Traces to Nowhere - The conductor Carlos Kleiber, with English subtitles (HD 1080p)

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  • Carlos Kleiber was one of the legendary conductors of his time, famous for his infrequent, but supreme interpretations. He had an unusual small repertoire for a major conductor, focusing on only a few symphonies, piano concertos and operas, and demanded unusually long rehearsals. Yet he managed to pull the finest efforts from his musicians because he made them believe in the music as much as he did.
    On the 11th July 2004 Carlos Kleiber got into his car and drove from Munich, via the Alps, to his holiday home in the remote Slovenian village of Konjsica. There he wrote a final letter to a friend in which he bid farewell to the world. A short time later the conductor, increasingly plagued by illness and suffering, was found dead.
    The documentary ‘Traces to Nowhere - The conductor Carlos Kleiber’, represents the first film dedicated to the enigmatic personality of the conductor. The film follows in the traces of Kleiber’s final journey and, by means of the recollections of friends and others who knew Kleiber - including the first and only interview with his sister Veronika Kleiber - portrays a conductor as renowned for his difficult personality as his brilliant work.
    Eric Schulz’ film contains not only impressive shots of Kleiber himself but also most illuminative statements of the said friends and companions. Featuring Veronika Kleiber, Michael Gielen, Plácido Domingo, Brigitte Fassbaender, Otto Schenk, Alexander Werner, Manfred Honeck, Otto Staindl, Klaus König, Karl Friedrich Mess, Anne Kirchbach, Martha Scherer a.o.
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  • @romanaborgia
    @romanaborgia ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Eines Tages kam ein göttliches Wesen zu uns auf die Erde, erfreute uns einige Zeit und ging wieder, genial, charismatisch, schön uuuund begabt, er bringt meine Seele zum tanzen....

  • @zevnikov
    @zevnikov 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Kleiber is absolutly No.1 conducotor of all times. Pure genius. His music is perfect and timeless.

    • @metalboostable
      @metalboostable 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh no Furtwängler is considered to be No. 1. His Tristan is unsurpassed, has conducted successfully in old Bayreuth, is the most important source in German repertoire. His recordings are absolutely legendary and became entangled in mysticism. Maybe Karajan second but let's say Kleiber and Karajan share second place.

    • @johannschneider6372
      @johannschneider6372 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sorry, but a statistic of the music magazine of our time says: Kleiber is the best conductor of all times. Chosen by his colleagues ...

    • @MrGelusion
      @MrGelusion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      why do we need this competition between musicians? What about Bernstein, Abbado, Bruno Walter, Toscanini, Klemperer and so many others?

    • @MrJonahWhaler
      @MrJonahWhaler 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      beacuase it's true))) Some are good, and some are no. That is just it.

    • @MrJonahWhaler
      @MrJonahWhaler 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Frutwangler is the greatest, but to me not in Tristan but more in Mozart, Schuber, Bruckne, Bach... Kleiber's Tristan I like more. Karajan, it is really strange for me to see him in that row.

  • @brynjarhoff-lr6hw
    @brynjarhoff-lr6hw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is for me a great Portrett of an Artist who was different…..

  • @ignacionoel2118
    @ignacionoel2118 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Carlos Kleiber best conductor of all times !!

    • @rudolfrichter7585
      @rudolfrichter7585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ohne Zweifel. Einmalig

    • @sarahjones-jf4pr
      @sarahjones-jf4pr ปีที่แล้ว

      ignacio noel To you maybe but no to illusive and difficult for me .

  • @robertneukamp8290
    @robertneukamp8290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wunderbare Dokumentation. "Schauen sie sich dieses Gesicht an, diese Energie! Wenn Kunst die Nabelschnur zum Göttlichen ist, der hängt an dieser Schnur."

  • @zelimircabraja7529
    @zelimircabraja7529 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The most charismatic, the greatest and the most beautiful of all conductors EVER.

  • @timotheuspeter734
    @timotheuspeter734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    00:00:00 Johannes Brahms - Schicksalslied op. 54
    00:01:16 (and other rehearsal scenes) Carl Maria v. Weber - Der Freischütz J.277 (Overture)
    00:05:31 Giaccino Rossini - Guillaume Tell (Overture)
    00:08:49 Edvard Grieg - Peer Gynt Suite No.2 op. 55 ("Solveig's Song")
    00:10:55 Jean Sibelius - Pelléas et Mélisande op. 46 (Act 1 Prelude "At the Gate")
    00:21:17 Giuseppe Verdi - I Masnadieri (Overture)
    00:25:16 Richard Strauss - Rosenkavalier (different scenes)
    00:31:44 Ludwig v. Beethoven - Symphony no. 9 (Ode to joy, orchestral from 4th mvt.)
    00:32:40 Giaccino Rossini - Guillaume Tell (Overture)
    00:34:56 Richard Wagner - Tristan & Isolde (Prelude)
    00:36:36 Richard Wagner - Tristan & Isolde (Act 3 "Mild und leise")
    00:41:11 Guiseppe Verdi - Otello (Act 1 "Una vela! Una vela!")
    00:43:38 (and other rehearsal scenes ) Johann Strauß II - Die Fledermaus (Overture)
    00:44:39 Ludwig v. Beethoven - Symphony no. 9 (3rd mvt.)
    00:49:47 Johann Strauß II - Annen-Polka op. 117
    00:51:58 Johann Strauß II - Wiener Blut Operetta (Overture)/Wiener Blut Waltz op. 354
    00:58:03 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Symphony No. 29 K.201 (2nd mvt.)
    01:00:44 Ludwig v. Beethoven - Corolian Overture op. 62
    01:04:18 Ludwig v. Beethoven - Symphony No. 7 op. 92 (2nd mvt./Allegretto)
    01:07:14 Jean Sibelius - Symphony no. 6 op. 104 (1st mvt.)
    01:08:35 Richard Strauss - 2 Gesänge op. 34 (1. "Der Abend")

  • @henryrol9841
    @henryrol9841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    God bless him forever and ever. The genius of music.

  • @tommeggle9966
    @tommeggle9966 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Unglaublich bewegend

  • @Artariastein
    @Artariastein 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wie schön, dass er da war und wir ihn erleben durften...!

  • @roberkonstig
    @roberkonstig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    What a marvelous, deeply moving documentary film on this fascinating human being!

  • @frogmouth
    @frogmouth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Fascinating. Great to hear the insights of those who clearly loved him dearly but not blindly.

  • @constantijnblondel7672
    @constantijnblondel7672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The great, great, great Carlos

  • @christinaargyrokou7383
    @christinaargyrokou7383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So charismatic! He created a special rapport with the orchestra in a unique way

  • @meisterw1
    @meisterw1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Als 10 jähriges Kind bekam ich eine Kassette mit Carlos Kleiber und Schuberts Unvollendeter geschenkt. Ich stand im Kinderzimmer und hörte, hörte, hörte und seh mich noch heute dabei dirigieren. Man konnte seine Interpretationen förmlich mit dem ganzen Körper mitgehen. In der Schule lernten wir die Oper anhand seines Freischütz kennen. Ich könnte meinem damaligen Musiklehrer noch heute die Füsse dafür küssen. CK hat das Innerste der Musik ganz gross raus und erfahrbar gemacht. Die Oper brauchte man später gar nicht mehr sehen. Ihn und die Oper hören reichte schon, um das richtige Gefühl und Bild im Kopf zu erhalten.

  • @josecardosodemenezes1482
    @josecardosodemenezes1482 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    An outstanding account of Maestro Carlos Kleiber impact on Classical Music.

  • @michaelpaulsmith4619
    @michaelpaulsmith4619 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It is so good to see that Eric Schulz's film has now gained the recognition it so richly deserves. There's film a-plenty of this nost elusive and 'hidden' of conductors. Kleiber was an amazing musician and communicator but seemed to find it impossible to manage his own extraordinary talents. What a wonderful film Mr Schilz has made here. Thank you so much for making it available here.

  • @The6zero4
    @The6zero4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A beautiful tribute to a great man. I can remember to this day when I first heard his reading of the Beethoven 5. Bob Kerr on Off the Record on CBC played it and spoke glowingly of the genius of this conductor who was already infamously unwilling to record. I still listen to that recording and the 7 and anything else i can find that speaks of his genius but more importantly of die ungezugelte Leidenshaft, die er fur die Welt entflesselt hat.

    • @BIGBAROK
      @BIGBAROK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So happy to hear of someone who revered Bob Kerr's shows on CBC Radio

  • @pega17pl
    @pega17pl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Finally, this important documentary about Carlos Kleiber is also available with English subtitles. Many many thanks.

  • @krystianbelliere
    @krystianbelliere ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just a fantastic artist, an inspiration to us all. Thank you for a most moving documentary.

  • @HerrMichaelKohlhaas
    @HerrMichaelKohlhaas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Der Film ist ausgezeichnet. Vielen Dank fürs hochladen.

  • @MichaelKleitman
    @MichaelKleitman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing forever ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @marinamanlapaz2546
    @marinamanlapaz2546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful person

  • @mariarosanovello7803
    @mariarosanovello7803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ein wunderbares Programm... Danke vielmals...

  • @NocaPlus
    @NocaPlus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Extraordinário! Obrigada por compartilhar esse documentário.

  • @jakovskok1465
    @jakovskok1465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ein hervorragender Doku, danke vielmals.

  • @nakkirchenchorundkinderchor
    @nakkirchenchorundkinderchor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DEAR MAESTRO! THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!

  • @eduardof.e.rosemary2190
    @eduardof.e.rosemary2190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a beauty!!!!! I am deeply moved.

  • @danielmasonmusic2353
    @danielmasonmusic2353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful documentary.

  • @nadyamelnikov8970
    @nadyamelnikov8970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    amazing video! thanks for sharing!

  • @Tararu3500
    @Tararu3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The genius that is Kleiber.

  • @likie
    @likie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Große Dirigenter und Künstler!

  • @leonhalegua4252
    @leonhalegua4252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelente análisis de los gestos de este histórico Maestro

  • @markiusz
    @markiusz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Magnífico documento para honrar a un ser prodigioso, pleno y de infinita calidad musical y humana.

  • @sahersourouri8419
    @sahersourouri8419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A lot of people are asking about the music that starts around 09:10. It's "Solveig's song" rom the Peer Gynt Suite by Edvard Grieg.

  • @madaboutvoice
    @madaboutvoice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Many thanks to the Euro Arts channel for posting this film. I am a bit saddened that the credits at the end do not include a complete list of all of the snippets of music used in the background so one could try to look for them. All feature films have such a list at the end, even with the performers clearly identified.

  • @kiarkf
    @kiarkf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sólo los genios son catalogados como excentricos, o introvertidos
    Grande Kleiber!

  • @ralfstrate2870
    @ralfstrate2870 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Erstaunlicher Film. Aber nicht nur Carlos Kleiber, sondern auch Klaus König, Michael Gielen und Brigitte Fassbender sind cool.

    • @Pukanszky
      @Pukanszky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ja! Auch sie sind phantastisch!

    • @ferencgabor1363
      @ferencgabor1363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ralf Strate einmalig und unvergesslich ! Wer weiß was ist das für ein Buch der Kleiber an B. Fassbender gegeben hat?

  • @SilviaAMaestri
    @SilviaAMaestri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A genius #forever #Carloskleiber 🎶💙💕

  • @christianschuster4184
    @christianschuster4184 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wie berührend dieses Porträt - danke so sehr von Herzen an alle Macher und Uploader. Und: An Carlos Kleiber und seine Musiker. Kann man sich bei einem Verstorbenen bedanken? Liest er mit ...?!

  • @peterszigeti7476
    @peterszigeti7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Schön.

  • @viviensha3240
    @viviensha3240 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    最喜欢的指挥!永远的贝5贝7!

  • @leoploner8929
    @leoploner8929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sehr schöne Worte von Frau Kammersängerin Brigitte Fassbaender... auch Otto Schenk weiß passende Worte zu finden...

  • @301250
    @301250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love his Brahms 4, Beethoven 5, his Strauss Waltzes (both Richard & Johann). Pity, he never did any Mahler, especially the Resurrection and the Eight!

    • @neil7137
      @neil7137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But he did Das Lied von Der Erde. The audio quality is not good though.

    • @301250
      @301250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neil Amadeus Yudhistira, you are right, I overlooked that, perhaps because it was a solitary work of Mahler that Kleiber ever did, I never associated him with the music of Mahler as I would with Bernstein, Abbado, Haitink et al.

    • @MrTann2010
      @MrTann2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@301250 Kleiber didn't like Mahler though. He once said Mahler was surrounded by negative demonic ghosts, whereas the ghosts in Der Freischutz were healthy and positive. Saying that, he knew all 9 of Mahler's symphonies very well (and the 10th) and his favorite one was the 8th.

    • @301250
      @301250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrTann2010, it reminds me of certain conductors like Bruno Walter, who didn’t conduct a few Mahler symphonies because he found them “disturbing”. If I am not mistaken, George Solti once said that the Seventh was the work of a madman.

    • @MrTann2010
      @MrTann2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@301250 I think you really need to live a very disturbed life and drive yourself to insanity due to your perfectionism like Mahler did in order to write and understand the symphonies that he did. The depression, hopelessness and suicidal feelings are expressed so vividly by Mahler in his symphonies, and they become more vivid as the symphonies go by. The Resurrection symphony was the first sign of things to come from him.
      Tennstedt once said that with the exception of the first symphony, you really need to live your life in order to understand the rest of his symphonies.

  • @user-xb4pu5kc5n
    @user-xb4pu5kc5n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    01:15 13:12 13:49 20:28 43:38 46:52 54:17 54:47 01:00:44
    45:44 with Leonard Bernstein
    09:38 01:10:12 with elder sister(Veronica)
    58:03 So Beautiful Sound ! 🎶
    Mozart Symphony No29 (2nd mov-t)
    Romance 🥲👌

  • @user-em6gu1sg5o
    @user-em6gu1sg5o ปีที่แล้ว

    Незнание языка не даёт возможность посмотреть и послушать мнение гостей передачи рассказ о любимом дирижёре Карлосе Клайбере.
    Очеь жаль.💥

  • @chaujun6604
    @chaujun6604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    讓音樂由音樂性到藝術性進而昇華到靈性的使人尊敬的偉大指揮

    • @yuegu2899
      @yuegu2899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      说得太好!!

  • @hartonowignyosumarto950
    @hartonowignyosumarto950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sangat menginspirasi.

  • @franzitaduz
    @franzitaduz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder what might have been if he did an opera with Maria Callas... Two perfectionists of matchless talent, hmmmmm.

    • @MihaSinkovec1981
      @MihaSinkovec1981 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Putting it on stage, rehearsals and organisation would probably be hell. And then, when finally on stage, it would probably be heaven.

  • @cosminfaur7318
    @cosminfaur7318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kleiber womanised the austrian waltzez with his Musical humankind.

  • @elianalima4759
    @elianalima4759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙇❤🌹👏

  • @nadyamelnikov8970
    @nadyamelnikov8970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    extremely important things - from ...aprox 22 min to aprox 25 min. And then - 39:11- 39:25!

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Putting labels of "best of all time" on conductors is a bit odd. Maybe he was the best in the recording era, who knows for all intents and purposes Mahler was an even greater conductor. There is no way we will know.
    The other problem with Kleiber is his repertoire. It was too small to really judge him as a complete conductor. But what he chose to conduct, he conducted to perfection.

    • @loralayons1120
      @loralayons1120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carlos was a genius and perfectionist - hence the small amount of his performances and recordings. And, for example, Gergiev, performing 2 times a day (often without rehearsals), despite the huge repertoire, is an ordinary apprentice, to whom paid critics and intendants sing praises

  • @LambentOrt
    @LambentOrt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @frogmouth
    @frogmouth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maestros don't sing any more! Maybe true at the time of making this film but now I can think of three at least who do : Nathalie Stutzmann who does it to save words conveying colour rhythm dynamics etc. Also Mirga Grazinyte Tyle who has a background in choral plus started conducting opera . William Christie also.

  • @t0mcc
    @t0mcc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anybody know what piece the orchesera is playing around 4.00-5
    00

  • @gertvanderbiesen1920
    @gertvanderbiesen1920 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What's the music of the opening sequence?

  • @ferencgabor1363
    @ferencgabor1363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weiß es jemanden was war das für ein Buch, das der Kleiber an B. Fassbender gegeben hat?

    • @VoicePassion
      @VoicePassion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zhuangzi war der Name des Authors des Buches, worüber seine Schwester geredet hat. Dann sprang es direkt zu Frau Fassbaender. Vielleicht hilft das in einer Google Suche!

  • @maxkettner7799
    @maxkettner7799 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know the music at the very end? Rachmaninov?

    • @markokassenaar4387
      @markokassenaar4387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      'Der Abend', by Richard Strauss, for 4 x 4-part choir a capella.

  • @kinwahvincentcheng5967
    @kinwahvincentcheng5967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No English subtitle

  • @michaelremish3123
    @michaelremish3123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone know the piece being played at 9:38?

    • @sahersourouri8419
      @sahersourouri8419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's "Solveig's song" rom the Peer Gynt Suite by Edvard Grieg

  • @jasperdegroot6405
    @jasperdegroot6405 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the music played between 8:50-10:20?

  • @berlinzerberus
    @berlinzerberus ปีที่แล้ว

    EINDRUCKSVOLL RIP

  • @yea2080
    @yea2080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone please knows the music from 9:50?

    • @sahersourouri8419
      @sahersourouri8419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's "Solveig's song" from the Peer Gynt suite by Edvard Grieg

  • @andrewashdown3541
    @andrewashdown3541 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me of that other genius - Brian Wilson

    • @Piflaser
      @Piflaser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who is that?

    • @andrewashdown3541
      @andrewashdown3541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Piflaser Brother of the famous Roger Wilson

    • @Piflaser
      @Piflaser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewashdown3541 An actor?

    • @andrewashdown3541
      @andrewashdown3541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Piflaser No a quote from a Python sketch

  • @lukiengelberger4645
    @lukiengelberger4645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the music at 1:35?

    • @michisbvb
      @michisbvb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ouverture „Der Freischütz“ Carl Maria von Weber

  • @jaemin8477
    @jaemin8477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What piece is it from 0:00 to 3:18 ?

    • @fiogray
      @fiogray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brahms: Schicksalslied, Op. 54

  • @ctr2090
    @ctr2090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kleiber und Felsenstein.
    Mehr ist über Oper n i c h t zu sagen.

  • @tabeaburchartz8406
    @tabeaburchartz8406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welches Stück ist das ab 11:19?

    • @timotheuspeter734
      @timotheuspeter734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sibelius, Pelleas et Melisande, Akt 1, Szene 1, Prelude ("Am Burgtor").

  • @Schleiermacher1000
    @Schleiermacher1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Er beschwor die "mathematischen Geister".

  • @debashismitro3255
    @debashismitro3255 ปีที่แล้ว

    There were two Kleiber & Celibidache.
    The others don't matter.

    • @Piflaser
      @Piflaser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too hard.

  • @mckavitt13
    @mckavitt13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Suggested German for “womaniser”: Fraueniseur!

  • @Piflaser
    @Piflaser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    23:20 Zitat Jiddu Krishnamurti

  • @roberts932
    @roberts932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    23:20 Krishnamurti

    • @wewewewewewewewewe
      @wewewewewewewewewe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you very much . do you know which book?

  • @ffrrrfdrrr7679
    @ffrrrfdrrr7679 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:00:00

    • @emjdeckwitz6949
      @emjdeckwitz6949 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      beethoven's 7th/

    • @madaboutvoice
      @madaboutvoice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emjdeckwitz6949 !!!

    • @madaboutvoice
      @madaboutvoice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Domenico, the link you created does not exist because it is the 2-hour mark and the film is only 1 hour and 12 minutes long!

  • @yea2080
    @yea2080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    49:47 :)

  • @user-bn7bv2zv2n
    @user-bn7bv2zv2n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Carlos is better than Karajan, K only looks good

    • @Piflaser
      @Piflaser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Herbert Kegel was a genius. He was called the better Herbert. Who cares?

  • @peterpluim7912
    @peterpluim7912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a very nice person, but a great conductor.

    • @emjdeckwitz6949
      @emjdeckwitz6949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      he was ill. a manic depressive and a medically diagnosable narcissist. the latter due to his very problematic upbringing. but he tried. and was a beautiful man and he suffered greatly, as did the women he loved and left after a short while.

    • @tiggywinkle20
      @tiggywinkle20 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is not good to speak ill of the dead. We don’t really know what Carlos K was
      like and he may have been poorly. I agree with Emj Deckwitz that he probably
      suffered and perhaps those close to him. Please let him alone, rest in peace
      and enjoy the wonderful music he gave us.

  • @sarahjones-jf4pr
    @sarahjones-jf4pr ปีที่แล้ว

    So Maestro Kleiber was a copycat and used all his conductor fathers scores ,deep seated problems of inferiority compared to his father, it all rather sad and a real eye opener to this tormented Maestro.If only he had realised that his conducting was far more expressive and emotional than his arrogant austere father....