Or just lose, i know you wont actually do it but, you winning is making it stale gray and boring. last interesting split was 2023 spring. Then rogue upsetting you. At least G2 should struggle a bit...
Origin: When people put things on ships, they used a crank named a donkey, which was very slow. When asked how long it would take, they would reply, "donkey's years."
I don't quite understand the introductory segment where they talk about what's to come in the episode. It's a waste of time. You have that short clip from the episode first that already previews some fun part of the episode. Get into the episode after that.
According to many of the podcasters I watch, having a "roadmap" at the start of the podcast increases viewers/listeners and the time they spend on the podcast by a significant amount. It's just smart podcasting to do it.
Personally, I kinda like having the intro segment. I like having a clear idea of what is going to be covered in the podcast beyond just the preview snippet at the start. And while, yes, the chapters feature on TH-cam can do the same thing, I just personally like the 30-second intro format.
fearless draft should "in theory" give games more of a soloque feel. less standard drafts, more excitement in counter picks, and overall a better "Dylan, we go vayne!" incentive.
What could be interesting in term of format is having "minor" international compétition kind of like what exists in football with the Europa League vs Champions League
@@etienneormezzano came here to say the same. Glad you wrote that second comment because I also stopped the video 10 secs before Odo's comment xD I would watch a LoL "second international competition". We used to have the wildcard tournament, now we have the play-ins. I think if a spot in the main tournament was the reward, it would also not diminish the value of the competition
I mean if you take away Gen G T1 HLE DK KT (maybe Fear & KDF) youre left with BRO NS DRX. LEC can totally hang with those 3 teams. LEC is better than LCK.
Disagree with Odo no one is figuring out fearless mathematically. For one his assuming players can play every champ at an equal level which they very much can’t.
I think a lot of people also feel like this but i wanna point it out again. Many champs in league are really strong but are too hard countered by the meta. You cannot pick certain champs cause K'sante is open for example. Not just that but also certain champs like Lux Syndra straight up get outvalued in the stuff theyll do by champs like Hwei. I would still say Syndra is really strong ATM it may also just be that pros dont feel like shes strong or havent tried her. So fearless gives us more variety and maybe a meta shift cause all of the sudden we play champs and they feel gumba broken
The problem with that is that the number of teams has to be a power of 2 in order to have a working bracket/knockout structure. That's the whole reason they kick out 9th and 10th before transitioning to a bracket format.
@@Brookler If you want a full working bracket stage, your team count has to be a power of 2, because each elimination round cuts the number of teams in half. If you start with 10 teams, you'll have 5 teams in the upper bracket and 5 teams in the lower bracket (if it's double elim) after the first round, which is really awkward to divide into further matches. So either you need to cut two teams out beforehand (which is what current regular season is doing) or you'll have to coin toss free passes to somehow maintain a somewhat decent bracket structure, which is just nonsense at that point.
I have a theory that G2 has been purposefully playing the early game poorly/riskily so that they can get more practice playing from behind. If they gave the early game their all, then they would never get a challenge to improve with.
@@giomarimp1196 It would be a good EUROPA LEAGUE type of format. And I bet top ERL teams can be competitive against 4 to 6 teams most of the years. In some playoffs interviews the last few years top teams from LEC have said they have been scriming regularly with spanish/french/turquish best ERL teams and that they can go head to head against them.
I‘m not sure if someone thought of this before, but why not do an open international tournament for the last worlds spot open to all the teams that didn‘t secure one before. In this we could see all the lower teams compete against lower teams of all regions
Why talk about something I have to long read? Do a short explanation... Thats what a podcast is for lmao... I already have to read a lot for university...
this year could be last for hylli. As much as i am a fan of him he has too much bad days compared to good ones. Getting just angry watching him play. Always dies for nothing
What i hope for in new tournament with 5 teams: - Full Fearles - one group of 5 teams - either one round robib BO3 or double round robin BO1 - one teams gets eliminated and we have 4 team double elimination bracket should be fairly short and full of emotions tournament
I think I've read the phrase donkey's years in school. We did learn British English and I think it was one example of an idiom. Like "to bury the hatchet".
The aneouncement was that they would experiment with the format of the third tournament. Somehow that has become a guarantied fearless format in this video. Guess they have some sort of inside information.
The problem with full Fearless draft is that it could very easily devolve into teams willingly throw game 1 to pick, for example, 5 mid lane champs, just to screw with the other mid laner for the rest of the series
They can just play champs their mid laner doesn't play. It's not really that insane to think about. Your mid doesn't play Corki Asol Azir? Just pick them in game 1, and you basically get 3 bans for the rest of the series
Think of the meta potential though! Game 1 team A picks 5 mids, team b picks 5 tops. Who doesn't want to see the fiora/irelia into hwei/taliyah botlane?!
Idk how to say this nicely, but Odoamne is worrying about how middle of the pack teams or bad teams can be motivated if only the top 2 go to internationals when you can’t even win your local region unless you’re the top 1, so… I don’t get the point at all. If your team DOESNT BELIEVE THEY CAN WIN THEIR REGION… then they shouldn’t be in the league. Plain and simple. Your league will never grow in skill level and be what everyone wants it to be, unless we do away with this loser mentality. We don’t want to watch a tournament with 30 teams total, just to be nice and let in all the 4th places teams from each region… 😂 the entire concept is the battle of the best in the world. Not the matchup of the mediocre. Let that stay regional.
No way you title your Podcast episode like this after one (several) casters just abused and disrespected the players of Karmine Corp. (You guys cant say it's false, the casters apologized and admitted to being at fault)
What about getting 5 teams from every region, making groups with 1 team from each region and the winner is the region itself, not the team. Prize.pool split to all teams in a region and also get one extra spot at worlds for the region
Worlds 2025 is probably gonna be like this since there are 5 major, maybe lpl and lck will get 1 more team and the other will get 4, but it’s probably gonna happen something like that
Donkeys years is a pretty common turn of phrase in the UK. I hear it occasionally
And Australia!
We say it as well in Trinidad and Tobago.
But we used to be a British colony so it tracks.
Hear it here in Singapore from time to time
Yeah, don't let them gaslight you Dagda. We've got your back in the UK.
I would unironically love a tournament of just 4th-8th from each region. Would also help by exposing smaller teams to international play.
Maybe we'll go for 8th to make the Playoffs run more interesting
Just go for 10th take summer off and then win season finals
Or just lose, i know you wont actually do it but, you winning is making it stale gray and boring. last interesting split was 2023 spring. Then rogue upsetting you. At least G2 should struggle a bit...
@@hisaichiyushiki8219 Isn't that not in their hands? It's not their bad that there is "no real competition" in the league they play in.
please do and somehow help rogue get to top 3 so we can try make worlds
Based
“For the memes” is such an Odo answer.
"This would only make those people happy who want to watch the world burn." *Odo with literally fire in his eyes*:
Origin: When people put things on ships, they used a crank named a donkey, which was very slow. When asked how long it would take, they would reply, "donkey's years."
I don't quite understand the introductory segment where they talk about what's to come in the episode. It's a waste of time. You have that short clip from the episode first that already previews some fun part of the episode. Get into the episode after that.
I always thought that day forgot to say hi and jumped right into talking so they sad hi on the end and cut it like this xDDD
Nah, who needs a hi, overrated! Whoever came with the idea to add an intro should think again and remove it.
According to many of the podcasters I watch, having a "roadmap" at the start of the podcast increases viewers/listeners and the time they spend on the podcast by a significant amount. It's just smart podcasting to do it.
Personally, I kinda like having the intro segment. I like having a clear idea of what is going to be covered in the podcast beyond just the preview snippet at the start.
And while, yes, the chapters feature on TH-cam can do the same thing, I just personally like the 30-second intro format.
Im tired of this formula too it’s dumb lol. I don’t want spoilers for the thing im about to listen to just get on with it XD
fearless draft should "in theory" give games more of a soloque feel. less standard drafts, more excitement in counter picks, and overall a better "Dylan, we go vayne!" incentive.
What could be interesting in term of format is having "minor" international compétition kind of like what exists in football with the Europa League vs Champions League
Literally what Odo says 10sec after I post my comment 😅
@@etienneormezzano came here to say the same. Glad you wrote that second comment because I also stopped the video 10 secs before Odo's comment xD
I would watch a LoL "second international competition". We used to have the wildcard tournament, now we have the play-ins. I think if a spot in the main tournament was the reward, it would also not diminish the value of the competition
I mean if you take away Gen G T1 HLE DK KT (maybe Fear & KDF) youre left with BRO NS DRX. LEC can totally hang with those 3 teams. LEC is better than LCK.
Even bro ns and drx would finish top 3 in lec. Lck cl imports dominating your league proves that.
In Afrikaans we say "donkie jare" quite often which is obv a direct translation
Always great to see Odoamne on the show
Disagree with Odo no one is figuring out fearless mathematically. For one his assuming players can play every champ at an equal level which they very much can’t.
I think a lot of people also feel like this but i wanna point it out again.
Many champs in league are really strong but are too hard countered by the meta. You cannot pick certain champs cause K'sante is open for example. Not just that but also certain champs like Lux Syndra straight up get outvalued in the stuff theyll do by champs like Hwei. I would still say Syndra is really strong ATM it may also just be that pros dont feel like shes strong or havent tried her. So fearless gives us more variety and maybe a meta shift cause all of the sudden we play champs and they feel gumba broken
Donkey's years isn't irish specific, but it has to be together. You can't use just donkeys to mean "many". Although I think we should.
The should make Winter Split a double elim bo3/bo5 knockout tournamanet involving all 10 teams
The problem with that is that the number of teams has to be a power of 2 in order to have a working bracket/knockout structure. That's the whole reason they kick out 9th and 10th before transitioning to a bracket format.
@@doomse150 what no they don't, you can just have a prelim or by using seeding from a previous year
@@Brookler If you want a full working bracket stage, your team count has to be a power of 2, because each elimination round cuts the number of teams in half. If you start with 10 teams, you'll have 5 teams in the upper bracket and 5 teams in the lower bracket (if it's double elim) after the first round, which is really awkward to divide into further matches. So either you need to cut two teams out beforehand (which is what current regular season is doing) or you'll have to coin toss free passes to somehow maintain a somewhat decent bracket structure, which is just nonsense at that point.
we say donkeys years in scotland also!
Odoamne ce podcast!
Far too many over-reactions regarding G2. Theyll place like 4th/5th at least then smash everyone in playoffs to win summer
wouldn't it be funny if G2 somehow missed playoffs and just won season finals anyway lol
FNATIC BEST TEAM ♥
I have a theory that G2 has been purposefully playing the early game poorly/riskily so that they can get more practice playing from behind. If they gave the early game their all, then they would never get a challenge to improve with.
These thumbnails are pure gold. Keep it up!
42:40 - 43:03 beverage buddy going strong
It would be cool to put top 4 to 6 that doesnt go to worlds go to a EMEA masters special edition in summer
Maybe it would be better to put the team from 7 to 10, i think top 4 to 6 is too much for the emea
@@giomarimp1196 It would be a good EUROPA LEAGUE type of format. And I bet top ERL teams can be competitive against 4 to 6 teams most of the years. In some playoffs interviews the last few years top teams from LEC have said they have been scriming regularly with spanish/french/turquish best ERL teams and that they can go head to head against them.
I‘m not sure if someone thought of this before, but why not do an open international tournament for the last worlds spot open to all the teams that didn‘t secure one before. In this we could see all the lower teams compete against lower teams of all regions
cute idea but think about the insane effort to organize and set up all of that just for one team to make it
Why talk about something I have to long read? Do a short explanation... Thats what a podcast is for lmao... I already have to read a lot for university...
this year could be last for hylli. As much as i am a fan of him he has too much bad days compared to good ones. Getting just angry watching him play. Always dies for nothing
Donkey's years is a perfectly normal expression, stop gaslighting Dagda for understanding idioms
What i hope for in new tournament with 5 teams:
- Full Fearles
- one group of 5 teams
- either one round robib BO3 or double round robin BO1
- one teams gets eliminated and we have 4 team double elimination bracket
should be fairly short and full of emotions tournament
I think I've read the phrase donkey's years in school. We did learn British English and I think it was one example of an idiom. Like "to bury the hatchet".
The aneouncement was that they would experiment with the format of the third tournament. Somehow that has become a guarantied fearless format in this video. Guess they have some sort of inside information.
"For an animal that's pretty long." Either Drakos means that for trees it would not be long, or he doesn't consider humans animals.
Goulûment
I much refer Alistar over Rell
Go full fearless
odo bro retire and go casting please please id love that (maybe not u) but u'd be insanely good
Odo king of monolog
My goat Odo
do a ryder cup type of tournament...Europe vs USA
Donkey's years is also very common in Australia.
nice shirt dagda love it love you pookybear
As an Australian, we also have donkey's years
You know?
He's mad as a bag of spiders that dagda
Odo is the next Caedrel xdd
South African phrase as well, in afrikaans especially - Donkie Jare / Donkey Years
Lekker!
Giant L 0-3. Odo was the problem right? right?
The problem with full Fearless draft is that it could very easily devolve into teams willingly throw game 1 to pick, for example, 5 mid lane champs, just to screw with the other mid laner for the rest of the series
And their own mid aswell?
They can just play champs their mid laner doesn't play. It's not really that insane to think about. Your mid doesn't play Corki Asol Azir? Just pick them in game 1, and you basically get 3 bans for the rest of the series
Think of the meta potential though! Game 1 team A picks 5 mids, team b picks 5 tops. Who doesn't want to see the fiora/irelia into hwei/taliyah botlane?!
Yes finally another episode!! Happy face
Idk how to say this nicely, but Odoamne is worrying about how middle of the pack teams or bad teams can be motivated if only the top 2 go to internationals when you can’t even win your local region unless you’re the top 1, so… I don’t get the point at all. If your team DOESNT BELIEVE THEY CAN WIN THEIR REGION… then they shouldn’t be in the league. Plain and simple. Your league will never grow in skill level and be what everyone wants it to be, unless we do away with this loser mentality. We don’t want to watch a tournament with 30 teams total, just to be nice and let in all the 4th places teams from each region… 😂 the entire concept is the battle of the best in the world. Not the matchup of the mediocre. Let that stay regional.
Most of world champions are not winners of summer in their region
Alright guys, what we have to do is put KC praising tittle so Upset isn’t upset anymore
So many cool matches this weekend but we have to bait the audience into clicking with KC in title xddd
the amount of clickbaiting is disgusting and highlight the lack of depths of analisis
KC: we're a proud french organisation.
Also KC: kick all french players & start winning
They can still lose every remaining match for a 3rd 2-7 split thought, don't overestimate them xD
LEC fans : flame KC for keeping french players during the 2 first splits
also LEC fans : flame KC for kicking the french players after 2 bad splits
Quand ca les arrange ils mettent la kc en miniature ces rats de hype
Can you stop putting Odoamne everywhere? I'd really appreciate that.
No way you title your Podcast episode like this after their fanbase just abused one of your casters. Have some self-respect
Which caster was abused? How so?
No way you title your Podcast episode like this after one (several) casters just abused and disrespected the players of Karmine Corp. (You guys cant say it's false, the casters apologized and admitted to being at fault)
Yeah apologizing after death threats + harassment, even if you did nothing wrong, is completely unheard of.
@@kelylek you guys are absolutely delusional holy hell
This is Karmine Corp ! 🫶🏼💙
What about getting 5 teams from every region, making groups with 1 team from each region and the winner is the region itself, not the team. Prize.pool split to all teams in a region and also get one extra spot at worlds for the region
Worlds 2025 is probably gonna be like this since there are 5 major, maybe lpl and lck will get 1 more team and the other will get 4, but it’s probably gonna happen something like that
why is there only 2 games this weekend? Please dont tell me its because of the Saudi slave money
nope , it's because the teams complained about the format of 3 weeks of 3 games , so it moves to 1st Week 3 games and 3 weeks with 2 games