IAN'S TSR DRIVER FITTING // Inside Ian’s Fitting at the Titleist Performance Institute in Oceanside
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Today, Ian switches roles and heads to Oceanside, California to be fitted by J.J. Van Wezenbeeck, who is Titleist’s Director of Player Promotions.
The new TSR models made their debut at the Travelers Championship in June, where 18 players switched the first week it was available for competition.
Following that, it was seen at The 150th Open Championship, where Cameron Smith edged runner-up Cameron Young by one shot, giving the Titleist TSR3 a 1-2 finish at the year’s final major.
The TSR2 is a “max” performance driver offering a combination of speed and stability, while the TSR3 provides speed and distance through precision tuning technologies such as SureFit Adjustable CG Track weighting. The TSR4’s adjustable weighting system allows for more control than ever over spin conditions.
Each of the three models-the TSR2, TSR3 and TSR4 provide distinct performance options for a variety of players.
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Was fitted into a TSR4 a week ago at a Titleist event. It’s a beast! Ill have it in my hands on Monday!
Nice fitting Ian... I've been playing Tsi3 for a year now and loving it. I have your same speed and similar launch parameters as you. Would love to see you hit and compare TSi3 vs TSr3. Congrats on the growth of the channel and the brand👏
You know your tech knowledge is on a whole different level when Ian asks what the shaft profile difference is, they make a hand gesture and they BOTH are on the same page 😂 Love this video and these new TSRs. Definitely excited to go hit them!
I saw the same thing.
Don’t sleep on TSR4 in the “3.5” setting 👀. Hit them all today and went in excited for the 2 after all the reviews. Played the TSi3 a bit last year but it wasn’t quite right and I’m getting old and losing speed. Ended up in the 4 with the back CG setup shockingly and I gained 5 mph ball speed & 10-15 yards of carry against my gamer and against the the 2 & 3. Most wow factor for me though was the spin dispersion. Didn’t matter where I hit it on the face, it stayed between 2100-2500 RPMs. The 2 & 3 for me would range from 1800-3500. Apparently that’s why you get fit 🤷♂️😂
Love the high-level technical knowledge in this video. You just don’t see that in any driver fitting ever! Also Ian is crushing it on his drives.😮
Yeah bro was on autopilot. He’s swinging it really well
The "Ahhhh" at 6:26 that didn't get away from you left is, for me, one of the most interesting swings you made. The TSR3 still maintains forgiveness at your player loft (disclaimer your player swing). I just love your content. Your exceptional knowledge gives you this expert access but it's all delivered with amazing accessibility with absolute "we're not worthy" levels of fandom. Thanks guys, excellent content as always.
respect, Ian for putting yourself out there in making swings and being able to chat about the spec's!
Time Index (12:08) "If we're playing for money today, I'm putting you in this" - the difference between real golf and range/practice golf. Awesome video - the 45" gamer
great video, absolutely love hearing the passion in each others voice engaging with each other in a fitting. top notch!!!
I love it the fitter and the fitter….golf technicians at there finest…
Been waiting for this one before I watch any other Titleist TSR reviews. TXG owns the club knowledge and fitting space. 💪💪
I had to watch Ian’s fitting session twice. It was not only incredibly informative but an absolute stripe show with the new TSRs. Well done. I’m have gamed the TS and TSi3 models over the past couple of years. The TSi3 is the best driver I have hit. Not only is it a speed beast but incredibly stable. I am a higher swing speed player (avg 124 mph / mid 180s ball speed) so I am excited to see the nuances the TSR3 offers. I just nabbed mine yesterday. 💪💪💪👍👍👍🙌💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
That was pure gold. Seems the fitting went well because Ian knows what shot shape he wants and in what conditions. That may be the key when getting fitted. Additionally the fitter referenced Ian’s iron swing and not wanting to mess with it while fitting the driver……seems getting the right fitter makes all the difference
Ian “fake” asking questions he already knows the answers too! Haha Love it!
Now I’ll be able to finally get a tsi driver for under 200$
TSI is so good. People will be rewarded for waiting!
Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe I can find one with an autoflex on eBay.
😂
A tsi under 200 is going to have idiot marks all over the top of it lol
Ya I don’t think you’ll find a decent TSI for less then 450$
Fingers crossed that Ian gets in a non Taylor made driver soon 🤞
Really enjoyed that Ian. Much prefer your swing when your not chasing speed!
Id love when it comes to TXG reviewing these guys to talk a little bit more on how the surefit performance guide and track work.
i hope they put on a harder finish than the tsi hybrids have. Skied mine and the boys couldn't believe how deeply etched the scuffs were!
New intro, dig it!
You guys cost me a lot of money 😬
I don’t understand ball speed, his is 158-160 which is the same as mines but has 30 yards more carry 🤦🏻♂️
I also fast forward the intro, absolute rubbish, bring back the old intro.
17 minutes of Ian ripping driver… Yes please
That's right!! We got our boy Mikey in the intro 💪 Only request is next Ronnie Rocket video we get him on there too 😂
Great review … I see you are using Quad and Trackman … what one do you prefer ?? You can’t sit on the fence … you have to chose 1
How’s that glossy head in the full sun? Would love for Titleist to have a matte option!
Absolutely fine, didn’t notice any issue.
Tensei 1K Black has been great for me. Play a KaiLi as well, but don't have with Titleist adapter.... TSR4 all the way!!
Embargo day! 🥳
That heavy sea-level marine air = lower ballspeed. Lived in it my entire life.
Did you film Mac's fitting too? Saw him hitting next to you a bit.
Ah the great illusion of new driver release: get fit! Ian could get this same Titleist fitting with TS3 from 2018, achieve the same numbers, and nobody would know
Another good video! Will you guys be doing any reviews/fittings of the TSR fairway woods?
Coming tomorrow Jay
Awesome video, its like me and my sniper instructor buddies talking about ballistic coefficients and minutes of angle, and muzzle velocity. hahaha, I geek out of the science of ball flight and golf equipment.
Good angle to listen to you and your fitter while watching Big Mac and Mr. Muni-H8r doing their thing in the background. :D
So, did it kick the SIM out?!
Ball speed seems really low for you Ian?
I was just giddy with excitement watching this video...at the onset it was rife with potential, and got better and better as the fitting progressed. When your fitter starts calling your outputs "BBs", you know you are in a great spot! Well done JJ and Ian and Titleist!!
Love this video. But in the end what was the best combo that Ian liked the most?
It’s crazy how much information they have for a fitting and Ian’s feel make this fitting unbelievable!!
Kudos to you all!!
Video Request: TSR3 head with BGT Brava stiff shaft. Would bet it’s a winner
So Ian in the end which are you leaning towards....given more windy conditions vs those days that the weather is more accommodating? Will it be the T1, T4 or the T3 and making adjustments as they day calls for it? Which shaft felt the most manageable? Hence T3 8 degree @ D1 /w 45" +2G KAI White...or was it the T4 8 degree @ D1 T1 /w 45 +6G KAI White? From what I took from the fitting the T3 gave you more hight a bit more ball speeds vs the T4 ....all being equal. The question is which will give you the more controlled cut....hmmmmm
Absolutely class, This is one of the best videos you guys have ever put out imo. Experts in the craft of fitting finding perfection for Ian’s swing. I’m in the market for my first “fitted driver” just waiting for all the new product to release but this just shows why going to see the experts is so important. Well done guys! Cant wait for more content 👏🏼
Sub 160 mph ball speed and total distance less than 300 is underwhelming for Ian. Just check out previous videos where he’s hitting other drivers. A quality club but certainly not worth $600.
For whatever reason I just couldn’t get my timing the day we filmed this, so I reverted to swinging smoother than I would in the bay. I just tried to give JJ something to work with. Since getting the driver back to the studio I’d say carry is comfortably back up at 290 rolling out to 315ish. It’s a very very good driver, I’d be pretty shocked if there’s another driver line that outperforms these over the next year or so.
Might wait a while before I buy one . Titliest might do there norm and release a TSR 1 later like they did with last range
Getting my forever driver this year so can’t wait for all the unveilings 🙌
Was that Mac I saw in that background? 🤔
Saw the same…
I think I liked watching this the second time around even more than the first!
Can a 20 index get this kind of fitting with Titleist? The TaylorMade fitting was useless.
Why are your distances 15-20 yards shorter than what we see in your other videos?
Using trackman nunbers and it sounded like they said they were hitting into the wind. Did seem like his ball speed was a little low from his usual low 160s though.
If it comes with your swing Ian I’ll take two! 😊
So does shortening the shaft move strikes from toe to center?
The knowledge and expertise on display by both Ian and Titleist were very impressive. Unfortunately so much of went right over my head. Two highly qualified fitting technicians talking is fascinating. But perhaps not something a mid teens handicapper can relate to. If you have not already done it a review of all three new versions but aimed at the layman would be very useful.
My son bought aTSR 1March 2023,after a fitting by Titiest fitters ,East Yorkshire England just been released, in UK
why is your carry so much lower on all of your clubs compared to in the studio when your in the hitting bay only using quad? I mean all your speeds seem down also which I understand quad runs about 4 mph faster than trackman because of how it reads club mph... but you seem to be swinging just as hard as you usually do and the balls going nowhere especially with the fairway wood fitting
What’s the ideal launch? I notice a few of these you say you like the window and the shape etc but it’s launching around 10.5-11ish. I’m around that and was thinking it was too low
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Hey guys, I've been playing the tsi3 all year, played the ts2 last year. Was wondering about your moveable cg comments on the tsr3 during the fitting, I always thought that sliding weight was used heel side for guys that wanted help hitting a draw like me and toe side for guys that preferred some help hitting a fade but in the video in sounded to me like you guys were trying to line that weight up with where you strike the ball most so that the mass was behind your most common strike zone on the face. Can you elaborate and set me straight!
Can you do a break down of the fitting videos to to explain the the lingo and objectives that are trying to be achieved and why you are trying to achieve those objectives? Love the technical talk but just explain what and why it is being said during the process
That’s the definition of range cool right there. Just the flow of conversation and knowledge and the dialing in of performance was just incredible to watch. I love that every click and change had a purpose either to rule something out or bring new ideas to light. Awesome job. One of the best videos I’ve seen and that’s high praise because there are so many great ones. Cheers 🍻
ian u are tsr 3 8 degree u are def not a stiff tip guy maybe ventus red 6x its kinda expensive but you should try seven dreamers shaft its a perfect shaft for 105 - 110 swing speed players buts its really hard to find really stable for good tempo players that are strong that likes to put torque into the shaft
They do look and sound good but come on titleist the price is just pure greed £529 quid for one club what planet are you on especially now
Selfishly I’m dying to see these heads against TSi3 but also against something older like 913D3. Been playing that head forever and have to imagine I’m sacrificing 10-20 yards 😂😂
Chris Baingo is the man
You boys have me excited about the release for sure. One thing I’m curious to know however, what player better suits a Stealth Plus with the movable weight in the front vs the TSR with the weight adjustment in the back ?
Cannot wait to see the ts3, tsi3, and tsr3 comparisons!
Same! I’m still swinging my TS3😮
Confirmed at 10:54 time stamp, Mac removes hat in background and yes he does have hair under there !!!
Fittings like this are the experience that many of us dream about…but it’s just truly not available to the masses.
Mac is in the background! Didn't realize that until the very end of the video 🤣
Acushnet apparel always looks like they just bought some random shirt and ironed on Titleist and obnoxious FJ patches.
Ian, is the stock tensei 1K the real thing?
Yes it is.
@@clubchampionmedia Thank you sir!
Iron swing comments from the fitter... Oh boy, is Ian going to end up in a full Titleist bag now? 🤣
I love the look of the new drivers but I have never been a fan of the Tesnsei shafts: they are terrible. When he switched to the Ventus, boom. A big difference. The shaft makes the drivers. I put a Ventus blue in my 2017 M1 and it is as long as any new driver today. New technology is improving but not at the expense of almost $1,000 after getting a shaft upgrade. Is 5 yds worth that much. NOOOOOOO.
Numbers were perfect Ian
Tsr3 is money dude!!!!
Let’s get Mac’s vid next we see you hiding him in the back haha!
So it's not great on the ball speed, but feels better. Ian is normally in the 165s back at the house.
different systems, indoor/outdoor, tiredness from all the golf. so many factors
Let’s see the big unit in the tent rip some drives 👀
Is it safe to say the new TSR is going in the Bag?😎
Love to see macs swampass in the back at 16:00
How does one get a fitting like that?
I honestly dont know who the 4 was made for. Even tour players seem to prefer the 3
I would have never thought I had any business hitting the 4 and I ended up with it in the rear CG setting they refer to as the “3.5” in my fit. The spin dispersion on it was so tight. I think the secret sauce there is the front/ back weight adjustment, which shockingly this is the first time a Titleist driver has ever had that 🤯
Carrys the ball 300 yrds on the indoor sim now only carries the ball 270 yrds outside ? This an altitude thing ?
Outside is what matters! He is also hitting into the wind I believe, averaging around 157 ball speed and with a real tee on grass.
Yeah, fairly underwhelming results in my opinion.
@@discr1709 I tested this driver a week ago, and it is definitely the real deal
Wish I knew what anyone was on about
As a golf nerd, this was beautiful 😍
What happened to the 2 and the 4?
Man I need to win some book money so I can get myself upgraded from TS3 to TSR3. Or Titleist can just send one and I’ll give a great review from a average Club Champion golfers perspective. Maybe get me to State championship status LOL entering USOPEN Qualifying next year too.
You were a lot shorter than you are back in your studio
Swing Speed was down a fair amount on the trip.
@@ianfrasergolf hi was not having a go just thought it was strange
Can’t wait!!!
So... did it best your gamer?
News on TSR 1?
Coming in the Spring.
What’s Ian’s swing speed?
He plays around 110-115. But can get it up to 120-125.
@@83CODY83 the ball speed on this video is more like a 105-110 mph club speed.
I don't know why Titleist ever does a new driver. They all look the same release over release, color, shape, finish. Pete Finch did a comparison of the last 3 models and the data showed that they are near identical, Speed, Spin, launch, and distance and forgiveness. If you bought either of the last two models, there really is no reason other than, eye candy for your own want, to actually upgrade to this one.
I dont think any real room for improvement is there. just marketing difference. It is the indian not the arrow. and most modern driver heads are already good enough. we just have to find optimized spin and launch head for our own swing. unless I am sponsored by Titleist there is no reason for replacement.
TSR is literally longer. and titles leads in quality as always
@@murraydmark titleist does not lead in quality. They make minute changes claiming vast improvements only to be disproven year over year. Nothing titleist does is evolutionary, only imaginary.
@@troyrambo6804 you're just gonna disagree with raw data
@@murraydmark go look at Finches video and check the raw data comparison. It's a much better comparison that Ian's driver fitting and shows that the last 3 versions are nearly identical in all categories
Damn, the Titleist fitter is good.
JJ is a beauty!!!
Don't really get when indoors carrying 290+ then here no where near?
For one, this data isn’t normalized. Could be some wind, could be only 70 degrees. Plus he’s not full ripping at it because he’s trying to hit a fairway, not smash it on a screen. His CHS in this video is 109-111. If you watch other videos he’s swinging faster at 114-115 inside
I'm sure he is sacrificing some speed and distance playing the shorter drivers here too.
Fair enough 👍👍
Thats why hitting with no stakes involved and using that as your carry or total distance is dumb. Only the gamer swing matters.
Even with 3-4 mph less swing speed compared to indoor sessions, this driver doesn’t produce anything close to justifying a $600 price tag.
I always like any driver that helps with misses and keeps me no more than 5 yards off line. Oh, and over 300 carry!