I use Motul Transoil Expert 10W40. My bike takes 710ml. I pour 800ml, level the bike and let the excess oil drain and its about 90ml. The bike is '20 300 EXC with 110 hours, oil change every 15-20 hours depending on the level of extreme.
Your oil volume is very close to what I measured. Lots of people have stripped the oil level hole threads. As such I don't use the oil level normally. Once you've measured how much you oil volume you need, just drain and refill using a measured amount and there is no risk to stripping the oil level screw threads...
Spot on! I expected mine to take 800 ml like previous models but my 21 wants 720 ml. I also changed at 2.5hrs and was surprised how dark it was. Changed again at 10hrs and it looked good. Thanks for the video!
The dark color is due to the material that KTM started using for the clutch plates since the 2017 model. My oil is the same color as Tokyo Off-Road's oil whether I change it at 5 hours or 20 hours.
I got tired of removing that little screw to check oil levels on my 2019 300 xc-w not only because it was so small but also the wear and tear, so I purchased one of the covers with a site glass on it and it works great, plus it’s made of billet aluminum and much stronger. Purchased the cover (orange) from Slaven’s Racing in case anyones interested.
Fresh oil is cheap insurance! It's a lot less to keep fresh fluids in them then to fix problems after they've broken because of old fluids or no fluids.
So, I did my oil about the same hour-mark as you on my 2021 300 XCW. I even used a similar style oil measure/column as you. Got about the same amount of debris on the drain and also a similar amount of oil out - about 740ml. The main difference is that when I refilled with a measured 800ml, all but about 20ml went in before oil was seen coming out of the "oil level" hole. Once again - great video. Thanks. This one definitely goes to "11".
I just did my 2020 XC 300 TPI and had similar results. My drain measurement was 725ml but my pour-in measurment ended up being 770ml. Check my other comment I left for more details. Did you warm up bike before draining?
I just did my 2020 XC 300 TPI and measured out 725ml when draining (leaning bike over to get last drips). When filling it up, I put in 770ml before it came out of the drain hole. And I was very slow to pour in after I put in 725ml; allowing the oil to settle. No idea why the difference. I drained the oil when it was hot which may change the volume a bit (manual does say to check oil level when cold). I also checked the oil level before draining to make sure a little bit came out of the check hole and I wasn't low on oil. I think measuring what you pour in is a better approach since it is more representative of what your end goal is. I will be doing another measurement this way on my next oil change to confirm the accuracy of my first pour-in measurement of 770ml.
My method, as shown in the video, is to drain the oil with the bike on the side stand. I do not lean it over to drain the last bit and I do not leave it draining for an extended period of time. Sure I'm not draining as much as I could do, but I like oil changes to be quick and easy, then repeat at regular intervals. Getting out the last 10, or 20ml really doesn't bother me as it will become very diluted when fresh oil is added. When filling to measure oil capacity using the oil level drain you need to make sure that the bike is completely level or the measurement accuracy will not be good. Either way, my opinion is that the amount of transmission oil used is not super critical. Too much oil and clutch drag (especially when cold) will increase a little.
@@TokyoOffroad I'm just baffled that I have different measurements between draining and filling. And yes my bike was very level. I actually purchased a level to make sure it was, lol. Another commenter on this video also mentioned that his drain and fill measurements were different.
Very similar result to my measurement. The oil volume is not super critical. The manual specifies 800ml which would be well above the oil level check and would result in more clutch drag, particularly when cold, but other than that isn’t really an issue.
I haven't used the stock pipe as I know they are very difficult to repair due to the ribs. I decided that I'd take it off and run an FMF Gnarly pipe from 0H. The stock pipe will go back on when/if I sell the bike...
@@TokyoOffroad OK, I seen your old video of FMF Gnarly on your 2017 250 EXC and I'm curious to know if it have the same behaviour also on 2020/2021 TPI bike... Regarding the oil change, the first change on 5 hours, I measure 690ml out. I normally insert 750ml on oil change. Next oil change I will mesure again.
Hello! I just bought the same bike ( 2021 exc 300) and in local dealer store they highly recommended to use Cross Power 4t 10w50 instead Top Speed 15w50. Reason for this swoupe is better clutch work. Is it worth? Thank's
I've got a 2022 GasGas EC 300. Surprise! I'm going to treat it like every Japaneses bike I've ever owned. Little to no maintenance. I've got 30 hrs on the engine in 3 weeks. I'll change the gear oil next spring. I'll do the top end at 300 hrs. These are the best made bikes in the world, correct? Shouldn't they stand up to the same abuse as say an old KDX 200. I'll find out.
Most people follow the service schedule pretty closely on these bikes as maintenance is quick and easy to do, especially things like gear oil changes. It's a very good idea to change the gear oil on a new bike after the first ride as the oil will pick up a lot of debris from the new transmission. Regarding the top end overhaul, my recommendation would do it at no longer than 150H, or earlier if you ride the bike hard (100H or less). If you do decide to stretch it to 300H it would be great to see some photos/video of the piston and cylinder condition.
Btw, the manual for my 2020 XC 300 says 10nm for the oil check screw. I wonder why they would be different? Maybe they lowered it for 2021 because people were stripping them? EDIT: Just checked 2021 XC manual and it is 8nm so they did change it from 10nm down to 8nm. Damn, I wonder what else they changed. I think I'll just start using the 2021 manual.
Good catch! Yes, many, many people have stripped the oil level check screw case threads so I'm sure that's why the spec changed to 8Nm. This is why I like to calculate how much oil I need to add after draining the oil (as shown in the video), then never use the oil level check screw again. It also makes oil changes much quicker and cleaner...
Wow, that's a lot of oil! I run a radiator fan and my clutch life on previous bikes has been good so personally don't see a good reason to increase the amount of transmission oil. Motorex Top Speed 15W-50 is the recommended oil by KTM and I've always used it in all my 2T bikes since 2017. Clutch life and performance (no slipping) is good so I haven't considered using anything else.
Yes, wait until oil stops coming out, or slows to a slow drip. Draining will be much quicker if the engine is warm when you change the oil. The ODT instruction document is here: www.tokyooffroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ODT_TO-003.pdf
I have done 2 oil changes on my 2021 300 xc. The first oil change I did was at 10 hours and the second one was at 15 hours, one thing I have noticed is that the oil is really really dark any ideas why ? All my other 2ts where never this dark.
I changed gear oil on my tpi, before I did it everything was fine, but now the clutch won’t engage. I haven’t started the bike yet, but it won’t roll in gear even when the clutch is pulled in. Do you know what to do now?
@@Adam-rh8fj Changing the transmission oil would not result in the clutch not working, unless you didn’t put oil in, rode the bike, the clutch overheated and the clutch plates got stuck together. My recommendation is to lay the bike over to the left, remove the small clutch cover, observe whether the clutch pressure plate moves away from the clutch pack when you pull the clutch lever in. If it doesn’t you might have air in the clutch hydraulic line (bleed it), or the clutch master or slave require overhauling. If the pressure plate moves OK when you pull the clutch lever in then the problem is probably with the clutch pack. The plates can get stuck together if the clutch overheats badly. Disassemble the clutch, inspect and replace the plates if necessary.
I have the same bike. Any idea why gas leaks out when I lay my bike on its side? Have done multiple oil changes and it used to never leak gas. Not coming from the cap.
That's strange. The only place fuel can leak out from the tank is from the vent hose and that would usually only happen if the bike is completely on its side, or upside down. My advice is to watch carefully and figure out where it's coming from
@@TokyoOffroad thank you. It must be from the vent hose. Maybe my gas tank wasn’t full on previous oil changes so fuel wasn’t reaching the top of the tank.
You’ll just have a higher level of oil which will cause more clutch drag (especially when the engine is cold). Yes, try 720ml. You’ll save a little money too.
I just did my first oil change of my new 2022 300XC and I swear that after the oil change i have trouble getting the bike to shift into 4th gear? I put in 800ml and never checked the drain plug. Could too much oil cause that?
The oil volume should not affect gear shifting. I suspect that shifting will probably improve with some use as it's a new bike. However, I do recommend that you discuss with your dealer so they know in case it doesn't improve, or gets worse. Oil volume will affect is clutch drag, particularly when the engine is still cold so if you feel you have too much drag I would try less oil volume for the next oil change. I use 720ml.
i know this is kind of a neurotic question but how do you really know when your engine is level for measurement… your stand can be level but does that mean the bike is level? or should you always just measure when’s it’s on the wheels?
It’s the bike that needs to be level, front to rear, side to side. If the ground is level and the bike is on a center stand you can measure the wheel to ground distance and adjust if necessary to get it level front to rear. Side to side you can measure the end of the handlebar grip to ground to check the left right levelness and adjust if necessary.
@@TokyoOffroad thank you for the response! i’m just thinking everyone’s sag is set different and sometimes their forks are slid up or down in the triple clamps… wouldn’t measuring from wheels be different for different people? sorry, i know i’m probably over thinking this.
How do you know its 720ml everytime?..You never get all the oil from the system..You either drain completely and add 800ml or pour until oil drains from the window, which will always be a different amount.
I always drain mine on the side stand in the same place in my garage, so the angle the bike is at is a constant. Drain to drain consistency is high. You can't drain completely (800ml) as you'd need to disassemble the bottom end and clean the oil off all parts. I do not recommend using the drain level screw each time as it is very easy to strip the thread in the case when reinstalling the screw.
Thank you for the great video. My 2020 150 XC-W TPI is also about 700ml. I used to add the factory-recommended 800ml, which far exceeds the oil level screw. I had some noticeable clutch drag, which was improved by reducing the oil amount to 700ml, although it is still reluctant to go backward with clutch fully disengaged. I wonder if experience the clutch drag too.
My 20 300exc was the same, massive clutch drag with 800ml. Got alot better with 700 but I can still feel the slight drag. Hopefully someone figures out a proper fix, it's my only issue with my bike.
Congrats on the the new bike, Mark! :) I don't really understand why you need to measure it and why don't just put the 800ml the manual says, it's not that you're putting much more and I think a bit of extra oil is on the safe side than having less.
Thanks! Regarding oil level, the method detailed in the owners manual is to use the oil level hole to set the level. 800ml supposedly the total oil capacity if the engine has been stripped and cleaned. Putting 800ml in when changing oil will result in slightly increased clutch drag due to the higher oil height. But if that (drag) doesn’t bother you I don’t think it’s a problem...
@@TokyoOffroad on the road i would use 17inch sumo wheels, how often do you think i need to change oil? If i am riding one hour a day with mediocre pace.. maybe every two weeks? Should be fine?
Thanks for the response. One last question - has it reduced chain chatter in the lower lugging rpms? I’m OCD and want to reduce / eliminate that chatter. Btw - 20 TE300i is my bike. Really enjoy your videos!
I have had good results using Motorex oil. It's easily available here and no more expensive than other similar oils. As such I haven't considered using anything else...
your only dealing with oil for the gears/clutch, which .6L is obviously engineered to be enough. My last yamaha 450 took .8L for both engine/clutch altogether
I think on a new bike it’s a good idea to change the transmission oil after the first ride. After that use the regular interval. Personal I change every 15H or so. Yes, I know the manual states 45H (for the 2024) but I tend to slip the clutch a fair bit during the riding I do so choose a shorter interval.
@@TokyoOffroadfor sure! I’ll stay on top of it now that I know how quick and easy it is. It’s my first bike, first oil change I’ve done and it was pretty babied for those hours. No chunks, just a little gunk .
I think it really depends on how you’re using the bike. For the riding I do (mostly slower mountain riding) I slip the clutch quite a bit and this reduces the effective life of the oil. When I change the oil (every 10-15H) it always looks it needs changing. So I’m certainly not overdoing it...
I change fluids in every vehicle I own about twice as much as the manufacturer recommends. You don't have much of a warranty on these bikes and oil and drain plugs are cheep.
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Love this video. Straight to the point and no mucking around
I use Motul Transoil Expert 10W40. My bike takes 710ml. I pour 800ml, level the bike and let the excess oil drain and its about 90ml. The bike is '20 300 EXC with 110 hours, oil change every 15-20 hours depending on the level of extreme.
Your oil volume is very close to what I measured. Lots of people have stripped the oil level hole threads. As such I don't use the oil level normally. Once you've measured how much you oil volume you need, just drain and refill using a measured amount and there is no risk to stripping the oil level screw threads...
Spot on! I expected mine to take 800 ml like previous models but my 21 wants 720 ml. I also changed at 2.5hrs and was surprised how dark it was. Changed again at 10hrs and it looked good. Thanks for the video!
glad to know. first time i drained a TE300 i thought clutch lining was busted. so i have to get visual check and its all good. damn they soiled
The dark color is due to the material that KTM started using for the clutch plates since the 2017 model. My oil is the same color as Tokyo Off-Road's oil whether I change it at 5 hours or 20 hours.
I got tired of removing that little screw to check oil levels on my 2019 300 xc-w not only because it was so small but also the wear and tear, so I purchased one of the covers with a site glass on it and it works great, plus it’s made of billet aluminum and much stronger. Purchased the cover (orange) from Slaven’s Racing in case anyones interested.
That's one solution. My method is to not use the oil level check screw and instead put in the same oil amount each time. Quick and easy...
Fresh oil is cheap insurance! It's a lot less to keep fresh fluids in them then to fix problems after they've broken because of old fluids or no fluids.
Thanks for the video! About do mine on my TE250 2022!
So, I did my oil about the same hour-mark as you on my 2021 300 XCW.
I even used a similar style oil measure/column as you.
Got about the same amount of debris on the drain and also a similar amount of oil out - about 740ml.
The main difference is that when I refilled with a measured 800ml, all but about 20ml went in before oil was seen coming out of the "oil level" hole.
Once again - great video. Thanks. This one definitely goes to "11".
I just did my 2020 XC 300 TPI and had similar results. My drain measurement was 725ml but my pour-in measurment ended up being 770ml. Check my other comment I left for more details. Did you warm up bike before draining?
@@danpluso I always warm my bike(s) up before any oil change - 2-stroke or 4-stroke.
I just did my 2020 XC 300 TPI and measured out 725ml when draining (leaning bike over to get last drips). When filling it up, I put in 770ml before it came out of the drain hole. And I was very slow to pour in after I put in 725ml; allowing the oil to settle. No idea why the difference. I drained the oil when it was hot which may change the volume a bit (manual does say to check oil level when cold). I also checked the oil level before draining to make sure a little bit came out of the check hole and I wasn't low on oil. I think measuring what you pour in is a better approach since it is more representative of what your end goal is. I will be doing another measurement this way on my next oil change to confirm the accuracy of my first pour-in measurement of 770ml.
My method, as shown in the video, is to drain the oil with the bike on the side stand. I do not lean it over to drain the last bit and I do not leave it draining for an extended period of time. Sure I'm not draining as much as I could do, but I like oil changes to be quick and easy, then repeat at regular intervals. Getting out the last 10, or 20ml really doesn't bother me as it will become very diluted when fresh oil is added. When filling to measure oil capacity using the oil level drain you need to make sure that the bike is completely level or the measurement accuracy will not be good. Either way, my opinion is that the amount of transmission oil used is not super critical. Too much oil and clutch drag (especially when cold) will increase a little.
@@TokyoOffroad I'm just baffled that I have different measurements between draining and filling. And yes my bike was very level. I actually purchased a level to make sure it was, lol. Another commenter on this video also mentioned that his drain and fill measurements were different.
My 2022 300 XC TPI drained 700 ml..
I put 700 ml back in and checked the level via the check plug cold & the oil just trickled out the check hole.
Very similar result to my measurement. The oil volume is not super critical. The manual specifies 800ml which would be well above the oil level check and would result in more clutch drag, particularly when cold, but other than that isn’t really an issue.
Thanks for your videos!!! I see you put on a FMF Gnarly... I'm evaluating it for my Husky TE250i 2020. Did you notice differences from the stock one?
I haven't used the stock pipe as I know they are very difficult to repair due to the ribs. I decided that I'd take it off and run an FMF Gnarly pipe from 0H. The stock pipe will go back on when/if I sell the bike...
@@TokyoOffroad OK, I seen your old video of FMF Gnarly on your 2017 250 EXC and I'm curious to know if it have the same behaviour also on 2020/2021 TPI bike... Regarding the oil change, the first change on 5 hours, I measure 690ml out. I normally insert 750ml on oil change. Next oil change I will mesure again.
Hello! I just bought the same bike ( 2021 exc 300) and in local dealer store they highly recommended to use Cross Power 4t 10w50 instead Top Speed 15w50. Reason for this swoupe is better clutch work. Is it worth? Thank's
I've got a 2022 GasGas EC 300. Surprise! I'm going to treat it like every Japaneses bike I've ever owned. Little to no maintenance. I've got 30 hrs on the engine in 3 weeks. I'll change the gear oil next spring. I'll do the top end at 300 hrs. These are the best made bikes in the world, correct? Shouldn't they stand up to the same abuse as say an old KDX 200. I'll find out.
Most people follow the service schedule pretty closely on these bikes as maintenance is quick and easy to do, especially things like gear oil changes. It's a very good idea to change the gear oil on a new bike after the first ride as the oil will pick up a lot of debris from the new transmission. Regarding the top end overhaul, my recommendation would do it at no longer than 150H, or earlier if you ride the bike hard (100H or less). If you do decide to stretch it to 300H it would be great to see some photos/video of the piston and cylinder condition.
Btw, the manual for my 2020 XC 300 says 10nm for the oil check screw. I wonder why they would be different? Maybe they lowered it for 2021 because people were stripping them?
EDIT: Just checked 2021 XC manual and it is 8nm so they did change it from 10nm down to 8nm. Damn, I wonder what else they changed. I think I'll just start using the 2021 manual.
Good catch! Yes, many, many people have stripped the oil level check screw case threads so I'm sure that's why the spec changed to 8Nm. This is why I like to calculate how much oil I need to add after draining the oil (as shown in the video), then never use the oil level check screw again. It also makes oil changes much quicker and cleaner...
Ich habe die Öl kontroll schraube das Gewinde beschädigt hm soll ich Gewinde Einsätze nutzen?
In Korea, ktm or hsq tpi model 1000ml is added because of engine overheating. Is there any problem with using 4t engine oil instead of mission oil?
Wow, that's a lot of oil! I run a radiator fan and my clutch life on previous bikes has been good so personally don't see a good reason to increase the amount of transmission oil. Motorex Top Speed 15W-50 is the recommended oil by KTM and I've always used it in all my 2T bikes since 2017. Clutch life and performance (no slipping) is good so I haven't considered using anything else.
Thanks for the vid! When using the oil level drain, are you suppose to wait until oil stops coming out of the hole?
Yes, wait until oil stops coming out, or slows to a slow drip. Draining will be much quicker if the engine is warm when you change the oil. The ODT instruction document is here: www.tokyooffroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ODT_TO-003.pdf
Hello. I have the 2018 tpi and i want to now how much oil you put in motor. I have already the tole frome you. Gr max
I have done 2 oil changes on my 2021 300 xc. The first oil change I did was at 10 hours and the second one was at 15 hours, one thing I have noticed is that the oil is really really dark any ideas why ? All my other 2ts where never this dark.
Great information ! I have the same bike, I’m looking forward to more videos on these bikes 👍
Thanks, will do!
I changed gear oil on my tpi, before I did it everything was fine, but now the clutch won’t engage. I haven’t started the bike yet, but it won’t roll in gear even when the clutch is pulled in. Do you know what to do now?
@@Adam-rh8fj Changing the transmission oil would not result in the clutch not working, unless you didn’t put oil in, rode the bike, the clutch overheated and the clutch plates got stuck together. My recommendation is to lay the bike over to the left, remove the small clutch cover, observe whether the clutch pressure plate moves away from the clutch pack when you pull the clutch lever in. If it doesn’t you might have air in the clutch hydraulic line (bleed it), or the clutch master or slave require overhauling. If the pressure plate moves OK when you pull the clutch lever in then the problem is probably with the clutch pack. The plates can get stuck together if the clutch overheats badly. Disassemble the clutch, inspect and replace the plates if necessary.
Thanks for the video, just ordered my kit.
Pleased that you enjoyed the video and thanks for your order. I'll ship to you tomorrow by UPS. You should receive it on Monday.
@@TokyoOffroad My man, thank you!
I have the same bike. Any idea why gas leaks out when I lay my bike on its side?
Have done multiple oil changes and it used to never leak gas. Not coming from the cap.
That's strange. The only place fuel can leak out from the tank is from the vent hose and that would usually only happen if the bike is completely on its side, or upside down. My advice is to watch carefully and figure out where it's coming from
@@TokyoOffroad thank you. It must be from the vent hose. Maybe my gas tank wasn’t full on previous oil changes so fuel wasn’t reaching the top of the tank.
hi there I do ride at te300i I gonna do the oil change , do you know the size of the Copper washers for oil plug?
thanks
The copper washer size is 12X18X1.5mm
Is rhe bike bloody level (on a stand) or on the kickstand on camber (on a level surface)when talking measurment.
The bike needs to be level to take the oil level measurement.
Hi there!
I have 300 2023 tpi and i always put 850cc
Can i make any damage by that?
Should i also put 720cc?
Thanks!
You’ll just have a higher level of oil which will cause more clutch drag (especially when the engine is cold). Yes, try 720ml. You’ll save a little money too.
@@TokyoOffroad thank you!
And thank you for such a great videos✊🏻
Hi, what is the size of copper washer I need to replace? If you have recommended copper washer to buy on web please share 🙏
M12, OD=18mm, thickness=1.5mm. I buy mine from a local car parts store which sells them in a 10 pack at a reasonable price.
I just did my first oil change of my new 2022 300XC and I swear that after the oil change i have trouble getting the bike to shift into 4th gear? I put in 800ml and never checked the drain plug. Could too much oil cause that?
The oil volume should not affect gear shifting. I suspect that shifting will probably improve with some use as it's a new bike. However, I do recommend that you discuss with your dealer so they know in case it doesn't improve, or gets worse. Oil volume will affect is clutch drag, particularly when the engine is still cold so if you feel you have too much drag I would try less oil volume for the next oil change. I use 720ml.
Are the ktms good to mix oil in the pre mix tanks im old school snd like to do it in the tank i dont no how reliable the system is
You should not mix pre mix in the fuel tank on the TPI'S absolutely pointless
i know this is kind of a neurotic question but how do you really know when your engine is level for measurement… your stand can be level but does that mean the bike is level? or should you always just measure when’s it’s on the wheels?
It’s the bike that needs to be level, front to rear, side to side. If the ground is level and the bike is on a center stand you can measure the wheel to ground distance and adjust if necessary to get it level front to rear. Side to side you can measure the end of the handlebar grip to ground to check the left right levelness and adjust if necessary.
@@TokyoOffroad thank you for the response! i’m just thinking everyone’s sag is set different and sometimes their forks are slid up or down in the triple clamps… wouldn’t measuring from wheels be different for different people? sorry, i know i’m probably over thinking this.
Hey been following your videos; manual for 21 250 tpi says change oil at 5 hrs then every 40. Seems a bit high, what do you recommend?
Yes, I wouldn't recommend leaving it that long. I'd say every 15H is a good interval, but it depends on how hard you ride the bike.
@@TokyoOffroad thanks!
How do you know its 720ml everytime?..You never get all the oil from the system..You either drain completely and add 800ml or pour until oil drains from the window, which will always be a different amount.
I always drain mine on the side stand in the same place in my garage, so the angle the bike is at is a constant. Drain to drain consistency is high. You can't drain completely (800ml) as you'd need to disassemble the bottom end and clean the oil off all parts. I do not recommend using the drain level screw each time as it is very easy to strip the thread in the case when reinstalling the screw.
@@TokyoOffroad I like it. Once you know what a hot engine will require no need to split hairs over being + or - 10 ml.
@@PHXGlock Yes, the oil volume is really not that critical and certainly +/-10ml isn7t doing to cause a noticeable difference...
Thank you for the great video. My 2020 150 XC-W TPI is also about 700ml. I used to add the factory-recommended 800ml, which far exceeds the oil level screw. I had some noticeable clutch drag, which was improved by reducing the oil amount to 700ml, although it is still reluctant to go backward with clutch fully disengaged. I wonder if experience the clutch drag too.
My 20 300exc was the same, massive clutch drag with 800ml. Got alot better with 700 but I can still feel the slight drag. Hopefully someone figures out a proper fix, it's my only issue with my bike.
@@robthomas3488 they still haven’t figured it out haha. I got a 22’ TE300i and it has clutch drag.
@@HardEnduroLlewellyn wow i just bought te250i and I was scared that clutch is used but now maybe it wont be that bad. I need to check it.
Congrats on the the new bike, Mark! :)
I don't really understand why you need to measure it and why don't just put the 800ml the manual says, it's not that you're putting much more and I think a bit of extra oil is on the safe side than having less.
Thanks! Regarding oil level, the method detailed in the owners manual is to use the oil level hole to set the level. 800ml supposedly the total oil capacity if the engine has been stripped and cleaned. Putting 800ml in when changing oil will result in slightly increased clutch drag due to the higher oil height. But if that (drag) doesn’t bother you I don’t think it’s a problem...
@@TokyoOffroad Thanks for the answer :)
is it possible to ride a bike like this for everyday use in a small town?
i mean maintenance wise, can it take it if you change oil frequently and respect it ?
You could do, but my opinion, considering maintenance and tire wear, is it would be better to get something else as your daily ride on the road.
@@TokyoOffroad on the road i would use 17inch sumo wheels, how often do you think i need to change oil? If i am riding one hour a day with mediocre pace.. maybe every two weeks? Should be fine?
do you also sell your old bikes?
I sold my 2019 KTM 250 TPI. Currently I have a 2017 KTM 250 EXC, 2017 KTM 300 EXC and a 2021 KTM 300 EXC TPI
@@TokyoOffroad lucky owner. though beaten by trail. sure its well taken care inside. all that matters
@@TokyoOffroad do you still love them carbureted models?
@@n6rcan - Yes, absolutely. They’re so much fun to ride...
Any anecdotal feedback for the TM Design chain guides?
I really like the TMD chain guides. Strong, tough and last an incredible number of hours (at least 4x the stock guide). Well worth the money IMO
Thanks for the response. One last question - has it reduced chain chatter in the lower lugging rpms? I’m OCD and want to reduce / eliminate that chatter. Btw - 20 TE300i is my bike. Really enjoy your videos!
Where did you get that oil measuring cup?
I purchased it from Amazon Japan (1L measuring cylinder) a couple of years ago
What's your thoughts on using a non Motorex oil... ( Diesel oil ) with more frequent changes?
I have had good results using Motorex oil. It's easily available here and no more expensive than other similar oils. As such I haven't considered using anything else...
I bought mine!
Thank you!
I had only 0.6L in my a new 300 2021! I was really shocked and I know that it is "running oil" but only 0.6? The quality of KTM is declining.
your only dealing with oil for the gears/clutch, which .6L is obviously engineered to be enough. My last yamaha 450 took .8L for both engine/clutch altogether
Shit. I put probably 30+ hours on my ‘23 ex300 before first change
I think on a new bike it’s a good idea to change the transmission oil after the first ride. After that use the regular interval. Personal I change every 15H or so. Yes, I know the manual states 45H (for the 2024) but I tend to slip the clutch a fair bit during the riding I do so choose a shorter interval.
@@TokyoOffroadfor sure! I’ll stay on top of it now that I know how quick and easy it is. It’s my first bike, first oil change I’ve done and it was pretty babied for those hours. No chunks, just a little gunk .
15hr changes are typical for 4T. You're definitely overdoing it.
I think it really depends on how you’re using the bike. For the riding I do (mostly slower mountain riding) I slip the clutch quite a bit and this reduces the effective life of the oil. When I change the oil (every 10-15H) it always looks it needs changing. So I’m certainly not overdoing it...
I change fluids in every vehicle I own about twice as much as the manufacturer recommends.
You don't have much of a warranty on these bikes and oil and drain plugs are cheep.
That’s alright I’d you can afford to do that
I didn't have that much s#$t on magnet after 40 hours...
I went 13 hours ugh
Hello, can you help me, which size of washer you need when changing oil in KTM TPI 300 EXC, thank you.
The oil drain copper washer size is 12x18x1.5mm