Starbucks "Race Together" - A Social Media 'Misstep'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Okay, so a few years back Starbucks through it would be a great idea to ask people who were getting coffee how racist they were. It was weird. This is that story. It's pretty f-ing cringe.
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I love that Danny trolls Simon because he knows Simon won't be reading this until the camera is running.
There are two things I would like to suggest to use Simon the first is the accepted usage of BCE and CE have replaced no longer are the designations of BC and AD acceptable historically. Then I must correct your Italian on Leonardo DaVinci and the Medici in Italian a c followed by an i is pronounced see and not see. Everytime I hear that Italian mispronunciation it simply grates on my nerves. Please correct these two things and I will be a very happy camper. Most sincerely, Stephen Valentino
Stephen that has no relation to the video, fuck off.
I know it's just Danny trolling Simon, but let's be realistic......I could totally see Simon ordering & drinking a Frapaccino with cookie crumble.....and his dark and rich flavored Espresso. ;)
@@stephenvalentino7497 are so saying it's Med-EE-see rather than Med-EE-chee or the other way? You accidentally wrote "see not see". I'm pretty sure I've heard him pronounce it both ways. I notice that his use of AD/BC and CE/BCE has a lot to do with the author of the article. Some channels he does it one way and other channels he does the other.
it is Chee
I would ask them the racial breakdown of their board members 🤔
Probably 8 pale Jews and 1 or 2 token persons of color.
@Scorched Earth Your user name matches your comment. 😂
16/19, or 84% white. They mentioned it in the video.
Isn't Kenny G a board member?
We need more women concentration camp guards.
I (white dude) remember being asked this as I handed the drink to my Ethiopian girlfriend. She told the barista, "About 25 minutes ago, after we woke up."
Legendary.
Apologies but I don't get it?
I don't get it either!
@Scorched Earth ah got it!
These questions seem so racist. I mean, when I hang out with someone of a different race, I don't make a mental note of it. Does Starbucks think people are so concerned about race that it sticks out when they meet someone of a different race? When trying to answer these questions in my head, it took me a solid 2 minutes to remember that one of my best friends is Asian. I just think about his race so little that I don't even notice it.
@@jbird4478 Sounds more like something by someone who has never been discriminated against because of their race. You can't just turn a blind eye to 400 years of racism and expect it to magically disappear.
@@LincolnRonYou left several zeros off that number. Throughout recorded history, racism has been the norm.
The past few hundred years is the first time that population has been a melting pot instead of a majority and a few minority ethnicities, but both Jews and Romani could tell you about longer racist problems than just 400 years.
@@jbird4478 That may have been Morgan Freeman (among others). We end racism when we forget that it is a category.
@@jbird4478 th-cam.com/video/5qArvBdHkJA/w-d-xo.html
What? You mean you don't note down exactly when and where your child played with another child of different ethnicity? That's preposterous!
Starbucks: I see you drink your coffee black..
Customer: ...yes I like my coffee with out cream.
Starbuck's: so do you like your friends with cream or do you like them black too.
Customer: .......
Officer: do you understand you are under arrest for punching a barista?
Your comment reminded me of this scene:
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@@Pining_for_the_fjords Let me guess without watching the clip; it's from Airplane
@@jonnunn4196 I see you have good taste in films.
BBC, Big Black Coffee
The lululemon thing made me spit my coffee, my Starbucks coffee
Apparently I'm pretty out of touch with women fashion. Or mens fashion for that matter.
You know you're going to have to do a video on them now. Just admit it already.
@@brainblaze6526 American media (News, talk shows, morning shows, etc.) talked about them a LOT for over a year. Anytime you can have an excuse to show women in tight pants, swimwear, or lingerie American media is going to show it as often as possible.
To be fair, I'm American and didn't know what "luluemons" were either until they were described and then realized it was just one of the brand name of leggings that have been popular here since around the great recession.
@@brainblaze6526 Actually it would be interesting to see a Business Blaze video about Lululemon. It's a notoriously horrendous Multi-level Marketing racket (pyramid scheme.)
Massive introvert. I can't remember the last time I was in anyone's home other than my own, any time I ate a meal with another person. Lol. I'm apparently a massive racist because I don't interact with anyone
Same. Introverts!! Yay!
I don't care what race, religion, whatever, anybody is. I get enough of all people equally within an hour or less. Just going to work is an effort because 'people' are there. TgT
@@tomgcooktown5019 I'm lucky. I work nights so there are fewer people. But honestly they are as many as I can handle, regardless of race, religion, etc lol.
@@faeoori Fellow introvert here. I have two really good friends. It took me a few minutes to remember that one of them is Japanese. (As if I ever sit around thinking about their race! 😄) I'm just glad I have _two friends._
Seems like you are a bit racist. I feel you. The human race can be quite annoying ;)
Encouraging employees to bring up race relations to people who literally have not yet had their morning coffee feels like an OSHA violation. Whatever the chances that it would get an employee punched, there are enough employees that if they did this nationwide there would definitely be some black eyes.
Jesus, this is truly the cringiest thing I've seen in months. Yikes, how could this possibly have gotten past the desk of the CEO without a single exec hitting the brakes? Must be a culture of yes men at Starbucks corporate.
DUDE, I know. my original title was “Starbucks Cringiest Moment Ever”.. But I wanted the video to have wider appeal ;D
I remember well when this kicked off. The CEO and board were well aware. So out of touch. They're leftist idiocy is a reason i avoid them.
@Henryk Gödel a "yes man" is an adage, a figure of speech. Arbitrarily adding to the phrase to appeal to your ideology is nonsense.
But in this case, it was the ACTUAL CEO who dreamt up this catastrophe
@@tigercap100 Believe me, as a "leftist" myself, there was never anything ok about this campaign. It was so far into stupid it transcended left vs right entirely.
I feel bad for the Starbucks employees instructed to ask those questions. They don’t get paid enough to do have to do that. As if their job isn’t tough enough.
Give me a break, they serve coffee.
Sphinx and deal with assholes like you.
Nicholas Lewis 👏🏼
Luckily my manager told us we didn’t have to. I’m black but our main customer base is white. I didn’t get paid enough to be doing all that. No thanks.
Scorched Earth 👍🏼
*Barista:* "How many of your Facebook friends are of a different race...?"
*Me:* "None - they're all human. Why - what are you implying...?"
*Barista:* "No - I mean, how many of your friends are of a different skin colour...?"
*Me:* "I don't know - I can't say I actively think about my friends as slices of an ethnic pie-chart. And frankly, I'm rather offended by your implication that I should. Good day, sir."
*Barista:* "But--"
*Me:* "I SAID GOOD DAY!"
_(storms off, returns after 30 seconds of awkward silence)_
*Me:* "Ummm... where's the sugar?"
_(Barista points)_
*Me:* "Thanks. And GOOD DAY!"
why do have this creeping suspicions that "Danny" is Simon's imaginary friend. (people who have never seen danny)
Waiting for the day that Simon starts refering to his pinkie finger as "Danny" during a video about Red Rum.
Can't be true. I'm not talented enough to do the writing myself ;)
ROFL Gazj354 I was about to make a similar joke about The Shining.
no he replied on a recent business place video. He swears he`s a real person ;) . Simon wouldn`t have time to write all that stuff he has to record videos for a billion different channels
@Drew Taylor 😂Vera was real tough. The marriage lasted bc she never got to see Norm anyways, so she started to wonder if he's real.
Barista: "How many of your friends are of a different race?"
Me: "None"
Barista: "So, you only have white friends?!"
Me, crying: "I have no friends."
Hell, I’m not even on social media. I would have to say 0%
"Last time i checked they were all human." would be mine
I think Danny writes the stories at a Starbucks. That is how he knows the menu so well.
I did once consider writing a few scripts at my local Starbucks, but I ended up getting stuck in a queue at the counter for 45 minutes.
It turns out that everyone at the front was having a discussion about race.
I'm going to carry a clicker around me so I can count my multi racial interactions
If asked, I’d say, “Well, I’m Italian and my wife’s a different race. She’s Irish.”
But somehow, I don’t think that’s what they mean.
Probably not, but among some in younger Y and Z, it might if you were instead from Spain.
Nationality is not the same as race.
John Claybaugh good lord
It was a joke
Or sarcasm if you prefer
@@johnclaybaugh9536 Tell that to some Know Nothing in the 19th century and let me know how that goes.
Anyway your last name, Claybaugh shows you're of superior Anglo-Saxon stock and are not one of those people from the swarthy races. We Native Americans need to stick together and stop these folks who worship Mary above God.
Apparently Simon needs to do an episode on Lulu Lemon. He'll love the part about where the company came up with their name.
This has got to be my favorite Simon Channel.
How many does he have?
@@caulkins69 uhhhh....at least four, that I can name, off the top of my head, right now. Business Blaze, Geographics, Biographics, Today I Found Out, Top Tenz...I'm sure I could come up with another...
@@jordaneggerman4734 I've also seen him on one called Visual Politik.
So after all those meetings that is how Starbucks decided approach that issue I wonder what were the ideas that got rejected
There was the policy to not use black and brown third world slave labor but that wasn’t sufficiently profitable for them
Simon, I need to know who does the editing and inserts the hilarious quick snark pictures. They have me rolling and paying even closer attention so I don't miss them. 😂
That's Sam, the editor. He's hilarious.
This is by far my favourite channel that Simon hosts! I love how he cracks jokes and tells personal stories that are relevant to the story at hand, I love how he goes off script and I love that Danny has been writing funnier scripts for this channel. Thank you for the great content guys! 💗
Meanwhile, I was one o the few people who first read #RaceToGetHer and thought about a serial killer chasing a girl in the woods.
On an unrelated note, here's my topic suggestion: How the gaming industry surpassed the movie industry in revenue sounds like an interesting idea :)
The answer to gaming revenue taking over movie industry revenue is... DRUM ROLL PLEASE.. loot boxes.. Its loot boxes
@@danielsayers4994 halo 2 outsold Spiderman 2
At 2:58. WHO BRINGS A 48" MONITOR TO STARBUCKS?!?
Hahha, yeah. I saw a pic of a guy on a train with a full on TV on the seats opposite him, playing some games.
The coffeeshop I'm sitting in right now, (not Starbucks) has 2 customers that come in regularly, and they bring in huge monitors (like 32" or bigger)
@@doylesinclair4499 weird.
Only a 48 inch screen? Peasent.
Chads
Simon trying to read Lululemon made my day... 😂
as much as I enjoy your delivery style on your other channels, my girl and I love the casual "Starbucks f@cked up" style of Business Blaze, so great to see you as the person you are as opposed to the pro, buttoned down proper English gent of the other channels(which I thoroughly enjoy), thanks for the refreshing style Simon, cheers
Glad you like it :) :)
I honestly can't remember the last time I had any meal that wasn't either with just my immediate family, or by myself at work.
That was about the time I realized I was paying too much for their damn coffee. And I broke my Starbucks habit almost completely. Now I may go into a Starbucks about five times a year. To sign contracts.
Oh and I'm the only white person in my family. This was none of their damn business.
It's weird how often you "are there" before Danny. What if there is no Danny? What if you have the multiple personality and Danny is really you?
"Oh, come on Starbucks! You could at least try!"
It's true.
I actually thought of a half decent question: what the hell is up with time shares? I hear advertisement after advertisement about how to GET OUT of time shares but never any selling time shares. I know what they are (and they sound like very poor investments) but what in God's name is going on here?
(We covered this topic in business school so I actually know some of the details but I feel like it could make a good video)
We (Husband & I) have received calls offering low-cost or free vacations in exchange for sitting in on time share sales pitches. We have not done them. I remember in the before time, when the internet wasn't available on your wristwatch, seeing commercials for timeshares on cable. I wonder if there's just like oodles of boomers stuck with them since the 90s.
@@jbird4478 I'm basically an elderly person (aka I listen to talk radio ((the local stuff, not Rush or whatever)) like an old person) and spent a good deal of time helping take care of my great great aunt (she just past last year at 97) but somehow I've only ever seen the "how to get out" end of things in my area at least. But as you mentioned, they arent looking for late 20 somethings so it's totally possible I've missed it.
Howard Schultz everyone-the man who would be president
😂
He dropped out of the 2020 Presidential race. Thankfully.
@@warriorwhacko
Evidence that money is not everything in American politics. Ideals are still important, thankfully!
@@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou That and material conditions.
Was the “Race Together” before or after a Starbucks called the cops on a black man who had the NERVE to use the washroom?
They called the cops on a man who refused to pay for a coffee and then refused to leave the shop after being asked to by managment. The man happened to be black. It was about the manager being a greedy asshole, not about being a racist.
I love it when massive corporations get into social justice signaling..it always goes badly.
The real reason behind this madness is super simple, and even more embarassing than anything that was talked about it: it just shows the complete disconnect a rich CEO and whatnot have with their costumers. These people live in such an opaque bubble these days that what goes on in a common citizen's head makes absolutely no sense to them. You can see this in action when you hear people like Zuckerberg and others talk. There are exceptions of course, but you bet that there are some people in this world who have absolutely never experienced anything close to a "commoner's" everyday life to the point he or she might as well be an alien lifeform instead, it'd make no difference.
Starbucks went from this campaign to calling the police on black patrons minding their business 🤦♀️
Can you do a video on the Teapot Dome Scandal
Ok we've talked enough about Starbucks....
Dunkin Donuts though. $2 lattes from 2pm-6pm est? Yes please. 😍
Luna Harp Virgin Starbucks vs Chad Dunkin Donuts
It’s crap here in Indy, but NJ was amazing.
I see myself in two different szenarios if I were to be asked that question in a coffee shop.
Number 1: I'm in a good mood, it's warm and sunny and I look forward to something nice and want a nice coffee to kill some time.
I either politely or bluntly state that I have no facebook account, I choose my friends based on their character and/or that's none of their business.
Number 2: I'm in a bad mood, it's early in the morning, my coffemaker broke and I'm already annoyed by the unnatural chirpiness of the people around me at this ungodly hour.
I answer: "I have no facebook account and even if I had one, it would be none of your flippin' business who my friends are, so hand me my goddamn coffee or I'll rip out your spine and beat you to death with it."
I stopped going to Starbucks around 2013 so I missed this “special “ moment with my barista. 😶
This is my favorite channel because Simon is English and a lawyer and has difficulty with English
Simon isn't a lawyer. Nor does he have much difficulty with English.
I suggested this! Via TH-cam and Twitter! Yay for me!
I think I will now call the yoga pants that moms in my store wear as "Lullamun" pants...
Simon: Danny, your knowledge of the Starbucks menu is extensive!
Danny: Well it's all online, isn't it?
This is definitely my favorite channel . It has a more relaxed feel to it.
Oh yeah! That was a thing. Honestly I agree. I can't imagine worse place, than in the Starbucks during morning crowding (or siege of the baristas) and no worse person, than college student, who gets minimum wage and has to get up at 5AM to get to work on time, to have this conversation with around complete caffeine addicted strangers, who can't think rationally until they get their morning dose.
p.s. Nice maps on the walls, especially the bottom one.
That must have been really uncomfortable for the baristas as well. I imagine they had to have known that some customers would respond in a hostile manner. Starbucks put their employees in a bad position where confrontation was inevitable. Bad idea. Even worse execution.
I worked for Starbuck's for 10 years and this was one of the more boneheaded things they pulled. If a customer just looked at the staff of any particular Starbuck's they'd get the message. But Howie, true to form, turns a company philosophy of being kind to others into a way to turn even more of a profit.
I was on a Starbucks kick when they did this and my go to reply was "who pays attention to what race ur friends are colleges r in this day u racist". I always said it in a mockingly kind voice and noticed they didn't ask it again for a while after. I know it was a little mean but after about the 20th time I was asked i was annoyed when all i wanted was coffee. And at $5 for coffee it was a unwelcome idea to ask stuff like that.
It happened, and at my store in highly conservative southeast Texas we threw the #racetogether stickers away and never mentioned it. No one wanted to deal with the backlash from opening up that can of worms.
I would look at them and say "What facebook?" And "I don't have friends. I hate all of you." Stuff like that.
I actually worked at Starbucks during all this. Our store manager refused to make us all do this, and made it optional. Most of us opted out. We still had to listen to customers complaining at length that the program was inappropriate. Fun times were had by all.
iiiiiii bet i can guess the race of every person involved in this ideaaaaaa
Ahhh, Danny. I love Danny's scripts.
Danny, you are so gifted. But you are brutal, you need to warn people when you craft such a hysterical script.
I'm glad I have a detached keyboard, I coughed up half my drink listening to this.
Danny when are you going to write a novel damnit!!!!
ZERO ...all my Facebook friends are part of the Human Race
I get the feeling that Danny may have been a barista in another life...
A study just came out detailing how this virtue signaling bollocks they did correlated with a decline in clientele.
It's also worth noting that these questions you mentioned are essentially the same as faux social justice initiatives like affirmative action. Maybe well intentioned, but effectively racist in practice. Similarly, questions of the same vein are on federal forms of all types, notably in regards to civil rights. For example, background checks for firearms. This makes a de facto registry of how many people of each race (so long as it's one of 6 races they choose) initiate firearm transfers and thus background checks
Starbucks: how many Facebook friends are of a different race?
Closest Racist: -Narrows Eyes- Too many
Danny, another great script! Simon I love your videos (subscribed to 4 different ones) lol
I'd call the barista racist for even asking me that, and tell them that "I don't practice racial profiling or segregation unlike you, you bigot".
I'm surprised Starbucks even survived that fire storm after having insulted, probably, millions of customers in one day with that campaign.
I got a fregging Starbucks ad during this video.... 😂😂🤣😂🤣🇺🇸
I suggest doing a video about the rise and decline of malls
Do you remember the 2 black men arrested at Starbucks for not ordering anything? Pepperidge Farm remembers
The comment about the hazelnut hot chocolate made me laugh so hard I woke my cat up. The resulting baleful look on a whiskered face was truly scary.
Danny just secretly wants you to order him a caramel brulée latte when they come around... iced.
Just watching this eight months late cause I missed this one in its prime. I love the way Danny yammer on before getting to the point. Some good writing there.
Solved! Closest Starbucks where parking is easily available is abou 50 miles away. On the rare occasions when we’re close, we email the order and usually ready when we get there
I have no memory of this because I don't do starbucks but wow thank you for showing me this lol
also when you said lulu-lemon I pictures a broken down car with pictures of little lulu all over them and hoped it wasn't an off white rusty van parked a block from the school because I've NEVER heard that term before we just say yoga pants because all brands are honestly the same thing.
Do the Pepsi advertising disaster!
One of my nieces asked me a similar question several years ago. Granted, she was 4 or 5, and my roommate was the first Black person she'd ever seen besides her uncle (her city is now down to 88% white). I told her I wasn't gonna go onto my Facebook or through my phone to count my non-white friends. "Why?" "Because I don't give a crap what they are unless someone is giving them crap for it. Got better things to do, like didn't you want ice cream kid?"
This does remind me of a funny story from a place I worked. One of my coworkers and I were joking around and he sarcastically (but in a friendly not angry way) commented that "Yeah, yeah... I'm sure, you've 'got black friends'..." (BTW, I'm white, he's black)
I gave him a thoughtful look for a moment and responded "No, I don't have any black friends."
He suddenly gave me a look of complete disbelief and shock.
"What?!" I responded, "I don't have any white friends either. I'm a complete loser. I don't have ANY friends."
I've never seen a coworker laugh that hard.
Omg I remember this, was working at a Starbucks during this time, my eyes rolled so hard at this idea
"Racially diverse friends spreadsheet".... LMFAO
Where do Jews fit in? Especially Ashkenazim. I’m assumed to be a white gentile until I say I’m Jewish. Fascists not only consider me not white but the cause of all problems that white gentiles have.
Coffee with that level of foam on top is not a "simple" anything.
That's a "crema" ;DD
A friend had a new, expensive espresso machine. He made me an iced espresso. All I could think to say was, "Cold coffee; yuck!" Boy was he pissed!
All my friends on FB are of the human race. No, I take that back. I have one FB friend that is a cat. He has his own FB page.
I’ll bet you get. More intelligent conversations outa the cat. LOL
@@stephenbrown571 I've stripped my Facebook profile down to my name and my face. I don't use Facebook much outside of hurricane season.
Starbuck asks, my answer * Que?*
when companies suck at gathering marketing data about you SURREPTITIOUSLY
Ever notice you never see Danny and Simon in the same room at the same time?
Hilarious. Do an episode on Yik Yak, since ex CEO Tyler Droll enacted one of the most spectacular examples of corporate self-immolation I know of.
I went to school for Journalism and Communications and actually wrote a paper on this for my PR class. Got an A though - BAM.
Oh god I love this channel. It’s so funny. You guys are so great, thanks for another awesomely funny video. Take care and keep them coming.
It's super fun to watch you cut loose a bit.
I learned that Brits call "lines" ... "Queues" thanks Simon... Trivia answer learned.. From 🇺🇸
Strangely enough, I don't have my friends, co-workers, and acquaintenances organized by race. I guess that makes me racist?
Definitely
Come on Simon, blockbuster! Tell Danny to get his witty little fingers smashing that keyboard.
Dont delete your twitter Simon! How else will i interact with my hero?!?!
:)
It's a wonder Starbucks here in South Africa didn't also have that.
i worked at starbucks during this time and it was the most awkward time of my career. i refused to ask customers any of these questions. i just remember thinking wtf guys im a batista in the south i aint opening this can of worms around here.
I've never been to a stabucks. I barely have the energy to get to my coffeemaker in the morning. Luckily my coffeemaker has a timer so it's always ready when I wake up.
I'm with you Simon I have black coffee too 👍
I feel like Danny and Simon are so often on the same page that they must share the same entertaining and intellectual brain
Barista: How many friends do you have of a different race?
Me: Where's my damn coffee?
Not in there for pumpkin spice psychology.
What gets me is that they assume that everyone has a Facebook account. I haven’t and don’t want one. 🤷🏻♂️
Never happened to me but the Starbucks inside Kroger employees must have said “thanks but no thanks” to this
I hate coffee shops because I know nothing about coffee and most of the time I have no idea what i'm ordering.
If my Starbucks barista asked me anything like this, I’d turn around and walk out and get my coffee from Dunkin Donuts.
I think Danny should host one of these and you write some of that would be a hoot, just to know that he exists LOL sorry I just got caught up in somebody patreon going away we are so happy that I'm just now getting to your video
Can you do a video covering three smaller company success or failures. Maybe ones that didn't make the cut. This has been helpful understanding investment research.
The town I live in has only about 8k people. The last Census listed the demographics as white, black, Hispanic and "other." How would one feel about being listed as "other?"
2015 was the same year as the red cup fiasco, starbucks was wildin out in 2015