While I was initially very concerned about an EA dirt rally title, Ive become a lot more optimistic as more details emerge. This could be a seriously amazing rally sim if the gameplay reveal delivers :)
@@Nick-tz1ju EA is the publisher, Codemasters are the developer. Based on my information, EA knows what Codemasters is capable of and wanted to let them do their thing from a gameplay perspective. Massively important to know.
Please keep making these videos with updates as not all of us can keep tabs on every platform. Regardless, i really like how you deliver information and thank you for sharing your enthusiasm for this upcoming game
Both of your wishes should be fulfilled. Improving the tarmac physics has been one of the dev team's main priorities. The stages will be 1:1 recreations of real roads where the vast majority have been part of a real stage. Licensing sometimes throws a bit of wrench in it, unfortunately.
Im pleased to see the citreon xsara is going to be included that car was almost unstoppable and uncatchable in the hands of Sebastian Loeb 9 x world champion !!
All I want for this new game is the Octavia WRC..... and the 307...... and the Cordoba.....and the Felicia..... yeah... and toyotas, toyotas as well all of them Edit: OG Kenya would be awesome. Lovely content
@@SimsRacingDesign "No worry though, im thankfull for the list of car you put out there in your last vid. Can't expect every you love in a game you know, but im thankfull. Hopefully these rally cars has close to reality engine sound like for example: the skoda fabia 05 wrc.
This coming from Jon puts me more at ease. I really want this game to be the Dirt Rally successor it deserves. Just hope EA doesn't push too much of their typical bs into it.
If there is some of that in there, it should not and must not affect gameplay. They can put all of it in there if they want as long as it doesn't affect gameplay in my opinion.
I REALLY hope they add Wales like you said Iconic,cult classic title decider but been from the UK could be slightly bias but Wales and corsica for me need that tarmac ......... if they physics are sorted
I'd love that too. Personally still going for NZ and Corsica. With a bit of luck NZ will receive an update which would address the aesthetics (e.g. colour of the gravel). Corsica has been on my wishlist for ages as well and I love tarmac above all else.
After preordering BF2042 I told myself not to pre-order a game anymore, much less an EA game. But after this video I might just take the bite and accept the 10% off. I know I will eventually end buying this, so I will take the chance.
Appreciate the compliment, mate! And I think your reasoning is sound. Haha Besides, buying a AAA game for €45 is something you don't see often anymore these days. It's not a huge expense compared to the €70 or even €80 you would normally have to cough up.
Corica in the Seat Cordoba WRC would give me such strong Colin McRae Rally 2.0 vibes 😄 I’d find it very surprising though if they had time to add more new locations on top of the ones they were obliged to create for the WRC license. Unless of course a lot of groundwork was already in place for the cancelled DR3. I’m still hoping that any former DR locations get a reboot where possible - maybe Hafren forest instead of Sweet Lamb, Sisteron instead of Col de Turini (blasphemy, I know), Myhinpää instead of Ouininpohja etc. But all the brand new content in Estonia, Chile, Japan, Central Europe etc. is going to be more than enough to sink our teeth into!
It's a fact that it'll have 5 additional locations aside from the 13 of the official calendar. Those 5 will most likely be events that were developed for DR3 but aren't on the official calendar such as Spain, Norway and Indonesia as well as two others.
@@SimsRacingDesign I’m sure those 5 will be good quality regardless of what they are, you can count on codemasters for that! Unlike KT… The fact this will be a yearly series too means there’ll be refreshed content each year as a new rally comes onto the calendar. I’m sure plenty of people will moan about that (like they already are just from the fact EA own codies 🙄). But for me, the baseline level of quality we can expect from post-DR rally games will be there, bring on the new content each year!
@@jack4688 Completely agree with you except for one thing. Everyone expects it to be a yearly thing but nothing has been said that states this is actually the case. Besides there are several clues that indicate it won't be a yearly thing. First of all, EA titles that are yearly releases always has a number in the title (e.g. Madden 24, F1 23, Fifa 23, etc.). This is not the case here as it's called EA Sports WRC and not EA Sports WRC 23. Secondly, the 5 VIP Season Passes suggest that we won't get any new game until 2025. Seasons usually are 3 to 4 months long in the gaming world (if I remember correctly). So 5x3 = 15 | 5x4 = 20 suggests the next WRC game after this one will release between January and June of 2025 (most likely around February/March). Perfect timing for the 2025 eSports series to kick off whilst the real WRC Championship is getting underway. Sometimes, all you need is a bit of logical thinking. Haha I suspect the series will get a new game roughly every two years. It also gives the dev team enough time to make significant improvements for the next one because they want to go a lot further with the Unreal engine than what they managed so far.
@@SimsRacingDesign that’s some great investigative work! I’m not too fussed if it’s only every two years. I lasted that long playing each DR, we only had to endure D4 in the middle of those two 😆 Some kind of regular, if not frequent, sequelling (if that’s a word?) will be satisfactory. There have been times when I’ve thought “I got F1 2017, then F1 2018… I can’t be bothered with ‘19, it won’t be revolutionary enough to justify buying another new game” so a longer than yearly iteration will probably be a good thing!
@@jack4688 Yeah, D4 was a bit of a miss... Afterwards they decided to split the two franchises. Since then, DiRT Rally has it's own dev team and game series which is now EA Sports WRC, and DiRT has there own, focusing on the more arcadey and crazy rally/rally raid titles like DiRT5.
I would be very happy if the experience of this new WRC was identical to the inertial and responsive driving of the Colin McRae car in the DiRT game!! I will have HOPE :D
I was hoping for the split screen 2 player option. Me and my flat mate have been playing WRC 6 to Generations for the past year and its a lot of fun. F1 has got the option so was hoping for it in this new release.
I’m newer to rally games. Love dirt so far but can’t wait for this. Seems like a lot of stuff is coming with this. I hope. The tarmac is a bit better, maybe it’s just me but I can’t figure out how to go faster with out losing it. Prob a skill issues lol. 30km stages will wreck me haha. The long ones in dr2 are a grind for me.
Tarmac will be vastly improved upon. Btw if you want some tips and tricks, there's an instruction video on the channel going into detail on how you can master the (Spanish) tarmac. I think it worth checking out for you. 😉
But will CodeMasters finally bring back Super Special Stages from their early rally titles, like which are already present in the Kylotonn games? Because this is something that should really be in an official game, but also because they are lots of fun and would be fantastic for simultaneous online head to head play 😁
Would love to see some traffic. Catching slower cars on course or in my case being passed by quicker ones. See or entries off in the weeds. Maybe warning triangles and broke down entries once in awhile. PS; Something no other rally sim has
Real world stages is a big seller for me, especially if the handling model is like dirt 2.0. Hopefully the games playable at a decent level with a controller (just don’t have the room for a proper setup)
Dirt 2.0 is my fav game , so hyped for this hope the engine sounds are good and Phil mills is available for co driver ...pre ordered on steam 10% discount
Don't think many would mind the 08 impreza being replaced by 03 or 05 😬 but they've used the 08 so much, it's hard not to imagine they just include it.
@@GDUBMX Ah, it didn't feel like a 'real' scooby with the hatch. Also, we've seen it so much in games for years, I'm sure most would prefer to see 03 or 05 in a new game 🙂
@@snoopycharlie8718my ultimate wish would be the replace the 01 with the 03 and the 08 with the 06/07. 😅 One can only dream. I'm bored with the 01 as we've seen it in soooo many titles now.
@@SimsRacingDesign Agreed 😎 ha, but that's a bit greedy 🤭 Haven't had a good 03 or 06 model in a game for sooooo long! Why they so slow to add WRC Lancers do you know? I know you mentioned the Toyota thing but don't think there's conflict from Mitsubishi?
There shouldn't be but there are so many early 2000's WRC cars that it's difficult to please everyone. There are more successful cars there as well as cars that are more popular amongst the community, like the Seat Cordoba WRC Evo3 (one of my favourites), Skoda Octavia WRC, Ford Focus RS WRC 03 or Peugeot 307 WRC (preferably the 2005 version with the more aggressive front bumper). After that probably comes the 2005 Lancer WRC. Not counting the Xsara for example as that one's already confirmed to be in it.
It could be but I believe there are far nicer/more logical additions they could put in. Besides, that car was an absolute disaster all-round back in its day, especially when it comes to the turbo. 😅
I thought this game was going to be a letdown but the more I see the more I like it. Hopefully we'll have good gameplay and more stages confirmed (please monte carlo). I'm getting excited!
Monte Carlo is already confirmed. It's part of the official 2023 calendar and there's a promo image of Hyundai on one of the Monte stages. In the image you can see the start of an iconic stage that starts in La Bollène-Vésubie. 😉
Now that made me anxious for the release of this game. I was afraid of the lenght of stages, Dirt Rally series only had around 10km at longest as far as I remember, hopefully in this one each race will have a stage similar to the epics of WRC series, very long and challenging let's wait, fingers crossed.
Hope this got some realistic driving physics, else way it doesnt matter how great graphics or sounds it got, it'll be rubbish. You have space ship games separate
Really hope they put the Disk brakes on the inside of the wheels for launch . Lancia at 6:31 seemingly has the carry over (DR2) external disks . Great video good information Many thanks
Those are not the brake discs. 😉 Those devices on the front rims are used to help aircool the front brakes a lot better on tarmac events because they used to overheat easily without. Here's an example of that device on the car in real life: cutt.ly/AwzTczMN
@@SimsRacingDesign Yes of course. This is very relevant to historic cars. Some sims/games have a global setting that gives all cars their realistic default of what gear change and assists they have. For example a 1960s Fulvia would have H-pattern, clutch and no access to ABS or TC. An early 2000s car would have access to TC, ABS, and paddle shifters, a post 2011 car wouldn’t have paddle shifters or access to ABS. I’m no expert on all the WRC rules by any means and it would be nice to have an option for the game to set these things automatically. It’s not for everyone but anyone with a full on rig might find this very useful.
@@splatracer7726 Would indeed be nice if that were an option but the vast majority of players use the same configuration no matter the car. The important thing is that you are at least able to drive the cars as they were intended to be driven (H-pattern, sequential, TC, ABS, etc.) but you have to manually select those assists. Besides, it's not overly complicated or takes a long time to do though so I think it's quite alright. Very low priority feature on the dev team's list.
@@ultrabonkpcgaming9247 Actually, as far as I know, all of them had handbrakes but using them would normally break either the handbrake itself or the car (e.g. diffs).
thinking about the wrc class cars listed, the wording says from 1997 to 2011, so I think that in addition to the Mini, we will also see the fiesta, the polo (already present in dirt rallies) and if God sends us well also the first Hyundai i20, or the citroen ds3 sorry for my bad English
It wouldn't make sense to add more than one car from that era. The WRC 2017-2021 only has 2 cars and they got their own class. In other words, the dev team would've created a separate car class for them (WRC 2011-2016) which is not the case.
Yes, but the Mini is in there and will be the only one from that particular era so in order to put it in a class they went for 1997-2011 instead of 1997-2010.
30 kms stages. So there will be 17 locations with one 30 km stage which will be split to make all the rally stages. You will be driving the same stage forward and reversed. Not much variety in a rally.
In an actual rally event there's far less variation then in the past as well. Vast majority of stages are run at least twice. But aside from that. There might be locations where the actual real life event doesn't have a 30km stage. For those we'll get two separate stage that'll combine for 30 to 40 km, I suspect. Of course also cut up and reversed to make the amount of 12 stages per location total.
Yes, it's common to have repeat stages in a rally, but driving the same piece of road (cut up) back and forth is not rallying. At least 4 distinct stages per event would be better, no matter the length.
@@SimsRacingDesignpeople complaining about "lack" of ground quickly forgot the few stages that the first dirt game had. I got bored trying to complete all the categories on that... I'll be honest, at first I was unconfortable with the license of WRC going to codemaster/EA but now the thing is getting bright to me, imagine yourself racing through a long stage trying to save the tyres while the weather is twisting and affecting the surface, man! for me that's the idea of a rally sim, let's wait guys.
@@SimsRacingDesign I think it will be a mess. Hell, I can't even set up field of view to comfortable degree in DR 2, guess we will play RBR NGP forever ')
@@SimsRacingDesign Each to their own.....but when have CM ever really delivered? It's taken fourteen (full price!) releases to get F1 into its mediocre current state. Dirt is junk. Grid is junk. Project Cars is junk. Promises, promises. Both parties are hype merchants IMO whose PR is way better than their actual product.
@@CurtOntheRadio I didn't hear you mention DiRT Rally... Just so you know, the DiRT franchise has been completely separate from DiRT Rally for the past decade. It's that DR dev team who is responsible for EA Sports WRC. I mean the DiRT Rally series has been hugely successful. Just look at the number of active players today compared to its rivals.
Those locations (Corsica, Norway as well) seem implausible for a WRC game but remember this might be content that was in development for the cancelled DR3 before codies got the WRC license
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Should have considerable improvements on the tarmac side of things. The dev team are most definitely aware of the issues with it and have made it one of their main priorities for EA Sports WRC.
@@SimsRacingDesign sounds promising. thx for the news and video. not that they could change it now, but besides the tire model and handling I am hoping for on the fly brake bias adjustment as we have it in almost all other sims for circuit racing. and as one can adjust it in the setup why not during the stage. also it would be great to play around with the tires more. i.e. taking 2 spares for the long loops with the 30 km stages and then switch them around like irl and actually make use of them instead of driving them around for nothing most of the time.
Would like that but won't be the case. Every event in the game is part of the official WRC calendar or has been on it at some point in the past. Don't recall any WRC USA events being organised so far.
Is there any information about support for VR? There is a big amount of people who are dedicated to using VR headsets including myself. I don't know if I can expect to see it if game is running on Unreal. Great video, looking forward to hearing more details.
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment. To have an answer to you question, I'd suggest watching the first video I put on the channel about EA Sports WRC. 😉
Assists are all well and good but let's hope they actually tell us 'novices' what the tuning settings will do. Can't wait to oversteer in my beloved Stratos 🥲
@@beyond72deepsoulfulhousemixes Could be, because I only started playing it recently. But they did also have explanations for every tuning adjustment in Dirt Rally 1 as well.
That's been something they put very high on their priority list for EA Sports WRC. They were very aware of the issues with the tarmac handling in DR2.0.
@@SimsRacingDesign yeah i said it cause of that the car in DR 2.0 feeled like gelatine goin from a side to another aint matter what surface.... a WRC Generations like physics will be great but in a code style
Most of them will though I have a feeling that a small number of them will be replaced by completely new ones to the this series or the older DiRT Rally franchise.
You do realize that the 30 km stage will be the entire country location, which will then be chopped up in 5 smaller stages, which will then also be reversed, and the game will be advertised as having 11 stages per location, right? :D
For some it might, for others not. Somewhat subjective in regards to what people prefer. But objectively, we'll have to wait and see. RBR physics does have a number flaws as well.
True when it comes to the KT Racing WRC games. Now it's developed by Codemasters and they know how to design audio. Just listen to the cars in DR2.0. Brilliant.
Really annoying watching replays and the cars look like hovercrafts, I see the same happens here, small detail I know but really important if you enjoy watching replays
Not mentioning Portugal is a huge mistake, not only because it´s a great location but also because it´s one of the most iconic rallies ion the World, and one of the oldest., not to mention that it´s been one of the driver´s favorite. Ahhh, also Portugal has been considered The Best Rally in the World for a huge number of Years-
But Portugal is already confirmed. It's part of this year's WRC calendar so it's a given to be in the game. Also mentioned it in the first video, if you haven't watched it.
I'm still interested in this but honestly this is just Dirt Rally ported to Unreal Engine. Visually outdated, the handling differences will probably be negligible. It's just Dirt Rally 2.5 with WRC license. I was expecting far more given how many years have passed and they skip last-gen consoles.
Visually I was expecting a bit of bigger jump as well like I mentioned in the first video. However, aside from that things will be vastly improved. And we're getting plenty of new locations, 30+km stages, over 20 new cars, new modes like builder,... You really can't call that DR2.5. More like DR3.5. Basically DR3 with the official WRC content mixed in.
@@SimsRacingDesign The variety of locations is what really sells me the game currently. At least the content will be there. But in everything else it looks like a half-baked effort to me, as if EA didn't provide enough resources for it, hence the "recycled" DR 2.0 visuals and physics. I was hoping for a truly brand new game, something that rivals F1 in its production values.
@@gabor-toth We haven't seen enough of the visuals yet in my opinion. We don't know which game built we saw in the footage but it's definitely one that's several months old. The release version might be better visually, especially when you can adjust the settings on PC to your personal liking. The DR2.0 physics model is a good starting point, especially when it comes to gravel and snow. "Recycled" is a not the right word to use in this context. It'll be physics model 2.0 with improvements for gravel and snow as well as major adjustments for tarmac.
Well, sure they use the same hybrid system and need to have a certain engine displacement but other than that, they are vastly different. Besides you'll have to work around a budget, buying bits on the spare market etc. It'll be very interesting to see how it all comes together.
@@SimsRacingDesign as long as there is something to make adjustments then i will be fine. Thats the main reason I never spent much time on the Dirt Rally or the WRC titles. I didnt spend this much money on equipment to use hood view lmao. Great video BTW
@@filipdrena2363 Might have to elaborate a bit more on that though. The stages will be 1:1 recreations of real roads where the vast majority have been part of a real stage. Sometimes there are a few issues with licensing which prevents them from using certain sections of road. Very common element and not something the developers can do anything about.
Well, it's an officially licensed WRC game and not a normal DiRT Rally game so there's no room for World RX. Codemasters also is no longer in possession of the license for World RX. It's not their fault or anything. Just the way things work.
I would love an Irish tarmac event like Rally of the Lakes (Killarney) to be on the roster. It won't be this time around but never say never. Been pushing for my home event (Ypres Rally Belgium) for years as well but that hasn't happened either. I'll try bribing officials next to get it back on the WRC calendar which would secure its spot in the game for that particular season. Haha
@@massimocoslovich But the result is exactly the same. Whether you design 3 separate ones and put them together to create a long one or create a long one and cut it into 3 separate ones.
@@SimsRacingDesign I was on Beta team for Dirt Rally 1 and I was the one that suggested clutch with sequential for clutch kicking when you bog down especially if you handbrake at a hairpin and lose revs, worse with old turbo setups.
Hmm. Good question. Thing is, they're surely swapping to annual release schedule, a la F1, so you'll be paying for much the same content over and over for the next decade, if they have their way. So maybe they'll give more content initially and milk it over the coming years (iterating the same thing over and over) - rather than drip feed it for dollars as in the DR2 DLC model?
@@CurtOntheRadio first of all, don't take this the wrong way as it's definitely not my intention. 😉 It is fair to assume yearly releases but nothing's been confirmed yet. Besides, isn't that what every (sim) racing title does. No matter of it's a new version or completely new game, it always has loads of the same content. Always the same circuits like Spa, Nurburgring, Monza, etc. and cars/classes such as GT3, Le Mans Prototypes, etc. I never really hear any complaints about that, yet it's the exact same thing or even worse. Also, having a game with so much iconic content, some of it is bound to be recycled. Would you be OK if a rally game didn't have the Audi Quattro S1 (E2) or the Lancia Delta S4, Subaru Impreza S5 WRC, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI, BMW M3, Lancia Stratos, Subaru Impreza Group A... Or iconic stage like Col du Turini, Fafe, El Chocolate, etc. I mean, rally sim people would be rioting in the streets. You should widen your perspective a bit to see the bigger picture.
@@SimsRacingDesign Oh, it's true that the whole scene is stale due to the same old content, over and over. People do complain about it - except for AssettoCorsa, where the complaint is rather "Do we need 300 different BMW 3 series?" :D I'd call it a lack of delivery - there is no shortage of rally stages in UK, let alone across the world. But we always get the same ones, none of which have ever been done with any great fidelity. Likewise for cars and handling - if they were really well done you wouldn't tire of them (and nor would they change much across titles let alone iterations of one title). And just look at, say, Snowrunner and its handling of water and sludgey surfaces, suspension and grip etc. Light years ahead of anything any rally game has ever even tried to do, let alone deliver. Granted, Snowrunner is slow so there's more room/time for physics, but look at road surfaces on even this iteration of Dirt? It's pretty pathetic in my jaded opinion. :D And how about the deformation and breakage in BeamNG? I've been watching and taking part in this process of hype and disappointment since the early 1980s so I'm a bit long in the tooth to buy into new promises. But in forty years the progress has been really minimal, given hardware constraints have completely disappeared from POV of even twenty years ago. Not good enough. Jaded :D
It will have all the cars, teams, drivers and liveries from the 2023 WRC season. It will also have all the locations from the 2023 WRC season. The stages will be actual 1:1 recreations of real world stages from those locations whenever they are able to do it. Licensing might cause some issues for certain stretches of road though.
With the move to the Unreal engine and PSVR2 being somewhat new, it's understandable to not have it. Will come in a future title for sure but not this one.
I would like to see a time penalty for those using bonnet cam view !! as opposed to using cockpit view !! the reason is this when using bonnet cam view you have a distinct advantage over cockpit view as you can see much further ahead and also the force feed back seems seems much weaker ?? Also they state that this is a rally sim so therefore especially in the esports competitions competitors should be made to use cockpit view as bonnet view is just too arcadey ? yes i understand and accept that its to each individuals preference which view you use i myself prefer more simlike /immersion so always use cockpit view as since when does a real wrc rally driver sit in the centre of a car and look out over the centre of the bonnet they mostly sit on the left hand side !! Now im not the fastest but im certainley not the slowest but when using bonnet view i was knocking off 10 to 15 seconds off my stages i had done in cockpit view !! anyone have an opinion on this ?
I always use bonnet cam as cockpit view is just staring at a tv with a restrictive view. It’s absolutely nothing like driving a car. Unless you have a windscreen size tv 😂
And there’s nothing wrong with that! I’ll use a wheel for this game but for games that I use a pad like the new crew game, I’ll use 3rd person cam all the time. I think people get too into racing games and end up sitting in there living room in a pair of gloves 😂
i really hope they have updated the handling model about 200 times. in dirt rally 2 its like the cars dont have suspension or weight transfer at all. left foot braking in a fwd makes the car understeer instead of overstearso its imposible to drive the cars as they are supposed to be driven.
Improvements will be made, with the main priority being tarmac. In your case, I think you might need to look at adjusting your driving style a bit in combination with finding a car setup that fits your style. The default ones aren't always ideal for everyone as each of us has their own driving style. Personally, I've always felt the cars were very intuitive to drive. With certain setup adjustments, they behaved exactly as I would expect them to do in real life.
@@SimsRacingDesign no, i dont need to adjust my driving style, the game has to get better. a special setup shouldnt be needed for the car to act like a car but if its the right setup for me it should make me faster.
@@SimsRacingDesign if I'm going to grossly exaggerate, the cars in dirt rally 2 behave like scalextric cars where the 4wd cars are attached to the track in the middle under the car, fwd in the back and rwd in the front. rallycross in iracing has gotten it pretty good where you can really use the brake and gas to control and steer the car. and since im raised in a rally crazy family with 6 national titles and 5 wins at wrc events i really want this to be good.
That is indeed an exaggerated way of describing things. Jon Armstrong wouldn't allow the physics to be like that to be honest. From which rally dynasty are you a member of, if I may ask?
@@SimsRacingDesign i wouldnt say im a member of it but my stepfather was a part of the service team and his cousin was the driver so as a kid i spent many hours in the garage watching them work on the car and since its ~30 years ago during the era of free service i followed along in the chase car on some smaller events. he was a factory driver for opel.
Why the McRae R4 this never got passed the protype stages and never moved forwards after his passing. the Mini never really did anything other than live off the originals fame BMW never put any support behind the program at WRC levels. the Xsara is a legend car so a no brainer. this is however a EA game so they can hype it all they want I would guess lots of content is going to hidden behind a paywall . ever rally fan will be wanting their favourite rally car to driver. and if that is only those cars that won the WRC that's is a lot of extra content. if you look at the two all time Favourites both from Group B neither went on the claim the WRC title the Audi Quattro S1 E1 and the Delta S4 are cars that have to be part of any game claiming to be WRC. as for this build your own cars just how is that going to work EA must add limits to what makes of cars can be used I do not see them adding an Automation style build your complete own design. this has to be more like the Tuning modes found in Forza or GT7 were you can engine swap change the layout of the car anything more complex is going to lead to major balancing problems with the game play. Unreal engine seeing how long it took Assetto Corsa to get a driving sim to work using that platform I do not hold my hopes up for EA putting that sort of work into development. yes its makes for visually stunning world but it has its limits less things have changed. It all sounds good but EA do not have the best record with game innovation they may make a big effort for this first edition but it will just turn into another serialised Game like FIFA and F1 . I do hope I am wrong though.
The McRae R4 passed the prototype phase and has competed in (national) events, as far as I know. The main reason it's added, is pretty simple... It's Colin's own rally car project and he is the reason we had the Colin McRae Rally and DiRT Rally games, and eventually this new WRC series. All the content that has and will be revealed in the monts leading up to the release will be part of the standard game. So all 18 locations, 78 cars, etc. will be there and not hidden behind a paywall. That's a fact. The body shells for the builder mode feature will be fictional ones, losely based on real car models. You'll be able to build a car that fits within the rules of Rally3, Rally2 or Rally1. You might be able to do more but you won't be able to use them in championships such as Junior WRC, WRC2 or WRC. They will figure something out though. Some sort of open class based on power output and engine layout or drivetrain configuration. Something important to remember here is that EA isn't developing this game. It's Codemasters, who fall under the EA framework after they were bought by them. EA is just more or less the publisher in this case and Codemasters are the developers. When it comes to the serialised element you bring up. I'm not sure this is the case. At least not from the beginning. All the games you mentioned, have numbers in their title (FIFA 23, F1 23, etc.). EA Sports WRC does not. Add to that the fact we'll have 5 VIP season passes, each season normally lasting 3 or 4 months, suggests that there won't be a new one until early 2025. That also gives the developers time enough to work out the kinks and upgrade to a newer version of Unreal. I have my suspicion, the first WRC game will use UE4 (with certain UE5 features perhaps). By 2025, they could move over to UE5.2 or even 5.3 which would be truly amazing.
While I was initially very concerned about an EA dirt rally title, Ive become a lot more optimistic as more details emerge. This could be a seriously amazing rally sim if the gameplay reveal delivers :)
Absolutely and based on what I picked up on here and there, we won't be disappointed when it comes to the handling. 😁
Don't put any money on it. It's EA so probably it will be a disappointing game.
@@Nick-tz1ju EA is the publisher, Codemasters are the developer.
Based on my information, EA knows what Codemasters is capable of and wanted to let them do their thing from a gameplay perspective.
Massively important to know.
I am so friggin stoked
@@sethdale4721 You and me both, brother!
Please keep making these videos with updates as not all of us can keep tabs on every platform.
Regardless, i really like how you deliver information and thank you for sharing your enthusiasm for this upcoming game
Will do and you are very welcome!
Really appreciate the compliment and support.
Pretty great to know which species of tree I'll be wrapping myself around in this game
Haha it is indeed. Details are important, right? Haha
I just want good tarmac physics and the stages to stack up to WRCs 😭
Both of your wishes should be fulfilled.
Improving the tarmac physics has been one of the dev team's main priorities.
The stages will be 1:1 recreations of real roads where the vast majority have been part of a real stage.
Licensing sometimes throws a bit of wrench in it, unfortunately.
Im pleased to see the citreon xsara is going to be included that car was almost unstoppable and uncatchable in the hands of Sebastian Loeb 9 x world champion !!
We will enjoy the engine sound
@@kevins429we will enjoy every inch and every second of noise of this car for sure!
@@SimsRacingDesign hell yeah!
@@kevins429 expecally the limiter launching sound, sound so goooooooood!, if they do it right.
All I want for this new game is the Octavia WRC..... and the 307...... and the Cordoba.....and the Felicia..... yeah... and toyotas, toyotas as well all of them
Edit: OG Kenya would be awesome.
Lovely content
The mitsubishi lancer 05 wrc would be nice too driven by gigi and panizzi.
I'd love them all as well but I doubt that will happen. 😅
@@SimsRacingDesign "No worry though, im thankfull for the list of car you put out there in your last vid. Can't expect every you love in a game you know, but im thankfull. Hopefully these rally cars has close to reality engine sound like for example: the skoda fabia 05 wrc.
Skoda Octavia ❤
@@BigGuyJac I put all the cars from DR2.0 on there that are possible but I'm also convinced we might see some of them replaced by completely new cars.
DR 2.0 handling model! I'm sold already
Not just that... An improved handling model for gravel and snow, and even more for tarmac.
Despite EA being behind this I'm always hyped for a new rally game. For now I'm keeping my expectations pretty low but I want it to be good.
This sounds all pretty good, we all so hungry for a new rally game
Absolutely!
This coming from Jon puts me more at ease. I really want this game to be the Dirt Rally successor it deserves. Just hope EA doesn't push too much of their typical bs into it.
If there is some of that in there, it should not and must not affect gameplay. They can put all of it in there if they want as long as it doesn't affect gameplay in my opinion.
There are certainly rally enthusiasts in Indonesia that would be VERY happy to hear that Rally Indonesia is finally represented in WRC. Good stuff! :)
As an American, I want to see the Vermont sports car wrx sti in the game as it dominated the American rally championship the past few years.
That would be cool but it wouldn't fit in any of the car classes. It's also not eligible to compete in official WRC events.
Bloody great car though. 😁
dirt rally 2.0 had 2 NR4 cars being the evo x and wrx sti. WRC car lists have 3 unnamed NR4 cars.
@@MrRay168 That spot on the car list has already been filled in by the DJM McRae R4.
Wouldn't fit in any class in the game
I REALLY hope they add Wales like you said Iconic,cult classic title decider but been from the UK could be slightly bias but Wales and corsica for me need that tarmac ......... if they physics are sorted
I'd love that too. Personally still going for NZ and Corsica. With a bit of luck NZ will receive an update which would address the aesthetics (e.g. colour of the gravel).
Corsica has been on my wishlist for ages as well and I love tarmac above all else.
Irish tarmac stages would be cool
@@nuutinedefinitely but unlikely. However, wouldn't rule it out for the future. It was part of the WRC in the late 2000's so...
After preordering BF2042 I told myself not to pre-order a game anymore, much less an EA game.
But after this video I might just take the bite and accept the 10% off. I know I will eventually end buying this, so I will take the chance.
Appreciate the compliment, mate!
And I think your reasoning is sound. Haha
Besides, buying a AAA game for €45 is something you don't see often anymore these days. It's not a huge expense compared to the €70 or even €80 you would normally have to cough up.
Corica in the Seat Cordoba WRC would give me such strong Colin McRae Rally 2.0 vibes 😄
I’d find it very surprising though if they had time to add more new locations on top of the ones they were obliged to create for the WRC license.
Unless of course a lot of groundwork was already in place for the cancelled DR3. I’m still hoping that any former DR locations get a reboot where possible - maybe Hafren forest instead of Sweet Lamb, Sisteron instead of Col de Turini (blasphemy, I know), Myhinpää instead of Ouininpohja etc.
But all the brand new content in Estonia, Chile, Japan, Central Europe etc. is going to be more than enough to sink our teeth into!
It's a fact that it'll have 5 additional locations aside from the 13 of the official calendar. Those 5 will most likely be events that were developed for DR3 but aren't on the official calendar such as Spain, Norway and Indonesia as well as two others.
@@SimsRacingDesign I’m sure those 5 will be good quality regardless of what they are, you can count on codemasters for that! Unlike KT…
The fact this will be a yearly series too means there’ll be refreshed content each year as a new rally comes onto the calendar. I’m sure plenty of people will moan about that (like they already are just from the fact EA own codies 🙄). But for me, the baseline level of quality we can expect from post-DR rally games will be there, bring on the new content each year!
@@jack4688 Completely agree with you except for one thing. Everyone expects it to be a yearly thing but nothing has been said that states this is actually the case. Besides there are several clues that indicate it won't be a yearly thing.
First of all, EA titles that are yearly releases always has a number in the title (e.g. Madden 24, F1 23, Fifa 23, etc.). This is not the case here as it's called EA Sports WRC and not EA Sports WRC 23.
Secondly, the 5 VIP Season Passes suggest that we won't get any new game until 2025. Seasons usually are 3 to 4 months long in the gaming world (if I remember correctly). So 5x3 = 15 | 5x4 = 20 suggests the next WRC game after this one will release between January and June of 2025 (most likely around February/March). Perfect timing for the 2025 eSports series to kick off whilst the real WRC Championship is getting underway.
Sometimes, all you need is a bit of logical thinking. Haha
I suspect the series will get a new game roughly every two years.
It also gives the dev team enough time to make significant improvements for the next one because they want to go a lot further with the Unreal engine than what they managed so far.
@@SimsRacingDesign that’s some great investigative work! I’m not too fussed if it’s only every two years. I lasted that long playing each DR, we only had to endure D4 in the middle of those two 😆
Some kind of regular, if not frequent, sequelling (if that’s a word?) will be satisfactory. There have been times when I’ve thought “I got F1 2017, then F1 2018… I can’t be bothered with ‘19, it won’t be revolutionary enough to justify buying another new game” so a longer than yearly iteration will probably be a good thing!
@@jack4688 Yeah, D4 was a bit of a miss... Afterwards they decided to split the two franchises. Since then, DiRT Rally has it's own dev team and game series which is now EA Sports WRC, and DiRT has there own, focusing on the more arcadey and crazy rally/rally raid titles like DiRT5.
I would be very happy if the experience of this new WRC was identical to the inertial and responsive driving of the Colin McRae car in the DiRT game!! I will have HOPE :D
Should feel familiar for those that played DR2.0.
A great and informative video .. well done and thank you .
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment.
I was hoping for the split screen 2 player option. Me and my flat mate have been playing WRC 6 to Generations for the past year and its a lot of fun. F1 has got the option so was hoping for it in this new release.
Who knows... We'll learn more about that in the upcoming weeks or months.
Fantastic update video
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment.
Thank you for the video - this is all very promising and I'm now even more excited!
Thanks, mate! Appreciate the compliment. Let's go!
I’m newer to rally games. Love dirt so far but can’t wait for this. Seems like a lot of stuff is coming with this.
I hope. The tarmac is a bit better, maybe it’s just me but I can’t figure out how to go faster with out losing it. Prob a skill issues lol.
30km stages will wreck me haha. The long ones in dr2 are a grind for me.
no the tarmac in both dirt rally games is basically undrivable. it behaves like gravel with the grip turned up
@@tgmrsch ok. Ive heard that. Good to know it’s not mostly me.
Tarmac will be vastly improved upon.
Btw if you want some tips and tricks, there's an instruction video on the channel going into detail on how you can master the (Spanish) tarmac. I think it worth checking out for you. 😉
@@tgmrsch I feel there is some truth to that. However I wouldn't say undriveable... It's all about technique and setup really.
Setup matters a lot for tarmac in dirt. But also the tarmac physics are horrendous.
But will CodeMasters finally bring back Super Special Stages from their early rally titles, like which are already present in the Kylotonn games? Because this is something that should really be in an official game, but also because they are lots of fun and would be fantastic for simultaneous online head to head play 😁
nice video. commenting to boost algorithm
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment and support.
Would love to see some traffic. Catching slower cars on course or in my case being passed by quicker ones. See or entries off in the weeds. Maybe warning triangles and broke down entries once in awhile. PS; Something no other rally sim has
Amazing video. Thanks.
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment.
Real world stages is a big seller for me, especially if the handling model is like dirt 2.0. Hopefully the games playable at a decent level with a controller (just don’t have the room for a proper setup)
They've always been able to have decent gamepad implementation in the past so should be fine. 😉
Dirt 2.0 is my fav game , so hyped for this hope the engine sounds are good and Phil mills is available for co driver ...pre ordered on steam 10% discount
Don't think many would mind the 08 impreza being replaced by 03 or 05 😬 but they've used the 08 so much, it's hard not to imagine they just include it.
I love the 08
@@GDUBMX Ah, it didn't feel like a 'real' scooby with the hatch. Also, we've seen it so much in games for years, I'm sure most would prefer to see 03 or 05 in a new game 🙂
@@snoopycharlie8718my ultimate wish would be the replace the 01 with the 03 and the 08 with the 06/07. 😅 One can only dream. I'm bored with the 01 as we've seen it in soooo many titles now.
@@SimsRacingDesign Agreed 😎 ha, but that's a bit greedy 🤭 Haven't had a good 03 or 06 model in a game for sooooo long! Why they so slow to add WRC Lancers do you know? I know you mentioned the Toyota thing but don't think there's conflict from Mitsubishi?
There shouldn't be but there are so many early 2000's WRC cars that it's difficult to please everyone. There are more successful cars there as well as cars that are more popular amongst the community, like the Seat Cordoba WRC Evo3 (one of my favourites), Skoda Octavia WRC, Ford Focus RS WRC 03 or Peugeot 307 WRC (preferably the 2005 version with the more aggressive front bumper). After that probably comes the 2005 Lancer WRC. Not counting the Xsara for example as that one's already confirmed to be in it.
I hope the hyundai accent wrc will be in it too😊
It could be but I believe there are far nicer/more logical additions they could put in. Besides, that car was an absolute disaster all-round back in its day, especially when it comes to the turbo. 😅
I thought this game was going to be a letdown but the more I see the more I like it. Hopefully we'll have good gameplay and more stages confirmed (please monte carlo). I'm getting excited!
Monte Carlo is already confirmed. It's part of the official 2023 calendar and there's a promo image of Hyundai on one of the Monte stages. In the image you can see the start of an iconic stage that starts in La Bollène-Vésubie. 😉
@@SimsRacingDesignwoooohooooo !!!!! 🚗💨
Now that made me anxious for the release of this game. I was afraid of the lenght of stages, Dirt Rally series only had around 10km at longest as far as I remember, hopefully in this one each race will have a stage similar to the epics of WRC series, very long and challenging let's wait, fingers crossed.
30+km stages will be there which is longer than those in the previous WRC series.
Rally Indonesia?!?! Time to get the next-gen console for me!!
Nice!
I appreciate the shoutout! Hopefully my guess is correct 🤞
You deserved that! 😎
I'm 99% convinced you are.
Hope this got some realistic driving physics, else way it doesnt matter how great graphics or sounds it got, it'll be rubbish. You have space ship games separate
Graphics look rough dnt look next Gen at all
I was expecting a bigger jump as well. We don't know whether they are actually using UE4 or UE5.
Really hope they put the Disk brakes on the inside of the wheels for launch . Lancia at 6:31 seemingly has the carry over (DR2) external disks .
Great video good information Many thanks
Those are not the brake discs. 😉 Those devices on the front rims are used to help aircool the front brakes a lot better on tarmac events because they used to overheat easily without.
Here's an example of that device on the car in real life: cutt.ly/AwzTczMN
@@SimsRacingDesign Excellent - my ignorance has been lessened by a couple of points . Pretty soon Ill be on par with a gold fish :)
@@ochsosfollies Hahaha brilliant! Not that far to go then in order to reach human kind, based on what people in the world these days say and do. 🤣
I'm looking forward to that game Rally
I really hope they add a ‘realistic assist’ setting so all the cars can easily be used with their actual real life options.
Can you elaborate on that a bit more? Don't think I follow entirely.
@@SimsRacingDesignsome group B cars didn’t have handbrakes etc and some need clutch to shift
@@SimsRacingDesign Yes of course. This is very relevant to historic cars. Some sims/games have a global setting that gives all cars their realistic default of what gear change and assists they have. For example a 1960s Fulvia would have H-pattern, clutch and no access to ABS or TC. An early 2000s car would have access to TC, ABS, and paddle shifters, a post 2011 car wouldn’t have paddle shifters or access to ABS.
I’m no expert on all the WRC rules by any means and it would be nice to have an option for the game to set these things automatically. It’s not for everyone but anyone with a full on rig might find this very useful.
@@splatracer7726 Would indeed be nice if that were an option but the vast majority of players use the same configuration no matter the car.
The important thing is that you are at least able to drive the cars as they were intended to be driven (H-pattern, sequential, TC, ABS, etc.) but you have to manually select those assists. Besides, it's not overly complicated or takes a long time to do though so I think it's quite alright. Very low priority feature on the dev team's list.
@@ultrabonkpcgaming9247 Actually, as far as I know, all of them had handbrakes but using them would normally break either the handbrake itself or the car (e.g. diffs).
thinking about the wrc class cars listed, the wording says from 1997 to 2011, so I think that in addition to the Mini, we will also see the fiesta, the polo (already present in dirt rallies) and if God sends us well also the first Hyundai i20, or the citroen ds3
sorry for my bad English
It wouldn't make sense to add more than one car from that era.
The WRC 2017-2021 only has 2 cars and they got their own class.
In other words, the dev team would've created a separate car class for them (WRC 2011-2016) which is not the case.
@@SimsRacingDesign but if that were the case, they wouldn't have put the mini, and above all the wrc class they would have had to rename it until 2010
Yes, but the Mini is in there and will be the only one from that particular era so in order to put it in a class they went for 1997-2011 instead of 1997-2010.
So excited for this one. Although i still love wrc 9 and dirt 2.
I can't wait. I love this game. Let's gooooooooooooo
You and me both mate!
30 kms stages. So there will be 17 locations with one 30 km stage which will be split to make all the rally stages. You will be driving the same stage forward and reversed. Not much variety in a rally.
In an actual rally event there's far less variation then in the past as well. Vast majority of stages are run at least twice.
But aside from that. There might be locations where the actual real life event doesn't have a 30km stage.
For those we'll get two separate stage that'll combine for 30 to 40 km, I suspect.
Of course also cut up and reversed to make the amount of 12 stages per location total.
Yes, it's common to have repeat stages in a rally, but driving the same piece of road (cut up) back and forth is not rallying. At least 4 distinct stages per event would be better, no matter the length.
Yeah it would be but it all comes down to time and resources which are never unlimited. That's the main reason things are the way they are.
@@SimsRacingDesignpeople complaining about "lack" of ground quickly forgot the few stages that the first dirt game had. I got bored trying to complete all the categories on that... I'll be honest, at first I was unconfortable with the license of WRC going to codemaster/EA but now the thing is getting bright to me, imagine yourself racing through a long stage trying to save the tyres while the weather is twisting and affecting the surface, man! for me that's the idea of a rally sim, let's wait guys.
Be good if they got irish stages in the game they have great tarmac stages.
Would be amazing but I fear it's not happening this time around. Wouldn't rule it out for a future title.
Get hyped, get dissapointed.
Time will tell but I'm fairly convinced we won't be disappointed.
@@SimsRacingDesign I think it will be a mess. Hell, I can't even set up field of view to comfortable degree in DR 2, guess we will play RBR NGP forever ')
@@AnaICarnaval that'll be your loss. 😉 It's another great game to add to the collection.
30 kilometers and NO Rallycross!? Really? That was the best fun ever....seriosly dissspointing. No buy here
@@sj460162 it's not their fault as I explained in a reply to one of your other comments. 😉
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Chiusdino del Rally Sanremo!!!
Both EA and CM have always been way better at hype than delivery.
I wouldn't say that from CM... EA is a different matter.
@@SimsRacingDesign Each to their own.....but when have CM ever really delivered? It's taken fourteen (full price!) releases to get F1 into its mediocre current state. Dirt is junk. Grid is junk. Project Cars is junk. Promises, promises. Both parties are hype merchants IMO whose PR is way better than their actual product.
@@CurtOntheRadio I didn't hear you mention DiRT Rally... Just so you know, the DiRT franchise has been completely separate from DiRT Rally for the past decade.
It's that DR dev team who is responsible for EA Sports WRC. I mean the DiRT Rally series has been hugely successful. Just look at the number of active players today compared to its rivals.
@@SimsRacingDesign I know.
Thanks for the vid
You are welcome, mate. Hope you enjoyed it and learnt something. 😉
what? no way that resembled indonesia rally. I'm excited and happy if I'm wrong though
I myself am 99% sure it is Indonesia.
Those locations (Corsica, Norway as well) seem implausible for a WRC game but remember this might be content that was in development for the cancelled DR3 before codies got the WRC license
@@jack4688 Exactly. That's why they are additional locations aside from the official WRC calendar.
I hope for F2 kit cars ,the 306 maxi,xsara kitcar, renault maxi megane, seat ibiza kit car, golf kit car, and why not adding s1600 aswell?
Those F2 Kit Car predictions look very plausible.
There will also be a S1600 class in the game.
FULL CAR LIST:
WRC Cars
Ford Puma Rally1 HYBRID
Hyundai i20 N Rally1 HYBRID
Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 HYBRID
WRC2 * Cars
Citroën C3 Rally2
Ford Fiesta Rally2
Hyundai i20 N Rally2
ŠKODA Fabia Rally2 Evo
ŠKODA Fabia RS Rally2
Volkswagen Polo GTI R5
Junior WRC
Ford Fiesta Rally3
World Rally Cars 2017-2021
Ford Fiesta WRC
Volkswagen Polo 2017
World Rally Cars 1997-2011
Citroën C4 WRC
Citroën Xsara WRC
Ford Focus RS Rally 2001
Ford Focus RS Rally 2008
MINI Countryman Rally Edition
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI
Peugeot 206 Rally
Seat Córdoba WRC
ŠKODA Fabia WRC
SUBARU Impreza 1998
SUBARU Impreza 2001
SUBARU Impreza 2008
Rally2 *
Ford Fiesta R5 MK7 Evo 2
Peugeot 208 T16 R5
Rally4 Cars
Ford Fiesta MK8 Rally4
Opel Adam R2
Peugeot 208 Rally4
Renault Twingo II
NR4/R4
McRae R4
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
SUBARU WRX STI NR4
S2000
Fiat Grande Punto Abarth S2000
Opel Corsa S2000
Peugeot 207 S2000
S1600
Citroën C2 Super 1600
Citroën Saxo Super 1600
Ford Puma S1600
Renault Clio S1600
F2 Kit Cars
Ford Escort Mk 6 Maxi
Peugeot 306 Maxi
Renault Maxi Mégane
Seat Ibiza Kit Car
Vauxhall Astra Rally Car
Volkswagen Golf IV Kit Car
Group A
Ford Escort RS Cosworth
Lancia Delta HF Integrale
Mitsubishi Galant VR4
SUBARU Impreza 1995
SUBARU Legacy RS
Group B (4WD) Car List
Audi Sport quattro S1 (E2)
Ford RS200
Lancia Delta S4
MG Metro 6R4
Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 2
Group B (RWD)
BMW M1 Procar Rally
Lancia 037 Evo 2
Opel Manta 400
Porsche 911 SC RS
H3 (RWD)
BMW M3 Evo Rally
Ford Escort MK2 McRae Motorsport
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
Lancia Stratos
Opel Ascona 400
Renault 5 Turbo
H2 (RWD)
Alpine Renault A110 1600 S
Fiat 131 Abarth Rally
Ford Escort MK2
Hillman Avenger
Opel Kadett C GT/E
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
H2 (FWD)
Peugeot 205 GTI
Peugeot 309 GTI
Volkswagen Golf GTI
H1 (FWD)
Lancia Fulvia HF
MINI Cooper S
Vauxhall Nova Sport
Builder Cars
WRC Builder Car
WRC2 Builder Car *
Junior WRC Builder Car
* All WRC2 cars can compete in the Rally2 car class.
Yes yes yes... Let's get dirty... 🥰
wish it had a 307 wrc😳
There is still a chanse it'll make it in the game. It's on my prediction list. We'll know for sure in the upcoming weeks.
If they nail the tarmac I might be able to overlook EA's ever looming greed. Improved tyre model and weird camber physics would be absolute nectar
Should have considerable improvements on the tarmac side of things. The dev team are most definitely aware of the issues with it and have made it one of their main priorities for EA Sports WRC.
@@SimsRacingDesign sounds promising. thx for the news and video. not that they could change it now, but besides the tire model and handling I am hoping for on the fly brake bias adjustment as we have it in almost all other sims for circuit racing. and as one can adjust it in the setup why not during the stage.
also it would be great to play around with the tires more. i.e. taking 2 spares for the long loops with the 30 km stages and then switch them around like irl and actually make use of them instead of driving them around for nothing most of the time.
@@roccorallye8923 that would be fantastic. We'll have to wait for more info on that.
Thanks for the compliment. Really appreciate that.
Don’t know if someone already said it but I’m calling at least one USA locations as the extra, perhaps even two…
Would like that but won't be the case.
Every event in the game is part of the official WRC calendar or has been on it at some point in the past.
Don't recall any WRC USA events being organised so far.
I wished they will make like a rbr 2 ,but that will never happen
But ok ,its a new rally game ,yey 😁
If EA use the power of Codemaster. I belive this could be good rally game,
Definitely agree on that.
Is there any information about support for VR? There is a big amount of people who are dedicated to using VR headsets including myself. I don't know if I can expect to see it if game is running on Unreal.
Great video, looking forward to hearing more details.
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment.
To have an answer to you question, I'd suggest watching the first video I put on the channel about EA Sports WRC. 😉
coming after launch for PC, sometime in 2024! If this turns out good will have to fix my handbrake!
Assists are all well and good but let's hope they actually tell us 'novices' what the tuning settings will do. Can't wait to oversteer in my beloved Stratos 🥲
No idea about that specifically just yet but it's definitely possible. If not, there will be TH-camrs who are going to be able to help you. 😉
@@SimsRacingDesign Think I've still got notes from last time 😂
They did that in Dirt Rally 2.0, so I would expect it will be in this too.
@@mechanicalpants It might have been added, but I swear it was missing on launch but I could be thinking of a KT WRC game
@@beyond72deepsoulfulhousemixes Could be, because I only started playing it recently. But they did also have explanations for every tuning adjustment in Dirt Rally 1 as well.
I wish they would add a wrc Ireland stages would be a dream for Irish rallying ❤️🇮🇪
That would indeed be brilliant. Won't happen this time but I wouldn't rule it out for one of the future titles.
would love to see rally Japan as its basically touge but in the style of rally
Rally Japan is in the game as it's part of the official 2023 WRC calendar.
Good vid keep it up.
Thanks mate!
We actually need grip on asphalt thx
That's been something they put very high on their priority list for EA Sports WRC.
They were very aware of the issues with the tarmac handling in DR2.0.
@@SimsRacingDesign yeah i said it cause of that the car in DR 2.0 feeled like gelatine goin from a side to another aint matter what surface.... a WRC Generations like physics will be great but in a code style
just inmagine what if it bugbear aka creators wreckfest. making this official wrc video game.
Dirt Rally on Unreal Engine sounds like half terabyte of disk space
The sound track needs to contain Jewelled by Propaganda
I hope a lot of cars carry over from dirt rally 2.0
Most of them will though I have a feeling that a small number of them will be replaced by completely new ones to the this series or the older DiRT Rally franchise.
That intro 😅
#SorryNotSorry
Hahaha glad you enjoyed it. It's always nice to have more news coming out. Impeccable timing... 😂
You do realize that the 30 km stage will be the entire country location, which will then be chopped up in 5 smaller stages, which will then also be reversed, and the game will be advertised as having 11 stages per location, right? :D
Have you watched my first video? If you did, you'd know the answer to your question. 😉 Haha
I'm not new to the Codies rally scene, my friend.
How is there not a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo? WTF? One of the most iconic rally cars.
There is are multiple Mitsubishi Lancer Evos in the game. The Evo VI Group A (WRC 1997-2011 class) and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X R4.
@@SimsRacingDesign excellent thanks for letting me know. Are there any Lancia's.......eg Delta integrale?
@@scugniz Yes, we have the Delta HF Integrale Evo2, Delta S4 Group B, 037 Evo2 and Fulvia HF.
I wonder if it'll finally be something to beat RBR
For some it might, for others not. Somewhat subjective in regards to what people prefer. But objectively, we'll have to wait and see. RBR physics does have a number flaws as well.
I have a weird hope - that they nail the car sounds. Its been extremelt underwhelming so far
True when it comes to the KT Racing WRC games. Now it's developed by Codemasters and they know how to design audio. Just listen to the cars in DR2.0. Brilliant.
Really annoying watching replays and the cars look like hovercrafts, I see the same happens here, small detail I know but really important if you enjoy watching replays
Let's wait and see... Things are going to be improved significantly, especially on tarmac where the effect is most noticeable.
Not mentioning Portugal is a huge mistake, not only because it´s a great location but also because it´s one of the most iconic rallies ion the World, and one of the oldest., not to mention that it´s been one of the driver´s favorite. Ahhh, also Portugal has been considered The Best Rally in the World for a huge number of Years-
But Portugal is already confirmed. It's part of this year's WRC calendar so it's a given to be in the game. Also mentioned it in the first video, if you haven't watched it.
@@SimsRacingDesign no I haven´t, sorry for that....! BY BAD!🤣
@@_PSantos No worries! Always check first.
Staering Wheels thrustmaster 360 rs ?
how is player build mode cars going to effect the vehicle handling model?
That's something we don't know yet. More information will be available in the next few weeks/months before release.
You utter ba- AUDI NOISES 👹👹
Haha I couldn't resist but it's just meant as a little joke. Nothing serious. 🤣
I'm still interested in this but honestly this is just Dirt Rally ported to Unreal Engine. Visually outdated, the handling differences will probably be negligible. It's just Dirt Rally 2.5 with WRC license. I was expecting far more given how many years have passed and they skip last-gen consoles.
Visually I was expecting a bit of bigger jump as well like I mentioned in the first video. However, aside from that things will be vastly improved. And we're getting plenty of new locations, 30+km stages, over 20 new cars, new modes like builder,...
You really can't call that DR2.5. More like DR3.5. Basically DR3 with the official WRC content mixed in.
@@SimsRacingDesign The variety of locations is what really sells me the game currently. At least the content will be there. But in everything else it looks like a half-baked effort to me, as if EA didn't provide enough resources for it, hence the "recycled" DR 2.0 visuals and physics. I was hoping for a truly brand new game, something that rivals F1 in its production values.
@@gabor-toth We haven't seen enough of the visuals yet in my opinion. We don't know which game built we saw in the footage but it's definitely one that's several months old.
The release version might be better visually, especially when you can adjust the settings on PC to your personal liking.
The DR2.0 physics model is a good starting point, especially when it comes to gravel and snow.
"Recycled" is a not the right word to use in this context. It'll be physics model 2.0 with improvements for gravel and snow as well as major adjustments for tarmac.
Wheel support is a no brainer, right? Right? RIGHT??
Yes
Yeah super cool. But address triple screen. Is it happening? We are a major community. Surely it aint hard to please us
If you would use Google for 5 seconds you would have you're answer
I mentioned it in the first video but in short: yes.
Having a rally1 builder mode is strange when all of the cars are basically the same.
Is that not the point tho. To make something a bit different to the current rally1 format
Well, sure they use the same hybrid system and need to have a certain engine displacement but other than that, they are vastly different.
Besides you'll have to work around a budget, buying bits on the spare market etc. It'll be very interesting to see how it all comes together.
Yes, and there will be a vast number of options, obviously. lol. As if.
@@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm3937 If you can invent your own regulations for cars that would be very cool.
just imagine rally Ireland Sim
Won't happen this time around but definitely wouldn't rule it out for a future title in the series.
Do you have a link to the interview?
It's in the description of the video, mate. 😉
@@SimsRacingDesign Yes it is. My nose are to big for twitch.. 😅
Please, for the love of god, give me triple screen support.
There will be triple screen support. Unsure if it'll be proper triple screen support or not. We'll have to wait and see for that one.
@@SimsRacingDesign as long as there is something to make adjustments then i will be fine. Thats the main reason I never spent much time on the Dirt Rally or the WRC titles. I didnt spend this much money on equipment to use hood view lmao. Great video BTW
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment and support!
Will it be real life stages from like portugal, croatia and so..
They all real
Yes, they should be 1:1 recreations of real stages.
@@SimsRacingDesign That will be very good!
@@filipdrena2363 Might have to elaborate a bit more on that though.
The stages will be 1:1 recreations of real roads where the vast majority have been part of a real stage.
Sometimes there are a few issues with licensing which prevents them from using certain sections of road.
Very common element and not something the developers can do anything about.
@@SimsRacingDesign Yes, but at least one 1:1 real stage from every rally would be awesome!
I was really looking forward to buying a new xbox for this!! But NO Rallycross?? No deal! Really dissapointing....
Well, it's an officially licensed WRC game and not a normal DiRT Rally game so there's no room for World RX. Codemasters also is no longer in possession of the license for World RX.
It's not their fault or anything. Just the way things work.
Imagine if they got ireland in the game 🇮🇪
I would love an Irish tarmac event like Rally of the Lakes (Killarney) to be on the roster.
It won't be this time around but never say never.
Been pushing for my home event (Ypres Rally Belgium) for years as well but that hasn't happened either.
I'll try bribing officials next to get it back on the WRC calendar which would secure its spot in the game for that particular season. Haha
@@SimsRacingDesign funny actually that is also my home event and every year going on molls gap is a Must
@@Motorsportvidsyt I can imagine! Molls Gap must be a blast to go to. It's on my bucket list...
@@SimsRacingDesign it is a place of dreams 😍
Am I missing something, is there VR at all with this?
If you would've use Google for 5 seconds you have your answer
Yes, but it's PC exclusive and will come in an update post-launch.
Ok long trials of 30 km but also in wrc next gen there are long trials but they are the union of 3/4 trials of the same event.
None of them reached 30km in length.
@@SimsRacingDesign no but the important thing is that they don't use this expedient but that it is a totally different stage.
@@massimocoslovich I'm not exactly following at the moment. What do you mean by "expedient"?
@@SimsRacingDesign join 3/4 stages to make a single but long one like they did in wrc next gen
@@massimocoslovich But the result is exactly the same. Whether you design 3 separate ones and put them together to create a long one or create a long one and cut it into 3 separate ones.
maybe ds3 wrc and fiesta wrc they are from 2011
Unlikely. I don't expect any of those otherwise there would've been a separate class called WRC 2011-2016.
Pace notes in a downloadable PDF? Please!
Interesting... Why this request if I may ask? Curious to know what to use it for.
@@SimsRacingDesign Downloadable Pace Notes in a PDF so a Navigator can read. My setup…th-cam.com/video/qhuL7V3mIO0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WPpdVuL6anVORcuQ
@@SimsRacingDesign I was on Beta team for Dirt Rally 1 and I was the one that suggested clutch with sequential for clutch kicking when you bog down especially if you handbrake at a hairpin and lose revs, worse with old turbo setups.
@@1LibranRabbit nice to hear. Thanks for that. Why the downloadable PDF for pace notes? What would the purpose be?
@@SimsRacingDesign my rig is a 2x seater motion with rally intercoms, the pacenotes could be read by the navigator
Will all the pay for locations in Dirt Rally 2.0 be in the new game from luanch???
Not sure if parts or complete stages of DR2.0 will make it into the new game we might actually have completely new stages allround.
Hmm. Good question. Thing is, they're surely swapping to annual release schedule, a la F1, so you'll be paying for much the same content over and over for the next decade, if they have their way. So maybe they'll give more content initially and milk it over the coming years (iterating the same thing over and over) - rather than drip feed it for dollars as in the DR2 DLC model?
@@CurtOntheRadio So what You are saying is that there kind of want be a change from DR2.0 untill maybe 2030???
@@CurtOntheRadio first of all, don't take this the wrong way as it's definitely not my intention. 😉
It is fair to assume yearly releases but nothing's been confirmed yet.
Besides, isn't that what every (sim) racing title does. No matter of it's a new version or completely new game, it always has loads of the same content. Always the same circuits like Spa, Nurburgring, Monza, etc. and cars/classes such as GT3, Le Mans Prototypes, etc. I never really hear any complaints about that, yet it's the exact same thing or even worse.
Also, having a game with so much iconic content, some of it is bound to be recycled. Would you be OK if a rally game didn't have the Audi Quattro S1 (E2) or the Lancia Delta S4, Subaru Impreza S5 WRC, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI, BMW M3, Lancia Stratos, Subaru Impreza Group A... Or iconic stage like Col du Turini, Fafe, El Chocolate, etc.
I mean, rally sim people would be rioting in the streets.
You should widen your perspective a bit to see the bigger picture.
@@SimsRacingDesign Oh, it's true that the whole scene is stale due to the same old content, over and over. People do complain about it - except for AssettoCorsa, where the complaint is rather "Do we need 300 different BMW 3 series?" :D
I'd call it a lack of delivery - there is no shortage of rally stages in UK, let alone across the world. But we always get the same ones, none of which have ever been done with any great fidelity.
Likewise for cars and handling - if they were really well done you wouldn't tire of them (and nor would they change much across titles let alone iterations of one title).
And just look at, say, Snowrunner and its handling of water and sludgey surfaces, suspension and grip etc. Light years ahead of anything any rally game has ever even tried to do, let alone deliver. Granted, Snowrunner is slow so there's more room/time for physics, but look at road surfaces on even this iteration of Dirt? It's pretty pathetic in my jaded opinion. :D And how about the deformation and breakage in BeamNG?
I've been watching and taking part in this process of hype and disappointment since the early 1980s so I'm a bit long in the tooth to buy into new promises. But in forty years the progress has been really minimal, given hardware constraints have completely disappeared from POV of even twenty years ago. Not good enough.
Jaded :D
so its not a official wrc game ? we dont have all official stages and real drivers career mode ?
It will have all the cars, teams, drivers and liveries from the 2023 WRC season. It will also have all the locations from the 2023 WRC season. The stages will be actual 1:1 recreations of real world stages from those locations whenever they are able to do it. Licensing might cause some issues for certain stretches of road though.
thanks
thanks
You are very welcome!
Will this game be available on Xbox one?
Unfortunately not. It releases for PC, PS5 and Xbox X/S.
is it unreal 5.1-5.3?
We don't know. Might even be UE4 with bits of UE5. So far we have no clue.
Sony should cancel this game for ps5 if ea dont support their new hardware psvr2.
With the move to the Unreal engine and PSVR2 being somewhat new, it's understandable to not have it. Will come in a future title for sure but not this one.
I would like to see a time penalty for those using bonnet cam view !! as opposed to using cockpit view !! the reason is this when using bonnet cam view you have a distinct advantage over cockpit view as you can see much further ahead and also the force feed back seems seems much weaker ?? Also they state that this is a rally sim so therefore especially in the esports competitions competitors should be made to use cockpit view as bonnet view is just too arcadey ? yes i understand and accept that its to each individuals preference which view you use i myself prefer more simlike /immersion so always use cockpit view as since when does a real wrc rally driver sit in the centre of a car and look out over the centre of the bonnet they mostly sit on the left hand side !! Now im not the fastest but im certainley not the slowest but when using bonnet view i was knocking off 10 to 15 seconds off my stages i had done in cockpit view !! anyone have an opinion on this ?
For online clubs that's already a thing. In the settings for the club events, you can force everyone to use cockpit cam for example.
I always use bonnet cam as cockpit view is just staring at a tv with a restrictive view. It’s absolutely nothing like driving a car. Unless you have a windscreen size tv 😂
@@Lee-fn6enI swap between the 3rd person and hood cam. The 3rd person help me learn how the car reacts to weight shifts and it helps learning a stage.
And there’s nothing wrong with that! I’ll use a wheel for this game but for games that I use a pad like the new crew game, I’ll use 3rd person cam all the time. I think people get too into racing games and end up sitting in there living room in a pair of gloves 😂
@@Lee-fn6en exactly. but apparently it's only driving with half your tv obscured with crappy gfx of a cockpit that is "realistic".
i really hope they have updated the handling model about 200 times. in dirt rally 2 its like the cars dont have suspension or weight transfer at all. left foot braking in a fwd makes the car understeer instead of overstearso its imposible to drive the cars as they are supposed to be driven.
Improvements will be made, with the main priority being tarmac.
In your case, I think you might need to look at adjusting your driving style a bit in combination with finding a car setup that fits your style.
The default ones aren't always ideal for everyone as each of us has their own driving style.
Personally, I've always felt the cars were very intuitive to drive. With certain setup adjustments, they behaved exactly as I would expect them to do in real life.
@@SimsRacingDesign no, i dont need to adjust my driving style, the game has to get better. a special setup shouldnt be needed for the car to act like a car but if its the right setup for me it should make me faster.
@@SimsRacingDesign if I'm going to grossly exaggerate, the cars in dirt rally 2 behave like scalextric cars where the 4wd cars are attached to the track in the middle under the car, fwd in the back and rwd in the front. rallycross in iracing has gotten it pretty good where you can really use the brake and gas to control and steer the car. and since im raised in a rally crazy family with 6 national titles and 5 wins at wrc events i really want this to be good.
That is indeed an exaggerated way of describing things. Jon Armstrong wouldn't allow the physics to be like that to be honest.
From which rally dynasty are you a member of, if I may ask?
@@SimsRacingDesign i wouldnt say im a member of it but my stepfather was a part of the service team and his cousin was the driver so as a kid i spent many hours in the garage watching them work on the car and since its ~30 years ago during the era of free service i followed along in the chase car on some smaller events. he was a factory driver for opel.
Why the McRae R4 this never got passed the protype stages and never moved forwards after his passing. the Mini never really did anything other than live off the originals fame BMW never put any support behind the program at WRC levels. the Xsara is a legend car so a no brainer.
this is however a EA game so they can hype it all they want I would guess lots of content is going to hidden behind a paywall . ever rally fan will be wanting their favourite rally car to driver. and if that is only those cars that won the WRC that's is a lot of extra content. if you look at the two all time Favourites both from Group B neither went on the claim the WRC title the Audi Quattro S1 E1 and the Delta S4 are cars that have to be part of any game claiming to be WRC. as for this build your own cars just how is that going to work EA must add limits to what makes of cars can be used I do not see them adding an Automation style build your complete own design. this has to be more like the Tuning modes found in Forza or GT7 were you can engine swap change the layout of the car anything more complex is going to lead to major balancing problems with the game play.
Unreal engine seeing how long it took Assetto Corsa to get a driving sim to work using that platform I do not hold my hopes up for EA putting that sort of work into development. yes its makes for visually stunning world but it has its limits less things have changed.
It all sounds good but EA do not have the best record with game innovation they may make a big effort for this first edition but it will just turn into another serialised Game like FIFA and F1 . I do hope I am wrong though.
The McRae R4 passed the prototype phase and has competed in (national) events, as far as I know. The main reason it's added, is pretty simple... It's Colin's own rally car project and he is the reason we had the Colin McRae Rally and DiRT Rally games, and eventually this new WRC series.
All the content that has and will be revealed in the monts leading up to the release will be part of the standard game. So all 18 locations, 78 cars, etc. will be there and not hidden behind a paywall. That's a fact.
The body shells for the builder mode feature will be fictional ones, losely based on real car models. You'll be able to build a car that fits within the rules of Rally3, Rally2 or Rally1. You might be able to do more but you won't be able to use them in championships such as Junior WRC, WRC2 or WRC. They will figure something out though. Some sort of open class based on power output and engine layout or drivetrain configuration.
Something important to remember here is that EA isn't developing this game. It's Codemasters, who fall under the EA framework after they were bought by them. EA is just more or less the publisher in this case and Codemasters are the developers.
When it comes to the serialised element you bring up. I'm not sure this is the case. At least not from the beginning. All the games you mentioned, have numbers in their title (FIFA 23, F1 23, etc.). EA Sports WRC does not.
Add to that the fact we'll have 5 VIP season passes, each season normally lasting 3 or 4 months, suggests that there won't be a new one until early 2025. That also gives the developers time enough to work out the kinks and upgrade to a newer version of Unreal. I have my suspicion, the first WRC game will use UE4 (with certain UE5 features perhaps). By 2025, they could move over to UE5.2 or even 5.3 which would be truly amazing.
Looks like a copy and paste or generations 0.5 to me typical
EA.
Ooooh you'll eat those words once you get your hands on it. Mark my words. 😉
It's going to eclipse WRC Generations.
@SimVansevenant We will see and I really hope your right 👍
@@oootaffooo501 you and me both. 😉