Ages ago I was playing Civ 1 during my first play through I thought I was doing great. I sent my Knight unit north to the sea. When I got there I saw a German submarine sail by. I definitely had to reassess my strategy.
I remember playing Call to Power, and finished building a railroad out of my capital. I was so proud, I thought I was pretty far ahead of everyone else technologically. Then, three turns later, my enemy rolled main battle tanks down it.
In the vanilla version, you can ACTUALLY invent a printing press without inventing a written language. "Man, this will be great for making... posters?"
Science Fact 237: You can get Mechanized Infantry without even learning the combustion engine. So you are telling me the soldiers run on the ground Flintstones style?
"My life's work was to stay dormant in Cheeselandia... until one day they woke me up and converted every fiber of my being into something called 'Nuclear Fission'..." Galileo, Great Scientist of Cheeseland, 1967.
Well, there have been solar powered planes, and aviation biofuels. Both are more complicated than oil, but maybe in those civilization timelines the thought of drilling for oil simply never occurred to anyone.
@@joanthetraveler3482 the first time i played,not knowing about the tech tree i quickly got nukes,only to find out that i have nothing to throw them out with without any oil
One of my favorite moments was rushing combustion to get landships for the defense of my country only to realize I needed oil and had just locked myself out of being able to build cavalry in the meantime.
I was running the 'Prehistory' mod that included the Paleolithic tech and 'Future Tech' that had stuff through Sentient robots and terraforming, ect. By the time I finished Agriculture, Arabia had discovered Nuclear Enrichment and was sending Death Machines after me. The most memorable game I've ever had...
I did the same except I played on warlord and made all the AI in the new world. When I got the new world I had musket men and I don't think they even got to the classical era yet.
Aidan Auld I just searched through the Steam Workshop. Click 'Subscribe' on any mod you want, then when you launch the game again go to the mods screen and apply them. As a general rule, almost everything in life can be found by reading the instruction manual (e.g. 'Help' screens)
Alright. Easier than KSP then... I had a look into modding it and got fairly confused fairly quick (I'm sure it's simple stuff, but I didn't want to screw it up) And yeah, I know. Just happened to have the question on hand when reading through this so I asked. :P
This was so funny. There are so many friggin contradictions made in the Civ V tech tree. After 1000 hours into this brilliant game, I never understand the following: 1) discovering the internet before computers 2)discovering atomic theory before chemistry 3)having the knowledge of flight without any knowledge of sailing 4)understanding and using satellites without astronomy And could someone PLEASE explain who's idea it was to have embarking helicopters?!
I'm aware of the gas problem, but if there is an embarked enemy unit adjacent to land, there should be no reason why my helicopters shouldn't be able to attack that one unit. But don't think too hard into my comment, I just meant it as a funny inquiry; don't take it too seriously :)
Walks into the laboratory in the basement of a medieval fortress: "Sir, our scouts have discovered the secrets of nuclear fusion in some ancient ruins!" Um... We just discovered optics. What the hell are you talking about?" "No idea, but I'm sure it'll be helpful a few thousand years from now!"
"Well, scout, i understand you want to donate this object to the research laboratory." "No." "What? Oh, well i thought you might just allow us to reverse engi-" "No, it's mine." XD i'm dying
This is still relevant in Civ 6. It was something like 1900 and I still hadn't researched archery, and thus bows and arrows. While I had thermonuclear missiles. Why.
In the first game phalanx units could defeat tanks when defending. XD
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It's retarded, that Archery is not required for future technologies, because basicaly every civilization had reasarched archery very early, and what's more, bowstrings are something that helps you understand things like music, sewing etc. And physics too. Civilization is riddiculous game...
Lets be honest; who here HASN'T neglected the naval tree all the way up to the 20th century? You only benefit if your an island nation and it doesn't really impact the other research lines for centuries. You'd much rather research something that will get you a great wonder first, or give access to better artillery, or up your economic income than have frigates to protect your one coastal village. Especially since you can garrison that village with artillery anyways.
Not me - I always research sailing techs because of the food bonuses they give to cities near large bodies of water: allowing me to spend more time increasing the industrial capacity of the land tiles through things like mines and lumber mills instead of more farms.
i actually usually go way up the naval path first for the science and culture buildings and then go economic and then finally the bottom for military and infrastructure.
yep, if you go liberty to make up for the science you lose from expanding and not going writting asap, you gotta get to engineering and even sailing so you will have thosw trade routes up to net you science.
One of the funniest things in the game is that it's entirely possible to reach Satellites and build the Hubble Space Telescope...without ever researching Astronomy
I just found your videos and I can't stop watching them, So a thousand curses upon you for taking my time up and for making hilarious and under watched videos. Side note in one game I discovered the printing press before discovering writing.
Yes, some are racing to reach the modern era so they can pick the first ideology, or they're beelining for a later tech and are trying to get it as soon as possible.
I always rush to get to later eras faster. There was this one game where Greece still had muskets, while I already had helicopters. It was a massacre... until Russia came in and destroyed my ass.
I will often jump to the next era (such as ancient to classical) and then back track to get the techs initially skipped - my goal on the early and mid-game is to remain ahead in the tech game by killing neighboring rivals while they are still young and defenseless (dead civs conduct no research).
i still play Civ 4 a lot. Its always funny what strange technologies end up unresearched if you have the game automatically research the fastest path to the manhattan project.
Well I know everyone else is more wealthy and my last city is surrounded by artillery, but it would seem I have space travel, so you all lose. I don't even need food, money, military power, or any culture at all. You should all just bow to me now.
The best part about Door Monster besides the great content is that they consistently take the time on each of their videos to respond to fans personally. Door Monster and crew are just awesome and deserve an Emmy or something. (Idk the categories of awards)
For anyone wondering, I believe the progression from Archery to Wheel has to do with how the old Civ games' tech trees were set up. IIRC the wheel unlocked the chariot archer,....or maybe it required both wheel and archery. Also, chariot archers used to be open to all civs and not limited to Egypt.
Lord of Tea oh yea. I never used them in Civ V so I didn't realize it was still there for everybody. Egypt's UU tho is the War Chariot which replaces Chariot Archers, and also requires Wheel
Meanwhile, in Alpha Centari: "Hey doc, we got to spend research credits on combustible engines that uses file with a flashpoint above 52 degrees. Whatdoyamean we already have those?"
I love how in my first game I completely ignored science and stuff so here I am in the industrial era with a wall of samurai learning how to print things
The funniest thing is how accurate this is like how you can crush your enemies with a barrage of nuclear missiles before you know what a pot is. Great video as always. You guys are the best.
"I call it: a pot." "Wow, that seems really obvious actually, why haven't we come up with that yet?" "Uh... I don't know." Because they weren't going for the all-powerful science rush strat, although Sejong and Rameses probably already got all the good science wonders.
I imagine that shouldn't be a problem, especially with the new Agenda system. Lots of built in rivalries (like Egypt and China) which should make for good tropes! :D
Ages ago I was playing Civ 1 during my first play through I thought I was doing great. I sent my Knight unit north to the sea. When I got there I saw a German submarine sail by. I definitely had to reassess my strategy.
Haha you are old
I screen-shotted this comment, I need to share this
This comment is gold
I remember playing Call to Power, and finished building a railroad out of my capital. I was so proud, I thought I was pretty far ahead of everyone else technologically. Then, three turns later, my enemy rolled main battle tanks down it.
@Herr Vorragend Pretty sure they were using 'sail' as a transitive verb. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
In the vanilla version, you can ACTUALLY invent a printing press without inventing a written language.
"Man, this will be great for making... posters?"
This will be amazing to put strange drawings of nuke for dangerous danger
Trygve Plaustrum g
Pictures of people doing stuff
Science Fact 237: You can get Mechanized Infantry without even learning the combustion engine.
So you are telling me the soldiers run on the ground Flintstones style?
Shut up meme utopist
>Steals the Internet
>2 mins pass
>Steals Pottery
Hol'up
2 years before
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I too grant you a comment
I have been summoned! this post requires more comments and so i have delivered! Praise be the Section in which Comments like me reside!
Didn’t you hear? They’re really behind.
Shhh, we're trying to invent stirrups, and nuclear submarines.
I always liked how supposedly "Great People" create exactly one thing and then spontaneously disintegrate.
"My life's work was to stay dormant in Cheeselandia... until one day they woke me up and converted every fiber of my being into something called 'Nuclear Fission'..." Galileo, Great Scientist of Cheeseland, 1967.
"EUREKA! I'VE MADE A BREAKTHROUGH IN SCIENCE!..... shit."
*screams and fazes out of reality*
All nations also use the T-34, except Germany, who gets a Panzer that looks like a Tiger. Planes range from the BF-109 to the F-22.
Well a Tiger is a Panzer.
Superfamily Allosauridae
Panzer is german for Tank, so it's not wrong.
Surprised the scout didn't find World War 2 era rifles from those ancient ruins, since you know... that happens.
They just explored Vendrigoth lol
I see we have a fellow Arcanum player here
Feature Length Indeed we have
I found ballistic missile research in a hut once
Butter of Sorrow lol
My favorite civ science weirdness is how you can unlock planes without unlocking oil. " We have these machines we can fly, but we can't power them"
Well, there have been solar powered planes, and aviation biofuels. Both are more complicated than oil, but maybe in those civilization timelines the thought of drilling for oil simply never occurred to anyone.
But the planes in the game require oil so...
@@joanthetraveler3482 the first time i played,not knowing about the tech tree i quickly got nukes,only to find out that i have nothing to throw them out with without any oil
Patrick Yeh you have wheels and animal husbandry right? That could work
One of my favorite moments was rushing combustion to get landships for the defense of my country only to realize I needed oil and had just locked myself out of being able to build cavalry in the meantime.
"Why are you stealing from us, we just made wheel?"
"Yeah, we're really behind."
Some of this cracks me up so bad. :'D
we just got to the renaissance and then destroyed our libraries
Must be a Venetian spy.
@@Ravenforce3 actually the spy was shown to be russian earlier in the video 1:23
DENOUNCE VENICE
@@Ravenforce3 'Go and research Education!'
'Can't yet.'
I was running the 'Prehistory' mod that included the Paleolithic tech and 'Future Tech' that had stuff through Sentient robots and terraforming, ect.
By the time I finished Agriculture, Arabia had discovered Nuclear Enrichment and was sending Death Machines after me.
The most memorable game I've ever had...
I have that mod... With true Start its a bitch to play...
I did the same except I played on warlord and made all the AI in the new world. When I got the new world I had musket men and I don't think they even got to the classical era yet.
Where does one find these mods and are they easy to install? *Has no idea how to mod*
Aidan Auld
I just searched through the Steam Workshop. Click 'Subscribe' on any mod you want, then when you launch the game again go to the mods screen and apply them.
As a general rule, almost everything in life can be found by reading the instruction manual (e.g. 'Help' screens)
Alright. Easier than KSP then... I had a look into modding it and got fairly confused fairly quick (I'm sure it's simple stuff, but I didn't want to screw it up)
And yeah, I know. Just happened to have the question on hand when reading through this so I asked. :P
This was so funny. There are so many friggin contradictions made in the Civ V tech tree. After 1000 hours into this brilliant game, I never understand the following:
1) discovering the internet before computers
2)discovering atomic theory before chemistry
3)having the knowledge of flight without any knowledge of sailing
4)understanding and using satellites without astronomy
And could someone PLEASE explain who's idea it was to have embarking helicopters?!
Sid's?
I don't know for certain, but I think flying attack helicopters of a vast ocean might not be a great idea.
Gwai Lo Think they will run out gas or something?
I'm aware of the gas problem, but if there is an embarked enemy unit adjacent to land, there should be no reason why my helicopters shouldn't be able to attack that one unit. But don't think too hard into my comment, I just meant it as a funny inquiry; don't take it too seriously :)
Sunday3101 Na, it fine... I understand that now...
This skit perfectly describes how it feel to play Hammurabi in civ 6, just " Ah ha! Nuclear warheads! Now if only i knew what an engineer was."
Gosh, Hammurabi in civ 6 is a *drug*.
Walks into the laboratory in the basement of a medieval fortress: "Sir, our scouts have discovered the secrets of nuclear fusion in some ancient ruins!" Um... We just discovered optics. What the hell are you talking about?" "No idea, but I'm sure it'll be helpful a few thousand years from now!"
well now you can build giant death robots
After a century
Thats sound like one those "alternate-history" freaks irl
That's actually what happens to a lot of discoveries. We need to wait until we find a use for them.
Recommended as "Science" by TH-cam. Not complaining.
well it does have "science" in the title and the thumbnail does show 2 guys in lab coats
"Well, scout, i understand you want to donate this object to the research laboratory."
"No."
"What? Oh, well i thought you might just allow us to reverse engi-"
"No, it's mine."
XD i'm dying
now you have super archers!
The scout is actually a really decent actor.
"Hello. I am scout."
+Jakob Kristensen Sandvik
I AM GROOT
Are you a spy ?
+GamesFrontline Um....Yes.
Gotta love Kyle
This is still relevant in Civ 6.
It was something like 1900 and I still hadn't researched archery, and thus bows and arrows.
While I had thermonuclear missiles.
Why.
Guns are overrated.
Slings ftw!
Now your enemies can shoot your missiles out of the sky with bows and arrows, and you don't have a defense against that!
Guns.... so primitive.
General Horse I understood that reference
Breaking news! the Russian carrier jets are bombarding our cities!
(10 minutes pass)
The Russians have stolen sailing!
Damn Russians...
Yeah. Damn Russians.
@Stooven McStoovenson Then proceeds to sink the aforementioned carrier with that crossbow.
@Я Каджит да ты вообще каджит! Воровство у тебя в крови!
that's the famous flying russian carrier
I absolutely love the use of all the audio-cues in these videos.
Thanks! We have a whole library of Civ 5 sound effects by now.
Lol “is there anything else you’re working on?” “Nope” hangs up is a perfect indictment of single use scientists
"Our laboratory is too cluttered to allow cameras, so we are filming in the kitchen."
I bet with archery discovered
The millitary advisor says it will give us a big advantage in warfare
...Yes
Arrows
Vs
Tanks
.................yes
hawkeye ... nuff said
Well fire arrows are like Lazer guns
In the first game phalanx units could defeat tanks when defending. XD
It's retarded, that Archery is not required for future technologies, because basicaly every civilization had reasarched archery very early, and what's more, bowstrings are something that helps you understand things like music, sewing etc. And physics too.
Civilization is riddiculous game...
In Civilization IV , a longbowman had destroyed my modern armored
"Is there anything else you're working on?"
"Nope." *hangs up*
2:53 In Civ V you have to discover archery in order to discover the wheel lmfao I cracked up
I loved the spy stealing stuff from the lab. XD
Lets be honest; who here HASN'T neglected the naval tree all the way up to the 20th century? You only benefit if your an island nation and it doesn't really impact the other research lines for centuries. You'd much rather research something that will get you a great wonder first, or give access to better artillery, or up your economic income than have frigates to protect your one coastal village. Especially since you can garrison that village with artillery anyways.
What about colonalsim
Not me - I always research sailing techs because of the food bonuses they give to cities near large bodies of water: allowing me to spend more time increasing the industrial capacity of the land tiles through things like mines and lumber mills instead of more farms.
i actually usually go way up the naval path first for the science and culture buildings and then go economic and then finally the bottom for military and infrastructure.
@@mitchelrowe6915 Ahem, did you mean "England"?
yeah but like, i like starting the world congress because it means i get more votes
I played one city Babylon before...... I got to the information era without sailing! XD
these floaty things on the water are overrated anyway!
you can have a carrier full of jets without sailing
"Look at this computer guys! I wonder how our explorers are doing..."
*Rowboat drifts past the window*
Well, those don't use sails xD
I played as England once and had Ships of the Line before Construction.
But archery leads to mathematics...
It depends on which expansion you're using. Some of them have it leading directly into the wheel.
yep, if you go liberty to make up for the science you lose from expanding and not going writting asap, you gotta get to engineering and even sailing so you will have thosw trade routes up to net you science.
are you a spy? nooooo *shifty eye looks* lolz
Funniest part was that awkward: "Yeah, we are really behind..." :D
One of the funniest things in the game is that it's entirely possible to reach Satellites and build the Hubble Space Telescope...without ever researching Astronomy
He comes in with the laptop and says "you can watch this [with it]" and at that moment youtube disconnects.
I just found your videos and I can't stop watching them, So a thousand curses upon you for taking my time up and for making hilarious and under watched videos.
Side note in one game I discovered the printing press before discovering writing.
Muaha, your time is forever ours.
Goshdang it, now I'm hooked too. I have work to do, you know!
What is work?
I have forgotten anything but Door Monster videos.
Agreed . Lol vids strangely funny
Darrerdian Learn to write before you can read.
Do a Civ 5 : Isolated Deity Korea
I love those games. I have only met half of the other civs but I'm already building space ship parts.
"Oh. There's venice. Cool. Bye"
"If this tank isnt mode of Steel, what is it made of?"
**Shrug** "Iron?"
"Hello... I am scout."
*TF2 Theme begins playing*
your civ videos are always hilarious
Thank you!
Absolutely love this channel, you guys deserve a lot more subscribers.
Thank you!
Please, don't steal my technology Quim.
That turn at 0:42. All my memories of educational videos at school came flooding back.
But you can't steal the internet! It's not a big truck, it's a series of tubes!
You can in Civ 5!
TheMarshmallowBear knowyourmeme.com/memes/series-of-tubes
you both won. But Rayram gets an extra point, because he ansewered with a popcultural reference as requested!
they stole all the tubes.
Am I the only person that researches everything in one era before moving to the next?
Yes, some are racing to reach the modern era so they can pick the first ideology, or they're beelining for a later tech and are trying to get it as soon as possible.
If im going to a science victory i first research stuff that boost my research so i get the stuff i let behind faster lather on
I always rush to get to later eras faster.
There was this one game where Greece still had muskets, while I already had helicopters. It was a massacre... until Russia came in and destroyed my ass.
I will often jump to the next era (such as ancient to classical) and then back track to get the techs initially skipped - my goal on the early and mid-game is to remain ahead in the tech game by killing neighboring rivals while they are still young and defenseless (dead civs conduct no research).
"The russians stole the internet" that aged well
Extremely.
Hi Cora!
I don't see any 'stolen' internet, just a bunch of low-effort hackers embarrassing corporations by exposing their terrible ICE.
“Yes, I am scout.” “No it is mine.” Fucking awesome
i still play Civ 4 a lot. Its always funny what strange technologies end up unresearched if you have the game automatically research the fastest path to the manhattan project.
I love Door Monster, you guys nailed so many tropes and these are infinitely rewatchable because of it
"and maybe get our sciene adviser to shut up for one minute"
*Science adviser nods while smiling
Well I know everyone else is more wealthy and my last city is surrounded by artillery, but it would seem I have space travel, so you all lose. I don't even need food, money, military power, or any culture at all. You should all just bow to me now.
- Catherine the Terrible of Russia, Circa 2017, moments before launching the last Russian survivors into space along with herself.
Doom 2's plot without the Doom Marine lol
This is canonically the start of Sid Meier's Alpha Centurai
happy 4th of july white lighting! may your food be hot your beers cold and may you be spared gandhi's nuclear wrath
Don't worry Gandhi is going to put on the Fireworks.
_"Beware the fury of a patient man."_
enemy spy stealing all the tech in the background LMAO I love it!
Civ makes a lot more sense if you imagine it takes place in the Fallout universe.
Unironically might be true
Because my favorite mods for civ 5 are fallout themed
*Great scientist comes on*
“Hi! I’m here to show you how to do a science”
*shoots self*
“LASERS RESEARCHED”
3:02
nice detail, the "next turn" sound
Why doesn't this channel have millions of subs?
It's another mystery of science.
I always take pottery first lol
I usually go pottery. More pots = more granary = more food = more people = more science = more nukes = more win.
Sky Valley Awwwwyeeeaaahh boooiiiiii
Try to do that on difficulty 7 or 8 ;p.
The science advisor is the one who does the least talking, I love him! He's always complimenting me
i love how many games where im over halfway through and i decide "to figure out this sailing thing I heard so much about"
*has nuclear weapons; doesn't know how to build a boat*
Love this channel you guys are awesome! Happy 4th
Thanks! Same to you!
Aha! The "scout" is from Venice, the nation really far behind, right?
+Dakota Williams No russia since they just stole the internet
No, the scout is not from Russia because Venice is so far behind, they cannot research education, let alone the internet.
Scout says "NO, it's MINE!!!" Haha, and he was a spy all along, Ahahaha I love these people!!!
Now that's efficiency!
Captain Weekend I understood that reference
I fucking lost it when the hand came and stole something xD because like "A civilization has stolen MATHEMATICS" xD
I’ve only played two games of Civ in my entire life, but that’s enough to know how accurate and funny this video is
Your Civ videos are some of my favorite videos on TH-cam.
That's amazing to hear. Thanks for the support!
This video never gets old. Every line is delivered just perfectly.
This was classic youtube
Low budget but great humor! This is Door Monster at its best!
As soon as I saw another Civ V video I HAD to watch it.
That's a hysterically accurate interpretation of the goings on in Civ 5. Bravo!
I like it how the discovery of combustion is announced via phone, which checks out with the tech tree :)
The best part about Door Monster besides the great content is that they consistently take the time on each of their videos to respond to fans personally. Door Monster and crew are just awesome and deserve an Emmy or something. (Idk the categories of awards)
Thanks so much! XD It still blows our minds that anyone even watches these things, so we love hearing from the people who do.
With the recent update to civ 6 adding tech shuffle mode this video gets even better
the constant spy stealing -tech in the background💀
1:58 When the word computation existed before the Computer.
computers used to be people who make computations
For anyone wondering, I believe the progression from Archery to Wheel has to do with how the old Civ games' tech trees were set up. IIRC the wheel unlocked the chariot archer,....or maybe it required both wheel and archery. Also, chariot archers used to be open to all civs and not limited to Egypt.
Dunno, mate, but I am playing as China right now and in 1 turn I`ll get my Chariot Archer.
Lord of Tea oh yea. I never used them in Civ V so I didn't realize it was still there for everybody. Egypt's UU tho is the War Chariot which replaces Chariot Archers, and also requires Wheel
"Well, we could reverse engineer it and--" "no"
0:35 is That a spy stealing tech? 😂
Meanwhile, in Alpha Centari:
"Hey doc, we got to spend research credits on combustible engines that uses file with a flashpoint above 52 degrees.
Whatdoyamean we already have those?"
The way that he got caught drinking out of his mug during what he thought was going to be a longer break…😆
0:40 the spy stealing tech, though 😹😹
That feeling when you are granted your first spy in the classical era.
I love how in my first game I completely ignored science and stuff so here I am in the industrial era with a wall of samurai learning how to print things
"I have invented the internet"
"cool, how do you use it"
"Oh, we can't. We need a computer for that, which hasn't been invented yet"
2:35, Jefferey invents our AI overlord, Dell Laptop
My favourite discovery was Mass Media, since that gave Leonard Nimoy be Spock on Star Trek, which lead him to voicing Civ IVs tech quotes.
When a Scout finds bows in ancient ruins they get turned into an archer unit.
Now to wheel- “I’ve got this bow, I’m just gonna bend it a little bit more and.... yeah I think I’ve got it!”
As someone doing a science victory playthrough with my friend, this is very amusing.
I love future tech runs with friends where we have Ironclads before discovering sailing. It's lovely.
Not as strange as researching nuclear physics without first developing "the wheel."
"No,
No its mine."
i laughed so fucking hard
it always makes me so mad that in my multiple years of playing i still havent gotten the techs on time with the real world
Left hand, right hand, left hand, right hand, left hand...
Another great civ v video. You guys deserve so much more recognition. Liked and shared.
Thank you!
I feel like someone who never played Civ would be so confused.
I was playing england and focusing entirely on the naval tree, which led to me skipping an entire era as there were no naval techs in that era.
The funniest thing is how accurate this is like how you can crush your enemies with a barrage of nuclear missiles before you know what a pot is. Great video as always. You guys are the best.
"I call it: a pot."
"Wow, that seems really obvious actually, why haven't we come up with that yet?"
"Uh... I don't know."
Because they weren't going for the all-powerful science rush strat, although Sejong and Rameses probably already got all the good science wonders.
Why are you stealing from us we just made wheels?
Spy:Yeah we're really behind.
Civ 5 Science in a nutshell.
That Scout is a Spy!
"Welcome to the first episode of science victory." Is this actually going to be a mini-series (because if it is, that's awesome)?
Just a one-time thing. But there will be another Civ 5 video each month until Civ 6 comes out in October!
I loughed so much, a tear came out
I can't wait to see what you come up with for Civ VI!
Us too! We have basically no idea until the game comes out. We're really hoping it's different enough to actually come up with something new.
I imagine that shouldn't be a problem, especially with the new Agenda system. Lots of built in rivalries (like Egypt and China) which should make for good tropes! :D
"Is there any other thing you're working on?". "Nope." Too true
I know
"The russians have stolen the internet!" Omfg I'm dying.