Would you have made this move? Drop your thoughts below on whether this was a solid bluff. Also would you have made this call if you were the one with AK?
this was a hollow bluff. 2Rs: R1) he did not have any UTG hand readings. He could be running into a set/flush(AQs/KQs); obviously, after turn call, UTG goes nowhere. No bluff would work likely. R2) failed to classify UTG to be a weak/CS. You cannot (successfully!) bluff those types.
@@therealjackwhite1523 yeah I do feel it was a good way to get the honest answer from Bart that he’d definitely fold AK. That being said just because Bart would fold AK, or you’re “supposed” to fold AK doesn’t mean this was a good bluff. I don’t think the player population folds Kx here often enough.
@JohnSmith-nx7zj it truely depends on the table and player... Some players would NEVER bluff here, ... or jam here with QJ or 77... Looks like a backdoor flush or bluff....
That's a very tough way to bluff though... If Villian Mike Postle'd hero and knew 100% he had AK, is that a good bluff? I'm thinking 50/50 the bluff gets through.
@@darylmixan8170well yeah, if you should take a given line at a population level, that obviously implies that if you have decent reads on your table (or specific opponent) then you should deviate from that line. If CO is a maniac who will always bluff when checked to, AK is just a snap call for the STR on the river. And if STR is a weak nit who is never willing to play big pots with a single pair then 87hh is a clear bluff from CO.
Speaking of Mike Postle... Its crazy, allegedly, that he had a blatant cheat code and would rather have the title of being a poker God and attention than a slow cheat. It's scary how many slow cheaters grind cheaters might be out there... Postle is interesting because he rarely played off the Livestream... Dude made around $250,000 on Live stream playing $2-5, $2-5-$10... (effective daily stacks around $2000-$5000)... After a few online scandals went down, I would ask myself about a livestream game "So there are people who have access to my whole cards in real time?"... That's why I believe it'd be crazy playing in some of those nose bleed live streams with $300k common pots and up to $2,000,000 pots...
I'm not sure why a missed front door was all that mysterious. I'm not saying I had guessed Villain had that prior to the river. But when it came time to try & think of possible bluffs, it seemed like Bart could not think of any. Seems like hearts is the obvious choice. As to what villain/caller is trying to find out; was it a good bluff? Yes, it really should work a high percentage of the time. I mean, [real] hero's hand beats nothing played this way for value. But this is why bluffing has risk, people get sticky with top-top [and especially AK]. Caller should have known there was risk when his opponent called the turn. Now KXss does come in on the river here, which should help callers case.
I guess your first paragraph is why your second paragraph is only a “should work” rather than a “will usually work”. I find people just too often convince themselves (I’m guilty of this too) that villains will bluff a missed front door when there is one and so make the call with their top pair.
@ very true makes no sense to flat TT or 77 this deepstacked when you think the villain usually folds single pair holdings on scary runouts (as evidenced by running this bluff).
I don't agree that the CO will check back a 9 often on the river. What can the CO realistically expect to beat with a 9 or 7? I think most halfway decent players would realize they have to bluff.
Underbluffed spot, all the draws miss, rec players are always going to call in theses spots. 200bb deep though AK is probably just a fold in theory, if you play balanced range here you (should) have stronger hands to calm with (KK/KTs/QJ), the reality is that peoples checking ranges are rarely balanced though. I also am not sure 67hh is an ideal bluff candidate on this runout, you probably want something blocking bdfd like AQo with a spade or something. You dont have that much value in this line, so you dont need that many bluffs either.
I would have bet 1/3 pot on the river for thin value. If raised, I'd fold. VERY few non pro's will bluff raise into a river flush. If you get raised - he's got it. You fold and save $ 700 bucks.
Would you have made this move? Drop your thoughts below on whether this was a solid bluff. Also would you have made this call if you were the one with AK?
I’d fold pre because we don’t have position. Yeah AK should call. Especially with As
this was a hollow bluff. 2Rs:
R1) he did not have any UTG hand readings. He could be running into a set/flush(AQs/KQs); obviously, after turn call, UTG goes nowhere. No bluff would work likely.
R2) failed to classify UTG to be a weak/CS. You cannot (successfully!) bluff those types.
I like that he called himself "a try-hard rec"
Came here to say the same. Best part of the ruse.
I am a rec. I’ve only played about 40 hours of live poker in 2024 and primarily play for entertainment
Bart hates this one weird trick.
Dont mind the reverse here, he wanted to be sure that theres no way AK could call lol
@@therealjackwhite1523 yeah I do feel it was a good way to get the honest answer from Bart that he’d definitely fold AK.
That being said just because Bart would fold AK, or you’re “supposed” to fold AK doesn’t mean this was a good bluff.
I don’t think the player population folds Kx here often enough.
@JohnSmith-nx7zj it truely depends on the table and player... Some players would NEVER bluff here, ... or jam here with QJ or 77... Looks like a backdoor flush or bluff....
That's a very tough way to bluff though... If Villian Mike Postle'd hero and knew 100% he had AK, is that a good bluff? I'm thinking 50/50 the bluff gets through.
@@darylmixan8170well yeah, if you should take a given line at a population level, that obviously implies that if you have decent reads on your table (or specific opponent) then you should deviate from that line.
If CO is a maniac who will always bluff when checked to, AK is just a snap call for the STR on the river.
And if STR is a weak nit who is never willing to play big pots with a single pair then 87hh is a clear bluff from CO.
Speaking of Mike Postle... Its crazy, allegedly, that he had a blatant cheat code and would rather have the title of being a poker God and attention than a slow cheat. It's scary how many slow cheaters grind cheaters might be out there... Postle is interesting because he rarely played off the Livestream... Dude made around $250,000 on Live stream playing $2-5, $2-5-$10... (effective daily stacks around $2000-$5000)... After a few online scandals went down, I would ask myself about a livestream game "So there are people who have access to my whole cards in real time?"...
That's why I believe it'd be crazy playing in some of those nose bleed live streams with $300k common pots and up to $2,000,000 pots...
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Im the guy with AK in this hand. Im not a rec 😂
Clearly a rec
No, I’m the rec
Spoiler….
Bart’s grimace when caller reveals it’s another reverse hand did make me laugh 😂
I’m surprised AJ hearts weren’t mentioned as an option
because it raises for sure at some point
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Doesn't any value that led on the turn slow down on the river? That's what i questioned holding the ace of spades.
i was thinking call based on flush draw missing as he was describing potential bluffs
Bart, I'd be interested in hearing more about the player types, table dynamics and personalities in these hands. Thaks!
Which video is this from?
I'm not sure why a missed front door was all that mysterious. I'm not saying I had guessed Villain had that prior to the river. But when it came time to try & think of possible bluffs, it seemed like Bart could not think of any. Seems like hearts is the obvious choice.
As to what villain/caller is trying to find out; was it a good bluff? Yes, it really should work a high percentage of the time. I mean, [real] hero's hand beats nothing played this way for value. But this is why bluffing has risk, people get sticky with top-top [and especially AK]. Caller should have known there was risk when his opponent called the turn. Now KXss does come in on the river here, which should help callers case.
Because it's a 3bet pot there aren't many hearts available, and many of them flop a monster and raise sometimes
@@ninjaherring LOL. But he did have missed hearts!
I guess your first paragraph is why your second paragraph is only a “should work” rather than a “will usually work”.
I find people just too often convince themselves (I’m guilty of this too) that villains will bluff a missed front door when there is one and so make the call with their top pair.
@@ninjaherringAJh 98h 78h 76h
Funny that Bart says “fold pre” and the caller ignores that and rambles about how he’s trying to be super balanced with how he plays the flop.
@@natejohnson3638 which I’m still not sure I buy. Is he really flatting TT/77 on the flop on a draw heavy board?
@ very true makes no sense to flat TT or 77 this deepstacked when you think the villain usually folds single pair holdings on scary runouts (as evidenced by running this bluff).
I don't agree that the CO will check back a 9 often on the river. What can the CO realistically expect to beat with a 9 or 7? I think most halfway decent players would realize they have to bluff.
thought to myself only way i would’ve folded is if i had a heart in my hand. would’ve been a sigh call ofc.
Bet larger on the flop not smaller
Underbluffed spot, all the draws miss, rec players are always going to call in theses spots.
200bb deep though AK is probably just a fold in theory, if you play balanced range here you (should) have stronger hands to calm with (KK/KTs/QJ), the reality is that peoples checking ranges are rarely balanced though.
I also am not sure 67hh is an ideal bluff candidate on this runout, you probably want something blocking bdfd like AQo with a spade or something.
You dont have that much value in this line, so you dont need that many bluffs either.
How is it that "all the draws miss" when QJ made it and back-door spades made it as well. That's a lot of draws that didn't miss.
Tough hand. Not sure I could’ve called that
Ugh I hate the reverse calls - enough of these please
Reverse callers suck royally.
I would have bet 1/3 pot on the river for thin value. If raised, I'd fold. VERY few non pro's will bluff raise into a river flush. If you get raised - he's got it. You fold and save $ 700 bucks.
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