I have been in the wrapping business since 2005, under extreme weather conditions, 3m last about 12 months, chinese vinyl last about 10 months. 3m costs $40 to $60 per meter, chinese vinyl cost $70 to $90 per 25 meters roll. put labour aside, will cost around $1000 for a full wrap in 3m, where the chinese vinyl will cost $50 for a full wrap. Similar life. After 12 months in hot climate, 3m glue residue is just as bad as any other brand, 3m will start to crack within 2 years on the roof and bonnet. If you have a white car, 3m glue residue will turn the paint yellow, can not be cleaned, you have to repaint your car. Chinese vinyl is thicker, very hard to remove but will not damage paint. FYI, just like iphone, 3m vinyl is made in china. Oracle is made in Germany. Out of 3m, avery, hexis, oracle, Hexis has the best value/quality ratio. You can change wrap every 6 months for 10 years, still cheaper than one single 3m wrap. Vinyl not recommanded to keep for more than 2 years, all of them are a B***h to remove when they are older than 1 year. Also air release is not really relevant, because all brands are now offering application liquid or gel, that will make any vinyl temporary none sticky, you can wrap faster than dry applying air release vinyl. 3m last about 6 months in Australia and offers no warranty in Queensland region.
Good video. I ordered Chinese wrap for a small project thinking "wow it looks easy on TH-cam". I nearly lost my mind after several attempts. Couldn't get it to work at all. I basically put my project aside thinking wrapping is only reserved only for pros. Some time had passed and I felt brave again and ordered some Vvivid wrap off Amazon. I CAN'T PUT INTO WORDS WHAT A DIFFERENCE THE VVIVID WAS!! The air release actually worked and with a little heat applied for tough corners, it molded flawlessly and I felt like a pro. I'm yet to try 3m stuff, but only amazing things to say about Vvivid wrap at this point.
Well man. You got me to try out my first wrap ever. In that statement I think I chose one of the worst vehicles to do my first hood wrap on. 2009 BMW x5 xdrive30i where the hood and grille is all in one. Lmfao. Take about throwing my self to the wolves. Anyway after about 4 hrs, I got it all down, isent the best, not for my first time. Buy you are right, it's like going to the gym as you said. I'm not a big guy, 130lbs is all 5'9. So lots of props to you for doing this your self. Was a very big task for me to do. Thanks for all your video's. Was a great learning curve that's for sure. I should have done my 88 crx si first haha, more flat of a hood. And yes I did the hood in a 6x5 foot piece all in one shot, no knifeless tape. Keep them videos coming man
I do my own wrapping and alot people say it looks professional, i basically learn from videos like this but i tell people the most important thing about wrapping is the brand.
I'm wanting to learn how to do my own cars as well. How long did it take you to learn? Was it hard your first time and is it still hard now. How long did it take your first time and how long does it take now tht you've done it a couple times? Have u ever tried plasti dip? I just dip my car for the first time. It came out ok for my first time. But if u don't know what it is, it's basically a paint that u can peel off like a wrap. I'd appreciate your response bro. Thanks in advance
@@devonbrown239 it actually took me like a week to get it down right but still till this day I have a hard time doing really tight corners, they are tricky
I have worked in a lot a trades over the years and following you now I am confident that I will add another cool trade to my list. Thanks for putting yourself out there CK. No question that your a PRO bud!
Hi Christian, Here I go with technical jargon. Adhesive is originally applied to the back at the adhesive coater. What helps to smooth out the adhesive as it's being applied to the back in called a doctor, usually made out of pure brass. What has been learned to make vinyl have air release, is buy getting a doctor bar that has a pattern cut into, usually by high tech lathes. If you can get a slight patter into the adhesive once the backing is laminated to the vinyl, the adhesive transfers to the vinyl, and the pattern in the adhesive transfers to the vinyl. Once that's done, and you have a slight pattern in the adhesive, that pattern will create air release. This is why you're working with a certain type of vinyl, and you comment that it has great air release, that's how the air release was created. Man, do I wish someone would let you into the manufacturing coating site to let you see the whole process as it's done. Of all the people I know, you would appreciate the process so much,and you wouldn't believe it. Vivid, or 3M ? If you're watching, please show Christian the coating process. He's be dazzled....er, He'd bedazzled ? Aw, to hell with it ! He'd be impressed ! LOL My very best, Scott
I spent a good 30 minutes yesterday (and plenty of other times before that) wondering how they get the air release function, I'm a way that is hardly visible. What you described is along the lines of what I had imagined, but Now I know! Thank you!
I wrapped my brother in laws Camaro roof with eBay color shift wrap and it did just like those and kept bubbling up randomly. After it was finished it didn’t look half bad being the first thing I’d ever wrapped. He left it on for about a month then decided to remove it and it left all the adhesive behind and it had sat outside in the Texas sun all day.
Thank you for this. I was planning on trying to wrap my car for the first time. You saved me hours of frustration. I'm going to buy the 3M. It doesn't help to be cheap on vinyl. Thanks Brother!
Thanks for going over every single aspect of each of these. Your vid was straight to the point and good content. Def make it easier to make a decision of what brand to go with!
Lol, for real? I must have seen a different video... In a dude slllloooowwwllllyyy babbled the same three points ad nauseum... The entire video could have been about 3 minutes and nothing would have been lost.
Thank you, exactly what I needed to know. I bought a Chinese brand that began with a D, I forget the name. Absolutely horrible. It was actually see through. Every color shows right through.
I'm no wrapper. But a car enthusiast for life. I gotta say, this stuff is so very satisfying to watch being handled, applied, peeled and ripped. LOL. I might be a wrapper soon.
I bought some random brand, 'DIYAH' Carbon Fiber, the application SUCKS, it's so hard to do, BUT it does look good and lasts really well through weather and sun, doesn't take off paint or whatever. It's just the application that's hard, it had air release and all that and it worked super well; but horribly sticky. I mean, I've had 3 people ask me if I got the hood wrapped or if it's real carbon fiber. I wrapped my dads Land Cruiser with Vvivid matte black, and oh man was it SO much easier to apply. So basically, if you have no clue what you're doing, get the expensive stuff. The Chinese stuff is hard to put on.
My first time wrapping a car was with a roll of 50M $250 Chinese wrap. I agree with you it was SOOO hard to wrap the car because Chinese wrap is so STICKY. Second time wrapping I used Vivid wrap was SOO much easier literally night and day
Same results using Chinese wrap. A lot less expensive but you make up for it in labor. I chose el cheapo wrap for my first job because, well, it's cheap. If I screwed it up, it didn't cost a lot BUT I look forward to working with better wrap because now I know what the bottom is like. Glue lines, massive tack, bubbles, lifting...it's a showcase of bad. I have some Avery for my next attempt.
Hey CKwraps your videos are pretty neat and I respect your craftsmanship, have you ever thought about wearing kneepads while you work? I imagine you have to kneel especially for fenders and bumpers so why not save your knees? Kneeling on concrete is HORRIBLE for your knees and some padding will save you some knee problems when you get to your 50's. Just something to consider
You get what you pay for. I used to buy cheap stuff on ebay. Any type of stress on it and it's guaranteed not to hold. 3M is hands down the best quality in my opinion. I'll use Avery as a plan B, but learned my lessons the hard way on the other crap. Sucks when you're just about done an install and the vinyl cracks on you. Spend the money and stand behind your job. CK... Love your vids man, jealous of your shop!
@@Rmalikk It's my first choice. I have some out there 5 years & still looking almost new. Avery is decent, but heat it too much and you can see the glue pattern. KPMF & Oracal 970RA seem decent, they're a good back up plan that I feel safe using until they give me a reason not to. I won't touch anything Vivvid with a 10ft pole.
With my growing skills in this trade I am learning that Avery is far more forgiving in stretching than Vvivid. I did my entire car in Avery and did not have any challenges doing my motorcycle tank in Vvivid it's been extremely difficult to stretch - I will now switch to Avery and see if I have better luck.
I ordered some cheap wrap on Amazon. It didn’t go well. I was able to apply it but there are little bubbles that won’t push out and not sticking on some edges. Also some wrinkled foggy blemishes ( Not clear smooth). Was wet install with water. Left residue or something. Ordering some Vvivid vinyl.
Your videos have taught me alot and personal trial and error.....I 100 percent agree with you that if a film is to tacky......its crap.......can't properly reposition it without a strong chance of damage.......yup....china film. I have had some good luck with some cheap film tho......but it's a hit and miss.
I only needed this video, but it was super helpful for the questions I was asking myself. I was indecisive between 3M and Vvivid. I chose Vvivid for my application. Thank you. Keep up the great work. (You'll show up in my "suggested" now so I will probably watch more.)
I just started watching your videos as I am thinking of trying it out. My family owns a 3bay shop that isn’t being used but it needs a major clean. Gonna try to do my old trusty 110kmile rsx type s I guess
Lately after using HEXIS for 2-3 years now for most wraps, every time going back using Oracal and M3 when a client want a specific color, it's quite fragile, very thin in comparison. Vvivid does have nice carbon fiber tho, worth the extra thickness.😅
I would love to see a comparison of these films with Avery SWF. I found that film really nice to wrap with. Would love to see how much it differs (if at all).
Great comparison. Even though you can get some cool looking stuff from china I think I will stay away from it. Doesn't look like it would be worth having to fight with all the bubbles
Maybe not professionally but as a diyer i have a friend that did 2 of his cars with the cheapest wrap available at the time (Textured with sparkles) and it came out great. End of the day its how much time you're willing to give, personally i spend like crazy time on my car, for me its a hobby. Other people likebro paint, watch tv. Me i grab cloth and start cleaning the cracks of my car with a beer in my hand and buddy to chat with.
I did my first wrap with ebay wrap and the finish was pretty nice for what you pay, but the adhesive was sooo sticky which made it hard to lift the film after only laying it down.
yeah i used the ebay wrap and lifting to realign it snaps super easy. 3 metres down and still no hood wrap, although the underlying paint was in despair, not some shiny new coat.
Of course, all the patience in the world doesn't make the day last any longer. :D If you spend all of your time working around problems with sub-par material, the amount of actual work you can finish in a day is still lower. Picking up a second shift or something to save up for higher quality materials might actually take less time than fighting with cheap stuff. :shrug:
Presentation style is great and easy to watch - nice to not listen to the stilted cadence and inflection that seems to be the default tech/product review go to on youtube channels. Also great to have professional insight of experience as well as technical data. Thank you for taking tome to produce this work :)
CK Wraps I really enjoyed your whole video all the way up to the heat-gun test , everything before that was college level and you was the professor & then the heat gun test was kindergarten level !! You had absolutely no guideline for the time after heating to the force/ rip test you should have reheated each one before applying force to them & to get it completely consistent with the amount of force you should have put one end in a vice clamp or vice grip and then put a little hole on one of the corners or the other side of the material and put either a ratchet strap hook in it and then just ratcheted it and that limits you know the amount of power pressure that gets put on it it'll be even on everyone I mean we know you're trying to use the same Force but that's not really regulated no matter how much you try because with stuff that thin 5 seconds with after using heat gun is everything and you went two to three minutes on the from the first to the last so there's absolutely no heat so the reaction would have been so much more different from the all the way to the 3M the one you did last so can we please get an update on that do each one hitting the same amount of heat for the same time & from the same distance please!! And I promise you I'm really not bashing you I just would really like to see all the underdog/n none you know Fanboy or number one brand get every equal opportunity a chance to shine because that's what it's all about you know especially if it holds up or it's better than the 3M wrap thank you & I'm truly really looking forward to seeing this part redone I really appreciate it because I am about to wrap for 2014 titanium turbo ford fusion and a 1996 Ford Thunderbird LX V8 4.6L supercharged so I'm really you know in the market looking for a cheap but reliable decent quality wrap so I'm not breaking the bank on two vehicles
@@sunnys7645 Great idea, just take a plastic razor and a week of my life to go over 80% of a full size car, including all around the corners, inside the headlights, and maybe with a little luck, I may 3 fingers left when I am done. If I could show a pic on here of how horrible the car is, that I have spent more than a year, working in between jobs trying to salvage, I am betting you would just say, scrap the whole car. I have been removing and installing wraps since 2005. How long have you been an expert?
This may be out of topic but hey I just want to share that I do some windows tinting and I found out that it has exactly same case like this vinyl wrapping stuff. The Chinese cheapest one always sucks like weird bubble, super sticky and the worst part is it just won't shrink well or even a little bit nicely like the branded one or atleast the one that a bit expensive.
Wow , that explains why I struggled so much using TECKWRAP, kept getting the same results like the first two Chinese vinyl wraps you used , kept getting bubbles and glue lines and it just stuck on quick and was hard to unstick from hood
I wrapped my car for the 1st time with china vinyl as I thought if I make a mistake it's only cheap wrap so no big deal. It was super hard to work with. Soon as it touched thr car it stuck down. Bubbled up loads. Was lifting on the edges and the seams peeled up. Once stretched it lost its adhesive. It pulled the paint off my door handles. I will never use it again. They do have amazing colours though but just not worth the hassle
the chinese one rips exatly like some monomeric vinyl we have in our signmakershop thats used for short term application on noticebords and stuff, but i wouldnt even dream of letting that stuff anywhere near a car. Even with a small plott.
Can you do a video about how to avoid scratching the vinyl during application or possibly removing the scratches if there are some? Would appreciate a video like that, thanks
I've used vivid and it was nice but it baked on the car and dried out after a year or two, was extremely messy to get off, I'm hoping 3m comes off easier in one piece
Be very careful, the problem with the alternative films is that the adhesive will never come off after you apply it after a couple of days. And don't leave it in the sun at all....
@@dr.graves5541 Didn't know that, I will have to leave it in the sun everyday. I think I'm just gonna go with a luquid spray wrap Autoflex Express. That way I can do any custom color I want.
I wanted to buy some cheap wrap for a volvo v70. I am looking at aliexpress and they got 20m for $140 including sgipping for some glossy deep blue. I also wanted to get the 5d carbon wrap for $60 for 3m for the hood
I was very excited about the VIvid vinyl when it first came out, and I have wrapped several dragsters with their material. I wrapped a car in the liquid metal green and it turned black where the sun hit it the most in a matter of months, and the edges pulled back a half an inch from where it was trimmed. I cant get it off the car to save my life. The adhesive wont let go, and the material separated into layers leaving the metallic dust and glue. If anyone has any suggestions on how to get this off without setting it on fire, please let me know....
@@CKWraps Been doing wraps full time since 2005 and I have never had as much trouble taking a 10 year old 3M or Avery wrap off as I have had trying to remove a 9 month old vvivid wrap. How many vvivid wraps have you had to remove?
@@dr.graves5541 Sad that all this wrong information is being put out to so many people. Vivvid is absolute trash and wont last a year on a car before it fades, not to mention shrinkage on EVERYTHING. I had the same issue where the vinyl was tearing into layers and little pieces. I ended up taking the wheel to the whole car. Probably spent more time removing then wrapping. Best part is the wrap was on for maybe 8 months before it faded and physically started cracking in random spots. Done many removals and never had such a hard time. Luckily it was on my personal vehicle and not a customer car.
@@SubieDew I wholeheartedly agree. The only thing that I think could be the reason, is that the wraps are just temporary and get removed almost immediately before they have a chance to fail.... Must be great to have money to throw away like that...
Yeah I made the mistake of buying the Chinese carbon wrap, and went to cold stretch it over my roof and the film tore just as easily as the Chinese film tore A half moon out of itself. I was pissed but I only paid $25 for a 5'x6' roll. For dad joke of the day it was 'tearable' (terrible) film. I just purchased some VVIVID with air release carbon vinyl, so hopefully it goes on better
sei veramente un grande , bellissimo video , io vorrei intraprendere in modo amatoriali il car wrapping e vorrei chiederti un consiglio sulle pellicole , secondo te quali pellicole potrei acquistare non spendendo una fortuna? almeno in italia costano parecchio le piu' blasonate, non vorrei spendere una fortuna , grazie
same here. wrapping my honda civic as my 1st wrap. $600 of material is way better than $4400. I am almost done. I have learned that CK Wraps makes it look very easy.
HEY CHRIS I HAD A QUESTION ! Is Avery Dennison a good brand? I want to do a chrome delete on my car and the upper trim is long and curved so it keeps getting some bubbles and it may be because of the brand I got off eBay it was no brand but it had some air release technology but not good enough it seemed like. What do you suggest I use for my chrome delete project brand wise and do you think gloss black would look better or satin or matte on a black c300 lol I know it’s personal preference b as the pro what do you recommend to look clean and like it came all black! Love your videos and informative help
Christian, what are you using as the wall mounts for rolls of material. It looks like curtain rod hangers, but doesn’t appear to be curtain rods. Thanks!
I have a question maybe you can answer. I have a small boat made out of polyethylene that I want to apply a wrap in each side. The area is pretty flat and will be an easy install but as you know vinyl doesn’t like sticking to the PE. I heard about the 3M vinyl primer 94, they say it will help the vinyl stick to the boat. My question is if I put a coat of the primer on the boat will the vinyl stick instantly when it touches it or will I be able to reposition the vinyl it if needed? Thanks
Does changing the complete Color of your car with a vinyl wrap mean you need to register the car in the new Color? I'm from South Africa and I was told by the local authority that Changing the Color of the car even though vinyl wrap is temporary means you have to also change it on the vehicle logbook/registration certificate as it's illegal to drive around with it not being done
I have ordered vinyl from ali express/wish befooe, the stuff from wish is 50/50 on the quality sometimes ,. the stuff i orderd last from aliexpress was in a leauge of its own when it came to quality, it was so much easier to work on than the wish stuff, and it was cheaper ( mostly cause wish takes their huge ass fee lmao )
@@MarkSegree yes, I washed my car like 2 days before and I cleaned it before I wiped it with rubbing alcohol. Everything came out awesome until I was done went inside and when I was leaving for work it was lifting.
I bought one time al roll for a few euro but it has no airrelease or whatever. I tryed better foil but it still sucks. So if you buy foil, buy good foil like 3m or vivid. Its a lilbit more expensive but if you try to wrap your car of headlights and it doesnt work its a realy stressfull job to do. The next time i spend a lilbit more money because the other foil i had was crap. It was like on the car 🤔 off the car and then in the garbage.
I work in a wrapshop in Thailand atm. i'm danish but, we use china wrap sometimes when the customer is being cheap. Basically if you are working with a very thick film you can apply some baby shampoo with a soft sponge on the main area, but not the corners, it allows for the air to move more fluently, and avoid air bubbles. Also the chinese film in the video, i'm pretty sure it's not made for wrapping entire vehicles, we were talking about it in the shop the other day when we were looking at the sample book, they do make one with a coating on top of the diamonds so it doesn't break.
I got a Chinese brand wrap 5ft tall 90feet Long I want to learn to wrap. costed 270 just until I learn better I’ll use vivid products do you recommend to try out China products. Because I don’t want to spend 600+ and mess up badly
Do you always need to use heat to apply vinyl as a standard protocol and does it always need to be stretched? I know Mirror looks better stretched but besides surface prep, what’s the easiest kind of vinyl to install and why? I know colors act different and images can’t be over stretched but in a nutshell what are the rule of thumb?
Not so sure about that. I wrapped a corvette in the Vivid liquid metal green, and less than year later, it came back turning black, and the edges had pulled back a half an inch from the edge. Not what I would expect from cast for sure. On top of that, the vinyl came off in tiny chips, and I am still trying to get it off. The adhesive is pure hell and does not come off clean at all.
@@dr.graves5541 my vivid started to turn brown then black as well and it did look like it shrunk a bit, getting it off was a pain, as soon as it cooled it would crack instantly
@@DirtyBrew Ya, they advertise as cast, and that is why I just ordered a swatch book and began selling wraps for dragsters. The liquid metal colors are beautiful and I have done some printed designs on the chrome as well that looked awesome. I have had to deal with shrinkage on a couple of wraps, and fortunately, the time the cars spend outdoors is minimal.
After seeing a couple of Vvivid's Amazon reviews calling them out for selling counterfeit vinyl, I would NEVER do business with them, the product listing is titled: "ORAFOL ORACAL 6510 Cast Vinyl" It is clearly NOT an Oracal product though... jamie1177 1.0 out of 5 stars NOT ORACAL 651 !! Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2020 Verified Purchase Product IS NOT Oracal 651 don't be fooled by the similar name. Johanna 1.0 out of 5 stars Product is a counterfeit. Reviewed in the United States on July 16, 2018 Verified Purchase Product is an overpriced counterfeit. Claims to be Oracal 651 and there's no indication of it on the back yet photo states its Oracal! Source: www.amazon.com/Fluorescent-Silhouette-Including-Detailer-Squeegee/product-reviews/B0784D5BSY
Its crazy you say your first experience with Chinese film it was so sticky you thought you would rip the hood off, that literally just happened to me today but with vvivid gloss black xpo, that wrap is wayyyy too sticky i only removed backing paper and it wouldn't lift off the roof for me to even glass out..
Here is the problem with most of them, you have to buy a whole roll of 5' x 50 yards, at a unreasonable price, and with most of them you have to have a shop, sign up or they won't sell to you. Vivid is an exception, as they sell smaller quantities on Ebay and Amazon. Ebay also sells the Chinese brands. I took a chance on a beautiful Chameleon purple gold wrap in high gloss. Keeping fingers crossed that it isn't junk. Got it from AliExpress. I want to wrap a motorcycle, not a car.
CK Wraps, Im looking for a Vvivid gloss black for a black BMW, which Vvivid would you suggest/recommend that comes closest to the original BMW black. Its for the doorpilars. Thanks love your work.
I tried CYS and RG brand, Chinese vinyl, not bad. Even some other no brand vinyl, cheaper price with so so quality. The trick is, before you place an order online for Chinese vinyl, you need to tell them that you are looking for High Quality vinyl with 160g back paper. By the way, it is not logical to compare world-top-brand products with no-brand-chinese-made stuff, what do you want to compare?
I live in Quebec, with all the "Nice" winter time and I'd like to know what I should use to ensure a couple years services from those vinyl..... Thanks
Isn't there a higher quality Vvivid? Not sure if the cheap stuff is legit either. Official stuff comes from Canada I believe. I may be wrong, but I'm sure this was mentioned before.
@@20tea Go for Avery dennison SW900. If you looking for a bit cheaper but a bit harder to install try hexis HX20000 or Oracal 970RA. Theres alot more brands
I have been in the wrapping business since 2005, under extreme weather conditions, 3m last about 12 months, chinese vinyl last about 10 months. 3m costs $40 to $60 per meter, chinese vinyl cost $70 to $90 per 25 meters roll. put labour aside, will cost around $1000 for a full wrap in 3m, where the chinese vinyl will cost $50 for a full wrap. Similar life. After 12 months in hot climate, 3m glue residue is just as bad as any other brand, 3m will start to crack within 2 years on the roof and bonnet. If you have a white car, 3m glue residue will turn the paint yellow, can not be cleaned, you have to repaint your car. Chinese vinyl is thicker, very hard to remove but will not damage paint. FYI, just like iphone, 3m vinyl is made in china. Oracle is made in Germany. Out of 3m, avery, hexis, oracle, Hexis has the best value/quality ratio. You can change wrap every 6 months for 10 years, still cheaper than one single 3m wrap. Vinyl not recommanded to keep for more than 2 years, all of them are a B***h to remove when they are older than 1 year. Also air release is not really relevant, because all brands are now offering application liquid or gel, that will make any vinyl temporary none sticky, you can wrap faster than dry applying air release vinyl. 3m last about 6 months in Australia and offers no warranty in Queensland region.
Thanks man great info I'm just getting started as a wrapper
Hey mate, where do you find the cheap Chinese wrap? Got some things I want to wrap and the 3m and vivid is out of the price range
@@charleskazzi8816 Ebay, AliBaba just like discussed in this video. Happy Wrapping!
how much wisdom in his words
Gosh, that sounds really bad in terms of durability! No way one can afford yearly wraps.
Good video. I ordered Chinese wrap for a small project thinking "wow it looks easy on TH-cam". I nearly lost my mind after several attempts. Couldn't get it to work at all. I basically put my project aside thinking wrapping is only reserved only for pros. Some time had passed and I felt brave again and ordered some Vvivid wrap off Amazon. I CAN'T PUT INTO WORDS WHAT A DIFFERENCE THE VVIVID WAS!! The air release actually worked and with a little heat applied for tough corners, it molded flawlessly and I felt like a pro. I'm yet to try 3m stuff, but only amazing things to say about Vvivid wrap at this point.
That first one (green sandpaper) belongs on a skateboard
Well man. You got me to try out my first wrap ever.
In that statement I think I chose one of the worst vehicles to do my first hood wrap on.
2009 BMW x5 xdrive30i where the hood and grille is all in one. Lmfao.
Take about throwing my self to the wolves.
Anyway after about 4 hrs, I got it all down, isent the best, not for my first time.
Buy you are right, it's like going to the gym as you said.
I'm not a big guy, 130lbs is all 5'9.
So lots of props to you for doing this your self.
Was a very big task for me to do. Thanks for all your video's.
Was a great learning curve that's for sure.
I should have done my 88 crx si first haha, more flat of a hood.
And yes I did the hood in a 6x5 foot piece all in one shot, no knifeless tape.
Keep them videos coming man
this was actually pretty informative i appreciate it. for sure going to put my money down for vivid or a 3m
M3 forsure
I do my own wrapping and alot people say it looks professional, i basically learn from videos like this but i tell people the most important thing about wrapping is the brand.
I'm wanting to learn how to do my own cars as well. How long did it take you to learn? Was it hard your first time and is it still hard now. How long did it take your first time and how long does it take now tht you've done it a couple times? Have u ever tried plasti dip? I just dip my car for the first time. It came out ok for my first time. But if u don't know what it is, it's basically a paint that u can peel off like a wrap. I'd appreciate your response bro. Thanks in advance
@@devonbrown239 it actually took me like a week to get it down right but still till this day I have a hard time doing really tight corners, they are tricky
What brand? My buddy is insistent on vvivid because he's going to need 120ft for his truck and any other brand will be double the price.
I have worked in a lot a trades over the years and following you now I am confident that I will add another cool trade to my list. Thanks for putting yourself out there CK. No question that your a PRO bud!
Hi Christian,
Here I go with technical jargon. Adhesive is originally applied to the back at the adhesive coater. What helps to smooth out the adhesive as it's being applied to the back in called a doctor, usually made out of pure brass. What has been learned to make vinyl have air release, is buy getting a doctor bar that has a pattern cut into, usually by high tech lathes. If you can get a slight patter into the adhesive once the backing is laminated to the vinyl, the adhesive transfers to the vinyl, and the pattern in the adhesive transfers to the vinyl. Once that's done, and you have a slight pattern in the adhesive, that pattern will create air release. This is why you're working with a certain type of vinyl, and you comment that it has great air release, that's how the air release was created. Man, do I wish someone would let you into the manufacturing coating site to let you see the whole process as it's done. Of all the people I know, you would appreciate the process so much,and you wouldn't believe it. Vivid, or 3M ? If you're watching, please show Christian the coating process. He's be dazzled....er, He'd bedazzled ? Aw, to hell with it ! He'd be impressed ! LOL
My very best,
Scott
I spent a good 30 minutes yesterday (and plenty of other times before that) wondering how they get the air release function, I'm a way that is hardly visible. What you described is along the lines of what I had imagined, but Now I know! Thank you!
I wrapped my brother in laws Camaro roof with eBay color shift wrap and it did just like those and kept bubbling up randomly. After it was finished it didn’t look half bad being the first thing I’d ever wrapped. He left it on for about a month then decided to remove it and it left all the adhesive behind and it had sat outside in the Texas sun all day.
Thank you for this. I was planning on trying to wrap my car for the first time. You saved me hours of frustration. I'm going to buy the 3M. It doesn't help to be cheap on vinyl. Thanks Brother!
Thanks for going over every single aspect of each of these. Your vid was straight to the point and good content. Def make it easier to make a decision of what brand to go with!
Lol, for real? I must have seen a different video... In a dude slllloooowwwllllyyy babbled the same three points ad nauseum... The entire video could have been about 3 minutes and nothing would have been lost.
Thank you, exactly what I needed to know. I bought a Chinese brand that began with a D, I forget the name. Absolutely horrible. It was actually see through. Every color shows right through.
Do not blame China
Blame the purchaser who came to China and ordered teh cheapest crap he could get to make huge profit back at home
@@yourdeal2408 that's china's fault for making it the way It is
@@yourdeal2408 Ya don't blame China for filling the world with garbage
I don't own a car and don't even have my license but I enjoy so luch6the way you talk about your wraps 🧐
I'm no wrapper. But a car enthusiast for life. I gotta say, this stuff is so very satisfying to watch being handled, applied, peeled and ripped. LOL. I might be a wrapper soon.
I bought some random brand, 'DIYAH' Carbon Fiber, the application SUCKS, it's so hard to do, BUT it does look good and lasts really well through weather and sun, doesn't take off paint or whatever. It's just the application that's hard, it had air release and all that and it worked super well; but horribly sticky. I mean, I've had 3 people ask me if I got the hood wrapped or if it's real carbon fiber. I wrapped my dads Land Cruiser with Vvivid matte black, and oh man was it SO much easier to apply. So basically, if you have no clue what you're doing, get the expensive stuff. The Chinese stuff is hard to put on.
My first time wrapping a car was with a roll of 50M $250 Chinese wrap. I agree with you it was SOOO hard to wrap the car because Chinese wrap is so STICKY. Second time wrapping I used Vivid wrap was SOO much easier literally night and day
Same results using Chinese wrap. A lot less expensive but you make up for it in labor. I chose el cheapo wrap for my first job because, well, it's cheap. If I screwed it up, it didn't cost a lot BUT I look forward to working with better wrap because now I know what the bottom is like. Glue lines, massive tack, bubbles, lifting...it's a showcase of bad. I have some Avery for my next attempt.
the education he gives u on brands is % of the learning ..Eventually the doing is the other 75%
We've been running 3m but going to run vivid on a test RV cap.
Dc Lawn Services inc How did that go?
@@joeseptien2182 what he asked^
Oh.. you should see the vinyl.. that we use here in Argentina... No air release... A really painfull wrap ...
Headache!!
Hey CKwraps your videos are pretty neat and I respect your craftsmanship, have you ever thought about wearing kneepads while you work? I imagine you have to kneel especially for fenders and bumpers so why not save your knees? Kneeling on concrete is HORRIBLE for your knees and some padding will save you some knee problems when you get to your 50's. Just something to consider
You get what you pay for. I used to buy cheap stuff on ebay. Any type of stress on it and it's guaranteed not to hold. 3M is hands down the best quality in my opinion. I'll use Avery as a plan B, but learned my lessons the hard way on the other crap. Sucks when you're just about done an install and the vinyl cracks on you. Spend the money and stand behind your job. CK... Love your vids man, jealous of your shop!
Is 3M still the best?
@@Rmalikk It's my first choice. I have some out there 5 years & still looking almost new. Avery is decent, but heat it too much and you can see the glue pattern. KPMF & Oracal 970RA seem decent, they're a good back up plan that I feel safe using until they give me a reason not to. I won't touch anything Vivvid with a 10ft pole.
@@brianames3074 will it take off paint on my motorcycle though? i can't find as good designs with 3m so far
With my growing skills in this trade I am learning that Avery is far more forgiving in stretching than Vvivid. I did my entire car in Avery and did not have any challenges doing my motorcycle tank in Vvivid it's been extremely difficult to stretch - I will now switch to Avery and see if I have better luck.
I ordered some cheap wrap on Amazon. It didn’t go well. I was able to apply it but there are little bubbles that won’t push out and not sticking on some edges. Also some wrinkled foggy blemishes ( Not clear smooth). Was wet install with water. Left residue or something. Ordering some Vvivid vinyl.
im glad i wasn't the only one .. i thought i was wrapping my mirror caps wrong....
Your videos have taught me alot and personal trial and error.....I 100 percent agree with you that if a film is to tacky......its crap.......can't properly reposition it without a strong chance of damage.......yup....china film.
I have had some good luck with some cheap film tho......but it's a hit and miss.
I only needed this video, but it was super helpful for the questions I was asking myself. I was indecisive between 3M and Vvivid. I chose Vvivid for my application. Thank you. Keep up the great work.
(You'll show up in my "suggested" now so I will probably watch more.)
I just started watching your videos as I am thinking of trying it out. My family owns a 3bay shop that isn’t being used but it needs a major clean. Gonna try to do my old trusty 110kmile rsx type s I guess
Wow, What A pro, But Thats So Cool That Every Thing When You Go In Detail There Is Soo Much Of It
Lately after using HEXIS for 2-3 years now for most wraps, every time going back using Oracal and M3 when a client want a specific color, it's quite fragile, very thin in comparison. Vvivid does have nice carbon fiber tho, worth the extra thickness.😅
I would love to see a comparison of these films with Avery SWF. I found that film really nice to wrap with. Would love to see how much it differs (if at all).
Excellent presentation, thanks!
Great comparison. Even though you can get some cool looking stuff from china I think I will stay away from it. Doesn't look like it would be worth having to fight with all the bubbles
Maybe not professionally but as a diyer i have a friend that did 2 of his cars with the cheapest wrap available at the time (Textured with sparkles) and it came out great. End of the day its how much time you're willing to give, personally i spend like crazy time on my car, for me its a hobby. Other people likebro paint, watch tv. Me i grab cloth and start cleaning the cracks of my car with a beer in my hand and buddy to chat with.
I did my first wrap with ebay wrap and the finish was pretty nice for what you pay, but the adhesive was sooo sticky which made it hard to lift the film after only laying it down.
yeah i used the ebay wrap and lifting to realign it snaps super easy. 3 metres down and still no hood wrap, although the underlying paint was in despair, not some shiny new coat.
You can buy really nice vinyl wraps in China. But some luck is needed if you are getting them from eBay.
Of course, all the patience in the world doesn't make the day last any longer. :D If you spend all of your time working around problems with sub-par material, the amount of actual work you can finish in a day is still lower. Picking up a second shift or something to save up for higher quality materials might actually take less time than fighting with cheap stuff. :shrug:
Presentation style is great and easy to watch - nice to not listen to the stilted cadence and inflection that seems to be the default tech/product review go to on youtube channels.
Also great to have professional insight of experience as well as technical data.
Thank you for taking tome to produce this work :)
CK Wraps
I really enjoyed your whole video all the way up to the heat-gun test , everything before that was college level and you was the professor & then the heat gun test was kindergarten level !! You had absolutely no guideline for the time after heating to the force/ rip test you should have reheated each one before applying force to them & to get it completely consistent with the amount of force you should have put one end in a vice clamp or vice grip and then put a little hole on one of the corners or the other side of the material and put either a ratchet strap hook in it and then just ratcheted it and that limits you know the amount of power pressure that gets put on it it'll be even on everyone I mean we know you're trying to use the same Force but that's not really regulated no matter how much you try because with stuff that thin 5 seconds with after using heat gun is everything and you went two to three minutes on the from the first to the last so there's absolutely no heat so the reaction would have been so much more different from the all the way to the 3M the one you did last so can we please get an update on that do each one hitting the same amount of heat for the same time & from the same distance please!! And I promise you I'm really not bashing you I just would really like to see all the underdog/n none you know Fanboy or number one brand get every equal opportunity a chance to shine because that's what it's all about you know especially if it holds up or it's better than the 3M wrap thank you & I'm truly really looking forward to seeing this part redone I really appreciate it because I am about to wrap for 2014 titanium turbo ford fusion and a 1996 Ford Thunderbird LX V8 4.6L supercharged so I'm really you know in the market looking for a cheap but reliable decent quality wrap so I'm not breaking the bank on two vehicles
Nice comparison gives me an idea what route to take when purchasing wrap this answers so many questions thanks for the vid👍
I am looking forward to part 2 where you show us how to get off all the glue that Vvivid leaves behind...
Ain’t nothing a gallon of Rapid Remover won’t take off. Haha.
@@thejester6265 Or just buff it off with a bit of wire wool
I like 60 grit sand paper on a buff wheel
I'd just scrape it off with a blade
@@sunnys7645 Great idea, just take a plastic razor and a week of my life to go over 80% of a full size car, including all around the corners, inside the headlights, and maybe with a little luck, I may 3 fingers left when I am done. If I could show a pic on here of how horrible the car is, that I have spent more than a year, working in between jobs trying to salvage, I am betting you would just say, scrap the whole car. I have been removing and installing wraps since 2005. How long have you been an expert?
This may be out of topic but hey I just want to share that I do some windows tinting and I found out that it has exactly same case like this vinyl wrapping stuff. The Chinese cheapest one always sucks like weird bubble, super sticky and the worst part is it just won't shrink well or even a little bit nicely like the branded one or atleast the one that a bit expensive.
Wow , that explains why I struggled so much using TECKWRAP, kept getting the same results like the first two Chinese vinyl wraps you used , kept getting bubbles and glue lines and it just stuck on quick and was hard to unstick from hood
Good info brother - we are about to get back to color change so this is crucial to see.
I wrapped my car for the 1st time with china vinyl as I thought if I make a mistake it's only cheap wrap so no big deal. It was super hard to work with. Soon as it touched thr car it stuck down. Bubbled up loads. Was lifting on the edges and the seams peeled up. Once stretched it lost its adhesive. It pulled the paint off my door handles. I will never use it again. They do have amazing colours though but just not worth the hassle
the chinese one rips exatly like some monomeric vinyl we have in our signmakershop thats used for short term application on noticebords and stuff, but i wouldnt even dream of letting that stuff anywhere near a car. Even with a small plott.
Can you do a video about how to avoid scratching the vinyl during application or possibly removing the scratches if there are some? Would appreciate a video like that, thanks
Use the correct buffer and don't let it touch the ground. Heart usually removes most minor scratches. Some finishes especially chrome are in fixable
buy 3M 2080. it has a clear film over the actual vinyl while installing and then it is removed afterwards
the no name vinyl would be great as a craft vinyl!!
I have a chin spoiler for my c5 corvette. It has open air ducts left and right. Do you have a vid on how to wrap into the air ducts
Awesome evaluation... your favorite vinyl is...?
What's your suggestion for wrapping a Can Am X3? Going offroad and to the sand dunes...
I've used vivid and it was nice but it baked on the car and dried out after a year or two, was extremely messy to get off, I'm hoping 3m comes off easier in one piece
Depending on the climate, all brands will do the same
@@CKWraps I live in Pennsylvania, it doesn't get super hot but it gets both hot and cold throughout the seasons
Teckwrap is from China is that pretty good or no? They have some very vibrant unique colors that other brands don't have
@@autostyleonline1311 Okay I see now might give it a try, Thank you for your reply.
Be very careful, the problem with the alternative films is that the adhesive will never come off after you apply it after a couple of days. And don't leave it in the sun at all....
@@dr.graves5541 Didn't know that, I will have to leave it in the sun everyday. I think I'm just gonna go with a luquid spray wrap Autoflex Express. That way I can do any custom color I want.
Good breakdown. Thank you.
Thank you for the valuable info!
I wanted to buy some cheap wrap for a volvo v70. I am looking at aliexpress and they got 20m for $140 including sgipping for some glossy deep blue. I also wanted to get the 5d carbon wrap for $60 for 3m for the hood
I was very excited about the VIvid vinyl when it first came out, and I have wrapped several dragsters with their material. I wrapped a car in the liquid metal green and it turned black where the sun hit it the most in a matter of months, and the edges pulled back a half an inch from where it was trimmed. I cant get it off the car to save my life. The adhesive wont let go, and the material separated into layers leaving the metallic dust and glue. If anyone has any suggestions on how to get this off without setting it on fire, please let me know....
Use an eraser wheel. Works very well when 3m and Avery leave a ton of glue behind too
@@CKWraps Been doing wraps full time since 2005 and I have never had as much trouble taking a 10 year old 3M or Avery wrap off as I have had trying to remove a 9 month old vvivid wrap. How many vvivid wraps have you had to remove?
@@dr.graves5541 Sad that all this wrong information is being put out to so many people. Vivvid is absolute trash and wont last a year on a car before it fades, not to mention shrinkage on EVERYTHING.
I had the same issue where the vinyl was tearing into layers and little pieces. I ended up taking the wheel to the whole car. Probably spent more time removing then wrapping. Best part is the wrap was on for maybe 8 months before it faded and physically started cracking in random spots. Done many removals and never had such a hard time. Luckily it was on my personal vehicle and not a customer car.
@@SubieDew I wholeheartedly agree. The only thing that I think could be the reason, is that the wraps are just temporary and get removed almost immediately before they have a chance to fail.... Must be great to have money to throw away like that...
Very informative! Thank you
I wouldn't wrap the car in the cheap ones, but some small interior pieces why not?
Yeah I made the mistake of buying the Chinese carbon wrap, and went to cold stretch it over my roof and the film tore just as easily as the Chinese film tore A half moon out of itself. I was pissed but I only paid $25 for a 5'x6' roll. For dad joke of the day it was 'tearable' (terrible) film. I just purchased some VVIVID with air release carbon vinyl, so hopefully it goes on better
sei veramente un grande , bellissimo video , io vorrei intraprendere in modo amatoriali il car wrapping e vorrei chiederti un consiglio sulle pellicole , secondo te quali pellicole potrei acquistare non spendendo una fortuna? almeno in italia costano parecchio le piu' blasonate, non vorrei spendere una fortuna , grazie
Do Avery VS Vvivid VS 3M Please :)
Great video, I was looking for a video with this info like a long time ago, thanks for explaining it so nice 👍🏻
Thanks for the info helped me a lot. Can you please tell me where can I buy the original vvivid+ please
I'm going to attempt my first wrap soon using oracal 970ra 😁 was going to pay to have it done until I got the quote lol
same here. wrapping my honda civic as my 1st wrap. $600 of material is way better than $4400. I am almost done. I have learned that CK Wraps makes it look very easy.
Im doing my charger currently, I got everything down just cant do the back bumper and the front. He makes it look easy
Mic do you have an Instagram
@@Applefaker no unfortunately I don't but I'm hoping to get one going once I start 😁
@@micraw714 wanted to see how it turns out and what color are you doing btw
HEY CHRIS I HAD A QUESTION ! Is Avery Dennison a good brand? I want to do a chrome delete on my car and the upper trim is long and curved so it keeps getting some bubbles and it may be because of the brand I got off eBay it was no brand but it had some air release technology but not good enough it seemed like. What do you suggest I use for my chrome delete project brand wise and do you think gloss black would look better or satin or matte on a black c300 lol I know it’s personal preference b as the pro what do you recommend to look clean and like it came all black! Love your videos and informative help
Christian, what are you using as the wall mounts for rolls of material. It looks like curtain rod hangers, but doesn’t appear to be curtain rods. Thanks!
great video! i ordered some Vvivid yesterday and this puts me at ease i have some decent quality wrap.
I does a wrap on aluminum compare to a painted surface. Is it easier to adjust and whatnot?
I have a question maybe you can answer. I have a small boat made out of polyethylene that I want to apply a wrap in each side. The area is pretty flat and will be an easy install but as you know vinyl doesn’t like sticking to the PE. I heard about the 3M vinyl primer 94, they say it will help the vinyl stick to the boat. My question is if I put a coat of the primer on the boat will the vinyl stick instantly when it touches it or will I be able to reposition the vinyl it if needed?
Thanks
Great information as always.
Does changing the complete Color of your car with a vinyl wrap mean you need to register the car in the new Color? I'm from South Africa and I was told by the local authority that Changing the Color of the car even though vinyl wrap is temporary means you have to also change it on the vehicle logbook/registration certificate as it's illegal to drive around with it not being done
I have ordered vinyl from ali express/wish befooe, the stuff from wish is 50/50 on the quality sometimes ,. the stuff i orderd last from aliexpress was in a leauge of its own when it came to quality, it was so much easier to work on than the wish stuff, and it was cheaper ( mostly cause wish takes their huge ass fee lmao )
What brand or sell from aliexpress?
I bought the vvivid taillights wrap and it lifted the same day so I had to remove it. It looks great but the edges kept on lifting.
Did you clean and degrease your tail light?
@@MarkSegree yes, I washed my car like 2 days before and I cleaned it before I wiped it with rubbing alcohol. Everything came out awesome until I was done went inside and when I was leaving for work it was lifting.
This usually happens if you overstretch the wrap
Also how scratched up was your tail light? You need a very smooth surface as in buffed and polished to get best adhesion
I bought one time al roll for a few euro but it has no airrelease or whatever. I tryed better foil but it still sucks. So if you buy foil, buy good foil like 3m or vivid. Its a lilbit more expensive but if you try to wrap your car of headlights and it doesnt work its a realy stressfull job to do. The next time i spend a lilbit more money because the other foil i had was crap. It was like on the car 🤔 off the car and then in the garbage.
I see you wrapped a BMW i3. I am planning to wrap my i3's hood and roof. Anything I need to do special for the work? Thanks
would like to see a test between avery sc900 vs Vvivid. im considering to go with avery for a ghost snow pearl wrap on my car
@@CoLewGaming whats your experience with vivvid?
like your honest demo
Price difference would help as well.
I work in a wrapshop in Thailand atm. i'm danish but, we use china wrap sometimes when the customer is being cheap. Basically if you are working with a very thick film you can apply some baby shampoo with a soft sponge on the main area, but not the corners, it allows for the air to move more fluently, and avoid air bubbles.
Also the chinese film in the video, i'm pretty sure it's not made for wrapping entire vehicles, we were talking about it in the shop the other day when we were looking at the sample book, they do make one with a coating on top of the diamonds so it doesn't break.
Part 2 please
What’s the best affordable vinyl to use when you’re on a budget?
I would wait to save up and buy quality. You get what you pay for.
But it’s not all the same thing. Maybe in the US market but if you source overseas you can get all variations of film.
Need Advise. I want to wrap my car interior trims to piano gloss black. What brand and film is the best to use and where do I purchase it from thanks
Where you buy the big film
Give me the good site for buy bigger film and good quality please?
I got a Chinese brand wrap 5ft tall 90feet Long I want to learn to wrap. costed 270 just until I learn better I’ll use vivid products do you recommend to try out China products. Because I don’t want to spend 600+ and mess up badly
Hey nice video I’m thinking about wrapping my cars window visor with vivid only because I don’t like the color that it came in would it hold up
Do you always need to use heat to apply vinyl as a standard protocol and does it always need to be stretched? I know Mirror looks better stretched but besides surface prep, what’s the easiest kind of vinyl to install and why? I know colors act different and images can’t be over stretched but in a nutshell what are the rule of thumb?
this is exactly what i was hoping to see..... thank you sir.
Please! I need to know the name or part number for the blue vinyl second and third from the top on the wall behind you!!! Thanks 😬
looks like avery diamond blue. I used it on a corvette. good vinyl, it is easy to loose the gloss finish while forming because of the glitter.
Thats a beautiful watch
The Chinese stuff is calandered as to to Vvivid and 3M is cast
Not so sure about that. I wrapped a corvette in the Vivid liquid metal green, and less than year later, it came back turning black, and the edges had pulled back a half an inch from the edge. Not what I would expect from cast for sure. On top of that, the vinyl came off in tiny chips, and I am still trying to get it off. The adhesive is pure hell and does not come off clean at all.
@@dr.graves5541 they advertise as cast
@@dr.graves5541 my vivid started to turn brown then black as well and it did look like it shrunk a bit, getting it off was a pain, as soon as it cooled it would crack instantly
@@DirtyBrew Ya, they advertise as cast, and that is why I just ordered a swatch book and began selling wraps for dragsters. The liquid metal colors are beautiful and I have done some printed designs on the chrome as well that looked awesome. I have had to deal with shrinkage on a couple of wraps, and fortunately, the time the cars spend outdoors is minimal.
After seeing a couple of Vvivid's Amazon reviews calling them out for selling counterfeit vinyl, I would NEVER do business with them, the product listing is titled: "ORAFOL ORACAL 6510 Cast Vinyl" It is clearly NOT an Oracal product though...
jamie1177
1.0 out of 5 stars
NOT ORACAL 651 !!
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2020
Verified Purchase
Product IS NOT Oracal 651 don't be fooled by the similar name.
Johanna
1.0 out of 5 stars
Product is a counterfeit.
Reviewed in the United States on July 16, 2018
Verified Purchase
Product is an overpriced counterfeit. Claims to be Oracal 651 and there's no indication of it on the back yet photo states its Oracal!
Source: www.amazon.com/Fluorescent-Silhouette-Including-Detailer-Squeegee/product-reviews/B0784D5BSY
Hello, please do a comparison like this with Hexis and 3M
Its crazy you say your first experience with Chinese film it was so sticky you thought you would rip the hood off, that literally just happened to me today but with vvivid gloss black xpo, that wrap is wayyyy too sticky i only removed backing paper and it wouldn't lift off the roof for me to even glass out..
Here is the problem with most of them, you have to buy a whole roll of 5' x 50 yards, at a unreasonable price, and with most of them you have to have a shop, sign up or they won't sell to you. Vivid is an exception, as they sell smaller quantities on Ebay and Amazon. Ebay also sells the Chinese brands. I took a chance on a beautiful Chameleon purple gold wrap in high gloss. Keeping fingers crossed that it isn't junk. Got it from AliExpress. I want to wrap a motorcycle, not a car.
Hey, did u wrap a bike. Was it a good vinyl to work with ?
CK Wraps, Im looking for a Vvivid gloss black for a black BMW, which Vvivid would you suggest/recommend that comes closest to the original BMW black. Its for the doorpilars. Thanks love your work.
Use Avery gloss black...Vvivid has no play unless you buy their tack reducer
Great video, I already clicked the subscribe button…
**QUESTION** Would the 3M be good for aluminum siding on an old pontoon boat?
I tried CYS and RG brand, Chinese vinyl, not bad. Even some other no brand vinyl, cheaper price with so so quality. The trick is, before you place an order online for Chinese vinyl, you need to tell them that you are looking for High Quality vinyl with 160g back paper.
By the way, it is not logical to compare world-top-brand products with no-brand-chinese-made stuff, what do you want to compare?
I live in Quebec, with all the "Nice" winter time and I'd like to know what I should use to ensure a couple years services from those vinyl..... Thanks
Keep you car in the dark, warm and don’t bring it out....😂😂😂
@@grahamscanlan9 😂
How do they all compare in longevity? Do the cheaper ones fade, does the 3m fade at all?
Plz do more of these videos
Almost bought some ebay wrap today until I watched one of your videos
DrewTheDestroyer go on amazon they sell vivvid cheap
Isn't there a higher quality Vvivid? Not sure if the cheap stuff is legit either. Official stuff comes from Canada I believe. I may be wrong, but I'm sure this was mentioned before.
@@20tea Go for Avery dennison SW900. If you looking for a bit cheaper but a bit harder to install try hexis HX20000 or Oracal 970RA. Theres alot more brands
Which one should i use
Thanks, I'm still going to experiment with the Chinese stuff tho from Aliexpress, get to learn from that then move on to VVIVID eventually.
Vvivid and ali express is literally the same thing lol
Hey, did you try ? Was the wrap worth from Aliexpress ?
please next time use a sharpie to label the product. Thanks,