NOPE. At this point, since I already have an original 15-key and an XL, the next one on my list is the plus 👏 OH and also...the word of the day is QUIRKY 🤣
@@Chief_Justice_Live That's really odd to me. I'm running a Loupedeck Live S (15 "button" touchscreen with four additional buttons and two encoders) and it works perfectly with OBS 29.0.2. Is there some way that the Loupedeck software bundled with the Razer software installation was an older version? Whenever a yellow light comes on in the software (I only know for OBS) it means that OBS isn't running and the software can't hook into it.
Half of hardware is the software. If it's not up to snuff then it's not worth it. Though the only good thing is that it's making competition (kinda). Competition is always great in this market but it's only great if it's actually competing. For the golden rule being "there is no bad product just a bad price", this should have been $20-&50 bucks cheaper given the fact the software isn't as good. Also, they are wasting their time and money on useless features which will be passed onto you, the buyer. So with that no, but if they made some changes that were worth something then yes.
Eeeehh.. The Teams plug in honestly inst all that impressive. It really doesnt do that much functionally aside from mice mute, camera and call disconnect.
As with most razer products (outside of some of them being cheaply made) is the software. Razers software suite is absolute garbage for just about everything. In their slight defense though its really Loupedeck's software, which is effectively what all the "razer" decks are.
Just a heads up. Half of why i want a StreamDeck, i mean Controller X is because I would use it half the time for work functions. In the Logistics/Industrial industry, knowing which weak of the year you are in is actually a crucial stat. Usually something they make specific calendars for it.
I hear you. I work with a company that uses a Julian calendar and something like which day of the year it is could be very handy... but none of our agents would really need a Controller SD which would make it a very expensive week of the year calendar :D :P Plus, I'm going to bet someone somewhere is going to make a plug in for that for the Stream Deck :P
TBH, Razer was the original stream deck. The Razer Switch blade and prototypes were out many years ago which was essentially a LCD/LED button panel. They just didn't capitalize on it.
if razer added a hub to it, it would sell like crazy tho and Razer doesn't want that. edit: i'm also pretty sure that there is a mandate for their software to be troublesome.
I bet Razer had most of the influence on the design. One of Loupedeck’s first products was the Loupedeck CT which is a monster of a shortcut device. I have one and despite not using all the buttons they where doing something different which is why I spent way too much money on it. Even their more recent products that’s more like a stream deck where trying something different like adding knobs and profile buttons to a more stream deck like design and you know what, stream deck responded to that threat and released a product with knobs. Razer definitely said I want a stream deck clone and licensed Loupedeck to do it without any design suggestions from the Loupedeck team. Razer just saw this as a quick cash grab.
I like to use the stream deck for “interactive” gaming, for example say your playing a survival game that includes a lot of pick ups from the ground, I would add a key binding to stream deck for that pick up key binding so I’m “reaching out” to pick something when I push the button on the stream deck
There are use cases for the week button and I would prefer it tbh. A calendar week button would make my life easier. A lot of business management stuff relies on what CW it is
Dude why you complaining about a program that you never learned to use yet. Read the manual, who cares about it being similar to stream deck, there sure is room out there for other companies to make similar products.
That's precisely the point....I did not read the manual for Elgato....I was pretty easy to figure out....your comment does not invalidate his video summary...it reinforces his argument
Not being compatible with the latest (3 month old) version is more than a major red flag. That is literally unforgivable. No matter how good the rest of the product might be that alone has assured I will never buy this.
My biggest complaint with the Stream Deck is the buttons, they have a long travel and they are also way louder than they should be. The issue would be all the functionality of the Stream Deck - I assume this won't have most of that to start...and if you consider companion - well this can't compete.
The Week Button or Display is pretty nice, lets say you want to do a Event on lets say Week X then you will always be reminded when this will be, remembering Dates for specific things is way harder than weeks, i learned this in sales....
@Senpai Gaming I know you have done reviews on the GoXLR as well as the Razer audio interface. Would you be able to do a video review on the M-Game audio interface made by M-Audio???!!! Seems to be really nice
Newly subbed to your channel and loving it 🤩🥰👍! I have the Legato Stream Deck Medium (15 button model) (not for streaming) for ‘working from home’ stuff and gaming and it’s a great tool for enhancing my pc experience etc 🥳💪. I scored it here in Australia 🇦🇺 late 2022 for roughly $89USD on sale and it’s been a godsend for me. The Razer model shown as mentioned is simply a ‘copy n paste’ model for more $$$ 🤦🤦♀🙈. I always felt that an integrated usb 3.0 hub (4-port) would have made this an endgame product for everyone to have in their pc setup.
I stopped using my streamdeck years ago when I found out about touch Portal, there's other web alternatives but still for hardware usage touch Portal beats out the stream deck and this knockoff.
as a person who owns a Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2 i know exactly what your talking about when you say you don't like the Synapse Software, everytime i want to change my lights I feel reluctant to fire up the program just because it's so poorly designed.
"It is possible to have too many options. I don't think anybody needs that." LMAO No doubt! I can't remember the last time I informed ANYONE as to what week of the year we were in.
I just really hate the sound that buttons make on all these types of products. My mic picks it up and it's very lame to head that clunky button sound right before and effect or transition.
they use the same button as Razer Death Stalker Ultimate back in 2012. very limited software, but cool to have haha. I hope I can re purpose the software no?
The software is the cause why I dumped my two Loupedeck devices in a box and set up my Streamdeck. EDIT: The worst thing about the Loupedeck software is that it was way better when still in beta some time ago. I used to be a tester and all of a sudden they changed the layout to what you now get.
I dont have a Razer But I have a Loopdeck and I think you are absolutly right. One topic you did not mention: There are really less Integrations for other Software. I tried IT and take it away from my desk. But to ge fair: I think the Streamdeck isn't as good as all youtubers are telling. In my opinion the wobaly partly loud Buttons are Bad quality. You ne er can be 100% sure, you have pressed it. Why is there still nö Button to navigate back to the last profile? Why cant I use the knobs of the Streamdeck + to navigate through pages or deine a list of action, rotate through the actions and then select one ( for example defining different light scenes and select one of them). Beide I think Elgato did not think until the end with the Design of the Streamdeck+ think Ing about Positions and size of the Buttons. I yust want to say, Elgato needs also to take several steps to make a really Great product
I wonder if the Stored Device Actions is more of a razer products compatibility thing. To make it easier to change device stored profiles on your Razer mice and keyboards.
For anyone who's confused about the "Week #" button, that's actually useful for people who live in a part of the world that uses week numbers when communicating dates. We don't use that in North America, but they use week numbers in places like Europe.
I kind of do that anyhow AKA profiles that you have to use.,... I deliberately made a profile page on the stream deck aka home switcher button and I just pick the profile I want to use and everything for that comes up plus on each profile there's 10 pages so I can do whatever with 240 icons and unlimited* profiles.... With one profile being default profile which I just cut copy and paste that to any new profiles I make so that the page layout is always the same previous page next page page number home switcher on every single page sure I lose a couple buttons but you have unlimited buttons at minimum 240 for stream deck XL
I have two razor products, a wireless mouse that charges itself on the mouse pad and a headset that vibrates inline with the base frequency. Both great product ideas (when they work) but both are clunky. After 2 years, today I'm replacing the mouse and mouse pad with Logitech. The razor mouse doesnt show a charged state (not even sure it has a battery actually) and has turned itself off too many times its just unreliable and will go in a sort of on off boot loop. The headset is amazing but the batter in it is too small and runs out within an hour. The synapse software is just bad. Going off these experiences i would avoid most razer products unless its a wired mouse...
Cool video. I have a Razer Stream Deck(Loupedeck Live) that I use mainly for video editing, while I love it and it has been very helpful, I agree that the software is atrocious. There is so many unneccesary steps that have to be taken to customize it and I dread opening the software everytime. I'm hoping they update the software to be more user friendly because if Elgato makes a device that is similar to the loupedcek live i'm jumping ship asap.
Meanwhile I am still out here using my 12 year old iPad mini with my 9 dollar Touch Portal installed on it because it does everything a StreamDeck can do. In fact most of the things that are doable on a Stream Deck were done first inside of Touch Portal, and will continue to be. Between Touch Portal and Streamer Bot I have never seen the need to buy a Stream Deck.
I really want more competition for the stream deck. The stream deck is probably one of the worst feeling hardware I’ve used, especially for the price. Even after exchanging it a few times they still have quirks and QA issues. Being able to use the Razer with Elgato’s software would be a pie in the sky dream 😭
I clicked as I was thinking, "That's Razer's idea of _"ripping off"_ the Steam Deck?? What kind of handheld console looks like _that_ , and where the heck is the screen??"............. durrrr
For one reason and one real reason only. Because it will make them money. That's it. Anything else anyone else says means nothing. They just want to make as much money as possible and I don't blame them
well, yes hotkeys, but the good part is you know which key is which, and in all the software you use.. if you get for example a dedicated keyboard, you are limited to that, or you need a really great memory.. with a stream deck/or this, you know what button what is by look..
9:00 about the rotation sounds absolutely fine. you are being unreasonable. more control is better than less control (toggle is less control). I dont have a loupe deck i have stream deck but I am assuming there may be a composite action, or a toggle action where you set up a button to accomplish a toggle, but without that I still think it is fine.
If you could use this hardware with the stream deck software it might have been perfect. I only have a few gripes on my stream deck experience, but nothing worth switching. 1. I have to manually launch the software every time the PC restarts. 2. Sliding around easily on the desk. 3. Obviously the mushy buttons. Seems like this solves at least the hardware flaws.
the weeknumber thing would be grand for me, i have switching shifts at work, almost no calendar has the weeknumber so every few weeks i'm stuck googling what week it is, to have it on a hotkey on my "stream deck" would believe it or not be a selling point for me
I brought the razer ripsaw capture card and the razer kiyo Pro camera and had nothing but issues with both (swapped to elgato and haven't had a single issue). I wouldn't even consider buying 1 of these over a stream deck. ✌️✌️
Evwr seen the Razer Deathstalker keyboard? Yeah. Very early OLED Keyboard. It SUCKED cause they wouldn't give anyone the SDK to it so there was no way to truely utilize it, which is why they slept on it until the Streamdeck
The problem I have is that the even the Elgato Streamdeck feels limiting to me in the worst possible way. Its around 100 bucks, and all I can do is press buttons... Then you have Touchportal which is like 12 bucks for the pro version, one time payment, and using an old phone I can have up to a 110 buttons per page and I think infinite pages. If I desire I can make Sliders instead of buttons and.. without hassle I can download pre-made pages off of the internet, icons included and use those straight out of the box, straight from their website or elsewhere like I did with a Star Citizen page that allows you to have easy access to spacecraft controls and other things without hassle. Kinda, sorta off topic here, possibly very rambly. It is ironic you talk about synapse being bad.. but then proceed to use a Logitech mouse... Synapse even with all the quirkiness, is still kilometers a head of the hot garbage that is Logitech G Hub. I dread using it every single time I my G29 steering wheel needs a little changing. It's the worst software I have used and the new Logitech Options is also worse than the older Logitech Options. SOmehow Logitech manages to make their software worse through iterations. Like.. the gesture button, I can't tell what shortcuts I assigend to specific gestures untill I click 2 more times to open the gesture botton's settings, then Click on the specific gesture, eventhough they have an image that displays what button is what on the page, razer has a similar style image and there it even shows the second key I bound to a key on the Tartarus Pro(Optical switch, I can set 2 actuation points for 2 independed keypresses) which makes it a lot more useful to me than anything logitech has made xD
Reviewed the Loupedeck Live S recently (including this software...) and it definitely has quirks for sure .... Overall the software felt nice though...
Razer has always been known for doing rebrands with OEM stuff, they did it with Avermedia capture cards years ago, now they do a Loupedeck one... I wouldn't even be surprised if their new mics were also rebrands from an OEM like fifine or the like lol. Wished they actually had a decent software for once, I have the old model of their capture card that it is compatible with PS2, yet I have never been able to make it work reliably, I just ended up getting one of those cheap PS2 hdmi output with a cheap capture card that seems to be the same as those 10$ ones, but has HDMI out, and even that worked better than the Razer one, like cmon Razer 😑
the answer to the title is, they didnt. Elgato just made a basic macro pad and put screens on it, linked it to their own stuff and claimed they were the first company to do it. gamers have been doing it for over a decade. Razor did the same thing but so have alot of other places.
I find it funny that you dislike Synapse, since I love Razer for it. It makes programming my mouse, keyboard, Tartarus and headphones so easy. Other programs like Logitech are just annoying.
Well if you look at the price a razor 15 key for 175,- or I saw one for 192.- or a streamdeck for 240 or less well why would I get a 15 key for 350.- instead of a streamdeck for 240,- 100 difference ! . more if the price is down on amazon prime or cyber Friday like that.
It looks like Razer's controllers are just rebranded Loupedeck hardware. Razer sells a what they call the "Razer Stream Controller" which looks identical to the "Loupedeck Live". Loupedeck is been making these devices for a while. All other quirkiness aside, why should I buy these things from Razer when I can go directly to Loupedeck? (No, Loupedeck doesn't have a version of the knobless Controller X but, I think, the question is still valid.)
Honestly, it's probably my favorite "Razer Rip-off" they've made. Now that the Stream Deck is back up to the same price, would you consider it?
No
Not compatible with the newest obs is likely that the new drivers aren't out yet. It was probably being shipped at the time obs was updating.
NOPE.
At this point, since I already have an original 15-key and an XL, the next one on my list is the plus 👏
OH and also...the word of the day is QUIRKY 🤣
@@Chief_Justice_Live That's really odd to me. I'm running a Loupedeck Live S (15 "button" touchscreen with four additional buttons and two encoders) and it works perfectly with OBS 29.0.2. Is there some way that the Loupedeck software bundled with the Razer software installation was an older version? Whenever a yellow light comes on in the software (I only know for OBS) it means that OBS isn't running and the software can't hook into it.
Half of hardware is the software. If it's not up to snuff then it's not worth it. Though the only good thing is that it's making competition (kinda). Competition is always great in this market but it's only great if it's actually competing.
For the golden rule being "there is no bad product just a bad price", this should have been $20-&50 bucks cheaper given the fact the software isn't as good. Also, they are wasting their time and money on useless features which will be passed onto you, the buyer.
So with that no, but if they made some changes that were worth something then yes.
The major advantage for stream deck is the plugins. They have everything you can possibly want including work related like Microsoft Teams.
Eeeehh.. The Teams plug in honestly inst all that impressive. It really doesnt do that much functionally aside from mice mute, camera and call disconnect.
Someone’s going to make a plug-in to integrate more plugins 😂
As with most razer products (outside of some of them being cheaply made) is the software. Razers software suite is absolute garbage for just about everything. In their slight defense though its really Loupedeck's software, which is effectively what all the "razer" decks are.
Textbook example of a product whose development team struggles to understand all the little details and nuances of why its competitor is so great.
Just a heads up. Half of why i want a StreamDeck, i mean Controller X is because I would use it half the time for work functions. In the Logistics/Industrial industry, knowing which weak of the year you are in is actually a crucial stat. Usually something they make specific calendars for it.
I hear you. I work with a company that uses a Julian calendar and something like which day of the year it is could be very handy... but none of our agents would really need a Controller SD which would make it a very expensive week of the year calendar :D :P Plus, I'm going to bet someone somewhere is going to make a plug in for that for the Stream Deck :P
Looking forward to the next firmware update that makes Synapse mandatory lol
yeh, they need to make all their stuff work without synapse.
TBH, Razer was the original stream deck. The Razer Switch blade and prototypes were out many years ago which was essentially a LCD/LED button panel. They just didn't capitalize on it.
This kinda is annoying for newer people who sometimes assumes more expensive is better and wouldn't mind the extra $20
Thank you for making StreamBeats and allowing everyone to use it for free. This video was cool. 🍻🍻🍻
I hope you had an amazing trip in Japan!
if razer added a hub to it, it would sell like crazy tho and Razer doesn't want that.
edit: i'm also pretty sure that there is a mandate for their software to be troublesome.
I bet Razer had most of the influence on the design. One of Loupedeck’s first products was the Loupedeck CT which is a monster of a shortcut device. I have one and despite not using all the buttons they where doing something different which is why I spent way too much money on it. Even their more recent products that’s more like a stream deck where trying something different like adding knobs and profile buttons to a more stream deck like design and you know what, stream deck responded to that threat and released a product with knobs. Razer definitely said I want a stream deck clone and licensed Loupedeck to do it without any design suggestions from the Loupedeck team. Razer just saw this as a quick cash grab.
I like to use the stream deck for “interactive” gaming, for example say your playing a survival game that includes a lot of pick ups from the ground, I would add a key binding to stream deck for that pick up key binding so I’m “reaching out” to pick something when I push the button on the stream deck
Look into adding a foot pedal as well 🍻
There are use cases for the week button and I would prefer it tbh. A calendar week button would make my life easier. A lot of business management stuff relies on what CW it is
Dude why you complaining about a program that you never learned to use yet. Read the manual, who cares about it being similar to stream deck, there sure is room out there for other companies to make similar products.
That's precisely the point....I did not read the manual for Elgato....I was pretty easy to figure out....your comment does not invalidate his video summary...it reinforces his argument
Not being compatible with the latest (3 month old) version is more than a major red flag. That is literally unforgivable. No matter how good the rest of the product might be that alone has assured I will never buy this.
Loupedeck software works fine with OBS 29 $$$$
This!
My biggest complaint with the Stream Deck is the buttons, they have a long travel and they are also way louder than they should be. The issue would be all the functionality of the Stream Deck - I assume this won't have most of that to start...and if you consider companion - well this can't compete.
The Week Button or Display is pretty nice, lets say you want to do a Event on lets say Week X then you will always be reminded when this will be, remembering Dates for specific things is way harder than weeks, i learned this in sales....
As a engineer i think this is also nice. When we are planning tasks only big factories we talk about years and split it up in weeks
@Senpai Gaming I know you have done reviews on the GoXLR as well as the Razer audio interface. Would you be able to do a video review on the M-Game audio interface made by M-Audio???!!! Seems to be really nice
Newly subbed to your channel and loving it 🤩🥰👍! I have the Legato Stream Deck Medium (15 button model) (not for streaming) for ‘working from home’ stuff and gaming and it’s a great tool for enhancing my pc experience etc 🥳💪. I scored it here in Australia 🇦🇺 late 2022 for roughly $89USD on sale and it’s been a godsend for me. The Razer model shown as mentioned is simply a ‘copy n paste’ model for more $$$ 🤦🤦♀🙈. I always felt that an integrated usb 3.0 hub (4-port) would have made this an endgame product for everyone to have in their pc setup.
razer started with the deathstalker, loved that keyboard
I stopped using my streamdeck years ago when I found out about touch Portal, there's other web alternatives but still for hardware usage touch Portal beats out the stream deck and this knockoff.
yep it does, and way more versatile.
Touch portal is a fucking monster
I have a Streamdeck but I mainly use Lioranboard/Sammi + App on my tablet
Razer: *makes something, anything. Headphones or something*
This friggin guy: they ripped off elgato.
seriously he is so crisp. Keep this layout holy cow
as a person who owns a Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2 i know exactly what your talking about when you say you don't like the Synapse Software, everytime i want to change my lights I feel reluctant to fire up the program just because it's so poorly designed.
"It is possible to have too many options. I don't think anybody needs that." LMAO No doubt! I can't remember the last time I informed ANYONE as to what week of the year we were in.
The fact that it doesn't keep upto date with the latest streaming software updates puts me off it entirely.
Honestly dude, I'd rather just invest in the Stream Deck+. For $50 extra, I'd get so much MORE usability.
I feel the same way when GoPro entered the drone field when DJI was the lead.
The only good thing is probably non"gummy" buttons that the stream deck has. If Elgato fixes this thing, Razer doesn't have to try.
that bed from future ahrris looks comfy as hell
I don't know... that week of the year function might be worth the extra $20... :D
I just really hate the sound that buttons make on all these types of products. My mic picks it up and it's very lame to head that clunky button sound right before and effect or transition.
Your room setup, lighting and colour is next level, I love it.
i love your videos
they use the same button as Razer Death Stalker Ultimate back in 2012. very limited software, but cool to have haha. I hope I can re purpose the software no?
The software is the cause why I dumped my two Loupedeck devices in a box and set up my Streamdeck.
EDIT: The worst thing about the Loupedeck software is that it was way better when still in beta some time ago. I used to be a tester and all of a sudden they changed the layout to what you now get.
Would you consider selling one of your loupedecks?
@@i_grind_4_mine_533 Actually no, I will test them from time to time. And since I come from Germany the shipping etc. would be a waste :-)
Regarding the week number, in some parts of the world we use that (much to my chagrin), so here it's about as useful as dates and clocks
11:00 student's favorite button display hahaha
This product summed up in one word:
Toggle
Your camera/room layout LOOKS AWESOME! 👀
I kinda like the Week options but ya I think they could have skipped that one
I dont have a Razer But I have a Loopdeck and I think you are absolutly right. One topic you did not mention: There are really less Integrations for other Software. I tried IT and take it away from my desk. But to ge fair: I think the Streamdeck isn't as good as all youtubers are telling. In my opinion the wobaly partly loud Buttons are Bad quality. You ne er can be 100% sure, you have pressed it. Why is there still nö Button to navigate back to the last profile? Why cant I use the knobs of the Streamdeck + to navigate through pages or deine a list of action, rotate through the actions and then select one ( for example defining different light scenes and select one of them). Beide I think Elgato did not think until the end with the Design of the Streamdeck+ think Ing about Positions and size of the Buttons. I yust want to say, Elgato needs also to take several steps to make a really Great product
I wonder if the Stored Device Actions is more of a razer products compatibility thing. To make it easier to change device stored profiles on your Razer mice and keyboards.
I kinda liked the "weeks" feature 😅 good video, I stream full time and will be going with the stream deck after watching this ❤
For anyone who's confused about the "Week #" button, that's actually useful for people who live in a part of the world that uses week numbers when communicating dates. We don't use that in North America, but they use week numbers in places like Europe.
This UX feels like 1 engineer was given a 1 or 2 weeks deadline.
I kind of do that anyhow AKA profiles that you have to use.,... I deliberately made a profile page on the stream deck aka home switcher button and I just pick the profile I want to use and everything for that comes up plus on each profile there's 10 pages so I can do whatever with 240 icons and unlimited* profiles.... With one profile being default profile which I just cut copy and paste that to any new profiles I make so that the page layout is always the same previous page next page page number home switcher on every single page sure I lose a couple buttons but you have unlimited buttons at minimum 240 for stream deck XL
I kept mishearing "parity" as "parody" and that made me very confused for the first half of the video...
I have two razor products, a wireless mouse that charges itself on the mouse pad and a headset that vibrates inline with the base frequency. Both great product ideas (when they work) but both are clunky. After 2 years, today I'm replacing the mouse and mouse pad with Logitech. The razor mouse doesnt show a charged state (not even sure it has a battery actually) and has turned itself off too many times its just unreliable and will go in a sort of on off boot loop. The headset is amazing but the batter in it is too small and runs out within an hour. The synapse software is just bad. Going off these experiences i would avoid most razer products unless its a wired mouse...
Cool video. I have a Razer Stream Deck(Loupedeck Live) that I use mainly for video editing, while I love it and it has been very helpful, I agree that the software is atrocious. There is so many unneccesary steps that have to be taken to customize it and I dread opening the software everytime. I'm hoping they update the software to be more user friendly because if Elgato makes a device that is similar to the loupedcek live i'm jumping ship asap.
Meanwhile I am still out here using my 12 year old iPad mini with my 9 dollar Touch Portal installed on it because it does everything a StreamDeck can do. In fact most of the things that are doable on a Stream Deck were done first inside of Touch Portal, and will continue to be. Between Touch Portal and Streamer Bot I have never seen the need to buy a Stream Deck.
Oh yeah. Even the Streamdeck + buttons ooze with goo.
I really want more competition for the stream deck. The stream deck is probably one of the worst feeling hardware I’ve used, especially for the price. Even after exchanging it a few times they still have quirks and QA issues. Being able to use the Razer with Elgato’s software would be a pie in the sky dream 😭
why? because they can. elgato doesn't own the ability to have the only push button macro thing
I'm seeing double! Also, loved all the times you said "quirk." 👍
It's confirmed that the devs programmed the software on 420.
Who makes a button that works once and that's it?
I've been using streamdeck for years and your video eloquently conveys that I am going to continue with a streamdeck.
Video starts at 2:23
I clicked as I was thinking, "That's Razer's idea of _"ripping off"_ the Steam Deck?? What kind of handheld console looks like _that_ , and where the heck is the screen??"............. durrrr
"it feels very inconsistent and kinda useless" welp, there is the summary of this product.👍
For one reason and one real reason only. Because it will make them money.
That's it. Anything else anyone else says means nothing. They just want to make as much money as possible and I don't blame them
Sounds like they have a dev serving as the product manager.
well, yes hotkeys, but the good part is you know which key is which, and in all the software you use..
if you get for example a dedicated keyboard, you are limited to that, or you need a really great memory..
with a stream deck/or this, you know what button what is by look..
Can't wait for the pink version to sell like cakes 🥶
I knew it sucked when Harris' thumbnail didn't say "Streamdeck Killer?"
9:00 about the rotation sounds absolutely fine. you are being unreasonable. more control is better than less control (toggle is less control). I dont have a loupe deck i have stream deck but I am assuming there may be a composite action, or a toggle action where you set up a button to accomplish a toggle, but without that I still think it is fine.
I’m a huge Razer fan, but I already have a Stream Deck and don’t see the point of switching over.
Not to take sides or anythign, but those knobs on the stream deck are copied from the Loupedeck devices
If you could use this hardware with the stream deck software it might have been perfect. I only have a few gripes on my stream deck experience, but nothing worth switching.
1. I have to manually launch the software every time the PC restarts.
2. Sliding around easily on the desk.
3. Obviously the mushy buttons.
Seems like this solves at least the hardware flaws.
the weeknumber thing would be grand for me, i have switching shifts at work, almost no calendar has the weeknumber so every few weeks i'm stuck googling what week it is, to have it on a hotkey on my "stream deck" would believe it or not be a selling point for me
I couldn't get any of own3d's stuff to work right. Everyone made it look so easy but none of it worked.
I brought the razer ripsaw capture card and the razer kiyo Pro camera and had nothing but issues with both (swapped to elgato and haven't had a single issue).
I wouldn't even consider buying 1 of these over a stream deck. ✌️✌️
Yo, you should review the Roland Bridge Cast goxlr thing.
Evwr seen the Razer Deathstalker keyboard? Yeah. Very early OLED Keyboard. It SUCKED cause they wouldn't give anyone the SDK to it so there was no way to truely utilize it, which is why they slept on it until the Streamdeck
I would pick up a Loupedeck before I even consider buying the Razer counterpart.
I've always wanted a button that very specifically rotates my icons 270 degrees with no way of changing from that position. Just me?
Would you be reviewing the NZXT Capsule Mini mic?
The problem I have is that the even the Elgato Streamdeck feels limiting to me in the worst possible way. Its around 100 bucks, and all I can do is press buttons...
Then you have Touchportal which is like 12 bucks for the pro version, one time payment, and using an old phone I can have up to a 110 buttons per page and I think infinite pages.
If I desire I can make Sliders instead of buttons and.. without hassle I can download pre-made pages off of the internet, icons included and use those straight out of the box, straight from their website or elsewhere like I did with a Star Citizen page that allows you to have easy access to spacecraft controls and other things without hassle.
Kinda, sorta off topic here, possibly very rambly.
It is ironic you talk about synapse being bad.. but then proceed to use a Logitech mouse... Synapse even with all the quirkiness, is still kilometers a head of the hot garbage that is Logitech G Hub. I dread using it every single time I my G29 steering wheel needs a little changing. It's the worst software I have used and the new Logitech Options is also worse than the older Logitech Options. SOmehow Logitech manages to make their software worse through iterations. Like.. the gesture button, I can't tell what shortcuts I assigend to specific gestures untill I click 2 more times to open the gesture botton's settings, then Click on the specific gesture, eventhough they have an image that displays what button is what on the page, razer has a similar style image and there it even shows the second key I bound to a key on the Tartarus Pro(Optical switch, I can set 2 actuation points for 2 independed keypresses) which makes it a lot more useful to me than anything logitech has made xD
Ok, thanks. I'm convinced.... Stream deck, especially that Razer cost +50% more
To me Razer is starting to seem like the Kick of streaming products atm…
How so? Is Razor an alternate option that rewards its users better? I don’t completely understand the reference lol.
@@i_grind_4_mine_533 Well The product looks the same, they took someone else brand and rebadged it withh their own
Make it wireless and smaller? Expand upon the product at least if your going to make a copy
Reviewed the Loupedeck Live S recently (including this software...) and it definitely has quirks for sure ....
Overall the software felt nice though...
because of this video I canceled buying a RAZER, finally I decided to buy an Elgato.. thanks man
Razer has always been known for doing rebrands with OEM stuff, they did it with Avermedia capture cards years ago, now they do a Loupedeck one... I wouldn't even be surprised if their new mics were also rebrands from an OEM like fifine or the like lol.
Wished they actually had a decent software for once, I have the old model of their capture card that it is compatible with PS2, yet I have never been able to make it work reliably, I just ended up getting one of those cheap PS2 hdmi output with a cheap capture card that seems to be the same as those 10$ ones, but has HDMI out, and even that worked better than the Razer one, like cmon Razer 😑
Some competition between razer and elgato (corsair) is not a bad thing
Razer did it first, about 11 years ago they released the Death Stalker Ultimate, if anything Elgato ripped them off js.
Looks compact and small. Very nice.
oh thank god the sponsor is back i thought no more with the sponsor idk but i love hearing this sponsor
Isnt this just the razor stream controller with less buttons?
ok no discord integration is weird but not keeping up with the latest OBS Software is just stupid and makes that thing kinda worthless imo 🤔
For Mac users this is way worse, because without support for Keyboard Maestro, you lose about 90 percent of the automation potential of Stream Deck.
Can't wait for the all new rode stuff to get reviewed
the answer to the title is, they didnt. Elgato just made a basic macro pad and put screens on it, linked it to their own stuff and claimed they were the first company to do it. gamers have been doing it for over a decade. Razor did the same thing but so have alot of other places.
You'd think giants of industry like Razer and Logi would learn how to make software at this point, but no.
seems good maybe I don't want to rotate 90 degrees again
I find it funny that you dislike Synapse, since I love Razer for it. It makes programming my mouse, keyboard, Tartarus and headphones so easy.
Other programs like Logitech are just annoying.
Well if you look at the price a razor 15 key for 175,- or I saw one for 192.- or a streamdeck for 240 or less well why would I get a 15 key for 350.- instead of a streamdeck for 240,- 100 difference ! . more if the price is down on amazon prime or cyber Friday like that.
how is japan treatin yo bro go to ochanomizu station they have so many cool guitars
razer made the stream deck before they did. it was intergraded on a keyboard called the razer deathstalker ultimate keyboard. i have it and love it.
It looks like Razer's controllers are just rebranded Loupedeck hardware. Razer sells a what they call the "Razer Stream Controller" which looks identical to the "Loupedeck Live". Loupedeck is been making these devices for a while. All other quirkiness aside, why should I buy these things from Razer when I can go directly to Loupedeck? (No, Loupedeck doesn't have a version of the knobless Controller X but, I think, the question is still valid.)
i use a numpad with small stickers on it and it cost me 15 bones