i agree with all of this. one thing i noticed is i had a 350z and it was the first car i bagged. bc coilovers and racelands drove the same. i was doing backroads wouldnt do turns more than like 65-70 max. when i went on air, since the 350z is so heavy. the bags rode so wonderfully, and stable that i was able to take turns at like 80-85, only limiting factor was me being too bitch to go faster. the annoying part of an air suspension kit is the installation, and working out the kinks, then finding that perfect ride. then the fact that the perfect ride also changes depending on if you have a passenger (slightly but you can still feel it). after that every car i own gets bagged, i have a kit in my room waiting for my e36, then did a set on my skyline the first week i bought it lol. next thing im going to try are air cups when i get my e92 m3. gonna compare the 2. because i feel like aircups will be super sick lol.
@@yuraek yes you can. You can even track it. Yes coilovers are more ideal to track but I only mention that because if air suspension can handle spirited driving on the track - it can certainly handle daily commuting to work and/or school.
@@عمرعبدالستارياسين there are varying opinions. Some say it's as comfortable as stock and some say it's more comfortable. The only thing that is certain - is it's more comfortable than coilovers and springs.
@@blkeclipsel2400 Thank u. I asked some owners and they says it differ for about 60% than stock . Am gonna have it next few months so am weird about its comfortable or not bcs its the main purpose.
Ambient temperature will ABSOLUTELY affect the air pressure that the bags are holding. They hold the same concept as tires do. The warmer the ambient temperature, the higher the PSI. The lower the ambient temperature, the lower the PSI. The more you strain the tires, the warmer they get, the higher the PSI goes. Same with the bags. That's why it's always recommended to regularly check PSI on tires before using it for the first time during the day; especially if there has been sudden significant drops in temperature outside. I remember one day as winter was coming, the temperature dropped almost 40 degrees overnight. I hopped in the car, let it warm up and then took off to work at 4 am in the morning and the low tire pressure light popped up for all four tires. Every single one of them lost about 7 PSI. I turned around and aired them up. Ambient Temperature also affects ride quality; think about it - heat expands matter, whilst cold brings matter together. The metal expands as it warms up, but if the ambient temperature is too cold, and not enough is stress is being applied to the suspension then it will remain cold and you will experience a more "stiff" ride. It's also why engines typically run a little smoother when fall and spring come around, and then the opposite happens when winter and summer comes around. :)
I would definitely say it’s worth it but makes sure you have a warranty and/or extra money in case something breaks. But other than that you save money on other parts (front lips). Joshubaru has gone through eight greddy lips being static (shoutout josh) I am on my first and only one
Man been watching since before I even had a hawkeye of my own 😂never thought I'd get one so soon but I'd for sure say your videos moulded my decision. I run bc racing coilovers but have always wondered if air suspension could drive as well 🤔
I love my bag system! I had to install a cheaper option, only control front & back (Not each corner), no presets (basically guessing ride height), bags are on coilover, etc. The reason I installed bags was simply to raise the vehicle to get out of my driveway without scraping my rear end! I don't particularly need nor want it slammed! Is there a way of setting up coilovers as a sort if bumpstop? My concern is losing air & car being immobilized as wheels are slammed into wheelarches & won't roll! Also, I only have a single compressor & height (both up & down) is controlled by a remote fob, the only gauge is on trunk with tank so I can only guess what height I'm at (or exit vehicle to look! Am I able to add to this system, like a manual controller in the cabin with gauge, & second compressor without taking to a shop?
[ Someone who doesn’t know too much about cars ] I recently got my first car , it’s 06 dodge charger and i want to get a low profile kit for it . so i would like to have bags so i have the option to air up to avoid big speed bumps and parking on certain driveways . my questions are : Can i get bags or is it specific to certain vehicles ? Could i still handle corners and drive at higher speeds with bags ? and last but not least , is this a beginner level installation thing or will i definitely need someone who knows what they’re doing help me?
personally i dont like bags,more for show than go.....running meisterr coils not too low as to have buffing its just right.....not too stiff and fully adjustable for road and track....totally get were u are coming from its down to personal pref i guess....ps.hope the conversion has all settled down now and running well,,keeper lit man....
Rakeem Jones. I have the airlift 3P performance series on my daily driver Camaro 2SS. Its convenience and comfort over static coilovers is like night and day. Any questions feel free to ask.
Great review. Looking to also get air. Are u on the complete kit with airlift bags as well?. Also I here air leaks and compressor going out is an issue as well. I daily my car since it's tue only car I own. Would u recommend it? Thanks
what sort of airlift kit you got on your car i heard the 3H is the best as it actively balancese the height right and left front and back beforefore improving the handling when you push the car I assume you are on the 3P that doesnt have this setup
He has the 3P. Judging by what he says about manually adjusting the pressure with rear seat passengers. I don't know if this was just my shop guy being too lazy but considering my application - what he said made a lot of sense and he is an authorized dealer/installer listed on Airlift's site. He convinced me not to spend the extra money on the height sensors. ($500 for sensors $200 extra for install). He said that since I could always upgrade later - to give the 3P a try first and if I'm not totally satisfied he'd be happy to take my money with the height sensor install. He couldn't recommend that I spend nearly a grand extra unless money wasn't an issue and I wanted to squeeze in every bit of performance I could for competitive purposes. In that sense he states the height sensors adds very little for the price. From there the way I saw it if being truly competitive in track was my main goal - I wouldn't be looking into air suspension in the first place..I'd invest in static suspension instead.
Mark Willoughby I do. You generally don’t air out because water can freeze in your lines, stranding you and even cracking lines. Some people put antifreeze in but I haven’t, I just make sure the water trap is empty and I only air out for an occasional snow photo
Dahon Bike if it’s just a small leak, it will auto fill with more air from the tank and you should looking into fixing it before it gets worse. If its really bad and stuck aired out, car can be stuck/stranded/ depending on the car and rubbing but most of these companies have great customer service and next day ship parts
This argument is so stupid. Many commercial trucks run air suspension setups in one form or another. If it was as unreliable as people seem to wish it was for argument sake, those vehicles wouldn't use it.
Tires are filled with air too but you don't mention the fact tires make contact with sharp, steep, blunt, friction, and rough road conditions 24/7. Bags aren't as bad as you think.
Anyone knows what's required to do to your air system when you store your car for winters...do you just leave it aired out or keep it on a certain height n etc
im curious about this too. im not super knowledged in suspension. if my wheels are poking and i air out is the pressure going to camber my wheels into the fender? or go straight down
i agree with all of this. one thing i noticed is i had a 350z and it was the first car i bagged. bc coilovers and racelands drove the same. i was doing backroads wouldnt do turns more than like 65-70 max. when i went on air, since the 350z is so heavy. the bags rode so wonderfully, and stable that i was able to take turns at like 80-85, only limiting factor was me being too bitch to go faster.
the annoying part of an air suspension kit is the installation, and working out the kinks, then finding that perfect ride. then the fact that the perfect ride also changes depending on if you have a passenger (slightly but you can still feel it).
after that every car i own gets bagged, i have a kit in my room waiting for my e36, then did a set on my skyline the first week i bought it lol. next thing im going to try are air cups when i get my e92 m3. gonna compare the 2. because i feel like aircups will be super sick lol.
Bags are the best investment I’ve done to my car. Love air!
Can you daily drive air suspension
Is it comfortable?
@@yuraek yes you can. You can even track it. Yes coilovers are more ideal to track but I only mention that because if air suspension can handle spirited driving on the track - it can certainly handle daily commuting to work and/or school.
@@عمرعبدالستارياسين there are varying opinions. Some say it's as comfortable as stock and some say it's more comfortable. The only thing that is certain - is it's more comfortable than coilovers and springs.
@@blkeclipsel2400
Thank u.
I asked some owners and they says it differ for about 60% than stock .
Am gonna have it next few months so am weird about its comfortable or not bcs its the main purpose.
I think you touched on this subject perfectly. its just a matter of prefrence and what you are looking for personally.
Ambient temperature will ABSOLUTELY affect the air pressure that the bags are holding. They hold the same concept as tires do. The warmer the ambient temperature, the higher the PSI. The lower the ambient temperature, the lower the PSI. The more you strain the tires, the warmer they get, the higher the PSI goes. Same with the bags. That's why it's always recommended to regularly check PSI on tires before using it for the first time during the day; especially if there has been sudden significant drops in temperature outside.
I remember one day as winter was coming, the temperature dropped almost 40 degrees overnight. I hopped in the car, let it warm up and then took off to work at 4 am in the morning and the low tire pressure light popped up for all four tires. Every single one of them lost about 7 PSI. I turned around and aired them up.
Ambient Temperature also affects ride quality; think about it - heat expands matter, whilst cold brings matter together. The metal expands as it warms up, but if the ambient temperature is too cold, and not enough is stress is being applied to the suspension then it will remain cold and you will experience a more "stiff" ride. It's also why engines typically run a little smoother when fall and spring come around, and then the opposite happens when winter and summer comes around. :)
Hey You said u had the bags for 2 yrs, how's the maintenance on them? Leaks?
I would definitely say it’s worth it but makes sure you have a warranty and/or extra money in case something breaks. But other than that you save money on other parts (front lips). Joshubaru has gone through eight greddy lips being static (shoutout josh) I am on my first and only one
Man been watching since before I even had a hawkeye of my own 😂never thought I'd get one so soon but I'd for sure say your videos moulded my decision. I run bc racing coilovers but have always wondered if air suspension could drive as well 🤔
Been here since 1k subs and still get super stoked when you upload
Hey mate, isn't air suspension the best option for comfort?
I love my bag system!
I had to install a cheaper option, only control front & back (Not each corner), no presets (basically guessing ride height), bags are on coilover, etc.
The reason I installed bags was simply to raise the vehicle to get out of my driveway without scraping my rear end! I don't particularly need nor want it slammed!
Is there a way of setting up coilovers as a sort if bumpstop? My concern is losing air & car being immobilized as wheels are slammed into wheelarches & won't roll!
Also, I only have a single compressor & height (both up & down) is controlled by a remote fob, the only gauge is on trunk with tank so I can only guess what height I'm at (or exit vehicle to look! Am I able to add to this system, like a manual controller in the cabin with gauge, & second compressor without taking to a shop?
I’ve been dreaming I’ve getting air for my wagon for a while now hopefully soon I can make that a reality😩🙏🏾
[ Someone who doesn’t know too much about cars ]
I recently got my first car , it’s 06 dodge charger and i want to get a low profile kit for it . so i would like to have bags so i have the option to air up to avoid big speed bumps and parking on certain driveways . my questions are : Can i get bags or is it specific to certain vehicles ? Could i still handle corners and drive at higher speeds with bags ? and last but not least , is this a beginner level installation thing or will i definitely need someone who knows what they’re doing help me?
personally i dont like bags,more for show than go.....running meisterr coils not too low as to have buffing its just right.....not too stiff and fully adjustable for road and track....totally get were u are coming from its down to personal pref i guess....ps.hope the conversion has all settled down now and running well,,keeper lit man....
hi... just want to ask if you used your bc strut? and what bag are you using? may i know where did you buy it? thanks
Dope car man. I’m really trying to get bags but it would for my daily. Would you recommend it for a daily?
Rakeem Jones. I have the airlift 3P performance series on my daily driver Camaro 2SS. Its convenience and comfort over static coilovers is like night and day. Any questions feel free to ask.
@@blkeclipsel2400 Thanks so much man. Do you have an IG?
I'm looking into switching to air, I have an 05 subaru legacy sitting on an outback frame. I'm still new to the car community so yee
Great review. Looking to also get air. Are u on the complete kit with airlift bags as well?. Also I here air leaks and compressor going out is an issue as well. I daily my car since it's tue only car I own. Would u recommend it? Thanks
On my 240 I have airlift 3p manifold , bag over coil. I really like it but not for short trips... mine airs out to THE GROUND
what sort of airlift kit you got on your car i heard the 3H is the best as it actively balancese the height right and left front and back beforefore improving the handling when you push the car
I assume you are on the 3P that doesnt have this setup
He has the 3P. Judging by what he says about manually adjusting the pressure with rear seat passengers.
I don't know if this was just my shop guy being too lazy but considering my application - what he said made a lot of sense and he is an authorized dealer/installer listed on Airlift's site. He convinced me not to spend the extra money on the height sensors. ($500 for sensors $200 extra for install).
He said that since I could always upgrade later - to give the 3P a try first and if I'm not totally satisfied he'd be happy to take my money with the height sensor install.
He couldn't recommend that I spend nearly a grand extra unless money wasn't an issue and I wanted to squeeze in every bit of performance I could for competitive purposes. In that sense he states the height sensors adds very little for the price.
From there the way I saw it if being truly competitive in track was my main goal - I wouldn't be looking into air suspension in the first place..I'd invest in static suspension instead.
My brothers air suspension always has to be refilled after a stop. Let’s say stop for lunch. Is any of yours like that?
Those knobs adjust the dampening of the shock absorber itself.
Cody miles is also one of the reasons I got bags, along with you
I live on a gravel road would bags be able to hold up?
i just wanna ask idk if anyone has ever heard of one of there "bags" popping? does that happen?
How often do u need alignment?
do you live where it snows or gets decently cold for awhile?
Mark Willoughby I do. You generally don’t air out because water can freeze in your lines, stranding you and even cracking lines. Some people put antifreeze in but I haven’t, I just make sure the water trap is empty and I only air out for an occasional snow photo
@@willshubaru would you think metal lines would be better or are they at more risk during the cold?
Air bags are alot of money should i finance them?
what wheels do you have?
U explained this so well
Thank u!
How do you make your grill look like that?
what stock??
Does it add weight?- Yes. Does it increase speed or cornering?- No
what color is your car
So they need adjustable damping and stuff on the fly too. It should be that you lower and stiffen the car, or raise and soften it???
What's the name of those after market mirrors bro?
APR gt3
how much would a full system cost all around?
I'm about to get this installed on my MK6 GTI for $8200 CAD
crazy that you didn't mention the safety risks of air. I mean what happens when a bag or a pressure line leaks while you drive.
Dahon Bike if it’s just a small leak, it will auto fill with more air from the tank and you should looking into fixing it before it gets worse. If its really bad and stuck aired out, car can be stuck/stranded/ depending on the car and rubbing but most of these companies have great customer service and next day ship parts
This argument is so stupid. Many commercial trucks run air suspension setups in one form or another. If it was as unreliable as people seem to wish it was for argument sake, those vehicles wouldn't use it.
Tires are filled with air too but you don't mention the fact tires make contact with sharp, steep, blunt, friction, and rough road conditions 24/7. Bags aren't as bad as you think.
If it's a small leak, the air compressor might get on your nerves
Full detailed video
Anyone knows what's required to do to your air system when you store your car for winters...do you just leave it aired out or keep it on a certain height n etc
Aired out
Can you destroy your fenders if you air out air and your wheels aren't straight?
im curious about this too. im not super knowledged in suspension. if my wheels are poking and i air out is the pressure going to camber my wheels into the fender? or go straight down
Can a air tool be hooked up to the tank ports to fill tires?
yeah i saw someone do it
Nice Bro
Is aired all the way up the same as stock ride height?
Laura Brewer Photography depends on the car. Could be the same as stock, could be higher.
Bro I live right around there lol
Remove air suspension... And do the coilover
Why this is better