Beethoven - Symphony No. 3 Eroica - Erich Kleiber/Concertgebouw 1950 (complete)
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Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No. 3 in E-flat, Op.55 'Eroica' //
0:00 - I. Allegro con brio --
13:36 - II. Marcia funebre. Adagio assai --
28:41 - III. Scherzo-Trio. Allegro vivace --
34:06 - IV. Finale. Allegro molto --
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra / Erich Kleiber, cond.
recorded May 8, 1950 - เพลง
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Must be rarer than hen"s teeth to have both father and son to be such brilliant conductors, how wonderful.
The Eroica never ceases to amaze me. What a masterpiece
Impressive how fresh this recording still is.
In my youthful days, I loved
Conducting this piece.
This, despite its age, is the best performance of the Eroica I have ever heard
What makes this so good you think?
Everything is in place, proportioned, yet not mechanical, but with spontaneity and feeling.
This is art, in other words. Thanks!
This is the finest, most fully realized and animated Eroica, and it has been magnificently remastered.
My introduction to western classical was through eroica in 1979 and i still get goosepimples every time i hear it! In fact symphony 3, 5, 7 and 9 i have heard so many times that i can sit in a corner and play the full concert in the head! Do watch the BBC movie eroica, available on youtube.
The testimony of this music is that even after 250+ years it still captivates us and each conductor giving us their own nuances and interpretations. As Mr. Hari put it, Arturo Toscanini version too! Though i might sound pompous, blessed are those who can appreciate these classical gems!
Erich Kleiber, Carlos' father, was a great interpreter of Beethoven. Splendid 3rd!
Wonderful recording, and no exaggerations anywhere! Kleiber senior is definitely a favorite of mine. By the way, I still consider his Figaro from 1954 as the best ever, with Siepi etc.
Prendre un tel pied dans un grand classique tel que l'Eroica de Beethoven que j'ai écouté des centaines de fois, c'est incroyable ! Quel génie ce Erich Kleiber. Pas étonnant que le fils, Carlos, ait eu quelques complexes avec un père pareil ! Merci maestro
Erich et Carlos étaient de la même veine : la perfection.
Heureusement que le répertoire est vaste et qu'il n'ont pas dirigé les mêmes choses. Et il en est même resté pour les autres ....
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher Ils ont quelques intersections intéressantes.
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher Justement non.
De Johann Strauss à Beethoven...leur répertoire était bien proche.
Le refus de Carlos K. de s' attacher à un orchestre lui fut fort préjudiciable.
Sublime interpretazione di un capolavoro immortale 😎
スッキリとした素敵な演奏。私はｶﾙﾛｽより父親の方が好きですね。ｺﾝｽｾﾙﾄﾍﾎﾞｳ管を振った田園もいい演奏でした😊
it sounds so fresh. like a modern stereo recording.
One of the first LPs I bought as a schoolboy was a DECCA Eclipse of Erich Kleiber with the VPO in fake stereo. After almost 50 years I can still hear the elder Kleiber's performance overlaying any more recent interpretation, no matter how good they might be. He (Erich) managed to combine lyricism and rhythmic propulsion in a way I have rarely heard matched and doubt I will hear surpassed this side of heaven.
What a great conductor was Kleiber senior
And his son, Carlos, the Greatest conductor of all time!
Jean-René Louët Don't be so categorical. 😏
Beethoven's Big Bang, although by this time he had composed some stuff that signaled his titanic place in history, the Eroica was his first major, long and daring ouvre. Yes indeed, Haydn couldn't believe his ears.
Thanks.
This is the best (with P. Monteux) rendition of the 3rd I have ever heard. Great sound.
Clive Gray Did you ever hear Wilhelm Furtwängler? IMHO even better than this. But I agree Erich Kleiber was great (and very underrated IMHO)!
You should see and listen Eduard van Beinum at the head of this Koninklijk Concertgebouw orkest, on May the 5th, 1957: Really splendid!!!
I like Pirate Monteux and the London symphony version it so powerful and meaty solid
Everyone say this about all the great conductors versions...
@@jeanrenelouet Watching it right know, thanks for such a wonderful hidden gem!
Grandioso Beethoven! Grandioso Kleiber!
Genio de Genios
Wow what a germ, this is a symphony at it's best. By the way this piece was recommended by classic fm through an article on my phone. Thank you once again.
Brilliant sounds.
Thank you for sharing.
After 70 years, Erich Kleiber's Eroica has not been surpassed and rarely equalled.
Between the Kleiber family, the Jarvi family, the Mehtas (Mehli and Zubin), stuff runs in the family!
@@psalmtone2008 Sure ,
but the Jarvi family is the biggest !
Sir or madam, thank you so VERY much for your work, particularly this symphony and this performance. Much much appreciated. Perusing all of the Eroica performances, I believe this one by Eric is the best. Fleet, sinewy, bold, in a word, heroic. Thank you again, a thousand times. I will be leading a group of spinners through the entire symphony later in the year. I had been using the Bernstein performance. I hope to use this. Please let those of us know how we can pay you for your wonderful valuable work which I hope will continue for many years.
Erich Kleiber o saudoso mestre Austríaco, como sendo na sua passagem terrena um grande dirigente orquestral, é notória a fidelidade pautada, assim como na docilidade musical aqui muito bem registada com a formidável Royal Concertgebouw Orquestra. À sua eterna paz.
+Hari Nagarajan, ı am writing from Turkey. ıt gives great pleasure,to see somebody steel remembers Weingartner,Toscanini ,the geat conductors of the good old days and Walter,Klemperer,Furtwangler of course.All the good Beethoven,Brahms conductors.I wish you happy days full of music?
A huge improvement over the original Decca Recording. This recording and the 7th recorded the day after was a sober lesson for Decca's engineering team. That's why Eric Kleiber's Eroica has passed under the radar for so long. Fortunately Decca really got their act together over the next few years culminating in the wonders of the Culshaw/Solti Ring. Thank you ReSoundWorks
I was just about to puchase a remaster and luckilly found out that this amazing channel uploaded a mix that sounds even better and for free. Thank you very much, ReSoundWorks!!
Nature simply nourished humanity for its single need of a Symphony, Beethoven arrived and delivered it. Humanities mission is accomplished and is over.
You can see where Carlos got his genius in conducting. This is a great performance.
IN FACT , NO !
Carlos is very différent in many senses.
ピエール・モントゥーのエロイカを先取りしたような演奏です。気高い精神を、コンセルトへボウがべらぼうな巧さで表現してゆきます。文句のつけようがありません。感動しました。
11:39 and especially 12:07 .. . . oh God , this is so elegant and beautiful ...breathtaking beauty . . . . . perhaps the clue to Carlos not wanting to conduct the Third ...
Fritz Maisenbacher exactly.
Carlos did ok on the 4th, 5th and 7th! :)
33:49 oh my God oh my God this beauty , this beauty .....
wonderful
Wonderful.
I have looked a record from 3. symphony by Carlos Kleiber, but this is exellent to!
Carlos didn't conduct the Third .
I'm a simple man: I see Beethoven, I like, I see Eroica, I turbo-like.
beautifully played by Eric Kleiber and the Concertgebow, Carlos Never recorded this Symphony Respect for the mastery of his father?.
If you like this, you should check out Solti's first recording of it for Decca, with the VPO. Better than any of his subsequent CSO versions, having the same kind of energy and clarity as this and Toscanini's 1953 disc.
Esta sinf. no tiene parangón con otra composición de Beethoven, ni siquiera por las causas que se quieran aducir. Fué en la primera que se introdugeronlas disonancias semitonadas, cosa que no se había hecho hasta la fecha y por supuesto sorprendió. La forma de inicio de la sinf. es extraña; dos acordes de atención en mi bemol M., como previniendo a la audiencia: ¡¡Ehh!... ¡Aquí estoy yo!. ¡Atención!. ¡Soy Beethoven!. Para ello,se apoyó básicamente en instrumentos claves de los grupos, madera y metal y toda la orquesta, acompaña los diferentes motivos que se repiten hasta la saciedad, cambiando las tonalidades, pero dentro de una Armonía clásica. Cuando la obra hubo terminado, Haydn que estaba presente, comentó: "Obra ruidosa y llena de furia, que marcará una nueva era para la gran música. Estamos ante un genio". No doy crédito a mis orejas.
Hello! I am writing from India. Your's is perhaps the most prescient observation that i have read for quite some time. This symphony for me is the greatest of the Beethoven symphonies (also tells us how incredible his other symphonies are). The great adagio (assai) of this symphony is truly significant in the symphonic genre. Beethoven like Haydn was a revolutionary in symphonic music. Kleiber senior is marvellous. Do also listen to the Weingartner version as well as Toscanini (1939 and 1953 versions).
Beethoven mismo admitió que éste era probablemente su mejor trabajo.
Obras como estas se encuentran en la intersección de tres vectores: un cierto "punto" en la historia de la vida de un individuo -- aquí, Beethoven; un cierto punto en la historia de la vida de la cultura del individuo; y finalemente un cierto punto en la historia de la vida del lenguaje de la cultura del individuo. Es un punto particular: un punto de ruptura, un "break-point." Como dice Tagore: "Todas las grandes manifestaciones del hombre tienen que ser juzgadas no por la letra, sino por el espíritu, el espíritu que se despliega con el crecimiento de la vida en la historia".
La actuación de Kleiber es tan incrediblo que se encuentra en el mismo umbral de la articulación vocal. La música y el lenguaje hablado son extrañas reflexiones el uno del otro.
BTHVN fue un Genio de Genios.
최고의 영웅!! the best of the best.
BRAVO!!!!1
Very satisfying musically, soundwise, and spiritually at least through the funeral movement. Make a final comment later.
ótimo.
maravilhoso. ..
Music that stiffens the sinews and thickens the blood. A rebirth of the spirit forged in the fire of struggle. From the restless opening, to the drifting longing of the second, the dancing scherzo collapsing into the climax and finally transcendence. Throughout, the tempest of struggle. "I AM", "I exist", the 3rd is the story of all men, of you and I. The individual overcoming himself in spite of himself. One of my favorites!
Waow ... ! This IS a text , my friend .... great !
Yes, absolutely beautiful. The story is told that Maestro Kleiber was found in his office crying with emotion after this performance by his Concert Master. If apocryphal, nevertheless understandable.
I would have cried myself too.
Ho apprezzato e condiviso moltissimi commenti. Personalmente ritengo che la Terza è in assoluto la più perfetta, armonica e equilibrata sinfonia del Nostro. I motivi sono tutti originali e sviluppati con logica” matematica( oserei dire sul modello di Bach). Ma la cosa straordinaria è il discorso musicale. Come in un’opera teatrale il discorso fila logico.
Una piccola nota personale. Kleiber senior “ non si discute “È…. La Vienna musicale, la massima espressione della storia musicale.
L’orchestra Concertgebow è superlativa.
Personalmente avrei preferito qualche passaggio musicale più lento. Ecco perché Furtwangler in Beethoven è superiore a Kleiber. È più ieratico e , a mio avviso, questa sinfonia lo merita.
es una gran sinfonía.
creo que no existe otra igual.
Interesting, father Erich and (much later) Son Carlos KLEIBER conducting the Concertgebouw and Beethoven (not the same symphony however)! A great recording! Erich Kleiber was underrated IMHO!
Carlos always refused to conduct this 3rd, and this, inter alia, because he told to me that his father and Herbert von Karajan had already said absolutely everything on it.
@@jeanrenelouet What a shame. Even if he couldn't top those performances, I'm sure audiences still would have enjoyed hearing him conduct it, and he could have had the enjoyment of performing the work himself!
Thanks! I was in diapers when this was performed, xD
Where can I purchase a copy of this recording?
39:33 Haha, 1st flute took the line all the way to Bb6. I approve!
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la meilleure que j'ai entendu , bien supérieure à monteux . Mais elle bénéficie d'une bonne prise de son
Dear Nick , I can now understand what was so important between us . Please pardon me for my stupid and selfish attitude . I hope we will meet us "soon" in the other world .
ho capito perché è stato dichiarato il miglior direttore di sempre, come per il pianoforte lo è, secondo me, arturo benedetti michelangeli.
non lui, ma suo figlio Carlos Kleiber
faster than I heard it before
I think it's Beethoven that falls down this way, not the conductor and/or the orchestra.
Otto Klemperer sent me here .
From Klemperer to Kleiber, and from Kleiber to Klemperer to Kleiber .........
Greatness does run in the Kleiber family...
Thank the heavens Carlos didn’t take Erich’s advice to not become a conductor
il mio precedente commento era riferito a carlos, anche se il padre mi pare un grande
all too fast
you're wrong, it's actually a little than Beethoven wrote it. Open your ears.
I meant slower than Beethoven wrote it.
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