e152: HG-P407 Metal 4x4 Pick Up Crawler Tamiya Bruiser Clone Body Comparison
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Very informative video. Thank you for really showing all the little details that separate the two!
Thank you! Im sure I missed something but it is close!
Those two bodies look pretty close . They do look cool. I did get the number for the speed controller teu-302bk. Tamiya speed controller
Oh yeah I have never used that one.
Great video my friend again, great job 😁👍😁
Thank you Tony!
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A new bruiser is next on my list, had one back in the eighties.
They are neat but take a look at the trailfinder 2. They body is the same but the chassis is lightyears better and has a massive aftermarket following and costs 1/3rd the price.
Informative vid🙂
Thank you! Interesting how good that shell is.
I bought one of these after seeing your first video. as I'm sure many others did. The steering servo seams weak. I'm looking forward to seeing the upgrades you make on yours. Also looking forward to seeing how you paint yours. I am considering purchasing Bruiser decals or Mountaineer decals so that mine looks correct. Keep these videos coming they are greatly appreciated.
It does but only because it is a standard on. Those tires are big. Paint on mine is done! See instagram!
John Gubler, are you satisfied with your purchase I'm thinking about buying one from banggood did you get all your parts I've heard horror stories that some pieces are missing sometimes?
Great video and awsome truck do you know if the esc can handle a 3s lipo?
No idea but the gearbox and chassis cannot. I would also say it cant even handle anything but the stock 540 or a crawler motor.
I've already seen spares for the clone truck on ebay, I guess body parts will be available too.
Oh I haven't even looked. I will now.
Did you try upgrading to the slipper clutch on the HG-P407?
No I heard that there was one but I see no reason for how I run my 4x4's. I putt around mostly but if you jump it, then yes.
Those look like the wpl c14 n c24 cabs, but these r bigger for sure, plus these r the originals they copied off of! Great comparison they r very close
Yeah the C14 and C24 are obvious tributes to these.
I'm looking at getting one but I'm a big Tamiya fan and I wonder how the quality compares I'm sure they're cutting corners somewhere. what's your opinion on it and again great videos !!!
Well, I am also die hard Tamiya but this thing (or the one I have anyway) is amazing. I do not have a RERE bruiser to compare it to but comparing it to my vintage one, this is way better. Again, this truck is selling for $250 shipped. The Tamiya is $1200 at thier MSRP.
@@AMPROEngineering ok thanks im getting me one !!!
Would you have interior door panels for the HG P407?
Yes, check episode 165. Links in description.
I bit the bullet and ordered a black one from Banggood. Being a Back To The Future fan I thought it'd be cool to do it like the Hilux from the movie, if possible. Can you get the later model grille and headlights, roll bar and spotlights for these body's?
Oh nice! Well I have seen people try and modernize these but the bodies are totally different but it can be done.
@@AMPROEngineering Is the right year model body available? I think it would be '85 or '87.
I think so but in lexan and not ABS. I forgot who makes it but usually they are all black like the BTTF truck. Detail is "eh". I guess it could be worse.
@@AMPROEngineering Oh right, not being very familiar with the different models I thought it might be possible to just do an 85 grille/headlight piece for the stock ABS body, seems that's not the case.
The body style from this to the 1985 Toyota is totally different. I think it’s Parma that makes the lexan? I’ve owned a 1980 and an 1987,which is the same body style as the BTTF,but with an independent front suspension instead of a straight axle. Maybe buy the RC4wd 4runner body and make it into the BTTF pickup? Not sure how much you’d have to modify it though.
😃👍close enough.
That's the truth.
I hope they will sell the mountaineer ^^
Or just the options parts to make it.
Isn't it just the roll bar? Still, the trailfinder 2 is the truck to get.
It's not the same price : 400$ the body only Oo
Maybe we would say about optionals parts ? Mmm... 40$ but exactly the same... But why not.
Thanks.
they do seem to be putting out separate parts, you can at least buy full axle assemblies and some other assemblies
I just saw that. That is great to see!
uncle, if for the size of the hard body f350 double cabin how much is the uncle for the cabin itself and how much is it Scala 1:10??
The Hilux and F350 bodies are not in the same scale.
Toyato!!!
Love it.
Nice review.Maybe Tamiya has nothing to do with this? Took alot to clone the Bruiser. These seem to sit a little higher than my new build. I just need to paint my new one.
No clue. I mean I kind of doubt it but it is such a close match that it is hard to believe someone went to this detail to make a copy.
That's true. The newer trucks are more complex than the original ones. There's more parts in the axles and transmission now than the older ones. I restored 15 older ones and wouldn't even think of trying to do these newer ones.
I can say this.. The genuine RC4WD bed does not fit the HG P407 or Tamiya cab. The screw holes don't line up, and even the side trim is slightly smaller. Also the gas filler door inprint is missing on both Tamiya and Hg P407. BUT.. Not for nothing, I do prefer the HG P407 body over all. This is due to the RC4WD having far less crispness to the mold, and both genuine products not being bright white. What I do is I cut the bed like a bedliner insert, and mate it with the HG P407 outer bed body, to get a full depth, pickup bed look.. If you combined the two beds, it is possible to get a full drop down bed, not the half drop in bed of the Rc4wd, or the Tamiya mold holes. Things like that bother me, more so than small imperfections, that I can fill with body filler. So....Basically I like the crispness of the HG P407 mold, and the bright white plastic for painting purposes. Nevermind the prices at both Tamiya and Rc4wd are as close to insane as possible, without causing a customer boycott.
Yeah the RC4WD mold is by far the worst. I was blow away by the 407. It is quite will done. As for prices...yeah, I hear you on that also.
my original bruiser has [ Toyota ] made into the grill
I think only the original had that. My High lift does not.
To me it also looks like the tamiya has a keyhole under the door handle and the 407 doesnt...or maybe its just me...
No you are correct.
Those molds are so close. They are also different colors also.
I know. Color is simple as it is just pigment but even the material quality is amazing.
AMPRO Engineering I think it's cool. 900 for a reissue is not going to happen for me. Even back in the day the orginal bruser kits are 900.
AMPRO Engineering it appears the bruser spawn lol is a nice truck
I think YOUR being very VERY picky, especially taking into account the $$$$$ difference !
Oh yes but that was the point of this video. I wanted to see all the differences and imperfections, none of which warrant spending $1000 more on the real one. This truck really is amazing.
I feel a bit bad for Tamiya as this is obvious use of their intellectual property, but I'm not going to pay $900 for a bruiser ever.
I am on your side. It is unfortunate and at the same time, understandable.
We also have to remember that Tamiya had to pay for all the R&D including the engineers and such. So they need to make it $900 to get some of that money back. It’s much easier to reverse engineer someone else’s design. I’m lucky enough to have the genuine 1980s vintage bruiser in mint condition. But I would consider buying the copy cat one also. I do like the body with the light up marker lights. I wish the stock vintage Bruiser body had those.
LOL. As you said yourself, Tamiya and even rc4wd prices are ridiculous. So personally I fail to feel any pitty for a company that over charges customers for cheap plastic un-trimmed mold pieces. Besides, I'm they discontinued production and sold the molds, or actually left them behind. Boo Hoo Tamiya.
Thanks to China hope they copy lots of RC that i can afford. Im not the one who will pay a $900 for a toy.
just bought this knock off kit, i would have preferred the Tamiya but i mean at the price dang hard to say no.
Yeah I don't know what they are thinking to charge that much for a million year old kit.
I fought tamiya has any legal rights to the body or this other company wouldn’t be doing this copy
I totally agree. Look at the RC4WD Trailfinder 2 also.
I love the body on that truck, and the stance, but underneath, it just seems like it's a piece of crap that needs too much upgrades. Doesn't seem worth the money. Without detailing, and painting, it's just a cheap, piece of crap, toy looking, RC.
Well, it is basically the Bruiser. You would have no way to tell the difference between the two of them in person other. It is a really well made truck but like you say, needs a fortune to make it even acceptable as anything scale and usable...like the Bruiser. The difference is this is cheap and the bruiser/mountaineer cost a fortune. If you want a big wheel truck, this is a great choice but they are just so fragile and with so many unique parts....no thanks.