed that like Glitchtrap being a virus of William’s agony, Nightmarionne in Help Wanted was also a virus of Charlie’s agony. And while uploading the Glitchtrap virus to the systems of the Pizzaplex, Vanny unintentionally uploaded the Nightmarionne virus as well. Then the all staff meeting happened and Vanny hacked the Staff Bots or the Glamrock Endos to kill all of them in brutal ways. Or she dumped them all in the sewer to rot, then Fazbear dumped other defective Staff Bots in the sewers along with them. Nightmarionne took this opportunity to guide the souls of these employees into these Staff Bots, becoming Nightmarionne themed to symbolise that. Now Nightmarionne has an army it can use to fight Vanny and Glitchtrap but it’s too late. Vanny contained and trapped the Nightmarionne virus in the server room beneath Fazbear blast. That’s why we see the Staff bits in that room, they’re trying their best to protect their leader. However, Nightmarionne did get away with one other thing, she infected some arcade machines in the east arcade and guided her fellow souls to them. Explaining why some of them may act so weird. And just in time she guided Cassidy to Princess Quest so she could join the hunt on Glitchtrap, and finish him off for good this time. These are all just my thoughts though.
What I never understood about SB and Ruin is why Fazbear Ent., a multimillion, maybe even multibillion dollar company couldn’t just make a new Glamrock Bonnie.
bc they’re extremely lazy, they literally let Afton break out in the first place, and Help Wanted was js them doing damage control for William Afton, also all the employees were in the dark the entire time based on the “Do we have a official statement?” message
I think it's AI. The Security Breach game+dlc have an ongoing theme of AI, with the mimics and even little things like Roxy seeming to struggle with becoming self-aware. I think that the screams are from the service bots gaining awareness but not being able to handle it. They lead you to Bonnie, who's not only aware but trapped in a body that can't move. They're asking you to mercy kill him. It's why they only reveal his location after it's VERY obvious that the player is doing this on purpose.
I think in the base game the 4 security bot around 1 security bot, is a direct hint at the fate of Bonnie. They are all basically showing the same thing, so maybe the part about finding bonnie in Ruin was cut content from the main game that was reused in the dlc
The newspaper says CONTINUE to go missing implying that there are more missing children. Cassie’s dad is probably dead after finding out things or the souls could be workers who died during construction. It must be dangerous to build on a collapsed restaurant or even architects would tried to raise concerns over building plans. Let’s be honest there is a multitude of reasons why people would be silenced, it’s such a dodgy company.
On the subject of the Proto-Freddy theory/why Freddy glitches out at the start of security breach theory: This is pretty much what happens with Roxy in Ruin. Once she recognizes Cassie, she basically reboots. As for the Cassie's dad theory, the 32(33 with Cassie's dad) theory would not only be all the Fazbear employees killed that are referenced in the games, but also, were all killed by Vanny and/or GGY. The other deaths in the pizzaplex we find out about in Tales, for example, don't fit that pattern. With Vanny/GGY (so Glitchtrap basically) as the connecting thread, it makes sense that whatever is possessing Bonnie is related as well. The Tales books do imply that GGY occurs after Bonnie was already replaced. So it's possible that Bonnie's death was not related to Vanny, Glitchtrap, GGY, the Mimic, the Storyteller, etc. If that's the case, it could have been a complete accident with the proto-Fredbear malfunctioning, and then the bosses just covering it up because they assumed it had to do with Monty (especially if Monty say, attacked the proto-Fredbear after seeing it kill Bonnie). The "vanny realizes Bonnie is possessed and further destroys it" thing makes the scene we find make a bit more sense. Cassie's Dad finds Bonnie in Gator Golf, and brings him to the back of Bonnie Bowl to work on it.
Another thing, there a cutout Bonnie in a hurrican (due to how cloudy it looks), or I should say Falling due to Bonnie's pose. The giant Ball bucket is called a hurrican (from one of SB messages about Monty), and comparing how Bonnie is broken & how Monty breaks to the bucket, there are simular things between them (mainly how the torso & legs are seperated)
"Proto-Freddy" Might just be a Retconned part, as the word wasn't originally planned but it was added in Ruin because it was ALWAYS supposed to be there They just never thought to make the model with the word on the foot the FIRST part of the game
For the why of Glamrock Bonnie being destroyed: wouldn't it make the most sense if he just stumbled onto a crime scene (and possibly being possessed by a murder victim), or just one of GGY's/Vannie's hiding spots with them in it?
Chica did it. I'm not joking. 1.) Bonnie's chest is smeared with a green substance. Monty Mystery mix is a green substance that we know is exclusive to Bonnie bowl. 2.) Monty Mystery mix causes Chica to malfunction and attack customers, staff, and other robots. We learn this in a note. Monty mystery mix is recalled and this is why it can only be found in Bonnie bowl. The staff put it there to keep it away from her. 3.) We've seen Chica destroy fellow robots in-game over food, like she does to the pizza-bot in the main-game. It's easy for her. 4.) Wet floor signs are used to indicate spills. Maybe the surrounding wet floor bots are alluding to the monty mystery mix. 5.) People will say Chica didn't do it because she doesn't have claws, and to that I say: Monty doesn't either. Monty didn't get claws until AFTER Bonnie was destroyed. The wound on Bonnie's chest looks like it was shattered by a hard impact, not claws.
Interesting theory, But I still think it was Vanny controlling Monty or Vanny using her STAFF Bots to frame Monty or Prototype Freddy being the true killer.
I have an entire video on this exact thing. Going into a bit of detail as well. I promise I'm not trying to self promote, I just really want some constructive thoughts about it. Hard to get out there on the algorithm with only 7 subs XD.
I love this theory but it could also be that Bonnie just has the ability to call for other animatronics. It isn't impossible either because we've seen it happen twice already. One is quite obvious,the black/dark blue glitch bunny thing in Ruin where it can't directly jumpscare kill you but it gets others to kill you for it. The second instance kinda went unnoticed by theorists but those Security STAFF bots in SB also did the same. Only they wave and sound an alarm intead of hacking/radio calling for backup. So I'd say Fazbear Entertainment just made Bonnie have access to the little PatPats since wet floors and bowling alleys together is a recipe for disaster.
my favorite things about fnaf theorists is that they're observant in the game. Finding clues and connecting environmental storytelling- theyre just my favorite
I dont think Cassie's dad is in Bonnie tbh. He is refered in past tense, not cus he is dead, but cus he has retired. Me and my gf has the theory that Cassie's dad is the Bonnie bully in FNaF 4 so he must be quite old during FNaF Ruin but not necessarily dead.
I love this new worker idea that ID brought up. This theory really adds to that and makes it far more interesting than Bonnie already was. (The Monty theory was just so basic and not really FNAFy, because it was dealing with random character personalities that were less of a spirit thing and more of a programming thing. I like this idea a lot more.)
You know I think the idea William Afton had his favorite creation Bonny the Bunny broken so he could be repaired so ironic. His creation, his Fursona effectively something clearly deep in his psyche which by his actions has become a foot note and no longer apart of the band
Just gotta say, I love how blunt you are about Freddy and Bonnie being boyfriends. Everyone else tries to dance around it, thank you for just stating the facts
Really really like this especially in conjunction with ID’s theory, and I think with one tweak it can explain why Bonnie was bumped off. If Mr. Cassie’sdad possesses Bonnie before he’s decommissioned it would give Vanny a reason for using Proto Freddy to destroy Bonnie. Bonnie could’ve even been the one to kill Mr. Cassie’sdad, causing him to posses it a la Baby
Something that feels off about the employees in the pat-pats is how young their noises sound. I think I'll stick to there being additional kids to the newspaper ones. Also DJ Sterf went about naming various bots like Juniper, Charlotte, Janet, and the 28th one Secret Billy. X) Something that bugs me on Glamrock Bonnie's reveal is he doesn't seem to have claws - fingers round as Chica's with no nails like the others, and the clash with the indigo bunny art still present in Ruin. Ive agreed on your older claim on indigo 's lack of glam accessories, and how it could link to yellow Chica from Storyteller, (even how she's guitarist) but Ruin doesn't show her yellow in the Monty gondola ride or that dress cutout before the Raceway. ID said perhaps they updated it for the public, though I still struggle with it.
There's actually a message explaining that! False Alarm SECURITY REPORT - A local police officer came by tonight. He said he was responding to an emergency call from someone inside the Pizzaplex. There is no way that is possible. I was the only one here and I certainly didn't make any outside calls. He wanted to look around, but I sent him away. Just another prank call. - Vanessa As head security officer she has a good alibi for the police
I was always curious why the wet floor bots sound like children screaming. The employees being the souls within them makes total sense story wise! I wonder if Fazbear Entertainment offered GREAT “life insurance” for so many people still wanting to work there😂💀
You're my favorite FNAF theorist at the moment. I love that you don't make assumptions and hammer them as official, instead you kinda leave things up to ppl's interpretation
Does anyone ever do that? I mean making assumptions and hammer them as official? Like, aside from RyeToast I watch Matpat, Fuhnaff and ID's Fantasy and none of them have ever done that as far as I know. I know there are others so it would be good to know, if any of the fnaf tubers do this.
@@oras7745 exactly, I wanted to specify that also fuhnaff and all the other "new" theorists are doing so well. In fact I wanted to give props to IDs fantasy too because she's great with interesting theories too (I didn't put all this because I figured it would have been too long)
@@oras7745 from the new theorists I'm following this period there are none that do that, but I remember back in the day when ppl made theories much more straightforward and hammered down (at least, that's what I remember)
@@4m3th33st I see, good to know! The way I see it, giving credits is always appreciated. Especially in the fnaf theorists space, since there has been some toxicity coming from viewers who think the people making theories try to hammer theirs as official. So I'd say, don't hesitate to give credit when you want to. :) I think it's nice when everyone is trying to be supportive of each other and it also takes away the room from toxic fnaf fans who can't handle it when someone does a theory they don't agree with.
I don't know if this is the correct theory but this is definitely the most impactful. And the best explanation that ties off the most loose ends for Bonnie and the wet floor bots
I don’t know who will see this, but Bonnie was dragged in there from the arcade. The blanket he’s laying on is carpeting from the arcade. I don’t know fully how he was broken, but I’m pretty sure he was dragged back to his bowling alley on carpet.
My biggest question about Bonnie is why he had a stage in Bonnie Bowl. Was it a secondary location? But then why is his green room behind it? Then again, he would be in that greenroom, but they’re just decoration, they’re robots. At minimum, he had 2 green rooms, one in rockstar row, one in the bowling alley, like the two stages, but my question again is just why???
Same! Did he perform solo there? Hnm, actually Monty has his little stage in Monty golf too... and you could say Chica "performs" in mazercise? So maybe thats something that happens
one thing i dont see people suggesting is that rather than Cassie's dad possessing Bonnie after it got damaged or being in there and them destroying it what if the proto freddy was used to take out her dad who while working there found out the truth and went to confide in Bonnie to get him to help (same way Greggory does with real freddy) and the prototype killed Bonnie for trying to protect cassie's dad in a battle on the catwalks Monty seeing Proto freddy take out Bonnie decides to get him trashes the prototype and starts trying to find where bonnie fell only to see real freddy who was undergoing repairs for an unrelated matter and think that Fazbear entertainment just rebuilt this killer because he is popular leading to his downward spiral of trying to usurp freddy so he can permanently wreck him
The Wet Floor Bots could have hollow spaces in them, perfect for vanny to stash a kidnapped/murdered child to leech agony/remnant out of, and they’re located all around the pizzaplex.
I adore that everyones so chill with freddy and bonnie being BFs that i havent seen a single comment about it, they’re canon and it makes me happy (then incredibly sad for freddy cuz poor bonnie omgggg)
People are chill about it while it is a headcanon. Probably if it turns canon it won't be as chill since in any other games it was never mentioned robots with personalities, that is just a fandom thing. Yes Roxanne and Chica on SB has it but it is programmed phrases and not actual emotions.
Even tho we only see a few pictures of missing people in the newspaper,the number doesn't have to be definite,but implying "more & more" people continue to go missing. So it's more than just that paper. & they're trying to show us with that in general.
I doubt Monty destroyed Bonnie, and if he did it wasn’t on purpose. “Prototype Freddy” is a more likely suspect. I bet that he was in that “Level 10 Pass Required” locked room with the broken glass and the gift box, down in P&S of the Pizzaplex.
Going off of this theory, I have a feeling that maybe vanny and glitch trap killed Cassie’s dad first, then he possessed Bonnie and then they destroyed him once they found out he was possessed so he couldn’t find anything else out. They limited him because he knew what they were planning (the all staff meeting) and knew he wanted to stop it before it was too late. Which could explain why he was attached to the wet floor signs, because the only reason he remained alive was to save them but he couldn’t, so when all of the souls are “released” his also is released because that’s what he was holding on for. Just what I thought watching this awesome theory!
i wanted to mention a problem i noticed about Monty being the "killer" of Bonnie (which seems like no one else notices) and that is Monty's Upgraded Claws, as in why does he have them? if Monty's normal non-upgraded claws are sharp and strong enough to break and decommission an animatroic, why upgrade the claws? i know the Upgraded Claws are for the Bass strings (and breaking chains) but c'mon, are those Bass strings made out of a f#&king titanium? maybe i'm overthinking it or maybe i'm underthinking, idk
If the argument is that only the upgraded claws could have done the damage, then I guess Bonnie unalived himself? Since, Bonnie would be the only one with the upgraded claws. The upgraded claws, like the eyes and voicebox, are upgrades for Freddy that have been given to the other animatronics for game reasons. The "he needs them to play bass" is an attempt to make it fit. The way that Monty gets his legs taken off, it may have previously been a speed upgrade for Freddy. That could still allow for busting down gates. In fact, that makes more sense than claws since you are busting through, not really tearing down. Perhaps a late in development decision was made that changing Freddy's hands would be easier to implement than having to swap out his legs, and having a noticeable change in speed might not have really worked, since he already varies in speed throughout the game. One way or the other, someone had to have taken out Bonnie without the upgraded claws since Bonnie would be the only one that has them. Unless there is a period of time where Monty filled in for Bonnie temporarily (they do call him the understudy) in which case, they upgrade Monty and have him fill in. They decide to go back to the original line up, and then Monty attacks Bonnie with the upgraded claws to make the position permanent. The bowling ball also speaks to some kind of post Bonnie decommission damage, whether to stage it like it was an accident, or as Rye implied, someone trying to deal with a possessed, albeit barely functional, animatronic.
this is the first time i'm hearing about "monty's legs was the original upgrade" and i have no idea where you got that from but since this is Security Breach (a game that rather scarp anything cool and add things last second ), i would not be surprised, at all
@@raikojanes5972 ;o really ? I thought that common knowledge, watchimg theories, people talk about this. There are many evidance. Like we even walk to monty legs when his destroyed and click collect, he doesnt even loose his claws when he is broken, etc. Im sure Dawko, Markeplier, Ryetoast mention these at some point
I've tried ID's vids quite a few times but for some reason I can never follow her. Glad you helped summarize her latest one. But as for the theory today, my main question is if it is true, to what ends? Like what does Cassie's Dad being in Bonnie mean outside of him guiding his fellow employees' souls to staff bots? just for them to all be deactivated when his daughter finally arrives. It seems like a lot of effort for the devs just to tell us dead employees are in the bots and Cassie's dad was in Bonnie. I don't see them hyping up "Where's Bonnie" just for that, so if this is accurate; it's telling us something to lead us towards answering something else. I had already thought the floor bots were related to the employees whom were implied to be killed but just never saw any reason why or why it would matter. I just wish we had some type of concrete answers to build off of, but this is also FNAF so yeah.. For the record, I'm not questioning to disprove, with everything involving FNAF I always ask - to what ends? The answer to that question is just as important as answering the mystery itself imo
I feel like Monty has to be the one who killed bonnie based on the symbolism in ruin of Monty getting electrocuted in the water after powering a neon sign of bonnie. I want to believe he didn’t do it so bad though 😢
Did you really think I wouldn't notice you used portal 2 soundtrack in a video. In all seriousness tho, this is probably the closest explanation we have on the connection between Bonnie and the wet floor signs. Great video.
I don't even remember which RyeToast fnaf video I watched first, but I do know that I subscribed as soon as I heard the "bake ourselves a theory" line. This channel is fantastic and I love it
i do like the wet floor bot part of this theory, though i'm not convinced about the prototype freddy idea, since the label on the freddy's foot might just be a retcon like other designs (ie roxanne's endo head) plus, this seems to take place after the princes quest ending, which would A:explain why there's the princes's sword in the third arcade cabinet (along with other PQ references in the hideout) and B:why freddy is missing his head and sports similar damage to that in the ending itself during normal SB, along with explaining why his body is in fazerblast in the first place so yeah, it seems the freddy we all love is the prototype freddy, just missing the fatherly attributes
The Roxy head thing isn’t a retcon or at least I don’t think it is, I think she was trying to put herself back together using a different endo which is why she has a different endo, and was trying to find one with eyes.
14:54 this doesn't exactly make sence, as you said that the bonnie animatronic was deactivated already, couldn't move, then the floor bots, THEN the destruction of bonnie... are you implying that the bowling ball was a later attack when she noticed the bots?
Bit of a different take, what if Cassie's Dad took over Bonnie before he was disassembled. It gives motive to having to remove Bonnie from the animatronic line up as a benevolent spirit who knows what is going on could prove to be a FazWrench in the plans of Vanessa and Glitch Trap.
you know i found a door in ruin that was kicked down by an animatronic and the foot print was dented into the door, to me the foot looked like freddys, and it was nearby monty golf as well so there's more evidence for the prototype freddy
I think we have one more missing employee: "Where is everyone? Leo was the only one who had a copy of the maze control key, but I haven't seen him for months. Maybe that creepy bot knows where the key is. Leo was supposed to train it to work the maze, instead he tricked the bot into doing busy work under the daycare theater. I'll check after the all staff meeting tonight." If he was fired they would be notified right? If he was the only one with the copy of the control key? I also have a theory for the motive for attacking Bonnie: In the room where we find Bonnie, we also find broken staff bot parts, more notably the green stained ones that match the one we find in front of the old pizza place underground. We know Vanny made Glamrocks dig it out. If Bonnie managed to fight off the control it would make sense for the Mimic to make staff bots (and Prototype) chase him and it would explain why there are broken staff bots around Bonnie. (It would also make sense for wet floor bots to protect him in that case - he was trying to help put an end to the murders) There is also this unused line from Freddy which does support the theory about the Prototype being aggressive: "I hear what some guests say about me. Bad things happened in the past. But that was not me. Those were older models - Flawed. I would never hurt anyone. You know that, right?" The line was removed but maybe the idea wasn't since we do have this line: "I have never been allowed in here before... this must be where I was born. Look at all the endos! They're all the same. Have I always been a Freddy? Am I Monty with a different shell? What if, I am not the first Glamrock Freddy? Are there more of me at other pizzerias? Do we all feel the same? Am I special? If I am mass-produced, am I still art?" (See connection to Monty? The one who would in this theory be framed for the attack? Remember the green gift in Prototype - another connection to Monty? His foot model also matches Monty's, not Freddy's. AND Monty hates Freddy for some reason? Too much to be a coincidence) The description of AR Golden Bonnie also reads "A prototype?" Which is sus.
Has anyone taken in to account that after getting the Monty Mystery Mix, if you look around on the bowling Alley, Endoskeletons come from behind the bowling Alley? Which is where we find Bonnie in ruin
I mean if you wanna make the argument for the wet floor bots and the newspaper kids souls, maybe more kids went missing during the several years between games
I'm a bit concerned about stating that the employees are the souls in the sign bots. The screams of terror heard when the mask is on are definitely children, and unless the Pizzaplex is violating child labor laws, the employees are probably not kids.
6:43 I don't know why people keep saying freddy and bonnie are boyfriends. They were best friends, they are robots, they cannot fall in love. The. Are. Robots. I say I love you to my best friend all the time, and he and I are not boyfriends. If you're gonna reply please keep it respectful. But people need to stop saying this, they are ROBOTS.
The newspaper says more residents go missing. Sure, the total that have gone missing could be 9, but I think it’s more depicting 9 people going missing in this current batch
I think that Bonnie could actually be possessed by Henry. The main issue with Cassie’s Dad being Bonnie is that for him to be dodging Cassie’s questions about what happened to Bonnie, he needs to, ya know, BE ALIVE, both so that he can know what happened to Bonnie AND be able to not answer Cassie when she asks questions about it. Bonnie being HENRY on the other hand allows these interactions between Cassie and her Dad to happen AND makes the situation more interesting. It’s possible that Bonnie and his claws were the ones originally being used to clear the way to the FNaF 6 location, but while down there Bonnie came into contact with Henry’s spirit, similarly to how some believe Michael’s spirit came to possess Freddy (Assuming Mike IS possessing Freddy) when Freddy was clearing the way to that same location. Will and Ness realised this and decided to get rid of Bonnie, they lured Bonnie to Monty Golf, and had the Prototype Freddy attack Bonnie up on the catwalks, this incident potentially damaging them both severely and Bonnie’s destruction. (Monty possibly witnessing this event thus leading to his distance for Freddy. The dude LITERALLY saw a version of Freddy destroy Bonnie HIS BESTIE AND LOVER) Henry still being trapped inside Bonnie despite the animatronic being beyond repair. As for the Wet Floor Bots I believe it to be as the other commenters have suggested. That the 9 people depicted in that newspaper are just the most recent victims of Afton, how’s spirits have been imprisoned within the Wet Floor Bots, helpless and scared, unable to do anything about Afton and his schemes. As for why Cassie deactivating the Wet Floor Bots and free the souls with would effect Bonnie I can’t say, perhaps you will find an answer to this puzzle.
I think that prototype glam rock Freddy was left behind after the new one came out, eventually escaped, but it was all damaged in a not a lot of programming, and eventually glam rock. Bonnie found him and he ripped him apart. because his programming was not that well it didn’t have any safety locks.
One thing that just came to mind is that Freddy Mentions that his Battery is artificially limited for Reasons (Sorry I forgot where he says this). Maybe Bonnie is the Reason that this limit even exists?
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12:50 What happened to Glamrock Bonnie in Security Breach?
Excited for this theory
Ok so this may sound weird but my theory is that Bonnie is possessed and so are the pat pats
The screaming voices when you disable them is the spirits being freed (possibly the kills by vanny ) and Bonnie can’t rest until the spirits can rest . Who possesses Bonnie I don’t know but here we are and I think that the theory is pretty good
Bonnie’s design is so weird. It doesn’t match the other Glamrocks. Sure, Roxy has clothes, but not like Bonnie. And why does Bonnie have an exercise band or whatever that is along with hair? Bonnie in RUIN is just weird.
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I don't think we should eliminate the fact Vanny could still have a motive in eliminating Bonnie- in fact, here's another hot take not a lot of people are considering:
All the Glamrocks have their upgrades, but Bonnie's fingers show no claws. Freddy even has claws... but Bonnie doesn't, nor does Chica and she can SHRED. Its quite possible Bonnie could still have claws but heck if we know what's what in he franchise missing some details. But I digress.
I want to talk to talk about a different feature Bonnie could potentially have, given he didn't have claws: Maybe he had augmented hearing? He is a RABBIT after all. And seeing as their creators gave all the Glamrocks special animal-like features in some retrospect, perhaps the acute hearing could help in another facet. Now hear me out a second (no pun intended, I swear!): With good enough hearing, perhaps Bonnie could probably help gently correct the Glamrocks with rhythm and literally keep an ear out for any missing notes or beats during performances (seeing as drummers, which they lack, usually help keep rhythm in some cases). This is a very important role in music to keep a certain pace and beat. Otherwise, songs can come out messy and fray.
Now with this in mind, Bonnie's own side affect to this augmented feature could be that he hears weird things. For instance: the weird clanging around in the vents. The clanging in the vents can be attributed to the missing little music men, true, but keep in mind its possible Vanny uses the vents too, seeing as there's one in Fazerblast that leads to her hideout and it looked used, as observed by Gregory. As it is, Vanny may potentially use the vents to navigate the PizzaPlex and stay out of sight of both human employees at first and Roxy, whose eyes COULD see her as a threat early on.
While this above part is a stretch, I wouldn't completely eliminate it. Anyways, maybe you can already see where I'm going with this?
Bonnie could've been the one to notice the weird noises, report it, and then started looking around for Vanny. After all, we did see that some low-budget air conditioning contractor had been summoned to the PizzaPlex before in one of the notes. They found nothing, apparently. Anyways, its possible Bonnie got too nosy and performed this investigation on his own, following the banging in the vents around and not wanting to involve his friends since apparently he cares about them and wouldn't characteristically want to mix them up with a possible threat. He started listening for the weird noises, and managed to find Vanny, maybe, and tried reporting her.
Now there's another thing to consider:
There was a couple notes that also say there was a DISTRESS CALL from the PizzaPlex itself and the cops showed up. Vanessa turned them away. Keep this detail in mind. Now also consider the fact Vanessa cut Freddy off from the main server at the beginning of the game. If she can do that to Freddy, then its not impossible to imagine that, after Bonnie started investigating her and discovered something, she got nervous and offed him, despite the fact his disappearance is rather high profile and messily done. Bonnie vanishing was obviously noticeable and felt, and it had people asking about him for WEEKS.
Vanessa would've had to remove him hastily and FAST, but she also would've had to cut him from the main server so he CAN'T send anymore distress signals to other staff and management. And no more impromptu police investigations while she's committing all this crime. Her work wasn't exactly low profile, as we see in-game. But she had to cut down a lot of people, and a Glamrock like Bonnie wasn't out of the question if he started hearing or seeing weird things. Its quite possible Bonnie knew too much.
As to how she dispatched him, I wager she could've used Monty to do it since its not like she can dispose of the animatronic rabbit herself bare-handed. Monty has always been unstable... so her hacking him and using him as a guinea pig for this hacking and using him to off Bonnie seems to fall within the realms of plausibility. This hacking however has ramifications: creating this instability in Monty that we see in-game. Its possible Monty's always been a little wild, but who the heck knows at this point?
There's a lot more little bread crumbs that we tend to write off- but I feel like SteelWool placed all these extra weird notes for a reason. This theory above I figured tied his disappearance together in some part... as to the little wet floor bots, I can only assume those were both staff and children. After all, the newspaper stated that 'disappearances CONTINUE to happen'. As in, its been on-going for a while and there's no confirmed number of victims officially for us to know. SteelWool omitted this exact number for a reason, I think. Perhaps to leave it to interpretation for the fans.
Still. All this death would definitely intrigue a curious enough Glamrock with good senses. I wouldn't doubt the others would've start to notice after a point... which is maybe why she started doing this hacking in the first place; a kind of protection from curious bots.
...I am also so sorry this is so long, omg. I wanted to shorten this but a lot of my train of thought would be misconstrued as stupidity, I feel if I didn't explain some things. I just wanted to provide evidence to some of my thoughts and it just... blew up. I apologize to anyone who was intimidated by the lengthy writing but I also thank any who bother going through it!
The newspaper does say residents CONTINUE to disappear, so I think it's very likely that the nine silhouettes are only the most recent cases.
Good point! If we assume this, then that clears up the fact that the staff bots screams are too young to be the workers.
Thats because the screams arnt coming from the bots, however the worker spirits are still staring at you. The child screaming is coming from the spirits of the recent missing children, and as you pointed out, might actually be a lot more missing than we thought, which makes the 'chorous' of voices more plausible - not just the limited amount on the list.
Either that, or we are hearing Charlie in the background of the pizzaplex.
Wait did no one notice that? I thought everyone saw it
@@Cloudedits0 idk man, I keep seeing these theories and it seems like everyone glosses over that tidbit, like they don't even really see it.
@@Cloudedits0 yeah but no one looks at the smaller details unlike the two of us
@@batmandalin2339 and fuhnaff
I really like the theory for Cassie's dad here. Instead of a dark reflection we get the light. A protective father instead of a monstrous one, and both in the Bonnies.
Ooo that’s a interesting perspective.
I like the exact number of employees lining up with the staff bots, and it would even explain the scooper if you wanted it to (it's a remnant extractor, and they said they were replacing them with staff bots. Turning them into staff bots wouldn't be too far fetched).
That's a fair point
they would also be some of the only people to actually know what happened to bonnie
Cassie's dad possessing Bonnie, if true, makes Ruin super dark. Cassie can end up re-killing her own dad, probably without even realizing.
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i mean most people don't find bonnie so it's debatable if finding and deactivating bonnie is canon, cause cassie's focus is finding gregory not the wet floor bots.
I mean if we can only deactivate Bonnie by deactivating every Wet Floor bot then surely Cassies putting his soul to rest, not killing him again.
@@TealFirefox4387 To be honest, originally, the "Thank you" line was originally intended to be Glamrock Bonnie's, according to what some have said.
Apparently, he was supposed to have a bigger role in Ruin... But ended up regulated to side character.
Anyway, if the "Th-thank you" meant anything, Glamrock Bonnie wanted to die, but could not self-terminate.
@@Victor-056it wasn’t it was never planned for bonnie
You know what would’ve been interesting for security breach, if glamrock freddy was the only original character of animatronic and all his old friends were replaced by new ones, Monty takes Bonnie’s place, Roxanne takes foxys place, and a new animatronic takes chicas, that would make freddy missing his friends so much more sad.
That's prob why he let gregory destroy the others, and also why freddy burned the pizzaplex without hesitation.
@@MichelaIaccarino-is8wlFreddy didn’t let Gregory he didn’t know Gregory did it until it was already done
The idea of at least 32 victims is part of why I have such a problem with FNAF’s story now. Before, we just had 5 dead kids, then bumped up to 7, to move this story forward. A handful of murders in a small town. It felt grounded and somewhat real. But over two dozen murders in a massive sci-fi shopping mall? It widens the stakes but makes everything feel less personal, less dramatic. Before, we tormented ourselves with learning the name of the 6th grave stone. Now we have to keep track of potentially dozens, it’s just overwhelming. Personal qualms aside, great video.
and the five dead kids were never given backstories or expanded upon, they just existed and it’s probably gonna be the same for those 32 kids
@@kathryn74 32 workers*
I agree that fnaf was better when it was simpler, but I will say that real serial killers have had shocking numbers of victims, so that part isn't really outlandish.
Maybe they have some kind of software to perfectly mimic the missing people voices to have them call the family and pretend they are running off. Maybe letters written in their handwriting. Fake photos of them off somewhere else before they go missing. Etc. I mean this is in the future and we already have deep fakes now. who is to say fazbears (who have been ahead of the game with technology) couldnt make it indistinguishable?
I mean. I get it. Even in the beginning ( the earlier games) you got to question why did no one get suspicious of rotting corpse smelling animatronics? You have to rationalize that maybe the bodies were removed when suspicion got big. Then by that time the smell remained but no bodies. But at the same time bodily fluids would still be present. There would be something suspicious about that. So you just got to assume people dumb in a small town lol.
This is definitely harder to rationalize. I'm just trying to rationalize this best I can.
I agree, I think Scott and SteelWool forgot that this originally took place in Hurricane, Utah. A place that has a population of about 20,000. There would be no reason for there to be a big mega-mall with crazy sci-fi robots and AI workers there.
Gregory saying "Freddy, if I leave now, nothing will change will it? There will be more disappearances." implies there are a bunch of unaccounted for people that could easily add up to 27 or however many there would need to be
I saw a wet floor sign in the movies last week. My immediate reaction was ‘Oh - patpat!’
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The newspapers do say that the disappearances are “continuing,” meaning that the silhouettes we see on the cover are definitely not the only kids who disappeared and could just as easily be the remainder of the theoretical 32 you described. I do like your theory that Cassie’s dad could be haunting Glamrock Bonnie though!
Frankly, I don't know if we need to evidence pointing to 32 distinct children that went missing at the Pizzaplex in order to assume that said number is possible. The pizzaplex is vast, much more so than any previous FazEnt establishment, thus, the number of dead/missing children ought get increased as well. Of course, this is all just an assumption on my part.
Also worthy to note that it doesn’t just say that children continue to go missing, rather they use “residents” could imply that they aren’t just capturing and killin children anymore but adults too?🤷🏽♂️
@@klaitonyoung5707 True, true, but I have a hunch that the wet floor bots are possessed exclusively by children. The fact that when you approach them wearing the VANNI mask, the screams that emanate sound like they're from children, combined with their overall small stature just draws me to that conclusion. Definitely not set in stone, of course.
You know, looking back on it, have adults possessed ANYTHING in the FNAF franchise before? I'm pretty sure every instance of possession (the puppet, Circus Baby, the original cast), has been done by a child. I guess it'd just feel weird if the wet floor bots of all things turned out to be the first instance of a grown-up possessing something in the franchise.
@@vsnake8663didn’t William Afton who is adult possessed Springtrap though?
Also Michael possessed his own body as an adult too.
@@michaelao.7232 To be honest, I've never interpreted those two examples as possession so much as just "not dying", so to speak. The wiki is a little vague about it too, describing both Springtrap and Michael Afton as being "reanimated" (For example, when describing Michael coming back after Ennard leaves him, the wiki says "After being reanimated and becoming a living corpse"). This differs from the animatronics like Freddy, whom the wiki explicitly describe as "possessed". I suppose at the end of the day, the idea of whether or not William and Michael possess their own corpses comes down to a matter of interpretation.
Glamrock bonnie is some how my fav version of bonnie and we know jack diddly about him 😩
Lmao valid tho
Uhh I have a crush on him tbh
He’s hot… am i crazy
Your theories never fail to deliver an interesting and unique take on FNaF Lore !
I'm glad you think so!
@@RyeToastThe numbers and general concept of the wet floor bots and Bonnie being possessed work.
Perhaps, there may be more evidence/reason to the Bonnie possession specifically.
Her father may have not finished making additional security nodes by the time of his death.
In possessing Bonnie he could be able to somewhat override/overpower the Glitchtrap virus too.
So perhaps in the lead up to Security Breech he may have already died and possessed Bonnie.
Vanny may have seen seen his odd behaviour in his movement around the Pizza Plex after hour's as a potential threat to her objectives.
Glitxhtrap may have even tipped Vanny off about him adding these additional security nodes, even if they were not directly impeding Glitchtrap himself; Glitchtrap may have suspected they were being built up to become a potential prison attempting to be built in secret due to the lockout functionality.
Perhaps there may be some security nodes, broken or intact, near where Bonnie is found.
It seems that a Fazwrench is required to disassemble the nodes, is there any sign of one near Bonnie? Perhaps even a broken one or something similar in appearance modified into his body?
None the less, it's quite probable that Vanny & Glitchtrap were able to disable the Bonnie animatronic as a result of it acting without their instruction.
Given Bonnie Bowl was Bonnies themed area, his claws were also likely suited for bowling as well as playing bass.
So if similar claws were retrofitted to another animatronic, then it stands to reason they would be able to have the same qualities.
Maybe there is some indication that Bonnie's legs were struck (pun intended) by a high speed bowling ball.
As this would be a great method of catching Bonnie, or rather the soul possessing Bonnie, by surprise while also limiting his ability to get away from his attacker.
Are the other areas of damage to Bonnie consistent with claw or bowling ball, perhaps even Bass, impact damage?
Just spitballing ideas, possible leads to follow etc.
Great video, would be interesting to see if there is any more contextual evidence or environmental information that's consistent with the idea.
@@soulsurvivor8293 nice essay 😂
Great theory. I wonder, though, if Bonnie's destruction was something much more simpler and comical: Bonnie went to Gator Golf for unknown reasons, and while there ignored a "wet floor" sign and got his feet wet. He then returned to Bonnie Bowl and went to bowl a game, presumably around the time the Pizzeria opened at 6:00 AM. Because of his wet feet, he slipped and slid down the lane, and was knocked into the machinery/ball return by the pin gate, where he was damaged beyond repair. The wet floor bots could represent the children (and even parents) who witnessed this happen. Presumably Fazbear Entertainment would have paid them off to keep quiet about it or threatened legal action to the parents, hence why turning off all the bots also turns off Bonnie, effectively "erasing" the incident.
Honestly based and level headed tbh
Classic shady fazbear entertainment move
FNAF is an amazing phenomenon, it literally has a huge fandom that exists just to one day finally resolve the story.
I love how much RyeToast has improved with his theories and the quality of his videos, Love your theories
Thank you!! That means so much 🤍
No problem just keep being you, and keep baking those theories!
Cassie: *starts killing all the PatPats*
Bonnie: *CONFUSED SCREAMING*
While I am unsure about the wet floor bots, I do think it would be an interesting theory if Bonnie indeed got possessed by Cassie's dad, cause I really do feel like there has to be more of a connection there since her dad gets mentioned multiple times and we all know fnaf doesn't just do that without a reason.
For the wet floorbot souls.
Remember. The newspaper from the alley says residents "CONTINUE" to disappear. The 9 silhouettes are just the 9 latest missing people. There ARE others.
Or there were 8 missing people before and the newspaper just added a ninth photo in the latest news report. There's no way to know, really.
@@PhantasieTranslate
True. I write my comments as I think of them so I don't forget. So I wrote this before Toast went into the employee count. Which actually makes ALOT of sense.
🎵🎶”That’s the waaaaay, they became ‘The Mis-sing Bunch’!”
@@ItsSuperMoosh
The Kid victims souls were probably placed into the Wet Floor Bots, as The bots around Bonnie with him being in the middle seems very similar to Givr
gifts, give life.
With other souls probably being put into STAFF Bots.
I saw a weird theory on Glamrock Bonnie. Someone pointed out that Glamrock Bonnie eyes are glowing bright yellow, and Helpi eyes are glowing yellow. Coincidentally you can get a AR Helpi plush in the room where Bonnie is found in. I don’t know if this means anything, but I found it interesting.
It's tough to say with little info but helpi is part of the pizzaplex AI. To connect with this theory that the eyes glow yellow cause they contain souls: perhaps it could be the souls trying to do something within the system. Would make sense with the workers, since they would know to an extent what is going on. Idk about the scream tho, since it is child like- (maybe they surround the bot cause it is the closest thing to an adult they know? Or just the missing children instead? Who knows at this point.)
@@DraugamerLIMthe big problem with this connection personally is the Mimic. Helpi does seem to want Cassie to move forward to the Mimic, and even uses clear manipulation to get her there. With this mind you would think it would be Cassie, and it wouldn’t make sense for the previous victims of the Vanny and GGY to want to help the Mimic because the Mimic is the reason why they died.
@@personismaybe0610 true, but it is fun to consider the possibilities. Then again, theories say that Elizabeth and Charlie are supposedly the two souls fighting for control. Both can be plausible, just one is more "active" than the other (like glitchtrap represented in Help Wanted, has both purple and green, perhaps one tries to tell the story is real and you need to get away while the other is convincing you that it is not real and I'm definitely not gonna control your mind)
Maybe it's my desire for FNAF to not overcomplicate things, but I still think it was Monty. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one, such as Vanny being Vanessa. Maybe Monty was planning to ambush Freddy but Bonnie showed up instead.
Or maybe the wet floor bots just ganged up on him idk
both of these ideas will be canon for me until Steelwool confirms otherwise, tbh, just so i can live my life in peace 😅
I personally like to believe that Vanessa at first wanted to test the virus and tried it on Monty first, maybe Bonnie knew what was up and she just went along and controlled Monty to destroy Bonnie.
One could almost imagine that the reason why Bonnie was chosen to be destroyed and not any other animatronic was actually because Cassie’s dad’s spirit was possessing Bonnie. That would actually clear up the loose end as to WHY Bonnie was destroyed in the first place now that we know none of Bonnie’s parts were stolen.
The thing is, I'm pretty sure Bonnie is destroyed while Cassie's dad is still around. I'd have to look at the item messages again to be 100% sure, but one of them is along the lines of "My dad would never tell me why they replaced Bonnie", which heavily implies he's still alive at the time of Bonnie's decommissioning
@@YellowSkarmory aw, yeah you’re right. It’s been a few weeks.
I think when Cassie mentions that the AR Monty plush is hard to look at, maybe it’s becuase when Monty became the base player, not everyone was keen to this new change. Maybe people didn’t like Monty as much as how people loved Bonnie. Which would explain why he’s angry.
I thought Monty was angry because he didn’t want to be a replacement
I agree to what IDs Fantasy has said, it does seem that The Prototype Freddy isn’t our original Freddy, and Monty didn’t cause Bonnie to be destroyed.
Monty only got his claws after Bonnie was decommissioned, so he wouldn’t have caused the slash that’s on Bonnie’s torso, and it’s said in one of the duffle bags, that Monty would be seen in the catwalks of Monty golf during performances.
In the Monty Ride, we see a cutout of Bonnie, looking like he’s about to fall, and Freddy with his head off of his body in the same area. Who’s to say that Monty witnessed Bonnie being pushed off of the catwalks, and that’s why the staff keeps finding him there. He’s using the catwalks to find Bonnie, which was the last place Bonnie was at.
As for the headless Freddy, it could be that Prototype Freddy was the original Freddy, but caused Bonnie to fall off the catwalks by slashing him, and causing him to be destroyed. This could explain why Bonnie was lured around the Pizzaplex. Even the Freddy poster in Bonnie’s room shows that Bonnie and Freddy have a special relationship.
Even in security breach, Freddy mentions he doesn’t go to Bonnie Bowl anymore, because he misses Bonnie, but why would he not want to go to Bonnie Bowl if he misses Bonnie? It’s possible that Freddy was manipulated by Vanny to lure Bonnie to a place to destroy him, with Monty witnessing it happening, which explains why Monty has an irrational behavior.
He’s mimicking how a human being reacts when losing a friend. Sometimes it’s sadness, but it can also be irrational behavior, which explains Monty’s destructive behavior.
Freddy probably knows that he’s responsible for causing Bonnie to be decommissioned, which is why he doesn’t go to the one place that reminds him of the one person he cares about.
While that could be the case, it also isn't odd for people to avoid an area a loved one frequented or that just reminds them of their loved one. My brother didn't handle our dad's death well at all and hates reminders of him, because he hasn't let himself fully grieve. He can't talk about our dad without getting angry and storming off either. And it's been years now, not just a short amount of time, so it isn't just because it's fresh grief. If Bonnie's decommissioning was mystery, then it would be hard to move on, since Freddy would have no closure, which is important for grief. I think if prototype Freddy was the one to destroy Bonnie, this Freddy would not remember that. I can't see Glitchtrap (or Mimic1) and Vanny allowing the new Freddy to retain that memory. It would be too risky and since an animatronic can be programmed, they could easily erase that memory. In the Burntrap ending of Security Breach, Freddy didn't remember being down there until he saw the sink hole and it triggered suppressed memories. Which makes me think Vanny, Glitchtrap or heck, even Gregory (as GGY when he was possessed), programmed him not to remember that... anyway, sorry for the long comment, lol.
And the cutouts from the Monty ride imply that Monty in fact idolized Bonnie. If that theory is true, and if Prototype Freddy destroyed Bonnie, then that could also explain why Monty is resentful towards Freddy and acting all aggressive. And if that was the case, I wouldn't really blame him.
Good point. 🤔😀👍
Yeah.
@@clydeandfriendsNot true Monty doesn’t have any resentment towards Freddy
Personally i think this is a pretty decent shot at what the floor bots are. My only issue is when you approach to deactivate them they have the scream of what sounds like children. I’m more inclined to side with the 8 missing children, but honestly I’m not too hot on that one either. Anyones theory is game right now tbh
A lot of the sounds in this franchise are the edited laughs or cries of real children (used to be Scott's own kids) so it's possibly just a theme or coincidence.
I refuse to believe Monty's guilty, the truth must be revealed!
_Markiplier_
Simp
Now the real question is who was actually their with dawko when glamrock bonnie was found
Well, we know for a fact Mark was there. Maybe MatPat.
Can we point out the fact that this theory requires us to believe that Vanny was somehow able to kill 25 people quickly enough that none of them could get away and not get caught
Neurotoxin. Get glados up in this bitch. But yeah I don’t really buy it either lol
Yea,and somehow she couldn't kill one lil' shxt called Gregory...either she sucks at her job or he's just that slick.
This is a very strong theory imo. I’d also like to note that many theorists believe that Cassie’s dad wore the Bonnie mask in FNAF 4. Though SB and Ruin obviously weren’t planned at the time, that would be a great use of an old detail to serve as foreshadowing for new players going through the games in order.
Keep up the great work! You really sold me on this theory /gen
I theorised that Bonnie could simply have full access and control of wet floor bots if ever needed. That way Fazbear has an AI doing janitorial service for them on a massive scale throughout the building, so while still active but destroyed, all Bonnie could do was watch us, Vanessa and everyone else without being able to do anything.
This also being a nod to Fnaf 1 as Bonnie can be found hiding in the janitor’s closet.
I hesitate to say that the employees are haunting the wet floor bots as it’s more likely that they haunt the Nightmarionne Staff Bots. It’s heavily believed that like Glitchtrap being a virus of William’s agony, Nightmarionne in Help Wanted was also a virus of Charlie’s agony. And while uploading the Glitchtrap virus to the systems of the Pizzaplex, Vanny unintentionally uploaded the Nightmarionne virus as well. Then the all staff meeting happened and Vanny hacked the Staff Bots or the Glamrock Endos to kill all of them in brutal ways. Or she dumped them all in the sewer to rot, then Fazbear dumped other defective Staff Bots in the sewers along with them.
Nightmarionne took this opportunity to guide the souls of these employees into these Staff Bots, becoming Nightmarionne themed to symbolise that. Now Nightmarionne has an army it can use to fight Vanny and Glitchtrap but it’s too late. Vanny contained and trapped the Nightmarionne virus in the server room beneath Fazbear blast. That’s why we see the Staff bits in that room, they’re trying their best to protect their leader. However, Nightmarionne did get away with one other thing, she infected some arcade machines in the east arcade and guided her fellow souls to them. Explaining why some of them may act so weird. And just in time she guided Cassidy to Princess Quest so she could join the hunt on Glitchtrap, and finish him off for good this time.
These are all just my thoughts though.
What I never understood about SB and Ruin is why Fazbear Ent., a multimillion, maybe even multibillion dollar company couldn’t just make a new Glamrock Bonnie.
bc they’re extremely lazy, they literally let Afton break out in the first place, and Help Wanted was js them doing damage control for William Afton, also all the employees were in the dark the entire time based on the “Do we have a official statement?” message
Because they’re cheapskates.
I think it's AI. The Security Breach game+dlc have an ongoing theme of AI, with the mimics and even little things like Roxy seeming to struggle with becoming self-aware. I think that the screams are from the service bots gaining awareness but not being able to handle it. They lead you to Bonnie, who's not only aware but trapped in a body that can't move. They're asking you to mercy kill him. It's why they only reveal his location after it's VERY obvious that the player is doing this on purpose.
I think in the base game the 4 security bot around 1 security bot, is a direct hint at the fate of Bonnie. They are all basically showing the same thing, so maybe the part about finding bonnie in Ruin was cut content from the main game that was reused in the dlc
The newspaper says CONTINUE to go missing implying that there are more missing children. Cassie’s dad is probably dead after finding out things or the souls could be workers who died during construction. It must be dangerous to build on a collapsed restaurant or even architects would tried to raise concerns over building plans. Let’s be honest there is a multitude of reasons why people would be silenced, it’s such a dodgy company.
On the subject of the Proto-Freddy theory/why Freddy glitches out at the start of security breach theory: This is pretty much what happens with Roxy in Ruin. Once she recognizes Cassie, she basically reboots.
As for the Cassie's dad theory, the 32(33 with Cassie's dad) theory would not only be all the Fazbear employees killed that are referenced in the games, but also, were all killed by Vanny and/or GGY. The other deaths in the pizzaplex we find out about in Tales, for example, don't fit that pattern. With Vanny/GGY (so Glitchtrap basically) as the connecting thread, it makes sense that whatever is possessing Bonnie is related as well.
The Tales books do imply that GGY occurs after Bonnie was already replaced. So it's possible that Bonnie's death was not related to Vanny, Glitchtrap, GGY, the Mimic, the Storyteller, etc. If that's the case, it could have been a complete accident with the proto-Fredbear malfunctioning, and then the bosses just covering it up because they assumed it had to do with Monty (especially if Monty say, attacked the proto-Fredbear after seeing it kill Bonnie). The "vanny realizes Bonnie is possessed and further destroys it" thing makes the scene we find make a bit more sense. Cassie's Dad finds Bonnie in Gator Golf, and brings him to the back of Bonnie Bowl to work on it.
Another thing, there a cutout Bonnie in a hurrican (due to how cloudy it looks), or I should say Falling due to Bonnie's pose.
The giant Ball bucket is called a hurrican (from one of SB messages about Monty), and comparing how Bonnie is broken & how Monty breaks to the bucket, there are simular things between them (mainly how the torso & legs are seperated)
I'm so thrilled to have come across you and IDsFantasy. Your FNAF theories are always entertaining and informative.
"Proto-Freddy"
Might just be a Retconned part, as the word wasn't originally planned but it was added in Ruin because it was ALWAYS supposed to be there
They just never thought to make the model with the word on the foot the FIRST part of the game
For the why of Glamrock Bonnie being destroyed: wouldn't it make the most sense if he just stumbled onto a crime scene (and possibly being possessed by a murder victim), or just one of GGY's/Vannie's hiding spots with them in it?
Chica did it. I'm not joking.
1.) Bonnie's chest is smeared with a green substance. Monty Mystery mix is a green substance that we know is exclusive to Bonnie bowl.
2.) Monty Mystery mix causes Chica to malfunction and attack customers, staff, and other robots. We learn this in a note. Monty mystery mix is recalled and this is why it can only be found in Bonnie bowl. The staff put it there to keep it away from her.
3.) We've seen Chica destroy fellow robots in-game over food, like she does to the pizza-bot in the main-game. It's easy for her.
4.) Wet floor signs are used to indicate spills. Maybe the surrounding wet floor bots are alluding to the monty mystery mix.
5.) People will say Chica didn't do it because she doesn't have claws, and to that I say: Monty doesn't either. Monty didn't get claws until AFTER Bonnie was destroyed. The wound on Bonnie's chest looks like it was shattered by a hard impact, not claws.
I love this.
Interesting theory, But I still think it was Vanny controlling Monty or Vanny using her STAFF Bots to frame Monty or Prototype Freddy being the true killer.
I have an entire video on this exact thing. Going into a bit of detail as well. I promise I'm not trying to self promote, I just really want some constructive thoughts about it. Hard to get out there on the algorithm with only 7 subs XD.
Huh that's actually a really good and interesting theory
I love this theory but it could also be that Bonnie just has the ability to call for other animatronics. It isn't impossible either because we've seen it happen twice already. One is quite obvious,the black/dark blue glitch bunny thing in Ruin where it can't directly jumpscare kill you but it gets others to kill you for it. The second instance kinda went unnoticed by theorists but those Security STAFF bots in SB also did the same. Only they wave and sound an alarm intead of hacking/radio calling for backup. So I'd say Fazbear Entertainment just made Bonnie have access to the little PatPats since wet floors and bowling alleys together is a recipe for disaster.
i love how hes grooming his cat while saying it all
He needed it lol
my favorite things about fnaf theorists is that they're observant in the game. Finding clues and connecting environmental storytelling- theyre just my favorite
I dont think Cassie's dad is in Bonnie tbh. He is refered in past tense, not cus he is dead, but cus he has retired. Me and my gf has the theory that Cassie's dad is the Bonnie bully in FNaF 4 so he must be quite old during FNaF Ruin but not necessarily dead.
I love this new worker idea that ID brought up.
This theory really adds to that and makes it far more interesting than Bonnie already was.
(The Monty theory was just so basic and not really FNAFy, because it was dealing with random character personalities that were less of a spirit thing and more of a programming thing. I like this idea a lot more.)
You know I think the idea William Afton had his favorite creation Bonny the Bunny broken so he could be repaired so ironic. His creation, his Fursona effectively something clearly deep in his psyche which by his actions has become a foot note and no longer apart of the band
Just gotta say, I love how blunt you are about Freddy and Bonnie being boyfriends. Everyone else tries to dance around it, thank you for just stating the facts
They're boyfriends and it's great
They're not. They're literally just robots.
Heyyy buddy rye toast, i respect your agenda and all but no need to push it down our throats, we got innocent children here!!!!
@@Bullying_Tanaka facts! Fnaf is a children's franchise and he needs to stop preying on children's vulnerable minds. Reporting to youtube
@FusionfallHQ5000
A game series about murderous Robots, dead kids, etc....is ok, but gay reference crosses the line?
You're pathetic.
Really really like this especially in conjunction with ID’s theory, and I think with one tweak it can explain why Bonnie was bumped off. If Mr. Cassie’sdad possesses Bonnie before he’s decommissioned it would give Vanny a reason for using Proto Freddy to destroy Bonnie. Bonnie could’ve even been the one to kill Mr. Cassie’sdad, causing him to posses it a la Baby
That's what I was thinking too.
Wait but didn’t Cassie’s dad mention Bonnie already being destroyed before he died
@@shieldlesscap6124 I don't remember off hand, I'll have to go back and check
Something that feels off about the employees in the pat-pats is how young their noises sound. I think I'll stick to there being additional kids to the newspaper ones. Also DJ Sterf went about naming various bots like Juniper, Charlotte, Janet, and the 28th one Secret Billy. X)
Something that bugs me on Glamrock Bonnie's reveal is he doesn't seem to have claws - fingers round as Chica's with no nails like the others, and the clash with the indigo bunny art still present in Ruin. Ive agreed on your older claim on indigo 's lack of glam accessories, and how it could link to yellow Chica from Storyteller, (even how she's guitarist) but Ruin doesn't show her yellow in the Monty gondola ride or that dress cutout before the Raceway. ID said perhaps they updated it for the public, though I still struggle with it.
The amount of people who've gone missing in these restaurants but the police literally did nothing is the real mystery. How?
There's actually a message explaining that!
False Alarm
SECURITY REPORT - A local police officer came by tonight. He said he was responding to an emergency call from someone inside the Pizzaplex. There is no way that is possible. I was the only one here and I certainly didn't make any outside calls. He wanted to look around, but I sent him away. Just another prank call. - Vanessa
As head security officer she has a good alibi for the police
"Freddy and Bonnie are boyfriends. This is canon. I don't make the rules, i just say them."
Preach, Toast 🙌
A true work of art, a masterpiece. I will be hanging every frame of this video in my greenroom
Anything for you Mr. Gator King
I was always curious why the wet floor bots sound like children screaming. The employees being the souls within them makes total sense story wise!
I wonder if Fazbear Entertainment offered GREAT “life insurance” for so many people still wanting to work there😂💀
"Freddy and Bonnie are boyfriends, I don't make the rules. I just say them."
thanks for this peak ryetoast
you know with time your theories are getting much better! this one makes sense and can definetly be seen as true with no plot holes
You're my favorite FNAF theorist at the moment. I love that you don't make assumptions and hammer them as official, instead you kinda leave things up to ppl's interpretation
Does anyone ever do that? I mean making assumptions and hammer them as official?
Like, aside from RyeToast I watch Matpat, Fuhnaff and ID's Fantasy and none of them have ever done that as far as I know.
I know there are others so it would be good to know, if any of the fnaf tubers do this.
@@oras7745 exactly, I wanted to specify that also fuhnaff and all the other "new" theorists are doing so well. In fact I wanted to give props to IDs fantasy too because she's great with interesting theories too (I didn't put all this because I figured it would have been too long)
@@oras7745 from the new theorists I'm following this period there are none that do that, but I remember back in the day when ppl made theories much more straightforward and hammered down (at least, that's what I remember)
@@4m3th33st I see, good to know!
The way I see it, giving credits is always appreciated. Especially in the fnaf theorists space, since there has been some toxicity coming from viewers who think the people making theories try to hammer theirs as official.
So I'd say, don't hesitate to give credit when you want to. :)
I think it's nice when everyone is trying to be supportive of each other and it also takes away the room from toxic fnaf fans who can't handle it when someone does a theory they don't agree with.
@@oras7745 thank you for the advice, friendly human! I will keep it in mind 💞
I don't know if this is the correct theory but this is definitely the most impactful. And the best explanation that ties off the most loose ends for Bonnie and the wet floor bots
I don’t know who will see this, but Bonnie was dragged in there from the arcade.
The blanket he’s laying on is carpeting from the arcade.
I don’t know fully how he was broken, but I’m pretty sure he was dragged back to his bowling alley on carpet.
i dont care if youre wrong or not, you still tell interesting interpretations in the form of decent stories
My biggest question about Bonnie is why he had a stage in Bonnie Bowl. Was it a secondary location? But then why is his green room behind it? Then again, he would be in that greenroom, but they’re just decoration, they’re robots. At minimum, he had 2 green rooms, one in rockstar row, one in the bowling alley, like the two stages, but my question again is just why???
Same! Did he perform solo there?
Hnm, actually Monty has his little stage in Monty golf too... and you could say Chica "performs" in mazercise?
So maybe thats something that happens
one thing i dont see people suggesting is that rather than Cassie's dad possessing Bonnie after it got damaged or being in there and them destroying it
what if the proto freddy was used to take out her dad who while working there found out the truth and went to confide in Bonnie to get him to help (same way Greggory does with real freddy) and the prototype killed Bonnie for trying to protect cassie's dad in a battle on the catwalks
Monty seeing Proto freddy take out Bonnie decides to get him trashes the prototype and starts trying to find where bonnie fell only to see real freddy who was undergoing repairs for an unrelated matter and think that Fazbear entertainment just rebuilt this killer because he is popular leading to his downward spiral of trying to usurp freddy so he can permanently wreck him
The Wet Floor Bots could have hollow spaces in them, perfect for vanny to stash a kidnapped/murdered child to leech agony/remnant out of, and they’re located all around the pizzaplex.
I adore that everyones so chill with freddy and bonnie being BFs that i havent seen a single comment about it, they’re canon and it makes me happy (then incredibly sad for freddy cuz poor bonnie omgggg)
People are chill about it while it is a headcanon. Probably if it turns canon it won't be as chill since in any other games it was never mentioned robots with personalities, that is just a fandom thing. Yes Roxanne and Chica on SB has it but it is programmed phrases and not actual emotions.
THEY ARE ROBOTS
Even tho we only see a few pictures of missing people in the newspaper,the number doesn't have to be definite,but implying "more & more" people continue to go missing. So it's more than just that paper. & they're trying to show us with that in general.
That's totally valid, I was just trying to see if there was a number we could try and prove
@@RyeToast definitely,I love all the theories^^
But isn't Cassidys dad the "Take a Mask. Take a mask!" Bot we see in ruin and help wanted 2
Why Monty hated him is likely because Bonnie was his idol and early Freddy killed him
I doubt Monty destroyed Bonnie, and if he did it wasn’t on purpose. “Prototype Freddy” is a more likely suspect. I bet that he was in that “Level 10 Pass Required” locked room with the broken glass and the gift box, down in P&S of the Pizzaplex.
Who killed bonnie is the modern version of who did the bite of 87
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Going off of this theory, I have a feeling that maybe vanny and glitch trap killed Cassie’s dad first, then he possessed Bonnie and then they destroyed him once they found out he was possessed so he couldn’t find anything else out. They limited him because he knew what they were planning (the all staff meeting) and knew he wanted to stop it before it was too late. Which could explain why he was attached to the wet floor signs, because the only reason he remained alive was to save them but he couldn’t, so when all of the souls are “released” his also is released because that’s what he was holding on for. Just what I thought watching this awesome theory!
i wanted to mention a problem i noticed about Monty being the "killer" of Bonnie (which seems like no one else notices) and that is Monty's Upgraded Claws, as in why does he have them? if Monty's normal non-upgraded claws are sharp and strong enough to break and decommission an animatroic, why upgrade the claws? i know the Upgraded Claws are for the Bass strings (and breaking chains) but c'mon, are those Bass strings made out of a f#&king titanium?
maybe i'm overthinking it or maybe i'm underthinking, idk
Because the whole upgraded claws thing was a last minute addition. We were suppose to get the legs. Thats why it doesnt make sense
If the argument is that only the upgraded claws could have done the damage, then I guess Bonnie unalived himself? Since, Bonnie would be the only one with the upgraded claws.
The upgraded claws, like the eyes and voicebox, are upgrades for Freddy that have been given to the other animatronics for game reasons. The "he needs them to play bass" is an attempt to make it fit. The way that Monty gets his legs taken off, it may have previously been a speed upgrade for Freddy. That could still allow for busting down gates. In fact, that makes more sense than claws since you are busting through, not really tearing down. Perhaps a late in development decision was made that changing Freddy's hands would be easier to implement than having to swap out his legs, and having a noticeable change in speed might not have really worked, since he already varies in speed throughout the game.
One way or the other, someone had to have taken out Bonnie without the upgraded claws since Bonnie would be the only one that has them. Unless there is a period of time where Monty filled in for Bonnie temporarily (they do call him the understudy) in which case, they upgrade Monty and have him fill in. They decide to go back to the original line up, and then Monty attacks Bonnie with the upgraded claws to make the position permanent.
The bowling ball also speaks to some kind of post Bonnie decommission damage, whether to stage it like it was an accident, or as Rye implied, someone trying to deal with a possessed, albeit barely functional, animatronic.
this is the first time i'm hearing about "monty's legs was the original upgrade" and i have no idea where you got that from but since this is Security Breach (a game that rather scarp anything cool and add things last second ), i would not be surprised, at all
@@raikojanes5972 ;o really ? I thought that common knowledge, watchimg theories, people talk about this. There are many evidance. Like we even walk to monty legs when his destroyed and click collect, he doesnt even loose his claws when he is broken, etc. Im sure Dawko, Markeplier, Ryetoast mention these at some point
LET’S GO THIS ONE’S ABOUT GLAM BONNIE!!!
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I've tried ID's vids quite a few times but for some reason I can never follow her. Glad you helped summarize her latest one. But as for the theory today, my main question is if it is true, to what ends? Like what does Cassie's Dad being in Bonnie mean outside of him guiding his fellow employees' souls to staff bots? just for them to all be deactivated when his daughter finally arrives. It seems like a lot of effort for the devs just to tell us dead employees are in the bots and Cassie's dad was in Bonnie. I don't see them hyping up "Where's Bonnie" just for that, so if this is accurate; it's telling us something to lead us towards answering something else. I had already thought the floor bots were related to the employees whom were implied to be killed but just never saw any reason why or why it would matter. I just wish we had some type of concrete answers to build off of, but this is also FNAF so yeah..
For the record, I'm not questioning to disprove, with everything involving FNAF I always ask - to what ends? The answer to that question is just as important as answering the mystery itself imo
also you don't even need a 33rd soul, since Bonnie deactivates when you get the 32
so he could still be Mask Bot
I feel like Monty has to be the one who killed bonnie based on the symbolism in ruin of Monty getting electrocuted in the water after powering a neon sign of bonnie. I want to believe he didn’t do it so bad though 😢
It fits greatly and adds more personality to the AI of these animatronics
Not every Bot is gonna be a Roxy or Freddy
But can we really ignore all the holes and inconsistencies in the "Monty killed Bonnie" theory just because of some symbolism?
@@snakesareamazing Monty being the one who killed bonnie is by Far the one with less inconsistencies
Did you really think I wouldn't notice you used portal 2 soundtrack in a video. In all seriousness tho, this is probably the closest explanation we have on the connection between Bonnie and the wet floor signs. Great video.
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i do like the wet floor bot part of this theory, though i'm not convinced about the prototype freddy idea, since the label on the freddy's foot might just be a retcon like other designs (ie roxanne's endo head)
plus, this seems to take place after the princes quest ending, which would A:explain why there's the princes's sword in the third arcade cabinet (along with other PQ references in the hideout) and B:why freddy is missing his head and sports similar damage to that in the ending itself during normal SB, along with explaining why his body is in fazerblast in the first place
so yeah, it seems the freddy we all love is the prototype freddy, just missing the fatherly attributes
The Roxy head thing isn’t a retcon or at least I don’t think it is, I think she was trying to put herself back together using a different endo which is why she has a different endo, and was trying to find one with eyes.
I actually really like this theory because it is a unique way of looking at the franchise. Good Job!
14:54 this doesn't exactly make sence, as you said that the bonnie animatronic was deactivated already, couldn't move, then the floor bots, THEN the destruction of bonnie... are you implying that the bowling ball was a later attack when she noticed the bots?
yeah, that's what he's saying. vanny tracked the source of the bots back to bonnie and broke a bowling ball over his head, which didn't work.
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Monty-throws chair, Bonnie “what’s u”Monty “sh”
Bit of a different take, what if Cassie's Dad took over Bonnie before he was disassembled. It gives motive to having to remove Bonnie from the animatronic line up as a benevolent spirit who knows what is going on could prove to be a FazWrench in the plans of Vanessa and Glitch Trap.
you know i found a door in ruin that was kicked down by an animatronic and the foot print was dented into the door, to me the foot looked like freddys, and it was nearby monty golf as well so there's more evidence for the prototype freddy
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Shouldn’t the people the mimic killed count as victims the ones he torn apart and I’m pretty sure that’s not the only workers who were mentioned died
I love how we've created an entire new Freddy over a small bit of text
I think we have one more missing employee:
"Where is everyone? Leo was the only one who had a copy of the maze control key, but I haven't seen him for months. Maybe that creepy bot knows where the key is. Leo was supposed to train it to work the maze, instead he tricked the bot into doing busy work under the daycare theater. I'll check after the all staff meeting tonight."
If he was fired they would be notified right? If he was the only one with the copy of the control key?
I also have a theory for the motive for attacking Bonnie:
In the room where we find Bonnie, we also find broken staff bot parts, more notably the green stained ones that match the one we find in front of the old pizza place underground. We know Vanny made Glamrocks dig it out. If Bonnie managed to fight off the control it would make sense for the Mimic to make staff bots (and Prototype) chase him and it would explain why there are broken staff bots around Bonnie. (It would also make sense for wet floor bots to protect him in that case - he was trying to help put an end to the murders)
There is also this unused line from Freddy which does support the theory about the Prototype being aggressive:
"I hear what some guests say about me. Bad things happened in the past. But that was not me. Those were older models - Flawed. I would never hurt anyone. You know that, right?"
The line was removed but maybe the idea wasn't since we do have this line:
"I have never been allowed in here before... this must be where I was born. Look at all the endos! They're all the same. Have I always been a Freddy? Am I Monty with a different shell? What if, I am not the first Glamrock Freddy? Are there more of me at other pizzerias? Do we all feel the same? Am I special? If I am mass-produced, am I still art?"
(See connection to Monty? The one who would in this theory be framed for the attack? Remember the green gift in Prototype - another connection to Monty? His foot model also matches Monty's, not Freddy's. AND Monty hates Freddy for some reason? Too much to be a coincidence)
The description of AR Golden Bonnie also reads "A prototype?" Which is sus.
The idea that Monty did not kill Bonnie is so fucking funny to me
Has anyone taken in to account that after getting the Monty Mystery Mix, if you look around on the bowling Alley, Endoskeletons come from behind the bowling Alley? Which is where we find Bonnie in ruin
My theory is that monty slashed him and than bonnie fell off the catwalk look at the damaged monty it all lines up
I mean if you wanna make the argument for the wet floor bots and the newspaper kids souls, maybe more kids went missing during the several years between games
Fun Fact: if you take the mask off near the signs without shutting them off then you will hear a voice telling you to leave
I'm a bit concerned about stating that the employees are the souls in the sign bots. The screams of terror heard when the mask is on are definitely children, and unless the Pizzaplex is violating child labor laws, the employees are probably not kids.
6:43 I don't know why people keep saying freddy and bonnie are boyfriends. They were best friends, they are robots, they cannot fall in love. The. Are. Robots. I say I love you to my best friend all the time, and he and I are not boyfriends. If you're gonna reply please keep it respectful. But people need to stop saying this, they are ROBOTS.
The newspaper says more residents go missing.
Sure, the total that have gone missing could be 9, but I think it’s more depicting 9 people going missing in this current batch
I think that Bonnie could actually be possessed by Henry.
The main issue with Cassie’s Dad being Bonnie is that for him to be dodging Cassie’s questions about what happened to Bonnie, he needs to, ya know, BE ALIVE, both so that he can know what happened to Bonnie AND be able to not answer Cassie when she asks questions about it.
Bonnie being HENRY on the other hand allows these interactions between Cassie and her Dad to happen AND makes the situation more interesting. It’s possible that Bonnie and his claws were the ones originally being used to clear the way to the FNaF 6 location, but while down there Bonnie came into contact with Henry’s spirit, similarly to how some believe Michael’s spirit came to possess Freddy (Assuming Mike IS possessing Freddy) when Freddy was clearing the way to that same location. Will and Ness realised this and decided to get rid of Bonnie, they lured Bonnie to Monty Golf, and had the Prototype Freddy attack Bonnie up on the catwalks, this incident potentially damaging them both severely and Bonnie’s destruction. (Monty possibly witnessing this event thus leading to his distance for Freddy. The dude LITERALLY saw a version of Freddy destroy Bonnie HIS BESTIE AND LOVER) Henry still being trapped inside Bonnie despite the animatronic being beyond repair.
As for the Wet Floor Bots I believe it to be as the other commenters have suggested. That the 9 people depicted in that newspaper are just the most recent victims of Afton, how’s spirits have been imprisoned within the Wet Floor Bots, helpless and scared, unable to do anything about Afton and his schemes.
As for why Cassie deactivating the Wet Floor Bots and free the souls with would effect Bonnie I can’t say, perhaps you will find an answer to this puzzle.
Honestly, this feels right thematically. I'm impressed with the math, too.
I think that prototype glam rock Freddy was left behind after the new one came out, eventually escaped, but it was all damaged in a not a lot of programming, and eventually glam rock. Bonnie found him and he ripped him apart. because his programming was not that well it didn’t have any safety locks.
One thing that just came to mind is that Freddy Mentions that his Battery is artificially limited for Reasons (Sorry I forgot where he says this). Maybe Bonnie is the Reason that this limit even exists?