Hey Jonathan if you want information on that bus you need to get ahold of the bus Grease Monkey on TH-cam he's extremely knowledgeable on these buses and can tell you anything you need to know
I worked for a city transit bus company for 30 years and am familiar with this style of old GMC buses since we still had a few similar to this when I started working there in 1973 although ours were later 1950's 4512 and 5103 models. They had 6-71 Detroit engines and a v-drive tranny. Yep you can remove the complete engine cradle. Unhook the 2 rear hangers at the top and 2 motor mounts at the bottom of the firewall. Of course you have to unhook the driveshaft and coolant lines running to the heater, fuel lines, wiring, etc but I know you already know that. Did that quite a few times in my early years working there for engine replace or rebuild. Much easier to rebuild one out of the bus than in it. And yes I am old. LOL
Felony was an American new wave and rock band formed in Los Angeles, California, in the early 1970s by brothers Jeffrey Scott Spry (Lead Vocals), Joseph Anthony Spry (Guitars and Vocals), and brothers Danny Sands (Piano and Keyboards) and Steve Sands (Sound Engineer). Members: Jeff Spry and Joe Spry Labels: Rock 'n Roll Records Origin: Los Angeles, California Genres: New wave
Being somewhat of a bus nut since the late seventies, I can probably furnish a bit of info on this one. As it is is a TGH 3102 series, this means it was a gas powered unit from the factory, and is a transit bus. Were it a diesel, it would be a TDH. Transit and suburban service buses from the period before the PD3751 aren't in demand, largely because they have no baggage bays under the floor. The H indicates Hydromatic transmission. This one is likely from the late forties or early fifties.. Although the following of buses has changed very much in the last 40 years, people determined to convert them to RVs always gravitate to diesels, and most also look at continued parts availability. Since GM has not built highway coaches since the eighties, body parts are problematic, but can be found as a rule. Probably the best use for this would be to salvage the sheet metal for future use, pull the engine and transmission, and scrap the rest. By the way, GM coaches with transverse engines would have the transmission on the curb side, and the engine ran counter clockwise. The one you have would have standard rotation, probably because that was how the engines were available in gas powered.
I drove one of these in the seventies for a bus company still using them. They had 54's and 55's. I thought they were fun to drive. Brings back a lot of memories.
Felony was an American new wave and rock band formed in Los Angeles, California, in the early 1970s by brothers Jeffrey Scott Spry (Lead Vocals), Joseph Anthony Spry (Guitars and Vocals), and brothers Danny Sands (Piano and Keyboards) and Steve Sands (Sound Engineer).
True fact about Von Dutch’s (Ken Howard’s) bus.. he had everything inside electrified as a crude method of anti-theft. He was quite the odd person but very talented.
Pretty cool old bus. I would think that there has got to be a bus collector out there, who would love to have it. Thanks for entertaining us. Looking forward to the next one.
Felony #1 was outta California in the early 80,s. It wasn't my kinda tunes but they did ok for a while. Got a record deal and made a couple of albums, strange guys but everyone was trying to find themselves in the 80s. Crazy 80,s. Lol
really love old stuff like that bus & all the other things that happen upon your way. I was kinda wondering what it would look like given a good pressure washing. Wish I was close enough to do it for you. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, I know that would be quite the job. I took a bicycle trip when I was 38. Went from east Ny to Wichita Ka. I got stuck in Indianapolis, In& I ended up finding work at a local GmM dealership where I washed over 300 cars in 2 1/2 days. Those '95 Firebirds are long cars.
Drove a bus like this in the 70’s was a 35 ft with Detroit diesel and Alison auto with air suspension. Great drive. Loved changing the pancakes and bleeding the air tanks in winter.
Felony was an American New Wave rock band that was formed in 1974 by lead vocalist Jeffrey Scott Spry, his brother, Joseph Anthony Spry on guitar and vocals, and brothers Danny and Steve Sands, on piano/keyboards, and sound engineering, respectively. Their biggest hits were Gangsters of Rock (1981), The Fanatic (1983), The Pied Piper (1983), and I'm No Animal (1986). They broke up in 1991.
Got a friend who had a old pusher bus, pulled out the drivetrain replaced it with a wood fired b-b-q smoker. Turned the coach into a kitchen. He would tow it to do catering gigs.
333 is last three digits Johnathan :) excellent find for sure on that old bus also need bath for sure and remember those as town bus my area years ago ! Plus Grey Hound used them even my one Aunt Elva used for school bus!
Vary cool!! As a kid I lived in a junkyard, and had a big sand pile to play in right infront of a bus just like this. It was a old city bus from the area from the 50's. Lots of good memorys playing in that thing as a kid!!
TGH3102 serial numbers 0350-0354 were delivered to Columbus Transit Co (Columbus, OH) in September 1954. Road numbers were 201-205, so the 682 stencil is a mystery.
As a boy back in the 50,s, used to ride buses like this to school and around town (Toledo) ...no air, damn little heat... noisy and smelly ... my first taste of freedom, loved em.
i love old busses there's just something about them that makes em so unique . to own one would be so cool. i even like them real small ones. and this one is a gem for sure. love it.
Felony was an American new wave and rock band formed in Los Angeles, California, in the early 1970s by brothers Jeffrey Scott Spry (Lead Vocals), Joseph Anthony Spry (Guitars and Vocals), and brothers Danny Sands (Piano and Keyboards) and Steve Sands (Sound Engineer).
If searching for jeff and joe spry on google it comes up with an old thread on NWOUTPOST.COM a user called felonybaby says shes jeffs daughter, seems he killed himself some years back, Shes put her email up in there wanting info on the band.
Oh man don't screw with the bus...american pickers found grateful dead first roadie van and got a bazillion dollars for resto of it and donate to rock roll hall of. Fame
@@rsprockets7846 Hopefully you are being sarcastic because you are way off on your story there. They supposedly "found" Aerosmith's first van and had it restored to drivable condition. they might have achieved about a 3K profit when all was said and done
I live in Cincinnati and a few years back there was an incident just across the river in northern KY in which a man died in a fire. He'd been associated with a touring band years earlier and their bus ended up sitting on his property. I don't think it was still roadworthy, but apparently he enjoyed sitting in it sometimes, maybe reliving the good old days. Somehow it caught fire while he was in it and he did not make it out before being overcome.
OK, my BIL is retired bus mechanic. He started in the 60's working on "Silver Sides" which this is one of. The power ranged depending on if municipal transport in hill country (say San Francisco) vs flat land. 2-71 was sort of minimum average spec. But Silver Side GM Coaches are worth something because they were so well built. Advertise it on FB Marketplace and someone will pay you and come get it :-)
The GM "Old Look" TDH-3102 probably once had a DD 6-71 engine in it T = transit bus = diesel = hydraulic (automatic) transmission = 28 feet (8.5 m) 02 = Series About 1,605 where build between 1953-1963
Sad looking old girl ya got there. Poor thing. Love the design of the front. Very cool if she could stick around a little longer. I bet just pressure washing would do wonders in the opinion of her category lol.
Now, I know you have a lot on your plate, but this beast ought to run & drive at least one more time. Bus Grease Monkey is more into Detroit powered buses but if you can get a hold of him he might at least know someone interested in saving it or helping with you saving it, if not interested himself.
I wish we lived closer I’d pick up that bus. There was an old show called the Honeymooners and that’s a smaller version of Jackie Gleason’s bus. It would be fun to do a replica of the mooners bus.
Ha...I think there's a chance that a brick is more aerodynamic.....with the v6 it had to get like 2 miles to the gallon lol. I knew an old man, dead and gone now, bought a 1962 1 ton gmc flatbed dually with the v6 brand new. He thought it was around 5 miles to the gallon. Back in 1962 it cost too much to run he said. Said he sold it a year later.. so it sounds like you may be able to find a home for it given what you came up with on #s of known buses out there. Thanks for sharing
I think Nana needs to do a cat scan and give you her opinion, that cat has good judgement 😼👌
That's a great project bus! I wish I had the place to sit it.
What a fantastic cool old bus. I really hope someone (hint hint) gets it running again.
Thanks, and Meow to Ninja Catscan.
The bus has always run , I couldn’t get it by myself ,but it has , I’ve driven it !
Jeeeeze. This recovery is piece of cake. Compared to the crane😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Johnathanville has a city bus system!
JW needs a haz mat crew in there
"Jonathanville", very appropriate name for your corner of the town!
Hey Jonathan if you want information on that bus you need to get ahold of the bus Grease Monkey on TH-cam he's extremely knowledgeable on these buses and can tell you anything you need to know
If Grease Monkey don’t know, nobody knows!
I agree. Scott knows a lot about GMC early 50's buses.
I agree...Scott, the Bus Grease Monkey, and his son, Tyler, (TH-cam channel Indiana Diesel) would be the folks to talk to.
Plus he is a really cool guy and humble like you.
Or Bus Old Man Phil. Him or Scott either one.
Bus Grease Monkey is the man to get a hold of for old buses
1:10 Yes Von Dutch was a very famous pin striper.
His signature was the flying eyeball.
"Between 4 and 6 dollars". You got a legit, for real LOL on that one Jonathan.
He's gonna get a vajillion views with just the power washing
Bus for every seat!
He was so impressed with himself with that lame joke he had to use it twice!
@@4thstooge75 No one forces you to watch his videos, you know.
"Where are you going Jonathan?" - "I'm off to catch a bus."
And this bus is valued between $4-6 dollars 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 give nana some hugs and kisses for me ❤️
"Put a coat of paint on it and it'll look like it has a new coat of paint." Andrew Camarata 2021
A big part of American History. When G.M. was a giant.
I worked for a city transit bus company for 30 years and am familiar with this style of old GMC buses since we still had a few similar to this when I started working there in 1973 although ours were later 1950's 4512 and 5103 models. They had 6-71 Detroit engines and a v-drive tranny. Yep you can remove the complete engine cradle. Unhook the 2 rear hangers at the top and 2 motor mounts at the bottom of the firewall. Of course you have to unhook the driveshaft and coolant lines running to the heater, fuel lines, wiring, etc but I know you already know that. Did that quite a few times in my early years working there for engine replace or rebuild. Much easier to rebuild one out of the bus than in it. And yes I am old. LOL
Jonathan I am constantly amazed at how you turn trash into treasure this one will try you
Felony was an American new wave and rock band formed in Los Angeles, California, in the early 1970s by brothers Jeffrey Scott Spry (Lead Vocals), Joseph Anthony Spry (Guitars and Vocals), and brothers Danny Sands (Piano and Keyboards) and Steve Sands (Sound Engineer).
Members: Jeff Spry and Joe Spry
Labels: Rock 'n Roll Records
Origin: Los Angeles, California
Genres: New wave
Thank you
Interesting
I found a couple felony videos on TH-cam . Lmao, I grew up in the 70s and 80s. The videos took me back to jr high. Loafers, tie die jeans and a polo.
Is anyone else picturing the movie 'Almost Famous'?
Any pictures of the bus on the videos?
THAT OLD GIRL is still solid enough to and intact to preserve and restore to road-worthy condition. What a find!
True, but it's gonna cost a lotta dollars to fully restore it. Someone out there with deep pockets would be the perfect benefactor.
That looks like a great project for someone. Definitely worth saving.
looks like a great project for "someone else".
Aerodynamic as a brick.... LOL good one Jon!!
Hey they called the SPACE shuttles flying brivks
My mom rode this type of bus every work day downtown in 50s and 60s
About as aerodynamic as a cab over tractor. Yeah, like trying to push a brick down the highway, beating the driver to death with every pothole.
As areodynamic as a loaf of bread 🍞
several people I know have purchased trucks and buses to overhaul. still sitting in same spots. I am pleased that you actually fix old iron up
Pontiac MI. Truck and Coach. Many a friend of mine as well as my brother worked at that plant. Gone now..
Another amazing history lesson from Jonathan !
Being somewhat of a bus nut since the late seventies, I can probably furnish a bit of info on this one. As it is is a TGH 3102 series, this means it was a gas powered unit from the factory, and is a transit bus. Were it a diesel, it would be a TDH. Transit and suburban service buses from the period before the PD3751 aren't in demand, largely because they have no baggage bays under the floor. The H indicates Hydromatic transmission. This one is likely from the late forties or early fifties..
Although the following of buses has changed very much in the last 40 years, people determined to convert them to RVs always gravitate to diesels, and most also look at continued parts availability. Since GM has not built highway coaches since the eighties, body parts are problematic, but can be found as a rule. Probably the best use for this would be to salvage the sheet metal for future use, pull the engine and transmission, and scrap the rest. By the way, GM coaches with transverse engines would have the transmission on the curb side, and the engine ran counter clockwise. The one you have would have standard rotation, probably because that was how the engines were available in gas powered.
Yeah I say 1955
If it's still structurally sound there's no reason to scrap it.
I drove one of these in the seventies for a bus company still using them. They had 54's and 55's. I thought they were fun to drive. Brings back a lot of memories.
Hard to believe how easy it came out your tow trucks that did some good form good thing the wheels we're not froze up
Felony was an American new wave and rock band formed in Los Angeles, California, in the early 1970s by brothers Jeffrey Scott Spry (Lead Vocals), Joseph Anthony Spry (Guitars and Vocals), and brothers Danny Sands (Piano and Keyboards) and Steve Sands (Sound Engineer).
I am sure everyone is curious how Their Bus Ended up in The woods of North Carolina!
Had to have been County boys.
True fact about Von Dutch’s (Ken Howard’s) bus.. he had everything inside electrified as a crude method of anti-theft. He was quite the odd person but very talented.
why did he have the need for a lathe inside if he was doing pinstriping?
@@darrelturner9760 he made small hand guns also.
Code enforcement also came after him too
@@brandonoswald2392 thank you
Aren't we all in some way or another?
Pretty cool old bus. I would think that there has got to be a bus collector out there, who would love to have it. Thanks for entertaining us. Looking forward to the next one.
Rock and roll hall of. Fame
This is a great find...not many of these buses left out there. Make a great camper.
Felony #1 was outta California in the early 80,s. It wasn't my kinda tunes but they did ok for a while. Got a record deal and made a couple of albums, strange guys but everyone was trying to find themselves in the 80s. Crazy 80,s. Lol
really love old stuff like that bus & all the other things that happen upon your way. I was kinda wondering what it would look like given a good pressure washing. Wish I was close enough to do it for you. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, I know that would be quite the job. I took a bicycle trip when I was 38. Went from east Ny to Wichita Ka. I got stuck in Indianapolis, In& I ended up finding work at a local GmM dealership where I washed over 300 cars in 2 1/2 days. Those '95 Firebirds are long cars.
Looks in good shape, nice project for when the crane is fiinished.
We had those as city buses from the mid-'60s to the mid-'70s. They had GMC 478 "Roto-Flow" diesel V6s.
Drove a bus like this in the 70’s was a 35 ft with Detroit diesel and Alison auto with air suspension. Great drive. Loved changing the pancakes and bleeding the air tanks in winter.
From four to six dollars to forty-six dollars is pretty good ROI Jonathan. 😂 That's a real beauty you picked up. Hope someone can rescue it.
Jonathan you made laugh worth 4/ 6 dollars. Nice bus tho. You could go one better put a steam engine in it .
J spent more in fuel than bus is worth.
That wrecker still looks great. Must have been built by a guy that knows what he is doing. Great video thanks for sharing.
Aww this recovery was way too easy
🤣 LMAO. "this one's valued between 4 and 6 dollars..". Lol
I have a 56 Chevy tandem which was a fire department tanker with a huge mechanical disc parking brake on it which I thought unusual for 1956.
Let's see how many time the same 3 pieces of information {comments} can be repeated. Anyway, another great video JW.
It all starts with a good tidy and pressure wash. Cool rig for sure.
With the history of the bus and how unique and cool it is, I would suggest bringing it back, for your Felony #1 bus. Onward
Missing parts there were handrails down from roof over seats so standees had a grab rail seats were sticky and whole bus stunk of smokes and Diesel
Made me laugh out loud a couple times with your commentary. You’re a funny man and that’s a very good thing. Thanks Johnathan.
Felony was an American New Wave rock band that was formed in 1974 by lead vocalist Jeffrey Scott Spry, his brother, Joseph Anthony Spry on guitar and vocals, and brothers Danny and Steve Sands, on piano/keyboards, and sound engineering, respectively. Their biggest hits were Gangsters of Rock (1981), The Fanatic (1983), The Pied Piper (1983), and I'm No Animal (1986). They broke up in 1991.
I would love to see this running and restored :) what a beauty! Xxx
*Jonathan and the gearheads* tour bus! 😂
Got a friend who had a old pusher bus, pulled out the drivetrain replaced it with a wood fired b-b-q smoker. Turned the coach into a kitchen. He would tow it to do catering gigs.
Theres always someone out there looking for a money pit like that,it'll be a nice money pit.
Call gas monkey he buys pos
333 is last three digits Johnathan :) excellent find for sure on that old bus also need bath for sure and remember those as town bus my area years ago ! Plus Grey Hound used them even my one Aunt Elva used for school bus!
You are a pleasure to listen to, I love it, keep up the good work...
Vary cool!! As a kid I lived in a junkyard, and had a big sand pile to play in right infront of a bus just like this. It was a old city bus from the area from the 50's. Lots of good memorys playing in that thing as a kid!!
Jonathan, I would love to see you get the bus going. Please don’t let it get scraped. It’s just so cool 😎.
Ahh Jonathan. Save the bus please. Redo engine and clean it up. Then you can sell her. Ugh. You’re the best!! 💜
TGH3102 serial numbers 0350-0354 were delivered to Columbus Transit Co (Columbus, OH) in September 1954. Road numbers were 201-205, so the 682 stencil is a mystery.
Route number?
@@chuckstith838 Road number. Like on a Locomotive. They may call it something different on transit buses.
Wish that was in my town!!
I’d drop a twin turbo 4bt in that guy. Would make an awesome RV!!❤️❤️❤️
Too far gone.....a real money pit. Best be a banker if you want it.
I am referring to a full RV restoration $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Wow!
Boy if I wasn't disabled now and unable to work on stuff anymore...I would love to have that bus. It has so much potential.
As a boy back in the 50,s, used to ride buses like this to school and around town (Toledo) ...no air, damn little heat... noisy and smelly ... my first taste of freedom, loved em.
i love old busses there's just something about them that makes em so unique . to own one would be so cool. i even like them real small ones. and this one is a gem for sure. love it.
Power wash it for the next bus video!
Would be interesting to see what happens to this bus. What a find! 👍
That thing is beautiful. Super cool!
Felony was an American new wave and rock band formed in Los Angeles, California, in the early 1970s by brothers Jeffrey Scott Spry (Lead Vocals), Joseph Anthony Spry (Guitars and Vocals), and brothers Danny Sands (Piano and Keyboards) and Steve Sands (Sound Engineer).
If searching for jeff and joe spry on google it comes up with an old thread on NWOUTPOST.COM a user called felonybaby says shes jeffs daughter, seems he killed himself some years back,
Shes put her email up in there wanting info on the band.
If it's the same group they had a minor hit with a song called "The Fanatic", circa early 1980's.
I bet Felony #1 was not the Felony band you mentioned. Be funny if it was.
Oh man don't screw with the bus...american pickers found grateful dead first roadie van and got a bazillion dollars for resto of it and donate to rock roll hall of. Fame
@@rsprockets7846 Hopefully you are being sarcastic because you are way off on your story there. They supposedly "found" Aerosmith's first van and had it restored to drivable condition. they might have achieved about a 3K profit when all was said and done
Illinois Railway Museum has a large bus collection they maybe able to help.
Felony was a rock band out of California from the early 70s until early 90s
Cool looking bus!!
Hi Jonathan...tx for this video...
That bus is pretty awesome. I can appreciate most old vehicles.
Awesome! I hope you have it ready for the next Cruise In!
No telling what he will pull home next, my favorite TH-cam channel
I don’t know how long it been here but it ain’t no more
Beautiful
Cool old City bus. Love it.
I live in Cincinnati and a few years back there was an incident just across the river in northern KY in which a man died in a fire. He'd been associated with a touring band years earlier and their bus ended up sitting on his property. I don't think it was still roadworthy, but apparently he enjoyed sitting in it sometimes, maybe reliving the good old days. Somehow it caught fire while he was in it and he did not make it out before being overcome.
"as aerodynamic as a brick"..so funny :-)
This was TGH3102-353 first owned by the Columbus Transit Company (OH) as coach 204. It was built in September 1954.
Looks like Ralph Kramden's bus !!!! From The Honeymooners!!!!
Jonathan, your tow truck pulled that bus out with no effort..
You're right, it's almost identical!
@@78chuck it just needs Jackie Gleason!
Hey Ralphie boy!
@@howardkoster4026 I hope for JW's sake it turns out to be the Gleason bus!
@@78chuck I hope so too! And awayyyy we go!
If it was still in California I would definitely scoop this bus up. Seems like most of the cool stuff is back east and down south. I’m in Oregon.
OK, my BIL is retired bus mechanic. He started in the 60's working on "Silver Sides" which this is one of. The power ranged depending on if municipal transport in hill country (say San Francisco) vs flat land. 2-71 was sort of minimum average spec. But Silver Side GM Coaches are worth something because they were so well built. Advertise it on FB Marketplace and someone will pay you and come get it :-)
That would make a good revival/ first start video. Nice find!
The GM "Old Look" TDH-3102 probably once had a DD 6-71 engine in it T = transit bus = diesel = hydraulic (automatic) transmission = 28 feet (8.5 m) 02 = Series About 1,605 where build between 1953-1963
It has " Had it" for sure.
Bus Grease Monkey commented to one of the posts on his channel about this bus that the G in the model number means it was gas powered.
Sad looking old girl ya got there. Poor thing.
Love the design of the front. Very cool if she could stick around a little longer.
I bet just pressure washing would do wonders in the opinion of her category lol.
Now, I know you have a lot on your plate, but this beast ought to run & drive at least one more time. Bus Grease Monkey is more into Detroit powered buses but if you can get a hold of him he might at least know someone interested in saving it or helping with you saving it, if not interested himself.
You find the coolest stuff!
👍👌👏 Simply fantastic, I love busses with rounded skylight windows.
I've never seen a drive line set up like that. I guess all pushers are configured that way, even on modern buses. Interesting👍
My family had old stake beds with that same engine. Big block V6 305.
I wish we lived closer I’d pick up that bus. There was an old show called the Honeymooners and that’s a smaller version of Jackie Gleason’s bus. It would be fun to do a replica of the mooners bus.
Ha...I think there's a chance that a brick is more aerodynamic.....with the v6 it had to get like 2 miles to the gallon lol. I knew an old man, dead and gone now, bought a 1962 1 ton gmc flatbed dually with the v6 brand new. He thought it was around 5 miles to the gallon. Back in 1962 it cost too much to run he said. Said he sold it a year later.. so it sounds like you may be able to find a home for it given what you came up with on #s of known buses out there. Thanks for sharing
Man, I'd love to see this road worthy again
I cant wait to see u drive this thing! With the 305 👍👍👍👍
I like to see you get it running and driving 🤠
if anyone can breathe life back into that old bus it is you
That bus is really in pretty good shape!
Really cool old bus. 👍
Awesome project Gitter done
I once toured the factory where that bus was built.
When the video first started and I saw that gas can sitting there, I thought you were going to try to get it running!
That would be an awesome rv conversion. If i didnt already have one id be all about this old gal!!
Yup, cool ol' rig. Needs lots of love.
I always thought that that style of bus was diesel. Now I can rest easy...
Loving this!
Great looking project for someone