@@stu1944 if you are in the US around Florida area my tuner: 'Autocraft Tuning' motorsports tuner will make you the most reliable power. ~AconcernedHaitian
Sorry to break the bad news but the M113K are now starting to show signs for expensive repairs. A lot (mines included) have piston ring failures and every supercharger failures. To add to that MB have stopped making the superchargers. Few are having issues with the #8 cylinder especially. However, once running its a flipping animal!!!
M113K is the best V8 Mercedes ever put in a car bar none, the M119 is second.. The M156 is a great motor but I think the 5.5L Turbo and 4.0L Turbo units that followed it are probably superior too. Not a fan of the M156 it's just not reliable enough and that's such an important part of a Mercedes engine.
Was going back and forth between an SL55 and an SL63... ended up going with the SL55 because of the head bolt issue on the SL63 and the bulletproof reputation of the 113k engine.
Don't you just love it!!!! Picked up one about a year ago. I swear it's a Beast and I've had no issues with it. I get so many compliments on it. Most people don't believe how old it is.
Also the 113K was so durable and reliable, they used it as the basis for the SLR McLaren (M155 I believe) And that car is a genuine 200+ mph motorcar… I won’t be selling my 05’ anytime soon.
I owned a 2005 S55 for several years, and only had to let it go when it was totaled by hail here in Texas. I loved my S55, but thought I move up to the S63 for a replacement. And I can say that everything you talked about it true. The S55 was "bullet proof" and the only issues I had with the engine was replacing all the pulleys and belt when the supercharger pulley bearing started to make noise. This was at 110,000 miles. The S63 on the other hand, has been a VERY problematic car for me. I love the looks, love the interior, but the reliability has been very poor. I had the cam follower buckets seize in their bores, and had them all replaced, fortunately before camshaft damage. Then, shortly after (why couldn't it have happened at the same time?!) a cylinder head bolt let go, causing a slow leak of coolant into the cylinder. So, I had all the bolts and head gaskets changed on both banks. The total for those two jobs was over $7,000! Not for the faint of heart! But, the real reason, beyond reliability, I want to find a low mileage 2006 S55 is because of the way the engines make power. I miss the low down torque of the S55 every time I put the pedal down on the S63! And I can tell you that an S55 will murder an S63 off the line up to about 100 mph (yes, I do know for sure!). And with a modified exhaust the S55 sounds every bit as exciting as an S63. So, despite the fact that I'd be going back in time, interior (my S63 is totally loaded with night vision, power heated and cooled rear seats, rear climate controls, etc. etc) and exterior looks, I WILL OWN ANOTHER S55 AGAIN SOON! The is just no substitute for the way the S55 makes you feel, it simply monsters everything. And the next S55 will have the smaller SC pulley installed, and a tune. Plus upgraded infotainment system to bring it up to date. So, take it from someone who knows (at least with S Class cars), I'd take the monster torque and reliability of the M113K every time over the higher revs and power you have to work the "fragile" M156 too hard to get to. Even if it means an older car. I wonder.... Could you put an M113K in a S63???? :-)))
the m159 variant of the 6.2l V8 should be at least quite reliable overall, because many of the issues are fixed from the m156 variant. I think the 6.2l V8 was designed to be more like a sports car engine by producing more peak power and but it has to be revved up a little bit more to get its peak torque (but still quite-very torquey at low revs), because for many drivers, it’s more characterful than producing a huge amounts of torque down low then producing mediocre torque high up on the rev range. Low end torque is very important for an everyday car and is probably why you might prefer slightly more low end torque over top end.
@@loludied552 the m156/9 are actually race derived engines, they are so great that mercedes still retains them in racing series several years after the m157 and m177 succeeded it
@@masonichisenga3032 So, I never looked any more into it. I’m now driving an S550 twin turbo! So power isn’t an issue 😁 But, anything can be done with enough money and time… 😊
M113k all day long! Ive had a couple of porsches which i loved but my SL55 is in a different league in my humble opinion 😁 really enjoying your input thanks 👍
M113K is a badboy. Super stout motor and easy to tune up. The low - mid range torque is instant, whilst peak power is delivered very near redline . Have driven a C63 204 with tune and LTH and it just felt weak down low and mid range compared to a standard M113K in my E55 K. ( And also slower on a roll race from 60-130,).
I recently bought a 2004 s55. I believe it is wildly under appreciated. One of the best engines and the w220 design is warming up on people these days. I personally love it
I have them both one in my 2003 AMG SL 55 and the ML AMG 2007 63, great engines. Thanks for your updates. These are two of my six Mercedes collection. Two other SL 500's and two GL 550's. I would consider the 2006 S AMG 65 only because of it's 427 production numbers.
Thank you for bringing this one and I envy you for the 2 great cars you own . There are only very few personal and exotic car videos like this coming out from Australia and I really appreciate your efforts.
Well I have a CL 65, CL 55, and CLS 63 and I will say that every single one of those engines is completely different in characteristic than the other........all awesome!
That color combo is without question THE best they ever offered. The blue looks like a custom kandy respray and the white interior is B-E-A-UTIFUL!!!! Some dealers offered a replacement seat back that was black on the sides and white down the middle that was like BUTTA!!!!! Beautiful cars my Friend
I have a clk amg 55 with the naturally aspirated engine. Not supercharged and I have a C63 2014. The clk 55 engine is a relaxing cruiser with good low end torque. The C63 love's to be reved and has that wonderful noise. If it is at all possible get 2 cars by Mercedes that have one of these engines in and you will have the best of both worlds.
Great video on my favourite AMG engines... Keep it up 👍 🏆 IMHO You are also very blessed to have 2 legendary AMG engined vehicles as your weekend & daily driver 👏... May you be blessed with endless miles of smiles that come with the privilege of this ownership 🤲 👍 Really miss my NSW days from yesteryear 🤗 😅 Cheers 🍻
Amazing content! I have the exact AMG duo as you. Currently considering of acquiring a M157 and a M177 in the future. Can you share you opinions on these two engine please? Are they AMG enough or are they worth getting? Thanks so much!
I'm hoping you've still kept a hold of that C63, they really didn't make many in mystic blue. It's a very very rare color. The SL55 is a timeless design, the only weakness of the SL is the ABC system... As long as it's been well maintained there shouldn't be many issues... although doing a Coilover conversion makes this car a reliable daily supercar (Yes Supercar) but it destroys the value and takes away the uniqueness of the SL55.
Oy! G’day Simon, Great TH-cam series, been watching for a while since I’ve owned an 09 R230 for 4 years now and thus far have thoroughly loved it. You mentioned that you were going to share the VIN or data, at which time the cylinder head bolts were upgrade. I have thought of purchasing an SL63 but I’m aware of the head bolt issues and other potential problems to look out for. Thanks for your excellent content. E
Well for me I would love the M113 engine because of its reliability and growl. I don't like screening v8 engines I love growling v8 engines that care up to 4700rpm in less than 4 seconds that lunch speeds from 0 to 60 in 2 seconds that's my option on the v8 engine characteristics and the v8 engine exhaust shoot ups the pops from the exhausts.
This C63 AMG ate alive the M3 E92, it already had more power and bigger engine but also with S class programm, that could`ve been installed via computer, it could get the 518 HP of the other bigger brothers full power.
Yep. I've burned my leg on the exhaust and my wife has too. They tips stick out a bit and it's easy to get burned when getting something out of the trunk after a drive.
M113 is one of my favorite engines, simple and bulletproof design. Do you know if there is an easy and straightforward way of supercharging the 500 (NA non AMG) M113? 55 values are way too high these days, but you can find really nice 500 examples for bargain prices. Also, is the 7 speed on the 06 models capable of handling a bit more power and torque?
Kleeman makes a kit for the M113, but it has high compression ratio and the stock rods can only handle so much boost. It will probably be cheaper to swap the engine for an M113K
The reason they call the 6.2 a 6.3 as I was told was that for legal reasons in germany or europe they must always round up on displacement figures. Irrespective of which it is nearer to.
Could please share a bit more info on the exhaust system of sl55? How did you make it sound so similar to M156? That pure growl without the harmonics? I’m trying to get a similar tone on my cl500 but I just don’t know how. What mufflers are there? Thanks
Great video! :) well owning a SL55 R230 now having an SL63 R230 AMG. M113 is a great engine. Yes the M156 has more maintenance than the M113 but the M156 is a racing engine and just love the roar. I can’t say more. Lucky I bought the car at 30k miles now have 117k miles now. Head bolts already done in the car before I bought it. Camshaft & lifters still great because get oil change (liqui moly oil) every 3000 miles. Replaced conductor plate, injection fuel, spark plugs & coils. Now my intake manifold going bad :( but after replacing that. Car will last for long time I hope lol It’s ok. Love the car. I can’t go back to the M113 after tasting the M156 engine. There both different kind of engine. Both are great engine but my choice is the M156 plus I love the R230 facelift as well too. :)
@@mguytv So is that engine just as reliable as the 113k? If so why? I'm looking at the CLK now and I need to know as much as I can about it. Anymore info would truly help me a lot. Thx.
M156🤠 with the 7Gtronic🤓🤓, free revving and quick, nevertheless the tone, brute power from the longer gears from the m113K...thank you... im looking to compare the m271 and the new amg 4 cyl engine. any info abvice welcome, will be using my 13 c250amg as YT model. really enjoy your content ~AconcernedHaitian
Have you ever considered the purposes of each of these cars the 113 engines the vast majority are driven by old men 5 miles per hour below the speed limit vs speed nuts who require performance
Bro so your saying the 55 has more hp stock than the 63 ...it’s not 463 whp it 517 WHP stock but the 2005 SL 500 is 500 hp 🤔...you lost a subscriber fuxk noo I’m gone why would they make the older models faster than the newer 1 doesn’t make sense
The first M156 in the C63 only had 451HP. The M113K in the ‘55 was quoted at 460 but was actually closer to 490. So yes, stock M113K in the SL55 had more than the first version of the M156 in the C63.
Idk my cls is pushing 500 stock I haven’t done anything to it 2020 wide bdy scat are pushing 470 to 480 ish and I gapped him so idk# but I love your cars dnt mind me # but depending on how healthy your motor is varies whp as well jus saying
Forgot to put up the engine number... from (last 8 digits) 60 060658 onwards you’re ok.
Awesome vid, I got a 507edition which I want to fit the weistec stage 3 supercharger on
That's why I got a 2013...
hence your the best AMG guy! on youtube. cheers
@@stu1944 if you are in the US around Florida area my tuner: 'Autocraft Tuning' motorsports tuner will make you the most reliable power.
~AconcernedHaitian
@@Sympatiko85 thanks but sadly in in South Africa 🇿🇦
Got my first amg last week and boy I'm loving it. E55 amg is a torque monster 😁
I have one too. It's great. And you have a great taste in bourbon. Cheers.
S211 wagon here 😍🔥 e55_wagon
06 E55 in my garage. Welcome to the club.
I’m so lucky to have an M113 in my garage with 9,000 miles on it, in a 2005 C55. My baby.
Drive it don't baby it
Really 9000 miles only ? Do you ever drive it ?
Came to my senses and sold it. You are right, I was not driving and enjoying it.
@@len333p super low miles! i hope you cashed out on it.
Never SELL
M113k is more reliable and just all around better. Love the m156 but the m113k is definitely more superior. 🤙🏽
Sorry to break the bad news but the M113K are now starting to show signs for expensive repairs. A lot (mines included) have piston ring failures and every supercharger failures. To add to that MB have stopped making the superchargers. Few are having issues with the #8 cylinder especially. However, once running its a flipping animal!!!
M113 and M113K ,,efficient and reliable engines..too many problems with M156.
M113K is the best V8 Mercedes ever put in a car bar none, the M119 is second..
The M156 is a great motor but I think the 5.5L Turbo and 4.0L Turbo units that followed it are probably superior too.
Not a fan of the M156 it's just not reliable enough and that's such an important part of a Mercedes engine.
Was going back and forth between an SL55 and an SL63... ended up going with the SL55 because of the head bolt issue on the SL63 and the bulletproof reputation of the 113k engine.
Good choice - I don’t like the facelift front of the ‘63 as much as the ‘55
Thanks for doing this video before you sold the SL.
Watching the video in my cls55 amg ❤
Don't you just love it!!!! Picked up one about a year ago. I swear it's a Beast and I've had no issues with it. I get so many compliments on it. Most people don't believe how old it is.
@@christopherjohnson3335 true
M113K is the best engine, the 63 has a few issues although still a great engine.
Nop, the m156 is the FIRST and LAST full AMG engine, that mean that is created by AMG, not based of some MB engine.
@@ivancbr600rr facts
@@ivancbr600rr and they only made this first and last one? Any reason? Maybe they are better to tune the engine, not create an engine.
03 cL 55 till I die feels like a Bentley inside:)
Also the 113K was so durable and reliable, they used it as the basis for the SLR McLaren (M155 I believe)
And that car is a genuine 200+ mph motorcar… I won’t be selling my 05’ anytime soon.
Have the m275 and M113K ..the m113K is way more fun and easier to maintain . 👍🏼👌
I’d prefer the M113k engine
Great vid👍 I have a Silver 2006 ultra low millage mint condition Gelandewagen G55 AMG with M113K engine , sound awesome😊
I owned a 2005 S55 for several years, and only had to let it go when it was totaled by hail here in Texas. I loved my S55, but thought I move up to the S63 for a replacement. And I can say that everything you talked about it true. The S55 was "bullet proof" and the only issues I had with the engine was replacing all the pulleys and belt when the supercharger pulley bearing started to make noise. This was at 110,000 miles. The S63 on the other hand, has been a VERY problematic car for me. I love the looks, love the interior, but the reliability has been very poor. I had the cam follower buckets seize in their bores, and had them all replaced, fortunately before camshaft damage. Then, shortly after (why couldn't it have happened at the same time?!) a cylinder head bolt let go, causing a slow leak of coolant into the cylinder. So, I had all the bolts and head gaskets changed on both banks. The total for those two jobs was over $7,000! Not for the faint of heart!
But, the real reason, beyond reliability, I want to find a low mileage 2006 S55 is because of the way the engines make power. I miss the low down torque of the S55 every time I put the pedal down on the S63! And I can tell you that an S55 will murder an S63 off the line up to about 100 mph (yes, I do know for sure!). And with a modified exhaust the S55 sounds every bit as exciting as an S63. So, despite the fact that I'd be going back in time, interior (my S63 is totally loaded with night vision, power heated and cooled rear seats, rear climate controls, etc. etc) and exterior looks, I WILL OWN ANOTHER S55 AGAIN SOON! The is just no substitute for the way the S55 makes you feel, it simply monsters everything. And the next S55 will have the smaller SC pulley installed, and a tune. Plus upgraded infotainment system to bring it up to date. So, take it from someone who knows (at least with S Class cars), I'd take the monster torque and reliability of the M113K every time over the higher revs and power you have to work the "fragile" M156 too hard to get to. Even if it means an older car.
I wonder.... Could you put an M113K in a S63???? :-)))
the m159 variant of the 6.2l V8 should be at least quite reliable overall, because many of the issues are fixed from the m156 variant.
I think the 6.2l V8 was designed to be more like a sports car engine by producing more peak power and but it has to be revved up a little bit more to get its peak torque (but still quite-very torquey at low revs), because for many drivers, it’s more characterful than producing a huge amounts of torque down low then producing mediocre torque high up on the rev range.
Low end torque is very important for an everyday car and is probably why you might prefer slightly more low end torque over top end.
The m113k is basically the mercedes ls, it's a really stout motor and very tuneable
@@loludied552 the m156/9 are actually race derived engines, they are so great that mercedes still retains them in racing series several years after the m157 and m177 succeeded it
I wonder too. Found out if it's possible to swap out the engine?
@@masonichisenga3032 So, I never looked any more into it. I’m now driving an S550 twin turbo! So power isn’t an issue 😁 But, anything can be done with enough money and time… 😊
M113k all day long! Ive had a couple of porsches which i loved but my SL55 is in a different league in my humble opinion 😁 really enjoying your input thanks 👍
M113K is a badboy. Super stout motor and easy to tune up. The low - mid range torque is instant, whilst peak power is delivered very near redline .
Have driven a C63 204 with tune and LTH and it just felt weak down low and mid range compared to a standard M113K in my E55 K. ( And also slower on a roll race from 60-130,).
My 2003 e55amg straight piped sounds sickening 😁
M113 kompressor 💪
Obviously i'm going to say M113K, but then i've got an SL55!
I recently bought a 2004 s55. I believe it is wildly under appreciated. One of the best engines and the w220 design is warming up on people these days. I personally love it
I’ve had 2 E55amg and now a CLS55amg. I really like the motor and transmission. Just remember Chrysler was part of the development.
I have them both one in my 2003 AMG SL 55 and the ML AMG 2007 63, great engines. Thanks for your updates. These are two of my six Mercedes collection. Two other SL 500's and two GL 550's. I would consider the 2006 S AMG 65 only because of it's 427 production numbers.
Very educational, and a good variety with you just explaining the difference and history .
Thank you, another enjoyable video
Nice comparison chat, and loved seeing the cars lined up together :)
I'd choose the M156 - because I have chosen it, and the C63 that surrounds it! :D
Thank you for bringing this one and I envy you for the 2 great cars you own . There are only very few personal and exotic car videos like this coming out from Australia and I really appreciate your efforts.
Thanks for watching!
M113 and M113K only!
Just purchased a 2003 sl55 im very exited
Congrats! Enjoy! They’re great cars!
What a great video. Most useful as I make a decision between 55 & 63 👌
Glad it was helpful!
Well I have a CL 65, CL 55, and CLS 63 and I will say that every single one of those engines is completely different in characteristic than the other........all awesome!
That color combo is without question THE best they ever offered. The blue looks like a custom kandy respray and the white interior is B-E-A-UTIFUL!!!! Some dealers offered a replacement seat back that was black on the sides and white down the middle that was like BUTTA!!!!! Beautiful cars my Friend
Great video both engines are awesome
Many thanks my friend. Peace
I have a clk amg 55 with the naturally aspirated engine. Not supercharged and I have a C63 2014. The clk 55 engine is a relaxing cruiser with good low end torque. The C63 love's to be reved and has that wonderful noise. If it is at all possible get 2 cars by Mercedes that have one of these engines in and you will have the best of both worlds.
Great video, subscribed 👍 am a Porsche / bmw guy but one day I’ll buy a Merc for a change!
that blue color is the Jam
Thanks for the walk through. Excellent presentation on the things that matter.
Great video on my favourite AMG engines... Keep it up 👍 🏆 IMHO You are also very blessed to have 2 legendary AMG engined vehicles as your weekend & daily driver 👏... May you be blessed with endless miles of smiles that come with the privilege of this ownership 🤲 👍
Really miss my NSW days from yesteryear 🤗 😅
Cheers 🍻
Amazing content! I have the exact AMG duo as you. Currently considering of acquiring a M157 and a M177 in the future. Can you share you opinions on these two engine please? Are they AMG enough or are they worth getting? Thanks so much!
I'm hoping you've still kept a hold of that C63, they really didn't make many in mystic blue. It's a very very rare color. The SL55 is a timeless design, the only weakness of the SL is the ABC system... As long as it's been well maintained there shouldn't be many issues... although doing a Coilover conversion makes this car a reliable daily supercar (Yes Supercar) but it destroys the value and takes away the uniqueness of the SL55.
Wow dude those legs need to see some sunlight... 😂 Great video btw
Oy! G’day Simon,
Great TH-cam series, been watching for a while since I’ve owned an 09 R230 for 4 years now and thus far have thoroughly loved it.
You mentioned that you were going to share the VIN or data, at which time the cylinder head bolts were upgrade.
I have thought of purchasing an SL63 but I’m aware of the head bolt issues and other potential problems to look out for.
Thanks for your excellent content.
E
Duh! Added as a pinned comment - thanks for the reminder!
M113k
Well for me I would love the M113 engine because of its reliability and growl. I don't like screening v8 engines I love growling v8 engines that care up to 4700rpm in less than 4 seconds that lunch speeds from 0 to 60 in 2 seconds that's my option on the v8 engine characteristics and the v8 engine exhaust shoot ups the pops from the exhausts.
This C63 AMG ate alive the M3 E92, it already had more power and bigger engine but also with S class programm, that could`ve been installed via computer, it could get the 518 HP of the other bigger brothers full power.
M113K every time.
Lol those white socks😂😂
Ooops... sorry!
@@mguytv
No stress, was just a joke 😂👍
Great video👌
Well I have to say that definitely the engines have different characteristics but a lot of that has to do with the transmission....
Oh the M156... Mind my little picture here (: High revs for quite some time makes the exhaust hot on the 6,2 liters beast.
Yep. I've burned my leg on the exhaust and my wife has too. They tips stick out a bit and it's easy to get burned when getting something out of the trunk after a drive.
I learned a lot keep up the good work keep producing these videos
as standard in the E63, it produces 640nm of torque.
What happened to the build plaque on your 55 ??
M113 is one of my favorite engines, simple and bulletproof design.
Do you know if there is an easy and straightforward way of supercharging the 500 (NA non AMG) M113?
55 values are way too high these days, but you can find really nice 500 examples for bargain prices.
Also, is the 7 speed on the 06 models capable of handling a bit more power and torque?
I don't but google is your friend!
Kleeman makes a kit for the M113, but it has high compression ratio and the stock rods can only handle so much boost. It will probably be cheaper to swap the engine for an M113K
M113k all way way
The reason they call the 6.2 a 6.3 as I was told was that for legal reasons in germany or europe they must always round up on displacement figures. Irrespective of which it is nearer to.
Yes, they need to round up to the nearest 100cc
Could please share a bit more info on the exhaust system of sl55? How did you make it sound so similar to M156? That pure growl without the harmonics? I’m trying to get a similar tone on my cl500 but I just don’t know how. What mufflers are there? Thanks
Hi Simon, can you recommend a workshop to do a PPI on a R230 SL65 in Sydney.
Hitech in Mascot - tell Gary I recommended him!
@@mguytv 🙏 appreciated enjoy your channel
M113 one of the best like the m119
M156 ;) Both are great though!
What mods were done on the C63 exhaust? Sounds way too good for stock.
It would have been cool if AMG had a manual transmission with the m156.
M156 C63 stock exhausts note that sounds incredible at startup and on power!! 2013 C63 AMG P31 20K miles + 2005 C55 AMG + 2012 ML 63 AMG RT Stage 2 Beast!!! AMG-OG
M156 at all time
Many more recalls for EVs that's the next thing coming l am just wondering if EVs will beat Kia and Hyundai's recall record and they make EVs also
Great video.. especially closer to home.
What is going on with your shirt though :-)
Very distracting ..
Haha - I wear the Audi shirt as a joke...!
You are wrong because after the 6.2 L came first the 5.5 L twin turbo V eight in the 63er models and after that the 4L TwinTurbo!
Yes you are correct, thanks for pointing out - I had overlooked the 5.5...
Great video! :) well owning a SL55 R230 now having an SL63 R230 AMG. M113 is a great engine. Yes the M156 has more maintenance than the M113 but the M156 is a racing engine and just love the roar. I can’t say more. Lucky I bought the car at 30k miles now have 117k miles now. Head bolts already done in the car before I bought it. Camshaft & lifters still great because get oil change (liqui moly oil) every 3000 miles. Replaced conductor plate, injection fuel, spark plugs & coils. Now my intake manifold going bad :( but after replacing that. Car will last for long time I hope lol It’s ok. Love the car. I can’t go back to the M113 after tasting the M156 engine. There both different kind of engine. Both are great engine but my choice is the M156 plus I love the R230 facelift as well too. :)
I like m156
Dear Mguy,
Would you consider doing the Spring/Strut swap on the SL55AMG?
Possibly, if the ABC was beyond hope, but the ride is so great I would want to keep it going as long as I could...!
6:26 your vaccum hoses are connected wrongly friend
Ah OK? On which engine? I have moved on both cars now, so it's someone else's problem...!
So the M113k is also used on the CLK 55 2008 and 09 correct?
I think by those years it was a CLK63 with the M156?
@@mguytv So is that engine just as reliable as the 113k? If so why? I'm looking at the CLK now and I need to know as much as I can about it. Anymore info would truly help me a lot. Thx.
M156🤠 with the 7Gtronic🤓🤓, free revving and quick, nevertheless the tone, brute power from the longer gears from the m113K...thank you... im looking to compare the m271 and the new amg 4 cyl engine. any info abvice welcome, will be using my 13 c250amg as YT model. really enjoy your content
~AconcernedHaitian
Thanks for watching!
Where can the engine number be found
Mm13k
M156...
You forgot about M156 numbers which are better.
Power’s about the same in my cars, although M156 can go much higher. Torque down from 700Nm in M113K to 600Nm in M156
@@mguytv I thought about missing engine number from 7:26 :D
Ah sorry it’s now in a pinned comment!!
The m113 is bulletproof and the other one is the problem child
This man sold a 507.
He did indeed…
Have you ever considered the purposes of each of these cars the 113 engines the vast majority are driven by old men 5 miles per hour below the speed limit vs speed nuts who require performance
Haha! Maybe a little binary in your analysis!
Bro so your saying the 55 has more hp stock than the 63 ...it’s not 463 whp it 517 WHP stock but the 2005 SL 500 is 500 hp 🤔...you lost a subscriber fuxk noo I’m gone why would they make the older models faster than the newer 1 doesn’t make sense
The first M156 in the C63 only had 451HP. The M113K in the ‘55 was quoted at 460 but was actually closer to 490. So yes, stock M113K in the SL55 had more than the first version of the M156 in the C63.
Idk my cls is pushing 500 stock I haven’t done anything to it 2020 wide bdy scat are pushing 470 to 480 ish and I gapped him so idk# but I love your cars dnt mind me # but depending on how healthy your motor is varies whp as well jus saying
@@amgmeplzsayso7878 🤡
@@TYLERTRANCE Tyler the transgender go comment somewhere else & get tf off my comments I have both cars I can say what I want 🖕🏽
@@amgmeplzsayso7878 🤡