Just Whisky 🥃: Little News and BIG Rant… Less than Spectacular prices😳
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- Laphroaig Cairdeas 2024 @ 52.4%
10 year “ Cask Favorites “
Ex bourbon
Quarter casks(6 months)
PX sherry finish
Just News : Less than “ Spectacular “ prices… RANT !
/ justwhisky
Yes it has become a luxury product. No question.
Yup!
Pure clickbait John 😃I can't resist a juicy rant as you well know. And a rant about prices too. This is definitely my cup of tea. Even before we get on to the main rant I'm ranting. Laproaig 😠🤬 Whisky Lock and I have pointed out a number of times why this distillery frustrates us so much. It's an entirely Love/Hate situation. The 10 year at 40% over here. WTF is that all about? It's an insult. Furthermore, I have never tasted any Cairdeas ever. Unless your willing to fork out 100 smackeroos it can't be had. and it's not always easy to find. The 10 cask strength is the only bottle I'll buy now and let's not get excited about the price. No 10 year old whisky, even bottled at cask strength, should cost anywhere near £100. It's a £65 bottle. Over the years the independently bottled Laphroaig has been blowing away the distillery bottles. If they bottled the standard 10 at 46%, as they obviously should, they would have an instant winner.
That kind of leads into the rant. Overpricing - My God. Whisky and (now) rum prices are obscene. I've been moaning about the decline of quality and the increase in prices for years. When a whisky powerhouse like Glenlivet - hardly short of a penny or two - scrapped the 12 to be replaced by that abomination of a NAS the writing was on the wall. "It's what's in the bottle that matters" we were all told. Anyone else notice how Ardbeg's core NAS range is rubbish compared to what it used to be and we hardly talk about it any more? Crummy, overused, casks are the rage these days, hence the increased use of STR casks and all manner of stupid finishes to salvage something and then market it as intelligent blending. You shouldn't hesitate to call it out John. Ardbeg have been taking the piss by insulting and exploiting their loyal fan base for years. Even that bottle that you think is better value costs more than the 10. Why? It's just another rip-off. Ardbeg's parent company, LVMH, are marketing all their vast range of companies as premium and aspirational. Glenmorangie are in the same boat too. It's not like these companies are hanging on by the skin of their teeth: They are making a killing at our idiotic expense.
It's bad enough that the stuff isn't very good but i's not even mediocre and cheap. There's so much overpriced mediocrity on the market. Unfortunately, the greed of the whisky owners, has been fuelled by the fact that so many people continue to keep buying when they should boycott. I'm never going to buy a bottle of Talisker 18 again; Or Glendronach 18, Lagavulin 12, Oban 14, anything by Balblair and Old Pulteny, anything by Balvenie, anything by Bowmore, anything by Ardbeg that costs more than the 10 year, anything by Mortlach, and the list just goes on and on. We are being ripped-off and insulted on a massive scale and the only way to stop it is by refusing to buy it until they bring their prices down.
The quality of independent bottles of whisky has crashed and the price soared. Dozens of new distilleries opened to join in the gold rush and justifying the ridiculous prices of their four year old whisky - "It's what's in the bottle" we hear as we become more and more accustomed to drinking average whisky for top dollar prices.
Agreed about Foursquare too. Years ago, Ralfy and I agreed that good as it is it's a generic Barbados flavour profile. None of the fancy bottles have ever been better than the 12 ex-bourbon, in my opinion. The best options are shop only exclusives. None of them are worth more than £75 a bottle. Decent bourbon stopped being a working man's drink some years ago. I'm talking decent bourbon which cost under 20 dollars. It's even more outrageous when you consider the history of rum that it has become a luxury product for the rich. I hate that. There's still good whisky out there but you have to hunt around for good prices.
Yours was a very polite rant and I apologise for my mega-rant. You're quite right though. Stop buying it and dip in to the gigantic stash. I'm fed up and I'm going back to wine. I love whisky but I refuse to be exploited and treated like a jerk by these companies. WT
Ok Welsh… let me settle into my recliner with a dram while I ponder….Cairdeas @ $90 in my area and last years White Port/Madeira was one of my favs…yes we are lucky to have Laphroaig 10 & Glenmo 10 @ 43%
Agree the best core Ardbegs for me were 2017/18
Bizarre bbq compared to all their other special releases is a relative bargain 😳 still puzzled as to why🧐
Surprised by your disdain for Balblair … I find the 12 yr good value and enjoyable…
Old Pultney 18 is a nice bottle but I bought it at 2019 priced…
Agree about boycotting Oban, Glendronach and I never connected with Balvenie anyway. And Bowmore core range is a joke.
Indies are shooting up in price as well but there are some hidden gems out there…
Let me get another dram now so I can respond to your part two😅😇
As always Welch, appreciate your passionate comments.
Cheers 🥃
I have to admit that I often scan the comments for a good WT rant😉. Well said, good sir, well said.
@@saschaoswald480 😍I enjoyed that one. Got some stuff off my chest but I don't think what I said is unreasonable.
Prices will come down but we have to stop buying.
@@Watchman999 exactly 👍
The last Lagavulin Offerman edition was £70 here in the UK. The latest edition is £90. That's a huge price increase, and I refuse to pay it. There has to be a limit.
We all have our own comfort zone price wise….and need to keep ourselves in check as to how much do we really need.
Cheers 🥃
Great video. Always tough to hear about prices. Thank you for sharing. In my market the Offermans are usually not to bad in price and I've enjoyed them. That one, I may just buy. Cheers!
Thanks for tuning in… I’m at the point now where less is more… Offermans have been relative good value and quite enjoyable! One of my annual treats for sure!
Cheers 🥃
The prices are insane. I admit I do splurge on my favourite scotch whiskies - Lagavulin 16, 12, 11, Ardbeg’s, Laphroaig, etc. Love peated whisky. I do wish prices were lower overall.
Maybe Ardbeg through us a bone with Bizarre bq price wise for us common folk🤣😇
For me there are simply way too many releases to keep up with world wide that these contemporary exorbitant prices make it an easy pass for me.
Always appreciate your commentary 🙏
Cheers 🥃
@@justwhisky Agreed John! Way too many releases and ridiculously expensive. Yes Bizarre BQ is a gift!! 🙂
100%. Despite the gimmicks, the Offermans have been pretty consistently worth the price. I've found I also am resisting the overpriced special release stuff just because it's still sitting around on the shelves and holding out for better value. Cheers!
Agree Offermans are good value comparatively. If those were in Ardbegs camp they’d be a hundred bucks more 😅
Cheers 🥃
A gentleman's rant, one might say. Well done, you. I'm a Weebeastie man, myself. It's a solid ABV, price, and flavor. BUT I don't go for their off shoots so much until I watch a review of it OR I'm over at one of the Scotch Test Dummie's homes and try it over there. Cheers to ya!
Thanks so much Charlie and Jean,
Agree… I have no problem with Ardbeg core range but geeez they are really taking the piss outta their “ special releases “ price wise.
Thanks for good friends in high places 😇
Cheers 🥃
I'm with you on your rant. Recently had a taste of the 14yr Foursquare and another Foursquare , while the quality was great they were just too expensive. P.S. Always good to see one of the Cats photo bomb the video, Cheers!
Thanks Rob 🙏 yeah in a way I’m relieved to see price hikes… makes purchasing decisions much easier.
Hazel was in rare form today for sure😻
Cheers 🥃
Once Ardbeg 10 hit $70 in my area I stopped buying it, I only pickup cask strength at or above that price, and I have been going back to blends in the last couple of years.
I can’t argue with that strategy . Setting limits is a healthy approach.
Cheers 🥃
Don't get mad at the distillers, everything is going up due to supply lines that were severely disrupted during Covid while the worth of your dollar/quid keeps dropping. Or let's just say, what hasn't gone up?
Point well taken… what triggers me is the inequities with certain distilleries like Ardbeg where their core 10 yr is $60, Bizarre bbq NAS 50.9% @ $85 and many NAS @ 46% @ $140 and up… defies logic !!! But the kool-aid drinkers soak anything and everything thrown at them no matter the cost.
And then there is Macallan and Diageo and others following suit…with smoke and mirrors.
I understand inflation but not extortion.
Cheers 🥃
a VERY civilized rant, indeed . . . i only buy blends now, to vatt with my old stock from 1991-1999 with high ABV . . . hobbies have their limits, aye , just whiskies !
Thanks 🙏
I reached my limit for sure 👍
Cheers 🥃
Oh Port Charlottecand Bruichladdich too! I just ordered an Anamorphic from Ardbeg and if you think scotch is insanely priced where you are - try Canada!! Yikes! But I splurge in moderation. I almost always live Lagavulin and Ardbeg - can’t go wrong. Looking forward to the new Cairdeas.
I like that … “Splurge in moderation “
I might borrow that 😇
That’s kinda where I’m at now… asking myself is it a must buy…
Cheers 🥃
@@justwhisky Isn't it great?!
I think it's pretty evident that Ardbeg makes a lot of profit on their special releases...with that being said I still love the Ardbeg10 ,the Uigeadail and the Corryvreckan, So if that helps them keep the prices on the core range stable then so be it... I just don't buy into the hype, because the core is good enough for me.
Right on 👍
Cheers 🥃
Prices are out of control. I went all in the last 2 years buying anything and everything at any price, but now I think I have only bought a hand full bottles in 2024 because I realized prices are not slowing down as far as increases go and most are not worth the asking price. Time to slow down and be selective and not indulgent.
Wise words and action Peter! Well said! I can totally relate! Same here.
Cheers 🥃
Great take on the price screw jobs we the people simply can't justify spending that much money on a 750ml or 700ml bottle of spearets these days.
Thanks 🙏
Agree… too much is too much
Vote with your wallet!
Cheers 🥃
I just watched whiskyjasons bunna 12 CS 2021 video he said regular bunna 12yo is 35-40€ in Germany and CS is 80€ i think In Finland regular bunna 12yo is 82€ and bunna 12yo CS 125€ soo yeah.. i still think its worth it.
Im not buying any Ardbegs, Lagavulins, Laphroaigs those are almost all over 100€ easily plus we arent getting any laphroiag CS here anyway..
Appreciate the Bunna pricing… definitely a bargain near me…
I agree with boycotting Ardbeg and Lagavulin 12 & 16 but the Lagavulin 8 is only $50 and great value for money.
Laphroaig Cairdeas hover around $90 and are still a guilty pleasure for me…
Cheers 🥃
You really think Bunna 12 cask strength is worth it at 125? Don't believe the hype.
@@welshtoro3256 Bunna 12 cask strength are $85 in my area, which I feel is good value…