I’ve decided to just stick with my 5600x. I’ve got it base clocked at 4.7 Ghz. Max PBO boost 4850. Curve optimizer -30 all cores. Max boost positive 200 hz. Using a 6700XT with SAM & XMP enabled. I’m typically gaming in 1440P High/Ultra settings. I don’t need insane frames, I just want a smooth 60FPS experience and it delivers. I also do PS3 emulation & 5800x3d doesn’t really add more benefit in that department from what I’ve read. For the money, 5600x is gold.
I've got the 14900k on direct die water cooling overclocked to 6.2ghz all p cores and 4.7 on the ecores. No hyperthreading ofc. I got that paired with a rtx 4090 also watercooled and overclocked to 3.1ghz. My ram is also water cooled, running 8200mhz cl36 with tuned timings. It is truly gold.
I have the non X version of 5600, got it below $80 2 years ago with a free game running @ 4.4Ghz. I'm thinking of upgrading to 5800x3D since I'm planning to skip AM5 completely, and 5700x3D is a bad chip for a side upgrade tbh (runs the same as 5600x)
I will buy rx7900xt soon and will use it at 1440p with Ryzen 5 5600x. As far as I can see, it does bottleneck of course, but since my monitor is 144hz, it doesn't seem to be a big problem. For example while 130-140 fps is enough for me in cyberpunk, if I switch to 190fps with new cpu, it probably won't change anything for me, at least it's hard to tell visually. Instead of upgrading the AM4 system, it may be more logical to use 5600x for a while and then switch to a new processor with AM5 that does not exist yet but will be released maybe next year or later. Tnx for the video. My english not very good so I used translate little bit. Please excuse me if the text is strange. :)
Good question! I'm guessing it's because the GPU will only create a new frame once given instruction from the CPU, so if the CPU is able to keep up better, the GPU can stretch its legs more which uses more power but results in higher frame rates.
@@gregs6403 What he said is correct. To simplify it, a 5600x isn't powerful enough for a 4090 to be fully utilized. A 5800x3d still isn't, but it's better than a 5600x. So it can be utilized more therefore more power is required.
For the 5600X it will, but for the 5800X3D, I would go for a better motherboard with better VRM, but it is still possible to use the 5800X3D on that motherboard.
Hi I’m thinking of upgradeing from r5 5600x to r7 5800x3d and i have 3070 i mainly play on 1080p but i wanna upgrade bc i get a lot 1% and 0.1% drops on fortnite.and also i can get it for 325$.And the main question is should i just save a bit more to upgrade my am4 motherboard to am5 and upgrade to r7 7800x3d and get 32gb ddr5 ram.
@@AbbasDalal1000 he prob have a 3000 high end ore 5000 only good i se with my 5600 and the latest board of am4 is ddr easy 4000mhz cl 15 cl16 am5 am not gonna look at for a long time no need
still on am4 in 1080p ofc you se difrence on 1440p and up i se lower difrence the higher i go the gpu is taking over and don´t bother me sitting on a 5600 on my fps rig still loving 1080p csgo 2 400 fps match my screen 360hz even cp and ac valhalla new world fc cp over 100fps min fps msot of the time you go 200 fps, am on 7800xt i love how to undervolt it to 180w outpeforming most 4070 in pwer consumtion close to 4070s only ti+s is beating it with a small marging if you only play 1080p i would upgrade from 5600 but the higher res the margin is geting smaller even on syntetic testing it´s low bottlneck from cpu vs 4070 7800xt with 5600x
If you're gonna test these processors do it with decent gpu not with top ones, 3070 or 4060ti is ok The ones who buy 4090 also buy 14900k or 7950x3d, they're not gonna spend on 5600x or 5800x3d
5800x3d is not a cheap processor. It costs 300 euros on average. It is the platform and the ddr4 that they are previous gen and cheap in general. I would say that 5800x3d is a reasonable processor to think of pairing with a 4090 if you dont want to upgrade to 7800x3d or 14900k.
@@velk6081 For a cpu it is not. 7800x3d costs about 350 and it performs better on games than 14900k which costs 650. But even 650 is cheap compared to the cost of a 4090 right? So your logic rly does not logic cause you cant directly compare the price of a cpu to gpu
@@RTX4080SUPERGAMING am4 build is cheaper that's why, fits with 3070 3080 4060ti 4070 builds. And at most of cases you just need to replace CPU cause it's a popular platform, against am5 where you have to buy every component of your sistem cause it's newest gen
@@velk6081 Yea and it makes sense but the magical with the am4 platform is the 5800x3d which in my opinion is a legendary cpu that can be paired even with a 4090 even tho it will not make much sense
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I’ve decided to just stick with my 5600x. I’ve got it base clocked at 4.7 Ghz. Max PBO boost 4850. Curve optimizer -30 all cores. Max boost positive 200 hz. Using a 6700XT with SAM & XMP enabled. I’m typically gaming in 1440P High/Ultra settings. I don’t need insane frames, I just want a smooth 60FPS experience and it delivers. I also do PS3 emulation & 5800x3d doesn’t really add more benefit in that department from what I’ve read. For the money, 5600x is gold.
I've got the 14900k on direct die water cooling overclocked to 6.2ghz all p cores and 4.7 on the ecores. No hyperthreading ofc. I got that paired with a rtx 4090 also watercooled and overclocked to 3.1ghz. My ram is also water cooled, running 8200mhz cl36 with tuned timings. It is truly gold.
@@expert8665 That's that put them kids to bed.
I have the non X version of 5600, got it below $80 2 years ago with a free game running @ 4.4Ghz. I'm thinking of upgrading to 5800x3D since I'm planning to skip AM5 completely, and 5700x3D is a bad chip for a side upgrade tbh (runs the same as 5600x)
I will buy rx7900xt soon and will use it at 1440p with Ryzen 5 5600x. As far as I can see, it does bottleneck of course, but since my monitor is 144hz, it doesn't seem to be a big problem.
For example while 130-140 fps is enough for me in cyberpunk, if I switch to 190fps with new cpu, it probably won't change anything for me, at least it's hard to tell visually.
Instead of upgrading the AM4 system, it may be more logical to use 5600x for a while and then switch to a new processor with AM5 that does not exist yet but will be released maybe next year or later.
Tnx for the video. My english not very good so I used translate little bit. Please excuse me if the text is strange. :)
Muchas gracias por el video que necesitaba, mucho conocimiento.
if the only dif in the comparison is the cpu why does the 5800x3d show its using more GPU power ????????
except in the 4k cyberpunk comp. gpu using the same power gets the same fps ?
Good question!
I'm guessing it's because the GPU will only create a new frame once given instruction from the CPU, so if the CPU is able to keep up better, the GPU can stretch its legs more which uses more power but results in higher frame rates.
@@gregs6403 What he said is correct. To simplify it, a 5600x isn't powerful enough for a 4090 to be fully utilized. A 5800x3d still isn't, but it's better than a 5600x. So it can be utilized more therefore more power is required.
would these work with msi a520m-a pro?
For the 5600X it will, but for the 5800X3D, I would go for a better motherboard with better VRM, but it is still possible to use the 5800X3D on that motherboard.
is is real? Omg 5600x still insane for 4k :)
Yes, but you will get worse 1% and 0.1% lows in comparison to the R7 5800X3D.
Hi I’m thinking of upgradeing from r5 5600x to r7 5800x3d and i have 3070 i mainly play on 1080p but i wanna upgrade bc i get a lot 1% and 0.1% drops on fortnite.and also i can get it for 325$.And the main question is should i just save a bit more to upgrade my am4 motherboard to am5 and upgrade to r7 7800x3d and get 32gb ddr5 ram.
If you dont intend to stop playing anytime soon its worth to save for AM5 platform. And 7800X3D is a beast.
Personally get the 5800x3d and wait for AM6 . Just upgrade your GPU if you want more FPS later
5800X3D is a beast, and 5600X is a monster. 😅
lower reso = cpu bound
yer only 1080p it´s worth upgrade higher resultion no point if you have 4080- 3080 and down 7800xt and down
@@danborg1228 ?
I game at 4K and there's no sense in upgrading to a newer CPU anytime soon.
Which cpu?
@@AbbasDalal1000 he prob have a 3000 high end ore 5000 only good i se with my 5600 and the latest board of am4 is ddr easy 4000mhz cl 15 cl16 am5 am not gonna look at for a long time no need
still on am4 in 1080p ofc you se difrence on 1440p and up i se lower difrence the higher i go the gpu is taking over and don´t bother me sitting on a 5600 on my fps rig still loving 1080p csgo 2 400 fps match my screen 360hz even cp and ac valhalla new world fc cp over 100fps min fps msot of the time you go 200 fps, am on 7800xt i love how to undervolt it to 180w outpeforming most 4070 in pwer consumtion close to 4070s only ti+s is beating it with a small marging if you only play 1080p i would upgrade from 5600 but the higher res the margin is geting smaller even on syntetic testing it´s low bottlneck from cpu vs 4070 7800xt with 5600x
If you're gonna test these processors do it with decent gpu not with top ones, 3070 or 4060ti is ok
The ones who buy 4090 also buy 14900k or 7950x3d, they're not gonna spend on 5600x or 5800x3d
5800x3d is not a cheap processor. It costs 300 euros on average. It is the platform and the ddr4 that they are previous gen and cheap in general. I would say that 5800x3d is a reasonable processor to think of pairing with a 4090 if you dont want to upgrade to 7800x3d or 14900k.
@@RTX4080SUPERGAMING of course it costs 300 euros, that's cheap lmao
@@velk6081 For a cpu it is not. 7800x3d costs about 350 and it performs better on games than 14900k which costs 650. But even 650 is cheap compared to the cost of a 4090 right? So your logic rly does not logic cause you cant directly compare the price of a cpu to gpu
@@RTX4080SUPERGAMING am4 build is cheaper that's why, fits with 3070 3080 4060ti 4070 builds. And at most of cases you just need to replace CPU cause it's a popular platform, against am5 where you have to buy every component of your sistem cause it's newest gen
@@velk6081 Yea and it makes sense but the magical with the am4 platform is the 5800x3d which in my opinion is a legendary cpu that can be paired even with a 4090 even tho it will not make much sense