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Negreanu is completely out of line. Hellmuth is clearly the absolute greatest of all time at being a whinging, moaning, fragile ego, crying man-child when he loses. No contest.
I love how Phil has stopped playing to think through his arguments while Daniel is still playing every hand while easily and accurately backing up his arguments with ease.
If Phil was truly confident deep down he was the best, he wouldn’t be bothered by what anyone else says. He obviously doesn’t and needs that affirmation from people he respects.
Exactly that’s what makes Ivey the goat because he never claimed to be the best even tho he is probably the most feared poker player to find at your table aka the GOAT
Yup, it's LBJ vs MJ all over again. If he truly believed he was the GOAT, he wouldn't need to say it. The only reason to say it is to try and convince others or put yourself in the conversation.
Phil doesn't know how to handle an opponent who doesn't think like him. He not only expects people to play a certain way, but he feels entitled to it. If you don't do what he thinks you should have done, it offends him 😂. He gets mad that you didn't let him outplay you.
Maria and Nick have an actual banger of a hand going, with Nick picking up the straight on the turn then the queen of spades on the river just upending everything for him reopening spades or A/K. And Phil won't shut up, classic Phil "Lesser players don't deserve table ettiquitte" Hellmuth.
He got it into his head that she had either A K or two spades to finish the flush. He was pretty passive that whole hand. He should have fired off another bet on the flop, just to see where Maria was at. Wright had no info. That was kind of the story of the hand. She raised pre-flop, Nick called, Nick checked the flop, she followed (no info), Nick makes a small bet on the turn, she follows with no hesitation (again, very little info or the possibility she is chasing a flush or straight), the queen comes out so Nick can now be beaten by an opponent with A K and it's a spade so if she was chasing a spade flush she just got it. Nick checks, Maria makes a bet nearly the size of the pot and Nick imagines the worst has happened. But personally if that was me, there's no way I'm folding. I'm already invested, I've got the straight, I at least need to learn if my instincts were right or not.
@@theperfectdoug yeah defnetly not worth to look closer, there also can be a bug from the hole cards. No discussion of call or not call, absolutley true. So when it was really his hand, than it looks like a bankrollmanagmentproblem and he played maybe to high, only thing what we can learn of this hand when it was his. technically defnetly call
I will never tire of watching this clip. Negreanu's comic timing, along with Hellmuth's facial expressions, makes this probably the best poker moment of all time. Definitely the funniest. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Doug did a video where he ran the EV of poker players buy ins vs winnings and it wasn't even close. To say it wasn't close is even an understatement. On a graph, Phil was literally off the chart, while the other great players were still in the bottom third. Then, Phil told him he looked through the stats, doug left a few tournaments out that he won.
Funny, I hate how people who recognize the term's overuse just have to point it out. I was just like you until I realized that even not gas lighting or not using it in a sentence is a form of gas lighting so it's better to just not call out it's use or non use...
I think Daniels obviously right. I also think Tony G has summed it up well. Tony G plays people and poker so he knows damn well whats hes talking about especially with his long history with Phil. I think without question hes good. He refuses to learn and play into others properly. Thats not a bad thing but its not good either. And being neutral in poker is technically a bad thing all in all but refusing to play into people isnt always bad if the game plan works, its just his game plan doesnt target the greats. Ivey is without a doubt the best because he never stops improving, experimenting, studying, trying, and most importantly enjoying. Mathmatically, socially, psychologically, everything. As long as Ivey can have fun i don't think he will get worse either wildly enough so i dont think phil will ever be "better" (or just better imo).
You think danny boy put him in his place? Danny boy talks shit but he does not ever win. Phil is a way better player than danny. Results matter in poker.
@@albertforletta1498 yep i wont argue that at all. If you beat me youu are a lucky idiot that doesnt haveva clue about poker. Im juat waiting for you to give me all your money.😁😁🖕🖕🖕
@@albertforletta1498he's not that wrong though, Phil is extremely annoying and arrogant and a baby, but all the people calling him a horrible player or donkey are pretty stupid
Ha. I think it was a '93, but I learned to drive in my parents' Corolla in '96. The fact it was standard was actually kinda badass at the time. At 16, I was happy for every little edge I could get, socially.
@quercusquercus532 The corolla I had was a 5 speed manual and had headlights that flipped up from under the hood when you turned them on. It was a neat car for it's time and had amazing reliability. Can't really go wrong with an old corolla.
I've been watching and playing (poorly) poker for about 20 years & Ivey has always been the guy who I'd bet on. All things being equal (if no luck was involved), I think he would win every time. He knows the math as well as most of the "math guys" and his reads might be the best ever. Plus, no one is as intimidating. He's the best. He knows it. We know it. They know it. Hellmuth knows it.
Phil has got away with berating players for too long and players need to start calling him out more cause it’s bs and it’s no longer needed to pump up poker.
Not really. helmuth is a multi millionaire and al bundy worked at a womens shoe store. Al only had one accomplishment. A single football game. Phil has won almost 20 bracelets. People hate to give Phil his props even though he deserves them. Weird that a loud mouth that lies gets so much hate in almost every aspect of sports, art and entertainment but politics it is funny.
I worked in a casino a bit off the beaten path, and Hellmuth showed up unannounced to play in our poker room one very busy night. He checked in his luggage and just walked back to it without asking for management or any other special treatment. He didn't cause one issue during the hours he played, tipped everyone, cashed out, grabbed his luggage, and then left.
Yeah he’s class i dont know why he gets so much hate. I dont even know why negreanu gets so mad even when he admits hellmuth is better than ivey in hold em. Whys negreanu get so pressed by the guy who has won the most bracelets? I dont know
Phil was an early founder and did very well. But the game changed around him and he hasn't adapted. Now he checks to the river and gets outdrawn every time.
@@billytringuyen1 That makes zero logic. Using that same logic Tom Brady wasn't as good as the `people that made more than him. Poker is also a game that needs some probability to go in your favor at one time or another especially in a tournament. Winning almost 20 WSOP tournaments means a lot. The argument is not the wins it is the time and opponents. Anyone that discounts Phil is probably a moron. It is a common internet thing to do. Highest earnings is the worst way to attempt to find who is good or not. Someone like Dan Bilzerian has more poker earnings than a lot of pros. Doesn't mean that he is great. Like a pro Boxer that picks his opponents carefully.
ESFERIANDI IS A MAD SCIENTIST, PHIL HELLMUTH IS KING OF VALCANOS, IVY IS THE ONE WHO IS KING OF ART AND NEGREANU IS THE MIND READER. THEY ALL GOT ROLLS THEY PLAY!
Bryn Kenney has 65 million in earnings. Although he is in the age of the poker boom in potential earnings, he has won the most money. Nobody considers him the GOAT. That said, all around ability to win different types of games, it is Ivey. Bracelets obviously for Phil. 17 is a lot for only excelling in one game truly.
I dont think Phil Ivy ever considers himself the GOAT, and assuming he doesnt cause if he did for a moment, he knows his game would slip. In fact, I believe Phil Ivy is, in his mind, striving to be the GOAT but never believes he could reach the zenith of the game.
Daniel is right. I'm just a random guy on the internet,but I've watched a lot of poker over the years. I've never seen hellmuth do the things that guys like Phil ivey and Daniel negreanu do at the table. Phil is a great player. But the game has evolved and Phil hasn't been able to keep up like the other guys.
@jasonlinton9902 there's definitely an argument to be made for that. If you are basing it off of bracelets won then j would have to look at how many tournaments he had played in to win his 17 vs someone like Phil ivey that has 11. Could be a situation lf quantity over quality. But regardless, Phil H is an incredible tournament player.
Phil's cautious game style will generally get you deep into tournaments, and 17 WSOP bracelets is no fluke. Cash games on the other hand, are all about playing/gambling with shitty cards and sucking out for big pots. Hellmuth is abrasive and arrogant but his WSOP results are unmatched and his solid poker approach has made him wealthy. The aggressive types ala Tom Dwan , Matasow etc. wind up broke and begging for backers.
If *Stu Ungar* wasn't a complete coke-head and if he played as much as Phil did...This conversation wouldn't even exist... During the 1990 WSOP Main Event, Ungar was found on the third day of the tournament unconscious on the floor of his hotel room from a drug overdose. *However, he had such a chip lead that* even when the dealers kept taking his blinds out every orbit, *Ungar still made the final table* and finished ninth without playing another hand, pocketing $25,050... *INSANE!!!! Just think about this...* I feel this is like saying *Wayne Gretzky* is the GOAT of hockey.... On paper he is, *BUT* imagine if *Mario Lemieux* didn't get any cancer and/or played in a team as good as the Oilers in the 80s ??? Same thing with *Larry Bird* ... He doesn't have the best NBA statistic, on paper he is not the GOAT, but like the Godfather *Pat Riley* said once: *“If I had to choose a player to take a final shot to win a game, I’d choose Jordan... But if I could pick one to shoot to save my life, I would pick Bird.”* Self proclaiming yourself the GOAT is the equivalent of a waiter asking for tip... You simply just don't do it... lol
Great analysis and analogies. I think I'd go Lemieux, too. I was a Gilmour guy in '93. Thought he might be in the running for an Art Ross, when Mario got cancer, maybe even a Hart? I had to go refresh my memory, but... - 12 straight multi-point games to open the season - 104 points in 40 games... before he realized he had cancer - 56 points in 20 games... after two months of treatment for cancer - Ended regular season with a 17 game winning streak, streak ended by a tie. I miss those. Cancer. Wtf??? I'm still confused by that Islanders upset.
There is a HUGE thing that nobody shoves down PH Mouth. The WSOP field was anywhere from 100-150 players for the entire tournament as opposed to today, Tens of thousands? Correct me if Im wrong
You are conflating the main event to every other tourney. Yes, the main event gets tens of thousands but the others usually do not. Nobody is shoving it down his throat because it is not a good argument. Daniels last wsop bracelet had around the same amount of people less than 200. Back then only the best players showed up to play in these games. Normies didn't know about the WSOP. The poker boom changed everything.
If you have to tell people you're the greatest, then you're needing validation. The greatest is based on his/hers peer group opinion. What Phil fails to realize is that he hurts receiving the validation he desires or deserves by being a "Me, Me, Me" personality.
That is called an argumentum ad populum fallacy. Poker is a bit different and have far smarter people but in other sports the peer groups still vote on popularity more than skill. The top 100 in the NFL is a good example. Anyone that writes an original comment on youtube is also seeking validation and attention. People don't do it in the hopes that nobody reads it and it is ignored. They want to be told how correct they are and get likes.
I will admit, seeing that balding leprechaun "cha cha real slow" while taunting me in a fucking Mahomes jersey, after winning on the river, I'd be beyond tilted as well.
I love how Hellmuth complains about unprofessional behaviour of other players while perpetrating the most unprofessional behaviour at the table. Last I checked having a reputation of being a Brat was not a good thing.
I love how Phil talks about people “holding over him” at 16:05 (Phil Ivey) but everyone knows without a shadow of a doubt that he doesn’t think he’s ever held over another opponent in his life. Just superior play from his end lmao😂😂. His delusion is absolutely outstanding.
Phil's ego is huge...lol. I once had a dream that I was playing in a simple cash game with Phil, I got quad Q's and he got quad A's. I started celebrating. He said "My quad Aces beat your quad Queens, dude." I said, "Yes, you won the hand of $2000, but I just won the bad beat jackpot of $125,000" The look on his face was priceless
1. Phil Hellmuth would not be the leader in WSOP bracelets if Ivey played as many events. 2. Outside the WSOP, Phil doesn't have much of a resume. 3. He's the WORST cash game player of all the "top pros." 4. Of the top 10 players between 1970 and 1990, probably only 1 would be able to crack the top 50 today (Stu Ungar). 5. The field sizes are 100 times what they were when Phil won his Main Event. You can "luck" your way through a field size of less than 100.
Do you have down syndrome? Most, if not all, of Ivey's bracelets are small field non-hold'em games. When it comes to limit/no limit hold'em Helmuth is King...there really isn't a debate to be had.
Tony G loves knowing that as long as he and Hellmuth are alive he can say say something that will piss him off even when they are continents away from each other
I have watched a lot of poker. Not good myself and never played in any casinos - I was a casino manager, that's mostly why but, I am not good. However, I do know consistent good play when I see it. Don't take my word for it, take it from people paid to watch. Negreanu is the absolute best. I have been in several surveillance rooms watching him play and, it is never surprising to hear the operators look at each other and go WTF? in amazement when Negreanu is playing.
Lots of people dont see that he does this on purpose to keep his persona alive. He gets more attention then other "better" players easily through his banter, and that translates to sponsor money
I mean the legacy speaks for itself, you type Phil Ivey in on YT and its greatness and genius, you type Phil Hellmuth it's tantrums and him losing pivotal hands.
Ivy doesn't give a crap, which says most of what needs to be said. It seems like Hellmuth has Sierra figured out how terrible he is to others and had made an effort to be more respectful, but he's not remotely close to consistent about it. I don't find him entertaining - I think poker would be better without him.
I love Phil he honestly but the thing he’s wrong about here is he basically uses his WSOP career you have so many different tournaments you have Triton WPT Poker Stars and you have the Poker Go tournaments and High Stakes you have Poker after Dark Poker night in America and Hustler casino live and Triton cash games Phil either doesn’t play in the other ones or doesn’t do good and he argues with Daniel that he’s the best Holdem player in the world based on WSOP and Phil’s also played in if not the most events he’s close in WSOP events
Phil goes for the easy braclet events that the better players dont care about. Plus his winnings in the 80s and 90s was up against just old school basic play players. The poker players today are much better.
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I find more enjoyment watching Phil Hellmuth have verbal altercations with people than him playing poker tbh.
THIS
The real Hellmuth highlight reels are the argument compilations.
Anything where Phil hellmuth gets the business is the nuts. Whether he’s losing an argument or poker hand doesn’t matter to me lol
i gotta admit. i would love to be at the same table as him. but he is quite the douche...
You and everyone else hence all the videos of just that 😂
😂😂
Maria’s massive bluff while everyone is distracted is so amazing😹😹🔥🔥🔥🔥
So are those massive botox lips.
I am surprised that Wright folded a higher straight flush
@@al7ot007 Higher straight you mean; I hope
Marias face distracted an not amazing.
@@al7ot007 Yeh he probably would fold a straight flush ! Terrible fold Nick
Negreanu is completely out of line. Hellmuth is clearly the absolute greatest of all time at being a whinging, moaning, fragile ego, crying man-child when he loses. No contest.
Narcissistic child in a grownup body.
This
You forgot Phil thinks he’s entitled.
Phil the best at bingo.😂
And that’s what he’s better at than everyone else.😂😂
You have to screw up pretty bad to turn Negreanu from a happy, fun loving guy, to a LASER BEAM of eviscerating truth.
Not really
Hes on roids these days so yeah
@@Shad0wack what? 😂
@@MrMozezoo TRT
I'd say it's just him getting older and probably doesn't love the game as much as 15 years ago
Daniel and Phil have reached the"old married couple" phase.
IMO they are, and always have been like brothers. They respect each other, but sometimes they do get into it, but never in a harmful or evil way
I love how Phil has stopped playing to think through his arguments while Daniel is still playing every hand while easily and accurately backing up his arguments with ease.
I like how easily he did it with ease so easily.
Simple, when u dont need to lie to get u point across, everything is easy 😉
In dan’s defense, ive seen him play like 8 screens of online poker at a time.
Funnily they are also very good friends off screen, they just avoid poker convo then xd
If Phil was truly confident deep down he was the best, he wouldn’t be bothered by what anyone else says. He obviously doesn’t and needs that affirmation from people he respects.
Exactly that’s what makes Ivey the goat because he never claimed to be the best even tho he is probably the most feared poker player to find at your table aka the GOAT
Ivey is getting pretty arrogant honestly, when hellmuth plays humble he's pretty good.
Yup, it's LBJ vs MJ all over again. If he truly believed he was the GOAT, he wouldn't need to say it. The only reason to say it is to try and convince others or put yourself in the conversation.
Ya know Helmuth isn't that great when a group of weekend warrior home gamers can watch him play and see just another fish.
Mr beast crushed him.
I still go back and watch him get absolutely destroyed by the loose cannons back in the day
@@oliverjordan695bad players can beat anyone. They don’t see the board. They play for luck. In the long run they would lose.
Phil doesn't know how to handle an opponent who doesn't think like him.
He not only expects people to play a certain way, but he feels entitled to it.
If you don't do what he thinks you should have done, it offends him 😂.
He gets mad that you didn't let him outplay you.
The true "Greatest of All-Time" wouldn't be the easiest guy in the world to put on complete tilt in the blink of an eye 😂
Maria and Nick have an actual banger of a hand going, with Nick picking up the straight on the turn then the queen of spades on the river just upending everything for him reopening spades or A/K. And Phil won't shut up, classic Phil "Lesser players don't deserve table ettiquitte" Hellmuth.
Are we going to talk about the fold with the straight vs Maria ho ?!
i am also not coming clear about that haha
Nick Wright isn't good enough, both at poker and his sports takes
He got it into his head that she had either A K or two spades to finish the flush. He was pretty passive that whole hand. He should have fired off another bet on the flop, just to see where Maria was at. Wright had no info. That was kind of the story of the hand. She raised pre-flop, Nick called, Nick checked the flop, she followed (no info), Nick makes a small bet on the turn, she follows with no hesitation (again, very little info or the possibility she is chasing a flush or straight), the queen comes out so Nick can now be beaten by an opponent with A K and it's a spade so if she was chasing a spade flush she just got it. Nick checks, Maria makes a bet nearly the size of the pot and Nick imagines the worst has happened.
But personally if that was me, there's no way I'm folding. I'm already invested, I've got the straight, I at least need to learn if my instincts were right or not.
@@theperfectdoug yeah defnetly not worth to look closer, there also can be a bug from the hole cards. No discussion of call or not call, absolutley true. So when it was really his hand, than it looks like a bankrollmanagmentproblem and he played maybe to high, only thing what we can learn of this hand when it was his. technically defnetly call
Its an easy fold since Phil have none on the flop but Ace high
I will never tire of watching this clip. Negreanu's comic timing, along with Hellmuth's facial expressions, makes this probably the best poker moment of all time. Definitely the funniest. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Danny boy is a jealous douche bag. He wishes he was as good as helmuth. Danny boy talks shit but he cant beat phil.
This video is possibly only second to Helmuth eating a roast beef sandwich sideways. That was incredible.
Negreanu is basically saying Hellmuth is wack in a politically correct way
If you're the only person singing praises about yourself rather than your peers, you're no GOAT.
You're going for it on this one
Haha everything I show is accurate! I like Hellmuth and the GOAT argument is a fun one.
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Doug did a video where he ran the EV of poker players buy ins vs winnings and it wasn't even close. To say it wasn't close is even an understatement. On a graph, Phil was literally off the chart, while the other great players were still in the bottom third. Then, Phil told him he looked through the stats, doug left a few tournaments out that he won.
@@johnnywithaker2658it should be low considering the ones he won. Cuz the buy ins are low. Doing the big ones you have to win way more often.
I want to see Phil vs Phil so bad now, with Daniel betting on Ivey. That would be a great show.
Phil sounding like Uncle Rico with his high school stories. 😅
He could probably throw a football over a mountain!
I hate how the word gaslighting had trended to everyone who has no idea what it means and it now means whatever the person using it wants it to mean.
Funny, I hate how people who recognize the term's overuse just have to point it out. I was just like you until I realized that even not gas lighting or not using it in a sentence is a form of gas lighting so it's better to just not call out it's use or non use...
@@dayl4151 You loooooove alt-right media.
Yeah, I felt the same when the narrator said "gaslighting."
I don't like Helmuth but that wasn't gaslighting
stop gaslighting
blame the idiotic left for that
Phil and Daniel’s rendition of DJ Khaled’s “All I Do Is Win,” is the whitest thing I’ve ever seen 🤣
Any song made by dj khaled is for white people and not the culture so its okay 😂
I think Daniels obviously right. I also think Tony G has summed it up well. Tony G plays people and poker so he knows damn well whats hes talking about especially with his long history with Phil. I think without question hes good. He refuses to learn and play into others properly. Thats not a bad thing but its not good either. And being neutral in poker is technically a bad thing all in all but refusing to play into people isnt always bad if the game plan works, its just his game plan doesnt target the greats. Ivey is without a doubt the best because he never stops improving, experimenting, studying, trying, and most importantly enjoying. Mathmatically, socially, psychologically, everything. As long as Ivey can have fun i don't think he will get worse either wildly enough so i dont think phil will ever be "better" (or just better imo).
I love how Daniel put Donkey Phil in his place
You think danny boy put him in his place? Danny boy talks shit but he does not ever win. Phil is a way better player than danny. Results matter in poker.
@@michaellane9079, We found the egocentric lover of Phil Helmuth. lol 😂
@@albertforletta1498 yep i wont argue that at all. If you beat me youu are a lucky idiot that doesnt haveva clue about poker. Im juat waiting for you to give me all your money.😁😁🖕🖕🖕
@@albertforletta1498he's not that wrong though, Phil is extremely annoying and arrogant and a baby, but all the people calling him a horrible player or donkey are pretty stupid
Jesus, it’s like a bunch of high schoolers fighting each other about who has the best 94 Toyota Corolla…
For the record, the '88 Toyota Corolla SR5 was the best Corolla.
Ha. I think it was a '93, but I learned to drive in my parents' Corolla in '96. The fact it was standard was actually kinda badass at the time. At 16, I was happy for every little edge I could get, socially.
@quercusquercus532 The corolla I had was a 5 speed manual and had headlights that flipped up from under the hood when you turned them on. It was a neat car for it's time and had amazing reliability. Can't really go wrong with an old corolla.
10:40 maria breaking poker face, hillarious
i mean its an outrageously old clip
It’s a lazy sneaky way to make money
I've been watching and playing (poorly) poker for about 20 years & Ivey has always been the guy who I'd bet on. All things being equal (if no luck was involved), I think he would win every time. He knows the math as well as most of the "math guys" and his reads might be the best ever. Plus, no one is as intimidating. He's the best. He knows it. We know it. They know it. Hellmuth knows it.
I love the fact that Nick Wright is sitting between them while it's going on. How awkward for Nick.
10:31 - When Ho lands her flush, she doesn't even need to hide her reaction because everybody is so caught up in the argument. Great win.
My way teasing Phil would be saying tony g is the best, and definitely 1 of the best snap callers. I remember high stakes poker season 1
Phil has got away with berating players for too long and players need to start calling him out more cause it’s bs and it’s no longer needed to pump up poker.
Hellmuth is like Al Bundy with his high school jersey on.
Al Bundy was awesome.
Not really. helmuth is a multi millionaire and al bundy worked at a womens shoe store. Al only had one accomplishment. A single football game. Phil has won almost 20 bracelets. People hate to give Phil his props even though he deserves them. Weird that a loud mouth that lies gets so much hate in almost every aspect of sports, art and entertainment but politics it is funny.
I worked in a casino a bit off the beaten path, and Hellmuth showed up unannounced to play in our poker room one very busy night. He checked in his luggage and just walked back to it without asking for management or any other special treatment. He didn't cause one issue during the hours he played, tipped everyone, cashed out, grabbed his luggage, and then left.
Yeah he’s class i dont know why he gets so much hate. I dont even know why negreanu gets so mad even when he admits hellmuth is better than ivey in hold em. Whys negreanu get so pressed by the guy who has won the most bracelets? I dont know
@@alextromler6407 beacause he calls himself the goat while unable to win in major. Watch the video again
Phil was an early founder and did very well. But the game changed around him and he hasn't adapted. Now he checks to the river and gets outdrawn every time.
Phil is better than most at tournaments, but apparently cash games require a bit less of a long game mentality that tournaments do.
Phil isnt better than most online pros or guys like Antonius/Ivey etc. Phil is only the best in his head as usual 😅
4:22 8,9,10,Jack, Queen wtf the machine that shuffled that has to be broken 😂😂😂
Need to calculate hardest calls/folds and overall high level plays.
You can “Calculate” until you are blue in the face, and Helmuth will still always be a “cash game 🎣 FISH”.
He's up a million and a half. He's not the best ever or even close but he's not a fish either@@albertforletta1498
As Daniel is a hustler also as Phil IVEY, he just acts he's angry to let the player in the pot, to think he's weak.
Phils the greatest at explaining why hes the greatest with minimal evidence.
Yeah only the record for wsop bracelets
Well wtf he is the one with the evidence
@@spleeeen4itcream rises to the top. If he the best, why he avoid, and always lose, the biggest cash games?
Winning a bunch of $1,000 bracelets doesn't make him anything. Hell, I have onevof the bracelets he does
But the 10k count, right?
ya bracelets ain;t nothing matter is who got the highest earning lol
@@billytringuyen1No, you can be the best but play lower stacks.
@@billytringuyen1 That makes zero logic. Using that same logic Tom Brady wasn't as good as the `people that made more than him. Poker is also a game that needs some probability to go in your favor at one time or another especially in a tournament. Winning almost 20 WSOP tournaments means a lot. The argument is not the wins it is the time and opponents. Anyone that discounts Phil is probably a moron. It is a common internet thing to do. Highest earnings is the worst way to attempt to find who is good or not. Someone like Dan Bilzerian has more poker earnings than a lot of pros. Doesn't mean that he is great. Like a pro Boxer that picks his opponents carefully.
Yap yap yap yap….just put the fries in the bag brooooo 😂😂
Poor Maria. I could feel her dying inside listening to Phil.
i love how maria just smiles and nods as she takes phil's money.
ESFERIANDI IS A MAD SCIENTIST, PHIL HELLMUTH IS KING OF VALCANOS, IVY IS THE ONE WHO IS KING OF ART AND NEGREANU IS THE MIND READER. THEY ALL GOT ROLLS THEY PLAY!
saw Phil in person once, dude is tall - cant tell from watching him sat
Who would have ever thought that Nick Wright would be the quiet one at the table? lol
First time I've seen your channel, i wasn't looking for poker content. Glad i found you, subbed. Great video
Glad you're diving into this 80 years later buddy
Glad you're watching and commenting buddy
@@AlexDuvall It would be very considerate to offer him some ice when you make a statement like that.
Can’t wait for the next episode where we cover the day that Al bundy scored 4 touchdowns in one game at Polk high
I haven't watched poker for a long time. Daniel used to be so light hearted, it's kind of odd to see him getting triggered like this.
Daniel gets a straight in the middle of dialogue, keeps going and casually throws chips in the center. 🤣
I love how this is the goat, trying to convince the one who thinks they’re the goat that the one who would never say they’re the goat is the goat
Bryn Kenney has 65 million in earnings. Although he is in the age of the poker boom in potential earnings, he has won the most money. Nobody considers him the GOAT. That said, all around ability to win different types of games, it is Ivey. Bracelets obviously for Phil. 17 is a lot for only excelling in one game truly.
I dont think Phil Ivy ever considers himself the GOAT, and assuming he doesnt cause if he did for a moment, he knows his game would slip. In fact, I believe Phil Ivy is, in his mind, striving to be the GOAT but never believes he could reach the zenith of the game.
Is that the sports guy Nick playing
Lool I think so 😂
Yep
He made a terrible fold.
Phil has to be in the convo for greatest poker personality, and that’s something to actually to be proud of in today’s age.
Thought they were gonna fight for a moment... having Buffer there to announce it and all....
Daniel is right. I'm just a random guy on the internet,but I've watched a lot of poker over the years. I've never seen hellmuth do the things that guys like Phil ivey and Daniel negreanu do at the table. Phil is a great player. But the game has evolved and Phil hasn't been able to keep up like the other guys.
But you have to admit phil is the best tourny player in the world
@jasonlinton9902 there's definitely an argument to be made for that. If you are basing it off of bracelets won then j would have to look at how many tournaments he had played in to win his 17 vs someone like Phil ivey that has 11. Could be a situation lf quantity over quality. But regardless, Phil H is an incredible tournament player.
Phil's cautious game style will generally get you deep into tournaments, and 17 WSOP bracelets is no fluke. Cash games on the other hand, are all about playing/gambling with shitty cards and sucking out for big pots.
Hellmuth is abrasive and arrogant but his WSOP results are unmatched and his solid poker approach has made him wealthy.
The aggressive types ala Tom Dwan , Matasow etc. wind up broke and begging for backers.
Ya I don’t get negreanus rage and disdain for Hellmuth. Hellmuth never claims to be better in cash games.
I don’t like how someone reposts this saying it happened one month ago, when it happened a while back. I’m getting tired of social media
If *Stu Ungar* wasn't a complete coke-head and if he played as much as Phil did...This conversation wouldn't even exist...
During the 1990 WSOP Main Event, Ungar was found on the third day of the tournament unconscious on the floor of his hotel room from a drug overdose.
*However, he had such a chip lead that* even when the dealers kept taking his blinds out every orbit, *Ungar still made the final table* and finished ninth without playing another hand, pocketing $25,050... *INSANE!!!! Just think about this...*
I feel this is like saying *Wayne Gretzky* is the GOAT of hockey....
On paper he is, *BUT* imagine if *Mario Lemieux* didn't get any cancer and/or played in a team as good as the Oilers in the 80s ???
Same thing with *Larry Bird* ... He doesn't have the best NBA statistic, on paper he is not the GOAT, but like the Godfather *Pat Riley* said once:
*“If I had to choose a player to take a final shot to win a game, I’d choose Jordan... But if I could pick one to shoot to save my life, I would pick Bird.”*
Self proclaiming yourself the GOAT is the equivalent of a waiter asking for tip... You simply just don't do it... lol
finally someone who sees my point of view on Mario Lemieux vs Gretzky I said the same stuff but Gretzky stans would always be heated !
Great analysis and analogies. I think I'd go Lemieux, too. I was a Gilmour guy in '93. Thought he might be in the running for an Art Ross, when Mario got cancer, maybe even a Hart? I had to go refresh my memory, but...
- 12 straight multi-point games to open the season
- 104 points in 40 games... before he realized he had cancer
- 56 points in 20 games... after two months of treatment for cancer
- Ended regular season with a 17 game winning streak, streak ended by a tie. I miss those.
Cancer. Wtf??? I'm still confused by that Islanders upset.
11:10 Maria thinking, yep, and what do u think i've been dealing with.
Tony G randomly throwing jabs is awesome
There is a HUGE thing that nobody shoves down PH Mouth. The WSOP field was anywhere from 100-150 players for the entire tournament as opposed to today, Tens of thousands? Correct me if Im wrong
You are conflating the main event to every other tourney. Yes, the main event gets tens of thousands but the others usually do not. Nobody is shoving it down his throat because it is not a good argument. Daniels last wsop bracelet had around the same amount of people less than 200. Back then only the best players showed up to play in these games. Normies didn't know about the WSOP. The poker boom changed everything.
I mean he could be the best SnG HU televised player of all time maybe ? Beating Polk, Dnegs, Durr and Antonio, losing to Jkoon tho
If you have to tell people you're the greatest, then you're needing validation.
The greatest is based on his/hers peer group opinion.
What Phil fails to realize is that he hurts receiving the validation he desires or deserves by being a "Me, Me, Me" personality.
That is called an argumentum ad populum fallacy. Poker is a bit different and have far smarter people but in other sports the peer groups still vote on popularity more than skill. The top 100 in the NFL is a good example. Anyone that writes an original comment on youtube is also seeking validation and attention. People don't do it in the hopes that nobody reads it and it is ignored. They want to be told how correct they are and get likes.
Top players I got 🤔 Ivey, Daniel, Tony G, Andy, Garret, Durr, Mark Newhouse, Kevin Heat then Hellmuth
What’s hilarious to me is that the self proclaimed best poker player ever doesn’t realize these guys are playing him by riling him up 😂
All I know is at 5:00 Ivy would make Helmuth look silly with dealer turning hands like that 😂
I mean, I’d think it would be easier to win a tournament with 50-200 entries over one with thousands of entries tbh.
I will admit, seeing that balding leprechaun "cha cha real slow" while taunting me in a fucking Mahomes jersey, after winning on the river, I'd be beyond tilted as well.
I love how Hellmuth complains about unprofessional behaviour of other players while perpetrating the most unprofessional behaviour at the table. Last I checked having a reputation of being a Brat was not a good thing.
I love how Phil talks about people “holding over him” at 16:05 (Phil Ivey) but everyone knows without a shadow of a doubt that he doesn’t think he’s ever held over another opponent in his life. Just superior play from his end lmao😂😂. His delusion is absolutely outstanding.
Maria acting like a whole silent assassin.
Phil's ego is huge...lol.
I once had a dream that I was playing in a simple cash game with Phil, I got quad Q's and he got quad A's.
I started celebrating.
He said "My quad Aces beat your quad Queens, dude."
I said, "Yes, you won the hand of $2000, but I just won the bad beat jackpot of $125,000"
The look on his face was priceless
Pfft. Moneymaker trounced Ivey.
i was hopin that Buffer would jump up from his chair and start yelling:
.....and in the blue corner etc LoL
Can you pls provide time and place for where this vid was taken. Thanks
It is a miracle that some player has not beaten up Hellmuth all these years.
"Imposter" music, had me cracking up
The GOAT in any competitive endeavor never proclaim themself as the GOAT.
1. Phil Hellmuth would not be the leader in WSOP bracelets if Ivey played as many events.
2. Outside the WSOP, Phil doesn't have much of a resume.
3. He's the WORST cash game player of all the "top pros."
4. Of the top 10 players between 1970 and 1990, probably only 1 would be able to crack the top 50 today (Stu Ungar).
5. The field sizes are 100 times what they were when Phil won his Main Event. You can "luck" your way through a field size of less than 100.
Do you have down syndrome?
Most, if not all, of Ivey's bracelets are small field non-hold'em games.
When it comes to limit/no limit hold'em Helmuth is King...there really isn't a debate to be had.
Tony G loves knowing that as long as he and Hellmuth are alive he can say say something that will piss him off even when they are continents away from each other
Nick Wright: 👁️👄👁️
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I have watched a lot of poker. Not good myself and never played in any casinos - I was a casino manager, that's mostly why but, I am not good. However, I do know consistent good play when I see it. Don't take my word for it, take it from people paid to watch. Negreanu is the absolute best. I have been in several surveillance rooms watching him play and, it is never surprising to hear the operators look at each other and go WTF? in amazement when Negreanu is playing.
"There is no mathematical explanation..." as to why Phil Ivey always has Hellmuth's number because Ivey is just simply BETTER
Daniel: "What are you better at than Phil Ivey? - promoting yourself" bwahahaha!!! 🤣
"There is no mathematical reason why he usually beats me."
Sure there is. He's a better player than you.
Lots of people dont see that he does this on purpose to keep his persona alive. He gets more attention then other "better" players easily through his banter, and that translates to sponsor money
is like MJ and Lebron , most of people say that MJ is the GOAT , Lebron says that he is the GOAT
After this Phil killed Daniel in a heads up style system dominated him Phil is a strong player just hot blooded
He didnt dominate anything. It was a hyper turbo.
@ three times in a row isn’t variance
Yeah Daniel got schooled. Phil got his revenge.
"You're not better at Phil Ivy"
17 bracelets means something. Don't know what but it does.
I mean the legacy speaks for itself, you type Phil Ivey in on YT and its greatness and genius, you type Phil Hellmuth it's tantrums and him losing pivotal hands.
Imagine having to argue to people that you're the best.
I wouldn't want to compare Jake Paul and Hellmuth, because Phil actually has an impressive resume, but can't help but think that they're similar.
Ivy doesn't give a crap, which says most of what needs to be said. It seems like Hellmuth has Sierra figured out how terrible he is to others and had made an effort to be more respectful, but he's not remotely close to consistent about it. I don't find him entertaining - I think poker would be better without him.
I love Phil he honestly but the thing he’s wrong about here is he basically uses his WSOP career you have so many different tournaments you have Triton WPT Poker Stars and you have the Poker Go tournaments and High Stakes you have Poker after Dark Poker night in America and Hustler casino live and Triton cash games Phil either doesn’t play in the other ones or doesn’t do good and he argues with Daniel that he’s the best Holdem player in the world based on WSOP and Phil’s also played in if not the most events he’s close in WSOP events
Phil goes for the easy braclet events that the better players dont care about. Plus his winnings in the 80s and 90s was up against just old school basic play players. The poker players today are much better.
@ not really you have more players today that’s why
Lmao Nick just casually laughing sitting in the middle of it
But dont think you can go by "who wins high rollers"
Phil is his own worst enemy. He falls into traps so easily that’s why he’s constantly trolled.