Yup and you need to make a lot more than just $100k to afford a $80-100k truck. More like $250k+ if youre actually smart with your money. Unless you have huge amount of trade-in equity to offset the cost, or unless it’s a complete tax writeoff 179.
@Jake S I got lucky when I traded in Mt 10year old pick up the dealer helped me and gave me 23k for my paid of truck it brought down the price of the 70k truck I purchased... it was the only way I was getting a new vehicle along with APR rate going in hand to have a payment under a G
@@leeoscar83 fair enough. I make good money but I think at this point in my life the most Id want to pay a month is like $600 which puts me at a $50k vehicle with my $15k trade in. Which realistically puts me in a CPO 2021 F150 XLT or something like the new 2023 Canyon AT4 they just released… decisions…
The 2023 has a nice look. I actually like the new front end and the bumper/bedside steps. We're really happy with our Godzilla 7.3. We've done several videos about MPG and towing with it.
@reggie7871 car thefts are everywhere right now with push button. Thieves use a signal repeater to get into and start the truck while your keys are in your house while sleeping
Ben I am very interested in the F250. I am reading about 2 issues: Lifter issue and front suspension extreme wobble. Would you know if these items have been rectified?
I prefer keyed ignition, glad to see it's still offered as I hate push to start and the key fobs, if I want to leave the car running I either use remote start or a second key to manually lock the door
Hopefully they get the cam delamination problems fixed. It's also disappointing to not see movable pedals on more vehicles. MFG act like it's a luxury item, when it's actually a safety item. Have a look at the short people behind the wheel and try to get recommended 10-11" between the wheel and the breastbone.
I’ve bought one and I don’t know if it worth it or not. I’ll tell ya what I do know. It’s sure fun to floor it. It reminds me of the muscle cars of my youth.
I think it looks good for the most part. I just don't like the side step. Understand why ford did it. I wish they would have made it an option. I also don't like the bumper step but that can easily be changed so it's not as big of an issue.
Hey I think 373s and 410s are better for all around driving. 430s great for pulling camper/loaded trailer but not normal driving . I know it’s hooked up to 10 speed or 6 speed transmission. Back in day 390s we’re the go to with gear reduction overdrive.
F250 and 350s came standard with 4.30 rear end. I had to special order mine with the 3.73 gears on my 2020 F350. The diesel comes standard with the 3.55 as they always have since 2011.
I have a lariat with the ultimate package on order. It will most likely never get built due to the ultimate package. I don’t want to make concessions on that expensive of a purchase. I want what I want and I guess I can’t have it.
are you joking ford? make a great looking exterior ugly, throw in a f150 interior, and of course charge more for it $56k truck before tax and you get halogen headlights. sad times
This is the video I was waiting for. Thank you. I’ll be waiting for the review on the fuel economy. You should compare the 7.3 vs 6.8 and let us know what you think 👍
You can actually make it look very cool with the sport pkg and if you don’t really care too much about all the extra stuff you can have a cool looking truck at a decent price. I don’t do much towing but I like the 8’ bed on a crew cab.
@@dantimber that’s all be design from marketing. They dial in the numbers exactly where they want it to be competitive, but not too competitive. Next time, GM will come back with 5-10 more hp. And so it will go till the end of time lol.
Again, if you do your research and "settle" for new '22 models, don't care about color and certain options, and have good credit, you can find good deals with 0% loans included. I know I did.
I like the ‘22 better. Idk, this redesign has to grow on me. Maybe once I start seeing more of them on the road. Also, Ford has been greedy for the last 2 years. Please do better all around Ford.
@@BenHardyCars This is what I can find online. Seems a significant change: "The truck gains new rotors and calipers and a six-piston hydraulic control unit to improve the stopping performance. Axles across the Super Duty line-up have been upgraded to accommodate higher towing and payload capability; the ring gear in the largest rear axle now measures 12.4 in. (315 mm). Exterior vehicle dimensions are essentially unchanged."
The tires are so disproportionately small for the truck and the truck itself doesn't even have remote start and no push button start which is generations behind.
Ben, your attorney friends have misinformed you. When sueing a business, any pay out often comes out of the business directly as many businesses are self insured.
The interior is a disaster: -Steering wheel buttons are now tiny and jammed together in tight, dense clusters. No ability to control things by feel, must always look down to use them -Climate control buttons are the same - tiny and jammed together, not intuitive -Buttons for 4wd. The knob used far less dash space and was more intuitive -Electric parking brake. Gross -Why the hell is the upper glove box release button all the way over there? -Tiny climate vents -The bin on top of the dash is now shallow and tiny. Anything in there is going to slide out and fall down the dash Glad I got the previous gen when I did. Wouldn't even consider this one
@@timdavison2417 got it. That’s different then a drive mode like ford has programmed into the different selections. The f150s, explorers, expedition and I believe mustang all have a select table drive mode option in the menu. Super duty doesn’t have the same type of option.
I couldn’t buy a Ford just because of those idiot looking gauges. No precision looks like a child’s toy… Why even have gauges? Just have one gauge if you’re not gonna be precise about it. But yeah definitely worth paying arm and a leg for. SMH
Take $10,000 and buy an original old body style 7.3 Put $20,000 into it and turn everyone’s heads! Then take the other $70,000 and put in the bank😂😂😂😂😁🤦🏻♂️
Do the 2022 bumper & bed fit this truck? That would be the first upgrade is to to dump the bumper & bed to get rid of the steps!!! Fordvreally F ed up with that ugly design!!!
if you went by auto industry pricing, it seems like 80% of America makes over 6 figures lol
And if you ask most gen z females they think most men make over 6 figures. Lol
LOL!
Yup and you need to make a lot more than just $100k to afford a $80-100k truck. More like $250k+ if youre actually smart with your money. Unless you have huge amount of trade-in equity to offset the cost, or unless it’s a complete tax writeoff 179.
@Jake S I got lucky when I traded in Mt 10year old pick up the dealer helped me and gave me 23k for my paid of truck it brought down the price of the 70k truck I purchased... it was the only way I was getting a new vehicle along with APR rate going in hand to have a payment under a G
@@leeoscar83 fair enough. I make good money but I think at this point in my life the most Id want to pay a month is like $600 which puts me at a $50k vehicle with my $15k trade in. Which realistically puts me in a CPO 2021 F150 XLT or something like the new 2023 Canyon AT4 they just released… decisions…
The 2023 has a nice look. I actually like the new front end and the bumper/bedside steps. We're really happy with our Godzilla 7.3. We've done several videos about MPG and towing with it.
Copied gm🤣
For the price of f150 might as well get this. 56k for a f250 and 65k for a f150 go figure
I love that you review lower end trims/packages as well. Thank you!
The front end of the new super duty is really unattractive. Shame, the last gen actually looked good.
The analog gauges are way better than the clownish digital bar graphs on the Larait!!
Love a truck with a key! That’s a benefit in my eyes!
I agree
@reggie7871 car thefts are everywhere right now with push button. Thieves use a signal repeater to get into and start the truck while your keys are in your house while sleeping
Oh hell no. Push button start or I move on. Same with headlights. LED headlights or I move on.
@Reggie because you don't have to worry about where your stupid remote is all the time
@@walkworthy well the key and remote are one unit! 🤦🏾♂
Ben I am very interested in the F250. I am reading about 2 issues: Lifter issue and front suspension extreme wobble. Would you know if these items have been rectified?
If everyone refuses to pay these insane prices , the auto companies will belly up and have to come down on pricing. STOP ENABLING THEM.
Oh bull 💩!
Companies don't have a choice. If your business needs a truck you have to buy a truck.
I prefer keyed ignition, glad to see it's still offered as I hate push to start and the key fobs, if I want to leave the car running I either use remote start or a second key to manually lock the door
Sorry had to cut you off during the commercial
But what about all the reports i’m seeing here online about the cam and lifters problems on these 7.3L’s between 30,000 to 40,000 miles?
Sound like being back memories 11 generation ford F-150
Fords gotta make a lower trim led headlight and housing its 2023 not 1940
Sticker price $56
F250 XLT wt
I’m interested 🤔
Hopefully they get the cam delamination problems fixed. It's also disappointing to not see movable pedals on more vehicles. MFG act like it's a luxury item, when it's actually a safety item. Have a look at the short people behind the wheel and try to get recommended 10-11" between the wheel and the breastbone.
I’ve bought one and I don’t know if it worth it or not. I’ll tell ya what I do know. It’s sure fun to floor it. It reminds me of the muscle cars of my youth.
Finally. A REAL TRUCK !!!!!!. Cheers.
Nice review but prefer the GMC with 5 Tonne frame 👌 Custom built 😉 will be over 100k but worth the price 😉
I think it looks good for the most part. I just don't like the side step. Understand why ford did it. I wish they would have made it an option. I also don't like the bumper step but that can easily be changed so it's not as big of an issue.
Nice to see Ford is now putting the 3.73 gearing on the F250 instead of the 3.55's
They also need 410s
@@josephpuchel6497 You can order them with 4:30's. Prior to '23, F250's came standard with 3:55, and the F350 came standard with 3:73.
Hey I think 373s and 410s are better for all around driving. 430s great for pulling camper/loaded trailer but not normal driving . I know it’s hooked up to 10 speed or 6 speed transmission. Back in day 390s we’re the go to with gear reduction overdrive.
F250 and 350s came standard with 4.30 rear end. I had to special order mine with the 3.73 gears on my 2020 F350. The diesel comes standard with the 3.55 as they always have since 2011.
I like a physical key , never was a fan of the push button.
They downsized the wheels?
My 2020 F250 XL came with 275/70R18
I love my 250 with the 8 foot bed it’s a monster.
The 7.3l is said to have cam phaser issues also. Would you test a 6.8l. Haven't seen any on the lot yet.
Lifters like to fall apart
@@bendino9016 On high idle houred engines. The delivery box vans mainly
Cam go's flat at about 35,000 miles. Like all ford's, its best to stay away.
It’s the same engine, just a slightly shorter stroke, and slightly higher compression ratio.
I have a lariat with the ultimate package on order. It will most likely never get built due to the ultimate package. I don’t want to make concessions on that expensive of a purchase. I want what I want and I guess I can’t have it.
No HD lights, you can send that back to the factory.
In white, the side step doesn't look like a cheap after thought compared to some of the other colors.
that rear bumper and bedside step are too high. I installed AMP research sidestep and now the rear bumper is next. Much easier to use.
I don't know why you think a heavy Duty truck should have a sports mode, or it is odd that it doesn't have one makes no sense it's a work truck
Where is the 2023 Super Duty with the 6.8L v8 (mini-Godzilla)?
I heard it’s in the Build 2 phase. Which should be starting next month
It only is available in the XL
Broken down around Albany.
are you joking ford? make a great looking exterior ugly, throw in a f150 interior, and of course charge more for it
$56k truck before tax and you get halogen headlights. sad times
I'd pay at least 43K for that truck.
Definitely worth it. More options than an F150 and likely less expensive and would be easier to sell.
Facts. 5.0 V8s F-150s in my neck of the woods (Illinois) are going for 70-80k
Most on the lot are the 2.7 V6 or 3.5L eco boost….
@@johnappleseed9290 Most $70K-80K+ trucks are on lots too because of the high interest rates and dealer markups. and F150's are pricey.
Nice! This truck is on my short list. Would like to know on which trims the fully digital IP screen is available...
This is the video I was waiting for. Thank you.
I’ll be waiting for the review on the fuel economy. You should compare the 7.3 vs 6.8 and let us know what you think 👍
6.8 is going to be for the boring fleet spec XL only. So most consumers won’t get it. Fleet purchasers won’t really care.
You can actually make it look very cool with the sport pkg and if you don’t really care too much about all the extra stuff you can have a cool looking truck at a decent price. I don’t do much towing but I like the 8’ bed on a crew cab.
@@alexs3187 I have 2020 xl 2wd with 7.3 for sale $42,000
@@alexs3187 The Ford 6.8L has more horsepower and torque than the Silverado/Sierra HD 6.6L gas V8.
@@dantimber that’s all be design from marketing. They dial in the numbers exactly where they want it to be competitive, but not too competitive. Next time, GM will come back with 5-10 more hp. And so it will go till the end of time lol.
Did you happen to see that Backdraft Cobra with the Godzilla motor? Insane!
Still waiting on the F-350 I ordered in Nov
Ive been looking but I haven't seen a 2023 in the wild yet. Nice truck.
Dude is it just me, but it looks like it has the dash of new 2024 chevy HD from passenger angle, with dodge shape center air vents
I love how ford still offers low tech cheap affordable trucks, especially as Chevy and ram quit and are all about the tech
Hey Ben nice video. That must be the only 2023 year they have. Don’t see any other listed on their website
Again, if you do your research and "settle" for new '22 models, don't care about color and certain options, and have good credit, you can find good deals with 0% loans included. I know I did.
does the tremor package add anything to that interior?
Trucks are too expensive. Regular people can never afford this!
I like the ‘22 better. Idk, this redesign has to grow on me. Maybe once I start seeing more of them on the road. Also, Ford has been greedy for the last 2 years. Please do better all around Ford.
57 grand for an XL is ridicules but a lot cheaper than my area.. the cheapest 23 F250 within 100 miles of my house is $68,000.
Pretty nice truck but in my opinion prices are still to high. A quote base truck at nearly 60k. It's a lot of truck but still..
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Try to get us a comparison a STX vs XLT premium package
Besides having an uglier grill, I think 2023 got new axles. Any info on those?
I’ll look into it
@@BenHardyCars This is what I can find online. Seems a significant change: "The truck gains new rotors and calipers and a six-piston hydraulic control unit to improve the stopping performance. Axles across the Super Duty line-up have been upgraded to accommodate higher towing and payload capability; the ring gear in the largest rear axle now measures 12.4 in. (315 mm). Exterior vehicle dimensions are essentially unchanged."
What is up with Ford’s design of the F150 and super duty. They’re getting ugly. The previous gen exterior looked so much better.
The tires are so disproportionately small for the truck and the truck itself doesn't even have remote start and no push button start which is generations behind.
You don't need remote start on the fob. The my Ford app lets you lock/unlock and start/stop
My 2020 F350 has remote start plus you can start it from the Ford app.
2023 Ford F-250 Super Duty XLT 75th Anniversary Edition Crew Cab 4X4!
Ford made the Super Duty much uglier than the prior gen. GMC and Chevys now look much better in my opinion
Cost is making me feel I can build one cheaper.
Ford never puts enough leave springs.
they copied GM with the steps, which are actully awesome for real world when loading and unloading......front end looks blah
Too false
Ben, your attorney friends have misinformed you. When sueing a business, any pay out often comes out of the business directly as many businesses are self insured.
The interior is a disaster:
-Steering wheel buttons are now tiny and jammed together in tight, dense clusters. No ability to control things by feel, must always look down to use them
-Climate control buttons are the same - tiny and jammed together, not intuitive
-Buttons for 4wd. The knob used far less dash space and was more intuitive
-Electric parking brake. Gross
-Why the hell is the upper glove box release button all the way over there?
-Tiny climate vents
-The bin on top of the dash is now shallow and tiny. Anything in there is going to slide out and fall down the dash
Glad I got the previous gen when I did. Wouldn't even consider this one
Badge says xlt but you call it xl? good price
I have my 58,000 miles 2020 F-250 XL STX 2wd 7.3 godzilla for sale. $42,000
Why do you keep saying base? This is an XLT not an XL a $10,000 difference.
Ford is way to boxy and filled with cheap plastic
Ben, you don't have to say "thee" instead of the all "the" time. Besides that I do like your videos.
its already rusting 😂
56k good price.
Lariat next?
Although that truck is overpriced. It is only 7k more then a single cab XLT f150 lol.
Looks ready to waste gas for city fleets
There has never been a sport mode on a super duty. My 2020 F350 didnt have it either.
I have 3 2020,2021, and a 2022 7.3 and they all 3 have sport mode. Hit the traction control button twice
@@timdavison2417 does it say sport mode or advanced traction systems disabled ?
@@barrthom603 It says sport mode, Have to push traction control button twice fast, than it comes up in screen sport mode on dash
@@timdavison2417 got it. That’s different then a drive mode like ford has programmed into the different selections. The f150s, explorers, expedition and I believe mustang all have a select table drive mode option in the menu. Super duty doesn’t have the same type of option.
@@barrthom603 Lol Ya they pretty much hid that feature in the super duties. I found it by error. Lol
I couldn’t buy a Ford just because of those idiot looking gauges. No precision looks like a child’s toy… Why even have gauges? Just have one gauge if you’re not gonna be precise about it. But yeah definitely worth paying arm and a leg for. SMH
Take $10,000 and buy an original old body style 7.3
Put $20,000 into it and turn everyone’s heads!
Then take the other $70,000 and put in the bank😂😂😂😂😁🤦🏻♂️
Thumbs down for ambulance chasing ad.
Who would want that truck lol. Like honestly it has no features just an inflated price tag. Keep your old trucks.
Pls slow down when talking thanks
Bumper steps🤦♂️
If you don't own it, and drive it... Don't Review it !
Do the 2022 bumper & bed fit this truck? That would be the first upgrade is to to dump the bumper & bed to get rid of the steps!!! Fordvreally F ed up with that ugly design!!!
They ruined the front end
No they didn't
Stupid price…what a Sham.
Basic work truck
Am I the only one who thinks 2023 looks ugly?
No push start!🙄
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