Coming from a minitruck with 8 valves and a manual switch box to the Air Lift 3P manifold is pretty impressive. My kit (for an HHR) is discontinued so my hunt to find one lasted 2 years.
Had air years ago on a 91 Civic sedan. I absolutely loved not having to go sideways to cross a speed bump. It even made the car a little quieter from road noise. Always loved the "How does he drive that?" look and then they see the car come up off the ground.
Same here that's the question I get asked the most from folks who aren't in the scene. I would walk out to my car and someone would ask me how's it possible to drive it. Then I air it up and the expression on their faces...priceless.
TRUUUUSSSST! LOL you need to LOWER THAT CAR! its riding so high it NEEDS TO BE LOWERED HONESTLY its sooooo high up there theirs about a good 4 inchs of wheel gap you should get some air suspension honestly, and if you go with with air you should go with AMERICAN MADE not China ksport d2 broadway yellow tein cusco airrex airride are ALL MADE IN CHINA IN THE SAME WAREHOUSE their all garbage the only Real Performance forward Driftable and Show Performance Suspension in the world today is PRAZIS , Straight up made by Universalair and sold exclusively by 213RACING LosAngeles , its real PRAZIS Quality Made in America and used by professionals , because everything else is just garbage ! FOR DRIFTABLE YET STANCEABLE REAL QUALITY FULLY ADJUSTABLE PERFORMANCE MADE IN AMERICA HIGHEST QUALITY IN THE WORLD SUSPENSION There’s only one, DRIFTING ON , PRAZIS Ⓡ AIR SUSPENSION USA AVAILABLE ONLY FROM 213 RACING LA “ NOTHING FROM TAIWAN OR CHINA “ OUR SUSPENSION IS THE BEST! WE ALSO HELPED DEVELOP ACCUAIR! AND CARRY AND ARE Authorized distributors for: ACCUAIR AIRLIFT PERFORMANCE UNIVERSAL AIR AVS EVOLVE KW SUSPENSION ST SUSPENSIONS ZOMBIE PROJECT ROTIFORM STANCE MAFIA LIT STANCE AIR SPENCER E36R DRIFT ACTIVE AUTOWERKE ITEM-B BBS CONDOR SPEED SHOP AIRFORCE SUSPENSION V.I.P.KUSH BRAND LOST SURF BOARDS And more,.. AND We’re are NOT SOME trucking kooks, from the boonies, that worship the FRUITY AND FURIOUS, lol pretending to be, L.A. Street racers, NAAAAH WE ACTUALLY ARE L.A. STREET RACERS AND WE ARE LOCATED IN LITTLE TOKYO DTLA! Hit us up! Toll Free (866)213RACING VISIT THE NEW ONLINE SHOP WWW.213RACING.COM ON THE GRAM @213RACINGLA
Back in the day I was straight coilover guy but now I'm old and running air suspension on my Hellcat and it's by far worth it. Between breaking necks in parking lots, being able to get into my steep driveway without scraping makes it a no brainer.
Running coilovers on my daily drive. Even with the right settings; it can get tiresome. The harsher ride and struggle with parking lot ramp at malls. Whenever I add a new car; will definitely prefer air suspension on my daily drive and coilovers for my weekend ride.
Meor Hariz I’m used to suvs most of the time whenever I drive my fox body on coilovers it’s not fun it’s nice being able to eat speed bumps and never slow down into driveways
BASITH PH. The reason I hold you in higher regard than most static guys is because you chose static over air suspension without feeling the need to bash it.
artsohc negative air is just as good for performance actually it was one of the first suspension use in racing super adjustable on the fly even mid race and if used and set up right better then coils
@@sapphire_gennylife718 While I understand what you are saying...the only racing sport in which air is heavily used is Nascar. It isn't utilized much in other racing sports, and other than to allow for noise lift when going into driveways...name a $100k+ performance car that has air suspension.
I run static on my 240sx and a air suspension on my chaser, my sx is so low your foot can't go under it, same with my chaser but the air suspension balances everything. On static you feel everything every bounce every rock picking up but it was still smooth, i prefer air rather than static. My opinion
You can get the majority of the system used (like the compressor, controller and sensors) for a third of the new price. Then the shocks are $1000/pair new. I put a full Airlift Performance kit in my ‘17 Fusion Sport for $2400. That’s only $800 more than a nice set of KW coil overs. Having the instant adjustability in ride height and firmness makes it totally worth it for a daily driver IMO.
@@blueridge8992 Honestly, still feels like a ton of money in comparison to what I get out of that system. That'd tip me into the 10 grand range sunken into the car as a whole.
Dammit. Thought I was dropping a lot of money spending $5k on bigger turbo and the supporting mods for that ... looks like I'm about to do the same with a 3P kit. Appreciate it, man.
I just got my kit. Spent a little over 5k, had to sell my whole shoe collection and my liver… jk but I’m super stoked about it! This guy made me pull the trigger. Hopefully will be installing in 3 weeks!
Usually people that have never ran air have the most to say about it from what I've experienced. But, nonetheless, I love my 3P system for the Focus. It really was a straightforward install even though it was just myself. No issues so far!
I have a 2014 Maxima on airlift 3P Ride is fantastic Love the convenience of it I have had it installed for about 2-3 years And the only problem I have had was the pressure valve in the management went bad Didn’t leave me stranded or anything And airlift was fantastic They warranted it and sent me a new management And cause I was on a time crunch for a show It was back In less than 3 days For sure staying on air
Once I went baggs I never looked back. I can adjust anytime I want, the ride is comfortable, and I can lay to the earth! I've never had bagged cars but i dont see it being any different than my bagged trucks.
What bag setup do you have? I’ve been looking to get air ride for a Lexus LS430 but I dont want to lose the comfort, so would you say riding on air is also good for daily driving?
@@mikelopez5214 bagging is good for daily. I drive my bagged chevys all over the place daily, even to my local motocross park/track. My baggs relates to trucks, I have a 2 link setup and a triple link. Cars on the other hand are 100 times easier, and can be installed within a weekend easily by yourself. AccuAir, Airlift Performance, Air Runner, D2 Air etc.. dont cheap out on your complete setup (not that it isnt cheap).
I'm all set. Glad that they've worked for you. But... I'm the guy that's seen problems with air rides leaving people stranded. I'm going with KW V3 coilovers with aircup suspension. That way I can have the best of both worlds.
I had air back in 2007 ,then it wasn't every where and look awesome when you aired it out, but no everyone has it so now it's a everyday think. Still looks sweet when bagged out
I wanted Air Suspension because i could not afford a 2018 Lexus LS that has it stock so i wanted my IS to have it lol Running Airlift 3P on my 2018 Lexus IS300 F Sport RWD and i love everything about it daily it everyday about 1000Mi/Mo in DTLA and road trips at about 600Mi Round trip, Snow, Hard Roads, etc. Never had an issue and had it installed by a shop who works on SEMA and LA Auto Show cars so i know i was taken care of well. Rides perfect and near stock, i like how i can air up for driveways and clear almost anything without destroying my bumper. All of my friends drive on air, i have put on about 5K on mine with zero issues and have had a friend already put 45K on his 2018 Camry XSE on them; best investment i ever put on my car.
My Mini has been on air ride for 2 years as well. Only problems I've had is my tank drain line burst randomly. I believe it was due to the material of the line as it was looked and felt different than the rest of the air line in the kit. I just replaced it with spare line left over from the install and haven't had a problem since.
I’m currently running coilovers on my focus right now, i’ve wanted to make the switch to air for a little while now and this has made my decision final🙂
@@joeyhelf406 Depends. You can get a cup kit for about $700 that is just the front. Add the rear is probably another $300-400. You can't really drive with them engaged as they cause the springs to load. They are basically just a cup that can inflate that sits on the coil. When it is engaged, it will raise the strut about 2-3 inches. The kits come with a compressor and are just like wiring a bag kit. Typically, the airbag will take the place of the coil and cup in a full air-ride system. I like this setup because its easy to build gradually so if coilovers are enough for you but you still want to be a little lower and have maneuverability, installing cups wouldn't take very long or cost much. A full bag kit pretty much has to be done all at once and requires a bit more playing with to get right.
Agreed, this is what I have, also can roll low with coils and have to set the car up properly not just air out when parked. I have hybrid air on mine which lifts on front 100mm as it is a full bag so no need for rear cups.
Is this a good setup or will it not work? Front: 225/45/17 17x8 +30mm 5x114.3 Rear: 255/40/17 17x9 +5mm 5x114.3 (My Honda S2000 is lowered 1 inch and the fenders are not rolled)
I daily drive my s2000 and its on air from my experience from the get go its quite stiff for a daily,but time passes the air suspension are softer i Don't know if I'm used too or it softened over time.
Great video. I was the same guy until I got my 3p. I wouldn’t quite compare performance to my coils, but it definitely makes driving a lot less painful!
I was short time so i installed my 3H as a 3P and ran the cables for the sensors just need a lift and free time to install the sensors you can spend as much time installing just the sensors as you do installing everything else (tank, manifold, air line's, bags)
I have installed air ride about 20 times now my first time was when i was 17 on my body dropped S10 on a custom frame i built with a proper 4 link and 1:1.6 ratio bag setup with easy street bags and 3/4" valves back then air and hydraulics are not far apart in complexity All in one managment systems like the v2,3S,P,H, enzo, and so on, make air almost on par with coil overs for installation difficulty. If you can install an Amp, Sub and swap in coil overs you Can install air ride with little to no trouble nowdays.. but when running lines protect them I ran 1/4in copper nickel brake line under the car and used proper leader lines near the pivot points to reduce stress on the lines from movement i honestly believe that your going to build a hardline trunk why Not hardline it where the lines are at risk ? My rear bags just use a braided leader to a bulkhead drilled into the spair tire well hard lines run beside the fuel lines to the front and are flared to bulkheads in the front wheel wells a 90deg street elbow points down and the front bag attaches with a 18in leader line the line has black wireloom zip tied over it for extra protection from whipping around from bumps. I have done the last 14 installs this way never had a leak bad line at any point in the system my cuz popped a bag but he had wheels with bad offsets and they rubbed the bag..
What about tire wear tho ? Serious question. Wouldnt changing your ride height change the angles of your alignment? And have you had any uneven or premature wear ?
You can drive it on any pressure setting you want, just so long as your vehicle can physically move forward. What I mean is that if I have it aired out completely... My ST is physically resting on the ground and will not move at all. If I set it to Preset Low, I can drive no problem. Typically 40/32 is what I run mine on the low setting.
You can drive on what ever setting you want but if you going to drive to the point of dragging ( i have drag blocks in the rear) you might want to go +4~+6 on the dampers it will ride stiff but helps a bit with bottoming out. For reference my car is a 2016 focus st option labs SEMA car hard to miss in the gallery.
As someone mentioned you can drive at whatever height you desire. When I go to events where you park in grass I air up to 80f/80r to avoid hitting the ground when my car goes into dips in the grass. Highways I’m at 55/50 and urban roads I’ll be at 45/40. When I wanna look real low I’ll drive at like 25/22 where the lips of my wheels are pretty close to my fenders so if I hit a big bump it would probably hit, so I use it for when driving very slow in show areas.
I recently brought a infiniti with air life 3p suspension on it. I ger nervous every time i drive it because I'm worried a bag fails etc. I don't think i will be keeping the car for long due to this i rather have a piece of mind
Finally bagging my car, was hesitant on canadian winters but pulled the trigger! pretty expensive over here with exchange rate and literally no local shops selling airride parts but should all be delivered within 3weeks
Serious question... I drive a Honda Civic Si Sedan, FA5. I have a job where I have to haul like 500lbs of gear around, and my stock suspension is shot. If I go air bags, can they handle the extra weight (mostly in the trunk and back seat) and help me not destroy tires so fast? Are there Heavy Duty airbags? Is it true I can't use them in Canadian winters? Thank you.
3 years on air and never had a line rupture. I routed mine through the interior and made sure they would not run against anything to cause them to have a weak point. A lot of cars need to have the strut towers shaved down in certain areas to provide clearance for bags too so if you didn’t do that it would give reason for a bag to pop.
Harshith Sadhana I would still pick air because it definitely showed its value thru out the 3 years I have had it.. if you know what could happen and your ok with it and you carry a few extra tools and air lines you should be fine and will have a blast with air.. the bag was definitely a weird mister but it was covered under warranty
This might be odd compared to the other people here but i'm curious about air as a means of getting more ground clearance instead of lowering the vehicle. Have to deal with some really bad roads where you sometimes have no choice but the creep through some deep potholes. Was planning to simply lift the vehicle but after thinking about it air would allow me to bring the vehicle back down to an optimal ride height for better handling. Was curious if they make kits specifically for that or setting it up so that the lowest height would be factory specs would be fine? I'm completely new to this.
You said preset for airing out? Is that 0psi in all bags? Going to install mine and feeling like I’m gonna have a issue being able to do that with rubbing
Psi on "airing out" can vary with how your wheels fit. Some sizing may still require a bit of air to not damage wheels or fenders if you don't tuck or have the perfect tire size to not buckle your fenders
This air ride is child's play lol. You guys should see the air ride on my 2018 Kenworth T680. Jk planning on Air Lift for my car when I get around to it
What I really want to know, which no one has really been able to a real answer on..... If you set the bags to factory ride height, is the ride better or worse than factory?
Súper happy! Have an Acura A spec, Just got my 3p with airlift struts! Hopefully will be installing it in a month or so! Been wanting to run bags for a while, had to sell all my shoe collection to afford it 😭 but hey, my girl 🚘 is getting new shoes!
I would love to know if with air suspension you can get soft damping with fast rebound and enough travel for rough canyon roads, and on track get as stiff as coilovers.
Bags is the way to go. Im working on my two body dropped mini trucks rn then I will definitely be bagging my focus st ...... yours is sick bro gr8 job. Also ill be contacting yall for some shoes very soon
I need coil overs or air ride for my 2012 Camry SE. badddd. Waiting on turbo and really want to install a air ride set up but can’t find any no where PLS HELP!!!
I have a 05 Mercedes cl 55. Has the stock abc suspension. It rides great and incredibly smooth but at 80k it starts breaking and cost like 10k to repair. I’m considering removing abc and getting airbags customly installed. Do you guys think airbags would make it ride rougher or smoother?. It’s a heavy car like 4,300 pounds.
bro am just thinking planning on buying an cl 55 or an sl 65/55 amg between 03 - 05 cl/sl amg, how is it running for you bro now? give me tips shouts out from toronto :)
I personally am going to go with coils since I just do not have the funds for anything like air and when I get a car in around a year, I am just gonna wanna put some suspention on it and I know I am not going to want to save more for air.
You can get universal air bags that convert most common coilover suspension to air bags. Look up Universal Air. They can sort out adaptor brackets. Im currently saving for BC's and in the future convert them to bag on coil set-up. Easy to reverse too.
I'm new in the car community and don't know too much about cars... but I'm planning on a budget on mods I would install onto my "future frs", I already searched up coilovers, wheels, tires, and air intake (avo turbo kit is too expensive). However, I cannot find any aero kit for sale. Where do I look for that? Edit: My first project car
@@FitmentIndustries oooh great!!!! 😃😃😃 thank you so much! I'm looking for widebody kits (especially the v3 rocket bunny), I'll for sure check that out! I need to get everything together before heading off to college!
I really be out here with a car that came with air suspension from the factory (Citroën C4grand picasso and admittedly only on the back). I also got the dealership only diagnostic system so I can set the heights to whatever I want
@@FitmentIndustries there are a couple of companies that do them but Australia just doesn't have population size to have more companies making higher production levels to lower the cost. I watch a bunch of TH-cam car shows and the price you guys get parts and engines for is so cheap compared to here. Ain't no $500 junk yard LS motors here. If you can find a barely running LS1 they are starting at like 4g
What’s max height on air suspension I’m looking at airtekk stage 3 but idk cuz we have bad winter here nd I drive far away places if anyone knows max height if it’s stock height or higher then stock height ? Any info will be helpful
I never installed any suspension till I got my air suspension honestly it’s not that hard it’s better if you install it on your own so you get to know more about it how it works if you just pay you won’t really know much lol
Trying to get my dad to buy this setup but he's so hard headed and glued to that crappy brand gabriel shocks which you have to manually air it up instead of this system where you can sit in the car and air it up.
Atm my '03 WRX blobeye uses TEIN SS coilovers, I really do like coilovers but they cant be adjusted instantly to get up driveways. I have my lowering setting looking nice but usable, I plan on getting an FD in the near future and I want to run low. I hate scraping, and in Australia, your car cant be lower then a coke can, Static low boys here are either scrapping or getting raped by police. I'm interested in how airbags handle compared to coil-overs. Will bags support high-speed driving?
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What about bags vs cups?
Coming from a minitruck with 8 valves and a manual switch box to the Air Lift 3P manifold is pretty impressive. My kit (for an HHR) is discontinued so my hunt to find one lasted 2 years.
Had air years ago on a 91 Civic sedan. I absolutely loved not having to go sideways to cross a speed bump. It even made the car a little quieter from road noise. Always loved the "How does he drive that?" look and then they see the car come up off the ground.
Priceless
Same here that's the question I get asked the most from folks who aren't in the scene. I would walk out to my car and someone would ask me how's it possible to drive it. Then I air it up and the expression on their faces...priceless.
I feel like installing air ride pretty much if installing coilovers and wiring subs had a baby
probably, but for me at least i wouldnt know where to put the pump or tank because of my subs lol
this post gave me a headache
You're not wrong tbh
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Back in the day I was straight coilover guy but now I'm old and running air suspension on my Hellcat and it's by far worth it. Between breaking necks in parking lots, being able to get into my steep driveway without scraping makes it a no brainer.
I would love to have air suspension
But coilovers is enough for me
BASITH PH I would love to say coilovers are enough for me but it’s never enough
- FBI coilovers would be enough for the cia why aren’t you ever happy fbi?
Running coilovers on my daily drive. Even with the right settings; it can get tiresome. The harsher ride and struggle with parking lot ramp at malls.
Whenever I add a new car; will definitely prefer air suspension on my daily drive and coilovers for my weekend ride.
Meor Hariz I’m used to suvs most of the time whenever I drive my fox body on coilovers it’s not fun it’s nice being able to eat speed bumps and never slow down into driveways
BASITH PH. The reason I hold you in higher regard than most static guys is because you chose static over air suspension without feeling the need to bash it.
Air is great for looks. Coils are best for performance. It's all about your use needs.
artsohc negative air is just as good for performance actually it was one of the first suspension use in racing super adjustable on the fly even mid race and if used and set up right better then coils
@@sapphire_gennylife718 While I understand what you are saying...the only racing sport in which air is heavily used is Nascar. It isn't utilized much in other racing sports, and other than to allow for noise lift when going into driveways...name a $100k+ performance car that has air suspension.
@@artsohc air is much more convenient for a daily as well
High performance cars like the Ford GT use air bags to lower the car in an instant
I run static on my 240sx and a air suspension on my chaser, my sx is so low your foot can't go under it, same with my chaser but the air suspension balances everything. On static you feel everything every bounce every rock picking up but it was still smooth, i prefer air rather than static. My opinion
The fresh prince of low-air!
Air all the way, being able to air up to get over things and not smash my car to bits. It's worth to me
Does it give you a smoother ride also?
Honestly, if they were more reasonably priced, I could see investing into air. But at a 3k entry level price, thats... just a lot.
Catch a sale. That’s what I did.
@@uncleelroy6011 Yeaaah, but I'm a little late to that rn. I mean yeah I can afford to dump the cash and not think much of it, but still
You can get the majority of the system used (like the compressor, controller and sensors) for a third of the new price. Then the shocks are $1000/pair new. I put a full Airlift Performance kit in my ‘17 Fusion Sport for $2400. That’s only $800 more than a nice set of KW coil overs. Having the instant adjustability in ride height and firmness makes it totally worth it for a daily driver IMO.
@@blueridge8992 Honestly, still feels like a ton of money in comparison to what I get out of that system. That'd tip me into the 10 grand range sunken into the car as a whole.
I literally got my entire setup for 1,000 for my Jetta. Used bags and compressor, brand new 3p management and Ebay tank lol
Dammit. Thought I was dropping a lot of money spending $5k on bigger turbo and the supporting mods for that ... looks like I'm about to do the same with a 3P kit. Appreciate it, man.
I just got my kit. Spent a little over 5k, had to sell my whole shoe collection and my liver… jk but I’m super stoked about it! This guy made me pull the trigger. Hopefully will be installing in 3 weeks!
100% worth it. Got the 3P also after I wide bodied my 350z. Best thing ever don’t to my car. Had it for a year, no problems at all.
Usually people that have never ran air have the most to say about it from what I've experienced. But, nonetheless, I love my 3P system for the Focus. It really was a straightforward install even though it was just myself. No issues so far!
2 years now is it worth it?
3 years now is it worth it?
I have a 2014 Maxima on airlift 3P
Ride is fantastic
Love the convenience of it
I have had it installed for about 2-3 years
And the only problem I have had was the pressure valve in the management went bad
Didn’t leave me stranded or anything
And airlift was fantastic
They warranted it and sent me a new management
And cause I was on a time crunch for a show
It was back In less than 3 days
For sure staying on air
Once I went baggs I never looked back. I can adjust anytime I want, the ride is comfortable, and I can lay to the earth! I've never had bagged cars but i dont see it being any different than my bagged trucks.
What bag setup do you have? I’ve been looking to get air ride for a Lexus LS430 but I dont want to lose the comfort, so would you say riding on air is also good for daily driving?
@@mikelopez5214 bagging is good for daily. I drive my bagged chevys all over the place daily, even to my local motocross park/track. My baggs relates to trucks, I have a 2 link setup and a triple link. Cars on the other hand are 100 times easier, and can be installed within a weekend easily by yourself. AccuAir, Airlift Performance, Air Runner, D2 Air etc.. dont cheap out on your complete setup (not that it isnt cheap).
Kevin Bruening thanks for the advice, and yeah fitment industries has several different air ride systems to go with, I’ll look into all of them first
I'm all set. Glad that they've worked for you. But... I'm the guy that's seen problems with air rides leaving people stranded. I'm going with KW V3 coilovers with aircup suspension. That way I can have the best of both worlds.
Ordered mine from you guys and it comes in today. 1 week to get it. Leaving work to start on this project when my air lift kit comes in!
Soo...what do yo think after year one?
I'm in love with your Focus ST. What a clean build.
I had air back in 2007 ,then it wasn't every where and look awesome when you aired it out, but no everyone has it so now it's a everyday think.
Still looks sweet when bagged out
I saw Dakota goofy face on the thumbnail and I knew I had to click it asap
I wanted Air Suspension because i could not afford a 2018 Lexus LS that has it stock so i wanted my IS to have it lol
Running Airlift 3P on my 2018 Lexus IS300 F Sport RWD and i love everything about it daily it everyday about 1000Mi/Mo in DTLA and road trips at about 600Mi Round trip, Snow, Hard Roads, etc. Never had an issue and had it installed by a shop who works on SEMA and LA Auto Show cars so i know i was taken care of well.
Rides perfect and near stock, i like how i can air up for driveways and clear almost anything without destroying my bumper.
All of my friends drive on air, i have put on about 5K on mine with zero issues and have had a friend already put 45K on his 2018 Camry XSE on them; best investment i ever put on my car.
A huge fan of your channel and to see one of my videos in this clip got me all excited. Thanks and keep up the great content!
Love my bags been going on 3yrs and still good had a strut sleeve pop but made a call and got extra sleeve locks
My Mini has been on air ride for 2 years as well. Only problems I've had is my tank drain line burst randomly. I believe it was due to the material of the line as it was looked and felt different than the rest of the air line in the kit. I just replaced it with spare line left over from the install and haven't had a problem since.
Same here and and punctured air line
Is the air ride still holding up strong?
@@svendermen9271 yup, I've replaced the compressor once. Other than that, it's still good.
I’m currently running coilovers on my focus right now, i’ve wanted to make the switch to air for a little while now and this has made my decision final🙂
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Coilovers with air cups. Best all-around performance, reliability and cost.
Scott Laird how much then stuffs cost? And how it all work? I’ve only seen them once lol
@@joeyhelf406 Depends. You can get a cup kit for about $700 that is just the front. Add the rear is probably another $300-400. You can't really drive with them engaged as they cause the springs to load. They are basically just a cup that can inflate that sits on the coil. When it is engaged, it will raise the strut about 2-3 inches. The kits come with a compressor and are just like wiring a bag kit. Typically, the airbag will take the place of the coil and cup in a full air-ride system. I like this setup because its easy to build gradually so if coilovers are enough for you but you still want to be a little lower and have maneuverability, installing cups wouldn't take very long or cost much. A full bag kit pretty much has to be done all at once and requires a bit more playing with to get right.
Scott Laird have you got a website link
@@everpolo6n295 Just google air cups coilover kits, a few companies make them. I believe Stance Air Cups are most commonly used.
Agreed, this is what I have, also can roll low with coils and have to set the car up properly not just air out when parked. I have hybrid air on mine which lifts on front 100mm as it is a full bag so no need for rear cups.
"Beg your mom's car, beg your groceries."
Is this a good setup or will it not work?
Front: 225/45/17
17x8 +30mm 5x114.3
Rear: 255/40/17
17x9 +5mm 5x114.3
(My Honda S2000 is lowered 1 inch and the fenders are not rolled)
Should be okay
Very informational as im considering bagging my car. Thank you for being honest and saying you have had a problem
Been running my ST on air since June of last year. One problem but AirLift swapped the manifold out for me free of charge and I was on my way.
Air Suspension🔥 I need in my life❤
I daily drive my s2000 and its on air from my experience from the get go its quite stiff for a daily,but time passes the air suspension are softer i Don't know if I'm used too or it softened over time.
Great video. I was the same guy until I got my 3p. I wouldn’t quite compare performance to my coils, but it definitely makes driving a lot less painful!
I was short time so i installed my 3H as a 3P and ran the cables for the sensors just need a lift and free time to install the sensors you can spend as much time installing just the sensors as you do installing everything else (tank, manifold, air line's, bags)
I have installed air ride about 20 times now my first time was when i was 17 on my body dropped S10 on a custom frame i built with a proper 4 link and 1:1.6 ratio bag setup with easy street bags and 3/4" valves back then air and hydraulics are not far apart in complexity All in one managment systems like the v2,3S,P,H, enzo, and so on, make air almost on par with coil overs for installation difficulty. If you can install an Amp, Sub and swap in coil overs you Can install air ride with little to no trouble nowdays.. but when running lines protect them I ran 1/4in copper nickel brake line under the car and used proper leader lines near the pivot points to reduce stress on the lines from movement i honestly believe that your going to build a hardline trunk why Not hardline it where the lines are at risk ? My rear bags just use a braided leader to a bulkhead drilled into the spair tire well hard lines run beside the fuel lines to the front and are flared to bulkheads in the front wheel wells a 90deg street elbow points down and the front bag attaches with a 18in leader line the line has black wireloom zip tied over it for extra protection from whipping around from bumps. I have done the last 14 installs this way never had a leak bad line at any point in the system my cuz popped a bag but he had wheels with bad offsets and they rubbed the bag..
What about tire wear tho ? Serious question. Wouldnt changing your ride height change the angles of your alignment? And have you had any uneven or premature wear ?
Thats why you get an alingment at ride height.
Scott is correct, Ideally you get your alignment at your desired ride height and you'll be good!
@@FitmentIndustries but only 3H can do that...
Does aftermarket air suspension soften the ride quality or it makes it worse? How does it compare to coilovers for ride quality?
Way more comfortable than coilovers
Can you drive on a low/slammed preset (if the road is not rough) or do you have to drive on stock height?
You can drive it on any pressure setting you want, just so long as your vehicle can physically move forward. What I mean is that if I have it aired out completely... My ST is physically resting on the ground and will not move at all. If I set it to Preset Low, I can drive no problem. Typically 40/32 is what I run mine on the low setting.
You can drive on what ever setting you want but if you going to drive to the point of dragging ( i have drag blocks in the rear) you might want to go +4~+6 on the dampers it will ride stiff but helps a bit with bottoming out. For reference my car is a 2016 focus st option labs SEMA car hard to miss in the gallery.
As someone mentioned you can drive at whatever height you desire. When I go to events where you park in grass I air up to 80f/80r to avoid hitting the ground when my car goes into dips in the grass. Highways I’m at 55/50 and urban roads I’ll be at 45/40. When I wanna look real low I’ll drive at like 25/22 where the lips of my wheels are pretty close to my fenders so if I hit a big bump it would probably hit, so I use it for when driving very slow in show areas.
I recently brought a infiniti with air life 3p suspension on it. I ger nervous every time i drive it because I'm worried a bag fails etc. I don't think i will be keeping the car for long due to this i rather have a piece of mind
Finally bagging my car, was hesitant on canadian winters but pulled the trigger! pretty expensive over here with exchange rate and literally no local shops selling airride parts but should all be delivered within 3weeks
how is the air suspension going for you as a Canadian? am in Toronto thinking this idea? any recommendations for me?
Serious question... I drive a Honda Civic Si Sedan, FA5. I have a job where I have to haul like 500lbs of gear around, and my stock suspension is shot. If I go air bags, can they handle the extra weight (mostly in the trunk and back seat) and help me not destroy tires so fast? Are there Heavy Duty airbags? Is it true I can't use them in Canadian winters?
Thank you.
I had air.. I had lines rupture twice and a popped a bag over night on ride height
Is it worst to run on air.
3 years on air and never had a line rupture. I routed mine through the interior and made sure they would not run against anything to cause them to have a weak point. A lot of cars need to have the strut towers shaved down in certain areas to provide clearance for bags too so if you didn’t do that it would give reason for a bag to pop.
Harshith Sadhana I would still pick air because it definitely showed its value thru out the 3 years I have had it.. if you know what could happen and your ok with it and you carry a few extra tools and air lines you should be fine and will have a blast with air.. the bag was definitely a weird mister but it was covered under warranty
@@Maxam-Media is it expensive like10g
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This might be odd compared to the other people here but i'm curious about air as a means of getting more ground clearance instead of lowering the vehicle.
Have to deal with some really bad roads where you sometimes have no choice but the creep through some deep potholes. Was planning to simply lift the vehicle but after thinking about it air would allow me to bring the vehicle back down to an optimal ride height for better handling.
Was curious if they make kits specifically for that or setting it up so that the lowest height would be factory specs would be fine? I'm completely new to this.
Thank you brother I been thinking of bagging my gti 2018 if I do it I wanna do it myself just don’t want to f anything up
Realy a video I needed, thanks
You said preset for airing out? Is that 0psi in all bags? Going to install mine and feeling like I’m gonna have a issue being able to do that with rubbing
Psi on "airing out" can vary with how your wheels fit. Some sizing may still require a bit of air to not damage wheels or fenders if you don't tuck or have the perfect tire size to not buckle your fenders
How is air in winter? Does it last thought the snow and salt or do you mainly park it flr winter
This air ride is child's play lol. You guys should see the air ride on my 2018 Kenworth T680.
Jk planning on Air Lift for my car when I get around to it
Currently saving my coins for an air suspension kit. there isn't even a kit out right now for my 2020 Mazda 3 so the wait should be worth it.
Thx for the video dude.makes me feel more confident as I’m bought to bag my srt8 Jeep on airtekk stage 2
Regular VS Air VS Hydraulic. (As I understood, hydro is basically as air, only moves faster ? But needs more attention ? )
What I really want to know, which no one has really been able to a real answer on..... If you set the bags to factory ride height, is the ride better or worse than factory?
Súper happy! Have an Acura A spec, Just got my 3p with airlift struts! Hopefully will be installing it in a month or so! Been wanting to run bags for a while, had to sell all my shoe collection to afford it 😭 but hey, my girl 🚘 is getting new shoes!
Make sure to add it to the gallery when you get a chance! -Edgar
www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
Which air suspension should i buy for an old car like w123 or w124 Merc and how to work out if it will fit ?
Do you guys have an install video for the height sensors?
We are looking at doing this possibly with Alex's F430
bags here, bags there, bags everywhere!
I would love to know if with air suspension you can get soft damping with fast rebound and enough travel for rough canyon roads, and on track get as stiff as coilovers.
Yes to your track question. They work amazing on track! Honestly it’s amazing.
Bags is the way to go. Im working on my two body dropped mini trucks rn then I will definitely be bagging my focus st ...... yours is sick bro gr8 job. Also ill be contacting yall for some shoes very soon
Can you please let me know what those wheels on the top row, second from the left are? Thank you!
I need coil overs or air ride for my 2012 Camry SE. badddd. Waiting on turbo and really want to install a air ride set up but can’t find any no where PLS HELP!!!
I have a 05 Mercedes cl 55. Has the stock abc suspension. It rides great and incredibly smooth but at 80k it starts breaking and cost like 10k to repair. I’m considering removing abc and getting airbags customly installed. Do you guys think airbags would make it ride rougher or smoother?. It’s a heavy car like 4,300 pounds.
bro am just thinking planning on buying an cl 55 or an sl 65/55 amg between 03 - 05 cl/sl amg, how is it running for you bro now? give me tips shouts out from toronto :)
Love the channel keep up the good work guys
im scared to get air suspension because i have a crazy aftermarket sound set up and on stock suspension im squatted with all the weight
How is it in cold weather??? In the snow??
Air for a track car? I want my car to sit low but I wanna go track with slicks. Can the bags and sensors keep up and handle a day at the track
I installed air ride on my ST as well! I like it also what do you leave your damping at tho?
I love the way different English dialects pronounce the word bag. "Beg"
stuart nordstrom bæg
Will they be bad if you have bad winters
I personally am going to go with coils since I just do not have the funds for anything like air and when I get a car in around a year, I am just gonna wanna put some suspention on it and I know I am not going to want to save more for air.
You can get universal air bags that convert most common coilover suspension to air bags. Look up Universal Air. They can sort out adaptor brackets. Im currently saving for BC's and in the future convert them to bag on coil set-up. Easy to reverse too.
what are the wheels to the bottom left gold ones
Great video. Quick question. Can you track or autocross on bags or is it show only?
You can track it!
Fitment Industries Whoa... thanks for the info. I had no idea bags could be performance oriented.
Google Cody Miles STi or Todd Fullford Hellcat. You can thank me later.
Jim MorePSI ha! Thanks. I finally got around to looking them up and wow! May have to take a look at air.
how does the car corner? can u still do touge runs with the air suspension?
How's the handling / performance tho compared to springs
Much better than lowering springs!
Is there any drilling required for the air lines?
So do u set your alignment to your ride height
do you think it is good to use even winter?
Shirt answer is YES, still worth it.
Thanks for the info, but I don’t really care about lowering the car I care about ride comfort, for an SUV, make a video on comfort please.
I'm new in the car community and don't know too much about cars... but I'm planning on a budget on mods I would install onto my "future frs", I already searched up coilovers, wheels, tires, and air intake (avo turbo kit is too expensive). However, I cannot find any aero kit for sale. Where do I look for that?
Edit: My first project car
Depends on if you want a wide body or just a splitter, canards, diffusers, etc. As far as aero goes we know Aeroflow Dynamics makes some great stuff!
@@FitmentIndustries oooh great!!!! 😃😃😃 thank you so much! I'm looking for widebody kits (especially the v3 rocket bunny), I'll for sure check that out! I need to get everything together before heading off to college!
Never been so early to a FI vid 🤣😆
Anyone know of some airbag suspension companies that fit a 2006 s55 amg?
Shoot us an email at shop@fitmentindustries.com and we'll see what we can find for you!
@@FitmentIndustries just did. Thank you
I really be out here with a car that came with air suspension from the factory (Citroën C4grand picasso and admittedly only on the back). I also got the dealership only diagnostic system so I can set the heights to whatever I want
have wanted bags for years on my car but they are sooooo expensive in Australia....Its like 8-9G (6-7G usd)
DANG! Im assuming its not easy to source locally? -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries there are a couple of companies that do them but Australia just doesn't have population size to have more companies making higher production levels to lower the cost. I watch a bunch of TH-cam car shows and the price you guys get parts and engines for is so cheap compared to here.
Ain't no $500 junk yard LS motors here. If you can find a barely running LS1 they are starting at like 4g
I have air on my 2012 camaro ss. I love it I wouldnt trade it for anything
Does it affect performance?
Y'all cool af. Found fitment wanting to learn something new
Anyone else recognise that kiss? 😂😂 3:06
Who has bags that’s honestly can say they drive their car hard though I feel like you can’t be rough on air like coil overs
There's a time attack STi on Airlift. You can track it as you please
My gy6 haves air ride in it and I love it 🙀
What’s max height on air suspension I’m looking at airtekk stage 3 but idk cuz we have bad winter here nd I drive far away places if anyone knows max height if it’s stock height or higher then stock height ? Any info will be helpful
I've been looking getting air lift for my focus, but I still have a lot questions on the fitment
what tire and wheel size would u guys recommend if im getting an air rlift suspension?
Depends entirely on your vehicle! Shoot us a DM on IG or Facebook and we'd be happy to help!
I never installed any suspension till I got my air suspension honestly it’s not that hard it’s better if you install it on your own so you get to know more about it how it works if you just pay you won’t really know much lol
Trying to get my dad to buy this setup but he's so hard headed and glued to that crappy brand gabriel shocks which you have to manually air it up instead of this system where you can sit in the car and air it up.
Your videos are selling me on the 3P.
Just hope Airlift does a kit for a 2010 Crown Majesta 😅
Hopefully nab a black friday deal this year or something
What wheels are the rotational bronze to your left??
How do they fair against potholes?
I wouldn't recommend hunting for potholes, but they are made to withstand daily driving and would be fine with an occasional mistake of hitting one
@@FitmentIndustries fook. No bags for me then. So many potholes where I'm from. Cheaper to replace shocks and coils than a Bag I guess
I want to bag my car but I will do it next year because it’s expensive plus I’m working on some performance mods for the track
Atm my '03 WRX blobeye uses TEIN SS coilovers, I really do like coilovers but they cant be adjusted instantly to get up driveways. I have my lowering setting looking nice but usable, I plan on getting an FD in the near future and I want to run low. I hate scraping, and in Australia, your car cant be lower then a coke can, Static low boys here are either scrapping or getting raped by police. I'm interested in how airbags handle compared to coil-overs. Will bags support high-speed driving?
What are those gold wheels next to the white cosmis? 😅
Revolve Wheels! We are working on getting the full line on our site currently, but check out what we already have here - www.fitmentindustries.com/store/wheels?&brand=Revolve
Thank you! I definitely will checkout some wheels I want me another pair, I currently have the xt206r on my wrx
Airtekk or Bc coilovers for a 2007 3dr Yaris???
If they have the kit's for it, go for it! Im not too familiar with any of the Yaris platform personally. -Edgar
So, after everything another year later. Would you still say air lift is the way to go over a set of BV coilovers?
Also curious