My main issue is with the security guard who completely disregarded the student who told him someone was bleeding in the bathroom. How the hell do you just brush something like that off and not even go check? Even if it’s a paper cut you still need to go see what’s going on cause kids don’t just say that.
I disagree with your second part, young boys are known to say obnoxious/ridiculous stuff just for the hell of it. But regardless you're right; the fact that the security guard didn't even bother to check, especially since it's his job, is ridiculous.
To be fair, if I was told someone was bleeding in the school restroom I would think that it was someone with a bloody nose. My 14 years get nose bleeds so easy it's ridiculous. It would have elicited a different response if they said someone was unconscious or lying of the floor in their blood. Specificity matters but yes it would have been best if the guard checked anyway.
Probably the same reason cops stood around doing nothing while kids where being massacred in Texas, or when another school security guard in Florida ran away while the students he was hired to protect were being killed. The barrel of apples rotted a long time ago.
The security guard who brushed off the kid who tried to report someone injured in the bathroom needs to be fired, what the hell is your job if not to assist kids in staying safe?
I might get hate for this but I understand where the guard is coming from, this is middle school and kids tend to prank or disrespect people that are in charge or protect the school so the guard could have just been used to these kids playing these type of games but he checked the bathroom after he saw the panic on the kids face.
@@jazzyLee573 Here's the thing though, it doesn't matter. Caring about the health and well-being of children they're charged with protecting should always come first, far above 'getting back at pranksters'.
Imagine Michael’s mothers reaction after learning that the latex gloves she purchased for her son were not needed for extra credit, but instead for premeditated murder.
@@maxfrisket serial killers generally act on emotion otherwise they wouldn't try and hide their kills or take trophies they act on impulse, they have the emotional urge to kill in a very specific way this kid is a true psychopath as he has no emotion whatsoever for his crime.
@@maxfrisketAt that point he would besides age, already fit the diagnosistic criteria for ASPD. He would definitely be a serial killer had he not been imprisoned.
Horrible. Just Plain Evilness. This 14 year old killer needs to be put to death ☠️ and just like him we won’t know why Society killed him, oh that’s right because you’re a freaking killer.🫵🏽💩🫵🏽
It hard to believe he went along with this, knowing likely the his "friend" was nuts. We failed the killer as much as we failed the victim, because his life is over, and it just didnt have to be that way.
Instead of changing the world for the better, they waste there life as they rot in prison, killing an innocent kid that trusted him with all he had and he does that
@@axis2946 Oh shut up, people that say that lived a life full of flowers and bouquets.. this is real life. Ruthless murderers deserve death, that’s it.
I was a student in the 6th grade at Southwood when this happened. It was a frightening day for us when rumors started circulating around that someone had been murdered in the bathroom. We were all wondering if it had been one of our friends. RIP Jaime
Andre Martin, the boy who was supposed to go to the bathroom with Michael but didn't and is now still alive, is currently a police officer in Florida! Very proud of him
@@markstowers4180 why? He gets to help people who are in need of help just like he was. It's extremely symbolic that someone who was so close to being killed by a psychopath is now in the same line of work that saved him from his traumatic experience.
i find it amazing that the children happened upon that gruesome traumatic seen because an adult once again refused to believe a child... really hope this security guard was sued.. * i do know these things can happen out in the wild and all, but the fact that he failed to at least check the security and welfare of the building when a problem was brought to him.
He also asked:"How did you accomplish that?" several times, and not: "How did you do that?"...as if the murder or attempted murder were accomplishments...which they were, of course, in the boys' mind.
That..... was exactly what I was going to write. I was shook for a minute when I saw this comment. And yes I completely agree, sitting there listening to a 14 year old explain his crimes in heinous details must have been very hard on the Investigators.
I bet the detective was thinking ""WTF happened to this boy?? Why he is so evil and heartless??"" and was speechless but still had to do his job to interrogate
Having worked in several federal prisons for 31 years, I used to always tell people that the huge, muscular inmates were rarely the ones one should be afraid of. This young dude is a perfect example of that. Guys like this don't have any interest in a face-to-face fist fight. They are cunning and have no problem coming up behind you and running steel through your neck. Dude's like this are the ones who are really, really dangerous.
Andre is now a police officer. I guess this stayed with him. Thank you so much for taking the extra time to add in subtitles. I understand the time it takes to do that for some of us who don't hear as well. Thank you so much. ❤️
@@aayaanfarooq9427 I just googled "Michael Hernandez and Andre" and a picture came up of him and gave a paragraph about how thankful he is to be alive, how he is giving back and he has a family now and can't imagine how Jaimie's parents' must feel.
The security guard should be fired , he just bluntly brushed off a child saying someone is bleeding and the detective is so amazing to keep a friendly tone infront of a pshyco like him
It is absolutely terrifying how Michael remembered the exact times. He's paid special attention to all the details so he can relive the murder. A complete and utter psychopath.
That's what disturbs me. This dude really had every single detail planned. That's the sad thing, he could've been a business owner with a mind like that.
@@tandemi75 Lmao one of the most important skills in business is good social skills. Besides, this kid was clearly a fucking idiot considering he got caught so easily.
@@tandemi75 what's terrifying is there are many business owners like this. psychopaths walk among us and there's a good chance you cross paths with one every week fortunately not all of them act out their psychopathy this way, many of them are smart enough to know that it's generally not worth the risk of being arrested, but they find other ways to abuse others and pursue their deranged ideals
@@dreyone6156 I think it’s highly unfair to claim that all psychopaths, and those part of the dark triad, are just automatically seeking to abuse the people around them. They can actually be well-adjusted people too. Anyways there’s nothing inherently bad or wrong with them for being born the way they were, it’s just a different way of living, some are even capable of decreasing the symptoms or level of their psychopathy as well
Just gotta do your best to pay attention and try to be as physically able as possible people usually don’t want to have an unnecessary fight for something they can easily do to someone else
This is heart breaking in the case of little Jaime. He truly looked like the most innocent, sweet kid, the kind of kid we all wanted as a friend in college. He trusted his friend so much that not even his sixth sense told him to not go in to the toilet, even if he felt he was going to be pranked or whatever. Rest in peace little boy 💔
This is a dream interview for those of us who are interested in the psychology of murderers. This detective has excellent interview skills. So many do not. And so many detectives don’t ask questions pertaining to their mindset. I literally ruminate for days over simple things like if I’m unintentionally a little short with someone. And there are people walking around who murdered someone the night before and then went home, ate dinner, brushed their teeth, and went to bed. Like, how?!? I just discovered the series Signs of a Psychopath and the episode on this guy was so enlightening.
@A2-mp5jbshe said she’s interested in the PSYCHOLOGY of murderers 🤦🏼♀️which many of us are, not bc we are MURDERERS ourselves but the whole “how can someone do this?” aspect of it. This entire channel is based off of psychological evaluations of experts
Are we just going to accept this without questioning how someone can become morbidly obese and die in prison? Did convicts watch his interrogation and keep on his good side by giving him all their pudding? Did guards sneak him plates of bacon and cheesecake, and let him sleep instead of exercise?
@@michaelscott-joynt3215 guards don't make you exercise. They really don't care what you do as long as you don't cause trouble. A lot of people gain weight in jail and prison because eating and sleeping are about the only things to do.
Can I get a time stamp? I actually tried to watch his reaction but from what I can tell he doesn't sit back, or react at all..he puts one hand in the air as he asks his next question.
There was that part where should have dug in a little deeper though near the end, as he might be able to uncover the killers motivations for murder such as delusional disorder.
@@skycloud4802 this interview is weird. The detective already knows the answers to the questions. He's leading him the entire way. If this was the initial interview how would he know about taking off his jewelry, the ring missing from his pocket, his intent to kill Andre the previous day?
What kills me most, is that Jaime seemed like a pretty sweet kid. The photos of him smiling, may give you a glimpse into his personality, as well as his willingness to do things that other people might consider strange, because he was a trusting soul.
@@marissaxortega The devil does not exist. Give the people something to fear in order to control them. That is all what the devil is, an illusion fed to common people to keep them stupid, docile and make them obey without questioning things. This worked well in the Middle Ages, snap out of that Middle Age mentality.
yeah, like they mention in the video the cop could have asked further when the kid said he didn't think it was right or wrong. like the kid is so casual and open about the killing but when it comes to motivation he doesn't offer much more than "I don't know" just seems so weird to not want to talk about that part at all....
Right? Like if it had been a bully or someone then I'd at least understand the motive. But it was literally his friend and for no other reason other than he felt like it.
Imagine being the killers sister, finding out your brother also planned to kill you. Imagine being Andre, who was almost lured to his death but wised up last minute, knowing what you know now, knowing Jaime didn't make it simply because he trusted his friend. This is such a messed up situation. All the poor kids involved, I feel for them (not including the killer)
That is terrifying to listen to. You can hear how proud he is of himself when he says _"....yes where the jugular vein is...that's what I was aiming for"_ as if he'll get a gold star for knowing that fact. Don't think I've seen a creepier interview than this.
This is one of the most disturbing Interrogations I've ever seen, the kid is so cold and heartless. How someone so young could be capable of such evil is just terrifying
They are not technically evil, they are rather half-emotionless. Just like Nazzi's ideal of "overman". For instance, there is no evidence of sadistic pleasure, it is rather a curious vivisector. He is proud of commencing a feat of something large, extraordinary.
@@nameunknown2510 He’s mentally ill yeah but the fact he planned this makes it evil, He was fully aware of everything he was doing. He even described every detail of how he planned it and went through with it. We can’t gonna keep excusing these behaviors with mental illness so they can get a slap on the wrist. I battle with depression and suicide but I’m not out here plotting to murder people.
As a middle school teacher, I just can’t even imagine someone this young doing something like this and bragging about it like they were “clever”. Just mind blowing
i like how you underestimate your middle school students, when murderers under 10 years old literally exist. if anything, ur one of those teachers who dont believe bullies will bully others at school or at all
lots of comments so this may have already been mentioned, but Fun fact: Andre Martin 10:08 (who was almost murdered, too) grew up to become a Miami-Dade police detective as a direct result of this crime...
I was around his age when I legit tried to kill someone. Fortunately, it didn't work. I had no plan, no story worked out. I was just mad. And totally oblivious to how big a deal it would have been. For anyone curious about the circumstances, my parents had adopted a child and my whole world went to shit. She was about 6 years younger than me. One day I totally lost my temper and tried to smother her with a pillow. She fought like a wildcat, and it wasn't as fast and easy as in the movies. To this day, I don't think she knows I was trying to kill her that day. I really don't think kids at that age can really grasp the seriousness of violent crime. This kid reminds me of that guy who killed his college classmate for no reason. His psychologist said out of his 200 cases, he was the most dangerous. I do think this kid was just as dangerous- maybe it's the having no reason part that's so... off.
@@poutinedream5066 you got therapy right? That’s not even slightly normal. I hope your sister is okay these days, I doubt she doesn’t remember it the way you claim.
@@poutinedream5066 When I was 7 I knew it was important not to kill people. And that death can’t be reversed. To make it to 14 and be that detached from others is definitely either an outright excuse for THAT much selfishness or evidence of an inherent defect.
@@poutinedream5066 Wow, no. It is not normal to lose your temper and try to kill someone; there's a huge difference between your sister pissing you off and you trying to hit her, and trying to smother someone. That's not normal kid gets angry behavior, that's full intent to kill. "I really don't think kids at that age can really grasp the seriousness of violent crime" Not remotely true. This is general consensus bias. You have a view that you think is common among people; it is not. Eighth graders know what killing is. Please see a therapist. If you have views based on personal trauma, that sucks, but go to a therapist. Get some help.
That was truly disturbing. To hear a kid so young, speak so calculated and emotionless about the murder of another kid. My heart goes out to the family of Jaime, so sad, so very sad.
@@pianosenzanima1They do have feelings, but its only negative emotions. Mostly rage and contempt, however psychopaths can feel good when getting supply such as sex, drugs or criminal behavior. They are so empty they need the thrill to feel alive. I would say that psychopathy is basically the most extreme form of narcissism, they are so self-absorbed and egocentric that absolutely that no one else or nothing else matters but themselves. This is a coping mechanism that is learnt and adopted in childhood. Its almost a given that these types of offenders go through some real rough shit during their youths, they learn to split off from their true feelings and become empty soulless shells of their true selves, its really a tragedy on every level
@@hoodiegamer9256 no, that’s not what caused this….. SEVERE mental disease, a lack of love might make you a killer, but it would also make you bitter and hateful of the world…. this kid isn’t bitter, he is just detached from all moral attachments and emotions…. deciding to kill somone to him was like anyone else deciding to to watch any particular genre of movie… just what he felt like doing at the time… he doesn’t think about the long term future…. it also it one of the reasons he’s an intelligent student… he just focuses on the problems
Well, it's Florida. They're used to dealing with the worst of the worst... racists, transphobes, climate-deniers etc. Psychopath teenage murders are nothing once you've had someone wave an American flag in your face. You kind of get numb after you've been misgendered a few times.
For both mother's, your child goes to school and one comes out deceased, one comes out a murderer. To think that your child not only did such a gruesome crime, but had been planning it and did it to his best friend
“I wanted to get André first…BEFORE I got Jaime”. This kid is a true psychopath. The fact that Jaime was so trusting and innocent almost makes this worse (if that’s even possible).
So sad how much he obviously trusted his friend enough to even to turn around and let him cover his mouth. He continued to see the best in his friend and trust him up until his literal last moment. So horrible and terrifying
My son is 13.. I can't imagine how his parents felt... my heart breaks for jaime and his family... when all of this came out and Andres parents discovered how close their son was to the same fate I can't imagine the relief they'd have felt.
Thinking about how much Jamie trusted his friend to even go in a stall, cover his eyes, and lean head back is sad. He probably loved his friend who killed him and never would have hurt a hair on his friend.
sorry im gonna be unpolite.. but that's a very stupid comment. Anyone with even a normal friendship without much trust would have done the same, unless they already suspect something. Its a "friend" asking to show you something, even if its in a weird way, NO SANE PERSON would think "oh maybe he's gonna stab me to death now, let's be careful" -.-
As a parent of two kids, I can't begin to imagine the horrendous pain Jaimie's parents feel, knowing what this monster did to their little angel. Praying for them to find peace one day.
Not just Jaime, but Andre as well, and the parents of Michael. I can't imagine as a mother listening to my child talk like this. I also feel for the poor stenographer that had to sit there and record all of this. How did that investigator stay so "matter-of-fact"? I'll bet off camera and outside the room he lost it.
You'd be surprised to hear that in a statement by the parents they said they felt sorrow for Michael's parents because the mother knew what it was like to lose a child and offered remorse to them.
I mean interagators want honesty and he was honest idk how that terrified you, it's worse when they swear they didn't do it and now u gotta waste hours upon hours.
@@kimkelly5512 psychopaths have "friends" in the sense that they relate to people simply to be socially integrated, something they feel like they need to be a part of society. They don't "want" friends, they think the should have one. All in all, friendships require empathy and so on, qualities psychopaths don't have. in some cases, their superficial charm works wonders in attracting people who are insecure or tend to be influenced easily, in some cases even leading them to be accomplices to their crimes. for example in the case of the columbine shooters, you have a clear psychopath (harris) and an insecure, shy person (klebold) who fell for the psychopath's confidence. they were not friends, it was a one-sided relationship of one being used by the other.
@@navaryn2938 yep, and the most unnerving ones are psychopaths with iqs over 160, you and almost EVERYONE around would never even realize , its a waking nightmare
Its by far the best.. they include everything in the video literally everything and then most of there videos no one has seen and if they did they sure as fook did not get all the footage and information that explore with us would.. they next level good
they have to be nice to criminals as part of their interrogation technique iirc, they think being nice to narcissists will get a confession easier (sometimes it does)
@coleholden8241 and you think a victim would want to when they’re acting like that? it makes them want to shut down & just leave, not even caring ab justice bc it’s clear they won’t get it when the cops are treating them like they’re in the wrong or trying to pick their story apart.
@@NyssineThey can still be nice to victims, especially those of sexual assault. It’s less than 0.01% of assaults that are false, so maybe they should be nice.
Shit, Man. I don't usually struggle with interrogations but this kid had me sick to my stomach. The fact that Jaime even turned around asking him not to kill him didn't even get to him. He even checked Jaime's eyes after. It's heart wrenching. That poor little boy. Very glad they sentenced him to life regardless, he definitely would've done more.
Man what a sick kid. I legit had to go through the same weakening and disgusted feeling I felt listening to him explain what he did when reading this comment.
Dude what's disturbing most to me is how it turned into a literal casual conversation / Q and A half way through. It's like the detective and the kid are talking about it as if they are drinking morning coffee
@@brazyrist Damn. I can't accept the fact that humans without feelings exist. I'm a dominant Fi user and this is easy to comprehend yet hard to accept. Humans without feelings...
The fact that he even had a notebook with all his plans make it seem like a movie. It's crazy to think that the person you're having a friendly conversation with in the grocery store one day is actually a murderer.
I was casual friends with a guy in a game chat for a couple of years...he wound up killing a little girl, assaulting her body, and planned to eat her (he did not get that far). I was so horrified and shocked when I found out that I hyperventilated. He's been on death row for years.
@@stephenhensley5631 yeahnah violence in media isn't just video games, it's been present for decades in many forms. please stop with the "but the violent vidya games!". I'm sorry but it kinda makes you look stupid.
As a teacher, the guard’s response to a student telling him there was someone bleeding in the bathroom absolutely devastated me. Even if you think a kid is messing around or pulling a prank, if someone says a kid might be bleeding, you need to check in on the kid! He clearly does not prioritize student safety and I hope he no longer works in schools.
He certainly didn’t and in doing so, he caused other children so much trauma that could have been avoided if he had just taken a few steps into the bathroom and look. Who knows, there may have been a chance he could have even saved Jamie 😔💔
@@sagittaria9566nah they’re really not. it would have taken the security guard less than 1 minute to check and he didn’t. ofc he did not kill the kid and it’s not his fault (murderer is 100% at fault), but there’s a chance he didn’t die immediately and the security guard could have saved him if he checked
The scary part about this young man and about this case is recognizing that there are most likely other unrecognizable individuals who walk among us on a daily basis. 😓
Unrecognizable? He was a bully who collect ed knives and fantasized about killing his sister. It would have been easily recognized that he was dangerous if anyone paid attention to that part of his life.
I needed better questions from the investigator about his state of mind and his justifications. This was very different from other interrogations I’ve seen.
Looking at the case photos you can draw lines as to how this kid was so deranged. Likely the parents didn't take responsibility of his upbringing and wasn't taught right/wrong. All the crime/horror books and movies he had and a TV at his bedside. Might've been the root where he got obsessed about violence/gore. Unfortunately we won't know, but it'd be interesting to learn more.
He probably had a belief that the weak don't deserve to live, and that he was given the role of Arbiter. I won't pretend I understand how everyone's mind works but when he said he doesn't think it's right or wrong it means that he read a lot of things, probably nihilistic texts that shaped his beliefs. However there's also a lack of emotion or rationality there if you plan on acting on these beliefs. Every person has personal beliefs but they don't act on them, he also had no life preservation instinct meaning that he didn't value his life at all and that makes me think he was a nihilist.
@@MementoMoriGrizzlyI don't think this had anything to do with nihilism, or anything you could read, or any type of belief at all. This is the result of a very damaged or malformed brain. No question. A nihilist may not see any LOGICAL value in life, but that is a very different thing than simply lacking in the automatic physiological responses of a healthy brain, such as fligh of fight response.
i watched this video yesterday and i've just came back because this has been haunting me the whole night. it's genuinely so sad and terrifying, Jamie seemed so innocent and kind. he trusted his friend, just to be murdered a painful death at such a young age. he had a whole life ahead of him. some people are just too cruel.. Micheal didn't even have a reason to murder him!! my sincerest condolences to Jamies parents. i hope he's in heaven, or just peacefully resting.
Wait, like… do you feel sad or something? I felt nauseous when they described the body and all but the way you typed this makes it seem like you feel an emotion similar to losing a loved one
If this video haunts ya you must be under 15. This is the Internet where a kid killing another kid is preferable over some of the other shit we see on here
I watch murder mysteries all the time, this one was heavy. I have a 14 yr old, and the way this child was talking was chilling. I can't imagine how his friend Andrew feels about surviving 🥺
Now I understand why my mother was so strict about my friends and who I could sleep over with, etc. that’s so scary. Just horrible. A kid that calculated and smart. He was obviously a bully. And the father was stupid as hell. I’m sorry you give your kid a collection of knives?? Smh 🤦🏽♀️
Young boys love playing with knives so that’s not a big red flag. If he was using them to cut up animals or do other stuff maybe, but having knives to whittle sticks or help with fishing is normal young man behavior
born w it or thru trauma edit : stop mentioning me i dont care to argue anymore LOL, searching further for an answer just confused me more. if u have sources to back up ur reply then by all means plz do.
It never ceases to amaze me the lack of power we have to protect ourselves and our children from monsters even when they are obvious and a clear and present danger, we can do nothing.
17:35 "Which was a lie." was somehow the thing that chilled me to the core during his confession. Usually suspects who are caught try to make themselves sound less guilty; for example, some admit they injured the victim but didn't measure their strength/notice that they were actually hurt. Instead, he was really telling the detective "I made no mistake, I knew I was doing this."
That’s usually a sign of psychopathy or severe mental health issues if they don’t try to get away with it or they talk about it as if they’re telling a normal story
He must've thought he would be tried as a minor, but was literally a day too late as the interrogation was on his birthday. I'd love to have seen the look on his face when he was told he'd be tried as an adult and recieve LIFE without the possibility of parole!
Well, he wasn't particularly afraid of any consequences. His thinking patterns weren't normal other then the carefully planned "diabolical master-mind" technical details involving his decision. His actions were mainly robotic.
They should start integorating all the kids and teens that abuse, torture and kill animals because too many serial killers have started with abusing animals.
7:08 It was his birthday?! That can't be a coincidence. Was killing his poor friend a gift to himself? Jamie's poor parents had to have been devastated to learn of their son's murder and the lack of reasoning behind it. To know it was a "friend" he trusted and there was nothing he could have done to prevent it because neither him or anyone could have seen this coming. Michael's parents were probably decimated by their son's cruel and cold act of murder that he just decided he wanted to do for no reason that even he could think of.
It wasn’t his actual birthday. He simply noted he just turned 14. Meaning fairly recently he turned 14. Edit: nvm it was close enough. His birthday was the day before. He wanted to do it on his birthday but didn’t get opportunity for Andre. So he planned for Jaime the next day.
I am speechless. I can’t imagine how Andre’ must have felt when he was told he was the original target. I would really like to know are people born as sadistic monsters or are they made? Jamie looked like such a sweet boy, he was too trusting. RIP
I’ve read in the book “Behave” that psychopaths and sociopaths have deformities in their brains, and they are unable to have a “normal” response to stressful situations because their brains can’t produce the stress hormones.
Both. Psychopaths are born as sadists, people with a narcissistic personality disorder f.e. developing it. Cause part of NPD is sadism. So. U can be born with it & u can developing it. 🤷♀️
Both true, I believe. Some people have defects physically from birth, why not mentally ? Bad brains, poor wiring, psychopathy. An incomplete brain will show signs of aberrant behavior, but adults have to notice & acknowledge it, then get the child treatment. Other times it's abuse, of various kinds, that cause a mind to split into paths of aberrant behavior as a way of dealing with the abuse that the child doesn't know how to properly deal with. Some monsters are born, some are created.
I can’t imagine what Andre was thinking when he found out what happened. It breaks my heart to think that a kid would have to have something like that on his mind.
@@tenaciousduk6587 Not really, that's the entire point of the entire community feeling it... If your community brushed it off, as so many now these days do, that's when you need to start doubting everything and everyone..
He doesn’t even wait two seconds before flatly replying to the detective, the lack of emotion and empathy is astounding. And to know he’s only 14…. Really fucks with my brain 🙃
@@louisvandermerwe8080 You don’t know how to right the name Putin? Putin kind of resembles this kid, although he doesn’t have the balls to kill everyone and just hires people to do it. So weak. I’ll be glad to know what the actual diagnosis of his illness is, as many people say he won’t live very long and is terminally ill. Which is a good thing, obviously.
That just shows you how much power we have. We can shape the _UNIVERSE_ to our will, given the right _ACTIONS_ - love is usually passive and unconditional (think about your parents), which is why it usually doesn't have as strong of an effect.
That’s why we have to use our power to CREATE GOOD. There’s always going to be adversaries and sick individuals.. it’s the world of polarity.. RIP Jaime 🙏🏼
Man this is tragic. At the same time people are just... incredible how on earth could he think like that? Id like to see more of a psychological explanation and interviews with this guy.
Not only think like that, but also think he could get away with it. Murdering someone in a school with so many ppl around. its not like something simple like hiding a marijuana joint on your person.
His parents appear pretty average. They were concerned because he showed signs of potential OCD. Behaving, having good grades. This kid is without a doubt a psychopath despite being too young for the diagnosis. Someone born unable to feel empathy is something no parent can overcome nor detect when they intelligently hide it. This kid was unfortunately too convincing when wearing his mask.
@@silencemeviolateme6076 "but he can only hide it because of a hyper masculine culture" This tells me you have no fucking clue as to what you're talking about. A psychopath can be a seemingly empathetic person who is very in tune with emotions only because of their overdeveloped sense of cognitive empathy....what our culture is means fuck all to a psychopath who is wearing a mask, they will hide in every social personality imaginable to reach their end.... "I'm sure dad praised him for being emotionless like a real man" I could careless as to what head canon you have about his personal life. Making assumptions only makes you appear ignorant....every household is different and you clearly didn't bother to do any research into the subject of his household....
@@silencemeviolateme6076Damn. Your dad tried telling you not to lose your mind one day because your barbie got ruined, and here you are all these years later still holding a grudge over it. Crying=vulnerability. If people see you cry over something, they know that causes an emotional response. Emotional response=not thinking logcially=open to manipulation. But no, go ahead and blame your daddy because he never explained it thoroughly to you, and you could never forgive him for just trying to get your mental breakdown behind closed doors. Sad. For you I mean.
I agree that he would have killed again if not caught. I think he’s psychopath, though. They are born, and even though there are genetics involved that lead to some families having more psychopathic traits, I don’t believe his parents “made” him like this. Psychopaths have different neurological “wiring” and lack some capacities of non-psychopaths (empathy primarily), and they can happen “randomly” in families.
The scary thing is people like this walk calmly among us, going unnoticed, flying below the radar, while plotting their crimes, without empathy for anyone in particular, or their closest friend. (Andre must realise every day how close he came to death at the hands of his “friend”)
Yeah my head was spinning through this interrogation and felt light headed and woozy. Props to the detective, seems like an incredibly tough and high stress job
Jaime was my friends cousin. I will never forget the day we were in class and his cousin broke down crying…. This was honestly heartbreaking…. Michael, you reap what you sow.
The idea to listen a 14 year old talk about murdering as naturally as eating. And hear his victim was another innocent 14 yrs old, with no provocation its the most gutwrenching video I've watched so far from all the crime-tubers yet! I feel very very sad and pain for Jamie. Its just... unbearable.
I've seen many interrogation documentaries like this one, but only this one gave me chills. Pure psychopathy. No lying game, no boasting, no other disorders. Pure psychopath. Even the one with two little girls with advanced schizophrenia and a fascination for creepy pastas, stabbing another innocent little girl, even that wasn't as chilling as this one... Also imagine being Andre, being conscious from his early years, that he lives *only* because he didn't listen to his *friend* to go "somewhere to see something". He will study over and over the details of how his own death would look like...
at least with the one with the two schizo girls, one of em seemed almost oblivious enough that she doesn't really seem to understand the gravity. Equally remorseless, but it was more of a clueless creature than... whatever this evil kid was. This guy knew everything completely, he just didn't care.
my friend asking me if i’m gonna ‘cooperate’ tomorrow and shit like that would definitely make me not be friends with him anymore 😂 fuckin weirdo don’t ever talk to me like that lmao 🤦♂️
I wouldn't see my son never again ...but this piece of shit wouldn't receive a visit to jail from he's parents.....if this was my case. Just get your own conclusion people.
There sure was shock, but I don't think Jamie was much surprised. Reason for that is I had a kid in the neighborhood that had similar traits. No matter who he played with, at the end of the day he enjoyed it to hurt and torture them in some or the other way. Even though he was friend to me, my guards were always up when he was nearby and I would not have been surprised if he turned against me.
Those poor teenage boys who found the victim, I’m sure that isn’t something they will easily forget. Seasoned homicide detectives are effected by some cases & they have seen plenty prior. So for these teenagers to see that breaks my heart. I rly rly hope they get any and all the therapies, support, understanding & compassion that’s gonna be needed to help them heal. I don’t think you can ever fully recover from that- not that it has to consume your life, but I’m sure it’ll change your personality one way or another
I don't know how you manage to stay positive and emotionally healthy after hearing so many of these stories (I see you've commented on a few). I always slip into full on nihilism and can't find a way out.
I wonder if Andre has watched this. Can you imagine seeing someone talk about your murder, realizing just how truly close to death you were from someone you would never see it coming from. There is a failure somewhere. RIP Jamie 🙏
The fact Jaime trusted him & turned around without knowing what his friend had planned, we will never be able to understand the minds of some humans :’(
I wonder if Andre had a sense that something about Michael's behavior on that day was just "off" and his intuition told him to walk away and not show up at the fence the next day. Thank heaven🙏
The fact that on the first day he tried doing this he assumed that he would be able to slit andres throat in-front of Jaime and then proceed to convince jaime to cooperate and allow him to slit his throat next is just PURE insanity. That thought process is clinically insane
There’s a case where two twins get interrogated for a homoside, one of them was caught on CCTV. They both had to plea their case. That one is fucking crazy
As someone who is currently going to Southwood, we have a memorial for Jamie near the teachers parking lot where I suspect the 3 8th graders hang out everyday and the street in front of the teacher’s parking lot was named “Jamie Gough”, this school, to this day, has so much respect for Jamie
Thank you for respecting this beautiful lost child by using the actual pronunciation of his name. What a horrible situation, I can't imagine how his family must feel.
Imagine being Andre, celebrating Michael's birthday, meeting up with him etc. just to find out from this interrogation that he was going to kill you. Jesus Christ, that gave me chills man.
My main issue is with the security guard who completely disregarded the student who told him someone was bleeding in the bathroom. How the hell do you just brush something like that off and not even go check? Even if it’s a paper cut you still need to go see what’s going on cause kids don’t just say that.
Yeah and even if they did say it everyday he should go and check anyway bcs better safe then sorry.
I disagree with your second part, young boys are known to say obnoxious/ridiculous stuff just for the hell of it. But regardless you're right; the fact that the security guard didn't even bother to check, especially since it's his job, is ridiculous.
To be fair, if I was told someone was bleeding in the school restroom I would think that it was someone with a bloody nose. My 14 years get nose bleeds so easy it's ridiculous. It would have elicited a different response if they said someone was unconscious or lying of the floor in their blood. Specificity matters but yes it would have been best if the guard checked anyway.
Probably the same reason cops stood around doing nothing while kids where being massacred in Texas, or when another school security guard in Florida ran away while the students he was hired to protect were being killed. The barrel of apples rotted a long time ago.
hourly pay does a lot to a man over a course of time.
The security guard who brushed off the kid who tried to report someone injured in the bathroom needs to be fired, what the hell is your job if not to assist kids in staying safe?
Things like that put me in a frothing rage, and unfortunately it's more common than it's not.
It's so annoying, so many people will never do their jobs until something like this happens, and then it's too late.
Yeah this disturbed me too. I belt he felt like crap when the boys came running out and decided to check then; and found what he found.
I might get hate for this but I understand where the guard is coming from, this is middle school and kids tend to prank or disrespect people that are in charge or protect the school so the guard could have just been used to these kids playing these type of games but he checked the bathroom after he saw the panic on the kids face.
@@jazzyLee573 Here's the thing though, it doesn't matter. Caring about the health and well-being of children they're charged with protecting should always come first, far above 'getting back at pranksters'.
Imagine Michael’s mothers reaction after learning that the latex gloves she purchased for her son were not needed for extra credit, but instead for premeditated murder.
I had assumed the second pair of gloves were for a backup set, I didn’t know he had planned to flawlessly use each set.
his father provided knives for his collection, interesting hobby
I thought the same thing! “Ma’am, your son actually asked you for those latex gloves to commit multiple murder.” I would’ve died.
now imagine her reaction after learning he was planning to murder his bigger sister, wouldn't be shocked if the mother was also on that book ...
@@roxyblaire1278
Imagine being the other friend he had planned to murder first, and hearing this. Terrifying close call
He would be thanking his lucky stars I bet
imagine being his parent.they found out that they were about to bury their kid
And his sister!
Just imagine being murdered for no reason by someone you supposed to be befriended to. What a sad story. R.I.P. young fella Jaime.
He is R.I.P, that's what dead people do.
@@joaquimrodriguez8961 weird sentiment, but okay.
The old sting “ you never really know somebody “ is a true sentiment
@@joaquimrodriguez8961 super weird and unnecessary comment
@@joaquimrodriguez8961 you ok?
I have no doubt that they saved so many lives by sentencing him the way they did.
They were too late. The signs were there
Sentencing really? Preventing all the other psycho adolescents out there? Sorry, but no.
Even then, he apparently was only going to live until 31 due to an irregular heartbeat anyway.
@@crazyluigi6664 Learn to read between the lines. This man ate himself to death because he was never getting out of that box.
@@zhangjao6328 I mean, fair enough, but who's to say it wouldn't have happened if he were to have remained free anyway?
"because I value my jewelry." That quite literally sent chills down my spine.
Emotion and sympathy have something to do with some parts of the human brain. Maybe he has those parts of his brain being damaged.
You look like Michael brother
@@walkerwalker4114 ?
And your name is Jamie? James? Same as victims here. but also completely irrelevant!
You didn't value your ONLY FUCKING FRIEND like.... 🤬
It's amaze at how quickly he answer every question with any emotion.
Making of a psychopathe / serial killer
@@maxfrisket serial killers generally act on emotion otherwise they wouldn't try and hide their kills or take trophies they act on impulse, they have the emotional urge to kill in a very specific way this kid is a true psychopath as he has no emotion whatsoever for his crime.
@@maxfrisketAt that point he would besides age, already fit the diagnosistic criteria for ASPD. He would definitely be a serial killer had he not been imprisoned.
Like he was in an oral exam and whomever answered first won….
He has pretty high IQ, it is not mentioned but he's smart.
The thought of Jamie with his throat slit open bleeding asking his "friend" Mike not to kill him is so heart breaking. The poor innocent boy.
He even said "of course this was a lie"
Horrible. Just Plain Evilness. This 14 year old killer needs to be put to death ☠️ and just like him we won’t know why Society killed him, oh that’s right because you’re a freaking killer.🫵🏽💩🫵🏽
@@reptilesgamers00hug you in in a minute
L. Ll
It hard to believe he went along with this, knowing likely the his "friend" was nuts. We failed the killer as much as we failed the victim, because his life is over, and it just didnt have to be that way.
Instead of changing the world for the better, they waste there life as they rot in prison, killing an innocent kid that trusted him with all he had and he does that
Imagine knowing that you are never going to see your family again and dying in a stall, RIP Jaime you didn’t deserve this. What a sick person
What a piece of sh*t! Prayers to the family left behind.
Excuse me, but who would deserve it.
@@axis2946 michael
@@romcoles4600 2 wrongs don't make a right.
@@axis2946 Oh shut up, people that say that lived a life full of flowers and bouquets.. this is real life. Ruthless murderers deserve death, that’s it.
I was a student in the 6th grade at Southwood when this happened. It was a frightening day for us when rumors started circulating around that someone had been murdered in the bathroom. We were all wondering if it had been one of our friends. RIP Jaime
Wow! I can't even imagine!!
Im so sorry that happend to all of yoy
Absolutely horrendous! 😢
If I was in middle school and heard these rumors theres absolutely no way I would believe it, I can't imagine how haunting that has to be
@@monkmane2345 we did. The school was placed into a complete "code red" lockdown that wasn't lifted for the entire day.
It's incredible that there are still people who swear that minors aren't responsible for their actions.
Andre Martin, the boy who was supposed to go to the bathroom with Michael but didn't and is now still alive, is currently a police officer in Florida! Very proud of him
Wow thank you for the information I am glad he's ok
I’m disappointed in him
@@markstowers4180 why? He gets to help people who are in need of help just like he was. It's extremely symbolic that someone who was so close to being killed by a psychopath is now in the same line of work that saved him from his traumatic experience.
Just curious, how'd you find this out?
@@WiscoKnight0806 Googled his name, there are a few local articles about his accomplishment! Quite cute
The way the cop used 'very good' was amazing. He could tell that this kid feeds off of praise.
But not too obvious either like “mmm clever boy”
i find it amazing that the children happened upon that gruesome traumatic seen because an adult once again refused to believe a child... really hope this security guard was sued..
* i do know these things can happen out in the wild and all, but the fact that he failed to at least check the security and welfare of the building when a problem was brought to him.
He also asked:"How did you accomplish that?" several times, and not: "How did you do that?"...as if the murder or attempted murder were accomplishments...which they were, of course, in the boys' mind.
This kid talks as if he's autistic. Like he doesn't understand anything socially.
Hardly Holmesian.
That must've been both one of the easiest and one of the hardest interrogations that investigator ever had.
ikr.. like he admitted so earnestly- but what he'd done was unbelievable
That..... was exactly what I was going to write. I was shook for a minute when I saw this comment. And yes I completely agree, sitting there listening to a 14 year old explain his crimes in heinous details must have been very hard on the Investigators.
I bet the detective was thinking ""WTF happened to this boy?? Why he is so evil and heartless??"" and was speechless but still had to do his job to interrogate
You can hear how distressed the investigator is as he is questioning Michael.
@@giulianacr2638
he does pretty good considering
I would be shocked
This actually was the most twisted, to the point and disturbing interrogation I’ve ever seen. EWU never fails to deliver.
Having worked in several federal prisons for 31 years, I used to always tell people that the huge, muscular inmates were rarely the ones one should be afraid of. This young dude is a perfect example of that. Guys like this don't have any interest in a face-to-face fist fight. They are cunning and have no problem coming up behind you and running steel through your neck. Dude's like this are the ones who are really, really dangerous.
I agree
So true
@@BobbyP5985 wtf are you talking about ?
@@BobbyP5985 nah, they gonna put a peanut butter dick sandwich in your chocolate starfish.
@@tannen3339 please continue, tell me more in details.
Andre is now a police officer. I guess this stayed with him.
Thank you so much for taking the extra time to add in subtitles. I understand the time it takes to do that for some of us who don't hear as well. Thank you so much. ❤️
How do u know?
@@aayaanfarooq9427 I just googled "Michael Hernandez and Andre" and a picture came up of him and gave a paragraph about how thankful he is to be alive, how he is giving back and he has a family now and can't imagine how Jaimie's parents' must feel.
@@-.__Hazel__.- How is he misinforming hes talking about Andre being a Detective? Are you on crack?
@J Valenciaga380 you’re talking about the killer where this comment refers to the other kid he tried to kill.
@@-.__Hazel__.- OP is talking about Andre not Michael. Michael is the murderer who died in prison. Edit: Spelling
My heart breaks for Jaime and his parents, how they carry on knowing what happened to their precious child is beyond me.
@Techrecycle4u don’t be miserable
@Techrecycle4u You’re a despicable human being, congratulations.
@@bluecatOMG Nothing can ever heal it, you just learn to live with it.
@@Name-oz4lq The pain is still there you just become accustomed to it and in time it does "feel" easier.
God help Jiames family
The security guard should be fired , he just bluntly brushed off a child saying someone is bleeding and the detective is so amazing to keep a friendly tone infront of a pshyco like him
It is absolutely terrifying how Michael remembered the exact times. He's paid special attention to all the details so he can relive the murder. A complete and utter psychopath.
That's what disturbs me. This dude really had every single detail planned. That's the sad thing, he could've been a business owner with a mind like that.
@@tandemi75 Lmao one of the most important skills in business is good social skills. Besides, this kid was clearly a fucking idiot considering he got caught so easily.
@@tandemi75 what's terrifying is there are many business owners like this. psychopaths walk among us and there's a good chance you cross paths with one every week
fortunately not all of them act out their psychopathy this way, many of them are smart enough to know that it's generally not worth the risk of being arrested, but they find other ways to abuse others and pursue their deranged ideals
@@dreyone6156 I think it’s highly unfair to claim that all psychopaths, and those part of the dark triad, are just automatically seeking to abuse the people around them. They can actually be well-adjusted people too. Anyways there’s nothing inherently bad or wrong with them for being born the way they were, it’s just a different way of living, some are even capable of decreasing the symptoms or level of their psychopathy as well
@@ShadowJinxXOX the desire to abuse others is a hallmark attribute of psychopathy so I don't see what is so unfair about it
It scares me to think about the fact that people like this are out there and could be anywhere
@@archangel8016 ur a weirdo
Or worse your own family member.
That's the sad truth.
But is he truly a bad person?
Just gotta do your best to pay attention and try to be as physically able as possible people usually don’t want to have an unnecessary fight for something they can easily do to someone else
This is heart breaking in the case of little Jaime. He truly looked like the most innocent, sweet kid, the kind of kid we all wanted as a friend in college. He trusted his friend so much that not even his sixth sense told him to not go in to the toilet, even if he felt he was going to be pranked or whatever. Rest in peace little boy 💔
He looks like one of my younger brothers when he was little and it’s heart breaking to think that he died for nothing. Michael was a monster
I am sure Andre is aware of all this long before this videom came out, as he most likely had to give his statement in court
He looks like my son.
@@beautyfrompainxxx q
Michael also looks like a good friend, but his brain didn't develop empathy. Some people are the victims of their own brain.
This is a dream interview for those of us who are interested in the psychology of murderers. This detective has excellent interview skills. So many do not. And so many detectives don’t ask questions pertaining to their mindset. I literally ruminate for days over simple things like if I’m unintentionally a little short with someone. And there are people walking around who murdered someone the night before and then went home, ate dinner, brushed their teeth, and went to bed. Like, how?!? I just discovered the series Signs of a Psychopath and the episode on this guy was so enlightening.
@A2-mp5jbshe said she’s interested in the PSYCHOLOGY of murderers 🤦🏼♀️which many of us are, not bc we are MURDERERS ourselves but the whole “how can someone do this?” aspect of it. This entire channel is based off of psychological evaluations of experts
@A2-mp5jb so hostile for no reason, did you forget to take your meds?
What a thoroughly compliant prisoner, speaks clearly, describes everything in detail and has the decency to drop dead in prison.
😂😂😂this
So decent it hurts 😅
Are we just going to accept this without questioning how someone can become morbidly obese and die in prison? Did convicts watch his interrogation and keep on his good side by giving him all their pudding? Did guards sneak him plates of bacon and cheesecake, and let him sleep instead of exercise?
@@michaelscott-joynt3215 guards don't make you exercise. They really don't care what you do as long as you don't cause trouble. A lot of people gain weight in jail and prison because eating and sleeping are about the only things to do.
It's refreshing.
The fact that his own sister was on the list is even more sick. They saved lives with that sentence
Calling him sick is anti-semitic
Some Michael Myers shit 🙊
@@operacarmen Genuinely curious as to how saying someone is sick is anti-semetic?
@@jaicilamcsparin3037 Simple.. before criticizing ANYONE .. just MAKE SURE he/she ISN'T a semite .. not a rocket science
@@operacarmen go away troll 🤡
When he said “ I was planning to murder him “! The investigators reaction was priceless . He sat back and raised his hands and was silent in shock !
Right?? Hell of an answer lol
Sidenote : Who , with a job like this, could sleep peaceful at night, or any night....
Can I get a time stamp? I actually tried to watch his reaction but from what I can tell he doesn't sit back, or react at all..he puts one hand in the air as he asks his next question.
@@HolographicCathawk
I can't see it either.
@@HolographicCathawk 00:15 and yeah I can only see he raised his hands that's all
These videos are incredibly well done. All these cases man. Thanks! Keep it bro!
This has to be the easiest AND most difficult interrogation ever conducted by this detective all in one. He handled it like a pro.
okr, whatever his faults. kid was honest
What is your pfp
There was that part where should have dug in a little deeper though near the end, as he might be able to uncover the killers motivations for murder such as delusional disorder.
@@skycloud4802 this interview is weird. The detective already knows the answers to the questions. He's leading him the entire way. If this was the initial interview how would he know about taking off his jewelry, the ring missing from his pocket, his intent to kill Andre the previous day?
Fr Lol Is That What I Think It Is 😂
What kills me most, is that Jaime seemed like a pretty sweet kid. The photos of him smiling, may give you a glimpse into his personality, as well as his willingness to do things that other people might consider strange, because he was a trusting soul.
All that from smiling for a photo?
@@maskettaman1488 absolutely
@@zuberk8812 I guess it's good to have an imagination
@@maskettaman1488 I bet there isn't a single picture of Michael with the same joy in the eyes.
@@maskettaman1488 you can see evil in somebody’s eyes
If I were the detective, I would have been so tempted to keep asking “why?” and forget what I was there to do. What a nightmare. Demonic.
the devil is working harder than ever these days, he knows his time is coming soon. god bless you & yours 🙏🏽
Demonic is what it was and that killer was definitely possessed by the devil
@@marissaxortega The devil does not exist. Give the people something to fear in order to control them. That is all what the devil is, an illusion fed to common people to keep them stupid, docile and make them obey without questioning things. This worked well in the Middle Ages, snap out of that Middle Age mentality.
yeah, like they mention in the video the cop could have asked further when the kid said he didn't think it was right or wrong.
like the kid is so casual and open about the killing but when it comes to motivation he doesn't offer much more than "I don't know"
just seems so weird to not want to talk about that part at all....
Right? Like if it had been a bully or someone then I'd at least understand the motive. But it was literally his friend and for no other reason other than he felt like it.
Imagine being the killers sister, finding out your brother also planned to kill you. Imagine being Andre, who was almost lured to his death but wised up last minute, knowing what you know now, knowing Jaime didn't make it simply because he trusted his friend. This is such a messed up situation. All the poor kids involved, I feel for them (not including the killer)
That is terrifying to listen to. You can hear how proud he is of himself when he says _"....yes where the jugular vein is...that's what I was aiming for"_ as if he'll get a gold star for knowing that fact. Don't think I've seen a creepier interview than this.
Ew I know 🙁 that’s so ew
Isn't a gold star Southwoods mascot?
Sounds like a smug a**hole!
Why... just why...
Watch the interrogation of Stephen McDaniels if you haven’t already. That one is pretty chilling
This is one of the most disturbing Interrogations I've ever seen, the kid is so cold and heartless. How someone so young could be capable of such evil is just terrifying
They are not technically evil, they are rather half-emotionless. Just like Nazzi's ideal of "overman". For instance, there is no evidence of sadistic pleasure, it is rather a curious vivisector. He is proud of commencing a feat of something large, extraordinary.
I agree it's not evil its mental illness
Autism
The only thing I cannot figure to make this complete about his actual mental behavior, is why did he not tell the truth off the bat?
@@nameunknown2510 He’s mentally ill yeah but the fact he planned this makes it evil, He was fully aware of everything he was doing. He even described every detail of how he planned it and went through with it. We can’t gonna keep excusing these behaviors with mental illness so they can get a slap on the wrist. I battle with depression and suicide but I’m not out here plotting to murder people.
As a middle school teacher, I just can’t even imagine someone this young doing something like this and bragging about it like they were “clever”. Just mind blowing
Wht kids are produced by the sons and daughters of Satan. I am not sure why you pretend to be surprised.
You middle school teachers usually create monsters like this.
@@fataldreidel5846 Parents, mental illness, pedophiles, and torture from fellow students create monsters.
Truly beyond comprehension!
i like how you underestimate your middle school students, when murderers under 10 years old literally exist. if anything, ur one of those teachers who dont believe bullies will bully others at school or at all
lots of comments so this may have already been mentioned, but
Fun fact: Andre Martin 10:08 (who was almost murdered, too) grew up to become a Miami-Dade police detective as a direct result of this crime...
My heart breaks for that baby's family. This was just a senseless and unreasonable loss
Yup
Pure madness
Agree. I don't think the law should have any mercy on this guy's age. He needs to be put down. He's a psycho
Aw he looked so innocent and cute.
Bruh he ain't a fucking infant
I am so grateful that he wasn't able to EVER kill someone else. I really feel for that poor boy, Jamie, and his family.
I was around his age when I legit tried to kill someone. Fortunately, it didn't work. I had no plan, no story worked out. I was just mad. And totally oblivious to how big a deal it would have been.
For anyone curious about the circumstances, my parents had adopted a child and my whole world went to shit. She was about 6 years younger than me. One day I totally lost my temper and tried to smother her with a pillow. She fought like a wildcat, and it wasn't as fast and easy as in the movies. To this day, I don't think she knows I was trying to kill her that day.
I really don't think kids at that age can really grasp the seriousness of violent crime. This kid reminds me of that guy who killed his college classmate for no reason. His psychologist said out of his 200 cases, he was the most dangerous. I do think this kid was just as dangerous- maybe it's the having no reason part that's so... off.
@@poutinedream5066 you got therapy right? That’s not even slightly normal. I hope your sister is okay these days, I doubt she doesn’t remember it the way you claim.
@@poutinedream5066 When I was 7 I knew it was important not to kill people. And that death can’t be reversed. To make it to 14 and be that detached from others is definitely either an outright excuse for THAT much selfishness or evidence of an inherent defect.
@@poutinedream5066 good grief
@@poutinedream5066 Wow, no. It is not normal to lose your temper and try to kill someone; there's a huge difference between your sister pissing you off and you trying to hit her, and trying to smother someone. That's not normal kid gets angry behavior, that's full intent to kill.
"I really don't think kids at that age can really grasp the seriousness of violent crime" Not remotely true. This is general consensus bias. You have a view that you think is common among people; it is not. Eighth graders know what killing is.
Please see a therapist. If you have views based on personal trauma, that sucks, but go to a therapist. Get some help.
Jamie's parents had to hear those details in court, my heart breaks for them.
I live in a country against firearms or selling knives to anyone .
@@bridgetburke7906 How do you cut your steak?
@@bridgetburke7906 A Psychopath can't find away of killing people if we just banned selling knives?
@@bridgetburke7906 Where?
@@deborahhershey3045 top tier reply
34:54 sends shivers down my spine. The fact he coldly and adamantly states, "no I'm not," is just haunting.
That was truly disturbing. To hear a kid so young, speak so calculated and emotionless about the murder of another kid. My heart goes out to the family of Jaime, so sad, so very sad.
Gets very little love at home and watches too many movies. What a clown that one is.
Psychopath... No feelings
@@pianosenzanima1They do have feelings, but its only negative emotions. Mostly rage and contempt, however psychopaths can feel good when getting supply such as sex, drugs or criminal behavior. They are so empty they need the thrill to feel alive. I would say that psychopathy is basically the most extreme form of narcissism, they are so self-absorbed and egocentric that absolutely that no one else or nothing else matters but themselves. This is a coping mechanism that is learnt and adopted in childhood. Its almost a given that these types of offenders go through some real rough shit during their youths, they learn to split off from their true feelings and become empty soulless shells of their true selves, its really a tragedy on every level
@@hoodiegamer9256 no, that’s not what caused this….. SEVERE mental disease, a lack of love might make you a killer, but it would also make you bitter and hateful of the world…. this kid isn’t bitter, he is just detached from all moral attachments and emotions…. deciding to kill somone to him was like anyone else deciding to to watch any particular genre of movie… just what he felt like doing at the time… he doesn’t think about the long term future…. it also it one of the reasons he’s an intelligent student… he just focuses on the problems
@@stevesand8845 are you… praising him? Like he’s some unique guy and not an attention seeker who probably never got told no by his parents?
Props to that interrogator for keeping his cool the entire time... that was beyond intense
To me he’s a shitty interrogator. Keeps cutting the kid off and asking irrelevant questions.
Well, it's Florida. They're used to dealing with the worst of the worst... racists, transphobes, climate-deniers etc. Psychopath teenage murders are nothing once you've had someone wave an American flag in your face. You kind of get numb after you've been misgendered a few times.
Misgendering is almost as bad as killing and eating your friend. Like that bear in Beastars did.
@@amarissimus29 lmfao what
@@amarissimus29 what the actual f is this comment ? tf
His poor mother, imagine sending your son to school and him getting murdered by one of his friends, how horrific
😖😭🤮😔
You need to stop putting yourself in these conditions.
@Peace For The Ummah read it again..
I didn't say that
@Peace For The Ummah idiot 😂
For both mother's, your child goes to school and one comes out deceased, one comes out a murderer. To think that your child not only did such a gruesome crime, but had been planning it and did it to his best friend
“I wanted to get André first…BEFORE I got Jaime”. This kid is a true psychopath. The fact that Jaime was so trusting and innocent almost makes this worse (if that’s even possible).
So sad how much he obviously trusted his friend enough to even to turn around and let him cover his mouth. He continued to see the best in his friend and trust him up until his literal last moment. So horrible and terrifying
Even beyond that when he generously asked him to at least not kill him :( So sad for him
@@GrubeAbzeichen
Truly heartbreaking.
He was dumb
My son is 13.. I can't imagine how his parents felt... my heart breaks for jaime and his family... when all of this came out and Andres parents discovered how close their son was to the same fate I can't imagine the relief they'd have felt.
@@GrubeAbzeichen 😞
Thinking about how much Jamie trusted his friend to even go in a stall, cover his eyes, and lean head back is sad. He probably loved his friend who killed him and never would have hurt a hair on his friend.
As the commentary says, it was probably more fear and compliance than love.
He was naive. Poor boy!
sorry im gonna be unpolite.. but that's a very stupid comment.
Anyone with even a normal friendship without much trust would have done the same, unless they already suspect something.
Its a "friend" asking to show you something, even if its in a weird way, NO SANE PERSON would think "oh maybe he's gonna stab me to death now, let's be careful" -.-
@@WastedTalent83 Andre obviously had second thoughts and said no. And for good reason as it's an extremely weird request.
True. And this blind trust and love got him murdered.
As a parent of two kids, I can't begin to imagine the horrendous pain Jaimie's parents feel, knowing what this monster did to their little angel. Praying for them to find peace one day.
And to think he wanted to do it to their other child, his sister
Well, kids with over achievements parents feel pressured that they’re worthless. Therefore, weakness opens for negative thoughts and actions; like him
That’s life 😂😂😂
Not just Jaime, but Andre as well, and the parents of Michael. I can't imagine as a mother listening to my child talk like this. I also feel for the poor stenographer that had to sit there and record all of this. How did that investigator stay so "matter-of-fact"? I'll bet off camera and outside the room he lost it.
You'd be surprised to hear that in a statement by the parents they said they felt sorrow for Michael's parents because the mother knew what it was like to lose a child and offered remorse to them.
I think the fact he’s 1000% completely honest to the detail terrifies me even more imagine if he was older.
Agree with you totally,this boy is a monster,imagine when he gets older,he would be the demon,the devil.OMG.😡😡😡
@@oliverstone9681 He died in 2021
I mean interagators want honesty and he was honest idk how that terrified you, it's worse when they swear they didn't do it and now u gotta waste hours upon hours.
The fact he did it to a friend shows he’s just a cold hearted killer. He even showed no remorse or anything.
With friends like Michael, who needs enemies! He's twisted and needs to be locked up!!!!
@@kimkelly5512 not. But minimum executed by hanging. He should be executed.
It’s crazy how many kids kill their friends. They say your more likely to be murdered by a family member or friend in general.
@@kimkelly5512 psychopaths have "friends" in the sense that they relate to people simply to be socially integrated, something they feel like they need to be a part of society. They don't "want" friends, they think the should have one. All in all, friendships require empathy and so on, qualities psychopaths don't have. in some cases, their superficial charm works wonders in attracting people who are insecure or tend to be influenced easily, in some cases even leading them to be accomplices to their crimes. for example in the case of the columbine shooters, you have a clear psychopath (harris) and an insecure, shy person (klebold) who fell for the psychopath's confidence. they were not friends, it was a one-sided relationship of one being used by the other.
@@navaryn2938 yep, and the most unnerving ones are psychopaths with iqs over 160, you and almost EVERYONE around would never even realize , its a waking nightmare
This is the best police interrogation channel on TH-cam. I've seen loads but this channel has so much more informative narration than all the others.
Most of the others are like watching paint dry
It is the Best
@@tenaciousduk6587 Or they try to hard and end up being really annoying
Its by far the best.. they include everything in the video literally everything and then most of there videos no one has seen and if they did they sure as fook did not get all the footage and information that explore with us would.. they next level good
I am not so keen on the stopping and narration. I wish they would just show these interrogations without interruptions and OTT analysis
Cops interrogating criminals are more polite than when interviewing victims.
they have to be nice to criminals as part of their interrogation technique iirc, they think being nice to narcissists will get a confession easier (sometimes it does)
Yeah because being mean and rude is gonna make people wanna talk. Not much brain activity up there eh bud?
Well it's important to make them cooperate
@coleholden8241 and you think a victim would want to when they’re acting like that? it makes them want to shut down & just leave, not even caring ab justice bc it’s clear they won’t get it when the cops are treating them like they’re in the wrong or trying to pick their story apart.
@@NyssineThey can still be nice to victims, especially those of sexual assault. It’s less than 0.01% of assaults that are false, so maybe they should be nice.
Shit, Man. I don't usually struggle with interrogations but this kid had me sick to my stomach. The fact that Jaime even turned around asking him not to kill him didn't even get to him. He even checked Jaime's eyes after. It's heart wrenching. That poor little boy. Very glad they sentenced him to life regardless, he definitely would've done more.
same.
Man what a sick kid. I legit had to go through the same weakening and disgusted feeling I felt listening to him explain what he did when reading this comment.
I’ve watched plenty of true crime but this one has to be one of the most fucked I’ve seen.
I'm sure he will have another murder conviction while in jail.
Dude what's disturbing most to me is how it turned into a literal casual conversation / Q and A half way through.
It's like the detective and the kid are talking about it as if they are drinking morning coffee
He's so well spoken. And he talks like it's just a normal thing to do.
It's normal traits of a psychopath
Yeah the brain lacks certain parts & usually have no idea wtf feelings are
Sick
@@brazyrist Damn. I can't accept the fact that humans without feelings exist. I'm a dominant Fi user and this is easy to comprehend yet hard to accept. Humans without feelings...
@@twitzmixx8374 its a scary sight when the mind betrays you that’s for-sure
The fact that he even had a notebook with all his plans make it seem like a movie. It's crazy to think that the person you're having a friendly conversation with in the grocery store one day is actually a murderer.
At least the psyco seems to kill someone they know and there were lots of signs to help us avoid them.
I was casual friends with a guy in a game chat for a couple of years...he wound up killing a little girl, assaulting her body, and planned to eat her (he did not get that far). I was so horrified and shocked when I found out that I hyperventilated. He's been on death row for years.
@@fl0nk11 nobody is perfect
We shouldn’t become arrogant thinking we are better than somebody just because they made a mistake
@@fl0nk11 “casual friends” u were best buds with a child killing pedophile buddy
@@maalikserebryakov Jesus Christ, dude. I hope that's an attempt at dark humor.
i appreciate you pronouncing his name correctly
This is nightmarish. I remember being 14. I remember how much my friends meant to me at that age. It's so heartbreaking. Rest peacefully Jaime x
Something has gone terribly wrong with kids and adults these days . To much time on violent video games ? God only knows or maybe the devil doe's
@@stephenhensley5631 this was 2004
@@stephenhensley5631 yeahnah
violence in media isn't just video games, it's been present for decades in many forms. please stop with the "but the violent vidya games!". I'm sorry but it kinda makes you look stupid.
@@stephenhensley5631 the dust particles from that old bible you keep picking up must be affecting your brain.
@@stephenhensley5631😢
As a teacher, the guard’s response to a student telling him there was someone bleeding in the bathroom absolutely devastated me. Even if you think a kid is messing around or pulling a prank, if someone says a kid might be bleeding, you need to check in on the kid! He clearly does not prioritize student safety and I hope he no longer works in schools.
Yeah no shit, people that take those jobs are in it for the easy money, it's not a job to them.
Teens prank too much still yes I would have peaked as soon as it was clear!
He certainly didn’t and in doing so, he caused other children so much trauma that could have been avoided if he had just taken a few steps into the bathroom and look. Who knows, there may have been a chance he could have even saved Jamie 😔💔
You’re acting like the security guard murdered Jaime or something lmfao
@@sagittaria9566nah they’re really not. it would have taken the security guard less than 1 minute to check and he didn’t. ofc he did not kill the kid and it’s not his fault (murderer is 100% at fault), but there’s a chance he didn’t die immediately and the security guard could have saved him if he checked
The scary part about this young man and about this case is recognizing that there are most likely other unrecognizable individuals who walk among us on a daily basis. 😓
among us
Unrecognizable? He was a bully who collect ed knives and fantasized about killing his sister. It would have been easily recognized that he was dangerous if anyone paid attention to that part of his life.
@@luxurypetscz If only his mom looked in his room more often lol, she bought him his gloves :( poor mom
They are not unrecognizable. Even school shooters like Nicolas Cruz had very clear signs. It just that everyone chose to ignore them.
@@SgtJohnRemairez not poor mom. Irresponsible mom.
I needed better questions from the investigator about his state of mind and his justifications. This was very different from other interrogations I’ve seen.
Looking at the case photos you can draw lines as to how this kid was so deranged. Likely the parents didn't take responsibility of his upbringing and wasn't taught right/wrong. All the crime/horror books and movies he had and a TV at his bedside. Might've been the root where he got obsessed about violence/gore. Unfortunately we won't know, but it'd be interesting to learn more.
He probably had a belief that the weak don't deserve to live, and that he was given the role of Arbiter. I won't pretend I understand how everyone's mind works but when he said he doesn't think it's right or wrong it means that he read a lot of things, probably nihilistic texts that shaped his beliefs. However there's also a lack of emotion or rationality there if you plan on acting on these beliefs. Every person has personal beliefs but they don't act on them, he also had no life preservation instinct meaning that he didn't value his life at all and that makes me think he was a nihilist.
@@d-baneThis is not what bad parenting looks like. Not even close. No environment will produce this, except maybe the most extreme.
@@MementoMoriGrizzlyI don't think this had anything to do with nihilism, or anything you could read, or any type of belief at all. This is the result of a very damaged or malformed brain. No question.
A nihilist may not see any LOGICAL value in life, but that is a very different thing than simply lacking in the automatic physiological responses of a healthy brain, such as fligh of fight response.
i watched this video yesterday and i've just came back because this has been haunting me the whole night. it's genuinely so sad and terrifying, Jamie seemed so innocent and kind. he trusted his friend, just to be murdered a painful death at such a young age. he had a whole life ahead of him. some people are just too cruel.. Micheal didn't even have a reason to murder him!! my sincerest condolences to Jamies parents. i hope he's in heaven, or just peacefully resting.
He might not have wanted to admit it, I would say to himself, above all
He looks so adorable, I really feel for his parents.
He had a reason but didn't want to say it
Wait, like… do you feel sad or something? I felt nauseous when they described the body and all but the way you typed this makes it seem like you feel an emotion similar to losing a loved one
If this video haunts ya you must be under 15. This is the Internet where a kid killing another kid is preferable over some of the other shit we see on here
I watch murder mysteries all the time, this one was heavy. I have a 14 yr old, and the way this child was talking was chilling. I can't imagine how his friend Andrew feels about surviving 🥺
@Diana H Teenagers are still children.
@Diana H yes but 14 is a child in their adolescence
@@halatiny6537 So, just a child with extra steps
@@sn0wt1ger there is a point a teenager crosses the line from child to an adult - this is one of them .
*Andre
Took the investigator by surprise with that out of blue confession. I nearly fell out of my chair when he said that after a basic question like that.
Yeah same. Wished he wouldn't have cut the video there immediately
I had just pulled up the driveway and literally pushed the brakes and said “WTF” when he said that straight out. This kid is a Monster for reals!
Now I understand why my mother was so strict about my friends and who I could sleep over with, etc. that’s so scary. Just horrible. A kid that calculated and smart. He was obviously a bully. And the father was stupid as hell. I’m sorry you give your kid a collection of knives?? Smh 🤦🏽♀️
A knife collection is actually pretty normal. Me and all my friends collected air soft guns and knifes when we were in the 8th grade.
Young boys love playing with knives so that’s not a big red flag. If he was using them to cut up animals or do other stuff maybe, but having knives to whittle sticks or help with fishing is normal young man behavior
@@igotthis33 True but I’d prefer mine not to at all.
@@lindabrown6014did you resent your mother for that, at the time? Agree re the knives, reckless.
Fr bunch of white little kids with trauma these days 😂
This is incredibly unbelievable. How the hell does a human get into such a state of mind?
born w it or thru trauma
edit : stop mentioning me i dont care to argue anymore LOL, searching further for an answer just confused me more. if u have sources to back up ur reply then by all means plz do.
@@nico9544 more trauma than born with it
Aint trauma dog that kids just fuked in the head
@@Lovely_planet More actually born with it. Even with trauma one doesn't do this. I have truama and so do alot of others but most are non violent
@@reynaldoponce7866 “most” trauma can affect people in crazy ways, especially a lot of trauma.
Andre is probably so relieved that he didn’t choose to go into the stall with him, that must be a terrifying thought to have to reflect on
It affected him. It made him become a cop.
@@AltRightMustDie How do you know if I may ask?
Yeah he probably had some gut feeling and acted on it
@@tryzub353 pretty simple.. google
@@letsRumble814 Thanks. Some people really are that stupid.
I was disturbed by how articulate and unwavering he was in his descriptions of horrible things. Chilling.
I am also surprised to see that his belongings, both in the drawers and the cupboards, are very tidy
It never ceases to amaze me the lack of power we have to protect ourselves and our children from monsters even when they are obvious and a clear and present danger, we can do nothing.
17:35 "Which was a lie." was somehow the thing that chilled me to the core during his confession.
Usually suspects who are caught try to make themselves sound less guilty; for example, some admit they injured the victim but didn't measure their strength/notice that they were actually hurt. Instead, he was really telling the detective "I made no mistake, I knew I was doing this."
That’s usually a sign of psychopathy or severe mental health issues if they don’t try to get away with it or they talk about it as if they’re telling a normal story
It made me feel sick as well 😢how? 😔😞💔
He must've thought he would be tried as a minor, but was literally a day too late as the interrogation was on his birthday. I'd love to have seen the look on his face when he was told he'd be tried as an adult and recieve LIFE without the possibility of parole!
Well, he wasn't particularly afraid of any consequences. His thinking patterns weren't normal other then the carefully planned "diabolical master-mind" technical details involving his decision. His actions were mainly robotic.
He died last year in prison he stole jaimes life so I'm glad he didn't get to enjoy living out his life he didn't deserve to live
He doesn't care, are you mad?
He clearly didn't think about the consequences at all.
Confrontational questions encourage self examination sometimes
They saved many lives catching this guy early on. They should study this guy to understand more about what makes a killer think the way they do
He died in prison
They should start integorating all the kids and teens that abuse, torture and kill animals because too many serial killers have started with abusing animals.
@@Tateygb wait what, can u explain??
Well, there's no way he could've gotten away with it
Simple not what good guys do
I love this fricking channel!!!
7:08 It was his birthday?! That can't be a coincidence. Was killing his poor friend a gift to himself? Jamie's poor parents had to have been devastated to learn of their son's murder and the lack of reasoning behind it. To know it was a "friend" he trusted and there was nothing he could have done to prevent it because neither him or anyone could have seen this coming. Michael's parents were probably decimated by their son's cruel and cold act of murder that he just decided he wanted to do for no reason that even he could think of.
It wasn’t his actual birthday. He simply noted he just turned 14. Meaning fairly recently he turned 14.
Edit: nvm it was close enough. His birthday was the day before. He wanted to do it on his birthday but didn’t get opportunity for Andre. So he planned for Jaime the next day.
How does this guy get obese in prison and die from it?
Damn so he just BARELY made it into the "trial as an adult" age range.
@@TheSCPStudio It’s terrifying to think that he could’ve not gone to jail if he had done this two days prior.
@@Hunter-nh3yy yea start fully watching the video before trying to correct someone
I am speechless. I can’t imagine how Andre’ must have felt when he was told he was the original target. I would really like to know are people born as sadistic monsters or are they made? Jamie looked like such a sweet boy, he was too trusting. RIP
I’ve read in the book “Behave” that psychopaths and sociopaths have deformities in their brains, and they are unable to have a “normal” response to stressful situations because their brains can’t produce the stress hormones.
Both. Psychopaths are born as sadists, people with a narcissistic personality disorder f.e. developing it. Cause part of NPD is sadism. So. U can be born with it & u can developing it. 🤷♀️
Psychopaths are born, not made. Sociopaths and narcissistic personality are made.
@@marie_84 psychopaths are not necessarily sadists.
Both true, I believe. Some people have defects physically from birth, why not mentally ? Bad brains, poor wiring, psychopathy. An incomplete brain will show signs of aberrant behavior, but adults have to notice & acknowledge it, then get the child treatment. Other times it's abuse, of various kinds, that cause a mind to split into paths of aberrant behavior as a way of dealing with the abuse that the child doesn't know how to properly deal with.
Some monsters are born, some are created.
I can’t imagine what Andre was thinking when he found out what happened. It breaks my heart to think that a kid would have to have something like that on his mind.
😖😖😖😖
He was probably very greatful and thankful and it made him appreciate life more .
Probably a shit ton of relief and anxiety all at the same time
Survivor's guilt
Someone said in an earlier comment that he went on to become a police officer in FL and that he was doing well
How sad , and informative we never know what's going through another person's mind
I remember this while living in Miami. Not only the family was so heartbroken, but the whole community was. 💔
To have experienced this as a community could make you doubt everything and everyone 😬
@@tenaciousduk6587 Not really, that's the entire point of the entire community feeling it... If your community brushed it off, as so many now these days do, that's when you need to start doubting everything and everyone..
I remember everyone thought it was someone that went into the school, no one thought it would be another student
Seeing the victims parents on the news was heart wrenching
read too much stephen king.
That “um, I was planning to murder him” so bluntly caught me so far off guard. Jesus. He’s chillingly creepy.
Even the detective was shook.
I literally paused and said “holy shit” out loud, he was just so nonchalant
Right omg I had to pause the video wtf
He doesn’t even wait two seconds before flatly replying to the detective, the lack of emotion and empathy is astounding. And to know he’s only 14…. Really fucks with my brain 🙃
@@louisvandermerwe8080 You don’t know how to right the name Putin?
Putin kind of resembles this kid, although he doesn’t have the balls to kill everyone and just hires people to do it.
So weak.
I’ll be glad to know what the actual diagnosis of his illness is, as many people say he won’t live very long and is terminally ill.
Which is a good thing, obviously.
Life will always be unfair, just because ONE person can create so much chaos. RIP Jaime.
There is evil everywhere. Everywhere. Even in places you’d never expect it.
Yes, it's so frustrating that Love doesn't have the same affect... but evil is a million time stronger !
There is such a terrible imbalance here
That just shows you how much power we have. We can shape the _UNIVERSE_ to our will, given the right _ACTIONS_ - love is usually passive and unconditional (think about your parents), which is why it usually doesn't have as strong of an effect.
That’s why we have to use our power to CREATE GOOD. There’s always going to be adversaries and sick individuals.. it’s the world of polarity.. RIP Jaime 🙏🏼
@@adambane1719 facts, it’s so easy to convince someone to do bad but so hard to convince them to follow good it seem
Man this is tragic. At the same time people are just... incredible how on earth could he think like that? Id like to see more of a psychological explanation and interviews with this guy.
Not only think like that, but also think he could get away with it. Murdering someone in a school with so many ppl around. its not like something simple like hiding a marijuana joint on your person.
Kid 1000% would have been a serial killer. Terrifying. Where can we see his parents interviewed? I’m even more fascinated to see this bunch.
His parents appear pretty average. They were concerned because he showed signs of potential OCD. Behaving, having good grades. This kid is without a doubt a psychopath despite being too young for the diagnosis. Someone born unable to feel empathy is something no parent can overcome nor detect when they intelligently hide it. This kid was unfortunately too convincing when wearing his mask.
@@deletekeysbut he can only hide it because of a hyper masculine culture. I'm sure dad praised him for being emotionless like a real man.
@@silencemeviolateme6076 "but he can only hide it because of a hyper masculine culture"
This tells me you have no fucking clue as to what you're talking about. A psychopath can be a seemingly empathetic person who is very in tune with emotions only because of their overdeveloped sense of cognitive empathy....what our culture is means fuck all to a psychopath who is wearing a mask, they will hide in every social personality imaginable to reach their end....
"I'm sure dad praised him for being emotionless like a real man"
I could careless as to what head canon you have about his personal life. Making assumptions only makes you appear ignorant....every household is different and you clearly didn't bother to do any research into the subject of his household....
@@silencemeviolateme6076Damn. Your dad tried telling you not to lose your mind one day because your barbie got ruined, and here you are all these years later still holding a grudge over it.
Crying=vulnerability.
If people see you cry over something, they know that causes an emotional response. Emotional response=not thinking logcially=open to manipulation.
But no, go ahead and blame your daddy because he never explained it thoroughly to you, and you could never forgive him for just trying to get your mental breakdown behind closed doors.
Sad. For you I mean.
I agree that he would have killed again if not caught. I think he’s psychopath, though. They are born, and even though there are genetics involved that lead to some families having more psychopathic traits, I don’t believe his parents “made” him like this. Psychopaths have different neurological “wiring” and lack some capacities of non-psychopaths (empathy primarily), and they can happen “randomly” in families.
The scary thing is people like this walk calmly among us, going unnoticed, flying below the radar, while plotting their crimes, without empathy for anyone in particular, or their closest friend.
(Andre must realise every day how close he came to death at the hands of his “friend”)
Scary thought
Litterally every school shooter had anti depression meds in their system or were withdrawn from them. Known to cause homicidal ideation.
LMAO
As he got older he did. But obviously at that age, both boys were oblivious to death and it's true meaning.
I think most understand, or learn to realize legally or for whatever reason that they have limits to what they can do.
This investigator is a boss. Imagine sitting in front of an animal like that and just keeping up a friendly tone while extracting all this horror.
Animals r better. That's a insult to animal race. He's a monster.
Yeah my head was spinning through this interrogation and felt light headed and woozy. Props to the detective, seems like an incredibly tough and high stress job
"So then i stabbed him"
"Yesss"
this kind of criminal is an easy payday,they dont even have to try
@@tarmaskhalifa871you Americans don't know what race means
Jaime was my friends cousin. I will never forget the day we were in class and his cousin broke down crying…. This was honestly heartbreaking…. Michael, you reap what you sow.
He's dead.
The idea to listen a 14 year old talk about murdering as naturally as eating. And hear his victim was another innocent 14 yrs old, with no provocation its the most gutwrenching video I've watched so far from all the crime-tubers yet!
I feel very very sad and pain for Jamie. Its just... unbearable.
This is so unreal..that poor kid Jamie
Imagine his life at home with demonic, neglectful parents. They off the hook. Son knows nothing more. I hope they rot in hell.
@@barbaraiannone4630 why you say demonic parents? What did I missed?
Sumora
You forgot he 2nd “s” in ass eating.
@@323azteca probably being ironic seeing as there was an evidence picture showing Bibles amongst the murderers belongings
I've seen many interrogation documentaries like this one, but only this one gave me chills. Pure psychopathy. No lying game, no boasting, no other disorders. Pure psychopath. Even the one with two little girls with advanced schizophrenia and a fascination for creepy pastas, stabbing another innocent little girl, even that wasn't as chilling as this one... Also imagine being Andre, being conscious from his early years, that he lives *only* because he didn't listen to his *friend* to go "somewhere to see something". He will study over and over the details of how his own death would look like...
he is boasting to an extent like the narrator said he almost sounds eager to share his plans of murder its sick
at least with the one with the two schizo girls, one of em seemed almost oblivious enough that she doesn't really seem to understand the gravity. Equally remorseless, but it was more of a clueless creature than... whatever this evil kid was. This guy knew everything completely, he just didn't care.
I know! That’s something you hold on to forever, I would think
bruh he boasting asf
my friend asking me if i’m gonna ‘cooperate’ tomorrow and shit like that would definitely make me not be friends with him anymore 😂 fuckin weirdo don’t ever talk to me like that lmao 🤦♂️
Poor kid. Can't imagine how scared Jamie must have felt and confused as to why his friend was doing this.
🤩😖😰🫨😮💨🤩
I wouldn't see my son never again ...but this piece of shit wouldn't receive a visit to jail from he's parents.....if this was my case.
Just get your own conclusion people.
It's absolutely heartbreaking. Can't wait to prosecute against these jerks
There sure was shock, but I don't think Jamie was much surprised.
Reason for that is I had a kid in the neighborhood that had similar traits. No matter who he played with, at the end of the day he enjoyed it to hurt and torture them in some or the other way.
Even though he was friend to me, my guards were always up when he was nearby and I would not have been surprised if he turned against me.
Props to this officer. I cant imagine this was easy to hear, especially so casually, from a kid. He kept his tone so evenly interested.
Why do you think Michael didn’t feel bad at all?
Those poor teenage boys who found the victim, I’m sure that isn’t something they will easily forget. Seasoned homicide detectives are effected by some cases & they have seen plenty prior. So for these teenagers to see that breaks my heart. I rly rly hope they get any and all the therapies, support, understanding & compassion that’s gonna be needed to help them heal. I don’t think you can ever fully recover from that- not that it has to consume your life, but I’m sure it’ll change your personality one way or another
Security shouldve!
One is my cousin and he's perfectly fine, didn't really bother him too much
I don't know how you manage to stay positive and emotionally healthy after hearing so many of these stories (I see you've commented on a few). I always slip into full on nihilism and can't find a way out.
I wonder if Andre has watched this. Can you imagine seeing someone talk about your murder, realizing just how truly close to death you were from someone you would never see it coming from. There is a failure somewhere. RIP Jamie 🙏
He is a cop now and knows about it thoroughly
How about his older sister? That knowledge had to hurt deep.
I was wondering the same thing.
@@TheEmotionalPotatoe how can I see this information I’d like to see what you saw. Sounds interesting that he became a cop
Can you provide your source about Andre?
The fact Jaime trusted him & turned around without knowing what his friend had planned, we will never be able to understand the minds of some humans :’(
@@sophiamarquis You are basically judging someone because of a disability, this is the same as racism
His name was spelled Jaime
@@rainbowhistory2107 thank you I will correct it!
@@sophiamarquis Unfortunately, no. Human. We are capable of horrendous things. Trust your instincts.
We all couldve been Jaime as a child. He did nothing wrong but trust his pal!
This is why I’m not friends with weirdos lmao
I can't imagine how it feels for André and his parents to know that he easily would have been a victim too. He is alive by a hair.
I wonder if Andre had a sense that something about Michael's behavior on that day was just "off" and his intuition told him to walk away and not show up at the fence the next day. Thank heaven🙏
@@joanneginever1890 I'm glad he did. I read afterwards that this experience has made him become a police officer. All the best to him!
@@joanneginever1890 Thank heaven?
@@joanneginever1890 "thank heaven" are you saying that heaven deemed Jaime was supposed to die?
@@nodvick did she say that? Out here twisting things. No one unless you hate children is happy to see or hear kids die
The fact that on the first day he tried doing this he assumed that he would be able to slit andres throat in-front of Jaime and then proceed to convince jaime to cooperate and allow him to slit his throat next is just PURE insanity. That thought process is clinically insane
On his birthday.
Pretty sure he said it would happen in two different bathrooms, but he would have probably had blood on him and some explaining to do..
@John Nelson not only that, do you really think that killing the first guy would be noiseless ...
He said towards the end that he would get them seperately
He knew Jaime would be an easy kill.
Could we maybe see an interrogation where the suspect is innocent to compare the differences between them and the guilty ones?
Excellent suggestion, we're actually working on a case like this right now.
"The Haunting Case Of Ryan Waller" Its on this same channel!
@@ExploreWithUs awesome! I look forward to it
Avoid the comments for spoilers!
There’s a case where two twins get interrogated for a homoside, one of them was caught on CCTV. They both had to plea their case. That one is fucking crazy
If I was Jamie's father and this happened, Michael wouldn't even have made it to 15!
Well I understand, but you doing the same thing as this piece of shit wouldn't have helped your family at all would it?
Then you would be in jail too
@@levivandepol1640nah
That school security guard should be fired on the SPOT!!! Doesn't even care someone was bleeding in the bathroom? WTH
I thought the same he should of investigate what was happening in the toilets.
Believe me, this dude must have had nights without a single second of sleep after he heard of what happened.
Either way it wouldn't have mattered. Being stabbed 40 times in the neck isn't something you're gonna make it out of.
As someone who is currently going to Southwood, we have a memorial for Jamie near the teachers parking lot where I suspect the 3 8th graders hang out everyday and the street in front of the teacher’s parking lot was named “Jamie Gough”, this school, to this day, has so much respect for Jamie
It would feel insane to ever use that bathroom again.
Thank you for respecting this beautiful lost child by using the actual pronunciation of his name.
What a horrible situation, I can't imagine how his family must feel.
i was going to say, the officer and michael pronouncing his name incorrectly slightly rubbed me the wrong way.
@@0rchid6lues why? In English that’s how it’s pronounced. I know that it was weird to hear it miss pronounced but 🤷🏻♀️
@@kimberly7901 i understand that, but i feel it should be pronounced the way his parents (oh whoever named him) intended it
@@0rchid6lues i agree, with the killer saying it wrong that does rub you the wrong way
@@kimberly7901 That's probably what Jaime wanted to be called in school. It's not that big of a deal considering what fucking happened.
I hope Jamie's parents and family have the support they need. Jamie deserved a better friend and a longer life.
Imagine being Andre, celebrating Michael's birthday, meeting up with him etc. just to find out from this interrogation that he was going to kill you. Jesus Christ, that gave me chills man.