Was Molly O'Shea PREGNANT? Red Dead Redemption 2 Theory!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2023
- Red Dead Redemption 2 is known for its complex characters, and Molly O'Shay is no exception. In this video, we explore the intriguing theory surrounding Molly's potential pregnancy. While the game doesn't explicitly confirm it, there are subtle clues and context that leave the possibility open. We delve into Molly's life, her relationships, and her tragic journey, shedding light on why this theory adds depth to her character. Join us in investigating the mysteries of Molly O'Shay's story and share your thoughts in the comments. Don't forget to subscribe for more thought-provoking Red Dead Redemption 2 content. Let's unravel this enigma together!
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in a way, karen and molly are foils of each other. karen is “low class” but seems to not care and is able to be herself, while molly considers herself high class and is constantly struggling with her identity in the gang and the world at large. the one realm in which molly seems to be able to be honest with herself is in regards to her feelings for dutch; meanwhile, it’s obvious that karen loved sean (from their sweet camp scenes + it’s after his death that we see her drinking really increase), but she’s unable to be honest with him in the way that molly is able to with dutch. you could even say that when karen screams, “she was in love!” she’s talking about herself, too: not only is she yelling at grimshaw, she’s yelling at the whole way of life, and mourning her own loss.
what a game. truly unmatched storytelling.
I wish we could had a mission with molly in saint dennis the same way we did with the others in the other towns
I don't think we got a mission with Peirson either. I know he got a few cut scenes during different missions but I don't count those.
@@iceluvndiva21there is a side mission where you can go with pearson to hunt for crawfish and gator eggs. but that's the only time arthur and pearson hang out together.
molly was supposed to be in the gilded cage mission. there is cut dialogue from her. and she was supposed to wear a fancy dress. so she originally had more screentime but it was cut. it's a shame too because molly is an underused character. so her appearance in this mission would have added more to her story.
Same everytime they would have a mission of her we would get interrupted by dutch or uncle and it isn't even a molly mission they keep avoiding her
It's also important to pay attention at the simbolism on how each character dies. She died to a shot in the gut. Not a headshot, not stabbed, not decapitaded. A gut shot. A wound that would directly hit a prossible baby. One that may or may not still be in her womb
Huh, good catch. Though grimshaw also gets a shot to the gut, possibly referencing how she was camp Mom/Grandma.
Dang never noticed can you explain other characters death simbolism
So would Sean’s dear mean he was a hothead
Hosea also got a shot to the gut
@@TheRedDeadRanger I believe Hosea was shot in the chest, that's why he died so fast even though he was hit with a low caliber, he was hit in the lungs. Lungs that were sick from a previous disease constantly shown in the previous chapters but never directly addressed
Molly is the only onscreen death of a gang member who doesn't have a grave to visit.
what about micah
@@astrov81 who?
He doesn't count 😂
@@astrov81 gang members not gang rats
@@astrov81that’s a fair enough point, even though he doesn’t have a grave either I think you can go back to his body after the epilogue when he died
6:10 you can listen to the dialogue, her body was burnt.
Molly slapping Karen and getting coldcocked in return never gets old.
Molly ironically was the real Karen all along
Even though she was stuck up (mainly due to her upbringing) I always felt sorry for Molly.
Same.. She didn't deserve that.
@@iceluvndiva21same she's the reason she got Lenny and Hosea killed but at the same time it's hard for me to hate her
@@JesG.She lied about telling the feds lmao
@@hotcheetosqueen5841 what do you mean Milton said that she was a traitor too
@@JesG.No, he said she never talked.
Note Grimshaw was also at somepoint prior to Molly with Dutch as a night lady
If she really was Ms grimshaw got that *DOUBLE KILL*
Damn 😂😂 True tho
@@TheThirdMeteorite😂
While it's possible she was pregnant I don't think that was a major factor. This is more a story about the slow decline of Dutch's judgment and mental state. It was easy to show Molly attention and love when things were going smooth before blackwater. Or at least relatively smooth but when things go wrong is when true colors come out. Dutch reminds me of many leaders in history who make sound choices and are charismatic when things are going to plan. Hitler, Mussolini, Saddam, all started out trusting and competent ( while certainly evil) became paranoid and impulsive as things started going wrong. Same with dutch.
Molly went from trusted confident to ignored and alone. The harder she tried to fix things the worse it got.
She could also be erratic from postpartum depression... if she had a child in secret and gave them away to someone she still got the hormonal chaos of having had a child so even if the child lived.... her behavior could coincide with all that
After having a baby a woman still looks 6 months pregnant because of the loose skin, I think it might’ve been noticeable and Molly looks normal in the game but you could still be right about that though
There were a lot of people she could have confided in that you haven’t considered. There is a scene at Shady Belle where Molly can be seen confiding in Abigail who basically informs her that Dutch’s relationship with her isn’t what Molly thinks it is. Molly angrily tells her that she doesn’t know anything about it to which Abigail replies ‘unfortunately, I do’. Abigail is a cold woman who will tell you the honest truth, even if it hurts. We see that with her attempts to comfort Sadie in chapter 2. Molly would have trusted to confide in Abigail who already had experience with pregnancy and with a father who was less than ideal and in difficult conditions. Abigail may not have had much respect for Molly, but she would have had enough foresight of the situation to know Molly was in a very bad predicament and wasn’t about to sugar coat it and give Molly a false sense of security. She could have told Swanson. We know Reverend Swanson sobered up after the events of the bank heist gone wrong, at the same time Karen went full into the bottle. I don’t think it’s just a coincidence. Being a preacher, Swanson would have been someone Molly could confide in and trust that he would keep her secret. Despite being a drunk and drug addict, he still valued the word of God. And if Molly had suffered a miscarriage that Swanson and Karen were both privy too, that could have been the catalyst for Swanson sobering up and for Karen falling fully into the bottle, more so than Hosea dying. It’s just a shame she never told Susan, who she could have confided in.
yeah, only reason that a woman could POSSIBLY be "overly-emotional" is because she's pregnant and hormonal.
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@@Wrigsthelegendwhat’s that emoji for
@@ghvstfave Thought it was a funny comment. Now that I look at it,It looks like im hating,Im not.
@@Wrigsthelegend OHH OKK, SORRYYY
I mean tbf, it's how theories work, theories are not 100% fact, as much as "these facts line up with idea, and could explain certain things". Pregnancy didn't cross my mind when I saw Molly story, because being neglected by the person you love while he's getting more aggressive and distant, flirting with younger girls, all while having no friends... It's enough to break her.
But I still a pregnancy theory can work pretty and adds more to the story. It does contextualize things slightly different.
Dutch tried very hard to get the attention of Mary-Beth, so good old fashioned jealousy should also be on the table here.
Woah, this theory makes the story EVEN better🤩I have to do another playthrough now🤣
I think Molly might be a factor in why Dutch doesn't trust Arthur or at least starts turning against him more in Chapter 6. If someone he was involved with romantically could turn on him, then who else?
I think chopping up Dutch's want for loyalty up to ego is too much of a simplification. He is, falsely, shown that someone close to him could betray him. But he makes the wrong call on who that is by the end of Chapter 6.
Your videos literally bought me back to RDR2. Platinum hunting plus your vids plus the Ult Edition being on sale for $30? I caved in
Glad to have you back cowpoke!
Maybe she was took in to interrogation around same time than Micah who talked. Molly was drunk and during the interrogation Milton told her things that Micah has said to cause her believe that she talked even she did not. This might cause doubts of Micah being traitor to be dropped for a while.
Karen calling out Grimshaw
meanwhile Arthur: Hi tHeRe!
well this was something I was not expecting to be shown on my recommended page
I listen to your videos while riding across the land in red dead. Very good channel
Thank you!
@@TheThirdMeteoritesame with me!
There's something wrong with you if you're listening to this while playing rdr 2
@@balls52 Not very nice. There's no issue with what I do while playing rdr
Miss grimshaw was an absolute badass lol
I mean they had methods, albeit archaic, of birth control- herbs, more primitive protection made from animal skin, and other stuff that you can research if you really want to- but I doubt Dutch would want to have a child during the events that were happening. It’s kinda clear that Jack was an accident, I doubt they ever intended to bring children into that environment.
This makes a lot of sense. I have to agree that she was. Rockstar... Wow
I think she was the most wasted character who didn't dissolve the die in the game. If you want to have time, we could have talked to her to find out. What was the problem in the game? to me, I know she wasn't the rat. If one keeps telling me it's Abigail. And I think they're right I think if she had it lived, I think she would have come back in future games. It's a shame you did find out what that conversation's gonna be with her
Molly was underrated and her story so sad 😞
I don’t blame Dutch tbh
Nice
she actually is
Maybe it's a female thing, but isn't it ironic that Susan shot her with a shotgun to the stomach?
Susan knew what was up, hence her actions as soon as Dutch drew the first weapon at her.
That's the real beauty of RS games, especially RDR...the small aspects are all to obvious to some of us.
If Molly had actually been the snitch instead of Micah, I would have liked to see Arthur tell Dutch to use a blade to kill her since bullets cost money and can only be used once, but a blade can be washed off and reused multiple times. Possibly even offer Dutch his own blade to kill her.
I fully agree with their rule that treason is and should be punished by death.
Yikes...do you uh.. Do you need to talk about something?
Yes, officer, this post right here