so far, seeing large sizings as a weakness lol, on very dry board u could heavely cbet and make someone fold yes, but this board connects reasonably well with bb flatting range so ur not going to have enough fold equity in co
His reluctance to consider anything that Bart said. He thought he had played this well and wanted confirmation of his good play. The last 30 seconds of the video convinced me of this.
Except Bart said he would fold all day here and caller called the shove and won thousands of dollars... So he made the right decision for the moment, did he not?
@@seslocrit9365 Either he has good read on people, he is on a heater and lucky or opponents are even worse. I mean if I knew the logic of the caller I'd never tried to bluff him with big bets... but with small bets.
This guy talking about that woman and saying “we let her play because she’s so bad.” Does he not realize the rest of the table likely says that about him? He’s a huge fish.
@@sebastianmaccaroni6859 you underestimate how bad live players are lol, i think even nits win a fair amount in low stakes live even if they think caveman style like this. of course, actually good players crush both nits and whales
Bets 3/4 pot on flop: “I see large sizing, I see weakness. I don’t put him in a K because I have a K.” Bets 3/4 pot on turn: “I think he has something, like top pair. KJ, K10.” 😂😂😂
I mean the logic can change because we have more information. The issue is then 3betting. That shit made no sense. I think the villain correctly thought he was doing stupid shit and didn't realize how committed to it hero was. The line actually screams "I have 9T and i bet this much so if I get raised I don't feel bad about folding"
@@tylerhyunlee5047 I agree. Point being his exclusion of a king was incorrect. I would never exclude a king like this for a check all the way to a lot sized bet. Sure, a set you could, but one pair nah.
Yeah that might have been harsh, I seem to remember some pretty weird hands. Also he is just a big talker but he did mention it several times and I don't think it is nothing, he said he watched the villain and he could just tell something was off and he was struggling with decisions and he basically felt like he might have considered folding but then went with the bluff.
@@TheDjcarter1966 yeah I think his problem was he trying to sound like he understands poker theory but in reality he has no idea what he’s talking about and just made what he thought was a good live read
Ah. One of the greats. Dunning-Kruger in full effect. The ending is the icing on the cake for me with him saying “Is it even worth it when people are pulling this type of shit” 😂
What's the point of doing one of these calls with Bart if you're just gonna spend the whole conversation trying to justify awful play and nonsense logic
So we can learn what our opponents are doing and better exploit them. If you didn't learn some of the hallmarks of bad poker in this you must already know everything about fish.
As someone who studied philosophy, trust me when I say this guy is about as far removed from Socrates as possible. Remember, Socrates was famous for knowing the limitations of his own knowledge (Plato recounted “If I know anything it is that I know nothing” as one of the cornerstones of Socrates methods of thinking) and this guy has no clue how much he doesn’t know. I’d have given you extra credit if you compared him to Diogenes, and not just because if he keeps playing poker he’ll end up homeless… Alternatively (and I think this is what you meant) if you said something like “thinks he’s Socrates” then sure.
@@jbarnes8 I meant it’s underrated because at the time I made the reply, this comment only had 3 likes. I felt like it deserved to be the top comment as I think it’s the funniest.
Bart did crack a bit on the river about him hero calling. It’s really tough to coach someone when they know they got it right this one singular instance but don’t understand that carrying the same logic long term will hurt them.
@@tellumyortMy 12 year old nephew has autism. He found a way to do a math problem that worked. But the issue is, I knew it wouldn't work every time. It came to the right answer sometimes, but wouldn't for some problems. So I tried to teach him the right way, but he refused to listen to me when I explained it wouldn't work. He thought he got the right answer and wouldn't hear anything else. He knows I've taught Masters level math. Didn't matter. It took me giving him problems. Making him use his way and get it wrong several times before he understood he was wrong. Took hours of someone with lots of teaching experience. When you get lucky, it's hard to change bad habits.
@Yourfavoritedealer the statistics you just invented are no more true by dint of you being a dealer. You actually need to systematically record a large sample of these things to come close to a decent estimate. You are obviously not doing any of that and imo your educated guess is a bad one.
This is not 2003 at partypoker. No way you should be calling reraise allin on the river with AK on that board and previous actions and be "over 10bb winner"
Lots of contradicting logic. Going in reverse order, this is what I would have done: River: I'd either bet $300 and hope to get a call by KQ/KT or check to induce a bluff against missed clubs. If I don't think there is much of a chance of the player bluffing, I'd prefer to make a blocking bet with the plan to fold to a raise. Turn: I'd check call. The J is a pretty bad card as it takes away one of the hands we can value bet against (KJ), completes a straight, and, depending on the CO's opening range, makes possible two pairs (J8s and J7s)--although that's getting pretty thin when half the table is blinds. Checkraising here bloats a pot OOP with a one-pair hand that prefers to keep the pot small. Unless the opponent is particularly bad, it's going to be hard to win his stack. If the turn was a brick, checkraising would make a lot more sense and to a larger amount (around $500-550). Flop: I'd checkraise to $210. After the opponent calls and the J hits the turn, I'd bet $350. Provided I don't get raised, I'll assume the range to be capped. On the river, I'd bet $700. Preflop: I'd 3-bet to $130
I think he has at least a king, but I don’t think he has a king, but he does have that king at least, so even tho almost a ton beats me, I’m gonna raise 😂 Makes me think of that Danny devito meme, so I just started blastin’
To those who are having trouble understanding why this is so bad given that the guy’s read was right - the reason he was “right” is because he chose to call in on a hand he was right rather than the thousand others where he was wrong
@@aebalcno it's to make good decisions I saw a guy go crazy with a 6 bet all in pf with 72o. He got called by AA and won. He won all the $. As for the caller everything was wrong here. Pf bad, flop $65 into $145 isn't big and his logic was built on it being a big bet. On the turn he did a small raise trying to rep a draw, who does that with a draw? On the river he was targeting KT or KQ but bet at least $150 too much to get called by those hands. Last he called off in a way under bluffed spot.
He goes from being sure his opponent didn't have a pair of kings on the flop to trying to get value from a weaker king on the turn? I wish my range could change mid-hand like that. I would be unbeatable.
😂😂 Then it became a bluff on the river? So he thought V turned Kx into a bluff? All this uncertainty is almost quantum like where Vs hand can chop n change instantly or be two different hands at once!!! This bro is light years beyond GTO
“I’m a really big winner at 2-3-5” …REALLY!? With play like that? No offense, we’re all here to learn, but I would be curious to know how many hours you’ve got logged to determine that. Anything under 1,000 hours probably isn’t a very good sample
I had a whole 6 months of an insane hourly average but I had to drive 1.5hrs so I only played once a week. I thought I was amazing. Then my local poker room opened back up. Granted, northern Ill has a LOT more money than milwaukee. But now that I play many days a week, my hrly has come back down to earth. 1000hrs has to be a Minimum to go by.
@@danielmeuler2877lol I did the same thing 2 years ago, was out of work on shoulder surgery and was playing Foxwoods 1-2 for 40+ hrs/week for about three months. I thought I was making $40/hr cause I’m the best…. I moved to 2/5 and my sun run ended and reality set in 😅
I’m not sure I could have held it together if I was Bart. Didn’t hold back on the title screen however. Poker is alive and well. This guy renewed my faith in that.
"I feel like players at this game , they fold to aggression, which is why I dont 3 bet" Dude, then your 3 bet bluffs make so much money. A lot of people dont understand this. So now, when you 3 bet A4s, A5s, KJs, KTs...etc....youre printing money. If your opponents fold too much, your vluffs print money. If they call too much, your vakue makes money.
@@CabbageMule I don't get it. It's almost like players don't even try to learn. I've played against plenty of regulars at the casino and I'm constantly disturbed by their thought process when going over a hand.
@@XandoFootball Yea, it is wild to me. So much easily consumed poker training content now just watch some and take notes. My guess is it is just egos getting in the way, you can hear it all throughout this conversation. He thinks his understanding is on par with Bart's and just wants to hear himself talk. Then goes in to "All I really need to know from you is should I go up stakes or is it not worth it because I am crushing so hard.". I play pretty low stakes and it blows me away that someone is sitting with thousands in front of them and has these types of thoughts.
The best part is the smug comment about “letting an old lady play even though she doesn’t straddle because she is so bad.” 😂😂😂. This dude is far removed from reality.
“I decided to polarize myself” so I go b60 and leave plenty behind. Polarizing here is betting air or nuttier hands and using mostly an all in sizing… (which would’ve been easier if you sized correctly to $450-500 on the turn check raise)
pre flop aside, the no x/r on the flop is just so bad bc a lot of V's bluffs will have equity and will continue and the air ball bluffs will maybe give you one more street of value if you're lucky
Please stop playing those games and get some coaching!!! The 67 looks like a great bluff spot and if you think that guy is a rec you may need to reevaluate what constitutes a good player.
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj I agree, I dont think a rec would find that bluff unless he was a really bad agro rec. I think the old adage "If you can't spot the sucker within the first half hour, it's you." would also fit here
@armank9927 200 hrs is only 6000 hands max. It's barely a month of work. To determine if you're a winning player, you need about 1000 hours. Around 3,000 hours or 100k hands can start to get an idea of your hourly. It's very possible to go 200-500 hours losing or break even and still be a crusher in these games. People don't understand how small of a sample a couple hundred hours really is.
The thing that jumps out to me the most about this video is that at 16:14, Bart already senses exactly where this is going. Like the first comment he made here is to predict the point of the call.
A lot of people don’t seem to understand the most basic concept of poker is simply that when your hand has an equity advantage over their range, you’re winning a percentage of however much money you can put in. So here say AK has is a 70/30% split in chance to win preflop against CO range, if you get a 3b in to 150 and guy calls, youre winning 70% of his 150 (not exactly bc of equity realization factors and things like this but that’s the whole point)
The caller used knowing the results of the hand to justify his line throughout the hand. He told Bart the story throughout the entire hand that lead to him being a hero genius otr, ignoring everything Bart said along the way...... Also, lol at the caller thinking any definite conclusions can be made from a 200hr sample size.
would love to understand why turning your top pair top kicker into a bluff on the turn (yes, it is a bluff) and then bluffcatching river would ever be good
It’s not really a bluff on the turn unless you think the guy will fold 87s to a small raise. It’s not really a value bet either though which is the problem.
I've seen this video like 3 times and it's funnier every time. Dude doesn't want to listen to bart, he just wants to brag about this "sick call". Bart's face is priceless and the exasperation finally gets to him with the mike postle graph comment😂😂😂
This guy seems like he had random feelings during the hand and tries to justify his terrible decisions afterward. ‘I flatted AK because i didn’t think they would have anything strong and it would be too obvious’ yea, that’s the point of 3-betting with AK, you’re happy to take the pot down preflop with the dead money out there. What he really meant is ‘I’m scared that I will play a huge pot and not flop and A or K so I played scared’ ‘He’s bluff heavy here’? No, you just want to play passively because you have a good but not nutted hand. You would raise with a set here because you wouldn’t be afraid of anything. The raising on the turn is just a classic ‘oh I know you have a hand now’ so you raise now that you’re somewhat confident he can call down with a worse hand. . . Except a J is a terrible card for you, because if you thought he was bluffing on the flop, a J brings in a number of the draws he was bluffing with, and gives outs to others. The rest of the hand doesn’t even need to be explained for how bad it is. It’s okay to makes mistakes, we all fuck up some hands. pretending you’re good and then arguing with Bart, a literal professional, about it is just lolcow behavior.
“I like to play AK like a set when I hit it” Does not play like a set when he hits it “I tried to poloriz by betting big” Only bluffs he has is AT, QT, Q9 of clubs and backdoor heart varieties- that’s 6 total bluff and half are backdoor that should fold flop to such large bet. There’s also TT and 99 but you have to convince the villian that you can x/r turn with pure bluffs like that BUT also somehow just limped in straddle pre to a CO open with TT or 99. Also the “play it like a set” made me so mad because he said that when the 8 paired. What sets does he have? Literally only 77. He does not flat KK or JJ, and 88 just made quads. And is he ever flatting 77 on the flop to a PFR c-bet on K high board with flush and straight draw? Is he THEN X/r on tune with set of 77 when the most obiouse T9 straight draw got there? When you trap with AK, you should play it like a set when you hit it. But make sure that you can actually creditably rep a set in the board.
This guy saw the flop and thought he couldn't possibly be beat and no possible run out could of changed his mind. He also doesn't know how to play his hand.
Hero slow playing AK is what got him paid but it makes it very difficult to navigate through the streets with no information preflop. It worked this time though so kudos to him.
It cant be the worst. I saw someone call a 3-bet jam on the river for PILES with the ace high flush on a four flush, four straight flush, paired board. Board was 7789Tssss. Villain led out river, dude raises, villain jams and dude tanks for 5 mins before calling. Villain obviously rolls over the J of clubs.
Don’t know why tf ppl call these hands in when they make absolute fuckin giga punts but happen to make a decision that works for them in that one specific moment and try to defend the action.
I’m sad we did not start this hand with a breakdown of effective stack definitions; I also really hate this phrase but that would have been the “chef’s kiss” to kicking this call off
"i looked at my graph and it litterally looks like Mike Postle's". I mean if this is how you play and you're not lying about your profits then the next reasonable explanation is that the graph is not the only thing you share with the CTO god.
No intention of taking advice. No intention of learning anything. Just looking to brag about a long term losing call that happened to be lucky. Soon as he said he didnt want to raise pre incase he had to flip I knew we were screwed 😂
Did I hear that right did he say his sample was 200 hours? Does he not know you need about 20 times that sample size to truly know what your hourly rate is?
It's fascinating to me, how some people can ask for advice from someone more knowledgeable than they are, and when they get that advice, they try to argue their side of it. I see this when folks talk to car mechanics, and other occupations. Very peculiar.
I think KQ would probably call. The problem is there’s 8 combos of KQ vs 13 combos of KK, 88, 77 and T9s all of which have hero drawing dead. Not to mention KJ, 87s, AA which all have us crushed. Even if you throw in KTs it’s too thin.
What about villain's play? When hero bet 510$ that shows big strength (2 pair or better). Makes no sense to fold when villain jams at that point. Hero showed commitment to the pot with the 350 raise and then the 510. You only have a 7s for show down. If 2 pair then fine....but only a pair of 7s! Gutsy attempt but I would have just folded to the 510 bet. You missed your flush draw. Accept it and fold against an obvious fish that is more likely to call after showing strong commitment to the pot!
What are you talking about did you not understand what was being represented by both. Flop villian is representing a set. The turn the hero is representing a straight with the check raise so by that line the villian could jam the river because he filled up. The point being it was very good bluff and a decent player would probably fold a straight let alone 1 pair.
Him c betting $64 is pretty strong but what is barreling on the turn? And what can re raise the turn and not the flop. A set and a straight make sense.
I absolutely love the villian line and shove. I think people are not truly giving the shove the respect it deserves. The straddle can’t have KK or JJ since he flat on straddle. It’s hard for him to have set of 8 or 7 since he flat on flop and also the 8 came on the river and Villian has a 7. Meaning the BB literaly only has 2 sets- and each with just 1 combo and other makes literal quads. And what’s more, he did not raise the flop on a K high board with flush and straight draw. Villian can have literally all the boats and quads- straddle has effectively 1 boat, 7 full and that’s 1 combo. The Hero is a fish for calling but for any thinking player, on a super underbluffed board, V raise is insanely good. Id recon it works 99% of the time in this exact spot against any other player.
When I played at Bay and Matrix years ago, the pots were generally bigger in the capped game than in the deep-stack game where 95% of the field is only putting the $ in when it’s a cooler That game was reasonably tough then. it’s likely much tougher (relative to callers skill level) on an average day now than caller wants to realize or admit.
I don’t get why some people in the live chat would think this villain would be bluff jamming AJcc OTR… he has showdown value, also blocks a lot of the hands he wants hero to have here. Bluffing 2nd pair + busted NFD by yeeting river after getting x/r OTT especially when the board pairs is torching… if he’s going to have bluffs, should be weak busted FDs (like 76cc), TT/99, 9xss/9xhh, maybe 65s (probably some random ‘sim approved’ hands like pocket 33-66 in there too, but doubt population is finding those). This fell apart pre though, then really went off the rails when caller decided to click back x/r turn.
Bart, watching you get stacked for 25K at Hustler Casino with AQ off UTG against Sia with AA was pretty terrible as well. Try discussing your own failures from time to time, just for the sake of variety...
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Which of the caller's logic fails stuck out most to you?
so far, seeing large sizings as a weakness lol, on very dry board u could heavely cbet and make someone fold yes, but this board connects reasonably well with bb flatting range so ur not going to have enough fold equity in co
Villain bluffing on the flop and having value on the turn.
His reluctance to consider anything that Bart said. He thought he had played this well and wanted confirmation of his good play. The last 30 seconds of the video convinced me of this.
Pre. Flop. turn. river
That he shouldn't move down and get the fundamentals correct.
3 min in …. This guys logic isn’t the problem . His unwillingness to shut his mouth and have someone better then him explain the spot is the problem
Right but his inability to listen and learn is why he's not thinking logically, so its all a big interconnected web of dumbassery really
Lmao 🤣
Except Bart said he would fold all day here and caller called the shove and won thousands of dollars... So he made the right decision for the moment, did he not?
@@snared_maybe look up what results oriented means before playing poker lmfao
@@snared_ lmfaoooooooooo what game do you play in ? Can I get an invite
Fascinating to get a glimpse into the mind of true fish.
I mean he says he's a winner over 200 hrs so he can't be that big of a fish.
@@seslocrit9365 and you believe that?
@@seslocrit9365200 hrs is nothing. Not enough data
@@seslocrit9365 Either he has good read on people, he is on a heater and lucky or opponents are even worse. I mean if I knew the logic of the caller I'd never tried to bluff him with big bets... but with small bets.
@@seslocrit9365 200 hours is a tiny sample. Fish can totally be on a heater
Respect to Bart for handling this call professionally
This guy talking about that woman and saying “we let her play because she’s so bad.” Does he not realize the rest of the table likely says that about him? He’s a huge fish.
Of course not or there wouldn't be fish
bro shhhhhh.....he might be on youtube...
Bart!...come on dude. You know better. Why are you tapping the tank?
It's worse than that. He says "she's a lady, obviously she's a fish". His entire reasoning of why she's a fish is solely gender based.
Exactly what I was thinking. The guy thinks he is a pro his play is worse than most fish. He had no clue what the bluff was here.
“If I 3-bet with AK, what’s the best that can happen, he has QQ and we get it all in and flip?” said no crusher ever lol
lol I heard that and went right to the comments.... pretty sure the best that can happen is we stack him. Pretty good best case.
Yeah lol I don’t remember the last time I didn’t 3b AKo
said no winning player ever, let alone crusher lol 😂
@@sebastianmaccaroni6859 you underestimate how bad live players are lol, i think even nits win a fair amount in low stakes live even if they think caveman style like this. of course, actually good players crush both nits and whales
I almost said something to the exact same effect. It's baffling how players can have this type of mindset.
Hey buddy, you don’t have to straddle either, they’ll let you play lmfao
Bets 3/4 pot on flop:
“I see large sizing, I see weakness. I don’t put him in a K because I have a K.”
Bets 3/4 pot on turn:
“I think he has something, like top pair. KJ, K10.”
😂😂😂
I mean the logic can change because we have more information. The issue is then 3betting. That shit made no sense. I think the villain correctly thought he was doing stupid shit and didn't realize how committed to it hero was. The line actually screams "I have 9T and i bet this much so if I get raised I don't feel bad about folding"
@@Tsiphon but u cannot just add back the hands you excluded from villains range in earlier streets
@@tylerhyunlee5047 I agree. Point being his exclusion of a king was incorrect. I would never exclude a king like this for a check all the way to a lot sized bet. Sure, a set you could, but one pair nah.
Imagine you call in and see the title of the video is “the worst played hand in the history of poker”
Ikr poor guy
Yeah that might have been harsh, I seem to remember some pretty weird hands. Also he is just a big talker but he did mention it several times and I don't think it is nothing, he said he watched the villain and he could just tell something was off and he was struggling with decisions and he basically felt like he might have considered folding but then went with the bluff.
@@TheDjcarter1966 yeah I think his problem was he trying to sound like he understands poker theory but in reality he has no idea what he’s talking about and just made what he thought was a good live read
I can only dream of this
Better than the recent guy who got wrecked for being a cheater and awful person
Ah. One of the greats. Dunning-Kruger in full effect. The ending is the icing on the cake for me with him saying “Is it even worth it when people are pulling this type of shit” 😂
I thought Bart was going to say, "what kinda shit, calling super light outta position on the river to a jam with one pair?". 😂😂😂
@@Mossy5150 technically it is two pair kings and 8s
I knew it was gonna be a banger when he said he set mines with AKos lol
"He's a rec player, huh?"
Stop Bart, he's already dead.
What's the point of doing one of these calls with Bart if you're just gonna spend the whole conversation trying to justify awful play and nonsense logic
So we can learn what our opponents are doing and better exploit them. If you didn't learn some of the hallmarks of bad poker in this you must already know everything about fish.
He’s pressure testing and allowing the guy to show his thinking
Still tilting!
You really think the caller learned anything?
The epitome of a freshman that took one college course in philosophy and suddenly is Socrates.
Underrated comment right here
As someone who studied philosophy, trust me when I say this guy is about as far removed from Socrates as possible.
Remember, Socrates was famous for knowing the limitations of his own knowledge (Plato recounted “If I know anything it is that I know nothing” as one of the cornerstones of Socrates methods of thinking) and this guy has no clue how much he doesn’t know.
I’d have given you extra credit if you compared him to Diogenes, and not just because if he keeps playing poker he’ll end up homeless…
Alternatively (and I think this is what you meant) if you said something like “thinks he’s Socrates” then sure.
@@andrewgray7079 In what way is it under rated? If you don't get that joke right away, the irony of your comment would be sublime...
@@jbarnes8 I meant it’s underrated because at the time I made the reply, this comment only had 3 likes. I felt like it deserved to be the top comment as I think it’s the funniest.
Wrong.
Scio me nescire.
Bart: (*How do I deal with a level of stupidity that severe with some sort of tact and dignity*) "Uuuhhh. Okay. A couple things about that, though..."
Bart was so polite lol, this guy is so stupid it almost seems like a joke. The worst part is he thinks he knows what he is doing. Wtf
Bart did crack a bit on the river about him hero calling. It’s really tough to coach someone when they know they got it right this one singular instance but don’t understand that carrying the same logic long term will hurt them.
@@tellumyortMy 12 year old nephew has autism. He found a way to do a math problem that worked. But the issue is, I knew it wouldn't work every time. It came to the right answer sometimes, but wouldn't for some problems. So I tried to teach him the right way, but he refused to listen to me when I explained it wouldn't work. He thought he got the right answer and wouldn't hear anything else. He knows I've taught Masters level math. Didn't matter. It took me giving him problems. Making him use his way and get it wrong several times before he understood he was wrong. Took hours of someone with lots of teaching experience. When you get lucky, it's hard to change bad habits.
Bart: Dude, you played this hand wrong on almost every street.
Caller: Do you think I should move up in stakes?
😳
This guy’s analysis comes down to “villain is betting so I think he’s bluffing”
Bart was really trying hard to hold his laughter in. “I’m like, a really big winner in our game.” Poor kid…
What’s crazy is he certainly could be a big winner in their game. Some people are just bad.
You think he’s not? Plenty of terrible players at Bay 101
His graph is straight up
@Yourfavoritedealer the statistics you just invented are no more true by dint of you being a dealer. You actually need to systematically record a large sample of these things to come close to a decent estimate. You are obviously not doing any of that and imo your educated guess is a bad one.
Two minutes in. “I call with AK offsuit”
A tale as old as time.
This is not 2003 at partypoker. No way you should be calling reraise allin on the river with AK on that board and previous actions and be "over 10bb winner"
“I'm losing, i'm the biggest loser at the table''
Yeah, what a surprise
Lots of contradicting logic. Going in reverse order, this is what I would have done:
River: I'd either bet $300 and hope to get a call by KQ/KT or check to induce a bluff against missed clubs. If I don't think there is much of a chance of the player bluffing, I'd prefer to make a blocking bet with the plan to fold to a raise.
Turn: I'd check call. The J is a pretty bad card as it takes away one of the hands we can value bet against (KJ), completes a straight, and, depending on the CO's opening range, makes possible two pairs (J8s and J7s)--although that's getting pretty thin when half the table is blinds. Checkraising here bloats a pot OOP with a one-pair hand that prefers to keep the pot small. Unless the opponent is particularly bad, it's going to be hard to win his stack. If the turn was a brick, checkraising would make a lot more sense and to a larger amount (around $500-550).
Flop: I'd checkraise to $210. After the opponent calls and the J hits the turn, I'd bet $350. Provided I don't get raised, I'll assume the range to be capped. On the river, I'd bet $700.
Preflop: I'd 3-bet to $130
I think he has at least a king, but I don’t think he has a king, but he does have that king at least, so even tho almost a ton beats me, I’m gonna raise 😂
Makes me think of that Danny devito meme, so I just started blastin’
To those who are having trouble understanding why this is so bad given that the guy’s read was right - the reason he was “right” is because he chose to call in on a hand he was right rather than the thousand others where he was wrong
Poker is a results based sport - in this hand he won all the money and that is the goal.
@@aebalclmao no it’s not tho. Please stop
@@aebalcno it's to make good decisions I saw a guy go crazy with a 6 bet all in pf with 72o. He got called by AA and won. He won all the $.
As for the caller everything was wrong here. Pf bad, flop $65 into $145 isn't big and his logic was built on it being a big bet. On the turn he did a small raise trying to rep a draw, who does that with a draw? On the river he was targeting KT or KQ but bet at least $150 too much to get called by those hands. Last he called off in a way under bluffed spot.
As soon as i heard "i flatted the opener from the cutoff in the straddle with AK" i was out.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hes losing all night with this play strategy? Get out must have been coolers 😂
He goes from being sure his opponent didn't have a pair of kings on the flop to trying to get value from a weaker king on the turn? I wish my range could change mid-hand like that. I would be unbeatable.
😂😂 Then it became a bluff on the river? So he thought V turned Kx into a bluff?
All this uncertainty is almost quantum like where Vs hand can chop n change instantly or be two different hands at once!!!
This bro is light years beyond GTO
“I’m a really big winner at 2-3-5” …REALLY!? With play like that? No offense, we’re all here to learn, but I would be curious to know how many hours you’ve got logged to determine that. Anything under 1,000 hours probably isn’t a very good sample
He said 200 hours, so he's really just a fish on a heater
I had a whole 6 months of an insane hourly average but I had to drive 1.5hrs so I only played once a week. I thought I was amazing. Then my local poker room opened back up. Granted, northern Ill has a LOT more money than milwaukee. But now that I play many days a week, my hrly has come back down to earth. 1000hrs has to be a Minimum to go by.
@@danielmeuler2877lol I did the same thing 2 years ago, was out of work on shoulder surgery and was playing Foxwoods 1-2 for 40+ hrs/week for about three months. I thought I was making $40/hr cause I’m the best…. I moved to 2/5 and my sun run ended and reality set in 😅
@@jonymaka There is no way a guy this bad can be winning after 200 hours after rake. I doubt he can win even in a 50 hour sample. He is just lying.
There are a lot of bad players, easy to win over there
"I'm the biggest loser at the table"
We know, caller. We know.
🤣🤣
“I’ve been a station all night, so I’m gonna hero call on a board where my opponent has almost no bluffs”
I’m not sure I could have held it together if I was Bart. Didn’t hold back on the title screen however.
Poker is alive and well. This guy renewed my faith in that.
He managed to get maximum value playing the worst he could on all streets. Good for him...
"I feel like players at this game , they fold to aggression, which is why I dont 3 bet"
Dude, then your 3 bet bluffs make so much money. A lot of people dont understand this.
So now, when you 3 bet A4s, A5s, KJs, KTs...etc....youre printing money.
If your opponents fold too much, your vluffs print money. If they call too much, your vakue makes money.
100% he definitely only 3bet Aces, Kings, and AK. People noticed and they started folding, he then responded by 3betting even tighter.
@@CabbageMule I don't get it. It's almost like players don't even try to learn. I've played against plenty of regulars at the casino and I'm constantly disturbed by their thought process when going over a hand.
@@XandoFootball Yea, it is wild to me. So much easily consumed poker training content now just watch some and take notes. My guess is it is just egos getting in the way, you can hear it all throughout this conversation. He thinks his understanding is on par with Bart's and just wants to hear himself talk. Then goes in to "All I really need to know from you is should I go up stakes or is it not worth it because I am crushing so hard.".
I play pretty low stakes and it blows me away that someone is sitting with thousands in front of them and has these types of thoughts.
I have not commented before but that caller's logic is so strange that I couldn't help myself. And then for his play to be justified is unbelievable.
"But, but....? I'm modifying my reasoning second by second to justify my bad plays..."
The active confirmation bias on display is pretty familiar...
Guy says, " Betting large n flop is weak."
I garuntee you this guy doesnt bluff here, though. Just a tight/scared player rationalizing his playstyle
Watching the agony in Barts face intensify with each passing moment is the redeeming quality of this video
The best part is the smug comment about “letting an old lady play even though she doesn’t straddle because she is so bad.” 😂😂😂. This dude is far removed from reality.
Bart coming to us from the depths of Shelob’s lair. Someone send in Gamgee he needs help.
“I decided to polarize myself” so I go b60 and leave plenty behind. Polarizing here is betting air or nuttier hands and using mostly an all in sizing… (which would’ve been easier if you sized correctly to $450-500 on the turn check raise)
pre flop aside, the no x/r on the flop is just so bad bc a lot of V's bluffs will have equity and will continue and the air ball bluffs will maybe give you one more street of value if you're lucky
Please stop playing those games and get some coaching!!! The 67 looks like a great bluff spot and if you think that guy is a rec you may need to reevaluate what constitutes a good player.
Imagine cut off face after the dude calls ak on that board after the prior actions .
67 is a good bluff if you’re playing against someone competent. I think the old “don’t bluff a calling station” adage comes into play here.
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj I agree, I dont think a rec would find that bluff unless he was a really bad agro rec. I think the old adage "If you can't spot the sucker within the first half hour, it's you." would also fit here
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj not sure whether calling station, but "Don't bluff a bad player" is absolutely spot on. :)
Poker is a terrible game. How do you literally make the exact wrong decision literally every time you get to take an action and get his entire stack?
Because the villain had the logic but his mistake was the hero would call down anything.
Villain made a big mistake trying to bluff a fish
This guys’ logic changes on each street
live poker is alive and well
Dude is just sun running his downswing incoming, he has no clear thought process
0:58 I already knew this was going to be awful.
😂😂
Props Bart having the patience for this
23:33 😂😅 the ego of a 200-hour graph! Guy made $10,000 on 2/3/5 and thinks he's a poker god comparing himself to Mike Postle.
How many hours do you think you need
@armank9927 200 hrs is only 6000 hands max. It's barely a month of work. To determine if you're a winning player, you need about 1000 hours. Around 3,000 hours or 100k hands can start to get an idea of your hourly. It's very possible to go 200-500 hours losing or break even and still be a crusher in these games. People don't understand how small of a sample a couple hundred hours really is.
"My line doesn't make any sense." You don't say. 😂 If button clicking was a person...
15:40 is the best realization that he fucked up.
I learned a lot from Bart’s breakdown of the what the guy thinks and the reality…thank you Bart these are the most informative videos…
I play very low stakes poker and it's extremely rare you see a hand played this badly at that level
I can literally see your soul leaving your body the more he talks
Any rebuttal that begins with “I mean like…” is when the audience knows the poor guy is his own worst enemy…and he said it multiple times!
The thing that jumps out to me the most about this video is that at 16:14, Bart already senses exactly where this is going. Like the first comment he made here is to predict the point of the call.
A lot of people don’t seem to understand the most basic concept of poker is simply that when your hand has an equity advantage over their range, you’re winning a percentage of however much money you can put in. So here say AK has is a 70/30% split in chance to win preflop against CO range, if you get a 3b in to 150 and guy calls, youre winning 70% of his 150 (not exactly bc of equity realization factors and things like this but that’s the whole point)
"I played it like a set!"
Bro was set mining with AK
Starts the call by saying he calls down too much, then proceeds to try to validate every call on what is normally a pretty bleak spot.
The caller used knowing the results of the hand to justify his line throughout the hand. He told Bart the story throughout the entire hand that lead to him being a hero genius otr, ignoring everything Bart said along the way...... Also, lol at the caller thinking any definite conclusions can be made from a 200hr sample size.
He said he “put him on a king” at the flop. On the river he said “I never put him on a king at all!”
Lost it when this guy was talking about how all he does is win at this level
Loved Bart’s eyeroll when bro said his win rate is In Postle territory
would love to understand why turning your top pair top kicker into a bluff on the turn (yes, it is a bluff) and then bluffcatching river would ever be good
It’s not really a bluff on the turn unless you think the guy will fold 87s to a small raise. It’s not really a value bet either though which is the problem.
I used to play at Bay, and marveled at the sizes of the stacks there. 8k, 10k, 12k and more in 2/3/5. Now I know why.
I've seen this video like 3 times and it's funnier every time. Dude doesn't want to listen to bart, he just wants to brag about this "sick call".
Bart's face is priceless and the exasperation finally gets to him with the mike postle graph comment😂😂😂
Is this a good bluff from villain on the river?
This guy seems like he had random feelings during the hand and tries to justify his terrible decisions afterward.
‘I flatted AK because i didn’t think they would have anything strong and it would be too obvious’ yea, that’s the point of 3-betting with AK, you’re happy to take the pot down preflop with the dead money out there. What he really meant is ‘I’m scared that I will play a huge pot and not flop and A or K so I played scared’
‘He’s bluff heavy here’? No, you just want to play passively because you have a good but not nutted hand. You would raise with a set here because you wouldn’t be afraid of anything.
The raising on the turn is just a classic ‘oh I know you have a hand now’ so you raise now that you’re somewhat confident he can call down with a worse hand. . . Except a J is a terrible card for you, because if you thought he was bluffing on the flop, a J brings in a number of the draws he was bluffing with, and gives outs to others.
The rest of the hand doesn’t even need to be explained for how bad it is.
It’s okay to makes mistakes, we all fuck up some hands. pretending you’re good and then arguing with Bart, a literal professional, about it is just lolcow behavior.
“But like. I mean like…”
“I like to play AK like a set when I hit it”
Does not play like a set when he hits it
“I tried to poloriz by betting big”
Only bluffs he has is AT, QT, Q9 of clubs and backdoor heart varieties- that’s 6 total bluff and half are backdoor that should fold flop to such large bet. There’s also TT and 99 but you have to convince the villian that you can x/r turn with pure bluffs like that BUT also somehow just limped in straddle pre to a CO open with TT or 99.
Also the “play it like a set” made me so mad because he said that when the 8 paired. What sets does he have? Literally only 77. He does not flat KK or JJ, and 88 just made quads. And is he ever flatting 77 on the flop to a PFR c-bet on K high board with flush and straight draw? Is he THEN X/r on tune with set of 77 when the most obiouse T9 straight draw got there?
When you trap with AK, you should play it like a set when you hit it. But make sure that you can actually creditably rep a set in the board.
This guy saw the flop and thought he couldn't possibly be beat and no possible run out could of changed his mind. He also doesn't know how to play his hand.
Hero slow playing AK is what got him paid but it makes it very difficult to navigate through the streets with no information preflop. It worked this time though so kudos to him.
It cant be the worst. I saw someone call a 3-bet jam on the river for PILES with the ace high flush on a four flush, four straight flush, paired board. Board was 7789Tssss. Villain led out river, dude raises, villain jams and dude tanks for 5 mins before calling. Villain obviously rolls over the J of clubs.
Don’t know why tf ppl call these hands in when they make absolute fuckin giga punts but happen to make a decision that works for them in that one specific moment and try to defend the action.
That was a wild ride going through his thought process. /o\
I've never played AK this bad even when I first was learning. I need to make a trip to Bay 101 apparently
Don't make fun of this guy, everybody. He's got a 200 hour sample of him making over 10 bigs and hour. He's the real deal.
So many people are so oblivious.. it's insane :'D
I’m sad we did not start this hand with a breakdown of effective stack definitions; I also really hate this phrase but that would have been the “chef’s kiss” to kicking this call off
“Maybe my logic is not very sound…” I feel bad for this caller…
"i looked at my graph and it litterally looks like Mike Postle's". I mean if this is how you play and you're not lying about your profits then the next reasonable explanation is that the graph is not the only thing you share with the CTO god.
Old school call. I remember this background.
Isn’t this an old call?
No intention of taking advice. No intention of learning anything. Just looking to brag about a long term losing call that happened to be lucky. Soon as he said he didnt want to raise pre incase he had to flip I knew we were screwed 😂
Did I hear that right did he say his sample was 200 hours? Does he not know you need about 20 times that sample size to truly know what your hourly rate is?
In low stakes live poker 4000 hours is way overkill imo. Players are terrible
It's fascinating to me, how some people can ask for advice from someone more knowledgeable than they are, and when they get that advice, they try to argue their side of it.
I see this when folks talk to car mechanics, and other occupations.
Very peculiar.
Raising on the turn is turning top pair into a bluff. And there is absolutely no reason for it.
You could be charging a semi bluff.
Then let them keep bluffing.
I think KQ would probably call.
The problem is there’s 8 combos of KQ vs 13 combos of KK, 88, 77 and T9s all of which have hero drawing dead. Not to mention KJ, 87s, AA which all have us crushed.
Even if you throw in KTs it’s too thin.
What about villain's play? When hero bet 510$ that shows big strength (2 pair or better). Makes no sense to fold when villain jams at that point. Hero showed commitment to the pot with the 350 raise and then the 510. You only have a 7s for show down. If 2 pair then fine....but only a pair of 7s! Gutsy attempt but I would have just folded to the 510 bet. You missed your flush draw. Accept it and fold against an obvious fish that is more likely to call after showing strong commitment to the pot!
What are you talking about did you not understand what was being represented by both. Flop villian is representing a set. The turn the hero is representing a straight with the check raise so by that line the villian could jam the river because he filled up. The point being it was very good bluff and a decent player would probably fold a straight let alone 1 pair.
@@eloizamora How is he representing a set? Sets are pretty rare, I think he is C betting a combo draw if I was hero.
Him c betting $64 is pretty strong but what is barreling on the turn? And what can re raise the turn and not the flop. A set and a straight make sense.
I absolutely love the villian line and shove. I think people are not truly giving the shove the respect it deserves. The straddle can’t have KK or JJ since he flat on straddle. It’s hard for him to have set of 8 or 7 since he flat on flop and also the 8 came on the river and Villian has a 7. Meaning the BB literaly only has 2 sets- and each with just 1 combo and other makes literal quads. And what’s more, he did not raise the flop on a K high board with flush and straight draw.
Villian can have literally all the boats and quads- straddle has effectively 1 boat, 7 full and that’s 1 combo.
The Hero is a fish for calling but for any thinking player, on a super underbluffed board, V raise is insanely good. Id recon it works 99% of the time in this exact spot against any other player.
@@Nosirtexactly thank you
My favorite hands are the ones where Bart disagrees with literally every decision and the caller somehow wins anyway.
Isn’t this hand from a few years ago?
What is this guys name? Where is this casino and game? Can I get in it? And how much are flights from the UK to this place?
"Im one of the biggest winner..."
After that thought process, play and explanation; cash out, my dude! Fuck me
Saying “I’m playing AK like a set here….” Then doesn’t come close to playing it like a set.
Background is back like the old days? Ready for resume pictures Bart?
When variance catches up to this guy his vocabulary is only gonna consist of “chips please” to the chip runner multiple times a day 😂
Didn't this guy call in sometime ago and there was conversation about playing his hand like a set??
I played it like a set. I did have a set!
“Even I thought I had a set! He thought I had a set! Yea baby!!!!”
so funny when the guy jammed river and you have absolutely zero doubt that we are calling that shit off
When I played at Bay and Matrix years ago, the pots were generally bigger in the capped game than in the deep-stack game where 95% of the field is only putting the $ in when it’s a cooler
That game was reasonably tough then. it’s likely much tougher (relative to callers skill level) on an average day now than caller wants to realize or admit.
Out of all the places I’ve played. Matrix has the worst1/3 players and the bike is right behind them
I don’t think he’s playing the deepstack, the straddle is bigger , pots are bigger and stacks are rarely under 5k
Booking my flight to San Jose, thanks ;)
I don’t get why some people in the live chat would think this villain would be bluff jamming AJcc OTR… he has showdown value, also blocks a lot of the hands he wants hero to have here. Bluffing 2nd pair + busted NFD by yeeting river after getting x/r OTT especially when the board pairs is torching… if he’s going to have bluffs, should be weak busted FDs (like 76cc), TT/99, 9xss/9xhh, maybe 65s (probably some random ‘sim approved’ hands like pocket 33-66 in there too, but doubt population is finding those).
This fell apart pre though, then really went off the rails when caller decided to click back x/r turn.
Bart's hair looks better now than in these older videos somehow
castor oil my dude.
Bart, watching you get stacked for 25K at Hustler Casino with AQ off UTG against Sia with AA was pretty terrible as well. Try discussing your own failures from time to time, just for the sake of variety...
Seems like I need to go play this game if this guy is a consistent winner.