How Much Do Uber Drivers Actually Make?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- So Uber once said that their drivers can make like $90k a year. They then got an absolutely massive smackdown of a fine, so thats probably not quite true. Today we dive in, and try and figure it all out. Spoiler: ITS NOT 90k.
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the amazing thing about uber is someone sat down one day and went "what if i make a car ride company that charges less than taxi's, makes employees use and service their own car, and take a majority of the fare for simply existing"
A few weeks ago, I was driving a rowdy group home.. They couldn't figure out where they lived on the app so they had the most sober sit in front and guide me, but you know, they all pitched in. They regularly spoke Vietnamese and English together and expected answers from me, and I'd just laugh because it was hilarious. It wasn't a long ride. They passed me a tip when they got to where they wanted to be, but before I could look at it, one of them grabbed my face and gave me a full mouth kiss. The tip was $60. I ended my night on that note. And as funny as it is to retell, please, never feel the need to kiss your uber driver, we do accept cash.
Woah. Just woah.
No kissing Uber driver. Just give em the tip. Got it :)
Gross!!!!
@@jameslawrence8734 JUST the tip.
That story sounds even worse in 2020 😂. Sitting in the front and kissing you with all their germs 😂
Ok, so, you've got three drivers and one makes $1 an hour, another makes $5 and another makes $100. The median is the one right in the middle, $5 an hour but the average is $35.34
This! This gets misunderstood, exploited and abused so damn much.
I think if Simon paid Danny more than $2 a script, there would be reduction on subtle roasts at Simon.
If Simon paid me about $4, I could at least afford to go to Starbucks and have a conversation about racism.
@@DannySalter $4 gets you in the door, $40 gets you a chat about racism.
@@darthsawlex8257 and $500 gets you a drink.
@@garethbaus5471 Never have truer words been spoken.
@@DannySalter nice business blaze reference 😂
Well, they’re not uber-rich, that’s for sure.
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I drove for Uber and Lyft in the Detroit metro for 6 months. I painstakingly logged all of my miles, my fuel,my expenses, etc. I trended everything through a spreadsheet which included total rides, total miles, total money received, and averaged it all out over that six-month window. At the end of six months, I still had not broke even against the expenses incurred to operate. I did it very part-time(1day/week), but before expenses I was averaging $19/hr.
If you have the knowledge to do exactly what you stated in your comment, you most certainly can get an office job paying way better than what Uber got you. I am a statistician for a living, using uber-complex spreadsheets I personally built from scratch.
@@billyoung8118 thanks, Uber was a side gig. I have a great job in water science actually. Just ran Uber to learn the area I moved to, and get some extra cash.
I did uber for a couple years and figured that I could earn about $20/hr on a good day. If I'm stuck in rush hour, or it's a slow day, or someone sneezes on an oil rig, it's closer to $8/hr
Still better than minimum wage if the $8 per hour isn't including tips.
I've taken Uber and Lyft several times and I've asked the drivers what they think of the job. I've never heard a single one of them say a good thing.
Every one I've asked say that they do it for a couple of hours after work as extra income or late at night when they're more likely to get surge pricing. It's not a real job around here.
Dude I love my job. I make $800 a week after gas and maintenance and goodies for my riders. I do it full time, and I think that's the difference. Part time drivers don't see the return on effort.
I've had them say Lyft pays better.
Needed4Reddit they "say" that, but I had a much different experience with lyft, and actively speak against them. They need to be harassed to even pay you, and they lie about their fares to their riders, target low income areas with boost rates, and are shady in just about every aspect of their doing business. They still haven't paid me for the work I did with them, and there were fares I took with them that earned 0 because they were free rides for the rider. They are a sham company and liars.
There are a handful of markets where drivers make money, but most drivers are making less than minimum wage and don’t realize it because they do not understand their expenses!
Surge Pricing: I've seen Uber double the price of a ride making it a lot more than a taxi. I'm sure there are people who don't care but when my expected $25 ride becomes almost $50 I'll take the $30 taxi every time.
I'll be honest every time I have seen it go that high the local taxi firms were quoting 60 minutes or more too, their pricing being regulated means that waiting times skyrocket instead and typically when demand spikes for one provider it spikes for the others too as it is usually the result of a major event putting a lot of pressure on the local transport system in general.
@@seraphina985 For me it's usually being downtown on a Saturday night. Uber always surge their prices even if demand is only moderate. My taxi always arrived in 5-10 minutes. If it was closing time for the bars things might be different but I'm not usually out that late.
Simon's face while listening to Siri. Made me burst out in laughter, scaring the crap out of my cat in the process.
I spend more time watching Simon Whistler and his 8 TH-cam channels than I do at work
Me 2
Is that why your keyboard is always so sticky? 🤣
... yep.
And this is a problem.....Why😃
When I first started driving for Uber approximately 5.5 years ago I made an average of about $35 an hour, before expenses, when I quit driving 1.5 years ago I was lucky to make $15-$20 an hour on a good night before expenses! Uber no longer takes a percentage, they now pay a driver set time and mileage rates plus a possible surge multiplier that has nothing to do with what the passenger pays! I had a fare where the passenger paid $97 and I was paid $23 by Uber!
I do door dash, the order can be 60 bucks get paid 10.00 🤔
Tink Tink that’s because at door dash we aren’t paid by how much the food cost. Literally wouldn’t make sense
Similar experience, except I never made 35 regularly, only on holidays. Now the driver doesn't see but a fraction of the ride cost. Uber spends so much in lawsuits now that they're just robbing the drivers to do so.
As a ride share driver I can confirm the actual earnings are way lower.
my problem with uber is if your a driver and your rating drops too low, they ban you. which when you think about it, on the surface it sounds fine, but its something ridiculous, its not like "2 star drivers get banned" its something around the 4-4.5 star range. and the problem I have with this is that someone who just does the job, they drive you from point A to point B, doesnt excessively talk, or offer any extra commodities like water, maybe they let you pick the music or not maybe they pick, or maybe their is no water. they just do the job like they should, risks getting banned for not being incredibly charismatic and talking and being the most friendly person on the planet. they're still a perfect driver, but they're not good enough.
I prefer the quiet drivers, I don't know you, I don't want to talk to you. I HATE small talk so just leave me alone.
I rode in an Uber for the first time earlier this year in Texas. My driver talked about summers being particularly harder for him and other full time drivers because school was out, when all the teachers and college students were off for the summer and took over.
I’ve been driving for Uber & Lyft for the last two years as a full time gig. This year, I’ve averaged $23+ as my gross income, in Portland, OR. As to the expenses, the IRS tax deductions last year actually paid my car loan and all the other expenses.
Done as a job, with some finesse, and customer service I find it quite easy to make a decent living as a driver.
What kind of car do you have? What city do you live in? I tried to do something like Uber Eats in my town that has terrible roads. After I quit, the damages to my car's brakes & tires & other parts have racked up to hundreds of dollars & is in no way covered by the tips/wages I made there. I SPENT money to work as a delivery driver!
@@bluesira Sorry for the long delay, I just found your response. I really wish TH-cam made it easier to find and see comments.
In answer to your question, I live in Portland, OR and bought a Nissan Rogue that I’m still using as a Lyft/Uber vehicle, it just had its third birthday last month.
$23k/year? For a full time gig?
@@pr0xZen I guess I should have made it more clear, I was referring to my overall hourly rate for all of last year, during COVID.
An Uber driver is driving his own car which causes rapid depreciation of his vehicle plus tire, brake, and other maintenance costs.
This is not a good deal for the Uber driver.
It's actually just above minimum if you average it out after maintenance. I used to do it for a while. Never again
My last Uber driver actually rented
Unless you already own a car, then Uber is helping you afford said car. Plus, it's all a tax deductible business expense now, including maintenance, mileage and your phone+data plan.
@@petercarioscia9189 it wasn't uber but my father said that he is no longer able to list gasoline as a business experience for a business that has required a couple thousand miles of driving.
@@garethbaus5471no human in the history of ever has been able to claim gas as an experience. You claim the MILEAGE. Idk if I said gas, if so I'm dumb. You claim the mileage, which accounts for gas, wear and tear/maintenance etc. Its usually a low figure per mile, but I drive 22k miles a year jsut on my commute to work, it adds up. so either ur dad barely ubered or you're grossly underestimating his mileage
No
Simon, I am an Uber Driver in the American Midwest. In the last 12 months I moved over 2300 riders and that put me according to Uber in the upper 1/2 of 1%, for production, worldwide. This year I will have earned under $50,000, gross pay. That is about $16 per hour gross pay. My expenses come out of those numbers. I have heard people say they earned $1200 a week for three days work, but I cannot understand how that could happen. Hope this helps.
While I 'don't do uber. I think you did your math wrong, or put in a number wrong. 50k per year working 160 hours a week. Equals about 26 dollars a hour. I make just shy of 40k, and I get paid 17.20 at my normal job.
@@Hazel-the-Amazon you are wrong for two reasons. First, people often work well over 160 hours each month. Second, you have payments and overhead that is ahead of net pay. Here in STL, $16 per hour is much more realistic. I do this for a living and know what I am talking about.
ya if youre too stupid to do the math just google "16 per hour is how much per year" and then subtract expenses. definitely does not equal $50k
Danny knows his Starbucks, Simon knows his Uber.
I do.
Omg. That siri interaction.... 🤣🤣🤣 lmfao. Also this is a good one. It really puts a lot into perspective for uber as a potential job.
I drive for Uber and have to say that even after fuel I make an average of 16$/hr. Not a lot but where else can you get a job and work whenever you feel like it.
That Siri response was gold. Absolute gold. And shit.
10'30 Simon has an altercation with Siri 😂😂😂
I felt that convo with Siri. It sounds like the convos I have with Google.
Bixby doesn't understand my Baltimore accent and thinks I'm speaking another language so not even going there...
When I drove for Uber, I was paid $0.06/mile, $0.15/minute, and the minimum a ride would pay out was $2.62.
Easiest ride: Drunk college student was asleep on the bench. Woke him up, he got in... his destination was the next bar over. He spent more time getting up to get into my car than he spent getting told he's not getting in by the bouncer.
Best paid ride: A guy lived 5 minutes away, got let out of a hospital and had a voucher for a free ride. He decided he wanted to visit his friend 3 hours away. The hospital footed the bill for a $350 ish ride.
Best tip: Old lady from the airport with her rich retired friends. I think they all forgot the lady that ordered the ride tipped me... I got 4 separate tips of $80/ea.
Worst experience: A drunk girl literally shit in my car.
I stopped driving after the girl shit in it.
"The Simpsons: Road Rage" is a Simpsons taxi game, you drive characters around Springfield. I loved this as a kid
ahhh nice to meet another OG, same here !
As a professional driver, (American trucker), I can safely say that 60% of any profit made goes straight to the truck. Ya gotta take care of your money maker!
That 60 % is not profit it is expense
The average is when you add all the data together and divide by how many things there are, for example if you had the numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 as your data the average (also known as "the mean") would be 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 which equals 45 divided by 9 (the number of different bits of data you have) would be 5. The median is when you line all your data up in acending or descending order and then choose the middle option. So for example 1,1,2,3,6,7,7,7,9 the Median would be 6.
I know several UBER drivers that work in L.A. Vegas, and Dallas that generate Surcharges by going to popular locations, taking up spaces or blocking access, turing their phones off and waiting for the high surcharge rate kick in. Making just getting in the car $15 to $20 to start. I have found that I can get a cab quicker in Vegas and only for 2-6 bucks more than an UBER as long as you let the Taxi guy know you dont want to take the Freeway to the Hotel, take the tunnel and go north on a parallel road to the strip coming into a Resort on the back side.
I saw a YT video a while back that talked about how much a driver made in a day. It wasn't much. His biggest complaint is that people don't tip.
Lots of expenses go into being an uber driver that a lot don't realize. The company doesn't pay for car washes or detailing services if a drunk happens to puke in your backseat. And no hazard pay for picking up a girl from a bar where a guy just won't leave her alone. Dealing with people who want to smoke in your car... Dealing with people who try to do a drug deal... from your car. YEAHHHHHHH... Uber doesn't pay enough.
Let's not forget to mention that the US Minimum wage IS NOT a living wage... for a single adult... let alone someone supporting someone else.
I've heard from a couple of drivers that Uber charge you a hefty sum if you throw up in the car. The driver get all their cleanup fees paid.
You definitely get compensated for people puking in your car. $200-250
One of my friends did that and yeah... not cheap
Minimum wage in america is more than enough to live on for single people how about try making only 300 every 2 weeks and live on your own that's when u can complain
@@mr_byebye are you high? Minimal wage barely covers anything.
You know you’ve made it as a company when you’re featured in an episode of Business Blaze
Not gonna lie, almost spit out my coffee when this first started playing...damnit that wasn’t what I was expecting.
If I were an Uber driver, I'd drive an old Checker cab.
I'm afraid they won't let you, too old! And the fuel bill, ouch.
@@kfstreich4787 they said my 2005 car is too old lmao wtf
2 "whole" dollars a week? Mr. Simon doesn't pay Danny a living wage, thus danny...... is not living. I see no flaw in my logic.
Speaking of GTA taxi missions, there was one day I was listening to podcasts and did just that, and I would alternate how I 'delivered' them. Like one ride, it's how fast can we get there still alive, the next it's follow all the rules of the road...it was fun. Might try it in first person sometime.
My friend was an Uber driver in Seattle for a little while. He really enjoyed the work itself because he likes driving and meeting new people. But, he quit doing it because the pay ended up being around minimum wage.
I’m delivering with Uber with my bike and it’s honestly the highest hourly rate i have ever made. (keep in mind im a student getting through University) and I’m making around 35$/h CAD with basically no expenses since my legs are my gas. I’m getting paid to workout and I love it!
Video idea; The origins of French Connection UK, just to see if Danny can make Simon mess up the abbreviation
I drove Lyft for a few months last year. At first it felt lucrative and easy. Same as with uber there are peak times where you can make more money and you get a "bonus" if someone pukes in your car because you can't drive again until that's cleaned up. The money you make doesn't take into account what you spend on gas and the mileage you are quickly racking up on your car. Where I live I usually was able to average 2-3 passengers per hour if I was lucky. I was bringing in between $10 and $20 per hour before figuring my expenses. Not worth my time so I quit.
Simon did not even mention one of the biggest Uber screw-u's: People who buy a car to drive for Uber only to see their wages go down and down and down, or, even worse, get falsely deactivated because a rider wanted a free ride so they texted Uber a false complaint against the driver.
I used to be an uber driver. Definitely not worth it. My net /hr was about 10
I have always felt like Uber is more like GTA now. Pick someone up, murder them, rob them, and repeat.
Wait a minute
Yeh but IRL you get some riders who are like, "Let me out here. Your car smells like petrol and your smoking"
Well sign me up
@@fender8421 lol :-)
New Vlog Style Channel: Simon drives an Uber.
I doubt he has the time after his seven TH-cam channel.
a clown while reading a top 10 list...
@@TiggerLovesYou yes!
He actually had a vlog channel.
YAS‼️‼️‼️‼️
I love how Siri always fails
I drove for Uber when I lived in TN. When I moved to AL, I had to change insurance companies and I found out that many insurance companies will not cover you if you drive for a ride share service. I never told my old insurance company, because I never thought that it could be an issue. This is in addition to the pay concerns that you have listed (you only get paid when there are people wanting a ride), the pin not being in the right location to pick-up a rider, safety concerns, drunk customers making a mess in your car, etc. Uber is a good deal for the rider, not so much for the driver.
Two Simon's videos in 15 minutes,new record?
No surprise given how many channels he has.
Nah just an average Wednesday lol
@@jeremymizer8958 Yeah, sounds pretty normal :D
Another awesome episode! You guys really are killing it! Tell Danny fantastic job on writing these episodes. The way you two play off of each other is really entertaining!
In my part of the US, taxi service was horrible (North Carolina). When Uber showed up, catching a taxi was simplified.Then Lyft showed up as well. Many drivers are both Lyft and Uber drivers.
Well, in my experience as a driver, I make about half of what a rider pays for an X ride. Uber tends to take between 40% & 60% of each ride, and it seems lately to be closer to the 60% mark.
We demand that Simon becomes an Uber driver and record Business Blaze while driving.
I love that you went to business school; make a business show; have someone else write the show: and he doesnt know how to do statistics. Average = mean. The median means the person ranked right in the middle. So 1-100-1000. Median is 100. Average is 1101/3
If you drive rideshare in a major city, there will be several times when you end up being a runner for a drug dealer. You will pick him up, he will make several stops along the way, and you will eventually take him back to where you picked him.
Me with the calculator, s***'s not adding up
I was in Chicago on vacation, I went downtown on Friday from my Airbnb in the morning for less $10, by the time I had gotten done sightseeing and decided to go home around 4pm the same trip had gone from less than $10 to between $70 and $80. I got over my fear and rode the subway back for just a couple of dollars
David Long do you mean the L? I didn’t know the Metra went underground.
@@sagwafare for some people subway is a catch all phrase referring to all trains.
I make $20-30 an hour. But take that with a grain of a salt. I have to work the busy hours so I find myself working 6-10 am weekdays and 8pm-3am on weekends and "brunch" hours on Sundays. I can sometimes have no rides for an hour, but then I will have so many that it averages out to what I expect. I work until I make $150 a day minimum though I can make $300 a day on a busy day, $400 on a holiday. I spend $20-40 in gas a day. I shoot for $1000 a week on earnings and bring in $800 a week in profit. I am a full time uber driver and have been for 3 years.
I keep hearing "daddy" when he says "Danny"
I missed this episode when it was first released and it just came up as recommended. I feel like I've travelled back in time, Simon's beard is like one third its current length.
Simon. 3 types of averages:
Median: in the middle, e.g. The median of the numbers 1, 5, and 49 is 5 because it's in the middle.
Mode: most popular, e.g. the mode of 1, 5, 5, 7, 7, 7, 50 is 7 because it is most popular.
Mean: share it out or "don't be mean" as my math teacher told me, e.g. the mean of 3, 6, 82, 7, 25 is 24.6 because 3+6+82+7+25=123 then divide this by the number of numbers you have, in this example there are 5. So 123÷5 is 24.6. Hope this helps.
Ps I love your work.
Upstate NY uber driver that works it as a side hustle 1-2 times for week, about 6 hours in total, I clear about 24dollars per hour moving drinks around. Not a bad gig and when they get sick in your car it's a flat $150 fee that you get 100 percent of.
I had so many Taxis just not show up when booked, wouldn't answer the phone when I called to find when they were coming or asked me to get out when they found out when I was going. Finally having a reliable service to just get to the airport was a revelation. Not having to have up to $100 in cash for a cab handy in my pocket was also fabulous (or being told they could take me to an ATM as their CC reader was "broken". Taxis had a chance to be good, or even mediocre, and they failed. Not saying Uber is the best, I don't use them anymore either (Lyft is good in my city), but they have made the experience a whole lot better for most of us.
One problem is that surge prices are occasionally abused by drivers. Some drivers will group together and all go offline until the surge price goes into effect. There was an investigative article about it, I'll link it if I can find it.
in the U.S. customers are expected to tip delivery drivers, waiters, and taxi drivers, but those are the only industries where tips are normal.
Also, Uber requires your car to be less than 10 years old, so the people who could actually use that extra income get brushed off in favor of middle-class workers who can afford a $20k car. Lyft is even worse, and requires your car to be less than 5 years old.
Minimum wage in the U.S. as of right now is $7.25 an hour, but a livable wage, even here in Texas where property is super cheap, is $15 an hour.
Still loving the BB content. Long time fan from toptenz, TIFO, etc. but I do particularly enjoy these less... Formal presentations. Interesting, informative, and very enjoyable.
Anyway, thanks for all the awesome content, and I hope you can keep it up; hopefully without any ill effects, I love the videos, but you guys really crank them out at an insane rate lol. Especially given the variety of topics and the quality of each video.
Anyway, cheers 🍻
Thanks :)
Used to like to play 50/50 taxi in GTA. Basically pick up a person, flip a coin in real life, if it's heads you drive the person to their destination and if it's tails you drive them somewhere in the middle of nowhere and kill them.
I recently had an uber driver take me and a mate 140kms at 1am. Cost half the price of a taxi, and the service is so much better in every aspect. Needless to say, we had plenty of time to talk. It was his main income but like most low pay jobs it's only just enough to get by (and I've never heard anything different in Australia). When he dropped us it occurred to me that the driver was now almost 2 hours away from the city, about 3 hours from home, and not likely to get any passengers driving through small towns at 3-4am. Made sure the tip (which I gave in cash and not through the app) was more than enough to cover his petrol for the return trip.
I've only used them once. My wife was supposed to pick me up from work but a blizzard happened and she refused to drive and sent me an Uber. After two drivers not showing up the third time was a charm an hour and a half later. I opened the front door cause the car wasn't exactly luxurious if you catch my drift. He was fine with it and we had a lot of banter. I asked how much he was gonna make for the trip which for him was gonna total like a fifty mile drive in blizzard conditions. He said fifteen to twenty dollars. I had no cash on me because I didn't for see the inconvenience. Needless to say, I tipped the hell out of him through the app and never used the service again as I find Uber to be parasites. Not to mention the effect they have on the cab industry who have to be licensed, registered and pay fees. But they still manage to pay people living wages. The shame. All as I can say is that lobbyism sucks.
I agree with you 💯. Taxi's also accept cash. I don't want to use credit or debit cards. So taxi's are my preferred method of transportation, if I can't drive for some reason. Uber won't accept cash. Which should be "ILLEGAL" (much like the Uber industry for reasons that you mentioned..) because cash is SUPPOSED to be an acceptable form of payment. I also don't have to worry about my cab driver being a psychopathic killer/rapist like I may have to worry about with an Uber.
I'm a truck driver, & I train new drivers. I have trained several new drivers who did uber & lift before becoming truck drivers. One of them drove for uber & Lyft in Austin Texas, he only worked Thursday, Friday, & Saturday night because it is a higher rate those nights because they are popular bar/ club nights. He said he generally worked about 36 hrs a week (3 12hr shifts) & he said he generally made 700 - 1200 $ a week only working those higher rate hrs. So he made between $18-$30 an hr minus fuel & maintance he said over the course of a year he ended up after fuel & maintance averaging $19.50 an hr. I think the only problem with your video is that most successful uber drivers do uber/ uber eats & Lyft or door dash all at the same time. All of the drivers I talked to did at minimum uber & Lyft & most also did 1 of the delivery services to, that way if their were no uber fares in their area they could find a fare on another platform. So a uber driver may average $10 a hr on uber but at the the same time they average $6 or $7 a hr on Lyft an another 2.50 on a delivery app so they are never sitting without a fare or having to drive home empty miles without getting paid. I read a pretty interesting article recently that was talking about how successful drivers using this method of working for multiple services were actually pretty successful & regularly averaging north of $20 an hr after fuel cost. So in areas with a $8.25 or 9.25 an hr minimum wage a lot of them are doubling minimum wage, which I think is great for un-skilled labour, especially with such flexible hrs. so this video only looking at what they made from uber is probably a Little flawed, because your not including the income they made from other services during those same hrs.
Anyway I love business blaze it is quickly becoming my favourite channel of yours that I know of lol, I feel like I Am subscribed to at least half of your channels so I guess that's around 33 or so now lol!
In the UK there are two types of ‘taxi’; public hire, and private hire.
Public hire are taxis you can flag down in the street and do not need advanced booking. Examples are; London black cabs and NYC yellow taxis. Their fares have a minimum fee as soon as you get in the vehicle, then are calculated based on both distance and duration. In the UK the per minute per mile rates these cabs can charge is set by local councils.
Private hire taxis can’t be hailed in the street and must be booked in advance. How far in advance (10 weeks, 10 mins, 10 secs) is irrelevant. Before the rise of Uber and smartphones, you’d book by phone or by walking into a Taxi office. In 2019 any respectable taxi firm now has an app. The fare structure for private hire is based solely on distance, and has first / subsequent mile rates. Minimum fee is the first mile rate. These rates are set by the companies themselves.
Uber bridge the two, they operate like a private hire taxi company (though they strenuously deny this), but use a public hire fare structure.
Depending on where you live in the UK, Uber may be significantly more expansive than private hire,even before taking surge pricing into consideration.
In the US, the traditional taxi is mostly falls into the public hire, including having rates set by the local taxi commission, which also limits the number of licenses granted. But unless you are at the airport or a few other tourist locations; they are unlikely to stop unless booked in advance.
Several friends and I drove for Uber until we crunched the numbers and found that after inevitable car maintenance and gas... you are pretty much always getting screwed in the long run. The need for quick cash typically blinds you from the reality of sustainability. You won’t make enough to buy a new car.
I don't know about Uber X but I can tell you about UberEATS.
$650~$925 a week, Untaxed,on a bike.
You need to file your tax, and calculate your assets. Car mode and Bike mode get the same frequency of deliveries. But Cars go faster, yet also have insurance, gas and repair.
(I suggest work 6 hours, 5 days, on a bike for this. You may make more # dollars as a car, bit the expenses even it out and evem dip below bikes)
My last year living in London I was only there for 9 days a month. So i gave up my flat and stayed in a hostel. It cost about 1/4 the cost, I worked and lived in zone 1, the hostel was also zone 1. While I was there I gave every new resident my Uber link. £5 off your first journey, £5 off my next... I still have £200 in my Uber account
$9.73 in Seattle is quite a bit under our minimum wage which is $15 an hour!
Didn't he say 19?
He said a more accurate figure after deductions was $9.63.
Sure, but if you are a delivery driver for Pizza Hut, Jimmy John's etc, you are also using your own vehicle, and when you subtract the share of vehicle maintenance, you'll also be below Seattle's minimum wage.
In Detroit: Uber and Lyft took over the market from Taxi cabs. Because before Uber came on the scene, some Taxi cabs wouldn't even stop for some people. The last time I took a cab, the driver wanted $10 before he started driving and the meter started at $2.50.
Even driving for a Taxicab company was a RIP off, I once tried to drive a cab. They wanted me to least the cab for $70 a day, I would pay for all gas, and I wouldn't be allowed to pick up at the airport.
I drove for Uber for a bit. I did Uber Black at first, but got 0 Black calls. Changed cars and did X. The customers were mostly cool. The problems are:
- you really need to work the odd hours shift in order to make any money. In other words, your working while your friends are out partying. Fun or money: choose 1.
- The high demand times are rush hour times. You're only going to get 1 or 2 high demand fares because it takes you so long in traffic.
- You're not paid for the return trip unless you get a fare. People travel in certain directions at certain times. For example, 5-6pm people are normally heading from work to home but very few are leaving home at this time. So, after dropping off a fare at home you have to drive back to the business area for the next.
I eventually moved on because the job didn't fit for me. It can be great if you don't mind split shifts. (7-8am rush hour, 5-6pm rush hour, 2am drunk hauling)
Anyone who's ever used their own vehicle for delivery/passengers will likely agree that the pay is not what the company wants you to believe- unless you happen to live in a very busy and crowded locale. My husband drove for a living for a while and the insurance on the car was way too expensive (because he was using it for work), so even when he had "good" nights, it was hardly worth it.
I always ask how much they make. Im a truck driver, i go all over the country. And the most often answer i get is 800$ to 1000$ a week. Which is about the same i make as a truck driver, give or take, so $41,000 to $52,000 a year. But, that's full time drivers (it's their only job).
I've talked to many UBER and LYFT drivers, the average amount pf pay from both equals out to basically 50 cents per mile and if you put in 12 hours, about $150 - $250 per day depending on drive lengths and tips.
Only problem in the US, you have to have an additional type of insurance. If you don't have it and get into an accident your insurance company will not pay out for the accident and you have to pay out of pocket for all of the damages.
I drive part time for Lyft, one of Uber's competitors in the San Jose bay area. I average around $10/hr on a 'good' day. That is less than the local $11.25 minimum wage.
The only way it is financially viable is if I take the per-mile discount on my taxes, which I do.
Only 2$ per script?!!? #justicefordanny
Uber: We are not a taxi service. So we do not need to be subject to all the costly local laws that taxi companies are forced to abide by.
Passenger: I need you to drive me to my destination. Here's the fare for doing so.
In the USA uber drivers are considered independent contractors as well which means self employment tax. That is around 25%. So now their take home is closer to $6.50 per hour.
I drive. I do average $20/hr before expenses. But it’s a strategy game. If you get a good driver, PLEASE TIP.
Even at best case scenario, there are a lot of costs and risks.
Thanks for covering this!
I would like to do ride-sharing on the side, but I have yet to own a car that would actually qualify as a "safe" uber car. Apparently if it doesn't have any fancy safety features like cameras or blind spot monitors, it's "not safe." Also, if your car needs new shocks because there is a slight rattling noise, then they certainly won't allow you to drive for them.
I know this video is pretty old, but I remember just a couple months ago, there was a an active shooter in Seattle in a highly populated area. People were scared witless, and apparently a lot of them attempted to use Uber to get as far away from the scene as quickly as possible. So many, in fact, that their surge pricing skyrocketed the price in the area well beyond reason. I don't remember the exact figure ranges people were charged, though. But anyway, Uber got in pretty big trouble for more or less grifting customers who were trying to get away from an active shooter.
The problem with Uber is you have to have a smart phone. I only have a simple flip phone and cab companies don't return calls in the middle of the night.
here in Springfield Missouri the Uber drivers try to have as many $200 or $250 days as possible and then do not work for the rest of the week. There are several colleges here and a small airport. The taxis are not owned by the driver so they are not as well kept the taxis can take an enormously long time to get to you however they are indeed sometimes cheaper. I have been very happy with the Uber drivers here and you are very likely to wind up with a retired policeman as the driver. During peak times such as College reunions or New Year's Eve and big football games that cost can be prohibitive but you just have to plan around those things.
I love these videos because they show that Simon can be a dork and is not always perfectly posh and polished. 😂 You're awesome, Simon! Thanks for all the education you've given me over the past year or so I've been listening to your channels.
When I was touristing is Seattle I kept having people tell me how cheap Uber is and tell me prices that were way higher than taxis... cause taxis can't surge price. Or have a set price from airport to downtown. And they are licensed.
I used to take uber to and from work every day and would always try to ask the driver how they like it (if we were already chatting) and the overwhelming, resounding response was "yeah, it's pretty good" or some variation of that.
The taxi missions were always my go to whenever I got bored in GTA
That "fuck you siri" had me crying xDDDD
I drove for Uber Houston and nearly ended up homeless. My case was a little unique though as I was part of a partnership they had with Enterprise Rent-A-Car. You don't have much choice in the car, just a few low end base models. So I was in a cheap market, on Uber X, paying $300 a week to drive a Chevrolet Cruze.
I work for Lyft full time and almost always make over $20/hr, sometimes up to $30-$40. After gas and vehicle expenses, still close to $20 an hour.
As a side gig and surge, I could understand drivers. But minimum wages exist to keep people from selling their labor too cheap because poor people are bad at economics.
"90k? Thats an insane living"
Depends on your area, in Portland OR 90k is lower-middle class for a family
Expensive area. I read a thing on Quora where someone was explaning how they felt pretty middle class on 350k a year. I think it was in San Fransico or close by.
I think I live in one of the few areas where taxi is still more common then Uber there’s only about three different driver so it’s really easy to get to know them personally and there’s only about one or two people who do Uber so most of the time you’re not even likely to see that a car is available. And also a taxi is about eight dollars one-way here for most things
At least in Chicago, Ubers often cost more than Taxis and the drivers of the taxis are usually a lot better, for example, the can navigate the double decker roads without GPS which often stymies Uber drivers.
We must fight for Danny's rights lol !! Unionize !!