Radeon 780M is actually equivalent in performance to a GTX 1650 or RX 570 which is quite impressive tbh. I think the upcoming Radeon 890M will be equivalent to something like an RTX 3050 at most or realistically around a 1650 SUPER in performance.
I think mostly the ddr5 versions are close. When DDR6 and beyond are available as desktop ram is when we really won’t have a need for those low end cards anymore
@@rajatji OK, this might be difficult for you. Read what I said. Slowly. I at no point attacked you or said anything. I simply made the point that decent graphics doesn't do this game justice. If you get tight over that, get tight soyboy beta male.
@@Shahzad12357 no way. You think for a second that AMD is going to sell the fastest and most efficient Apu in the world for any less than a MacBook pro? You're out of your mind buddy. Just wait. No chance you'll get strix halo in anything less than a $2k laptop or perhaps $1700 mini PC. I know exactly what I am talking about guy.
Back in 2015 and all the way up to mining craze it was such a struggle to make a reasonably priced cheap pc that can run GTA5 at decent settings and framerates. Now a mini pc integrated graphics just does it flawlessly...
Did you forget about the 750 ti? That paired with something like an fx 6300 or OC pentium g3258 or 4th gen i3 would have been fine for reasonable settings and 60+ fps
Hey Kryzp, Ghost of Tsushima has camera stutter according to Digital Foundry, frame gen only exacerbates the problem (you can see the frametime is a solid line, so the actual game doesn't stutter, only the movement of the camera). So until devs fix it, frame gen will not be very usable at lower fps.
Im interested to see how much the integrated graphics will improve in a few years. Would be cool to have a second tiny gaming rig for single player games in the living room😊
Dude.... you managed to make me feel so old... I mean, when you said that cyberpunk came out in 2020... Damn, already 4 years... That said, i really really love these mini pc's with amd apu's, so much power in such a little box, and the efficency is incredible
amd apus is a blessing for the budget and broke dudes who want to game as well. their integrated graphics are truly amazing. I personally got a 5600g for 2 years and it got my job done real good. though i mostly played competitive games and some old games that i coudnt have played before. hopefully i buy a good gpu before gta vi. wish me luck yall. have fun
I want to see a apples to apples comparison between Beelink, GMKtec and Minisforum mini PCs with same Ryzen processors: Ryzen 7 8845HS, Ryzen 9 7945HX, Ryzen 7 7840HS, Ryzen 9 6950H, Ryzen 7 6850H
Where I live, I could get a Ser7 at $510 (converted) and Ser8 at $640 (converted). Is the 25% increase in price worth it for the newer ser8 or is the ser7 good enough for light gaming + emulation for the next 5 years or so?
I think the Radeon 780M is somewhere between the GTX 980M & 970M in performance. And that's highly impressive for an iGPU. But I imagine that there'll still be some games where you'll get better performance with a 970M being a dGPU.
Hey man, would you suggest AMD R9 5900 or Intel i9 119K for gaming (mainly) and Firefox/Excel usage? (Prebuilt PC with AMD being 50 bucks more expensive).
22:42 Trying to lower the texture quality & texture filtering to the lowest value maybe solve the problem .. In some games, when you select a high texture value, the game will start skipping framerates even if you have enough ram (This happens with intergrated gpus and maybe due to the combined ram and vram memory) It happens with me in Shadow of Mordor .... My Best TH-camr Keep Going
My experience with GEEKOM A7 & A8 I'll say you'll go with eGPU after using those out-of-the-box. It's the best spec mini-PC but I'm learning so much. e.g. Cable Type-C USB4 Gen3 to DP1.4; must have variable vRAM > 4GB & custom cooling. I built a fanless prototype with early testing very promising.
You mentioned that frame gen (in Ghost Of Tsushima) feels like it's skipping some frames, well this is because frame gen from AMD isn't that great and it actually duplicates frames very often which makes the game feels like it's skipping some frames. Even tho they're duplicate frames, they're still frames , and that's why Riva Tuner recognizes them and counts them as frames. There is a video on YT by Ancient Gameplays that talks about this, i recommend that you watch it. Much love El Kryzzpo!
The 780M has the same specs as the RX 6300/6400 dGPU.. but is built on a smaller node.. "Phoenix" versus "Navi 24". RandomGaminginHD got about the same FPS with the RX6300 in Cyberbug... but on lowest settings.
Ghosts of Sushi! I haven't heard that story since I was a child. Back in the Edo period, around 1825, Sushi became very popular. Everybody that owned a Sashimi Shop wanted to partake in the art of Sushi. One of them was small shop in Tokyo. Not far from Gokoku-ji Temple. The monks would frequent it. One day a bad case of food poisoning killed 38 people. 8 of them were monks. One of the monks had a mistress that was from a well known tsukimono-suji family. She placed a curse on the souls of the monks so that they would fight to the death, anyone that would try to make Sushi in that village ever again. To this day the curse has not been broke and people no longer open up Sushi shops in that area.
hello krizby can you test the peladn wi 4 its my mini pc because i was was thinking of buying gta 5 and i dont eant to soend money on a stuttery game it only 150 dollars on amazon it has 16gb ddr4 512gb ssd and a 2.9ghz cpu
It's insane how far these APUs have come. The fact that you can have 100+ fps in Apex, R6, CS2 without a dedicated GPU is truly incredible. Can't wait to see what APUs can do in the coming years!
My beloved brother please play the s.t.a.l.k.e.r 2 on a gtx 1650 and 7840u. Stalker 2 is coming this September. Please make a gameplay video. :( i want to play stalker 2 but I'm not sure whether it's going to run on my device or not. I'm fine with 30 fps even with fsr 3 framegen at 30 fps. I just want to play this game. (I'm a fan of stalker series since 2012) so please make a gameplay of 1650 stalker 2.
This is impressive and disappointing at the same time cuz I have been wondering for a long time on why amd is making these apus when they can make an rtx 3060 equivalent apu, just like the ps5 apu, which makes me even more excited for the strix halo apu that is rumoured to be super powerful.
It’s so bandwidth limited with ddr5 5600 ram… I’m waiting for lpddr6 to upgrade my 6800U Edit: watched a bit further and 21:07 proves my point. The bottleneck is memory bandwidth not cpu
I love how optimized Apex Legends is. When it came out it was a hot mess. It was actually more stuttery and harder to run than Fortnite. Now? It's rock solid and a better performer on lower specs than Fortnite.
Dota 2 all of a sudden became more cpu intensive, I have a Ryzen 5 1600 AF at 3.7GHz on a cpu liquid cooler and a RTX 3050 and only getting 117fps avg on 1080p competitive settings. In your RTX 3050 benchmarking video the RTX 3050 can max out the game at 150fps avg even in the most intensive fights. I mean I can even run cs 2 on 1080 comp settings(low settings) at 170 fps avg.
Damn man, technology has gotten crazy, a PC that's 5 inches wide can play Cyberpunk 2077 at a stable 40 FPS. How crazy is that?
Bro cyberpunk was released 4 years ago, it almost half of decade, its not super intensive game for modern hardware
@@ИзяШмульwtf are u on bro,his point is tech has come a long way lol
@@ИзяШмульcyberpunk is still one of the most demanding games at launch it was literally super broken
Some say the future awaits, but were already there
@@ИзяШмуль 3.5years, that makes it a third of a decade
the bird just chilling on the pc in the beginning
Radeon 780M is actually equivalent in performance to a GTX 1650 or RX 570 which is quite impressive tbh. I think the upcoming Radeon 890M will be equivalent to something like an RTX 3050 at most or realistically around a 1650 SUPER in performance.
Even tho its a 3050 still crazy were getting into rtx ish territory
If it hit the numbers of a 1660Ti, it would still be extremely impressive. FSR goes a long way with integrated graphics. Just mad stuff.
i have an rx 570 and it is slightly better, around 5-10% better
That's absolutely insane
I think mostly the ddr5 versions are close. When DDR6 and beyond are available as desktop ram is when we really won’t have a need for those low end cards anymore
These mini PCs are very interesting to watch, thanks for your vids bro. Much love from the Dominican Republic
Glad you like them! Thanks 🥰😃
gotta love the pigeon on the pc❤
33:12 A game with decent graphics is running smoothly and not having major frame spikes.
Krizzp: That's concerning.
"Decent graphics". Forza Horizon 5 is one of the most gorgeous games out there imo
@MarkLaughton No i was not mocking the game, it seems like you didn't get the joke
@@rajatji OK, this might be difficult for you. Read what I said. Slowly. I at no point attacked you or said anything. I simply made the point that decent graphics doesn't do this game justice. If you get tight over that, get tight soyboy beta male.
he said ''Its NOT to a value thats concerning''. Learn how to listen lil bro
@@rajatji Then why did you say decent graphics? Weren't the graphics part of the point of the joke? You arent very smart
watching since 30k sub relly liked the vdos
and right now 491k
advance congratulation for 500k
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Thank you so much 😃🤗
I follow kryzzp when it was almost 20k but never commented a video since 2021
@@zWORMzGaming deserve
Can't wait for Strix Halo APU in the future
40cu beast💀
$2000. Yeah. Itll be perfect to replace a $500 PC build.
@@christophermullins7163 you literally pulled that price tag out of your a$$
Strix halo = rtx4070
@@Shahzad12357 no way. You think for a second that AMD is going to sell the fastest and most efficient Apu in the world for any less than a MacBook pro? You're out of your mind buddy. Just wait. No chance you'll get strix halo in anything less than a $2k laptop or perhaps $1700 mini PC. I know exactly what I am talking about guy.
Back in 2015 and all the way up to mining craze it was such a struggle to make a reasonably priced cheap pc that can run GTA5 at decent settings and framerates. Now a mini pc integrated graphics just does it flawlessly...
Did you forget about the 750 ti? That paired with something like an fx 6300 or OC pentium g3258 or 4th gen i3 would have been fine for reasonable settings and 60+ fps
6:41 sent Bob back to hell😭🙏
Really in-depth but still entertaining video. Defo worth a sub
Great video this is quite insane that intergrated graphics is catching up with some GPU's like the 1050
1050 got actually big surpassed by some of these iGPUs since a while
@@salvo27 Wow that is quite insane
This IGPU is very close to an rx 570
I think the most impressive thing is that these lil things can run WoW solid 100+ fps at 1440p at medium settings
love the vid your one of my fav youtubers keep it up
Hey Kryzp, Ghost of Tsushima has camera stutter according to Digital Foundry, frame gen only exacerbates the problem (you can see the frametime is a solid line, so the actual game doesn't stutter, only the movement of the camera). So until devs fix it, frame gen will not be very usable at lower fps.
Turn on motion blur in ghost of Tushushima it will solve the frame skipping. It happens with Nvidia as well also (Rtx 4070)
Ich habe den Mini vor 3 Wochen als Austausch bekommen. Ich bin sehr zufrieden und nutze ihn produktiv!
Honestly wished you would have done a separate video using the system with Bazzite to show what the performance would be like.
Im interested to see how much the integrated graphics will improve in a few years. Would be cool to have a second tiny gaming rig for single player games in the living room😊
No! This is a mini beast considering the size.
First comment!! Love from India kryyzp!!❤
Thank you 🥰
Dude.... you managed to make me feel so old... I mean, when you said that cyberpunk came out in 2020... Damn, already 4 years... That said, i really really love these mini pc's with amd apu's, so much power in such a little box, and the efficency is incredible
I’d love to see a video Rx780m vs GTX780 / 80Ti comparison video 🙂↕🥰😇👍
i whould love to see you test the amd´s RX 7800 XT! Because it is a beast for 1440p and there isnt really good benchmarks of it.
Ok, in mine version there's no amd cbs option in bios, however bios version is same. Where's the secret ? Did they send you a "special" version?
Found out the problem. AMD CBS is hidden. Press Ctrl+F1 and it will appear
amd apus is a blessing for the budget and broke dudes who want to game as well. their integrated graphics are truly amazing. I personally got a 5600g for 2 years and it got my job done real good. though i mostly played competitive games and some old games that i coudnt have played before. hopefully i buy a good gpu before gta vi. wish me luck yall. have fun
11:14 your 1060 video suggests an easy 60 or 70% advantage over this igpu with this ram.
Yeah, it's a big difference!
Thanks . very good review, especially on many top playing game
Glad you enjoyed it!
Can you try testing the rx 6750xt Kryzzp? It now goes for under $300 and is certainly a worthy midrange card option.
I don't have it, but I have tested the 6700xt a lot, they're not far off :)
Will you be testing the 5700 xt with Helldivers 2 eventually?
Please make a video review of the minecraft build.
Rtx 4070 and i7 13700kf, it's a very powerful build and I want to
Hiii! 780M is strong 😂 nice one zwz
It certainly is for integrated graphics :)
Thanks!
I think it's equal to rx 6300 in performance @@zWORMzGaming
@@Shahzad12357but with dram and not slow bandwidth
Just passing by, to see what expect from this APU. Ah by the way, bom conteúdo parabens! 🇵🇹
I want to see a apples to apples comparison between Beelink, GMKtec and Minisforum mini PCs with same Ryzen processors: Ryzen 7 8845HS, Ryzen 9 7945HX, Ryzen 7 7840HS, Ryzen 9 6950H, Ryzen 7 6850H
yoo kryzzp would you care to do the rx460 2gb just for fun??
Kryzzp can you please test the Asus Rog strix g16 2024 gaming laptop with the Rtx 4060 please
poor bob dude never catches a break... unless its bones breaking
Where I live, I could get a Ser7 at $510 (converted) and Ser8 at $640 (converted). Is the 25% increase in price worth it for the newer ser8 or is the ser7 good enough for light gaming + emulation for the next 5 years or so?
I like how you add cpu z Score
I think the Radeon 780M is somewhere between the GTX 980M & 970M in performance. And that's highly impressive for an iGPU. But I imagine that there'll still be some games where you'll get better performance with a 970M being a dGPU.
Hey man, would you suggest AMD R9 5900 or Intel i9 119K for gaming (mainly) and Firefox/Excel usage? (Prebuilt PC with AMD being 50 bucks more expensive).
I'd go with the AMD. It'll consume less power, get pretty much the same performance in games and better for productivity because it has more cores
23:50 you accidentally put 30 FPS Lock on top right
Eid Mubarik Kryzzp!
22:42 Trying to lower the texture quality & texture filtering to the lowest value maybe solve the problem ..
In some games, when you select a high texture value, the game will start skipping framerates even if you have enough ram (This happens with intergrated gpus and maybe due to the combined ram and vram memory)
It happens with me in Shadow of Mordor ....
My Best TH-camr Keep Going
This APU trades blows with a 1060 3GB, for reference. And with that and the fact that you can allocate 16GB VRAM you can train LLMs on them as well 😃
would love to see a video on the quadro p620 as I want to know if it is better that the gtx 750 ti cuz there are barely any videos on the card
battlemage is going to surprise people, me thinks
my plan is to use egpu on this, is this worth it or should i just build a pc instead?
eGPU enclosures aren't worth it. Maybe via PCIe it is but I haven't tested that method.
It's always more cost efficient just building a desktop PC
My experience with GEEKOM A7 & A8 I'll say you'll go with eGPU after using those out-of-the-box. It's the best spec mini-PC but I'm learning so much. e.g. Cable Type-C USB4 Gen3 to DP1.4; must have variable vRAM > 4GB & custom cooling. I built a fanless prototype with early testing very promising.
Beelink gen8 vs geekom A8, who is better? I'm really confused which one to buy!
You mentioned that frame gen (in Ghost Of Tsushima) feels like it's skipping some frames, well this is because frame gen from AMD isn't that great and it actually duplicates frames very often which makes the game feels like it's skipping some frames. Even tho they're duplicate frames, they're still frames , and that's why Riva Tuner recognizes them and counts them as frames. There is a video on YT by Ancient Gameplays that talks about this, i recommend that you watch it. Much love El Kryzzpo!
Thanks for the explanation! It makes sense. I'll check it out :)
@@zWORMzGaming Thanks for benchmarking!
What hardware overlay are you using? I'd like to try it instead of riva tuner
It is MSI AB with RT
@@DanielCardei awesome will try it out
Bro can you tell me about jack more, I am new here so I don't know back story of jacks(cats)
The 780M has the same specs as the RX 6300/6400 dGPU.. but is built on a smaller node.. "Phoenix" versus "Navi 24". RandomGaminginHD got about the same FPS with the RX6300 in Cyberbug... but on lowest settings.
What a useless GPU then lol
@@zWORMzGaming The RX 6300 has a limited memory bus... which hurts it quite a bit. It's a laptop iGPU on a card. Sold oem only iirc.
@@BReal-10EC The 6300 is also hard limited to 2GB, the 780M gets 8GB or even 16 if you want that for some reason.
Ghosts of Sushi! I haven't heard that story since I was a child. Back in the Edo period, around 1825, Sushi became very popular. Everybody that owned a Sashimi Shop wanted to partake in the art of Sushi. One of them was small shop in Tokyo. Not far from Gokoku-ji Temple. The monks would frequent it. One day a bad case of food poisoning killed 38 people. 8 of them were monks. One of the monks had a mistress that was from a well known tsukimono-suji family. She placed a curse on the souls of the monks so that they would fight to the death, anyone that would try to make Sushi in that village ever again. To this day the curse has not been broke and people no longer open up Sushi shops in that area.
That bird is adorable
For maximum performance you need to test it with 64GB of ram because 32GB dimms are double ranked, they have 10% more bandwidth.
If these boxes could come in at sub $500, they would be the ultimate console alternative at these specs.
What did he have to cut out when looking at that profile pic at 13:14 lmao.
crispyyy ur voice changed alot over the years wow
Have you ever try gaming with STARLINK connection. Its trending on my place indonesia now. 😂
hello krizby can you test the peladn wi 4 its my mini pc because i was was thinking of buying gta 5 and i dont eant to soend money on a stuttery game it only 150 dollars on amazon it has 16gb ddr4 512gb ssd and a 2.9ghz cpu
Getting MacBook and this mini pc to have it for anticheat games. Lovely
0:58 Kryzzp casually puts a bird on his pc
Getting +100 fps in 1080p in Apex Legends was 🔥🔥🍻
It's insane how far these APUs have come. The fact that you can have 100+ fps in Apex, R6, CS2 without a dedicated GPU is truly incredible. Can't wait to see what APUs can do in the coming years!
Kryzzp will you try the Ryzen 7 7735HS and RX 7700S?
Idk, if any brand is willing to send it I will!
@@zWORMzGaming Thank you!
This is impressive piece of tech
I have FPS drops in Fortnite it drops under 30fps randomly what i do wrong?
how did u make that cute bird sit on the mini pc
the bird should get interviewed and paid properly! :D
This would be the perfect little Linux game box for a living room.
Can you check out the rx 7900xtx graphics card
My beloved brother please play the s.t.a.l.k.e.r 2 on a gtx 1650 and 7840u.
Stalker 2 is coming this September. Please make a gameplay video.
:( i want to play stalker 2 but I'm not sure whether it's going to run on my device or not.
I'm fine with 30 fps even with fsr 3 framegen at 30 fps. I just want to play this game. (I'm a fan of stalker series since 2012) so please make a gameplay of 1650 stalker 2.
what happened to the 1080p low at 30:28 lol
It wasn't on low, so I blurred it!
@@zWORMzGaming oh ok
Broo why did you not test warzone 3??
i have that 780M in my laptop will it perform same i actually don't use it
Would this apu perform gaming nicely on linux?
Can you try this apu in vr always wanted to see that
You didn't tested spiderman :(
Where is side by side benchmark and 8gb in 2024❤
Can you do HD 7990
Black Myth Wukong on 1080 ti and this little guy when it launches
Bra the bird shot caught me off guard
with Lossless Scaling and its frame generation, performance will be even more impressive.
No WarZone?, please try 8700g + 32gb and a beefy cooler
I think 780m is equivalent to Rx470/rx6400 and it really good for igpu. I think next gen igpu will be like gpu of Xbox series S
can you try rtx 3090 on gta v? plss
Can you test an rtx 3050 laptop?
3:12 careful
the i7 can beat in re4 remake though..
This seems to be finally acceptable performance to be in handheld pcs. Steamdick has been too slow for current gen games.
You should use the lowest amount of VRAM available in BIOS because VRAM can steal from RAM dynamically but RAM cannot do it.
This is impressive and disappointing at the same time cuz I have been wondering for a long time on why amd is making these apus when they can make an rtx 3060 equivalent apu, just like the ps5 apu, which makes me even more excited for the strix halo apu that is rumoured to be super powerful.
How the heck did you get the pigeon on the pc😂
It's a pet pigeon :)
@@zWORMzGaming thats so cute❤️😊
Are this igpu better than old Vega 8-7?
Yes, much better. Those perform like a GT 1030, this performs like a GTX 1650
Wait, this might change everything...did Bob become a .... Force Ghost?
It’s so bandwidth limited with ddr5 5600 ram… I’m waiting for lpddr6 to upgrade my 6800U
Edit: watched a bit further and 21:07 proves my point. The bottleneck is memory bandwidth not cpu
why dont you play a classic match in pubg in squads for testing
I love how optimized Apex Legends is. When it came out it was a hot mess. It was actually more stuttery and harder to run than Fortnite. Now? It's rock solid and a better performer on lower specs than Fortnite.
Dota 2 all of a sudden became more cpu intensive, I have a Ryzen 5 1600 AF at 3.7GHz on a cpu liquid cooler and a RTX 3050 and only getting 117fps avg on 1080p competitive settings. In your RTX 3050 benchmarking video the RTX 3050 can max out the game at 150fps avg even in the most intensive fights. I mean I can even run cs 2 on 1080 comp settings(low settings) at 170 fps avg.
Have you tried Vulkan API ?
That's a fat bird. You feeding it good it looks like.
No one starves in my house!
What’s the most powerful mini pc I can buy today?
Probably the Minisforum with r9 7945HX and radeon 7600M XT
I'm supposedly going to get a review unit, not sure when though