2 Years on Air Suspension | Is it Still Worth It?
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It has been nearly two years since Dakota has installed Air Lift Performance on his modified Focus ST. In today’s video, he will go over why he purchased air suspension, the pros and cons and how it’s currently holding up after all this time Let us know your thoughts below in the comment section?!?!
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What about bags vs cups?
Coming from a minitruck with 8 valves and a manual switch box to the Air Lift 3P manifold is pretty impressive. My kit (for an HHR) is discontinued so my hunt to find one lasted 2 years.
Had air years ago on a 91 Civic sedan. I absolutely loved not having to go sideways to cross a speed bump. It even made the car a little quieter from road noise. Always loved the "How does he drive that?" look and then they see the car come up off the ground.
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Same here that's the question I get asked the most from folks who aren't in the scene. I would walk out to my car and someone would ask me how's it possible to drive it. Then I air it up and the expression on their faces...priceless.
I feel like installing air ride pretty much if installing coilovers and wiring subs had a baby
probably, but for me at least i wouldnt know where to put the pump or tank because of my subs lol
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@@haydenwiseman3056 In your spare tire well.
Back in the day I was straight coilover guy but now I'm old and running air suspension on my Hellcat and it's by far worth it. Between breaking necks in parking lots, being able to get into my steep driveway without scraping makes it a no brainer.
I would love to have air suspension
But coilovers is enough for me
BASITH PH I would love to say coilovers are enough for me but it’s never enough
- FBI coilovers would be enough for the cia why aren’t you ever happy fbi?
Running coilovers on my daily drive. Even with the right settings; it can get tiresome. The harsher ride and struggle with parking lot ramp at malls.
Whenever I add a new car; will definitely prefer air suspension on my daily drive and coilovers for my weekend ride.
Meor Hariz I’m used to suvs most of the time whenever I drive my fox body on coilovers it’s not fun it’s nice being able to eat speed bumps and never slow down into driveways
BASITH PH. The reason I hold you in higher regard than most static guys is because you chose static over air suspension without feeling the need to bash it.
Air is great for looks. Coils are best for performance. It's all about your use needs.
artsohc negative air is just as good for performance actually it was one of the first suspension use in racing super adjustable on the fly even mid race and if used and set up right better then coils
@@sapphire_gennylife718 While I understand what you are saying...the only racing sport in which air is heavily used is Nascar. It isn't utilized much in other racing sports, and other than to allow for noise lift when going into driveways...name a $100k+ performance car that has air suspension.
@@artsohc air is much more convenient for a daily as well
High performance cars like the Ford GT use air bags to lower the car in an instant
I run static on my 240sx and a air suspension on my chaser, my sx is so low your foot can't go under it, same with my chaser but the air suspension balances everything. On static you feel everything every bounce every rock picking up but it was still smooth, i prefer air rather than static. My opinion
The fresh prince of low-air!
Air all the way, being able to air up to get over things and not smash my car to bits. It's worth to me
Does it give you a smoother ride also?
Dammit. Thought I was dropping a lot of money spending $5k on bigger turbo and the supporting mods for that ... looks like I'm about to do the same with a 3P kit. Appreciate it, man.
I just got my kit. Spent a little over 5k, had to sell my whole shoe collection and my liver… jk but I’m super stoked about it! This guy made me pull the trigger. Hopefully will be installing in 3 weeks!
Honestly, if they were more reasonably priced, I could see investing into air. But at a 3k entry level price, thats... just a lot.
Catch a sale. That’s what I did.
@@uncleelroy6011 Yeaaah, but I'm a little late to that rn. I mean yeah I can afford to dump the cash and not think much of it, but still
You can get the majority of the system used (like the compressor, controller and sensors) for a third of the new price. Then the shocks are $1000/pair new. I put a full Airlift Performance kit in my ‘17 Fusion Sport for $2400. That’s only $800 more than a nice set of KW coil overs. Having the instant adjustability in ride height and firmness makes it totally worth it for a daily driver IMO.
@@blueridge8992 Honestly, still feels like a ton of money in comparison to what I get out of that system. That'd tip me into the 10 grand range sunken into the car as a whole.
I literally got my entire setup for 1,000 for my Jetta. Used bags and compressor, brand new 3p management and Ebay tank lol
100% worth it. Got the 3P also after I wide bodied my 350z. Best thing ever don’t to my car. Had it for a year, no problems at all.
A huge fan of your channel and to see one of my videos in this clip got me all excited. Thanks and keep up the great content!
I'm in love with your Focus ST. What a clean build.
Very informational as im considering bagging my car. Thank you for being honest and saying you have had a problem
I have a 2014 Maxima on airlift 3P
Ride is fantastic
Love the convenience of it
I have had it installed for about 2-3 years
And the only problem I have had was the pressure valve in the management went bad
Didn’t leave me stranded or anything
And airlift was fantastic
They warranted it and sent me a new management
And cause I was on a time crunch for a show
It was back In less than 3 days
For sure staying on air
Great video. I was the same guy until I got my 3p. I wouldn’t quite compare performance to my coils, but it definitely makes driving a lot less painful!
Thx for the video dude.makes me feel more confident as I’m bought to bag my srt8 Jeep on airtekk stage 2
Usually people that have never ran air have the most to say about it from what I've experienced. But, nonetheless, I love my 3P system for the Focus. It really was a straightforward install even though it was just myself. No issues so far!
2 years now is it worth it?
3 years now is it worth it?
Love the channel keep up the good work guys
Realy a video I needed, thanks
I had air back in 2007 ,then it wasn't every where and look awesome when you aired it out, but no everyone has it so now it's a everyday think.
Still looks sweet when bagged out
Ordered mine from you guys and it comes in today. 1 week to get it. Leaving work to start on this project when my air lift kit comes in!
Soo...what do yo think after year one?
I'm all set. Glad that they've worked for you. But... I'm the guy that's seen problems with air rides leaving people stranded. I'm going with KW V3 coilovers with aircup suspension. That way I can have the best of both worlds.
Love my bags been going on 3yrs and still good had a strut sleeve pop but made a call and got extra sleeve locks
Bags is the way to go. Im working on my two body dropped mini trucks rn then I will definitely be bagging my focus st ...... yours is sick bro gr8 job. Also ill be contacting yall for some shoes very soon
I’m currently running coilovers on my focus right now, i’ve wanted to make the switch to air for a little while now and this has made my decision final🙂
By a better car first
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I installed air ride on my ST as well! I like it also what do you leave your damping at tho?
Been running my ST on air since June of last year. One problem but AirLift swapped the manifold out for me free of charge and I was on my way.
Air Suspension🔥 I need in my life❤
Y'all cool af. Found fitment wanting to learn something new
I saw Dakota goofy face on the thumbnail and I knew I had to click it asap
I daily drive my s2000 and its on air from my experience from the get go its quite stiff for a daily,but time passes the air suspension are softer i Don't know if I'm used too or it softened over time.
Never been so early to a FI vid 🤣😆
"Beg your mom's car, beg your groceries."
Súper happy! Have an Acura A spec, Just got my 3p with airlift struts! Hopefully will be installing it in a month or so! Been wanting to run bags for a while, had to sell all my shoe collection to afford it 😭 but hey, my girl 🚘 is getting new shoes!
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My Mini has been on air ride for 2 years as well. Only problems I've had is my tank drain line burst randomly. I believe it was due to the material of the line as it was looked and felt different than the rest of the air line in the kit. I just replaced it with spare line left over from the install and haven't had a problem since.
Same here and and punctured air line
Is the air ride still holding up strong?
@@svendermen9271 yup, I've replaced the compressor once. Other than that, it's still good.
I wanted Air Suspension because i could not afford a 2018 Lexus LS that has it stock so i wanted my IS to have it lol
Running Airlift 3P on my 2018 Lexus IS300 F Sport RWD and i love everything about it daily it everyday about 1000Mi/Mo in DTLA and road trips at about 600Mi Round trip, Snow, Hard Roads, etc. Never had an issue and had it installed by a shop who works on SEMA and LA Auto Show cars so i know i was taken care of well.
Rides perfect and near stock, i like how i can air up for driveways and clear almost anything without destroying my bumper.
All of my friends drive on air, i have put on about 5K on mine with zero issues and have had a friend already put 45K on his 2018 Camry XSE on them; best investment i ever put on my car.
Your videos are selling me on the 3P.
Just hope Airlift does a kit for a 2010 Crown Majesta 😅
Hopefully nab a black friday deal this year or something
Once I went baggs I never looked back. I can adjust anytime I want, the ride is comfortable, and I can lay to the earth! I've never had bagged cars but i dont see it being any different than my bagged trucks.
What bag setup do you have? I’ve been looking to get air ride for a Lexus LS430 but I dont want to lose the comfort, so would you say riding on air is also good for daily driving?
@@mikelopez5214 bagging is good for daily. I drive my bagged chevys all over the place daily, even to my local motocross park/track. My baggs relates to trucks, I have a 2 link setup and a triple link. Cars on the other hand are 100 times easier, and can be installed within a weekend easily by yourself. AccuAir, Airlift Performance, Air Runner, D2 Air etc.. dont cheap out on your complete setup (not that it isnt cheap).
Kevin Bruening thanks for the advice, and yeah fitment industries has several different air ride systems to go with, I’ll look into all of them first
Finally bagging my car, was hesitant on canadian winters but pulled the trigger! pretty expensive over here with exchange rate and literally no local shops selling airride parts but should all be delivered within 3weeks
how is the air suspension going for you as a Canadian? am in Toronto thinking this idea? any recommendations for me?
Serious question... I drive a Honda Civic Si Sedan, FA5. I have a job where I have to haul like 500lbs of gear around, and my stock suspension is shot. If I go air bags, can they handle the extra weight (mostly in the trunk and back seat) and help me not destroy tires so fast? Are there Heavy Duty airbags? Is it true I can't use them in Canadian winters?
Thank you.
This might be odd compared to the other people here but i'm curious about air as a means of getting more ground clearance instead of lowering the vehicle.
Have to deal with some really bad roads where you sometimes have no choice but the creep through some deep potholes. Was planning to simply lift the vehicle but after thinking about it air would allow me to bring the vehicle back down to an optimal ride height for better handling.
Was curious if they make kits specifically for that or setting it up so that the lowest height would be factory specs would be fine? I'm completely new to this.
Currently saving my coins for an air suspension kit. there isn't even a kit out right now for my 2020 Mazda 3 so the wait should be worth it.
Thank you brother I been thinking of bagging my gti 2018 if I do it I wanna do it myself just don’t want to f anything up
Can you please let me know what those wheels on the top row, second from the left are? Thank you!
How is air in winter? Does it last thought the snow and salt or do you mainly park it flr winter
how does the car corner? can u still do touge runs with the air suspension?
I was short time so i installed my 3H as a 3P and ran the cables for the sensors just need a lift and free time to install the sensors you can spend as much time installing just the sensors as you do installing everything else (tank, manifold, air line's, bags)
I have installed air ride about 20 times now my first time was when i was 17 on my body dropped S10 on a custom frame i built with a proper 4 link and 1:1.6 ratio bag setup with easy street bags and 3/4" valves back then air and hydraulics are not far apart in complexity All in one managment systems like the v2,3S,P,H, enzo, and so on, make air almost on par with coil overs for installation difficulty. If you can install an Amp, Sub and swap in coil overs you Can install air ride with little to no trouble nowdays.. but when running lines protect them I ran 1/4in copper nickel brake line under the car and used proper leader lines near the pivot points to reduce stress on the lines from movement i honestly believe that your going to build a hardline trunk why Not hardline it where the lines are at risk ? My rear bags just use a braided leader to a bulkhead drilled into the spair tire well hard lines run beside the fuel lines to the front and are flared to bulkheads in the front wheel wells a 90deg street elbow points down and the front bag attaches with a 18in leader line the line has black wireloom zip tied over it for extra protection from whipping around from bumps. I have done the last 14 installs this way never had a leak bad line at any point in the system my cuz popped a bag but he had wheels with bad offsets and they rubbed the bag..
I've been looking getting air lift for my focus, but I still have a lot questions on the fitment
Love this guy
Love the videos.. need more driver to driver ...
Which air suspension should i buy for an old car like w123 or w124 Merc and how to work out if it will fit ?
i’m twitching looking at the wheels all being different sizes in the background
My gy6 haves air ride in it and I love it 🙀
So do u set your alignment to your ride height
bags here, bags there, bags everywhere!
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Thanks bro
This air ride is child's play lol. You guys should see the air ride on my 2018 Kenworth T680.
Jk planning on Air Lift for my car when I get around to it
What wheels are the rotational bronze to your left??
Does it affect performance?
do you think it is good to use even winter?
I really be out here with a car that came with air suspension from the factory (Citroën C4grand picasso and admittedly only on the back). I also got the dealership only diagnostic system so I can set the heights to whatever I want
Is there any drilling required for the air lines?
Coilovers with air cups. Best all-around performance, reliability and cost.
Scott Laird how much then stuffs cost? And how it all work? I’ve only seen them once lol
@@joeyhelf406 Depends. You can get a cup kit for about $700 that is just the front. Add the rear is probably another $300-400. You can't really drive with them engaged as they cause the springs to load. They are basically just a cup that can inflate that sits on the coil. When it is engaged, it will raise the strut about 2-3 inches. The kits come with a compressor and are just like wiring a bag kit. Typically, the airbag will take the place of the coil and cup in a full air-ride system. I like this setup because its easy to build gradually so if coilovers are enough for you but you still want to be a little lower and have maneuverability, installing cups wouldn't take very long or cost much. A full bag kit pretty much has to be done all at once and requires a bit more playing with to get right.
Scott Laird have you got a website link
@@everpolo6n295 Just google air cups coilover kits, a few companies make them. I believe Stance Air Cups are most commonly used.
Agreed, this is what I have, also can roll low with coils and have to set the car up properly not just air out when parked. I have hybrid air on mine which lifts on front 100mm as it is a full bag so no need for rear cups.
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what are the wheels to the bottom left gold ones
Love this guy. Hilarious. Worth hinting about for bags….giving it serious thought. Serious…..thought.
Bags are for groceries lmao jk coil overs and front bumper replacement good for me for now 🐢🐢🐢👍👍🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂
I would love to know if with air suspension you can get soft damping with fast rebound and enough travel for rough canyon roads, and on track get as stiff as coilovers.
Yes to your track question. They work amazing on track! Honestly it’s amazing.
Been wanting to go on bags with a 17 mustang with about 820 hp to the crank with the whipple supercharger. What do you think of going on bags with that power? Would it hold up?
10ton dump trucks are on air. 1000ft tq semis run air. Yes 820 hp is fine
I need coil overs or air ride for my 2012 Camry SE. badddd. Waiting on turbo and really want to install a air ride set up but can’t find any no where PLS HELP!!!
You said preset for airing out? Is that 0psi in all bags? Going to install mine and feeling like I’m gonna have a issue being able to do that with rubbing
Psi on "airing out" can vary with how your wheels fit. Some sizing may still require a bit of air to not damage wheels or fenders if you don't tuck or have the perfect tire size to not buckle your fenders
Do you guys have an install video for the height sensors?
We are looking at doing this possibly with Alex's F430
What’s max height on air suspension I’m looking at airtekk stage 3 but idk cuz we have bad winter here nd I drive far away places if anyone knows max height if it’s stock height or higher then stock height ? Any info will be helpful
Regular VS Air VS Hydraulic. (As I understood, hydro is basically as air, only moves faster ? But needs more attention ? )
Air for a track car? I want my car to sit low but I wanna go track with slicks. Can the bags and sensors keep up and handle a day at the track
I have a 05 Mercedes cl 55. Has the stock abc suspension. It rides great and incredibly smooth but at 80k it starts breaking and cost like 10k to repair. I’m considering removing abc and getting airbags customly installed. Do you guys think airbags would make it ride rougher or smoother?. It’s a heavy car like 4,300 pounds.
bro am just thinking planning on buying an cl 55 or an sl 65/55 amg between 03 - 05 cl/sl amg, how is it running for you bro now? give me tips shouts out from toronto :)
what tire and wheel size would u guys recommend if im getting an air rlift suspension?
Depends entirely on your vehicle! Shoot us a DM on IG or Facebook and we'd be happy to help!
Will they be bad if you have bad winters
Is it convinient to bag my 2014 Honda Civic SI?
How is it in cold weather??? In the snow??
Sick ride bro! What year & model?
2014 Focus ST!
Anything we should keep in the car incase we run into air suspension issues?
Because you said 40 psi to lift the front I had to chuckle.... because you're lifting a little baby motor. A few years ago I sold my '66 El Camino that had a 468 ci BBC that made 621 HP & 570 lb/ft and my Air-Lift 2600 hopper bags (w/ billet plates) took 65 just to roll, 70 psi to drive (75-80 was optimal). The Slam Specialties in the rear were good at 20 psi. Had 3 Viair 280s, a 12 gallon tank w/ pressure set at 200 (but the switch let it go up to 215 psi and I left it be), w/ 5/8" airline to the SMC 1/2" valves and 1/2" line to the bags. It would pop all four wheels off the ground if I held the switch for more than a flick.. When I had a 327 in the car it would lift the front end a few inches off the ground.
Also cut up a '95 Sliverado X-Cab and fabricated and welded in a c-notch and 4-link that laid frame. You could drive it at 70/20 psi on smooth roads, but it rode the best at 8o psi front and 25 psi rear. I only had 3/8" line and 150 psi in the truck so it was a lot more controllable. Anytime in a curve, if it was a right curve you could lift the left rear bag and totally blast the corner. Left curve; lift the rear rear bag. For a truck it could corner like crazy.
I wish I kept them both......
I have air on my 2012 camaro ss. I love it I wouldnt trade it for anything
What I really want to know, which no one has really been able to a real answer on..... If you set the bags to factory ride height, is the ride better or worse than factory?
Can they be install is a ford ranger 96 ?
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You should make a video on draining your tank
For me there is only two huge issues about bags. 1 I can’t install it myself because of my shitty disabled hands. 2 the price for the finished product . As be needing to pay someone to do it, just adds to the overall cost of getting air.. Getting lowering springs installed or new coils is 1/3 of the price of a air system .. So it’s pretty much a up hill race - but I’ll get there somehow, someday 😅👌🏼
I recently brought a infiniti with air life 3p suspension on it. I ger nervous every time i drive it because I'm worried a bag fails etc. I don't think i will be keeping the car for long due to this i rather have a piece of mind
Is this a good setup or will it not work?
Front: 225/45/17
17x8 +30mm 5x114.3
Rear: 255/40/17
17x9 +5mm 5x114.3
(My Honda S2000 is lowered 1 inch and the fenders are not rolled)
Should be okay
Can you drive on a low/slammed preset (if the road is not rough) or do you have to drive on stock height?
You can drive it on any pressure setting you want, just so long as your vehicle can physically move forward. What I mean is that if I have it aired out completely... My ST is physically resting on the ground and will not move at all. If I set it to Preset Low, I can drive no problem. Typically 40/32 is what I run mine on the low setting.
You can drive on what ever setting you want but if you going to drive to the point of dragging ( i have drag blocks in the rear) you might want to go +4~+6 on the dampers it will ride stiff but helps a bit with bottoming out. For reference my car is a 2016 focus st option labs SEMA car hard to miss in the gallery.
As someone mentioned you can drive at whatever height you desire. When I go to events where you park in grass I air up to 80f/80r to avoid hitting the ground when my car goes into dips in the grass. Highways I’m at 55/50 and urban roads I’ll be at 45/40. When I wanna look real low I’ll drive at like 25/22 where the lips of my wheels are pretty close to my fenders so if I hit a big bump it would probably hit, so I use it for when driving very slow in show areas.
I want to bag my car but I will do it next year because it’s expensive plus I’m working on some performance mods for the track
Do a video on F30s pleaseeeeeee
"Bake your car Bake your daily"
-Dakotas 2020
Ima slam my daily now
I personally am going to go with coils since I just do not have the funds for anything like air and when I get a car in around a year, I am just gonna wanna put some suspention on it and I know I am not going to want to save more for air.
You can get universal air bags that convert most common coilover suspension to air bags. Look up Universal Air. They can sort out adaptor brackets. Im currently saving for BC's and in the future convert them to bag on coil set-up. Easy to reverse too.
Thanks for the info, but I don’t really care about lowering the car I care about ride comfort, for an SUV, make a video on comfort please.
Great video. Quick question. Can you track or autocross on bags or is it show only?
You can track it!
Fitment Industries Whoa... thanks for the info. I had no idea bags could be performance oriented.
Google Cody Miles STi or Todd Fullford Hellcat. You can thank me later.
Jim MorePSI ha! Thanks. I finally got around to looking them up and wow! May have to take a look at air.